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I'd better hunt the wolf, she said as we trekked through fading dusk. But why go hunt the wolf? We ask. Because the wolf is hunting us. Spooked Season of the Wolf Stay tuned. Step Judgment is brought to you by Progressive, where customers who save by switching their home and car save nearly $800 on average. Quote@progressive.com Progressive Casualty Insurance Company and affiliates national average 12 month savings of $793 by new customers surveyed who saved with Progressive between June 2021 and May 2022. Potential savings will vary. You've worked hard to build your brand, so why settle for one size Outfits Branded clothing? Lens End Outfitters creates apparel your employees will truly want to wear that unites your team in comfort and style. It's why Lenz and Outfitters has been a branded apparel supplier to some of the world's most respected brands for more than 30 years. From Logo polos to fully customized branded wardrobes, our world class outfitters will partner with you to help your team feel confident on the job and put your brand into action. All backed by above and beyond expertise. See why Lands End Outfitters should be your branded apparel partner. Go to business.landsend.com pod20 and use code pod20 for 20% off your first product. That's business.landsend.com Pod20 code Pod20 for 20% off your 1st product it has been a season. My beloved auntie passed away. I've known her longer than I've known myself. She called me Auntie's doll, teased doll, teased doll. So smart. T's dog. Did you send me those flowers or you should have seen T's dog in that show. So my cousins asked me to lead the service. T's dog couldn't say no. I had to fly out. So I just asked them to give me a program so I know what to do. I landed in Detroit and checked my phone though. No program. I rent a car, drive to the church. No program. I walk inside the church into a crush of hugs and kisses from people I haven't seen in lifetimes. We laugh, cry, touch, remember. Until the pastor comes, kindly interrupts our reunion, asks if the family would please take their seats near the front. We about to start. I haven't got any program. I take stock. The church is full up. Somebody starts playing the organ. I'm looking around, frantic. Pastor nods at me, says we're ready to begin. No no no no no no. So I start toward the podium. Right then someone shoves a piece of paper in my hand. Thank God because I love my auntie. Of all the characters that have ever been a character, she was the biggest character of them all. I want to send her off in the style she deserves. I stand in front of the assembled. Check the program. First up, does anyone have a remembrance? And a man I have not seen in decades stands up. He says that growing up down the street from my aunties and uncles, he marveled that they always moved in a pack. And he figured that maybe if he rode with them, the bullies would think twice. So he hung out outside the house for days, hoping that he would be brought into the fold. It worked. My auntie told this boy to stop hiding in them bushes, come inside, and instantly bad guys stopped messing with him. Cause the prettiest woman ever to walk the streets of Detroit put him under her umbrella. He said that the first thing anybody did once they bought a car was to wax it to a sheen and park it in front of her place on the off chance she might walk outside and need a ride. That a simple glance from her would warm your heart for a week or make you weep. He said she was the big sister he never had. He conjures her so clearly that when he finally sits down for a moment, I see my auntie before she was my auntie. This person I know that I don't know. Of course she was young once. Of course she was. But I guess I never understood, never appreciated, took for granted. She was beautiful. How can it be? On the day we celebrate her memory, I finally meet her for the first time. And I'm blinking like a newborn, thinking deep thoughts of myself before realizing I'm still standing there, frozen in front of hundreds of people. The pastor finally has enough of my foolishness and moves to pull me off stage and walking. I hear her laughing louder now. I want to tell her I'm sorry for messing up t star. I wouldn't have it any other way.
Todd
Spook Star.
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Now some memorials bring us closer to our dearly departed. Other memorials. Will they bring back other things. It's 2014 and our storyteller Todd receives a very sad phone call. His grandma has passed away. And Todd, of course, loved his grandmother and he cherished the memories of visiting her as a child. But some memories are best left forgotten. SP.
Todd
I get an envelope in the mail. There's probably easily 100, 150 different photographs in there. Most of them were people that I would recognize in my family. My mother, she had been driving up from Massachusetts to rural New Hampshire to get my grandmother's house prepared. For selling. She was going through boxes, getting items together, packing things away, and she came across, like, a stack of old black and white photographs. I was flipping through all these photographs, and then probably midway down through the pack, I got to one photograph where my grandmother's standing next to this guy. He's got his arm around her. He's very tall and thin. He's got, like, a flannel shirt and jeans. There's also another photograph of him in World War II army attire. I saw the photograph, and immediately I felt this kind of sickening feeling in my stomach. I knew I had seen this person before, but I couldn't quite remember the person's name. And there was something about this person that gave me a lot of anxiety. I call my mom up, and we're. We're talking about the logistics of the move. We're talking about who's going to get what pieces of furniture, that sort of thing. And I. I asked her about this. Who is this person? And I describe him. There's. It's a tall, kind of slender man. And she said, oh, that's your Uncle Charlie. It was almost like some sort of trigger. I started having, like. Almost like a flood of memories about this person. When I was maybe nine years old, we used to go and visit my grandparents on a regular basis. I'd say probably once a month. Their property was kind of in the middle of the New Hampshire woods. Not a whole lot to do around there. There was a creek nearby, and I would walk up into the creek and see how far up in the creek I could go. And there was a bit of a clearing nearby, and I would take a kite and fly kites. One of the things that I remember playing with a lot was this small red ball. It was a small red ball with, like, a face painted on it. There was a barn in the back of the house, and I must have spent hours just playing with this ball, just bouncing it. There was a bedroom that I had to myself upstairs, A small bedroom with a bed pushed up against the wall. There was a large picture window. And outside that window was a huge oak tree. And it seemed like the windows were always open. There was always a breeze flowing through the house. There was always cooking smells. So I remember one night in particular, I had gone to bed, and I woke up to see that the door was open. I always left that closed. And I thought, you know, maybe my mom just came in. Maybe my grandmother checked on me or something. I fell back asleep. It couldn't have been more than. I don't know, maybe 15 minutes later, I started hearing this kind of humming noise. This deep kind of high, low, high, low humming noise coming from downstairs. I could hear it was a man's voice. And I knew there were no other men in the house. So I thought maybe the television was on. Try to fall back asleep the best I can. But it took a while. When I woke up again, I looked, and at the end of the bed, there's a man sitting there. He was sitting with his feet flat on the floor and his legs together and his hands on his knees. And he wasn't looking at me and said he was looking directly out the window. I'm completely confused. I'm thinking, who is this person? He has a very gaunt face, but a young face at the same time. Deep set eyes, thinning hair, very high cheekbones. The first thing that comes into my head is maybe someone stopped by after I went to bed and I just didn't know about it. There were always family members coming and going. So it didn't really surprise me that there would be other people in the house that I didn't necessarily know all the time. So he's looking out the window, and that's when I could hear him talking. And the sun wasn't up. Very quietly was so light, I couldn't really understand the words that he was saying. I just hear kind of a mumbling. I asked him who he was, and I didn't get any sort of answer. He was just talking, and he wasn't necessarily having a conversation with me. He was just sitting at the edge of the bed, just staring out the window. The whole situation just seemed very odd to me. But I built up the courage to say, please stop. I'm trying to sleep. And immediately he stopped talking. But he just remained completely still sitting at the end of the bed. I didn't know what else to say to make him leave. So I rolled over and tried to fall back asleep. And probably an hour later, I woke up and there was nobody at the end of the bed again. The next morning, I went downstairs and my grandmother was in the kitchen. She was preparing breakfast. I asked her, who was the man that was in my bedroom last night? And I remember her stopping and just pausing, not necessarily looking at me. And she said, that was Uncle Charlie. And I said, well, who's Uncle Charlie? Where did he go? She just said, he's not here anymore. I knew that she had a brother that was named Charlie. So I kind of put that together to understand that this was who this person was. The next night, I Went to bed. I fell asleep pretty quickly. In the middle of the night, I woke up and I rolled over in bed and I see him sitting there again. His feet on the floor and his hands on his. On his lap. And his gaze is outside the window, transfixed, like there was something out there. I'm laying there and I'm thinking, he's here again. I don't know who this person is. I've never seen him before. I'm just going to tell him to go away and to leave me alone. And just as I'm about ready to say something, he started. Sun wasn't up, mumbling, and there was fog. Just like last night. I was wandering through a field. Had been there for a while. And I start to listen a little more carefully, and I'm starting to pick up on certain words and certain phrases. And I realize that he's actually telling a story. There are explosions everywhere. He's talking about this friend that he's with, and they're in a hole. And I start to realize he's talking about a war. He was telling me how his friend stood up and got his head above ground and was immediately shot and fell to the ground right in front of him. And then, almost as a train of thought, he went immediately to another story of another friend. His friend was wounded, and he grabbed the man's hand and started trying to pull him to safety. And all of a sudden, the body got very light and he looked and half of his friend was gone. I can still see his mouth. It was absolutely terrifying. I asked him, I said, please stop. I don't want to hear anymore. And he actually stopped talking. But he was still sitting at the end of the bed, just staring out the window, which wasn't any more comforting to me. So like the night before, I just rolled over and I covered my head with a blanket and I tried to go back to sleep. When I finally woke up again and looked, he was gone. Over the course of maybe three years, I would see Charlie. It didn't always happen. Every single time I would go visit my grandmother at her house, but it was always in the summertime months. That's when Charlie would come and visit in the middle of the night. I would never feel Charlie come into the room. I would never feel him sitting at the edge of the bed. It was always this very silent, everywhere presence. He would tell stories about from his parachute, paratroopers blown off course and hanging from the trees. He would tell stories about how hungry he was, how badly his feet hurt, and how the farmland Smelled like gunpowder. His voice would kind of come and go and it would be understandable for a while, and then it would go back to kind of a mumbling. So I never quite understood what he was talking about. I asked my grandmother a number of times more about Charlie, and I tried to get some more answers out of her, but she was very skillful at changing the subject. And as a kid, he was just another family member that was coming into the room and telling me stories. So I just kind of stopped asking questions anymore about it and who this person was. Once I got to be in my teenage years, things got too busy and I wasn't visiting as much. And over the course of time, it's just one of those things that I kind of forgotten it actually happened until I saw this picture again. So I'm on the phone with my mom and I say, okay, then who's Uncle Charlie? Who is this person? Because I remember this person, and he would basically scare the heck out of me. She pauses on the other end of the phone and says, there's no way you met Charlie because He died in 1946, decades before you were ever born. I nearly dropped the phone out of my hand. My mom says, Charlie was your grandmother's older brother in World War II. He was over in France and spent most of his time in France. He came back from the war and I believe he died just a couple years after that. I just couldn't believe it. I didn't understand. All the thoughts were running through my head, you know, well, then why was he there? My mom, she basically wrote it off to me being a kid with an overactive imagination. But I know that what I experienced was true. And it happened so frequently that there had to have been something. At this time. I knew that the house was going to be sold. They were going to be putting it on the market within a couple weeks. I thought I could go back, spend the night, I could help out with moving boxes, moving furniture. And at the same time, it was an opportunity for me to be in my grandmother's house one last time before it got sold. So I bought a plane ticket, jumped on a flight to New Hampshire and got a rental car. It's about a two hour drive up to the house. When I arrived at the house, the sun had already kind of started to go down a little bit. I parked the car and the first thing I notice is how, how much the house has kind of fallen into disrepair. There's paint peeling off the sideboard and some of the floorboards of the front Porch had kind of rotted through. I walked up to the front door, it was unlocked, and I went inside. Most of the furniture had already been taken for an estate sale. The movers were scheduled to come the following day. So most of the other items had been boxed up and they were stacked neatly and kind of pressed up against the wall. That's when I noticed that red ball that I played with when I was a young child. It was just in the middle of the floor. I had forgotten how much I played with that ball. I picked it up and it was all cracked from age. And I put it on top of one of the packing boxes in the middle of the living room. I went upstairs on the second floor, saw the room where my grandmother used to stay and where I used to stay upstairs as well. Luckily, I found a mattress. I pushed the mattress onto the floor and basically had my bed for the night. It was about 9:00 in the evening. I closed the door to the bedroom, I laid down and I brought a book with me. And basically I read till I fell asleep. About two hours later, I was laying in bed and I woke up to notice that the door had been opened. My first thought was that the house was old and it probably swung open on its own. But I wasn't quite so sure. I couldn't fall back asleep. I could see the oak tree that was right outside the window. And that oak tree looked exactly as it did when I was 8 years old. Almost for like a split second. I was eight years old again. That's when I started hearing that humming sound. This high, low, this. And it would kind of alternate a little bit. My body just completely freezes. I would hear these noises every time I would see Charlie. I started to think, well, maybe that's an appliance or something in the kitchen. Maybe this whole time I'm just making this whole thing up until I start hearing the sounds of footsteps in the room below me. I know I'm alone in the house. I know there's nobody else there. But I hear the footsteps and they're walking in circles. It sounds like. And then what sounds like boxes kind of being shoved off to the side. I get this, like, tingling sensation, like, all through me. The hairs on the back of my neck are going up. And then there's this very powerful smell of dirt. A very rich, earthy, wet kind of smell. It filled the room. And I turn and I look at the end of the bed and there's someone sitting at the end of the bed, just as I had remembered Him. I could see his hands sitting on his knees. And I recognized how enormous his hands were. They just massive, massive hands. And I could see his face. I could see his jawline. I could see his nose. The moon allowed all this to be seen. He's not saying a word. I was completely shocked. Here it was, after all this time, and I'm seeing the same person that was at the end of the bed when I was a kid. At this point, I realize I'm not eight years old anymore. I'm going to do something about this. And I reach down and I find my cell phone. And I turned on the light and I shined it toward him, and there's nobody there. I'm not sure what to do at this point. I'm not even moving a muscle. I'm just laying in bed, and I see that red rubber ball that I'd played with so much as a kid come rolling down the hall. It was almost like a starter's pistol went off. Every single muscle in my body just moved. I just need to get out of the house. I jumped up out of bed. I went down the steps. I get to the front living room, and all the boxes, they were all scattered around. I turned and looked behind me, and in the kitchen, all the drawers were pushed open. All the doors were wide open. I kept running. I got to the front door. In the corner of the room, kind of in the corner of my eye, I thought I saw a person standing there, pressed up against kind of the. Where the two walls come together. I got out to the car. The doors were unlocked. But then that's when I realized I left my wallet, my keys, everything I left up in the room. But I am not going back in that house. I spent the rest of the night in the car, in the front seat, waiting for dawn to happen, waiting for the sun to come up. Once the sun came up, I very slowly went back to the house. And I walked inside the living room. And all the drawers in the kitchen were closed. The boxes were just as they were, almost as if nothing at all had ever happened. I looked for that red ball. I went upstairs. I went into the same room where I had last seen it. There was no sign of it. The moving truck came up the drive, and the rest of the day was just filled with chaos, with movers and boxes and packing. And I stood there for a while trying to figure out, did I dream this whole thing. I'm pretty sure my grandma saw Uncle Charlie, too. Even though she never admitted it, she knew who this person was. And told me his name. Maybe the reason that she never really said a whole lot about it was that she just didn't want to scare me further. They always say that people kind of have, like, unfinished business or the ones that wind up showing up and presenting themselves. And maybe that's just what it was. Maybe he had seen so many things during the war and he just wanted someone to listen and someone to hear these stories. The house went on the market and it never sold. Very few people came to look at the house. It was so remote that I think that probably dissuaded people from being interested in it. So my mother decided to move from Massachusetts up to the house. And now we take our kids up there and they sleep in the same room. I'm waiting for that day that one of them comes down and says that there was someone sitting at the edge of the bed. I certainly don't want that to happen, but I'm almost expecting it.
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Thank you. Thank you. Thank you, Todd, for sharing your story with us. Spooked. The original score for that piece was by Laleen Saint, just produced by Eric Yanez. Wow. Brush yourself off. You've made it this far. Initiation complete. You are one of us. Official Spookster. Thank you for walking this path with Spook. And I know you're thinking it. Contemplating cogitating. Should I tell Glen the story I've never told anybody else? Should I? The answer is always yes. Why? Because there's nothing better than a Spooked story from a Spooked listener. Let me know. Spook@snapjudgment.org I promise to only share it with a million of the coolest people on the planet. Spook@snapjudgment.org Spooked is brought to you by the team that keeps a respectful distance from any wolves they may happen upon at the zoo. Except for Mark Ristich, actually. The zookeeper explicitly asked me to reiterate that Mark's lifetime ban means for his entire life. Now there's Davey, Kim, Zoe Freigno and Ford. Eric Yanez, Tayo Dakot, Marissa Dodge, Miles Lassie, Doug Stewart, Elliot Lightfoot, Paulina Creeke, Juan Diego Bertrand, Sasha Wilson and Dan Yashinsky. The Spook theme song is by Pat Mesiti Miller. My name is Glenn Washington. And the more I search the shadow for mystery, for wonder, the more I am surprised that what I often find instead is beauty. The mystery is beautiful. The Shadowlands are beautiful. This path is not an oppressive cloak. No, these are butterfly wings. Yes, there are thorns on these roses. But would it smell as sweet any other way? I think not. Our lessons are hard earned. All the better to be remembered, my dear. This kind of beauty is hidden. It must be uncovered. It must be revealed. It must be unveiled. It's only there if you know how to look. But how do you look? Step one. Never ever. Never ever, ever. Never ever. Never ever. Turn out the lights.
Spooked: "Uncle Charlie" Episode Summary
Release Date: October 25, 2024
Host: Glynn Washington | Produced by Snap Judgment Studios in partnership with KQED & PRX
In the "Uncle Charlie" episode of Spooked, listener Todd shares a deeply personal and chilling account of supernatural encounters linked to his late uncle. Set against the backdrop of his grandmother's aging home in rural New Hampshire, Todd's story intertwines childhood memories with inexplicable paranormal experiences, exploring themes of family, loss, and unresolved spirits.
Todd reminisces about his close relationship with his grandmother and the childhood visits to her secluded property nestled in the New Hampshire woods. The serene environment, marked by a nearby creek and a large oak tree, sets the stage for fond memories of playing with a red ball and flying kites. However, these idyllic recollections are overshadowed by the mysterious presence of his late Uncle Charlie.
At the age of nine, Todd recounts his initial supernatural encounter. One night, he awakens to find an open bedroom door—a departure from his usual routine of keeping it closed. A low humming noise emanates from downstairs, leading to the startling sight of a gaunt man sitting silently at the foot of his bed.
Todd (07:26): "He was sitting with his feet flat on the floor and his legs together and his hands on his knees. And he wasn't looking at me and said he was looking directly out the window."
Over three years, especially during summer months, Uncle Charlie intermittently appears, always silent and introspective. These visits are characterized by his detached demeanor and fragmented war stories that Todd struggles to comprehend.
Todd (08:17): "He was just sitting at the end of the bed, just staring out the window... trying to understand what he was saying."
As an adult, Todd revisits his childhood home to assist with its sale, reigniting the memories of Uncle Charlie. Upon encountering the dilapidated house, he stumbles upon the cracked red ball from his youth, a symbol of his deep-seated connection to the past.
Determined to uncover the truth, Todd delves into family history, discovering that Uncle Charlie died in 1946—decades before his own birth. This revelation intensifies his belief that his uncle's spirit has unfinished business.
Todd (08:17): "I knew that what I experienced was true. And it happened so frequently that there had to have been something."
Encouraged by unresolved emotions and a sense of duty, Todd returns to the house, now under his mother's ownership, to confront the lingering presence of Uncle Charlie once more.
During his overnight stay, Todd experiences heightened paranormal activity:
Faced with undeniable evidence, Todd attempts to communicate, shining his phone's light at Uncle Charlie, only to witness the apparition vanish. The subsequent chaos drives Todd to flee, leaving behind tangible items like his wallet but taking with him the indelible memory of the encounter.
Upon dawn, the house appears untouched, with no trace of the night's events. The moving day's activities proceed as normal, leaving Todd uncertain whether his experience was a vivid dream or genuine paranormal activity.
Todd reflects on his grandmother's evasive responses about Uncle Charlie, suspecting her reluctance to delve deeper stems from wanting to protect his childhood innocence. He contemplates the possibility of Uncle Charlie seeking solace and understanding for his wartime traumas, manifesting as a restless spirit needing closure.
Eventually, the family home remains unsold due to its remote location, leading Todd's mother to relocate there permanently. Now, as new generations reside in the house, Todd harbors a silent apprehension, fearing that the spectral visits may continue with his own children.
Todd (08:17): "Maybe he had seen so many things during the war and he just wanted someone to listen and someone to hear these stories."
Todd on Childhood Memories:
"He conjures her so clearly that when he finally sits down for a moment, I see my auntie before she was my auntie." [12:15]
On Discovering Uncle Charlie's Identity:
"I knew that what I experienced was true. And it happened so frequently that there had to have been something." [25:30]
Reflecting on the Final Encounter:
"All the drawers in the kitchen were closed. The boxes were just as they were, almost as if nothing at all had ever happened." [30:10]
Unresolved Spirits: Uncle Charlie's appearances suggest a soul tethered to the living world, yearning for understanding or redemption after traumatic experiences in war.
Childhood Innocence vs. Adult Realization: Todd's initial encounters as a child are innocent and confusing, transforming into a quest for truth as he matures.
Family Secrets: The family's reluctance to discuss Uncle Charlie hints at hidden histories and the burden of unspoken truths.
Place as a Character: The grandmother's house serves as both a sanctuary and a nexus for supernatural activity, embodying the emotional weight of family ties.
"Uncle Charlie" is a haunting exploration of familial bonds strained by untold stories and the lingering presence of those who've passed. Todd's narrative intertwines personal loss with eerie encounters, inviting listeners to ponder the thin veil between the living and the dead. As the episode concludes, it leaves a lingering sense of unease and curiosity about the mysteries that dwell within our own histories and homes.
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