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Kevin Washington
Patty cake, patty cake baker's man when he saw what he saw Then the baker ran Then he did what he did Cause he had to fam Then he wept and he wept. When they found the man. You've crossed over to. Spooked. Stay tuned. So this is frog. Bright green, the size of your fist. Lives high in the canopy of the Amazon rainforest. 100ft high. Can't even see it high, but you can hear it. Right before the dawn. Thousands of them. Croaking, pulsing, throbbing. A chorus echoing through the darkness. The Kashinawa people, an indigenous tribe of the Brazilian Amazon. They've been listening to this song for as long as they have been a people. And they've come to understand about this creature. They know if you take a secretion off its skin, this milk white waxy stuff, and you put it on a burn, it will heal you. Not like fix a cut. I mean heal the insides of you. They call this medicine combo. But that's not what was called at the beginning. In the beginning it was called something else. I'm going to tell you the story, though it was told to me a long time ago. Generations ago. Kashinawa were in trouble. Some kind of sickness tore through the village. People were dying. And the medicine man, the paze, he's trying everything. Every root, every bark, every leaf. He knows nothing is working. People keep dying. So this old shaman, he makes a decision. He walks into the forest alone. Deeper than he's ever gone. And there in the dark, he drinks of the sacred vine. And he sits and he waits. And that night she comes. The grandmother spirit of the forest. She doesn't speak. Instead, she reaches up, way up into those trees and she brings down a frog. Bright green white spots on its belly. And she shows him how to scrape that secretion off its back. How to make little burns on the skin and put the medicine right there, directly into the wound. When the paje opens his eyes again, he can still hear the frog singing. He goes back and does exactly what the grandmother spirit showed him. And one by one, people get well. From that day forward, they call him Page Tampo. And when he finally passes away, this old man, full of years, surrounded by the grandchildren of people who should have passed away from that disease. They say his spirit did not leave. He went into the frogs, merged. The medicine was named in his honor. Kambo. And recently, in Rome, Italy, University laboratory, a sample of that frog secretion. It ends up in the desk of a scientist named Vittoria Ospalmer. The man who discovered serotonin nobel Prize nominee, one of the most important pharmacologists of the 20th century. And this man peers at combo under a microscope and calls it, and I quote, a fantastic chemical cocktail. Because it's inside that frog are peptides no one has ever seen before. A painkiller 40 times more powerful than morphine, a natural antibiotic material that fights inflammation, that regulates blood pressure. And now There are over 70 pharmaceutical patents based on that frog. Billion dollar companies trying to figure out how to synthesize what the Kashinawa already have. But how do they know? Don't have microscopes, centrifuges. How do they know you can't swallow it? How do they know to burn those holes first? How do they know the dosage? How do they know which frog? Out of thousands of species in that rainforest, how did they know? Trial and error. Possible. Statistically. So the scientists, they sit with the elders, the ethnobotanists, the anthropologists, researchers with notebooks and recorders and reasonable questions. They ask very politely, how did your people figure this out? The elders answer. They say, the grandmother's spirit told us the pencil stopped scribbling. The scientists, they smile politely. Then they ask the question again. Different words, looking for the real answer, the rational answer. The elders blink back at them a long moment, until one of them finally says, what part of the grandmother spirit do you not understand? Now, Now, for this spook story. I'm going to travel to Peru to meet Ladoy Ska. Now, Ladoyzuka. She wants to help the communities of her homeland by building libraries and schools. She's on a boat with some friends on her way to a very special place.
Ladoysca
The vastness of the lake is fascinating. The water is turquoise. There's a cool breeze. The sun is shining. There's a sense of peacefulness that I can't describe.
Local Community Members
Estamo yellando a Isla Mantani.
Ladoysca
We are arriving at Isla Amantani, the largest island in Lake Titicaca. It rises from the water like a mountain, and it's home to 10 different small communities. We get to the dock, and my first thought is, this feels like home. There are kids playing around, wearing their little fleece chiito hats. They're giving us shy smiles. The other locals are wearing colorful traditional costumes with women wearing yiggyas, beautiful shawls that cover their shoulders. I'm greeted by Alexa and Abel que.
Local Community Members
Son hijos de la famil.
Ladoysca
They are the kids of the Mamani Calcim, the family I'm staying with for the next few months. They help us carry our backpacks, our groceries and we start walking. As we turn to the right, I see a flock of sheep following us. They look a bit frightened by our presence.
Local Community Members
That's when tengunas sensation.
Ladoysca
I have this feeling of being watched. There's a tingling down my spine. I look around, but the people aren't paying any attention to us. I don't know where this feeling is coming from, but it's as if someone is watching and wondering.
Local Community Members
Para queas venido quin eres?
Ladoysca
What are you doing here? Who are you? I try to explain this feeling away, like maybe I'm just nervous about the project. I want to build a library on the island and provide literacy workshops. But in order to do that, I need to gain the trust of the community. I don't know if they actually want this. So I wonder, am I really welcome here?
Local Community Members
Mi un TRA vazu viendo por la callecita sempedradas la vistas spectacular.
Ladoysca
As we climb up a cobblestone path. The views are spectacular. Little red houses dot the landscape. There are green fields and farms everywhere. Lake Titicaca glistens to my right. The closer we get to the Mamani Calcines home, the more I can feel the altitude changing. We're now 4,000 meters above the sea level and it's getting hard to breathe. I know that coca leaves can help with altitude setting. So I reach into my bag and pull out a small stash and I start to chew. In this community, coca leaves aren't just a remedy, they are sacred. Farmers chew on them for energy, and people also use them to greet one another. On the island, the tradition is to take three coca leaves, each one representing a different realm. The world of the gods. Kay Pacha, the world of the living. Uhupacha, the world of the dead. Together, these three leaves are called akintu. Using both hands, you bring the coca leaves to your mouth, ask for a blessing, and then you give the leaves to the other person. They will receive the skin too, with their skirt or their hat. We finally arrive and meet Maman Selma at the door. She's wearing a chuko, a black cloak that covers her head. She's so happy to see us and welcomes us inside.
Kevin Washington
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Ladoysca
The sun sets and we gather for dinner. As we eat quinoa soup, I tell Abel about this feeling of being watched when I first arrived on the island. He just stares at me and says.
Local Community Members
Es gustadia Conor la noche amantani.
Ladoysca
Would you like to know amantani? At night, we all look at each.
Local Community Members
Other and say, la noche pero que pas? In la noche, in la isla.
Ladoysca
Why? What happens during the night? And he says, well, that feeling of being watched, it comes from spirits. You can't see these spirits. They wake up at night. I'm like, what do you mean, spirits? And a belle starts telling a story.
Local Community Members
Los ahuichos son los ancestros de los ancestros de los ancestros.
Ladoysca
The Ahuichos are the ancestors of our ancestors of our ancestors. They are very, very, very old. You may say that they were the first to inhabit Amantani. They used to live on this island, just like us. They had their own laws, their own religion. But at some point, they disobeyed their. At this point, Abel is very serious. So the Ahuichos were punished. The sun God Inti burned them alive, and their bones were the only remnants left behind. Those bones are now buried in a cave deep within the island where no one is allowed to go. The Ahuichos guard that land because not everyone is welcome there. There are people who are afraid of the Ahuichos because they say that if you ever bump into them, you can get sick. And d. Now Maman Selma is like any other mom. She goes, so you better not go out at night. The day is for the living and the night is for the spirits. The Ahuichos don't bother us during the day. Why would we bother them at night?
Local Community Members
Cuando SEO, cul te el sol es hora de rezara casa.
Ladoysca
When the sun goes down, it's time to go back home. I had heard these kinds of stories and legends in other native communities, but I must admit, this one is a bit scary. I mean, the whole family is dead serious when talking about the Ahuichos. But I tell myself, hold on. This is just their belief system.
Local Community Members
It's an historia.
Ladoysca
This is just a story. For the first few days, I'm in a bliss. I wake up to the birds singing and the whisper of the lake. But the work has been exhausting. Some days I have to walk for over an hour to reach Ocosuyo, the community where we're building the library. The children in Ocosuyo laugh when they see me. The adults approach me with curiosity. Some look at me with suspicion. This one particular day, I really needed some alone time. The week had been intense and the project was stalling. We didn't have enough money to fully fund the library. We had lunch, a fundraiser, but it wasn't successful. We were starting to doubt ourselves. Like, is this really gonna happen. So I grab my coca leaves, a book that I'm reading, some crackers, and I head out. It's around 11 in the morning. I'm walking through the island, taking my time. And I decide to go to El Agua de la Juventut. It's a natural water spring. The locals say that the water has healing powers. They drink it for longevity. To get to the spring, I walk through some of the sacred areas of the island along this cobblestone path that goes up and down this lush hill. There are so many red, yellow and pink cantu flowers all around me. Then finally I go down this one last hill and get to the spot. It's a little natural spring that is located near a cliff's edge. And this spring is surrounded by a meter high stone wall. The first thing I do is I introduce myself to the water the way that the family taught. Hi, I'm Ladoysca. Thank you for letting me drink from your waters. And I take out some coca leaves. Then I grab my bottle and I fill it with water. And I fill up another bottle from Aman Selma. Then I take off my shoes, sit right by the spring, feeling the dirt under my feet. I just close my eyes and enjoy the sun in silence. Time slips away and I notice it's getting dark. I lost track of time. I need to hurry. Mama is going to get worried. But what could go wrong? I pack my stuff and I start making my way up the hill back towards home. And that's when I hear murmuring. Someone nearby is mumbling. I turn and look down the hill. There's a short woman behind that stone wall surrounding the spring. She's about 4ft tall and probably in her 70s. She's wearing traditional clothes and she's covered in this grayish dirt. She's carrying a bucket and pot. Maybe she's been working on the chakra all day.
Local Community Members
No Puedo versus Rostro porkestain corbada.
Ladoysca
I can't see her face because she's hunched over. I'm wondering where did she come from? There's no path behind this stone wall. Then she starts trying to climb over the wall. Her arms shake as she tries to push herself up. I need to help her. So I head back down the hill and I walk to where she is. I extend my hand and.
Local Community Members
Mamita. Mamita. Pollo tequi.
Ladoysca
Mamita grab my hand but she ignores me. It's as if I'm not there. She's still hunched over and mumbling. So I remove some stones so that it's easier for her to climb over. I know I shouldn't be doing this, but she needs help.
Local Community Members
I say, mamita, a quiese el espacion de tu pueda pasar, mamita.
Ladoysca
I've opened a path through the wall and I offer her my hand once again but she doesn't grab it. It's like she doesn't want to be touched. But then she slowly starts climbing over the wall's opening.
Local Community Members
And now la mamita esta ferente ami.
Ladoysca
She's standing in front of me.
Local Community Members
Es muy pequi nita.
Ladoysca
She's really, really tiny. I offer her some coca leaves. I tell her, mamita, mamita, pick up your skirt. She turns and looks right at me. Her eyes are so black, dark and deep with a bit of hazel. Her gaze is so heavy, so piercing, it's like she's looking right through me. She starts whispering and with her right hand she picks up a kirby leaf and then a round one that is on the same stem. She pulls the two of them apart and she starts drawing with them in the air and I think, oh, she's reading my coca leaves. Her hands are not shaking anymore. She looks stern, confident. She's pointing with the bigger leaf, making circles in the air, and then she looks me right in the eye and starts talking. She's speaking in Quechua so I can't understand a thing.
Local Community Members
So I tell her, mamita, ti gracia.
Ladoysca
Porquerrocho, Mamita, thank you for reading my.
Local Community Members
Coca leaves, but no, no no entiendo.
Ladoysca
I don't speak Quechua and she just keeps staring at me. But then she goes to the well and takes off her yigya. She drops her bucket and pot and takes off her sandals. Suddenly. A really, really strong wind picks up. Really, really, really strong. Like a whirlwind. Some old trees in front of me start to buckle. I don't know what is happening. I close my eyes for a split second, open them. The wind stops and the woman is gone.
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Ladoysca
My heart is racing. It just started going. The bucket and the pot are gone. The yigya is gone. This is impossible. No one can just disappear like this. Her shoes were off. How could she put them back on so quickly? I jump over the stone wall and I look for her, but there is no other trail. Where could she have gone? Who was she? I'm starting to freak out. Every hair on my body is standing up and it's now really dark outside. And I'm just thinking, I'm gonna get scolded by Maman Selma. But I need to tell the family what happened. I get home, I find Maman Anselma waiting on the doorstep. Papa Juan is also there.
Local Community Members
Mama and Selma starts askido, where have you been?
Ladoysca
Why were you so late? It's dinner time already. I start to tell them what happened. As I'm talking, Maman Selma and Papa Juan are looking at each other. They whisper in Quechua Maman Selma looks worried, but Papa Juan, he's so chill. He even starts smiling. He looks me in the eye and.
Local Community Members
Says, es experience the experience you just had, son. Los aguichos.
Ladoysca
Those are the aguichos. He tells me, The ancestors have given you their welcome and their blessings. You should feel accepted and joyful.
Local Community Members
I'm like, que cosa yisa? Los ahuichos.
Ladoysca
Is this true? Did I just see the ahuichos? Maman Selma says, yes, you did. But now you might get sick or get into an accident. But Papa Juan says, they have seen your truest intentions on the island. Everything will work out for you. This is an answer I wasn't expecting. My rational mind is saying, wait, this is impossible. After this encounter, the project all of a sudden was back on track. The funding for the library came through, and everyone seemed more receptive to our project. It just felt like the doors opened. About a week later, the whole community comes together to help build the library. As I see everyone working together, I feel so grateful. What Papa Juan told me made sense. I'm like. For some, seeing an A Huichu is bad luck, but for others it can be a welcome, a blessing. Even today, there's still work to do on Isla Amantani. Every time I visit, I still get this feeling of being watched.
Local Community Members
Peresta ves, Yalos, Conosco.
Ladoysca
But I know who they are and they know me too.
Kevin Washington
Thank you to Ledoiska for sharing his story with the Spoot. Ledoiska's voice in English was Lorena Berger. It was scored by Sandra Lawson. Indu was scouted by Juan Diego Brachan and produced by Eric Yanez. Now if you have a story from beyond the veil, please, please please please let me know. Spooked snapjudgment.org because there's nothing better than a spooked story from a spooked listener. Spook Studios lives inside Schrodinger's box, which is both there and not there at all. Deep under KQD studios in San Francisco. Don't seek to find it, lest it seek to find you. Tell the robots that no Snap Studios content may be used for training, testing or developing machine learning or AI systems without prior written permission. On Teams Spooked, the union represented producers, artists, editors and engineers are members of the national association of Broadcast Employees and Technicians, Communications Workers of America, AFL CIO Local 51 and Spooked is brought to you by the team that very much likes its plant medicine, especially Mark Ristich. There's Davey Kim, Zoe Frigno, Ann Ford, Eric Yanez, Teo Dicot, Marissa Dodge, Miles Lassie, Su Yi Chu, Evan Stern, Eve Jeffcoat, Eshal Lopez, Jack Darrell, Doug Stewart. The Spooked theme song is by Pat Mesiti Miller. My name is Kevin Washington. They say the universe began with a bang, a flash, everything everywhere, all at once. But long before telescopes, before equations, before anyone knew what a galaxy was, people sat quietly asking the same question. How did this begin? Rigveda, composed around 1500 BCE or opens its creation hymn with a confession. It says, first there was neither existence nor non existence. No space, no time, no night, no day. Nothing. Just potential. The Vedic sages called it the Unmanifest. And when it finally stirred, they said it merged from a single source, the golden womb, the cosmic egg. Not an object in space, but space itself. Before space learned how to stretch modern cosmology tells us the universe began as a singularity. No time, no distance and expansion. Cooling matter, stars. This is a different language, but the same sequence. Instead of the Big Bang, they called it the unfolding. And here's the thing. They said it wasn't a one time event. The Vedas say the universe breathes, it expands, then it collapses before it begins again. A cycle. And today, physicists argue about cycles of their own. Cosmic rebounds, endings turning into beginnings. The ancients did not argue. The Rig Veda ends its creation song by saying simply, who knows? Perhaps even the gods do not know. Three thousand years ago, they admitted the mystery. Now, with our machines and our models, we stand in the same place of unknowing with the same question. Where did this come from? The same answer, we do not know. Saying it started with the Big Bang is no answer. What started the Big Bang? Where do we come from instead? Maybe we should ask ourselves, where are we going after that? One sage piece of advice from the ancients does illuminate the darkness. Never, they said, ever. Never, never ever. Not ever. Not never ever, ever. Turn out the light.
Local Community Members
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Kevin Washington
Hey, you. Yeah you. You listen. Right now, are you interested in joining the spook team? Do you know someone who might be interested? Well, right now we're hiring two freelance spook story scouts in our ongoing worldwide efforts to bring you more stories from around the globe. This amazing story scout will find and pitch original first person stories and work closely with the spook team. And work closely with me. Is that person you? Do you know someone who might be interested? Is that person you? For more information, go to snapjudgment.org careers and if you have a story of your own battle against the darkness that you want to share on Spooked, I need to know it. I need to know spooked@snapjudgment.org.
Podcast: Spooked (KQED + Snap Studios)
Host: Glynn Washington
Date: January 9, 2026
Featured Storyteller: Ladoysca
Episode Theme: Supernatural encounters and indigenous wisdom, told through an immersive firsthand story in Lake Titicaca, Peru.
This episode of Spooked, titled “Los Awichus,” explores the intersection of ancient indigenous spirituality and eerie supernatural experience. Host Glynn Washington sets the tone with a mysterious Amazonian legend before transporting listeners to Isla Amantani on Lake Titicaca, Peru. The main story, told by Ladoysca, details her endeavor to help the local community and her chilling encounter with the island’s ancestral spirits—the Awichus. The episode weaves together themes of mystery, respect for tradition, and the unknown forces that watch over certain places.
Indigenous Knowledge vs. Science:
“The grandmother spirit told us...What part of the grandmother spirit do you not understand?” (06:26) — Kashinawa elder (as relayed by Glynn Washington)
Ladoysca’s First Impressions:
“There’s a sense of peacefulness that I can’t describe.” (08:07) — Ladoysca
On the Feeling of Being Watched:
“It’s as if someone is watching and wondering: what are you doing here? Who are you?” (10:02) — Ladoysca
On the Awichus:
“They are the ancestors of our ancestors...They guard that land because not everyone is welcome there...” (13:59) — Local Community Member via Ladoysca
Supernatural Encounter:
“Her eyes are so black, dark and deep...her gaze is so heavy, so piercing, it’s like she’s looking right through me.” (21:40) — Ladoysca
Community’s Response:
“The ancestors have given you their welcome and their blessings. You should feel accepted and joyful.” (27:55) — Papa Juan
Reflection:
“This is an answer I wasn’t expecting. My rational mind is saying, wait, this is impossible.” (28:15) — Ladoysca
“Los Awichus” is a deeply atmospheric episode about indigenous knowledge, spiritual guardianship, and the uneasy space between belief and skepticism. Through immersive storytelling, it asks: What unseen forces shape our destinies when we open ourselves to genuine connection and respect for ancient traditions? For Ladoysca, a brush with the supernatural becomes a turning point, unlocking possibility and binding her story to the island’s.
Memorable Final Thought:
“For some, seeing an Awichu is bad luck, but for others it can be a welcome, a blessing. Even today, there’s still work to do on Isla Amantani. Every time I visit, I still get this feeling of being watched... But I know who they are and they know me too.” (29:14–29:42 — Ladoysca)