Disembodied Busybodies

Summary

Spooked: “Disembodied Busybodies” – Episode Summary

Podcast Information

• Title: Spooked
• Host/Author: KQED and Snap Studios
• Episode: Disembodied Busybodies
• Release Date: May 30, 2025
• Description: Spooked features true-life supernatural stories, told firsthand by people who can barely believe it happened themselves. Be afraid. Created in the dark of night, by the creators of Snap Judgment in partnership with KQED & PRX. Hosted by Glynn Washington. Available for free on all podcast platforms.

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Introduction

In the episode titled “Disembodied Busybodies”, host Glynn Washington introduces listeners to the chilling tale of Catherine Deane, an English teacher who encounters unexplained supernatural activities in her newly renovated home. This story delves into themes of cohabitation with spirits, the challenges of establishing boundaries, and the emotional turmoil that accompanies paranormal experiences.

Story Overview

Catherine Deane moves into a renovated house, eager to personalize it and make it her own. Shortly after moving in, she begins to experience the presence of two spirits—Joyce Dodge and her husband, Jimmy Dodge. Initially, Catherine perceives Joyce as a friendly, guiding presence who helps her navigate the house. However, as renovations progress, the disturbances escalate, leading to confrontations and heightened tension between Catherine and the spirits.

Key Moments and Notable Quotes

1. Initial Encounter with Joyce Dodge

   • [05:34] Glenn Washington: "Spooky starts now. Now then, as I've mentioned, some folk, they have a relationship with the other side. They see what's beyond the veil, and they run toward it. I am not one of those people. But our storyteller, Catherine, she is spooked."
   • Catherine first senses Joyce Dodge’s presence as a warm, guiding spirit who assists her in exploring the house without any visible apparitions.

2. Discovering Joyce’s Identity

   • [07:17] Narrator: "As soon as she showed her mother Joyce's Medicare card, they looked her up to find out as much as they could about Joyce Dodge."
   • Catherine uncovers Joyce’s identity through a Medicare card, providing a tangible connection to the spirits inhabiting the house.

3. Escalation of Supernatural Activity

   • [09:04] (Catherine) "I was here fairly late. It wasn't quite ten o' clock yet, but it was getting close. I was working on something in the living room and I just felt something come up from the basement."
   • The disturbances intensify as Jimmy Dodge starts asserting his presence, leading to increased fear and uncertainty for Catherine.

4. Confrontation with Jimmy Dodge

   • [10:42] Narrator: "As soon as she showed her mother Joyce's Medicare card, they looked her up to find out as much as they could about Joyce Dodge."
   • [13:07] Catherine Deane: "I am walking up the driveway and I see the gas stove on the Back porch. The first thing that hits me in the face, before I can even register what's going on in the kitchen, is Joyce just being despondent."
   • [16:09] Catherine Deane: "I drew the walls, and I drew where the refrigerator had been. I drew where the original door into the dining room had been, where the basement stairs were, where the sink originally was, where the stove originally was."
   • Catherine attempts to communicate and set boundaries with Jimmy by explaining her renovations and alterations, hoping to ease the tensions.

5. Climactic Encounter

   • [23:28] Joyce Dodge: "If they were that active downstairs, what are they going to be doing upstairs? Jimmy came upstairs first, and he's looking around."
   • [24:17] Catherine Deane: "I could see no features, not completely solid. And once he popped the door open and it hit the doorstop... I throw the sheets off, I walk to the door, I move the rabbit, I throw the door open."
   • The climax occurs when Jimmy Dodge physically manifests at the master bedroom door, breaking Catherine’s established boundaries and leading to a final confrontation.

6. Resolution and Aftermath

   • [27:07] Catherine Deane: "I didn't sleep that night, but then 8 o' clock came the next day, and Joyce did not try to get me out of bed. He stayed an extra hour, still awake."
   • The disturbances cease, and Catherine gains a sense of ownership and peace within her home, though she reflects on the strained relationship with the spirits.

Themes and Insights

Boundaries and Respect: The episode underscores the importance of setting and respecting personal boundaries, even in the face of the supernatural. Catherine’s initial inability to establish clear limits leads to escalating conflicts with the spirits.

Emotional Impact of the Paranormal: Catherine’s journey illustrates the profound emotional toll that living with spirits can take, highlighting themes of fear, frustration, and ultimately, acceptance.

Coexistence with Spirits: The gradual adaptation and the eventual cease of disturbances suggest a tenuous coexistence, where understanding and communication can lead to harmony between the living and the dead.

Conclusion

“Disembodied Busybodies” presents a compelling narrative of personal struggle and supernatural encounters. Through Catherine Deane’s story, listeners are invited to explore the delicate balance between renovation and respecting the history embedded within a home. The episode effectively combines eerie storytelling with relatable emotional experiences, making it a standout installment in the Spooked series.

Notable Contributions

• Original Score: Doug Stewart
• Produced by: Chris Hamrick

Final Note from Host

• Glenn Washington: “Thank you, Kathryn, for sharing your story at the Spooked. Folks, I want you to know that Catherine, she is a Spooked listener. We love it when our listeners share their stories with us."

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Transcript

[Glenn Washington]

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[Glenn Washington]

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[Catherine Deane]

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[Glenn Washington]

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[Narrator]

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[Glenn Washington]

I've never been one to court citation. All that yelling Bloody Mary in the mirror, trying to tempt the candyman or whatever seemed like a bad idea to me from a very early age. But my brother just 12 months younger than I. 12 months. But he had a different relationship with the land of shadow where I thought the line between here and there, between us and them. My brother observed no such demarcation. He'd talk out loud to things I could not see. He threatened, cajoled, Laugh, laugh as if with old friends. Maybe they were in fact old friends. Old friends. He's with his old friends now. Another side of this veil. I hope they are still laughing. I hope, I hope and how I wish this wall of bricks I built between here and there, between us and them, between he and I. How I wish I could pass through it, even for a moment, just like he. My name is Glenn Washington. Everything is. Everything is everything, Brother. Spook starts now. Now then, as I've mentioned, some folk, they have a relationship with the other side. They see what's beyond the veil, and they run toward it. I am not one of those people. But our storyteller, Catherine, she is spooked.

[Joyce Dodge]

I walk inside, and I walk into this kitchen. There's coriander countertops that are cracked. There's this peeling linoleum. That's this cornflower blue and white checker pattern. There's this border of birdhouses around the room. I'm enveloped by this warm feeling. It was just this friendliness and calm.

[Narrator]

This feeling that Kathryn Deane is experiencing. It's not just ambiance or good decor. She says it has a personality.

[Joyce Dodge]

So I go walking through this house. This feeling is following me. And I can tell that she's an older woman and she's very friendly.

[Narrator]

Now, she can't see anyone. No apparitions, no flowing figures. But to her, it's like she's being taken on a guided tour.

[Joyce Dodge]

And so I'm walking through, and I'm kind of quietly chatting with her as we go.

[Catherine Deane]

And I would see shapes on the wall that would suggest picture frames. And I'd say, you hung something there. She would go, yes.

[Narrator]

Katherine doesn't actually hear someone say yes or no, but she feels it. It's kind of like somebody telling you, I'm so happy, but take the words out of it and leave the emotion. Catherine understands the emotion.

[Catherine Deane]

She picked this really cute border that you would normally put at the top of a room, and she put it underneath the chair rail in the dining room. And I said, that's a really cute floral pattern. I like that a lot. And she would say, thank you. Little things like that. It was questions and compliments, and that's how I moved through the space.

[Joyce Dodge]

When I moved back to the kitchen to go outside to get my parents, I opened a cabinet. I don't remember her telling me to open the cabinet, but I opened the cabinet, and I looked down and there was a Medicare card. And that's when I found out her name, Joyce Dodge. And so I went, okay, Joyce, thanks for showing me around. I'm going to go get my parents. We went through the rest of the house.

[Catherine Deane]

Joyce followed.

[Joyce Dodge]

And by the time we made it back downstairs, the realtor had showed up. And I am grinning from ear to ear and I'm just going, this is.

[Catherine Deane]

The house, this is it.

[Joyce Dodge]

Here we are, the search is done.

[Narrator]

So Catherine got her house and she started dreaming up all the changes and improvements she was going to make, and she was dying to share them with her new housemate.

[Joyce Dodge]

I'm very excited to talk with Joyce again. She was excited to bring me into her home. I was excited to involve her in the repairs to this home. Joyce is this soft spoken, sweet woman. I've never seen a picture of her, but I imagine her to be shorter just because she has the personality of someone short, if that makes sense. She's someone who gets in and out of a lot of places. And sometimes she does it very quickly and sometimes she creeps. She slowly comes around the corner and she will watch you to make sure that you're okay with her being there. When my mother and I were outside and we were talking about how we wanted to do the garden, she got really excited. You know, there's a lilac bush in the backyard. And I just feel Joyce be so happy that I'm going to keep this lilac bush alive. You know, little things like that.

[Narrator]

The garden, the kitchen. Catherine had it all scoped out, but she didn't really pay much attention to what was underneath in the basement.

[Joyce Dodge]

So when I walk into this basement and I'm looking around and I'm inspecting the stairwell in the back and the remnants of the Bilco doors in the shower, in this cannon cabinet, I feel something behind me and it's not Joyce. And I start to get concerned. And so I promptly hightail it out of the basement because I. I don't know what that is. I don't want to deal with it. And I'm starting to worry. I'm like, did I get myself into something more that I can bite off? You know, Joyce is in the rest of the house. This thing is in the basement. Maybe it's fine that it's just in the basement.

[Narrator]

Okay, so the basement's a little creepy, but the rest of the place was pretty cute. It still wasn't ready to move in, though. Catherine is an English teacher, so after the school day was over, she'd come over to the house at night and fix it up.

[Catherine Deane]

I was here fairly late. It wasn't quite ten o' clock yet, but it was getting close. I was working on something in the living room and I just felt something come up from the basement.

[Joyce Dodge]

And this thing comes and finds me and tells me it is 10 o' clock.

[Catherine Deane]

You need to leave.

[Joyce Dodge]

I can't see this man, but now I recognize him as a man.

[Catherine Deane]

And I was in a panic because I didn't know who that person was. But once he was standing in the dining room looking at me in the living room, and I could tell he was, like, leaning on the wall and his arms were crossed and he's just kind of looking at me.

[Joyce Dodge]

And now I understand who he.

[Narrator]

See. As soon as she showed her mother Joyce's Medicare card, they looked her up to find out as much as they could about Joyce Dodge.

[Catherine Deane]

We found when she had been born, when she passed away, when her husband had been born, and we found her husband's name, Jimmy Dodge. Where Joyce had been a little bit confused, but open to the fact if someone was coming, he was not pleased with it.

[Joyce Dodge]

The way that he is moving through this house, the way he is interacting with the spirit of Joyce, the way he's not overpowering her, but he's setting limitations. And I'm like, oh, you're Ginny. We will address this later, but I'm getting out now.

[Narrator]

She went back to her mom's house where she was staying, went up to her room and tried to figure out what to do with her roommate situation.

[Joyce Dodge]

So I'm laying in bed and I'm going, okay. How do I establish respect and trust? The trick with getting anyone to change is doing one thing at a time.

[Narrator]

She knew that the next time Jimmy started to throw his weight around, she was going to have to stand her ground and talk to him in a language he could understand.

[Joyce Dodge]

I didn't talk back, but I would tell him, no, I'm going to stay after 10 o' clock because I poured too much paint into this cup and I'm not going to put it back. I'm going to finish this. And I would say, give me a half an hour more, and then I would work and I would make sure that I was done within that half an hour, and then I would go. And that's how he understood that I meant what I was saying. After a while, he didn't mind that I was there, you know, after 10, so long as I was working and not diddling around, it was just, I had to get to that point first.

[Narrator]

Catherine would mix plaster, patch the walls, and it felt to her like Jimmy finally stopped micromanaging and Joyce was all in on the new renovations. But then one day she came by to check up on her kitchen contractor.

[Catherine Deane]

I am walking up the driveway and I see the gas stove on the Back porch. The first thing that hits me in the face, before I can even register what's going on in the kitchen, is Joyce just being despondent.

[Joyce Dodge]

Like, I walked in, and I feel my chest constrict. I feel my eyes start to prickle. I feel my hands shake. But I'm like, why? And then it.

[Catherine Deane]

Like, as soon as I asked the question why, I could feel her, and.

[Joyce Dodge]

I was like, I'm feeling this because she's feeling this. It feels like experiencing heartbreak secondhand.

[Catherine Deane]

And then I look around, and the kitchen has just been basically demolished. The cabinets are coming down, the countertop is being ripped up. The floor is being ripped up. Everything is in disarray. She is upset, and she is so confused.

[Joyce Dodge]

And it's this feeling of, I don't know what's going on. I don't know who this person is. Where did my oven go? What are you doing with the floor?

[Catherine Deane]

And as soon as I am done processing that, I feel Mr. Dodge maybe five inches from my face, going, why did you make my wife cry? I am standing in this kitchen where there is this crying woman, this very angry husband, and a contractor who turns around and smiles and goes, katie, what do you think? And I'm having to play it cool. Meanwhile, my. My mind is racing because I feel awful. I am trying to keep casual and polite conversation with a gentleman who does not understand the havoc he has wreaked in this relationship. And I feel badly because I did not warn them, and I didn't think to warn them. I assumed they understood because we had stood in that kitchen and talked about the changes and talked about the repairs and what would occur. Joyce, in her creeping, in her overhearing. I thought it made sense to her, and it didn't. After I disentangle myself from the conversation with the contractor, I make my way upstairs to the master bedroom, because the last thing I want this man to see is me trying to talk to ghosts. And what needed to happen between the Dodges and I was an open and candid conversation that was not going to happen in front of him. So once I found privacy and shut the door as best I could, I said I'm sorry out loud and then proceeded to just talk with them out loud in the master bedroom.

[Joyce Dodge]

And I start to explain to Jimmy because Joyce did not follow me upstairs. Joyce was still in the kitchen, upset. But I start to explain to Jimmy, this is what we're doing and why? And I start to draw it out in the dust in the floor upstairs.

[Catherine Deane]

I drew the walls, and I drew where the refrigerator had been. I drew where the original door into the dining room had been, where the basement stairs were, where the sink originally was, where the stove originally was. And I went, okay, this was your kitchen. And then piece by piece, wall by.

[Joyce Dodge]

Wall, I would erase what was there.

[Catherine Deane]

And then I would draw something else. I said, all we're doing is we're expanding the wall and moving it down. Let me show you where the refrigerator's gonna go. Let me show you where the stove is gonna go.

[Joyce Dodge]

And then I promised him, the next time we do something like this, I will tell you.

[Catherine Deane]

Joyce finally calmed down, thus Jimmy calmed down. But any headway that I made was. Was gone. And it was gonna be twice as hard just to get that inch back. I had to make a change in my interaction with them to prove that I meant that I was sorry, and that would never happen again. So from there on, anytime we made changes to the house, anytime we were planning anything down to paint color, I would take those samples and I would leave them upstairs on the windowsill.

[Joyce Dodge]

Here are the paints. This is what I'm thinking. Once we got a lot of the anxieties out of the way, they felt much more comfortable, because I wanted them to feel comfortable.

[Catherine Deane]

They were still living here.

[Narrator]

And once she started spending some weekends in the house, the three of them began to work it out. And they each carved out their own little routines. And every day started the same way.

[Catherine Deane]

At 8 o' clock, I would be woken in the most gentle way, as if someone was going, you need to wake up. There's a full day. Come on, get out of bed. And it was just very gentle, but it was still consistent somewhere in the realm of 8 o' clock to 8:05. And I would be in my kitchen having a cup of tea or coffee, and Joyce would go, you need to eat a real breakfast. They would putz about. Sometimes they would ask questions, you know, sometimes they would watch. And then 10 o' clock would come, and Mr. Dodge would come up from the basement and he'd look into where I was and he'd go, it's time for bed. It's literally like I was living with grandparents. Their behavior towards me was a little overbearing, but it was okay because they were treating me like I was their family. And I was also only there on weekends. So it wasn't like I had to deal with it all the time. It was just when I was there.

[Narrator]

Catherine finally got all her furniture in, left her mom's house, and moved in with her new family. And just like family, the more you get to know them, the more you get to know them.

[Joyce Dodge]

Things start to change. Because now it's every day Mrs. Dodge would judge my cooking, and she goes, I don't like what you're doing with that chicken. And I go, joyce, you're not eating it.

[Catherine Deane]

She also did not like how much spice I added to things.

[Joyce Dodge]

It was funny at first, and then.

[Catherine Deane]

It slowly grew to be frustrating because it was constant. Jimmy did not like certain things either, you know, certain ways I would do my laundry or I would fold it. He's like, that's not how Joyce did it. I'm like, well, I'm not Joyce, and this isn't your pants. I don't know why you're that upset. And then he'd say that I was sassing him and he'd get more frustrated. I'm not going to stop adding garlic to every dish I possibly can just because Joyce does not like garlic. I am not going to stop burning nice smelling candles because Jimmy says they stink. He's dead.

[Narrator]

One night, about 30 days after she moved in, Catherine is sitting on the couch in her new home with everything around her. Finally, just how she likes it.

[Catherine Deane]

I am grading papers, and then I just feel something in the house start to change. And it's like this ramping up of a rumble of activity. And I, rather than give it attention, decide to tactfully ignore it while keeping tabs because I have work that I need to get done. And I'm feeling them and hearing them moving between the basement and the mudroom, the kitchen and the dining room and back. It's weird. They're talking to one another, but I can't understand what they're saying. They're moving with purpose. There is no pause. They see something and they go directly to it. They're toying with things. I'm hearing little crystal pieces clinking in the kitchen. I finally get to a point where I get up and I walk into the kitchen because I need a drink. And every single cabinet in my kitchen is open. And there is a glass that seems to have just been rested on the counter because it's rattling to a still. And I feel the room freeze like I caught them in the middle of something they knew they shouldn't have been doing. And I go, okay.

[Joyce Dodge]

I just took a deep breath. I put the glass back, I closed all the cabinets and I said, I'm so glad that you like what I have done with the kitchen. I'm going to ask, though, please don't play with my glassware. My mother and I spent a long time trying to find that. And I don't know how well you can hold onto these glasses. Please be gentle with my things. And I could feel that they understood. And I walked back into the living room. And as I was walking by a standing lamp that is to the right.

[Catherine Deane]

Of the doorway, the bulb flickered.

[Joyce Dodge]

I knew that they were following me into the living room. And I was just like, you are standing very close. You are very overly excited. The level of intensity was something that I had not felt before. That's where they started to scare me. And I paused and I'm going to. You know what? I think I am gonna call it for the night. I'm gonna take my stuff, I'm gonna go upstairs, and I'm just gonna leave you guys down here.

[Catherine Deane]

I take my computer, I take my phone. I go upstairs. I'm in my blankets in bed. I turn on this interesting Chinese animated movie, but there is no way I can concentrate on it. I texted my boyfriend Travis, and. And I told him, something's up with the Dodges. I don't know what's going on. I could hear them shuffling around the living room. And I was upstairs in the master bedroom.

[Joyce Dodge]

And then I hear someone coming up the stairs. And it's not like a general house creak. I mean, it is footstep creaks coming up the stairs. I'm starting to freak out.

[Catherine Deane]

Since I had moved in, they had never come up.

[Joyce Dodge]

If they were that active downstairs, what are they going to be doing upstairs? Jimmy came upstairs first, and he's looking around. He's in the guest bedroom. He's checking out the master bathroom. You know, I'm hearing him play with certain things. At one point, the fan in the bathroom turned on and then shut off.

[Catherine Deane]

I text Travis this, and as soon as I hit the send button, the master bedroom door popped open. And it was the first time I could see the shadow of someone standing at the door. And I figured it was Jimmy. It felt like Jimmy. So something happened. And I could see him. I could not see them until that point. Seeing someone for the first time was equal parts terrifying and awe inspiring. Because it's going to be, oh, that's what you look like. That's why other people are scared of you. He's not much taller than me, broad shouldered.

[Joyce Dodge]

If there was hair, it was very short.

[Catherine Deane]

I could see no features, not completely solid. And once he popped the door open and it hit the doorstop, which is a cast iron rabbet, which my Whole brain goes, I am going to be hurt. I am not going to be okay. As soon as that thought flashed through my mind, that's when I got up. And regardless of how afraid I was, the rest of me went, nope, this is my house. You're gonna leave. It wasn't even the fact that I could see him. It was the fact they opened the door. You broke a very clear delineation. I don't go into the basement in the middle of the night to wake you up. I have respected your boundaries. Now you turn around and disrespect mine. You took a door that was closed and blocked and forced it open. It is a clear barrier of do not come in. That is a universal language. And he decided to ignore it as if it was still his house. That was the moment I was not okay. I throw the sheets off, I walk to the door, I move the rabbit, I throw the door open. And I just feel Jimmy get very embarrassed and very apologetic. I'm standing at the top of the stairs. Jimmy is now backing down the stairs. I can't see the shadow form anymore. I can just tell he's there. Joyce is at the bottom of the stairs. And I just go, I'm really glad.

[Joyce Dodge]

You like the house. I'm really glad you like everything I've.

[Catherine Deane]

Done with the house.

[Joyce Dodge]

But I'm gonna end it tonight.

[Catherine Deane]

You need to leave.

[Joyce Dodge]

I said, it is safe. It is secure. I love it just as much as you love it. Everyone is taking care of it. I promise you. You can spend the rest of the night here and check out everything, but then you have to leave by tomorrow.

[Catherine Deane]

And both of them were very awkward.

[Joyce Dodge]

I don't know if it was because they realized their behavior and that they scared me, or it was because I was standing at the top of the stairs in my underwear, but either way, they backed off and I marched myself.

[Catherine Deane]

Back into my room, put the door in the rabbit, door stopper back where.

[Joyce Dodge]

They were, crawled myself into bed and.

[Catherine Deane]

Texted Travis and went, well, you'll get a kick out of this.

[Narrator]

Katherine tried to play it off, but she was clearly shaken. She could still feel the couple downstairs rummaging around until three in the morning. And that's when the noises below finally stopped.

[Catherine Deane]

I didn't sleep that night, but then 8 o' clock came the next day, and Joyce did not try to get me out of bed. He stayed an extra hour, still awake. When I opened the door of the master bedroom, the house felt quiet and still. And when I walked down the stairs and through the living room, through the dining room into the kitchen. I could tell that I was the only person moving in the house. There was no one awake or around but the house and I. It's been like that ever since.

[Narrator]

Even though she had completely redone the house in her style and had been living there for months, Catherine did feel that for the first time, the home was truly her own. Although as much as the three roommates had gone through together, she does wish that things could have ended better.

[Catherine Deane]

I do feel bad about the tone that I used the last time I talked to the Dodges.

[Joyce Dodge]

I miss Jimmy's approval when I would.

[Catherine Deane]

Take up a challenge like I didn't know how to plaster before I bought this house. I learned on the fly and he appreciated that I took the time to do that.

[Joyce Dodge]

I miss the you need to take care of yourself vibe that Joyce would give me. But then there are times where I remind myself that they would do that. So I now do that for myself. You know, if I miss a meal, I go, oh, Joyce wouldn't be happy with me. And I make sure to eat a salad or something.

[Glenn Washington]

Thank you, Kathryn, for sharing your story at the Spoot. Folks, I want you to know that Catherine, she is a spooked listener. We love it when our listeners share their stories with us. And maybe you have a story to tell. Maybe you brushed up against something in the darkness and you tried to find out what it was. I hope you didn't, but if you did, we want to hear from you. Drop us a line@spooked snapjudgment.org the original score for that story was by Mr. Doug Stewart. It was produced by Chris Hamrick. Oh, it's that time, it's that time but this road, this road is never over but these rocks, they are slippery. This path, it is steep. These woods, they are dark hold someone's hand. We are strangers in this strange land and if you dig it, let somebody know. It's like lighting a candle in the eternal night. But if you like your storytelling under the rays of the sun, check out our sister podcast, Snap Judgment. It's cinema of sound, Movies of the mind, Storytelling the Bee this book was produced by by the team that never ever hears voices. Never ever, ever. Except of course for Mr. Mark Ristich for his Anna Sussman. Our chief spookster is Eliza Smith, Chris Hambrick, Annie Nguyen, Lauren Newsom, Leon Morimoto, Renzo Gorio, Teo Da Cott, Marissa Dodge, Aaliyah Yates, Zoe Ferrigno, Greta Weber, Jacob Winnick Son of Khan, Tiffany Deleza Ann Ford, Fernando Hernandez and Flo Wylie. Some people, they set out treats to appease the shadow world. Others leave gifts of coins or burn sweet smelling sage. Me, I'm not trying to attract anything to me. I'm trying to repel it back from whence it came. So my strong advice to you and to everyone else is to never ever, never ever, never ever turn out the lamps.