The Lighthouse - Classic

Summary

Spooked: “The Lighthouse – Classic” (April 10, 2026)

Episode Overview

This episode of Spooked, produced by KQED and Snap Studios and hosted by Glynn Washington (with Zoe Frigno reporting), explores the supernatural legends swirling around the Heceta Head Lighthouse Bed and Breakfast on the Oregon coast. Through firsthand accounts from staff and guests, it investigates the lore of “Rue,” a ghost believed to haunt the property, and the unsettling, inexplicable events experienced by those who have lived or stayed there.

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Key Discussion Points & Insights

1. Setting the Scene: Arrival at the Haunted Lighthouse

• Zoe Frigno recounts her arrival at the Heceta Head Lighthouse Bed and Breakfast, setting a moody, tense atmosphere due to nearby wildfires, ash falling like snow, and a hazy red moon.
• Joined by B&B staff Lena and Rihanna, as well as Rihanna’s partner and child, Zoe hikes up the cliff to the lighthouse at night, emphasizing the location’s eerie beauty.

“Ash was falling from the sky like snow and there was a haze of smoke covering the full moon.” — Zoe Frigno, [04:17]

2. The Legend of Rue

• The B&B, once home to lighthouse keepers and their families, is rumored to be haunted, most notably by a female apparition known as “Rue.”
• Michelle, the B&B manager, describes “Rue” as an old-timey woman often associated with local ghost stories. The name “Rue” allegedly came from a Ouija board session.

“There were stories of people seeing the apparition of a woman wearing old timey clothes. Legend has it that some caretakers … tried to get in touch with her using a Ouija board, and it spelled out R U E. The name stuck.” — Zoe Frigno, [08:50]

• Despite skepticism, Michelle admits experiencing odd phenomena herself, such as objects levitating without explanation.

3. Firsthand Experiences: Skepticism Turns to Belief

• Michelle’s paranormal event: During a wedding service, a bowl of potatoes levitated and dropped to the ground in front of multiple witnesses.

  “The bowl of potatoes basically looked to me like it levitated away from the shelf and dropped to the ground … all of us just paused and looked at each other like, what was that?” — Michelle, [11:02]

• Daniel Walker, former caretaker: Felt a constant “presence” during his first six months and witnessed objects being swept off his nightstand.

  “Suddenly the objects on my end table, box of tissues, my cup just go flying off.” — Daniel Walker, [13:31]

4. Jennifer’s Story: From Skeptic to Witness

• Jennifer, a B&B worker, initially dismisses the ghost stories as local legend, but recounts two chilling personal experiences:
  • The Woman in the Mirror: She sees a dark-haired, 30-something woman in a white blouse sitting pensively in a chair’s reflection. When Jennifer returns moments later, the woman is gone, and no one else is in the house.

    “Out of the corner of my eye, in the very large mirror … I see the reflection of a woman sitting in a chair looking out the window. Her chin is resting on her hand, and she’s very quiet and pensive.” — Jennifer, [15:44]

  • Recognition: Later, she recognizes the woman in a historic photograph as “Jenny,” the actual wife of a lightkeeper, matching the apparition’s description.

    “I absolutely got a shiver up my spine. And I realized that is the woman that I saw sitting in the reflection of the mirror.” — Jennifer, [18:19]

5. Overnight Confrontation with the Unknown

• Jennifer volunteers to stay overnight for security during offseason renovations, bringing her skeptical partner, Steve.

• Strange events escalate:

  • Front door slams and locks itself; keys won’t work until entering through the basement ([24:20]).
  • Unexplained voices: Jennifer twice hears a man and woman’s voices murmuring questions from the parlor ([25:35], [27:20]).
  • Footsteps overhead: Both hear pacing, with increasing urgency and dread ([28:49]–[31:03]).

    “I don’t believe what I’m about to say, but we’re not wanted there. I just feel it on an intuitive level.” — Steve, [31:03]

• Overcome with fear, they flee the house. As they run, their Bluetooth speaker emits loud static — despite being off — until they’re far away ([33:12]–[34:12]).

6. Theories on the Haunting: Who is Rue?

• Jennifer speculates the ghost is not “Rue,” but Jenny, the lonely lightkeeper’s wife, based on her vision and local records ([21:29]).
• Discussion emerges that when things are in disorder or strangers visit, the spirit becomes agitated; several workers report similar experiences of disturbances or helpful tidying.

  “When things are in disarray or a little chaotic around here, that’s when we get participation.” — Michelle, [36:07] “There is a helpful spirit here that is still just kind of taking care of the place and kind of providing hospitality to a certain extent.” — Daniel Walker, [36:17]

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Notable Quotes & Memorable Moments

• Zoe Frigno reflects:

  “It didn’t feel scary in the house. It was actually really cozy and warm. But just for good measure…To Rue, to Jenny, to whoever might be here, thank you for having me. Your house is beautiful and please don’t scare me in the night.” — Zoe Frigno, [37:59]

• Jennifer on seeing Jenny’s picture:

  “I absolutely got a shiver up my spine. And I realized that is the woman that I saw sitting in the reflection of the mirror.” — Jennifer, [18:19]

• Steve’s moment of belief:

  “I don’t believe what I’m about to say, but we’re not wanted there. I just feel it on an intuitive level.” — Steve, [31:03]

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Important Timestamps

• [04:17] – Introduction to the lighthouse’s atmosphere and first hike up the cliff
• [08:50] – Ghost legend origin and history
• [11:02] – Michelle’s levitating potatoes event
• [13:31] – Daniel’s story of poltergeist activity
• [15:44] – Jennifer sees the woman in the mirror
• [22:19]–[34:12] – Jennifer and Steve’s overnight haunting
• [36:07] – Theory: Hauntings occur when the house is chaotic
• [37:59] – Zoe speaks aloud to any resident spirits

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Thematic Takeaways

• The episode underscores the lingering effects of isolation, loss, and longing rooted in a place’s history — whether real, imagined, or somewhere in between.
• It raises timeless questions about spirits: are hauntings echoes of memories, manifestations of unresolved longing, or exaggerations of imagination?
• Above all, it’s a reminder that some places seem to hold onto their past, demanding respect and caution from those who visit or disturb what once was.

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For those who haven’t listened:
This episode offers richly layered, firsthand ghost stories intertwined with thoughtful reflections on history, community legends, and the unexplained — delivering the eerie, empathetic storytelling at the heart of the Spooked series. Would you dare stay at the lighthouse overnight? The answer may depend on whether you believe in the stories… or have experienced them yourself.

Transcript

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[Narrator / Host (Zoe Frigno)]

Sam. A while back, we received a letter from a woman named Jennifer. And Jennifer told us a story about a bed and breakfast on a cliff overlooking the Pacific Ocean. Built next to a lighthouse, this bed and breakfast is where the light keepers and their families lived. And there are rumors that some of them never left. So on a very special episode, we're packing our bags and joining Spook producer Zoe Fergno on a very special field trip. Spook starts Now.

[Zoe Frigno (Producer / Reporter)]

When I first arrived at the Hesita Lighthouse Bed and Breakfast, everyone kept telling me the same thing. You have to walk up to the lighthouse at night. The view from up there is supposedly spectacular. So that evening I waited until the sun went down, and then I headed out up a forested trail that snakes along the edge of a cliff. Along the way, I ran into some people. Two of them, Lena and Rhianna, work at the bed and breakfast. They were on their way up to the lighthouse with Rhianna's partner Dane and nine year old son Adric, and they invited me to join them. To be honest, I was happy to have some company. It was kind of a strange night. Wildfires were burning just to the east of us. Ash was falling from the sky like snow and there was a haze of smoke covering the full moon. Very good.

[Jennifer (Bed and Breakfast Worker)]

You see the red moon?

[Zoe Frigno (Producer / Reporter)]

Yeah. It's really. It's eerie, right?

[Michelle (Bed and Breakfast Manager)]

Yeah.

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[Zoe Frigno (Producer / Reporter)]

Finally, we reached the lighthouse and I understood why everyone had been so insistent that I come up here. The lighthouse is beautiful. It has a bright red roof and underneath it, rays of golden light shoot out in every direction. It's actually the brightest lighthouse beacon in the whole state of Oregon. It can be seen up to 21 miles out at sea. Back in the day, two lightkeepers took turns working through the night keeping the lamps lit. Now, of course, the beacon is automated, but standing underneath the lighthouse in the dark, it was easy to imagine that I was back in the 1890s when it was built. But then Rhianna's son Adric said something that brought me back to the moment and why I was there.

[Jennifer (Bed and Breakfast Worker)]

Hey, it looks like my beeping device. If there's a ghost. Like it rings. Yeah, it does look a lot like, doesn't it?

[Zoe Frigno (Producer / Reporter)]

The recorder looks like your ghost hunting device.

[Jennifer (Bed and Breakfast Worker)]

Oh, cool.

[Zoe Frigno (Producer / Reporter)]

Adric is an amateur ghost hunter. He even has a YouTube channel. So, Adric, you're not scared of ghosts?

[Jennifer (Bed and Breakfast Worker)]

No, never.

[Zoe Frigno (Producer / Reporter)]

How come? You're just very brave.

[Jennifer (Bed and Breakfast Worker)]

Well, all sorts of creepy places. I'm never scared.

[Zoe Frigno (Producer / Reporter)]

Wow, you're braver than me. I'd arrived at the bed and breakfast earlier that day. It's a big white house with a pitched roof and a picket fence that sits right above the ocean. It's gorgeous. But I was a little nervous about spending the night there. I'm a big scaredy cat. I'd actually asked if I could just visit the bed and breakfast and then stay in a hotel in town, but my editor said no. So there I was. I checked into my room and then I went to meet Michelle Corgan, who runs the bed and breakfast, for a tour of the house.

[Michelle (Bed and Breakfast Manager)]

We're going to sneak in through the guest kitchen. I'll show you the behind the scene.

[Jennifer (Bed and Breakfast Worker)]

Cool.

[Zoe Frigno (Producer / Reporter)]

Thank you. Michelle led me through the dining room and two parlors on the ground floor. The house is full of antique furniture and local art, and grainy black and white photographs line the walls. Upstairs, there are six guest rooms, each decorated in a different motif.

[Michelle (Bed and Breakfast Manager)]

This one in particular has a view of the lighthouse. So we call it the light keeper's room. Light shines way above the house, so it doesn't shine right into your. Into your room here. That's beautiful, isn't it?

[Zoe Frigno (Producer / Reporter)]

Yeah. Back in the 90s, Michelle's parents were chosen by the US Forest Service to. To help restore the house and make it more accessible to the public.

[Michelle (Bed and Breakfast Manager)]

And they thought the way to do that would be to turn it into a bed and breakfast. I came here for the summer just to figure out what's next. Grad school, am I going to get some life experience, do some traveling. And I didn't leave. I haven't left the area. And that was over 25 years ago.

[Zoe Frigno (Producer / Reporter)]

By then, the old lightkeeper's home already had a reputation for being haunted by a ghost named Rue. There were stories of people seeing the apparition of a woman wearing old timey clothes. Legend has it that some caretakers of the house tried to get in touch with her using a Ouija board, and it spelled out R U E. The name stuck. Michelle knew about the Rue rumors when she moved into the house, But I've

[Michelle (Bed and Breakfast Manager)]

kind of always downplayed the ghost story because I feel like our intent here is to talk about the history and to really honor the hard work that it took these families to have a go at living, you know, 15 miles from any small town in the middle of nowhere in these harsh conditions.

[Zoe Frigno (Producer / Reporter)]

Does that mean that you don't believe in it?

[Michelle (Bed and Breakfast Manager)]

Oh, no. I think there's definitely something here. I've definitely had some very odd things happen in this house.

[Zoe Frigno (Producer / Reporter)]

In each of the rooms, there's a guest journal where people can write about their stay and whether or not they encountered Rue. Looks like it's a mixed bag. Maybe, maybe not.

[Michelle (Bed and Breakfast Manager)]

Of ghost. Yeah. Well, I've heard that most people who aren't believers have the most experiences.

[Zoe Frigno (Producer / Reporter)]

Okay.

[Michelle (Bed and Breakfast Manager)]

And that people who are really wanting and yearning for an experience have a tough time.

[Zoe Frigno (Producer / Reporter)]

I did not want to have an experience with Rue, but I kept running into the same story, that Rue was the ghost of a lightkeeper's wife whose child died at Heceta Head. Mary Nolte, the historian for the lighthouse, told me that there's no hard evidence to back that theory up, but a lot of people I spoke to who've worked in the house said they don't need evidence to convince them that it's haunted. Michelle told me about the time she worked a wedding at the house.

[Michelle (Bed and Breakfast Manager)]

So there's like, five of us in the kitchen. We're coming to the very end of the service. We have a bowl of little baby potatoes sitting on a shelf and we're standing there and the bowl of potatoes basically looked to me like it levitated away from the shelf and dropped to the ground. And all four, five of us that are there just paused and looked at each other like, what was that?

[Zoe Frigno (Producer / Reporter)]

I also talked to Daniel Walker, who was the caretaker at the house for four years.

[Daniel Walker (Caretaker)]

It sounds kind of silly, but the first six months it felt like I was kind of being put to the test a little bit. When I'm shutting down the house for the night, I could just feel a certain presence kind of hanging over my shoulder.

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[Jennifer (Bed and Breakfast Worker)]

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[Zoe Frigno (Producer / Reporter)]

Daniel and his girlfriend at the time actually lived at the house in an apartment down in the basement.

[Daniel Walker (Caretaker)]

It must have been a few months after we'd gotten here. I'm laying in bed just reading a book. I was the only one in the apartment and suddenly the objects on my end table, box of tissues, my cup just go flying off. Like somebody just took their arm and just kind of like sweeped everything off of the end table.

[Zoe Frigno (Producer / Reporter)]

And then there's Jennifer Chaney. Jennifer's lived on the Oregon coast for

[Jennifer (Bed and Breakfast Worker)]

about 40 years and so I have heard many stories over the years about the Heceta Headlight house and this idea that there was a ghost named Rue,

[Zoe Frigno (Producer / Reporter)]

but that didn't stop her from taking a job at the Bed and breakfast back in 2017. In fact, she liked hearing stories about the ghost.

[Jennifer (Bed and Breakfast Worker)]

Well, I'm always one for a great story, but after working there for a couple of months, I'd come to the point where I haven't had any experiences myself. And I am not really a person who believes in things that are unexplained. I just wrote it off as this is community legend and something fun to talk about. But realistically, I didn't believe that there was anything haunting the house. I'm working at the lighthouse, serving breakfast. On this particular morning, we served all the guests, and all the guests have left. By 10 o', clock, everybody's cleared out and the house is very quiet.

[Zoe Frigno (Producer / Reporter)]

New guests would be arriving in just a few hours. So Jennifer and her co worker Gayle, were hustling to clean up the kitchen and get everything ready. Jennifer grabbed a stack of dishes and headed across the house to put them away.

[Jennifer (Bed and Breakfast Worker)]

I'm walking through the parlor, and out of the corner of my eye, in the very large mirror that sits over the couch in the parlor, I see the reflection of a woman sitting in a chair looking out the window. Her chin is resting on her hand, and she's very quiet and pensive and just staring at the ocean view. She had dark hair. She was probably in her mid-30s. She had her hair up on top of her head and she had a white blouse. I think, oh, one of our guests is still here. And she's just enjoying the view before she leaves. And I think when I come back, I'll make eye contact with her and I'll sit. Isn't it a nice day? Are you still going to stay in town? Anything to just connect with them. So I put the stack of dishes down, turned around and came back, and the woman is no longer sitting in the chair. It was curious to me that she had moved so fast because she was so quiet and still. The way that she was sitting and turned and looking out at the ocean so pensively. I didn't hear her leave. I didn't hear a door. And so I'd come back to the kitchen. And I asked Gail, did a woman come through here? And she said, no. And I said, well, I just saw a woman out in the parlor. I think we still have a guest. And she said, oh, nobody's here. She goes, it's just you and me. We look out into the back where all the cars are, and there's no cars at this time. The guest house is not open for outside visitors. Yet. So I'm not completely sure who I've seen, but I know I saw somebody. I said, gail, I just saw a woman in the parlor. She was sitting in the chair, in the red chair, looking out at the ocean. And she said, well, maybe you saw Roo. There's an awkward moment of, oh.

[Zoe Frigno (Producer / Reporter)]

Huh.

[Jennifer (Bed and Breakfast Worker)]

Maybe that's what I saw. But it didn't seem like a figment to me. I had seen this woman as plain as day. It was probably a month or two later when I was cleaning in the space. And there again, I was alone. The house is quiet. There's nobody there yet. I'm sweeping and dusting up the top of the piano. I look up at the photos that are on the wall, and there's a photo just to the left of the piano of a woman that lived in the Lightkeeper's home for a very long. I absolutely got a shiver up my spine. And I realized that is the woman that I saw sitting in the reflection of the mirror. Jenny. She came there from California, and she was married to one of the Light keepers. I believe it was 1910 or so. The story was that when Jenny was there in the very beginning, she was very unhappy for the first couple of years. She was very lonely. It's very isolated up at the Lightkeeper's home. She didn't have children. She was hoping to bear a child. We had records of her writing home about how lonely she was and desperate she was and that she wanted to leave. I feel like I just saw an image of Jenny sitting there, pondering her life there. I think that the life that Jenny went there to live and that ended up happening for her was not originally what she planned. She married somebody that she barely knew. She came to a place that was very isolated and alone. She probably sat there wondering, am I going to be able to have a baby? Am I going to be able to have a family here of my own? I felt like I could understand how hard that must have been. It was only after being there in a couple years and expressing to her husband her desperation and loneliness that he actually wrote to the Lightkeeper Society and asked permission for her to paint the walls and change some of the decor. And so she began to feel at home.

[Zoe Frigno (Producer / Reporter)]

I asked Jennifer if she thought that the ghost everybody called Rue was actually Jenny. She said, it's possible. After all, there's no record of anyone named Rue ever living in the house. But then again, they didn't always keep a record of the women who lived there, only their husbands.

[Jennifer (Bed and Breakfast Worker)]

So I've Been working at the Lightkeeper's home for about a year and a half. At this point, I'm a believer. But I'm never afraid to be there.

[Zoe Frigno (Producer / Reporter)]

When winter rolled around, the bed and breakfast closed for a couple weeks for renovations. The caretaker needed a night off. So Jennifer's manager asked if anyone else would stay overnight and do security.

[Jennifer (Bed and Breakfast Worker)]

So I immediately say, sure, I'll be glad to stay there. I've stayed there before when other guests were there. I know that it's a beautiful view at night. I want to watch the sunset. I ask my partner to come. We get there just at sunset. It's very dark. I turn on the lights. And a lot of things are covered up with sheets. And moved around to the center of the floor because they're painting the walls. Even the chandeliers are covered with sheets. And Steve comes in behind me and he laughs and says, this is like a Scooby Doo cartoon. You've brought me to a haunted house and everything's covered in sheets.

[Steve (Jennifer's Partner)]

I had heard about the rumors, and so I made a joke. I go zoix, But I don't believe it. I'm a scientist. I don't believe in anything that's not observable, confirmable and or tangible. These were just rumors to me. It's a nice, still, beautiful evening. So we decide to go out to the front porch. Which looks south over the COVID We

[Jennifer (Bed and Breakfast Worker)]

get in position in our Adirondack chairs. And we have our blankets tucked. We open a bottle of wine, and Steve has brought his speaker. It's crabbing season, and you can see all the lights of the fishing boats on the horizon.

[Steve (Jennifer's Partner)]

We're sitting there for about 20 minutes. Listening to a bunch of different tunes. And then all of a sudden, the front door slams closed.

[Jennifer (Bed and Breakfast Worker)]

The music stops. Without any explanation, it gets very quiet. The front door is locked, but I had the keys in my pocket. So I get up and I try the key in the lock. And it won't turn. I can't move it. I can't get it open. It won't open, which I find mysterious. My only other option is to go through the basement door. So I walk around the house, and I go down to the basement door. And this time my key works. The light switch to the basement is all the way on the other side. And I have to go through the dark. I run through as quickly as I can, and I turn the switch on. I run up the stairs. And as I'm walking by the parlor, I hear voices coming from the parlor. And my Heart starts to race a little bit. It was almost like a man and a woman's low murmuring. I can't make out what they're saying, but it sounded like questions. What are they doing here? Why are they here? Who is this? But then as I kind of start to walk forward, they stop. And then I looked into the parlor. There's no one there. It was really unnerving. But then I think I'm probably just getting worked up. Maybe it's wind. So I go back out on the porch. We prop the door a little bit open and we sit there for a few minutes. And we've had our glass of wine and we've enjoyed the view. And it is starting to get a little cold. It is January. We decide we're going to go upstairs and go to bed. So the room that Steve and I decide to stay in that night is the Queen Anne room. And it's really the most romantic. It's got a four post bed, it has draping, it's dark reds and golds. It feels the most elegant and regal. Steve started getting settled and I ran back down to grab some water. And I came back by the parlor and heard the voices a second time. When I heard the voices the first time, I made excuses for it, what it might be. And this time I know I heard voices. I was getting very nervous that something was going on that could not be explained. I just have this uneasy feeling that we're not there alone. I'm going up the stairs and I'm thinking I'm really nervous about staying the night now. But I felt I needed to follow through with my commitment. I had said I would stay there that night for security reasons. And I always do what I say I'm going to do. So I ignored my fear. I figured once we got all settled in, I would feel more comfortable.

[Steve (Jennifer's Partner)]

I'm tired. It's getting late. I have to work early the next morning. So I take my clothes off and pull the sheets back and I climb on into bed. Jennifer's on my right side near the door doing what she needs to do to get ready for bed. And I'm just laying there quietly with my eyes closed. And then all of a sudden I hear a thump upstairs. And then another thump. And then I hear another thump.

[Jennifer (Bed and Breakfast Worker)]

Just thump, thump, thump, thump. Like somebody's pacing.

[Steve (Jennifer's Partner)]

I think, okay, it could be the

[Jennifer (Bed and Breakfast Worker)]

house settling, you know, maybe we have rats in the attic. So I ignore it. And I don't look up at Steve. And I'm changing into my pajamas. I Leaned down. And I hear the steps again.

[Steve (Jennifer's Partner)]

It's moving from the center of the house towards the eastern wall. Then it starts traveling along the same line back. So it's gone from one end to where the window is and back again. I'm thinking, this is weird. Is somebody up there? Maybe there's not a car in the parking lot, but maybe somebody has gotten into the house and jimmied one of the doors and we just didn't notice. But I don't say anything to Jennifer.

[Jennifer (Bed and Breakfast Worker)]

I pull back the covers, and at the. At that moment, I hear the steps for a third time coming back the other way. At this point, I'm scared. I look Steve in the eye and he says, I'm out.

[Steve (Jennifer's Partner)]

I throw back the covers and I tell Jennifer, let's go. We are out of here. I want to go get in our car, and I want to drive home. I don't believe what I'm about to say, but we're not wanted there. I just feel it on an intuitive level,

[Jennifer (Bed and Breakfast Worker)]

and I say, we can't. We can't leave. And he goes, did you just hear footsteps? And I said, yes. And he goes, did you hear it before? And I said, yes. And he goes, you can stay if you want to, but I'm leaving. I say, okay, we'll go. I will tell my manager what happened. She'll understand. It'll be okay. I feel extreme urgency at this point to get out of there and get away from this place that I have always felt comfortable and never scared. So we both start packing up our things. I'm moving as quickly as I can. I throw all my stuff into the bag. I make sure that the lights are off, but I don't even stop to make up the bed. I just wanted to get out of there right then.

[Steve (Jennifer's Partner)]

There's fight or flight. This was flight.

[Jennifer (Bed and Breakfast Worker)]

And then at that point, we're going down the stairs. I have this complete sense of dread. My heart's racing. I'm almost afraid to look back because I feel like there's something behind me. I felt that we were being chased out. I go down the stairs. I run past the parlor. I don't want to hear the voices again. We leave the building and I lock up the doors. We are run walking to the car,

[Steve (Jennifer's Partner)]

And Bluetooth speaker starts going crazy. Static that's increasing louder and louder.

[Jennifer (Bed and Breakfast Worker)]

I look through the bag for the speaker. I find it. It's not on. And then I look back up at the room that we were staying in, and the light is still on. I'm petrified because I was sure that I turned the light off. Something was going on that I could not explain, and we needed to get out of there as quickly as possible. We get in the car, we back up, and as we're leaving, the sound went dim from the speaker.

[Steve (Jennifer's Partner)]

The further we get away, the more relieved I'm feeling.

[Jennifer (Bed and Breakfast Worker)]

We get back closer to town and I can use my phone again. I text my boss and I say, I'm sorry we are not able to spend the night. We had some very strange experiences and I can't explain it, but I'm not comfortable staying. And she writes back and says, now you know why I asked you to stay. I'm not staying there anymore.

[Zoe Frigno (Producer / Reporter)]

When I met Jennifer during my trip to Hisita Head, I asked her what she thinks happened that night.

[Jennifer (Bed and Breakfast Worker)]

I'm almost wondering if when I'm there as a worker, that whatever spirit is present knows me and has accepted me and it doesn't bother me. But now I'm there with this strange man that it doesn't know. If it is Jenny. Perhaps she's confused about why her house is being torn apart, why things are being moved around. Maybe she thinks we're the people that are causing all this disruption in her house.

[Zoe Frigno (Producer / Reporter)]

She told me that she's thought a lot about the work that Jenny put into the house to try to make it feel a little bit more like hers, a little less lonely.

[Jennifer (Bed and Breakfast Worker)]

She found a positive way to spend her time there, and then she became part of the space. And when things are out of order, she gets upset.

[Zoe Frigno (Producer / Reporter)]

Jennifer is not the only person who feels this way. I heard similar theories from Michelle.

[Michelle (Bed and Breakfast Manager)]

When things are in disarray or a little chaotic around here, that's when we get participation.

[Zoe Frigno (Producer / Reporter)]

And from Daniel,

[Daniel Walker (Caretaker)]

a lot of people experience their stuff being moved around so, you know, their slippers will be straightened or their bedspread kind of flattened out. So a lot of the times it seems like there is a helpful spirit here that is still just kind of taking care of the place and kind of providing hospitality to a certain extent.

[Zoe Frigno (Producer / Reporter)]

It doesn't sound very hospitable to me to knock all your stuff off of.

[Daniel Walker (Caretaker)]

Yeah, I don't know what that was about, to be honest.

[Zoe Frigno (Producer / Reporter)]

After my hike up to the lighthouse, I headed back to the bed and breakfast. All the other guests had already gone to bed, and everything was quiet. I walked through the parlor and up the stairs to the Queen Anne room, the same room that Jennifer and Steve had tried to stay in. As I got ready for bed, I was still thinking about all the stories I'd heard about the house. And I started to wonder if Rue or Jenny didn't like it when people made a mess in her house. How did she feel about people with tape recorders wandering around and asking questions? It didn't feel scary in the house. It was actually really cozy and warm. But just for good measure,

[Jennifer (Bed and Breakfast Worker)]

To Rue,

[Zoe Frigno (Producer / Reporter)]

to Jenny, to whoever might be here, thank you for having me. I really appreciate it. Your house is beautiful and please don't scare me in the night. Thank you so much and good night.

[Narrator / Host (Zoe Frigno)]

Thank you. Thank you. Thank you so much to all those who shared their knowledge and their stories about the Lightkeepers home. To Jennifer, to Steve, Michelle, Mary, Daniel and Adric. The story it's dedicated to the memory of Pam Porter, Zoe's beloved grandmother. May you rest in blessings and wherever you are, know that your granddaughter loves you very much as you loved her. The original score for the story was by Doug Stewart. It was produced by Pam Porter's granddaughter, Zoe Frigno. If you need more spooked, be afraid. Because each and every week you can listen anywhere, on any platform. Please let somebody know. It's the only way this works. And spooksters, this was a story about a very specific place. Maybe you know of a very specific place that we need to know about, and if you do, please tell me about it. [e-mail] that's the only way this happens. And there's nothing better than a spooked story from a spooked listener. [e-mail] if you like your storytelling that is not cloaked in shadow, embrace our sister podcast, the amazing stupendous Snap Judgment. Snap is going to take you for a ride. Snap Judgment's on podcast platforms everywhere. This book is brought to you by the team that won't hesitate to travel to a cold, desolated overhang in order to seek the heart of the mystery. Except, of course, Mark Ristage. He's all about the room service in the hot tub. There's Davey Kim, Zoe Frigno, Ann Ford, Eric Yanez, Teo Da Cott, Marissa Dodge, Miles Lassie, Doug Stewart, Paulina Creaky, Elizabeth Z. Pardue, Aditya Matu, and Lulu Jemima. The spook theme song is by Pat McC Miller. My name is from Washington and some things can happen anywhere. Any place you meet that guy, win that car, run from that dog can happen just about anywhere. But other things simply will not occur, cannot occur unless you happen upon one very specific nowhere else in all the universe, not one foot to the left, not one foot to the right. Place, lifetimes, civilizations have been altered because one person stood a hair away from the precipice that another person happened upon. Because all places are not the same as all other places. Places have echoes, places have histories, places have stories. And maybe, maybe places have wants and needs and jealousies and hurts the same as any other energy we might imagine that this place, that this spot wishes us no harm. Perhaps I just say born of my own experience, it's probably best to take some precautions. Caution, my advice is to never ever, never ever, ever turn out the.