What’s the right way to bring spirituality into workplace conversations when everyone comes from different cultures and comfort levels? Is culture really the problem, or is it more about our ability to adapt and communicate in ways people can genuinely receive? And what about leaders who make tough decisions from a spiritual place, like keeping a 50-year-old who may never find another job while letting go of younger employees who can recover quickly–and even supporting them in finding new roles?

In this episode, Andrew Cohn speaks with William Miller, co-founder of Values Centered Innovation and long-time explorer of the intersection between spirituality, creativity, and corporate leadership. Miller traces his journey back to a pivotal moment in the 1980s when mystical literature unexpectedly illuminated his work in innovation. That spark, he explains, revealed spirituality, business, and creativity as “facets of a single jewel,” a realization that has guided his work for four decades. He describes how ancient wisdom traditions, including the Bhagavad Gita, informed research on what energizes innovation, revealing three universal motivators: intention, connection, and action. These insights helped Miller develop practical models, such as his “creative journey” process, that cultivate psychological safety, courage, and authentic human connection within organizations.

The conversation also explores cultural nuances in discussing spirituality at work, stories of leaders who ground tough decisions in compassion, and the shift from profit-first business models toward purpose-driven ones. Miller introduces his current project, Reclaiming the Soul of Leadership, a program that helps leaders explore their spiritual foundations, express them through values-based leadership, and foster communities rooted in wisdom and love.

Key Takeaways

Spirituality, innovation, and leadership are deeply interconnected.

Psychological safety grows when individuals feel seen and valued beyond their roles.
Cultural context shapes how spiritual conversations can be introduced.
Compassionate leadership fosters trust and can drive organizational transformation.
Business is shifting from shareholder value to a broader focus on stakeholder wellbeing.
Spiritual leadership comes from responding with calm rather than reacting from fear.
True leadership development begins with inner exploration and reconnecting with the soul.

In This Episode:

[01:26] Introduction to William Miller
[03:43] William Miller's journey
[04:55] The intersection of spirituality and business
[09:03] Implementing spirituality in corporate work
[18:56] Cultural perspectives on spiritual conversations
[19:07] Spiritual conversations being easier in some cultures compared to others
[20:15] Telling the story and the think, act, innovation process

[25:27] The control game and spiritual deficits
[26:00] The notion of unconditional love in Christian tradition
[27:13] Spirituality’s role in leadership behavior
[27:48] Research on spirituality among executives
[28:30] Case study: Lars Colon's turnaround at Oticon
[32:47] Purpose of business: from shareholder wealth to stakeholder wellbeing
[35:38] Making a clear distinction between spirituality and religion
[38:09] Reclaiming the soul of leadership
[43:55] The spiritual path in leadership

Resources and Links

Spirituality in Leadership Podcast

https://podcasts.apple.com/us/podcast/spirituality-in-leadership/id1713365406

William Miller

Website: https://consciousleadershipacademy.org/ / https://vci.global
The Guild website:https://clgleaders.com/
LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/williamcmillervci
Book: The Art of Spiritual Leadership in Business

Andrew Cohn

Website: https://www.spiritualityinleadership.com/
LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/andrewcohnusa/

Music:

Kodiak: https://open.spotify.com/artist/4rURKtnJr3jeHvZ0IVRQCe