#101 - Edy Modica and Clare O'Kane

Summary

Podcasts Summary: Stavvy's World Episode #101 – Edy Modica and Clare O'Kane

Release Date: November 4, 2024

Welcome to Stavvy's World, hosted by the ever-charismatic Stavros Halkias. In Episode #101, Stavros sits down with his friends Edy Modica and Clare O'Kane to delve into a myriad of engaging topics ranging from the behind-the-scenes intricacies of filmmaking to personal anecdotes from their acting school days. The trio also tackles listener-submitted relationship dilemmas, offering a blend of humor and unconventional advice that Stavvy's audience has come to love. This comprehensive summary captures the essence of their lively discussion, highlighting key moments and notable quotes.

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Introduction and Welcoming the Guests

The episode kicks off with Stavros warmly welcoming Edy and Clare to the "Stavvy's World" couch, setting a friendly and relaxed tone.

Stavros Halkias [01:03]:
"Welcome everybody to Stavvy's World. 904800 staff call in. We'll solve all your problems right now."

Edy and Clare reciprocate the warm welcome, reminiscing about their shared experiences and introducing the central theme of the episode—discussing their latest independent comedy film.

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Behind the Scenes: Making the Movie

A significant portion of the conversation revolves around the challenges and triumphs of producing their independent comedy, presumably titled "Our Original Cult."

Stavros Halkias [02:30]:
"We said we wanted to make a movie. And by the end, it was like, I'm gonna fucking kill myself if we don't get this shot. But we got the movie made, and that's what's important."

Production Hurdles

Edy shares concerns about potential red flags during production, highlighting the unpredictable nature of filmmaking.

Edy [02:13]:
"I saw some red flags popping up."

Stavros recounts a particularly memorable setback—a fire at the barn during filming—which jeopardized their final scene.

Stavros Halkias [03:06]:
"There was a fire when we were at the barn. It caused us to miss the last shot of the whole movie."

Despite these obstacles, the team persevered, culminating in a triumphant wrap-up session at Denny's.

Stavros Halkias [04:24]:
"We just hit Denny's afterwards. It was like 6:00am with Wes, Saxon, the camera operator, Ben Kitnick, our director. It was the most triumphant Denny's ever was."

Creative Choices and Reflections

The discussion takes a humorous turn as Stavros critiques creative decisions in their film, such as the use of fake props.

Stavros Halkias [06:05]:
"My biggest artistic gripe with the movie is that they didn't let me use my real balls. I really wanted to use my real balls."

Edy reflects on the makeup challenges faced during filming, drawing parallels to iconic movie transformations.

Edy [10:15]:
"He did the makeup on the movie The Fly. I guess you were dripping all over Jeff Goldblum."

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Acting School Adventures

Stavros and his guests nostalgically discuss their time in acting school, sharing anecdotes about challenging roles and the pressures of performance.

Stavros Halkias [11:43]:
"I auditioned for later on, like when it was time to go to high school, because Baltimore's like, there's two good schools, three okay schools. And everything else is like, scary to be at."

Clare reminisces about playing a closeted gay character in a high school play, touching on the emotional complexities involved.

Clare [41:01]:
"I had to play a closeted gay guy who kills himself at the end. It was a campy sort of comedy."

The trio delves into the impact of these early experiences on their personal growth and careers.

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Personal Reflections and Life Lessons

The conversation shifts to introspective discussions about personal growth, dealing with corporate pressures, and navigating life post-acting school.

Stavros Halkias [16:23]:
"Another thing too. I used to do like..."

Edy shares her journey from high school plays to pursuing law, highlighting the challenges of balancing personal aspirations with external expectations.

Edy [25:19]:
"Be stand-up comedian. Meet Conan O'Brien. Be in an IFC movie. I ended up doing most of those."

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Relationship Advice: Listener Call-In Segment

A significant portion of the episode is dedicated to addressing listener-submitted relationship issues, where Stavros and Clare offer their candid and often irreverent advice.

Caller 1: Dealing with an Unending Ex-Relationship

A caller seeks help regarding her brother's entanglement with an ex-girlfriend who continues to involve him with her child.

Caller 1 [51:02]:
"He keeps showing up to our family events with her kid months and months later."

Stavros Halkias [53:07]:
"He's a Mount Rushmore level simp with no question."

The hosts dissect the complexities of the situation, emphasizing the need for clear communication and boundary-setting.

Caller 2: Navigating Age-Gap Relationships and Sexual Confidence

Another caller, a young woman in a relationship with a significantly older man, grapples with his diminishing sexual desire and reliance on manipulative tactics like "red pill" strategies.

Caller 2 [71:22]:
"He's kind of anti. Like dick pills."

Stavros Halkias [73:05]:
"It's insane to be in one of those relationships where you only see each other once a week and not... Yeah, that's crazy."

Stavros and Clare offer blunt advice, encouraging honest conversations and self-reflection to address underlying issues.

Clare [89:41]:
"And change your pronouns while you're at it."

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Product Sponsorships and Integrations

Throughout the episode, Stavros seamlessly integrates product sponsorships into the conversation, maintaining the episode's entertainment value while promoting various brands.

Stavros Halkias [11:07]:
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Stavros Halkias [49:53]:
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Despite the frequent sponsorship mentions, Stavros maintains a balance, ensuring that the content remains engaging and primarily focused on the discussions with his guests and listener interactions.

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Conclusion and Final Thoughts

As the episode winds down, Stavros and Clare reflect on the multifaceted discussions, emphasizing the importance of authenticity, personal growth, and maintaining healthy relationships. They sign off with a humorous nod to their ongoing projects and a heartfelt thank you to their listeners.

Stavros Halkias [103:18]:
"Thank you so much for coming guys. This is so fun. And we'll see you guys later. Bye bye. Bye."

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Notable Quotes:

• Stavros Halkias [02:30]:
  "I'm gonna fucking kill myself if we don't get this shot. But we got the movie made, and that's what's important."

• Edy [02:13]:
  "I saw some red flags popping up."

• Stavros Halkias [06:05]:
  "My biggest artistic gripe with the movie is that they didn't let me use my real balls."

• Clare [41:01]:
  "I had to play a closeted gay guy who kills himself at the end."

• Stavros Halkias [53:07]:
  "He's a Mount Rushmore level simp with no question."

• Clare [89:41]:
  "And change your pronouns while you're at it."

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Final Thoughts:

Episode #101 of Stavvy's World offers a whirlwind of engaging discussions, from the hurdles of independent filmmaking to navigating the murky waters of personal relationships. Stavros Halkias, alongside his guests Edy Modica and Clare O'Kane, provides listeners with relatable content peppered with humor and candid insights. Whether you're a fan eager for a peek behind the scenes or someone seeking unconventional relationship advice, this episode delivers a rich and entertaining experience that encapsulates the essence of hanging out with your pal Stav.

Transcript

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[Stavros Halkias]

Welcome everybody to Stavi's World. 904800 staff call in. We'll solve all your problems right now. Obviously you recognize who we have on the couch. They're part of what's now sweeping the nation. Let's start a cult. By now we've been in theaters for a couple weeks. We've probably beaten My Big Fat Greek Wedding as the number one independent comedy of all time. Or maybe she was romantic comedy. That's really my idol. No joke. Not even kidding. My Big Fat Greek Wedding. The number one grossing. Shout out to Nia. Shout out to Windex. Great, great bit. A lot of good stuff in that movie. But I remember being a little kid and being like, Joey Fatone. He's not even Greek. It pissed me off that he was in it. But since then I've realized there's not that many working Greek actors. Nia was doing her best and I don't hold it against her casting Joey Fatone. Nia, please come do Stavi's World. She would. She's actually the dream guest. But yes, obviously from our original cult. You guys know Edie and Claire. Yeah. How's it going, gang? Thanks for coming out.

[Eldis]

Chill.

[Stavros Halkias]

Chilling, chilling. Yeah, yeah. Remember our magical cast? BWW dinner. Buffalo Wild Wings. I do.

[Eldis]

That was pretty good.

[Stavros Halkias]

That was pretty good.

The entire experience was actually.

It was fun. Yeah. Well, you guys came for the first part where it was like, we're making a movie.

Ye.

It's so awesome. And then as soon as you guys left, it was like, okay, this is pretty fun. And then, like, two days later, it's like, all right, hey, we wanted to do this. We said we wanted to make a movie. And it was like. By the end, it was like, I'm gonna fucking. If we don't get this shot, I'm gonna fucking kill myself. And. But we got a movie made, and that's what's important.

[Eldis]

I saw some red flags popping up.

[Stavros Halkias]

Yeah, yeah. Oh, yeah. Oh, yeah.

There were some moments.

Yeah.

[Eldis]

There were plenty of bagels, though.

[Stavros Halkias]

And just so you know, remember how good the food was? Got much, much better.

[Eldis]

Yeah, I'm sure.

[Stavros Halkias]

Oh, I'm sure there was a fire.

Oh, that's right. There was a fire when we were there at the barn. Remember? There was a fire at the barn? Wow, that really. Actually, you know what's funny? That caused a lot because we had to. We. That ended up being the shot we couldn't get because of the fire. Had to be the last shot of the whole movie. And we were about to get it, and then a thunderstorm happened, and they were like, legally, we cannot shoot right now. They made a stop, or it was. First it was raining, and then it was like, because of lightning, everyone has to go inside. And then we just had to wait. We were about to wrap. It was the last shot, and then we had to. I. We waited for. Till, like, 4 or 5am to the point where we just. We got the shot with, like, just a cameraman and me, and. And then we just hit Denny's afterwards. It was like 6:00am Me, Wes, our boy Saxon, the camera operator, Ben Kitnick, of course, our director. It was pretty nice. It was the most triumphant. The Denny's was good.

Yeah.

So just to kind of pump this movie, we ate at both Buffalo Wild Wings and Denny's. And that's kind of the most important thing you guys need to know about.

[Eldis]

Started at Buffalo Wild Wings.

[Stavros Halkias]

It started bubble, always. It ended at Denny's. How beautiful.

[Eldis]

That's gorgeous.

[Stavros Halkias]

That's beautiful American art right there.

[Eldis]

I think you brought together a nice little cast, too. Alt comedy classics.

[Stavros Halkias]

It's true.

Yep. We did have a great cast to the point where it's, like, so funny how, like, people are going to be mad at how little funny people. Like, there's so many funny people in there, in the movie for, like, two and a half minutes.

I was shocked you even are having a song. Yeah, I saw, like, my parents saw the poster, and they were like, oh my God, she's on the poster. I'm not even in it. I'm not in it. Yeah, I know that.

[Eldis]

And all your dumb fuck fans, like.

[Stavros Halkias]

Yeah, you're on the fucking poster with my boy.

[Eldis]

Yeah, I guess I am.

[Stavros Halkias]

Congrats. That's gonna be awesome for you, actually.

Yeah, thank you.

No worries.

[Eldis]

Your fans actually rock. I think they're gonna love the movie because they will.

[Stavros Halkias]

It is actually funny. I don't know. I know that we. We don't have to suck our own dicks here for making a good movie too much, but I just wanted to make. I don't know. Nobody just makes a stupid ass comedy. Like, no one makes something stupid. Yeah, it's dumb as. It's not like a good movie. It felt like a funny comedy.

Or like the way that like the jokes are like fat and ugly.

Yeah, yeah, yeah. Classic stuff. Yeah. Remember the fake balls?

[Eldis]

Yeah.

[Stavros Halkias]

I could not forget that was so.

No, that's one of my big talking points in promoting the movie because you gotta give them a little something, you know. So I've let everybody know. My only. My biggest artistic gripe with the movie is that they didn't let me use my real balls. I really wanted to use my real balls.

Long John Silver.

As hard they were. Long and small. I have. I don't have Hard as hard. Yeah, they were hard. Yeah, they were really hard. They looked a lot like this. Like the ones you hang off a. A car. A truck. Yeah, Truck nuts took.

[Eldis]

Taken a beating.

[Stavros Halkias]

Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, they were. So that is my biggest. And I still was lobbying. I was like, can we get a close up of my real nuts in there? Can I send you something to take a look at?

We'll talk about it later.

[Eldis]

Dude.

[Stavros Halkias]

I just kept emailing the production company more and more high def pictures of my balls just in case. Can you overlay these? You know, we've got to be close to being able to.

[Eldis]

Why couldn't you show your own balls?

[Stavros Halkias]

They were just scared of the nudity aspect, I guess.

Everybody's so scared.

Is it hard when you're an artist and these big corporations try and, you know, neuter you? They literally.

It would be good for the world to see your real ass balls.

Yeah, that would have been funny though. I guess you're right. Now I'm thinking of what I'm lobbying for and it's for the, like at the premiere, like my mother seeing my balls, like, and a bunch of actors.

In a room and your balls are out.

Hey, hey. We want to clear the room, you wouldn't have had to look at my real balls. We could have used the fake one for the scene and then, you know, got the intimacy coordinate. Intimacy, yeah. Inserted my balls. Sorry to get so Hollywood, guys. I'm a fucking actor now, so you can forget this podcast has maybe, you know, two months left. Elvis, what do you think we're going to do? We're going to do eight episodes where it's all ads to contractually finish our obligations, where it's like just twisted tea ad, tushy ad after gambling ad, just to finish that out. And then I'm. I'm buying a place in Malibu. We're gonna start surfing.

[Eldis]

Eldest, you're coming, Jonah Hill?

[Stavros Halkias]

Yep, Jonah's coming.

[Eldis]

You know, following his footsteps.

[Stavros Halkias]

Oh, yeah, yeah, yeah. Absolutely. I can't wait. Eldest isn't gonna be allowed to surf without a shirt on anymore. I'm gonna be like, you better put that. Those tits away, elders. Those are just for me, dude. Yeah. Ah, good stuff. You guys ever had to show nudity in a movie?

[Eldis]

I have.

[Stavros Halkias]

Yeah. We both showed our bush.

Oh, no.

Yeah, yeah. In high maintenance.

[Eldis]

Yeah.

[Stavros Halkias]

Oh, you showed bush in that.

And Amazon, right?

[Eldis]

Amazon for pilot that didn't get picked up because the bush was too thick. Good bush.

[Stavros Halkias]

Yeah. Yeah. What was your strategy in terms of how much. What the bush was gonna look like? Did you. Did you just kind of.

[Eldis]

Whatever was going on, I wasn't in my purview. I was.

[Stavros Halkias]

Didn't even think about it. Didn't think it's perfect as it is.

Anybody, like, trimming? Like, really?

[Eldis]

A makeup guy who was like, they were. Because it was a period piece, didn't know if they should make it bigger.

[Stavros Halkias]

Oh, wow.

[Eldis]

It was already pretty big. And they kind of. The pussy was big enough. So there's this guy looking at my mound.

[Stavros Halkias]

Just the marrow.

Let's flick that thing, get it bigger.

Can we engorge that? Somebody get the vacuum out. Let's hit this with a Hoover for a couple seconds. We got those pneumatic tubes they used to do bank notes in. Let's put it in that for a second.

[Eldis]

This guy, he was so gross. He was, like, grossed out by it.

[Stavros Halkias]

Gay guy don't want to, like. Yeah.

[Eldis]

And he didn't want it. Touch slimy.

[Stavros Halkias]

Climb slimy Hairy.

That is a brutal thing for a gay guy to have to deal with. He was like, I want to be in the pictures. I don't want to see ever. I'm at work.

[Eldis]

And. But he was so grossed out. And then I found out he did the makeup on the movie the Fly.

[Stavros Halkias]

I guess you were dripping all over Jeff Gold.

Yeah. Weird ass, half fly. Jeff Goldblum. Not a problem for him.

[Eldis]

That was gnarly.

[Stavros Halkias]

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[Eldis]

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[Stavros Halkias]

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[Eldis]

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You know, I went to acting school and there was like one just. This is like nudity related. O There was this one teacher who like it. Acting school is such like.

You look back and you're like so stupid.

It's ridiculous. And it's all the teachers are like people who wish that they.

Of course.

[Eldis]

Yeah.

[Stavros Halkias]

Actors. So then they use their power against you.

Yeah.

Mean as to you.

It's their one moment because they know statistically they're going to come across a handful of people that will be successful.

[Eldis]

Yes.

[Stavros Halkias]

And for those moments they get to be. It's like. You know how time doesn't matter. There's an in if they get to exert their power over somebody who will be more successful later on. But there's a time in the universe where there. Yeah, yeah.

There was one teacher who was like is there something wrong with your eyes in front of the class?

That's awesome.

No, there's nothing wrong.

What was Going on just the way you look.

I. She just wanted to hurt me. There's this other teacher who, like, it was known that he. He loved. He respected you more if you did nudity in his class.

Interesting.

And I was in a scene with this guy and like, I played a nun, but the guy had to be naked. And he was, like, so excited to be naked.

Oh, really?

We had to stand behind this, like, partition before we came out. And we're like, standing this close to each other. He's completely naked. And he was going like this on his dick with two fingers, like, cigarette to get it, like. So it wasn't totally soft.

He was fluffing like this. Well, you gotta respect. You gotta respect. He could have jacked it. He was doing a professional. He was doing a professional reverse flick. And I've never thought about it.

Rehearsal, we did, like. He was like, can you, like, take your clothes off too?

And I was like, okay, you play a nun.

I play a nun who doesn't take.

What was the scene?

I don't remember. Remember?

God, that's so funny.

It was like we were in a cave. It was some, like, ancient play.

Sounds good. And you took. And you got naked to rehearse.

In my bra Underwear. And then he said, I have a crush on you.

[Eldis]

Oh, my God.

[Stavros Halkias]

Awesome.

It was crazy. And this is in the building?

In the building. Wow.

Sick there.

So wait, he rehearsed with his dick out?

Yeah. He got naked because he wanted to feel comfortable. And I was like, that sounds right.

Yeah. Oh, boy. I love acting. Whatever. Thanks for the craft. I have to look at your dick. That's so funny. Yeah. You know how people who do, like, fucking wicked, they paint themselves green head to toe. Every fucking rehearsal really made sense. His whole cock had to be. He couldn't just be in underwear.

Well, he was like, if I'm gonna do it in front of the class, I want to make sure that I, like, can at least do it in front of one person.

Good thing he was a coward, I guess.

[Eldis]

What?

[Stavros Halkias]

American Academy of Dramatic Arts. It's a two year.

Sounds fucking sounds real. I used to work for a company called American Government Mortgage that the whole thing was calling old people, thinking the government was calling them so that they would refinance. And you kind of went to the acting school version of that? I was very bad at it, by the way. Don't judge me. I never. I never turned a single old person. I was a telemarketer at American Company.

[Eldis]

Do you ever go to acting school?

[Stavros Halkias]

I went to a Sixth grade. The Baltimore School for the Arts, Twigs program.

[Eldis]

Last year.

[Stavros Halkias]

Yeah, last year. Yeah, they. Yeah, they. They. They put you based on ability. So I got. I got into sixth grade. Yeah, I was. That was my. That was honestly the last time. Cuz I. There was. Sixth grade was a big crossroads in my life where I was like, oh, I love acting. I love being like, what? You know, whatever. And then going to that program actually made me be like, ski. And like, I was never around. It was cool because it's like, it was me and like a bunch of girls and like one gay kid. And so I was like, this is awesome, dude. This is me and these, like, you know, these. And then I was like, oh, actresses are out of their minds. Like, even as a little kid, I was like, what the fuck is going on? They scared me. It was like they were committing. They were like. I remember there was one time where this hot girl's like, crawling on the floor in a fucked up way and we have to do all this weird bodywork and I'm like, I don't want to fucking dance and shit. I want to be funny. And I literally, at the same time, I was going for, like, I was auditioning for the school play and that was. That was going to Twigs. And then the school is called Twigs, you know, and then. And then the. And then the school play. I don't remember what it was, but I was. That's when I made the decision where I was like, nah, I'm fucking. I play sports. I actually don't do. I actually don't think acting's cool, but.

That'S the coolest thing you could do is have done that.

Yeah, yeah.

Another thing too.

Right, right, right. Go back.

Oh, I used to do like.

Yeah, I used to do that. And literally I. I auditioned for later on, like when it was time to go to high school, because Baltimore's like, there's two good schools, there's three okay schools. And everything else is like, scary to be at. And so. And one of the goods. And like, one of them was bald. So I try. I got into the Two Good Schools and Baltimore School for the Arts, but I literally didn't go because I toured the school and it was just like, everyone's like, dancing. And I was like, wait. I was like, where's the football team? Like, we obviously don't have a football team. It's the fuck. And I was like, see, I gotta fucking go play sports. Which, you know, I fucking quit those.

[Eldis]

You could have been a dancing bisexual twig.

[Stavros Halkias]

That would have been nice. I know. I wonder if I would have gotten slurped off by any dudes in high school because I wasn't. No girls would f. I wonder if I could have fucked more girls in art school.

I think if you stayed.

Yeah.

For sure.

Just by being straight in art school. Yes. Yeah. Oh, man. I made a mistake.

Sexual things were happening.

You're so right.

Theater camp.

You're so right.

[Eldis]

Sounds like.

[Stavros Halkias]

No.

[Eldis]

I'm gonna compete with jocks.

[Stavros Halkias]

Yeah. Oh, that's why you pop in eldest. You're over there typing all episode, not saying. Then you hear a nice time to slam me. You're six'four you couldn't make the basketball team at your school that just opened.

[Eldis]

I never tried.

[Stavros Halkias]

I had. No, they tried. No, they. That's how he. They tried to get him. And that's how bad he was. He was like, no, please. I know. I'm going to embarrass myself. They begged him to join the basketball team. I know this story. You don't even try and pretend it didn't happen. But. Yeah, no, you're absolutely right. I was like, yeah, I'm not going to try and be the most masculine man at art school. I'm going to try and be the strongest guy on the football team with kids that literally played in the NFL. Like, kids in my school were so jacked and they were crazy. Yeah, they were. So literally. Three of the kids I played football with played in the NFL. And one of them at the time, I won't say his name, but he was awesome. He. He was fully. He was 17 or 18, fully was dating a 29 year old single mother. She would like pick him up and she was hot as.

That's awesome.

Yeah. He's the man. He. He did something really cool in an NFL game. But I won't say because then people will be able to like. I don't want to expose him. And then I don't want, you know, that lady to go to jail. I'll tell you. Yeah. Bleep it out. Well, you won't actually care that much.

[Eldis]

I might want to know you.

[Stavros Halkias]

No, no, he. Which is cool. You don't care about it. See, See what I'm saying? That's why that. Yeah.

Is crazy.

Wow. Sorry. He fucking. I don't know. His friends with Henry Rollins or something. You care about me. I really don't. I don't even know a band. I was like trying to come up with something.

[Eldis]

A guy who's a poet.

[Stavros Halkias]

Yeah. Yeah, exactly. That seems like it's up your alley or something or.

[Eldis]

I dated a football player when I was a freshman in high school.

[Stavros Halkias]

Oh, nice. Oh, wow.

[Eldis]

It was only because I was a part of, like, a group of three girlfriends and I was just the last one left.

[Stavros Halkias]

Sure.

[Eldis]

So he had his boys.

[Stavros Halkias]

Right.

[Eldis]

And then he had his pick, and.

[Stavros Halkias]

It was dodgeball rules. Yeah. You were the last one picked?

[Eldis]

Yeah, he was the first Josh I ever dated, and I ended up dating about two more.

[Stavros Halkias]

Two more. All. All athletes?

[Eldis]

No.

[Stavros Halkias]

You don't say. Is that the last athlete you dated or like, jockey type guy?

[Eldis]

Totally. He was a football player.

[Stavros Halkias]

Nice. How about you? Any football players, Edie?

No. No.

[Eldis]

No athletes whatsoever. Skateboards.

[Stavros Halkias]

Artists.

Skateboarders don't count in high school. It was more like. Yeah, I was in Phantom of the Opera. That kind of like. That changed the trajectory of my entire life because I was Lily and I wish I was Christine. And I feel like. I almost wish that never happened. I was like, oh, I may star.

What do you think you'd be doing? No, no. Phantom of the Opera. Where you at right now if it didn't happen? If the Phantom doesn't happen, you say you don't you wish it hadn't happened?

Maybe a therapist or something.

[Eldis]

I feel that way too. I'm thinking about doing that soon.

[Stavros Halkias]

Yeah, I'm thinking about it now.

Wow. I know some people whose lives aren't going good that actually are recently going into therapy as well. Some's going around. Yeah.

[Eldis]

We'll see what happens with this movie in the two minutes that we're in it.

[Stavros Halkias]

Well, it's already. I mean, obviously, you know, it's November something. We'll put the date in right here.

[Eldis]

Yeah.

[Stavros Halkias]

Or 11th. I don't remember. It's either November 4th or 11th. And by now, you guys, your phones have been ringing off the hook. The prequel starting. They're already. I honestly do think that would be a legit great idea.

Me too.

Ye.

I was thinking that.

[Eldis]

Yeah.

[Stavros Halkias]

Because the. You guys are so. The first cult is so fucking funny. And we just barely, you know. It was fun.

[Eldis]

It was really fun.

[Stavros Halkias]

I'm excited to see the Cold Sore.

Yeah. It didn't.

[Eldis]

Oh, yeah, I forgot.

[Stavros Halkias]

It doesn't come across.

It's one. Another part. We need to work a little bit on effects a little bit. That's right. We didn't have much of a budget on this movie. Yeah, but what are you gonna do?

I sent like, a picture when that was put on to, like, three of my closest girlfriends. And I was like, dude, I'm so upset. Like, I woke up this morning and I had this cold start so bad. All three of them were like, it's not that bad.

I was like, fuck all of you.

Do you think it's really, like, noticeable?

It looks insane.

[Eldis]

It looked really real.

[Stavros Halkias]

It looked gnarly. We just it up somewhere.

[Eldis]

It's better than the balls, that's for sure.

[Stavros Halkias]

Definitely better than the balls, for sure. So what were you. Were you, like, as. How old were you when you did Phantom of the Opera? What age was that?

Sophomore year.

Sophomore year. So before that, what are your main interests? As a kid?

I was into. I did, like, musical theater.

Oh, okay. Wow. Really? Yeah.

[Eldis]

In New York too. Yeah.

[Stavros Halkias]

Oh, you grew up here? Oh, yeah. Wow. That mall must have been a huge source of pride when it came in.

Yeah, it still is. Yeah, it's incredible.

It's a great mall.

[Eldis]

How do you know about the mallity line Lived?

[Stavros Halkias]

Yeah. I don't want to brag, but one time I had buffalo chicken bites with Steve, Ran a Z at the yard house across from Levity Live. So, yeah, was going good for me. You know, we're trying to make it back. We're big yard house guys, me and Eldest.

I love the yard house.

The yard house is not bad. The yard house is not a bad place to grab a bite. Yeah. Give it the. Give it what it deserves. Eldest, we legit might. We legit might go to Levity Live because I want to work on the hour around here, but beautiful. Nyack, New York.

It's gorgeous. It's interesting.

So as a little kid, you were, like, always about.

Yeah, I was like, no, I'm an actor.

That's incredible. Did you put on your own little plays and make everybody watch?

Yeah, yeah. Classic singing.

Nice. Oh, you were a triple threat. Yeah, Yeah, I used to. It's so pathetic now to be. Because nobody wants to think they were destined for podcasting, but I used to. I had, like, one of those, like, you know, the tape recorder things when it had, like, a mic? I legit would kind of do podcasts where my grandfather would send over tapes from Greece, and I would just fucking listen to his shitty old Greek music and be like, oh, this kind of sucks. I'm just gonna talk. I was, like, doing a show. I was doing a show, and then my dad was, like, so pissed because I taped over all the music with me talking. I was like 6 years old, and I was like, okay, we're just gonna clear that up, folks. Here's how I. Here's what I think is the best part of Peter Pan.

You felt moved to share your opinions forever.

Forever. And it's like, wow, we really maybe just were who we were when you're a little Ashkill.

I really think so.

[Eldis]

I wrote in my journal, like when I was like 14, a list of things I wanted to do. And one was be stand up comedian.

[Stavros Halkias]

Wow.

[Eldis]

Meet Conan O'Brien. Be in an IFC movie.

[Stavros Halkias]

IFC.

[Eldis]

Which technically I think maybe just an independent film.

[Stavros Halkias]

Independent film. Yeah.

[Eldis]

I ended up doing most of those.

[Stavros Halkias]

Show bush on Amazon, unpicked up pilot. Make gay guy gag with pussy hair. Yeah. That's like. Even my friend. Me and a good friend of ours are an old roommate. Had a kid recently and I've been around. It's like the first kid that I've. You know, he's like the first one of your actual contemporaries having a kid. Like, it's not like a family, like some older cousin or. It's like, this kid is really like a kid I've been around for as an adult. I'm best friends with his mom. Like, I. I been observing this kid since he was born. It's like, I bet I know what he's going to be like. He's kind of been behaving the same way since he was the second. You could kind of like make a person out. He's kind of been behaving that way. And you're like, oh, wow. People have felt. It's just like we're like this from when we're so little. I'm pumped to see what. What that little guy's up to.

[Eldis]

Yeah. Unless something really bad.

[Stavros Halkias]

Yeah. Which it will.

Something could really shit all about nature versus nurture.

That's tr. Really true. Yeah. Hopefully no hugely traumatic event happens and he's a shell of the. Of his former baby self as a teen. That light in his eyes goes out a little bit.

[Eldis]

What do you think he's gonna be?

[Stavros Halkias]

He's just kind of a. He's a little. He's a bit of a show off already. Like, I'm like, oh, no. And he's literally like. He's. He's like a bit of a nerd in that. When he was a little. When he was super little, he would have those like baby flashcards and he would just be like, apple and like put it down and be like, nerd.

[Eldis]

He's learning.

[Stavros Halkias]

No, he's a fucking dork. He loved it. No, no.

He would fuck like that. They were seeing him know.

And he also, like, you get it too. Yeah. It was Both. Right? He liked learning. And then he saw the. The like. And then he would point it, and then he would do ones that he knew. And he would, like, watch you watch him and be like. And he would smile. So he learned. He would. And then he didn't even wait for you to see him. He would just flip it over and be like, apple. Like, didn't even wait for people to be like, yay, he's a bit of a ham.

[Eldis]

Remember when you, like, learned an adult word or an adult thing like Saddam Hussein or something? And then you, like, you're little, and then your parents are talking and then you go, well, I heard about Saddam. You want to he seem smart.

[Stavros Halkias]

Who taught you about that?

[Eldis]

I just am reading.

[Stavros Halkias]

Yeah. Yeah. Oh, yeah.

[Eldis]

Felt so cool.

[Stavros Halkias]

See, that's part of why I'm like. He is a. Because he just. I'm like, that's 100% what I was like. I was totally, like a precocious little annoying kid who just said things he knew he shouldn't know for attention. And I'm like, I'm just seeing that life unfold for him and I don't want it. I'm like, don't. Don't be this guy, man. You've got. You've got everything going for you.

[Eldis]

What happened to you?

[Stavros Halkias]

Huh?

[Eldis]

What happened.

[Stavros Halkias]

You're looking at it. This is my life. I'm in a golden cage for the rest of my life. And that's the best case scenario. You know what I mean? It could be way worse than this.

[Eldis]

That's real.

[Stavros Halkias]

Yeah. So that's what I'm saying. Get a regular job. Little guy don't want other people's attention.

Does he have siblings?

He's. I think they might want to get. He was the first one. So I think they're thinking about having kids. Another kid, but we'll see. Yeah. Who knows? It is very interesting just to watch. And then you just think back at, like, you're like, well, there's just no. And then you also look at a kid. You're like, damn, dude, life is horrible. Like, you're gonna, like, you're gonna have a bad time. And you're one of the luckiest. You're born in America in the 2000s. Your parents are, you know, they're not rich, but they're well off. And like, even for you, life is going to be so bad.

Wait until you learn just what it's really like. It's crazy. I still feel like I'm learning.

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There's only like four things you can.

Master or like, I think you're right.

I don't think you can do it all.

I think you're right. And the rest you have to just not completely up and be like, well.

I'm good at this.

[Eldis]

So yeah.

[Stavros Halkias]

And I chose standup comedy, stand up and podcasting. Is two of my four things. None of that is like, you know.

[Eldis]

You know, I think what's worse though, is when someone's just like went to school for eight years and is just only knows how to be a doctor and that's all they know how to be.

[Stavros Halkias]

Not even doctor. Like something like an academic.

[Eldis]

You can't talk to them.

[Stavros Halkias]

I know. You're wrong. Right? Yeah. You're so right about that.

[Eldis]

You're reading Port Noise Complaint.

[Stavros Halkias]

He's literally like my red little. That's academia 32.

Jacking off.

Something like that for the first time. Okay.

Oh, yeah.

[Eldis]

I do feel like intellectual.

[Stavros Halkias]

Like a book without pictures in it. Is that what you mean?

Yeah.

Yeah. I start. I read. I read just like detective. I just read like easy shit. Just like a mystery novel. Yeah, exactly. And it's like, oh, I wonder if it's one of the five characters from the beginning. I wonder which one it's gonna be. You know, it's probably the one. It seems like it is in chapter two. It's. That's probably definitely the one. And then it's like, what? He's innocent. Oh, man. And then I go to sleep. I literally read because I. It helps me go to sleep because I don't want to read because it's like, I'd rather do anything.

Yeah, the second you start doing it.

Exactly.

[Eldis]

Yeah.

[Stavros Halkias]

Yeah, you were so. But I was a big reader as a little kid. I don't know. But that was just me being a fucking. A dork that wanted, like, approval from parents, I guess. Were you guys.

[Eldis]

You're smart.

[Stavros Halkias]

I'm not that smart. No, come on, guys, stop. Smart guys. I'm not.

You're literally smart.

No, for real.

You're smart in the good way. People. You know how to talk to people.

Wait a second. What? It's got qualifications on it. Now, I thought I was just smart or. You got what? What are we working with grade wise? Bad. Bad grades. Bad grades. Yeah.

[Eldis]

I say good grades, good grades.

[Stavros Halkias]

But I was cheating. The entire like was so easy. I was like, how is anyone not doing well? Yeah, I got twos on all the aps, though.

Oh, interesting.

[Eldis]

I wasn't even with aps.

[Stavros Halkias]

No AP First. They wouldn't let you in?

[Eldis]

No.

[Stavros Halkias]

Damn, dude.

[Eldis]

Let me.

[Stavros Halkias]

Did you go to college?

[Eldis]

I went to art school for a year.

[Stavros Halkias]

Okay.

I have an associate's degree in acting. Did you go to college?

Holy. I went to college and I dropped. I dropped out with six credits left. And I just needed my language credits, but I was like, they Let me. I've told the story before on the pod. They let me walk because they're like, well, obviously you're gonna get your language credits. Like you have. I had, like. I graduated with honors. I got a 3.9Gpa or some shit. And I just didn't do it because I was like, well, I was doing this so my mom would get a picture of me, like, shaking hands with the president with a little cap. That's the whole reason I went to college. So now that I have that, I'm not going to fucking summer school. And then I was like. And then I never. And I just lied about having a degree, and I was a paralegal for a couple years, and they didn't really check, and.

[Eldis]

Damn, that's crazy.

[Stavros Halkias]

And then I just, like, you know, did comedy and never had to fucking do it, which I like. It's. It's a nice.

[Eldis]

Oh, you like doing comedy?

[Stavros Halkias]

No, I like not having my degree. It feels. It feels cool to be like, I could have had it, but. But I just didn't want to. I could have just taken a Spanish one class or. What I was actually planning on doing was take a test because I could have passed it because I speak Greek. Like, I'm fluent in a different language. And I just. I went on the website to schedule it, and it wasn't like a time that worked. And I was like.

[Eldis]

I was kind of like that, too. I feel like I was smart, but I was always told that I wasn't working hard enough. It's like, if I put any sort of effort into it, then I could have been really good.

[Stavros Halkias]

But what for what school? Who cares?

[Eldis]

Being good at school.

[Stavros Halkias]

Yeah.

I'm still thinking about your point to me saying I had bad grades.

Yeah. I just knew.

[Eldis]

What's wrong with that?

[Stavros Halkias]

Well, you got two in ap. You did get to involve ap, so I feel like I'm onto something, world.

I'm gonna be getting a two.

Yeah, no. No worries. I just got fours and fives on all my shit, but it's all good.

I got a four in psychology.

Oh, that again. Makes sense.

So I just care about people.

I just felt like you wouldn't care. I guess my point was I would have guessed you wouldn't give that much of a About school that your grades would have been.

But somehow I was doing pretty smart.

Okay.

I think it was easy.

It probably was easy. Yeah.

[Eldis]

Challenging. No, it wasn't challenging.

[Stavros Halkias]

Rewording people's.

Sure.

[Eldis]

Socially. So much energy. Yeah.

[Stavros Halkias]

I just felt like you would have been you know, practicing singing or whatever the.

And I was.

You would. What was your first Was. That was fandom. The first, like, breakout where you were like, hell, yeah.

Well, freshman year we did Titanic the musical, and I got like, a kind of big role, and that's, like, not normal for freshman, so that was awesome.

[Eldis]

Here comes the iceberg.

[Stavros Halkias]

Here comes the iceberg. Hey, is anybody having sex in that car over there?

[Eldis]

Looks like steam.

[Stavros Halkias]

They're having sex in the car. Where's Billy Zane? You're getting cucked, my friend. Thank you. We were in a musical in elementary school.

[Eldis]

Clowns.

[Stavros Halkias]

The Cl. Yeah. Clowns. Yeah.

[Eldis]

No, that was the place. Or was it a music?

[Stavros Halkias]

Oh, it was a musical. Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. I was the big wheel. Who would you play?

[Eldis]

Ralph the Clown.

[Stavros Halkias]

Ralph the Clown? Yeah.

And you were a Wheel.

I was the big wheel. We need the roundest child in the school.

[Eldis]

You're the wheel who fits into this.

[Stavros Halkias]

Oh, believe me, I was pretty pissed off about it.

I remember you're not the perfect person for the wheel.

Ah, but we do need someone for the fat pig too. He really would be great at either one of these.

They wrote that part.

They're like, good news. You got two parts for the first time ever. Yeah, I was pissed because it was like he was. Now look, the big Wheel. I know it's kind of disrespectful, but as long as I can remember, if I'm correct, he was sort of a Wizard of Oz character who was behind, like, he was a wise man behind something. At least this is what our gay teacher who put on elaborate musicals in elementary school. And he would also. A lot of our field trips every year, he would just make everybody go see his plays, which is kind of awesome. I respect him for that. Who the fuck is calling me? Sorry. He. Anyway, remember that? We had to. We had to go. Who is it?

Are you okay?

Yeah, I'm fine. No, no, I don't want to take it. Did he just really ruined my momentum with about this.

Remember how he was a wise old wheel and a gay guy told you that?

Yeah. I guess in hindsight I'm just remembering what my teacher said to just sort of quell me as a child. And I've taken it at face value literally my entire life. And I'm just now realizing, like, oh, no, he was just outsmarting a nine year old like a fucking annoying. I was annoying and I. I would have a tantrum if I didn't feel important. And it fully worked on me. And Elvis got the Good part of Ralph the clown. And I was behind a sheet where they couldn't see how. They couldn't see how grotesque I was.

[Eldis]

I probably just got Ralph because I was tall.

[Stavros Halkias]

Yeah, exactly. Another advantage for the tall man. Yeah. That was an important lesson to learn early on, I suppose.

[Eldis]

I had to play a gay guy in the play in high school.

[Stavros Halkias]

Wow, look at that.

[Eldis]

Gay guy.

[Stavros Halkias]

And what?

[Eldis]

It was a. It was a play called Red Scare on Sunset by this gay playwright.

[Stavros Halkias]

Nice.

[Eldis]

And I had to play a closeted gay guy who kills himself at the end.

[Stavros Halkias]

Wait, how old were you?

[Eldis]

16? 17.

[Stavros Halkias]

Wow, that's kind of heavy.

[Eldis]

Be like camp. It was a campy sort of comedy.

[Stavros Halkias]

A comedy where a gay guy kills himself. Like, this is the good old days.

[Eldis]

See you later. And I, like, did the voice and the.

[Stavros Halkias]

Kinda like, I'm gonna kill myself.

Oh, my God, I'm gonna kill myself.

[Eldis]

Truly. I think I said something like that. It was in the play.

[Stavros Halkias]

It was in the play.

[Eldis]

I remember a gay couple in the audience after the show were, like, glaring at me.

[Stavros Halkias]

Glaring.

[Eldis]

Yeah.

[Stavros Halkias]

What's up?

Like, it's your fault.

Okay, hold on one second.

[Eldis]

Something's going on.

[Stavros Halkias]

Okay. And we're back. Huh? Okay. The. What did I. You just.

[Eldis]

You jumped in the second I, like, hit it.

[Stavros Halkias]

Yeah. That's when it starts recording. Leave all this in.

[Eldis]

All right. The first word or two you said might be cut off, making your job easier.

[Stavros Halkias]

You elders, I will give you credit. We've been recording. We've been doing this podcast for two years, and this is the first time you've done that. I would have thought this would have happened every, like, fourth episode.

[Eldis]

The true fans know this is the second time it's happened. It happened with Shane Smith one time.

[Stavros Halkias]

Oh. And we addressed it.

[Eldis]

We just stopped recording and started recording again.

[Stavros Halkias]

Okay, cool, man. Well, that's awesome. That's good. Point of clarification. I was giving you props, but thank you for telling me. You didn't deserve them. We were. Claire was telling a story about how she played you in a school play. I think we were in a. We. We found that after the mics went off, it was. You were playing a gay guy because it was an all girls school.

[Eldis]

Yes.

[Stavros Halkias]

That's. And they were like, the same way I was the wheel. They're like, who's the gay guy in this all girl school? What was. What was your hair looking like back then?

[Eldis]

I had it pulled back really tight and, like, gelled.

[Stavros Halkias]

Oh, nice. Hell, yeah.

[Eldis]

But I. Long hair like you.

[Stavros Halkias]

When was the first buzz cut of your life.

[Eldis]

When I was 18.

[Stavros Halkias]

Okay, cool.

[Eldis]

I just wanted to get rid of it.

[Stavros Halkias]

You've been a short hair. A short hair gal.

[Eldis]

Short hair Claire.

[Stavros Halkias]

Short hair Claire. It does look good.

[Eldis]

I. You know why I do it?

[Stavros Halkias]

Why?

[Eldis]

Because I'm so OCD that the less I have to think about including having hair, the better my life is.

[Stavros Halkias]

I feel that way about long hair. I'm like, really?

[Eldis]

You just let it go?

[Stavros Halkias]

There's nothing to do with it. Yeah, yeah, yeah. I miss. I miss the low maintenance of have. Of being bald. But ever since I've grown my hair out, it's all been. It's been tough, you know, getting the right. Getting the right oils and gels. No, no, no. For what.

[Eldis]

What they have h. What are you talking about?

[Stavros Halkias]

Who would need. I mean, I. What kind of. I don't need that. I got.

[Eldis]

I got.

[Stavros Halkias]

I got a nice head of hair.

The natural is confidence than hot.

I appreciate that.

That's awesome.

Yeah, I. I don't act like if I got plugs, I would get beard plugs, not hair plugs. I would want like a big thick ass beard. Cuz I have rosy ass cheeks. But no, nothing is touching. In fact, anyone who. Anyone who does anything is a coward. I feel superior. I feel superior to everyone with any kind of hair thing going on.

[Eldis]

It's awesome.

[Stavros Halkias]

It is. No. Well, people are just talking about getting plugs in a weird way where it's kind of become tits for men.

It's like bleeding when they get it.

[Eldis]

Yeah.

[Stavros Halkias]

They'll do like videos on it. It'll be like, come with me as I go to Turkey. And it's like, come on.

Yeah.

[Eldis]

Because it's.

[Stavros Halkias]

This is pathetic. It's cheaper in Turkey. They're really good at it. And it's like they have. Obviously they have good plugs. I mean, Mateo's talked about it. I think that's the way in is. Gay guys will talk about it because it's a surge. It's a plastic surgery. So gay guys are down to talk about getting those. And then that's kind of like a way in for everyone. I've had friends like Dan Soders talked about it on this pod. He got. He got plugged up.

And those are there for life.

Yeah. And the technology is so good that definitely famous people, people like we wouldn't even know about it. It is good enough. But not me, baby. I'm sticking to it.

[Eldis]

If gay guys weren't afraid of my hair, they could take some.

[Stavros Halkias]

They could have taken some of your. Put your. They would be like, that's too coarse for a man's head. This is too thick. This isn't natural. It would stand out. Like, wait, this looks too luscious.

[Eldis]

You could floss your teeth with it. Is it okay that I'm wearing the same glasses?

[Stavros Halkias]

Yeah, yeah.

I like you.

You got them after me, right?

[Eldis]

I did because I saw you with them and I go, where did you get them?

[Stavros Halkias]

I've had that. Yeah, yeah. Believe that out. We're trying to get a sponsorship. No free ads. Hey, the website. Claire just said, come on, drop a little coin. You could have some of the best advertising ever.

[Eldis]

Many, many, many, absolutely.

[Stavros Halkias]

But yes, they're. They are good glasses. I got these because they're cheap as hell. I got them in college and I got other glasses and I got these almost as a joke and then I put them on people like, those are good.

[Eldis]

Yeah, they're cool.

[Stavros Halkias]

And I've had these glasses since. Yeah, Damn. I've been wearing these glasses. This is when you're like, damn, I'm gonna die soon. I've worn these glasses for 16 years. Just 15, 14 years. Something like that.

[Eldis]

That's crazy.

[Stavros Halkias]

It's insane, right? Right. They used to be 695.

[Eldis]

Now they're like third 20.

[Stavros Halkias]

Yeah, something like that. Yeah. Biden inflation. He's getting us. Thank God he's on the way out. RFK Jr. Coming. Write him in. I mean it's already happened. He's already press. Let's start a cult to swept the nation. Robert Kennedy as is the first ever write in president winner and everything may.

[Eldis]

Become president by tonight.

[Stavros Halkias]

By tonight. Yeah. You might be checking the. This would be an awesome. An awesome election in 2024.

[Eldis]

Florida's looking close.

[Stavros Halkias]

Lord is looking close. I think it's actually the week after.

[Eldis]

Oh. So everything could be really up right now.

[Stavros Halkias]

Oh, everything. That's so funny.

It probably is.

[Eldis]

Yeah.

[Stavros Halkias]

In ways we can't even imagine.

Well, except that we are in a hit indie comedy that is sweeping the nation. That's all. I think the biggest news in early November, which it is now, by the way, as we all know will be. Let's start a cult. It's a great time to launch a movie. In hindsight, no one's thinking of anything but entertainment, you know.

Yeah.

[Eldis]

You know, you want the escapism.

[Stavros Halkias]

Yep.

[Eldis]

Maybe they'll come. They'll come, crawl into the theater.

[Stavros Halkias]

Either way, whoever wins, it'll be good. Yes, they will do something good for the world.

[Eldis]

We can all agree to all the people who have passed away in the.

[Stavros Halkias]

Past already since this has been recorded, the amount of genocides that have happened that we're powerless to stop. We're sorry about that.

[Eldis]

I'm talking about it on American soil.

[Stavros Halkias]

Yeah. Oh, yeah. I was kind of thinking foreign policy, but yeah.

[Eldis]

We have nothing to do with that Civil war.

[Stavros Halkias]

Okay, okay. Okay. Well, either way, that's good. Keep us because it's not. We're not opening international. So keep it national. Let's start a cult. Although maybe, you know, you might be able to get it in select English speaking countries. We'll see. You know what? Don't take me up on that. Check if you're in Europe or, you know, wherever the out the chabs in London would love. The chs will love it.

[Eldis]

Joggers.

[Stavros Halkias]

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[Eldis]

I love pretty litter. You know, you need pretty litter for a pretty kitty and so true.

[Stavros Halkias]

This is so well put.

[Eldis]

This stuff is awesome. They sent it right to my door. It's like odor free. Doesn't clump. I mean, you know, she's a picky girl. My. My little Sui's a princess. You know that stuff.

[Stavros Halkias]

She's very. We used to live together. She was some might say a not me. Others might.

[Eldis]

She's a very particular girl, but she loves this stuff. No complaints.

[Stavros Halkias]

And I like that it changes color to indicate early signs of illness in your cat. Luckily, we haven't seen any of that for your for Sua. Haven't seen that for my brother's cats either. Then like elder says, they ship right to your door. You never have to run out. It's incredible. Pretty litter is amazing. You have to try it. Go to prettylitter.comstavi to save 20% on your first order and get a free cat toy. That's pretty litter.comstavi to save 20 percent on your first order and get a free cat toy. Pretty Litter.comstavi Terms and conditions apply. C Site for details. All right, well, look, that's enough current events, obviously. I think it's time. I think it's time for us to help the people out.

[Eldis]

You know, I'd like to apologize for my comments if they're striking to true accord.

[Stavros Halkias]

Yeah, hopefully there hasn't been any political violence today.

I liked what you said.

Hit us with some nice eldest.

[Caller 1]

Hey, stop. Hey, guest. Hey, eldest. Longtime listener, first time caller. I'm hoping to get your help. So I'm calling about my brother because he dated this girl that was a train wreck. For a few years she was just gross. She would post like low budget thirst traps to Instagram. She's a singer in this really cringey punk band and she has a special needs kid that she like pushed off on my brother all the time. Then around the new year, she got caught cheating on him. Like literally, she was having sex with guys in the basement of a box. Just gross. So thankfully they were going to break up because we had, you know, just really never liked her, but supported him, you know, and put up with her for a couple of years. And he's in his late 30s, so we're like, thank God you broke up now before you had a kid with her or, you know, anything like that. He keeps showing up to our family events with her kid months and months later. So even this past weekend, he was babysitting her daughter when she was at a county fair with her friend and her friend's kid.

[Stavros Halkias]

Her friends kid. What the fuck? She went to a kid activity. Hey, I'm going to go to the bumper cars. No way my child's going to enjoy this. Can you bring her to your fucking family potluck? All right, let's finish this. That's fucking crazy.

[Caller 1]

When she was at a county fair with her friend and her friend's kid, but she just didn't want to deal with her own kid. I hoping for your advice and guest advice and eldest advice. Anyone that can help me figure out how to make him finally stand up for himself and stop playing nanny so that he can move on with his life or if I just need to chill out and act like it's normal. What do you think?

[Stavros Halkias]

Wow, that's rough stuff.

[Eldis]

God damn.

[Stavros Halkias]

Yeah. Cuz two things are true here. This woman is one of a huge piece of like to pawn off your own. Like it's. She's clearly a bad person. You know, just from the limited information we have seems that way.

Does he have love for this kid?

Well, that's what I was going to Say there's two. Like, one thing can be true. Her mom's a dumb bitch. And the other thing is this is a kid who doesn't clearly doesn't have stability in her life. Doesn't have any. Like, if her mom wants to go to the fair with someone else's kid. And your brother sounds like absolutely simp of the year with no question, like a Mount Rushmore level simp. However, he. That means he's got the kind of heart that can care for somebody else's biological kids kid. Like, he clearly cares for this kid and the kid clearly needs someone. And look, you're. You're. What you want to happen is never going to happen. Your brother is not going to stand up for himself fully. You don't know though, is he. Do you consider looking after a kid he cares about not standing up for himself? Is he still dating this woman? Like, is he. Is this affecting him? Dating? Like, would you be happy if he had a different girlfriend but still kept this, you know, kept a relationship? Granted, that's very difficult. Right. That'd be so weird to be like, oh, I can't hang out. I have to look after my ex girlfriend's kid.

But I feel like sometimes it would. Maybe that's an attractive quality. Oh, you really care about that.

Yeah, that's true.

[Eldis]

It's like a big brother situation.

[Stavros Halkias]

Yeah. Yeah.

[Eldis]

Is that what they're called?

[Stavros Halkias]

Big bro? Yeah, Like a mentorship thing. Although. Yeah. But I also think it is. Is that that requires drawing some really specific boundaries. Yes.

And like, it's going to be difficult to find the right girl.

It's going to be difficult to find the right girl. It's going to be difficult for the guy. For her brother too. Right. Because what if you do? And then that also just allows this. This woman to continue to manipulate him in weird ways. Just keeping her around is really a big issue.

I think she needs to have a conversation with her brother about all of this, if she hasn't already.

Yeah, I mean, she probably has. This is the cut.

[Eldis]

It seems like the woman is out of the picture completely.

[Stavros Halkias]

Well, that's the thing. It's like, you're almost better off adopting this girl and being like, this is my adopted. This is my daughter. And like, not deal. Like, which if Your brother's late 30s ain't going good for him, is he gonna start a. Like, it's like he might want to have a family and this might be. This kid might be like the closest thing he's felt to that. This is just way More complicated. No, it's way more complicated than break up with some, some, you know, shitty woman that was cheating on you. Right?

Like this relationship who takes low budget thoughty pictures.

Her greatest. Her greatest crimes being bad at posting.

[Eldis]

I wonder if he's doing it partly as a way to like, just hang around this girl, this woman's life, like, you know, that's just laying the cut. She'll come to her senses and realize, right, we're meant to be or something.

[Stavros Halkias]

She'll get double stuffed in a basement a couple more times, get that out of her system. She'll see me.

[Eldis]

Well, if he's, if he's hanging out with the kid who she doesn't like.

[Stavros Halkias]

Right.

[Eldis]

You know?

[Stavros Halkias]

Yeah.

Where does it say she doesn't like the kid? Kid.

[Eldis]

She's letting her.

[Stavros Halkias]

She went to the fair with someone else's house.

Well, her kid is special needs. Maybe. It would have been really difficult.

Sure. It would have been harder. But that's so shitty for a mom if, if your own mother's like, ah, I'm going to Disney World, but I don't want to push you up a ramp so you can chill.

Like, it's like, I think, go with my ex. Yeah, yeah. What is it? His bootstraps?

Yeah, yeah. Up by his own bootstraps.

Get out of that.

And I think that's a good point. Elders, this is what's hard about this question. Is the. The true solution is you have to look into your brother's soul for real? And is this actually a pure, almost like really nice thing that's happening here? Is this a silver lining in a horrific relationship that his relationship to. To this kid? If that's true, then yeah, that even. And he's willing to literally make sacrifices for somebody who is not as biological kid as even like the biological kid of somebody who treated him poorly. If that's the level of selfless he's at, that's one thing that's very difficult. I tend to be a little, you know, skeptical of that level of like being a saint.

It doesn't sound like.

It doesn't sound real. Right.

She's like pissed at him.

But like his. But then also his sister is not a reasonable, like, narrator here. Right? Like, because. Because this. I think there is a small percentage that's true. And his sister would never accept that. To his sister looking after this kid is his ex making him do stuff. Right. She can't fathom that. Like, he actually might want to do this because he is, you know, that kind of, you know, to his sister, loser to him, nice guy. You know what I mean? Now, if that's true, that's one thing. But if there's even a hint of what Eldis is saying, if there's even a hint of this, will. This will help me get back in with this girl's mom. He owes it to himself and the kid. Because if he's using the kid as a pawn in a really shitty game, he's, he's, he's kind of close to being as shitty as her in a weird way. Way. So it's just like the quicker your brother is honest with himself and maybe you have to go in there and you can, you need to go in there accepting that he might actually care about this kid more than he's, you know, like, than himself. Even if you have that on the table and you really think he's doing that, then, then you got to take steps to make this maybe a permanent thing or have him in this girl's life. But if not, he's got to get out of here as soon as possible. And he seems like a reasonable person. Appeal to, like, the kid, be like, look, you don't. If you're trying to be with her mom, you got to get the fuck out of there. And that's hard, though. That's a hard. Because this is a really fucked up, inter intertwined situation. And he's, you know, late 30s, he's probably, you know, his, his biological clock might be ticking here, and it might. And it might actually have like, you know, know, who knows? But that's, that's what I would say is unless he is like a, you know, top level simp, he's got to get out of there immediately. That's tough. That's brutal.

Good luck.

Good luck to that. Yeah, good luck to that kid.

[Caller 2]

Elders.

[Caller 3]

Hey. Guests or guests?

[Stavros Halkias]

Thank you.

[Caller 3]

My lap call went on too long, so I'll keep it pretty brief. I was pretty overweight growing up affected my body image issues anyway, so I didn't start getting laid until my early 20s. Kind of like the golden age of Tinder.

[Stavros Halkias]

But historians still talk about red pill.

[Caller 3]

To get laid, so a lot of just being who I wasn't and peacocking, you know, I guess it worked because I just got laid a lot, but. But it was really just trying to fill a hole.

[Caller 2]

I was trying to fill a void.

[Caller 3]

I was trying to fill a void. And now that I'm in my early 30s, you know, I'm going back to school. I'm doing my bachelor's in psychology. I see all these beautiful women, but that red pill bullshit is just not who I am. It's kind of the only way that I learned to, like, meet women.

[Stavros Halkias]

Hold on, pause. The only way you learn how to meet women is by what is red?

Like, what does that mean?

It's kind of like, like, negging. Negging Andrew Tate level. Like, not valuing women, treating them badly, manipulating them, manipulation, love bombing.

I guess I should go with him.

Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. Exactly, exactly.

[Eldis]

If he's talking about the golden age of Tinder, I, we call it, like, red pill now. But I feel like he's probably talking about, like, more pickup artistry, for sure.

[Stavros Halkias]

But it's also like, okay, what it. I, I, I really think all that really boils down to is, like, pretending there's a, like, system so that you just power through with numbers. Like, that era in particular was just, like, a guy being kind of shitty to so many women that, like, if you do it to a hundred, four of them might you. You know what I mean? Like, that's kind of my guess here. I don't know. Let's. Let's finish up his thing. It's just so funny to be like, it's the only way I know how to meet women. It's like, what, being rude to them? You can't just be like, hi, I'm Eric.

Not who I am.

That's not who I am. But I have these incredible powers to make these want to me, but I don't want to use them. I know. I would love to know what he's like, keeping at bay. He's like, ah, I got a caller of dumb. All right.

Okay.

[Caller 3]

I find it really hard to meet people organically and be myself and feel confident, because when I'm on campus, I just kind of feel old and gross, and it's just kind of tough. So I don't use dating apps anymore because I feel like they're kind of bullshit. But, you know, I was just hoping you can help me out with some confidence issues I'm having and kind of being more authentic with meeting people and, and, yeah, that's it. Thanks so much.

[Stavros Halkias]

Be true to yourself.

Yeah, I know. I mean, look, the biggest issue here is you're going, you're in your 30s, getting a psychology degree. Is somebody paying for it? What the fuck? That's a waste of time and money. What are you doing?

[Eldis]

I mean, yeah, just learn psychology on YouTube like you did. How to pick up women.

[Stavros Halkias]

Yeah.

And you're going in psychology, and this is what you're asking, yeah, power, like just supply. Apply that to yourself.

It's also very interesting to even preface this with the Red Bull Red Bill stuff because it's completely useless information. It's just like he feels down on himself and he just has to let us know. Like I, I used to get pussy, by the way. Like, like now I don't believe in myself and I'm 30, but I used to fuck and so that doesn't matter. Like you just have to exactly be true to yourself. He's talking about. I just feel old and gross. It's like, well, well, you're on campus. You shouldn't be trying to like date freshmen in college. Like, yeah, what the. These are not. You shouldn't be dating. You're in psych. Like that's. You just like, shouldn't. That's not who you're gonna date. The people in your Psych 101 classes, maybe date some grad students or some. But they won't respect you intellectually. So I don't really know what this.

[Eldis]

Guy'S life though, because if he's good at psychology, he's not number one. Well, he used the red pill tactics in such a way that he got his body count was the charge and now he wants to be a psychologist and sort of use that on strangers.

[Stavros Halkias]

Yeah, I think he. Yeah. What does he want to even do with psychology? What the. Why are you back in school for this?

I also think if you're feeling gross and old, then that is what you're putting out and that's why people are treating you maybe that way. And then you feel like.

He also said body image stuff. Sorry to cut you off. No, you go ahead, finish, finish your thought. Cuz I. What you were saying, like, that's why.

You feel like you need to overcompensate with being an. Like, it's like incel vibes to me.

Yes, yes.

Like, well, I feel disgusting. And like the only way I know how is my.

[Eldis]

The bad way.

[Stavros Halkias]

But he. Did he even see we're making fun of him for this? But he never even was like, I'm going to. To go back to the old me. You know what I mean? He just said it. So it's like basically I don't even understand why he told us that. Because like, if he's just like, here's what this, here's what this call boils down to. I used to get 10 years ago and, and I used to be fat and maybe he's put on a couple lbs since when he was in his twenties and working out all the time. And like the, it's like we don't need to know about red pill stuff. Stuff. It's just, it boils down to I just feel old. And especially like imagine how old you'd feel. I would feel 100 years old if I had to be around freshmen. They're like, they're kids.

Bachelors.

His bachelors brother. What's the plan? Let's talk about that. But in, just in general. Yeah, like, I think you're right. You're kind of pretty. If that's how you feel, that's how you're projecting. But it's also like, like it's like you're not somewhere you should be worried about your sexual, like you know, your worth. Like you shouldn't be like, none of these children I'm in school with want to me. You know what I mean?

[Eldis]

Like, this is commendable for wanting to feel better about himself before he sort of opens himself up.

[Stavros Halkias]

I agree, I agree.

[Eldis]

21 year old girls.

[Stavros Halkias]

And so yeah, he's like, how do I feel better about myself to get 20 or to buy some 20 year olds some twisted tea and then get them back to my place? Dude, they should pay. Yeah, that was too good. That was for free. Twisted tea. Actually they don't want, they probably don't want to be associated with. Do not buy anyone twisted tea. Underage. But yeah, I, so, so I guess after we waited, he just gave us so many red herrings. What it really boils down to number one, don't worry about campus. You're there to go to fucking school. You know what I mean? Like, it's like, just go to school. That's not where you're going to meet anybody. And then generally I would just say, you know, it's the same, it's the same kind of advice we give to everyone, which is like, you're clearly, you know, I'm shitting on you for being a psych major, but you're, you hopefully have some plan, right? You're there for, to improve yourself, to get, maybe to help you get a job, whatever. And anytime you're executing some kind of plan that feels good, just do what you're doing well. And then if you want to do some personal stuff, like, you know, we talk about going to the gym. We're a very, we're a very body positive podcast here. But, but it feels good to go to the gym even if you're not looking that much better, just to feel stronger, you feel healthier. All this Kind of stuff.

You're in your body.

You're in your body. Absolutely. All that kind of stuff. So it's obviously you. And you also, by the way, how about you go surround yourself with people your age where you won't feel old and gross? Yeah, you probably, you know what I mean, like, be around 30 year olds. You're 30, dude. Don't be like, oh, damn it. I'm, you know, I'm playing. I'm trying to play pickup basketball with 17 year olds and they're way more athletic than me. It's like, yeah, yeah, it's over. You're fucking. The reaper comes for us all. So, yeah, get out of there. Don't feel bad about yourself. Definitely go to. Yeah, go do some. That. Yeah, start. Start. Make friends with the divorce attorney. Let him know. Let him fucking send you the promising prospects that way because that's where. That's where you should be looking for your next girlfriend there. Not@psych102. I think that's pretty much it, though. Dude, don't. It's interesting to talk about your red pill days. Yeah, that's fine. We all acted weird when we're 20, you know what I mean? We all did weird when we were 20 that we're not proud of. So, yeah, keep it pushing and stay off the apps.

I think that's a good.

Yeah. Yeah. Try and meet people like through friends or something or. Or just start feeling better about yourself and then, you know, venture out into. Into dating. Easy as that. Yeah.

Feel good about yourself.

Feel good about yourself and then it will come. Yeah. Do you dress like shit? Like, just make little improvements. Make little improvements around the edges.

[Eldis]

I also feel like the red pill shit. It's like, he's like, oh, I could only when I was using red pill stuff. But if you like, boil it down, that is just like, don't be afraid to speak to women.

[Stavros Halkias]

Yeah.

[Eldis]

It's like, you know, just apply that now.

[Stavros Halkias]

Right.

[Eldis]

And don't feel like you need to, like, neg chicks or something when you talk with them to, like, trick their psychology into, like, you. It's like, just talk to women and you will, like, you know, just eventually.

[Stavros Halkias]

Yeah. Yeah. Get to know them and be a good guy and that's it. Yeah, don't go, go. Don't go to the dark side of nagging. Oh, you hear that? That. We just made another sale thanks to Shopify baby. Oh, we love Shopify here at Stavi Baby Enterprises. They are what we use for our E Commerce. And we're making A lot of sales. Thanks to them. It's merch season around here. It's 2025 calendar. We by the time you're listening to this or watching this, they might already be out and being ready to be sold. Those are getting. Because of Shopify, those are going out smooth. We used to have a real bullshit system here. Barely kept any records, maybe even didn't pay our taxes. Who knows? But thanks to Shopify, we're law abiding citizens and we're making a ton of cash. And if you have an e commerce business, I'm gonna need you to sign up with Shopify. Okay. They're incredible. It's a very professional setup. The customer retention is really good. All the stats that you get back from who's buying, when are they buying, what are they getting. Awesome stuff has helped us very, very immensely. So upgrade your business and get the same checkout we use with Shopify. Sign up for your $1 per month trial period at shopify.comstavi all lowercase go to shopify.comstavi to upgrade your selling today. Shopify.com Davi.

[Caller 2]

Hi, Savi baby. Hi, Elvis. Hello, dad. I'm calling in for the usual relationship advice. For starters, I'm 27. My boyfriend is 39. So there's a name staff. And we've been together for about a year. I see him about.

[Caller 1]

I see him every weekend.

[Caller 2]

We live an hour apart. But like the last month, he just has not been wanting to have sex. And I get it. Kind of like he's said it like it's come up before. He's just like older. Feels the cancer time.

[Stavros Halkias]

Sure.

[Caller 2]

He's kind of anti. Like dick pills.

[Stavros Halkias]

What? This man is anti science. Oh, I guess he doesn't drink pasteurized milk either. I guess he's doesn't believe in antibacterial cereal soap. Anyway, go ahead.

[Caller 2]

Eldest acid is usually sick and then he gets hard and then he's an oh.

[Stavros Halkias]

It's an interesting methodology.

[Caller 2]

He just hasn't been in the mood lately. And I don't know how to like. I mean, I've like, approached it, but I don't always want to be the one that's approaching first. Like, he's like, you can just grab it if you want to have sex.

[Stavros Halkias]

And I'm like, that's so romantic. Just yank my. Like it's a lawnmower chain and start it anyways.

[Caller 2]

He also has a history of. In the past, he's watched Cam Girls and I don't know if maybe that's what's going on. If maybe he's just watching a bunch of that and then I get there and he doesn't want to fuck a hot 26 year old in the bed. 27.

[Stavros Halkias]

Interesting.

[Caller 2]

I don't know. I don't know what to do. I don't know if I'm overthinking it. I'm obviously going to confront him and talk him about it.

[Stavros Halkias]

Good.

[Caller 2]

Bottom line, do you think that there is a limit? I don't want to shame. I don't want to keep shame. But it's kind of an issue for me if he's spending money there.

[Stavros Halkias]

Yeah.

[Caller 2]

And if he's having. If he's watching it enough that he doesn't want to have sex with me the four times a month. I guess that's crazy. I regress. Love you guys. Love you Tod.

[Stavros Halkias]

Thank.

[Caller 2]

Thanks.

[Stavros Halkias]

It's insane to be in one of those relationships where you only see each other once a week and not. Yeah, every time you see each other.

Crazy. It's like leaving after not having sex.

Yeah, that's. That's not that. That hour drive home was a tough one.

[Eldis]

This is some good red pill psychology right here. Get in her mind, make her dependent on you and deny her sex the last dollar.

Is that it psychologically though? Is that a thing that can happen? I'm sure it is, but obviously. But like where you're just jerking off too much and then when something real.

[Stavros Halkias]

Is I think so in front of.

[Eldis]

You, you just don't know how to deal with it.

[Stavros Halkias]

I don't know. I think what not, not how. I don't know how to deal with. But it's like they've been dating a while. Any kind of like novelty is gone. This guy has taken her for granted. He. He's maybe he also like they live. They don't see each other, you know, they see each other once a week if they live far apart. This also to me has a little bit of like. Yeah, it's either to me it's either he really doesn't like he's just settled into almost like being in like married essentially. Like she's basically a sitcom husband complaining that his. Her wife doesn't him, you know, either he settled into that or yes, he's either beating off too much or has some weird or like even cheating. Although I guess sometimes cheaters overdo it and like try and get you off the scent by you more so I think it's very possible that like this guy's just like the novelty's worn off. He they don't have. He said. She says he's older. Did she say how much older? Older.

[Eldis]

She's 27. He's 39.

[Stavros Halkias]

39.

[Eldis]

I feel like that's kind of the time when your dick starts getting weird though, right?

[Stavros Halkias]

Yeah, it could.

He needs to take pills too.

Yeah. What is he. What is he talking about? Yeah, I mean, please, who do we got now? We. We need. Listen, we had a couple sponsors dabble. Bleep that out. Elvis, bleep all calls. But yeah, we really need that. We need a presenting sponsor. That's a erectile dysfunction medicine. There's. I'm the biggest free agent in the game, guys. What are you doing? You're losing money here. But yeah, there is. I. Okay, here's something that a hot 27 year old who's dating somebody who's 13 years older doesn't really want to hear. It's like he probably doesn't just value you that much is the other thing. Like, to him, it's like a. It's like if he. You're. She's going to him every time. He's not going there. She's visiting and not getting dicked down. Down. He. It's probably a little bit of like. And also just. Let's just say I'm familiar with the psychology of individuals like this and. And that. Like there. He probably doesn't. If he might just want to leave the relationship. He's immature, right? And he might just be too much of a coward to want to break up with you because not fucking every. Like, it's okay. It's one thing if he skips one week of the month or something, but like to not like a bunch of times in a row and to make you come to him to drive to him. It's like he's sending you cow. It's a possibility that he's sending you coward signals to want to break up here. Right?

And it sounds like there's no communication happening between you because he can say to you like, I haven't been feeling sexual lately. And that's something you can go off of. But like to not say anything feels and have. I don't know if they've even talked about it yet.

I don't think so. And that's the.

That's why she's probably going crazy.

She's going crazy.

Crazy. You're normal.

That's even why the. Even she's come up with this theory of the Cam girl thing of like, it ain't that it's not like he's not beating off at 40. He's not beating off so much he can't fuck you. Like. And even him being like he's anti dick pills is like, is that even true? You know what I mean? Like I just, just, I would, you know, I would just. My guess here, my read of the situation is you need like something's off. You should talk to him about it. I don't think you're going to like what you find if he's. And I also, I wouldn't hold my breath that he was even going to be that honest.

[Eldis]

It's, he's putting it all on her. Every decision that is going to be made from like taking his dick to.

[Stavros Halkias]

Take my dick out.

Well, I don't want to take your dick out.

How you make me feel.

Yeah, yeah, yeah. No, I, I, this call, this call to me is like, it's like the C.O. the Ghost of Christmas future. It's like if change your ways St. Rose or this will be you. You know, like, this is the kind of where I'm like, I, I, I am truly trying to change my commitment issues. But it's like I could see the up like a way of thinking I used to have mutating in a decade into this where it's like you're just such a coward. You won't say, you won't even break up with her, but you also are like kind of checked out and just be like, maybe if I make her drive to my house 10 times in a row and don't even pull out my half limp dick, she'll break up with me. Like that's, that's kind of my read. Maybe I'm wrong. Hopefully I'm wrong. But definitely communicate. See what happens and don't hold your breath, toots. Start looking elsewhere is my real thing. But we'll see.

I feel like a lot of these calls, it's like talk to them.

Yeah. Oh yeah. Almost every single one is, starts with just have a conversation.

[Eldis]

But it is so hard. It just shows how hard it is.

[Stavros Halkias]

It's super hard. And I think just saying it, we were talking about it off mic but sometimes just putting your into words does as like a, as an exercise calling in. Because we're not going to get to almost any of these calls statistically and the ones we do get to, the episode goes out like four months after they called in. So it's like the amount of people who are actually helping is probably small. But hopefully people in similar situations get some solace out of it.

[Caller 2]

Hi Savi. Baby. So recently my sister received in the mail, anonymously a letter from a woman claiming to have been on a date with my sister.

[Stavros Halkias]

This Jersey shore letter. The Jersey Shore Ron. Ron was kissing a waitress or whatever. Letter. Keep playing it, elders.

[Caller 2]

My sister's husband does not know that I actually went into the trash and picked out the letters that he thought he threw away. Whoa.

[Eldis]

Down.

[Caller 2]

As for my sister, so I. Oh my God. Anyways, he doesn't know that I. But I'm gonna go to visit her Reese soon, so do you think I should confront him and slap him in the face as well?

[Stavros Halkias]

Let me know. That's awesome. She's. This. This girl's awesome.

Wow.

Wow. My sister received the mail claiming to have been on a date with my sister's husband. And you. I. I'm a little curious. What do you mean you. Do you just in general go through the trash? Yeah, I'm a little fuzzy on the details here, actually.

No, she did it. Wait, wait.

[Eldis]

I don't understand why she looked through the trash. Cuz it sounds like she heard about this from her sister.

[Stavros Halkias]

Yeah, I think the sister told her.

[Eldis]

Yeah.

Oh. So. No, she wants to know what she should do about it. The sister already knows about it.

[Stavros Halkias]

Oh, the sister knows.

[Eldis]

He doesn't know that this woman knows.

[Stavros Halkias]

I thought. I see, I see, I see.

She's like, should I tell him that I know?

Oh, so I thought you had. Yeah, yeah. That's weird for you to do. I mean, obviously I like that though.

[Eldis]

It's.

[Stavros Halkias]

I like the instinct. Sure, sure. The instinct. I get the knee jerk reaction to want to protect your sister and tell her husband. He's a piece of. I fully understand that, but it's an interesting move. And will it really help anything?

I want her to do something more manipulative and nefarious, like I'm with you, like secretly somehow, like set him up.

On Catfish him with a different.

Yes.

[Eldis]

Yeah.

[Stavros Halkias]

Yes.

Yeah.

And then be in the window.

Yes.

[Eldis]

Like, right.

[Stavros Halkias]

Be like, I'm gonna go. Her friend. Her friend go. It's a. It's a. How about this? It's a Halloween party, let's say. Right?

Yeah.

You know, we just. Halloween just ended. We all know that it's November 4th or 11th, it's really cold in here, but let's just say next year you go to a Halloween party and you get your hot friend to catfish this guy and you're wearing. She's wearing maybe a Phantom of the Opera mask. Right.

Or something.

Something like that. Right. And then. And then you send Your. Your. Your hot friends, like, I'm gonna go to the bathroom. And then you put on the costume, put on the phantom mask, and then you go back and you're like, hey, what's up, Eric? Boooh. It's me, you fucking asshole.

I know you're just in the corner of the ceiling.

Yes, perfect, perfect.

[Eldis]

Do that.

[Stavros Halkias]

That's good. That's good.

I want it to be like the sister doesn't even have to worry about it. Like she just wants. Or it seems like she just wants to like. Like stick a little pin in the husband.

[Eldis]

It's your own little game.

[Stavros Halkias]

Yeah. The problem is here, ultimately, ultimately this. Your sister has to figure this out and you have to help your sister out. About the thing that sucks is that sometimes our loved ones don't behave the way we'd like. Right? Like, some. Your sister might be like, this sucks. We're gonna deal with it and that, like, some people are even like, let. Let their significant others get away with crazy. Right. And you can't really stop them. So I just would caution. Is this gonna. Is this gonna be counterproductive unless you do some fun hij. Like sitcom level hijinks like we're suggesting. I don't know, you gotta talk. First of all, what does your sister want? How does she want you to behave? And that could be really hard because I get the. I get the impulse to be like this piece of. Let's slash his tires. Let's kick him out of the house.

And him not knowing that she knows must be driving her crazy, right?

Yeah, but he's. He's got to be. I mean, I guess he's. Yeah, he probably doesn't know. He's probably pretty dumb and she anonymous stay with him.

[Eldis]

Unless. Yeah. If her sister is, you know, has a hard time saying goodbye to this guy, maybe she does need some sort of extra support.

[Stavros Halkias]

Right.

[Eldis]

Like, I guess that's her to do that.

[Stavros Halkias]

And also some people take a longer time, right? So it's like maybe you just have to be there, be supportive. And then maybe after a couple months, your sister will be like, you know what? I can't live like this. Now it's time to really go crazy. Right? Yeah. But don't overdo. Don't. Because the other thing, what you risk doing here is making him a sympathetic figure in her eyes. Like, if you act in a up way, you can kind of bring them closer together again.

[Eldis]

So you hit him with your car.

[Stavros Halkias]

Right, right, right.

[Eldis]

Everybody's proud.

[Stavros Halkias]

Absolutely. So, yeah, just. I say lay in the cut Support your sister, talk to her about it. And, you know, and then I think there will be a time to act at some point a time. Absolutely.

And you should be in it for.

[Eldis]

The long, long haul, because past Christmas.

[Stavros Halkias]

This could be better the longer it goes.

Absolutely, Absolutely. And like, I think what would really cheer your sister up is maybe like a nice comedy. You know, she's laughing about lightly being cooked. She forgets her problems for 91 minutes, something like that.

And maybe get her buzzed on a twisted teeth.

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[Caller 2]

Hi, Savvy. Eldest and guest or guest. So I'm gonna cut right to the chase. So, found myself in a sugar baby relationship, I guess, last September.

[Stavros Halkias]

Nice.

[Caller 2]

And I've made quite a bit of money, and I'm a law student, and I'm not going to work for a corporation or like some big law firm. So I'm really just doing this shit for the people. So the extra money is really nice. So I've only seen this. So I'm 24. This guy's 64. I believe I've only seen him three times. Times. We've only ever kissed. And, you know, I send him like pictures of my tits or whatever.

[Stavros Halkias]

Nice.

[Caller 2]

But I haven't seen him since last year. And at the beginning of this year he had his second heart attack of his lifetime. Mind you, this man is also a two time cancer survivor.

[Stavros Halkias]

Hell yeah.

[Caller 2]

But this time he had to get a triple bypass. He was out of commission.

[Stavros Halkias]

Yeah.

[Caller 2]

Now of course, he like kind of running dry.

[Stavros Halkias]

Right.

[Caller 2]

He wants to see me again. My issue is that if I were to see him again, I did go to school with his son. I tutored his son's girlfriend. His daughter is younger than me, by the way. I did not meet him through his son at all. So that's not an issue. But my worry is that if, you know, if I were to go away for the weekend with him and there is some health emergency, which I is, it's probable that something like that could happen. Who the fuck do I call and how do I explain that I'm there? I'm not calling his ex wife, I'm not calling his son. So like how do I go about that?

[Stavros Halkias]

And.

[Caller 2]

I thought about, you know, just talking to him about it and being like, hey, like if something happens, like what should we do? But there's also this very real fear of like insulting him kind of. And I feel like older men in that position, you know, trying to go out with younger women want to feel like they're younger. And I don't want to like fuck this situation up because it is very advantageous for me.

[Stavros Halkias]

Yeah.

[Caller 2]

So basically I'm just wondering how I go about this because I really don't want this old man to die on me, literally or metaphorically. So yeah, would love any advice y'all have. Thank you.

[Stavros Halkias]

She needs to get into speaking. She's a beautiful speaker.

She's a great, she's a lawyer. She's going to be great in the courtroom. Going to give dynamite, dynamite closing arguments. This is interesting because if you weren't, if you didn't know his son, would you want to like call? I mean, it's just not, it's just not something you want to deal with in any way.

[Eldis]

I can't tell if she has like feelings for the guy at all or if he's just. It's very, it's so transactional. She just wants to make sure her insurance policy is fine.

[Stavros Halkias]

I think it's. I do think for her it's really transactional. I also am like curious about. She's seen him three times, so it's just like a. Mostly phone relationships is what it seems like. They've like, made out, she said. And. And so it's just. And you want to just keep it going, but you're worried. So now you want to meet in person, or I guess he wants to meet in person because the clock's ticking and he's like, all right, time for a little roi. Time. Time to see. Time to cash in some of these dividends. And I don't know. I just. You were saying, don't you. Like, you were saying, like, you just wouldn't do it.

[Eldis]

I wouldn't do it. Unless.

[Stavros Halkias]

What's the downside of her of, like, in an emergency calling, having his emergency con, or, like, wouldn't you just blowing his cover?

[Eldis]

It's not your revealing to his kids that he also.

[Stavros Halkias]

Wouldn't you just call the. An ambulance?

[Eldis]

Yeah, I don't know why the kid.

I was conf. I thought he was, like, already in the hospital, and she had to, like, she wanted to get in the hospital to see.

[Stavros Halkias]

No, no.

They were sick.

Doctors. I've never seen it. This man is gonna dies the second you take your mouth off his.

[Eldis]

Okay, so this makes more sense. She's actively. Or sucking and he's having an issue.

[Stavros Halkias]

That's the question. Yeah.

[Eldis]

She could just be, like, I told.

[Stavros Halkias]

Him on the street, is she going away with him? Is that what she's saying?

That's an interesting ratcheting up of things. Yeah, that's why I'm saying she's clearly like. Like, you know, she. I don't think she has feelings for him, but she doesn't. She'll go out with him. You know what I mean? So she's saying, all right, he's been in the hospital. We've been texting each other. We're probably gonna go away. He wants to go away for the weekend. If this guy has a heart attack, who do I call?

And it seems like things are so bad that she really thinks that something might happen.

Yeah, I guess part of me is like, yeah, you know, I don't know. I mean, I guess. Yeah. I mean, don't. It could happen. Call an ambulance. Isn't that the answer?

[Eldis]

Yeah.

[Stavros Halkias]

I don't think she needs to worry.

[Eldis]

She doesn't have to be the one.

[Stavros Halkias]

Like, he doesn't want. He doesn't want you calling his family.

[Eldis]

Yeah.

[Stavros Halkias]

You know what I mean? Like, this is not. It's just an interesting worry to have it because, like, yes, maybe I'm more of a gambler than this woman, but I would just be like, we'll cross that bridge when we get to It. You know what I mean? Like, I wouldn't worry about it that much. Much also, I guess more than that, she's worried. She's worried about her cover being blown with his son, who she knows. But it's also like, who fucking care? What? Unless this is this guy, like, is her son. Is his son like some kind of. How can that hurt you? Like, dating an older man is not. It's not like, oh, what, you're afraid his son isn't gonna like you? Who gives a.

No, I feel like she's probably just like, nobody knows that I'm doing this with. With this old man.

Yeah, I'd like to now someone my.

Age and the daughter's younger is gonna know that I've been doing. Sending pictures of my tits to their dad. I think if you're doing it, it's like, just do it.

I really think, like, a, in what world do you call his family and not an ambulance? And B, why? Who really gives a fuck? I know, I know. All things being equal, you'd like to. I guess you would just like to keep it private, which I understand. But if push really comes to shove, basically it really comes down to is the percentage chance that your cover gets blown is a small percentage that your cover gets blown to his family. Worse to you than the money you're making from this guy? That's really the cost benefit analysis here. And to me, it feels like if this guy's been that generous over a little making out and some titty pigs takes it's worth. It's worth rolling the dice on him not having his fourth heart attack while you're jerking him off. You might not even have to. This guy just keep kissing. Keep kissing.

[Eldis]

If he's also this frail that you're scared he might keel over, like when you're like, sucking his or whatever, it's like, time for a new long term plan. You gotta diversify the clientele.

[Stavros Halkias]

Absolutely. Absolutely.

[Eldis]

Double cancer. Cancer survivor or get in the will.

[Stavros Halkias]

Yeah, get in the will. And then who cares? Who knows who the.

[Eldis]

I think the long con is?

[Stavros Halkias]

Yeah, yeah. Hopefully marry him is a commodity. You need to cash in as much as you can. Eldish is red pill corner. All right, good stuff. Good stuff here. What do you think? I'll just a couple more.

[Eldis]

Oops.

[Stavros Halkias]

How. How we looking?

[Eldis]

We're about 50.

[Stavros Halkias]

Oh, you gotta do math.

[Eldis]

An hour and a half.

[Stavros Halkias]

Okay. We could do. Yeah, let's do one or two more. Yeah. Yay. Baby.

Baby, I'm sorry.

[Eldis]

Hi, Elvis.

[Caller 2]

Hey, Davi.

[Eldis]

Hey, Elvis.

[Caller 2]

Hello, beautiful guests. So my question is. Well, I've been seeing this guy for a while. He's amazing, beautiful, wonderful, nice, handsome. Bomb dick.

[Stavros Halkias]

Nice.

[Caller 2]

It's great. I fucking, I love it. Every single time we do it. I definitely come and sometimes he makes me squirt, you know what I mean?

[Stavros Halkias]

We get the cheering button.

[Caller 2]

He doesn't believe me. Even with like physical evidence sometimes he doesn't believe that the dick is bomb. He does not have confidence in his little man. Like not even little man. Decent sized man. Good sized man for a good sized dude, you know, like. So how do I get through his head? Like kick his bomb.

[Stavros Halkias]

He's okay.

[Caller 2]

Shit's bomb. You know what I mean? If you could help me out with that, that would be amazing.

[Stavros Halkias]

Oh yeah, let me help this guy out. This guy who so good that a woman calls another man for advice on proving to him that he good. Your boyfriend.

I was going to say just play him this.

Yeah.

This is amazing.

You and. You're a nice awesome dick and the woman who loves you. Yeah. What do you want? I mean, I don't know. This is. I guess this is the curse of having really low self esteem. Will just rob you of everything. It's like this guy's got it all. He's got this, this woman is speaking of him so glowing you can like hear her like batting her eyelashes and like looking, looking gazingly long, you know, longingly out the window thinking about his dick and he still. It doesn't get through his skull. So.

[Eldis]

Yeah, this is me and my husband with my stand up comedy.

[Stavros Halkias]

Yeah.

[Eldis]

No, no, yeah.

[Stavros Halkias]

It's exactly the same as that.

[Eldis]

Same.

[Stavros Halkias]

And how do you guys get. Get through it?

[Eldis]

I feel good for a little bit and. But then the negative words, the negative voice in my head takes over.

[Stavros Halkias]

Sure, sure.

[Eldis]

Every time. But it's getting better.

[Stavros Halkias]

Well, what's interesting about this is that's more psychologically complex. Whereas this is like this guy just busted a nut. A. A hot woman who loves him tells him how good it was and it's still not getting fitted.

[Eldis]

People have lied to him in the past or something about he doesn't trust what she's saying.

[Stavros Halkias]

He needs to believe it for himself in order to believe it.

So you, I guess you gotta let him. A bunch more girls. Yeah.

[Eldis]

In the corner. Go see look at her what she's doing. She's painting the walls. Cream.

[Stavros Halkias]

We're gonna have to reupholster this couch. Yeah. I don't know. There's no way to really. How long did she say how long they've been together? No. No. I. I wonder. I mean, this might just be a thing that is going to take some time to get through his skull. I've definitely. I definitely did not have sexual confidence early in. Early in relationships to the point where it just took me getting comfortable with somebody. So it's like, are you guys relatively early in dating? Because he just might. Whatnot. He might just be uncomfortable in general. And that seeps into even. You know what I mean? When you feel a little uncomfortable in a relationship or you don't feel secure in the relationship for other reasons, he might just not. He just might not believe that anything's going good. I feel that way where it's like, if anything's going good, I'm like, well, it's. It'll be over tomorrow. Oh, you know, like. And so that this might be an extension of that. You know what I mean?

[Eldis]

Well, I wonder if she's putting so much. Much emphasis on that. And he's like, well, what about my personality?

[Stavros Halkias]

Yeah, yeah, yeah. How about the painting I made you? And she's like, oh, I. I burned it for warmth. I burned it drying off my blanket. All this juice. You made me squirt all over it. So, yeah, it might. Maybe you're overplaying your hand, too. It might be to the point where it's like you're talking about how good he is in so much that it feels like you're patronizing him. Like, that was so great. You know, he might think it's that. That. But, you know, you just. This isn't a problem. You, him. Good for you. I'm glad he's knocking the. You know, knocking the. The. The off your. Not just completely knocking it out the park, but. He'll be fine.

[Eldis]

Keep squirting that. Twisted, twisted.

[Stavros Halkias]

All right. Just. Want to take us home, Elvis, what do you say?

[Caller 2]

Hey, Stop. My name is Kaylee, and I'm in Detroit, Michigan, and I'm here with my boyfriend Justin.

[Stavros Halkias]

The whole couple's here.

[Caller 2]

And let's just say that I just have a. I have really huge tits. Like, massive. Like a really big rat.

[Stavros Halkias]

Good for you.

[Caller 2]

And I want to get a boob reduction because my back hurts all the time. I get crazy in the clothes.

[Stavros Halkias]

Thank you, eldest. That's when we had a little mind meld. I could feel it happening.

[Caller 2]

And I want to get a boob production because my back hurts all the time. I look crazy in the clothes that I wear, and I just think it would enhance my overall appearance. I Disagree. I don't. What do you think? Tell me what you think. Tell me what you got going on. Hopefully you have a woman on you. Probably don't, but maybe.

[Stavros Halkias]

Hey, whoa. What is that? Just for that. Keep those big tits just for that. Good luck getting a.

Do whatever you want.

[Eldis]

And change your pronouns while you're at it.

[Stavros Halkias]

Cut your hair, dye it blue, chop your tits off. This is the world Kamala Harris wants.

[Eldis]

Tits do make the back hurt.

[Stavros Halkias]

So. I know. Look, philosophically I can. This is like how the President of the United States can never apologize just for like on philosophical terms. Philosophically, I can never. I can never. I can exactly like that. I can never. On the record support of breast reduction. I just can't. Philosophically, I can't do it. However, you know, I guess do whatever you want. Do whatever makes you feel better.

What if you do a little sexy photo shoot pre surgery with the giant titties, really showing them off and showing them love to give to. What is his name? Justin.

Yeah, well, I mean, look, who cares about Justin? It. He. Justin doesn't matter here. Unfortunately you must. You gotta do what's best for you.

And they're not gonna be small. I guarantee you.

[Eldis]

They're still gonna be huge.

[Stavros Halkias]

They're gonna be huge.

They're still gonna be huge.

You're talking shape.

They can do a lot of cool stuff.

[Eldis]

You can fit into bathing.

[Stavros Halkias]

They can do a lot lottery.

Girl, you're gonna feel so much better.

[Eldis]

Oh, you're back. Think about it.

[Stavros Halkias]

Yeah, whatever, I guess. Do whatever the you want. That's the episode. Watch the movie. I don't even. You know what? All of a sudden I don't even feel like a. A desire to live anymore.

[Eldis]

Just watch the first five minutes of the movie.

[Stavros Halkias]

Thank you so much for coming guys. This is so fun. And we'll see you guys later. Bye bye. Bye.

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