#105 - Blair Socci

Summary

Stavvy's World: Episode #105 - Blair Socci

Release Date: December 2, 2024

Hosts:

• Stavros Halkias
• Blair Socci
• Eldest (Guest/Co-host)

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1. Introduction and Guest Welcome ([01:02] - [03:11])

Stavros Halkias opens the episode by welcoming listeners to "Stavvy's World" and introduces the guest, Blair Socci, hailing from Southern California's scenic shores. He humorously reminisces about their first meeting, highlighting that Blair was the first friend he made in New York with no prior connections.

Stavros Halkias ([01:30]): "You may have been the first person who I did not know at all. Like the first friend I made with no pre-existing connections to New York whatsoever."

Blair Socci responds with excitement, noting how their meeting feels like it was back in 2017, emphasizing the long-standing friendship they've built since their initial encounter at the New York Comedy Club.

Blair Socci ([01:25]): "I know this feels like 2017."

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2. Early Experiences in New York ([03:11] - [05:30])

The conversation shifts to Stavros sharing his tumultuous early days in New York. He recounts living in a sublet plagued by bedbugs and toxic roommates struggling with amphetamine addiction. This period was fraught with discomfort and misconceptions, as Stavros initially mistook bedbug bites for mosquito bites from open mics.

Stavros Halkias ([02:30]): "In hindsight, they were just the most toxic couple of all time. They were both addicted to amphetamines and just never left the apartment."

Blair empathizes with the struggles of enduring such an environment, reflecting on how it left lasting impressions.

Blair Socci ([03:42]): "But once you have an experience like that..."

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3. Overcoming Challenges and Moving Forward ([05:30] - [09:33])

Stavros shares his relief at having been free from bedbugs for nine years, detailing his persistent fears and attempts to eliminate them by replacing his metal bed.

Stavros Halkias ([03:42]): "But I did freak out. There were multiple times where I would just come home and be like, I've got bedbugs and throw everything away."

Transitioning to broader topics, Blair introduces the idea of spirituality versus self-care. She discusses her journey through COVID lockdowns in LA, leading her to embrace mindfulness and personal wellness practices like breathwork and sauna sessions. Stavros humorously touches on his dabbling in self-care, equating his sauna time with a form of spiritual connection.

Stavros Halkias ([10:50]): "Exercise, eating. Right. Some sauna. I'm a sauna guy, but I get that spiritual deal."

Blair delves into her cultural background, revealing her Italian-swedish heritage and the complex dynamics with her parents regarding religion and spirituality.

Blair Socci ([14:00]): "My dad grew up in New Jersey and then his dad got transferred when he was 18 and to Orange County."

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4. Personal Lives and Relationships ([09:33] - [22:00])

The discussion shifts to Blair's athletic past, highlighting her time as a volleyball player at UCLA and her transition into comedy and writing. She shares anecdotes about her competitive nature growing up with older brothers and her experiences in sports, including humorous and embarrassing moments.

Blair Socci ([34:29]): "I was like a jock when I came out of the womb. Yeah, just like a full knee head."

Stavros contrasts his own athletic endeavors, discussing his brief stints in various sports and his challenges in high school basketball tryouts. Their banter reveals a camaraderie built on shared experiences and mutual teasing.

Stavros Halkias ([51:05]): "You're the Face of Baltimore sports."

The conversation deepens as Blair talks about her aspirations to be a novelist and her unexpected foray into comedy during grad school. Stavros adds a promotional plug for his movie, "Let's Start a Cult," intertwining it seamlessly into their dialogue.

Stavros Halkias ([50:31]): "Speaking of acting, I guess I should plug 'Let's Start a Cult,' I believe, is out in theaters right now and coming to VOD soon."

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5. Family Dynamics and Cultural Influences ([22:00] - [43:30])

Blair and Stavros explore their familial relationships, delving into their parents' cultural backgrounds and the impact on their upbringing. Blair discusses her parents' Italian and Swedish heritage, highlighting her father's indifferent attitude towards religion and her mother's subtle belief in God.

Blair Socci ([13:35]): "Only, like, culturally. Like, the hardcore Italian thing."

Stavros shares insights into his own family's approach to religion, revealing a similar lack of adherence despite cultural expectations. Their conversation underscores the challenges of navigating cultural identities within family structures.

Stavros Halkias ([14:23]): "At a Greek coffee shop. It really is."

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6. Adventures and Misadventures ([09:33] - [18:54])

The hosts reminisce about their travels and the mishaps they've encountered. Blair recounts a disastrous cruise to Corfu with her mother, plagued by lost luggage and food poisoning, while Stavros shares lighter travel anecdotes, including family vacations and cultural experiences in Greece.

Blair Socci ([18:06]): "like a woman in her 60s."

Stavros interjects with humorous takes on their adventures, blending personal stories with light-hearted commentary.

Stavros Halkias ([43:38]): "I had no money from before I left."

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7. Modern Life and Personal Growth ([43:30] - [65:37])

Blair discusses modern challenges, including dealing with social media suspensions and the pitfalls of maintaining relationships in the digital age. She reflects on her journey towards self-improvement and mindfulness, balancing personal growth with her career in comedy.

Blair Socci ([14:00]): "We don't do."

Stavros offers philosophical insights, drawing parallels between personal experiences and broader societal norms. Their dialogue touches on themes of authenticity, self-awareness, and the complexities of modern relationships.

Stavros Halkias ([24:35]): "So you're the most laid back one of the family, would you say?"

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8. Listener Call-In Segments ([57:07] - [112:02])

The latter half of the episode features Stavros and Blair addressing listener questions related to relationships, sobriety, and personal dilemmas.

Caller 1 ([57:07] - [63:44]): Seeks advice on navigating a new relationship where her partner disclosed past sexual relationships with his roommate. Stavros and Blair dissect the complexities of cohabiting relationships and the ethical implications of past actions, offering blunt and humorous advice.

Stavros Halkias ([62:02]): "That's where I think you fucked up, because you are fighting your nature as a jock."

Caller 2 ([66:08] - [75:14]): Discusses moving back in with parents due to financial strains and dealing with intrusive parental behavior. The hosts provide candid feedback on healthy boundaries and the importance of autonomy in adult relationships.

Blair Socci ([70:05]): "I think I should call into this podcast."

Caller 3 ([101:42] - [112:02]): Asks for guidance on maintaining a sober lifestyle while dating, fearing judgment for not drinking. Blair shares her strategies for balance, encouraging authenticity and setting clear expectations.

Blair Socci ([85:12]): "Make a list of 10 things you want to do and just do it."

Throughout these segments, Stavros and Blair blend humor with practical advice, maintaining an engaging and supportive atmosphere for listeners seeking relationship guidance.

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9. Closing Remarks and Promotions ([115:43] - End)

As the episode concludes, Stavros and Blair wrap up their discussions with final thoughts and promotional plugs for upcoming content and partner brands. They reinforce the podcast's mission to help listeners navigate personal challenges with humor and camaraderie.

Stavros Halkias ([115:15]): "Check out Blair. Watch your special and, you know, see. Let's start a cult if it's near you."

The episode ends with comedic advertisements for various products, encapsulating the podcast's blend of entertainment and sponsorships.

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Notable Quotes:

• Stavros Halkias ([01:30]): "You may have been the first person who I did not know at all. Like the first friend I made with no pre-existing connections to New York whatsoever."

• Blair Socci ([34:29]): "I was like a jock when I came out of the womb. Yeah, just like a full knee head."

• Stavros Halkias ([53:44]): "And it's like, if you're messed up looking and have a little dick, imagine how much charisma you'd have to cultivate."

• Blair Socci ([85:12]): "Make a list of 10 things you want to do and just do it."

• Stavros Halkias ([115:15]): "Let's start a cult if it's near you."

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Conclusion

Episode #105 of "Stavvy's World" with Blair Socci offers a blend of personal anecdotes, philosophical musings, and practical advice wrapped in humor. The candid discussions about overcoming early challenges in New York, navigating cultural identities, and fostering healthy relationships provide valuable insights for listeners. The engaging call-in segments further enhance the episode's relatability, making it a memorable addition to the podcast series.

Transcript

[Stavros Halkias]

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[Stavros Halkias]

Welcome Everybody to Stavie's World. 904-800-STAV Call in to for us to solve all of your problems we have on the couch. It was about time we got some surfer bro representation all the way from the beautiful. The beautiful shores of Southern California. Blair Saki is here. Thanks for coming, Blair.

[Blair Saki]

Oh, su, it's great. Great to see you. I know this feels like 2017.

[Stavros Halkias]

I know it is crazy. We. Yeah, it's. We were just talking about how it's. Because we met. Actually I was thinking about this. You may have been the first person who I did not know at all. Like the first friend I made.

[Blair Saki]

Yeah.

[Stavros Halkias]

With no pre existing connections to New York whatsoever. Because we met at New York Comedy Club when I was like, I mean, my first fucking couple months in New York.

[Blair Saki]

Oh, yeah, you hated it.

[Stavros Halkias]

So horrible. I was subletting a room with, unbeknownst to me at the time, bed bugs. And I kept being like, remember that? And I kept being like, hey guys, I'm kind of itchy. And they're like, oh yeah, you're just getting bit by mosquitoes at the creek in the cave open mike. I'm like, oh, okay. I guess I don't know the city. I guess they got real bad mosquitoes over there. No one else seems to be getting them this bad. But hey, I must just be sweet blooded. Yeah, yeah.

[Blair Saki]

And I was like, come, come with me, you sweet little Greek. I'll take you to the. I'll take you to the open mics.

[Stavros Halkias]

Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. We had some. We had some indoor open mics, but yeah, that was. Yeah, that was. That was Atrocious sub subletting a room with a couple who were, you know, I'm. We're friends of ours. But just again, in hindsight, how it was like bedbug addiction. In hindsight, they were just the most toxic couple of all time. In the throes of. They were both addicted to amphetamines and they just like never left the apartment. I was like, I guess this is how you make it in New York City. You just fucking stay in this apartment and hang out with your pals and I guess talk comedy.

[Blair Saki]

That is the craziest. Welcome to New York entrance.

[Stavros Halkias]

Look at me now, baby. I haven't had bedbugs in. It's been. It's been nine years. Yeah, yeah, yeah. It's been nine years since I've had bedbugs. But I did freak out. There were multiple times where I would just like come home and be like, I've got bedbugs and throw everything away. And I got a metal bed one time, cuz I was like, well, bedbugs can't be in metal. I had no money either. That's the other thing. I was throwing away clothes. I just. Anyway, whatever.

[Blair Saki]

Yeah, but I think once you have an experience like that, like the Phantom Forever.

[Stavros Halkias]

Forever.

[Blair Saki]

If you have a slight itch, you're.

[Stavros Halkias]

Like, yeah, yeah, yeah. I went to the dermatologist. They just prescribed me like lotion.

[Blair Saki]

Yeah.

[Stavros Halkias]

They prescribed me like a specific kind of. I just had dry skin.

[Blair Saki]

Right. But yes, but you're like, but it could be.

[Stavros Halkias]

But it could be.

[Blair Saki]

But it could be.

[Stavros Halkias]

Yeah. Yeah.

[Blair Saki]

That's so cool. That's so cool. We have matching glasses on today.

[Stavros Halkias]

We do. They're pretty similar.

[Blair Saki]

Yeah.

[Stavros Halkias]

Mine are for sight. Yours are because you had an allergic reaction to a dog. Sorry to expose you. Sorry to expose you.

[Blair Saki]

That's the truth.

[Stavros Halkias]

Yeah. You're like, I want to look extra fuckable on the pod. None of your fans are going to want to smash if I got puffy eyes, so I got to hide them. You were saying all this stuff.

[Blair Saki]

That's what. That's.

[Stavros Halkias]

You're like, the bigger the incel, the better for me, baby. That's my kind of guy. And we're like, we got a couple of those, Blair. Don't you worry.

[Blair Saki]

Yeah, no, my, my main objective on male comedy podcast is. Yeah, how, how sexy can I get.

[Stavros Halkias]

When I go on there?

[Blair Saki]

I want all those dudes to look at me and be like, I don't even hear this bitch. I don't even listen to what she has to say. Is she a model?

[Stavros Halkias]

I'm tuning out that angelic voice.

[Blair Saki]

Thank you for saying that.

[Stavros Halkias]

Thank you.

[Blair Saki]

Yeah. Thank you so much. I get a lot of lovely feedback.

[Stavros Halkias]

Sorry, I don't want to stoke the clay. I like your voice. I think it's very fun.

[Blair Saki]

Thank you.

[Stavros Halkias]

Yeah, that. Sorry. To stoke the. The. The feedback flames. No, no one be. This is what really works on the Internet. Nobody be mean to Blair. Thank you.

[Blair Saki]

S. Thank you very much. You know what's crazy about Instagram? I mean, you. Your Instagram is like so big. You probably don't like see if anyone. But like someone. If they catch me on the wrong day, usually I don't like say anything, but the other day I just wrote one wrote back shut up, bitch to. And then Instagram goes, you're suspended.

[Stavros Halkias]

That happened to me.

[Blair Saki]

I was like, I can't write shut up bitches to a troll on my.

[Stavros Halkias]

That happened to me. Yeah. I said something about I fucked the guy's mom and it was doing great. People were fucking torching him. Yeah. Yeah. And these are. These guys can't handle it. And then they're like, haha, we'll see about that.

[Blair Saki]

Yeah.

[Stavros Halkias]

And now you get auto suspended. If you have a big enough account, they'll just auto delete it and be like, you're strike. Watch out. You can't do that again. Literally. Shut up. Talking about how little a guy's dick is. It's really taking the lot the.

[Blair Saki]

Because look, the fun out of it.

[Stavros Halkias]

I would. I mostly ignore. But then every once in a while you just treat yourself.

[Blair Saki]

Yeah.

[Stavros Halkias]

To calling someone a bitch myself.

[Blair Saki]

The day before my period, I get to. I want to say, shut up, bitch.

[Stavros Halkias]

Yeah. And you deserve that.

[Blair Saki]

Yeah. And then. And then. And to me also, shut up is so innocuous.

[Stavros Halkias]

Sure.

[Blair Saki]

I mean these people are like saying, you know, they want to like stream like string you alive.

[Stavros Halkias]

Yeah. Yeah. They are. It is like you keep. You have to get. They almost like make you get creative to not get. To not get like, you know, your deleted.

[Blair Saki]

Yeah. And it's also like. But they're inside my house.

[Stavros Halkias]

Right.

[Blair Saki]

I can tell someone in my own home.

[Stavros Halkias]

Absolutely. You absolutely can. That's a. That's a sacred. Right.

[Blair Saki]

Right.

[Stavros Halkias]

To tell someone to. Right off. Yeah. Yeah. Most of I get the most. Yeah. I guess I've stopped. Which is a shame. It was always fun. I guess that's the Twitter being gone now. That was always fun just to pick some random piece of, quote, tweet him.

[Blair Saki]

Yeah.

[Stavros Halkias]

I mean, I'm small.

[Blair Saki]

I'm still on there. I don't know why. I'm going down with the ship, I guess. But, yeah, I do. I just write the dumbest on there. I enjoy it.

[Stavros Halkias]

Yeah. Good for you.

[Blair Saki]

Thank you.

[Stavros Halkias]

It's all about just making. Just enjoying your life.

[Blair Saki]

I love to enjoy life.

[Stavros Halkias]

Yeah. I mean, you absconded, so you were here, and it did feel like you were. It was interesting because you probably never should have come to New York. It was like. It's like. It's like you were like a. You were like a fucking octopus that was just like, finding little puddles of water to drink. Like, you should have been in the water, but you're like, no, no, I love it here. You're like the most California person that's ever existed.

[Blair Saki]

You know what's so funny? I swear to God. This happened last night.

[Stavros Halkias]

Yeah.

[Blair Saki]

I was, like, getting dinner with Irene before the show, and these two guys come up and they go, excuse me? To me, and they go, are you from California? Yeah. And he goes, okay, well. Because I bet my friend $50 and I just lost $50.

[Stavros Halkias]

That's crazy.

[Blair Saki]

Yeah. And. But everyone did say that to me when I was here. I loved it so much. When I live here.

[Stavros Halkias]

Yeah, yeah, yeah. What, so you just wanted to come? You were like, this is my. Because another thing, an interesting thing about you, a crypto jock. People don't know this. You're like. You're like. Now, Cal. You're doing, like, breath work stuff. You're, like, on the beach. You're back in California. You're like, Ms. Mindfulness or whatever the fuck you're up to. You're just. You're just like, all about, like, I gotta get my shit right. I don't. I have to protect my peace. Shit like that. You know what I mean? Like, you moved back to kind of do that kind of stuff. You know, you're just like. It felt like you were going through a spiritual well.

[Blair Saki]

Yeah. I mean, you know why? During COVID it was like LA was a lockdown. It was like you kind of lost, like, three years.

[Stavros Halkias]

I see. I see.

[Blair Saki]

I was just like, in my apartment.

[Stavros Halkias]

Yeah.

[Blair Saki]

I was like, I guess I'll just breathe. Or.

[Stavros Halkias]

Can you. Are you one of those motherfuckers that can breathe in a glacier and stay warm?

[Blair Saki]

I don't probably. Yeah.

[Stavros Halkias]

Your guys Wim Hof.

[Blair Saki]

Yeah. Wimble Half. Hey, Whim.

[Stavros Halkias]

Right. He's that guy that just goes, yeah.

[Blair Saki]

I found him to be an interesting man. I don't know what, you know, sitting down to dinner with him would be like, sure, yeah.

[Stavros Halkias]

But he can be in a glacier and just chilling.

[Blair Saki]

Yeah.

[Stavros Halkias]

Do you aspire to that? No. I tried it for a second. I was like, all right, this seems to be good for you. And I did it. What? Somebody had. I was doing. Doing a show, and Bert. It was the big tour, and so he has a bunch of random.

[Blair Saki]

Oh, yeah. He, like, makes you guys do all these activities.

[Stavros Halkias]

Yeah. It's like a summer camp you didn't know you signed up for. You're like, I thought, I'm doing shows. They're like arts and crafts. And there's fucking eight cameras in your face. I'm like, oh, I kind of would rather. And they're like, arts and crafts. I'm like. They turn the camera off, and then it comes back on. I'm like, I'm so excited to be doing arts and crafts. But they had a. I was pumped. They had a ice bath, and I was like. Because I also got. I got a little into. I'm not a very spiritual person, but I definitely, this year got into a little bit of, like, self care. Yeah, I'm gonna get my shit. I'm gonna get my mind right.

[Blair Saki]

Self care, mostly.

[Stavros Halkias]

Exercise, eating. Right. Some sauna. I'm a sauna guy, but I get that spiritual deal. To me, yes. That's the closest I get to spiritualism. That's what I just realized is, like, I had six months of just thinking and, like, no. Not worrying about anything. And I was like, the closest I got to spirituality is just, like, a couple of times I would be in the. In the sauna, total dark, just kind of be zoning out. And then I started watching Bosch on an Amazon Kindle fire tablet.

[Blair Saki]

We all.

[Stavros Halkias]

And then to me, that felt spiritual. Like just putting on.

[Blair Saki]

Just watching Bosch.

[Stavros Halkias]

46. No, 46 minutes of Bosch in the sauna. Just right. My body gets used to it. Yeah. That's how I connect. Because Hieronymus Bosh, there's a. His. The thing is his code. There's a beauty to his code that we can all aspire to. It's justice and truth above all else. Whether that's his personal responsibilities, whether that's the red tape that the LAPD wants to impose upon him, whether that's just societal norms. Bosh doesn't care. The danger of himself, that's out the window for him.

[Blair Saki]

Bosh lives outside the lines, baby.

[Stavros Halkias]

Well, Bosh is for trying to find justice for the victims.

[Blair Saki]

Yeah.

[Stavros Halkias]

Everyone counts or no one counts. That's a kind of a go to motto For Bosh.

[Blair Saki]

Beautiful. And I've always said that about you too. And that's. That's what I've always loved about you. So for you to find that representation on Amazon prime is truly.

[Stavros Halkias]

And yeah. With such a good company that I love and respect so much.

[Blair Saki]

Right. You actually are not actually a very soulful, soulful person.

[Stavros Halkias]

Soulful, you would say. Okay, I'll take that.

[Blair Saki]

Yeah. I mean, a lot of people might not know that about you, I think.

[Stavros Halkias]

I guess I'm for the first time realizing I have no. Just having this conversation because I just. I guess I don't. I do think spiritual is dumb as. And, like, I think there's something to just like, chilling and being with your thoughts and, like, going on a nice walk and watching the sunset and being like, oh, hell yeah. That's sick.

[Blair Saki]

I think that's what it is.

[Stavros Halkias]

Okay, I'll take that.

[Blair Saki]

Yeah. No, because I think that a lot of it can get really weird.

[Stavros Halkias]

Yeah.

[Blair Saki]

My whole thing with.

[Stavros Halkias]

Well, I'm not just. Sorry. I was. I was gonna come up with a guy who's like, well, I'm not spiritual, but I am really religious. I just love the rules and I love feeling better than people and I love guilt, but I don't believe in any spirituality. Like, that's a funny guy to me. But anyway, sorry.

[Blair Saki]

No, no. I think that I'm not religious at all because I think it's really weird.

[Stavros Halkias]

Were you raised religious?

[Blair Saki]

Only, like, culturally. Like, the hardcore Italian thing. Like, we had to do all the catechism and all the classes. And of course, I took every word literally.

[Stavros Halkias]

Yeah.

[Blair Saki]

And I was like, I have to save my family from the fiery pits of hell pressure.

[Stavros Halkias]

So Catholic. Catholic.

[Blair Saki]

Catholic, yeah. But then when I would, like, ask my parents about God, they would, like, immediately change the subject. What are you doing?

[Stavros Halkias]

Interesting.

[Blair Saki]

We don't do.

[Stavros Halkias]

Oh. So the guy I just made up is literally your family. Like, we don't believe in anything, but we want you to feel bad. Like, we felt bad.

[Blair Saki]

No, no. I think it was just like, an Italian thing.

[Stavros Halkias]

I think there is a cultural thing. My dad clearly does not think about God ever. And he would never go to church. But when we were like, why the fuck you're never at church? You always go watch soccer.

[Blair Saki]

Right.

[Stavros Halkias]

At a Greek coffee shop. It really is. And his response was like, I went when I had to as a child, and now you go when you have to. And when that's over, I don't fucking care what you do.

[Blair Saki]

Yeah, yeah, yeah.

[Stavros Halkias]

Like my mom, which is Very interesting. My mom is not. I never thought of her as religious. Lil V shout out to her. I never thought of her as religious. But she I think actually does believe in God and is a little sad. I just don't believe in God at all. And my dad. Boo. But she never forced really us to go to church. I think she just kind of wanted us to find our own thing. But my dad, who did want us to go to church just because it was like, you have to, right? He's like, just. I don't, I'm not, I don't know why. I'm not going to think about why, but it's just something you have to do. He. I don't think, I don't know if he thinks about God at all. Yeah, he probably will be one of those. That's why all, that's why people have those deathbed confessions. Because it's like I can see my dad really weirdly getting religious if he knows he's about to die.

[Blair Saki]

Right.

[Stavros Halkias]

Try and sneak in a little.

[Blair Saki]

Oh, sneak it in.

[Stavros Halkias]

Sneak in a little past the heaven.

[Blair Saki]

Hey, how have you been anyways? I'm on my. I, I actually pray a lot. I, I like, I don't know to who or like it's not like a religious God or anything.

[Stavros Halkias]

Yeah, yeah, yeah. Just putting it out there.

[Blair Saki]

Yeah, I like into the ether. Yeah.

[Stavros Halkias]

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[Eldest]

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[Blair Saki]

My dad's 100%. My mom's Swedish.

[Stavros Halkias]

Oh, okay, that makes sense.

[Blair Saki]

Yeah.

[Stavros Halkias]

Gotcha. Gotcha. Yeah. Yeah. It's just so funny to say hardcore again. It's like, I know there are people who technically are Italian that are so LA coded, but it's just hilarious to be like, yeah, I'm Italian, bro. Oh, hey, I'm looking for Don Finucci. Yeah, actually our families are actually engaged in a centuries long blood feud and I'm actually back from SoCal to kind of slit your throat. Yeah, in my head. In my head. That's how you talk.

[Blair Saki]

You know what's crazy is because my parents, like, injuries do sound fake. Like my dad got hell yeah. Blasted by a stingray the other day.

[Stavros Halkias]

Oh, my God.

[Blair Saki]

On top of his.

[Stavros Halkias]

Holy. He almost got Steve Irwin, like, truly. Wow.

[Blair Saki]

But it was like on top of his foot and it hit an artery.

[Stavros Halkias]

Oh, my God.

[Blair Saki]

Blood was like going gushing.

[Stavros Halkias]

Holy Geyser from a stingray.

[Blair Saki]

Brothers had to carry him to like take him to the hospital. The seven year old man.

[Stavros Halkias]

That's funny.

[Blair Saki]

When I say that people, it just sounds too. And then like when my mom tore her Achilles, wake surfing. I mean, not her Achilles, her hand string.

[Stavros Halkias]

Like five years ago. Holy.

[Blair Saki]

Yeah. Like a woman in her 60s.

[Stavros Halkias]

Damn.

[Blair Saki]

No bindings, baby.

[Stavros Halkias]

Damn. Wake surfing. Good for her. That's nuts. Yeah, but it's just so funny to think of that being like your dad being Italian. Just. When did, when did the family move to. How did they get to California?

[Blair Saki]

Well, my dad grew up in New Jersey and then his dad got transferred when he was 18 and to Orange County.

[Stavros Halkias]

Oh, transferred where? He was in the military or just a job? You don't know what it was?

[Blair Saki]

No.

[Stavros Halkias]

Any idea? Is it because it's problematic? You're like, he was.

[Blair Saki]

No, I think it was like Morgan.

[Stavros Halkias]

He was running a private prison and they actually, they actually were trying to take advantage of the booming Latino community. They had locked up enough black people in Jersey and they were like, all right, we need someone to head up the Latino division in Orange County. And your girls like, ooh, me, me, me, me, me.

[Blair Saki]

Wait. This is the number one political podcast.

[Stavros Halkias]

This is the number one political podcast in America. Yep.

[Blair Saki]

This is where you sort of get to the bottom of the issues.

[Stavros Halkias]

We expose our guests. We expose our guests for being Nepo, baby. Corporate prison. Corporate heirs to a prison fortune.

[Blair Saki]

Corporate heirs to prison.

[Stavros Halkias]

Yep.

[Blair Saki]

Wow.

[Stavros Halkias]

The dark. The dark secret behind Blair Psaki. She doesn't even talk like that. It's to keep people off the scent.

[Blair Saki]

That was really good.

[Stavros Halkias]

Thank you.

[Blair Saki]

You could do a movie trail.

[Stavros Halkias]

Thank you. I'm thinking about it. Yeah. I'm thinking about doing more voice work.

[Blair Saki]

You could do a lot of it. Thank you.

[Stavros Halkias]

Wow. What a supportive friend.

[Blair Saki]

Probably call them right now. Listen, Pixar.

[Stavros Halkias]

Yeah, yeah, I'm ready. I'm ready. Let's get a new. Let's cook up something new. Girl has her period or something. Yeah, I watched Turns into a panda. Isn't that one of them?

[Blair Saki]

I saw the first five minutes of that. I was like, this isn't really.

[Stavros Halkias]

It's called red. And she turns. She gets her brain. She turns into a giant red panda. And it's like. I mean, come on, guys. We can't. One layer of subtlety, one layer of metaphor. We can't do. Like, it's also like, it looks like a soaked.

[Blair Saki]

Like, it looks like.

[Stavros Halkias]

Looks like a tampon. Raccoon.

[Blair Saki]

Yeah. It got dipped in a toilet full of blood. That is truly the wildest premise for a movie.

[Stavros Halkias]

I bet you it's good too. But it's like. Yeah, it's like, come on, she can't turn into a different. Sure, it's got to be red. Sure.

[Blair Saki]

She has to be turning red. Yeah. That is really on the note.

[Stavros Halkias]

A little. It just feels like a second draft. It's not the first one. The first one's like Madame Pussy Blood. And they're like, no, no, we can't say pussy or blood about red. Okay. And then they were like. They didn't fucking massage it at all. But again, I bet it's good. You know, Pixar does a lot of good stuff.

[Blair Saki]

I love it. And I'm available if you guys need my.

[Stavros Halkias]

Oh, yeah. What's going on? Why aren't you. Why aren't you, like, voicing, like, a haunted Jack in the box?

[Blair Saki]

I don't know.

[Stavros Halkias]

Or something like that.

[Blair Saki]

Yeah, I really. That's my dream. To voice the haunted Jack in the Box. I would have thought more like Polly Pocket.

[Stavros Halkias]

That's good, too, but on either end of the spectrum. Spectrum. I'm trying to think outside the box. I could have said a, you know, a cute little squirrel or something, but I said. I said Honda Jack in The box.

[Blair Saki]

Oh, my gosh. You know, the main thing that people comment on my now is that she has the same condition as RFK Jr. Oh, right. RFK Jr. Really?

[Stavros Halkias]

I don't care. I don't see that. Yeah.

[Blair Saki]

I don't know.

[Stavros Halkias]

It doesn't waver as much. Yeah.

[Blair Saki]

Voices like that. Right.

[Stavros Halkias]

I thought he got hit in the throat or something.

[Blair Saki]

Oh, really?

[Stavros Halkias]

I think so.

[Blair Saki]

Oh, I made that up then.

[Stavros Halkias]

I don't know. He might. I don't know what RFK's up to. He was showing his dick to some reporter. That's pretty funny. By the way. Who gives. Who gives a. Oh, a. Kennedy was cheating. Of course.

[Blair Saki]

But it is wild, the sheer magnitude.

[Stavros Halkias]

Yeah. I didn't.

[Blair Saki]

How do you have that much time while also campaigning?

[Stavros Halkias]

It is true. Well, before. That's the thing. That's where he fucked up. Is trying to be president. He had an awesome life getting all the side pussy he wants. Cheryl from fucking Curb is not gonna stop him. You know what I mean? She doesn't give a fuck. Really. And I believe they met while he was cheating.

[Blair Saki]

Really?

[Stavros Halkias]

I believe it's a marriage born out.

[Blair Saki]

Of cheating, which is anything about it. But maybe she's doing that. Maybe she's got it.

[Stavros Halkias]

I think they're. Oh, yeah. That could be an open situation. How did RFK and Harold shot? Thank you for doing a little producing. Not. Not from her. Wikipedia. They're not gonna say the real story. Dude, whatever, man. Who gives a fuck? It doesn't matter that much. I think he. I don't fucking know what happened to rfk, but salute to him.

[Blair Saki]

Yes, salute.

[Stavros Halkias]

He's got some great.

[Blair Saki]

Love your voice.

[Stavros Halkias]

Incredible. You have no. You don't have an RFK thing going at all.

[Blair Saki]

Thank you.

[Stavros Halkias]

They're Internet hacks, so.

[Blair Saki]

Yeah. Well, thank you.

[Stavros Halkias]

It doesn't waver, your voice.

[Blair Saki]

Yeah, except for if I get tired or have too much caffeine.

[Stavros Halkias]

Really?

[Blair Saki]

Or even have one adult beverage the night before.

[Stavros Halkias]

Oh, really? I'm gonna hang over your air dog.

[Blair Saki]

It like I can get leak. Okay. How's the scream on stage?

[Stavros Halkias]

Sure, sure, sure. She has to be on vocal rest. Okay. Interesting. All right, so, okay, let's get back to the origins of the Saki family. So grandpa gets off work, long day at the prison, and your dad comes home.

[Blair Saki]

I think it was like mortgages or something.

[Stavros Halkias]

Your dad got an internship at the prison. He loved it.

[Blair Saki]

I don't think there are any prisons in Orange County.

[Stavros Halkias]

Oh, there's definitely prisons in Orange County.

[Blair Saki]

They're probably like underground or something sinister.

[Stavros Halkias]

Yeah, absolutely.

[Blair Saki]

Yeah.

[Stavros Halkias]

So. And your dad. Your dad just like it. I'm going to. I'm going to California.

[Blair Saki]

I. Apparently, he really didn't want to go, and he had, like, long hair and.

[Stavros Halkias]

Oh, wow. A hippie.

[Blair Saki]

Sort of like that guy in Remember the Titans.

[Stavros Halkias]

Sure, Sunshine.

[Blair Saki]

Yeah. Because my dad's, like, so, like, type A and clean cut and all this stuff, and so. It's so wild to hear that. And apparently, like, he wouldn't play football because the football coach told him he had to cut his hair.

[Stavros Halkias]

Wow.

[Blair Saki]

And see? Yeah. So I found out where I got my stubbornness.

[Stavros Halkias]

Right, right, right.

[Blair Saki]

Yeah.

[Stavros Halkias]

From Pops.

[Blair Saki]

From Pops.

[Stavros Halkias]

Your mom's not like that. Your mom's a go with the flow type person.

[Blair Saki]

No, no.

[Stavros Halkias]

Also stubborn.

[Blair Saki]

Yeah.

[Stavros Halkias]

I think I look, you know, interesting. So you're the most laid back one of the family, would you say?

[Blair Saki]

I don't know. I.

[Stavros Halkias]

Because you have all brothers, right?

[Blair Saki]

Yeah, I don't know if I'm laid back. I'm like.

[Stavros Halkias]

Yeah, I wouldn't say that either.

[Blair Saki]

This woman. I laugh a lot. I have a good time, but I'm genuinely generally pretty worried.

[Stavros Halkias]

Yeah.

[Blair Saki]

I don't know about what.

[Stavros Halkias]

That's the downside to having the Cali aesthetic. Everyone thinks you're just going with the flow. You're having a panic attack.

[Blair Saki]

A lot of things. I don't know. What about me gives that.

[Stavros Halkias]

What do you mean? Just the way you look. People are stupid, Blair. That's what you have to understand. We're trapped. We're prisoners to the most, like, basic, like, things. We're putting out the word, like, we're. We'll never escape that. I would. It would be nice if people were judged by what's inside, but it will never happen.

[Blair Saki]

Right, Right.

[Stavros Halkias]

Right. So you better just kind of adapt.

[Blair Saki]

Yeah.

[Stavros Halkias]

Be pushed into the boxes society tells you to.

[Blair Saki]

You know what I want to be, though, is that person that's, like, it's not that deep. It's not that deep. Like, I want to be. It's not that deep person. I'm working on it, but I would never say it out loud. Rude. And it's dismissive to other people's emotions, but in my head, to myself, I want to be like, it's not that deep.

[Stavros Halkias]

Well, that's what I think. That's where I think you fucked up, because you are fighting your nature as a jock, as a blonde jock, by, like, being introspective and, like, thinking. And you are naturally. And it's not that deep. Shut up. Nerd. Person. And you're trying. And you're trying not to be. You know what I mean? I've seen the. Don't think I don't think. I haven't seen the real estate pictures. 23 year old Blair, blonde as hell.

[Blair Saki]

How did you even find that?

[Stavros Halkias]

That's who you are, bro. That's who you are. You shouldn't have come to New York to find yourself.

[Blair Saki]

I came here to be a novelist.

[Stavros Halkias]

Anomalous.

[Blair Saki]

When I met you, I was in grad school.

[Stavros Halkias]

You were still in grad school. I didn't know it was novelist. I knew you were like writing. Yeah. But I just.

[Blair Saki]

I guess I didn't remember accidentally started a comedy.

[Stavros Halkias]

That's so funny.

[Blair Saki]

Like very oddly like. And like I started comedy like right when I found out about comedy. Like I had like barely ever even.

[Stavros Halkias]

Incredible. That's so before I started Respect. What a way to make a life decision.

[Blair Saki]

I definitely did not think was a life decision.

[Stavros Halkias]

Yeah. Yeah.

[Blair Saki]

I thought I was doing some weird, secret quirky thing across the country that no one's gonna find out about. Like I was like living my odd Felicity, of course.

[Stavros Halkias]

Before going back home.

[Blair Saki]

Yeah.

[Stavros Halkias]

Getting a job at the prison.

[Blair Saki]

Married the banker. Marrying the banker. Living in Newport Beach.

[Stavros Halkias]

Exactly. Which. There's still time.

[Blair Saki]

Maybe there's still.

[Stavros Halkias]

Novelist. I love that.

[Blair Saki]

Yeah.

[Stavros Halkias]

The waves were gnarly today. As Sebastian got on his board, he noticed. He couldn't help but thinking maybe in the winter there'll be fresh powder as well. But for the summertime, he could only enjoy the tasty waves. Wow. Did you have any like. Did you have any, like. Had you sketched out any ideas for a novel or like, what was your great novel gonna be about?

[Blair Saki]

I actually. Well, I graduated. Which is the most celebrity.

[Stavros Halkias]

Wow. That's crazy.

[Blair Saki]

That's how much I didn't know this.

[Stavros Halkias]

You were fully in classes when we met the whole time. That's insane.

[Blair Saki]

Two years.

[Stavros Halkias]

That's fucking crazy. I truly like, had some idea, but. Yeah. Yeah.

[Blair Saki]

I completely forget that any of that happened or that I even have a degree.

[Stavros Halkias]

Yeah. Yeah. Like you have an mfa. I guess.

[Blair Saki]

I guess so. I guess I do. Yeah. But for what? I don't know why. For who.

[Stavros Halkias]

So what was the. What was your. What was your, like, final project or.

[Blair Saki]

Thesis or whatever collection? A short story.

[Stavros Halkias]

Very nice. Hell yeah. Give us. What was the. What was your favorite one? Let's go. Give me one. Give me the plot of one.

[Blair Saki]

I genuinely don't even remember. It was all a blur, as you know. Yeah, Yeah. I Feel like all we did was like we none of us were ever went home and we were just like out like all night and never like. I don't know when I did any of that. Right.

[Stavros Halkias]

Yeah, yeah, yeah.

[Blair Saki]

And just doing so many shows and mics just like ah, comedy.

[Stavros Halkias]

Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. Let me not take seriously this thousands of dollars education.

[Blair Saki]

I didn't. Academic scholarship. But still it was like lighting.

[Stavros Halkias]

Yeah.

[Blair Saki]

Money on fire.

[Stavros Halkias]

Yeah. I mean one of the out of state MFA's ever done out of state MFA that you weren't like also a TA for. There's no even. Unless they gave you like a hundred thousand dollar scholarship.

[Blair Saki]

I really thought that that was gonna be my career.

[Stavros Halkias]

Wow. Like.

[Blair Saki]

And I was gonna.

[Stavros Halkias]

Who did you want to pattern your life after? Like what was there?

[Blair Saki]

George Saunders.

[Stavros Halkias]

George Saunders. Who the is he eldest?

[Blair Saki]

He writes. Well, he writes some novels.

[Stavros Halkias]

Okay.

[Blair Saki]

But he was, he's mo. I feel like he's most famous for short stories. Stories.

[Eldest]

Yeah.

[Stavros Halkias]

Okay.

[Eldest]

He like, he like started writing when he was working as like a technical writer in his like late twenties or some.

[Stavros Halkias]

And I think.

[Eldest]

Where's he from? Like Buffalo or something.

[Stavros Halkias]

I don't know what's a good story of his.

[Eldest]

I've never read any of his stories.

[Stavros Halkias]

Okay. Elders. No Elders.

[Blair Saki]

Like a famous one, I think it's called the Spider.

[Stavros Halkias]

Spider something.

[Blair Saki]

The Spider. There was a movie with Toby Maguire.

[Stavros Halkias]

Spiderman. Spider Man 1. Okay.

[Blair Saki]

Your listeners are like what the are they talking about?

[Stavros Halkias]

Oh yeah, of course. There's the, there's like, there's like, there's like a handful of like writer nerds who are so pissed right now. Sorry.

[Blair Saki]

But you're actually super intellectual. They know that about you.

[Stavros Halkias]

I don't know that I'm intellectual, but I do like a lot about politics and you know, I don't really know a lot much about stuff.

[Blair Saki]

Okay. Maybe not anymore.

[Stavros Halkias]

Yeah, exactly. I used to be. I, I. Since I was 20, my knowledge of everything has been dwindling.

[Blair Saki]

Yeah. When I met you, you were like, it was a. On your way to the White House.

[Stavros Halkias]

I don't know. I don't know about that.

[Blair Saki]

Really took a turn.

[Stavros Halkias]

I don't know about that. Honestly. After Bernie now for real, it's like I am truly the most stereotypical Bernie bro. But after Bernie lost, I was like, who fucking cares? We're fucked. Nothing good is ever going to happen. I'm not learning any more about politics. And then like, you know. But who, you know, who gives a. I did know stuff, but it's over now. It's all over. All my knowledge is in podcasting and stand up comedy. Two of the most important art forms for. For humanity.

[Blair Saki]

Yeah, but now you're like, it's so crazy. You're like. You're a comedy giant.

[Stavros Halkias]

Relax. Tell me I'm fucking intellectual in a comedy giant. I can't handle this, Blair. I'm not. I'm doing fine.

[Blair Saki]

Crazy.

[Stavros Halkias]

We're doing okay here at Stavi's World.

[Eldest]

You know, you're like a modern philosopher.

[Stavros Halkias]

That's true. Now, finally, something I can get behind. I do. I am leading a generation with my emotional intelligence. You can't weasel out of your upbringings that easily. By the way, with compliments.

[Blair Saki]

What? Look, I shred. I did shred. You know, I started surfed. I surfed for a while.

[Stavros Halkias]

You surfed?

[Blair Saki]

Then went into volleyball. I read a lot of books and that was sort of it.

[Stavros Halkias]

But when you say went into volleyball, you played volleyball and at what, ucla?

[Blair Saki]

Yeah.

[Stavros Halkias]

That's kind of nuts, right?

[Blair Saki]

Yeah, that was.

[Stavros Halkias]

You were like a serious volleyball player.

[Blair Saki]

You can't even say that with a straight face.

[Stavros Halkias]

It's funny to me. It is funny to me that you are. That you were.

[Blair Saki]

I mean, this is like 70 years ago, but. Yeah, that was like.

[Stavros Halkias]

Were you like a little jock in high school? Was that your whole personality?

[Blair Saki]

I was like a jock when I came out of the womb. Yeah, just like a full knee head.

[Stavros Halkias]

Yeah, yeah, yeah.

[Blair Saki]

You know, like when I've had all the. Because when you have older brothers, you just don't.

[Stavros Halkias]

With you.

[Blair Saki]

Yeah. Like, it's like. It's like hand to hand combat. Like, you're just. It's like survival every moment. So, like, when I would then go to like, play soccer with the little girls, like my age, I would just like. I was just literally mow down, like, as if it was totally normal.

[Stavros Halkias]

How many?

[Blair Saki]

That's what I thought it was.

[Stavros Halkias]

You have how many older brothers?

[Blair Saki]

Two other brothers. But we lived in a neighborhood where there was 13 families with boys the same age and no girls.

[Stavros Halkias]

Really? You were the only one or like, one of a handful?

[Blair Saki]

No, I was the only one.

[Stavros Halkias]

That's crazy.

[Blair Saki]

Yeah. And so, like.

[Stavros Halkias]

And there were 13 families with all boys the same one girl?

[Blair Saki]

Yeah. I mean, there was, like, other kids and stuff. There were. There weren't any really girls my age.

[Stavros Halkias]

Wow. Who's like your first? First. Who was your first, like, friend?

[Blair Saki]

No, I mean, I had girlfriends, like, from school and sports and stuff, but I just mean, like, in the neighborhood. And so it was just like this Mob of. And I was just like, wanted to share air with them, you know, like, and I would. And like, if. If they needed a. If one guy wasn't around and they needed a fourth to come play Nintendo 64. And I would just like sit there quietly, like, praying. I got called up to the major.

[Stavros Halkias]

Right, right. You know, they're like, I guess you just have to throw away the N64. I guess we'll just throw it in the trash.

[Blair Saki]

Be like, blair, come on, just piss.

[Stavros Halkias]

They had to play with you.

[Blair Saki]

Yeah. And then like. And then I would be like, oh my God, don't move the controller. Don't like, you know, because that's the girl thing where you like go move the controller. And I'm like, okay. And then like, I would go play when they were gone and they would. I would lose their spot where they saved on the. And they would get so mad at me. They're like, blair, you were playing Star Fox again when we were gone. And I'm like, that wasn't me, that was mom. I didn't do that.

[Stavros Halkias]

So you had to survive. You had to be physical for survival. They must have beat the shit out of you. Yeah, yeah, yeah. A little sister with two older brothers. Yeah, yeah. You know, like a lot of people. My beloved grandmother, 92 years old at this point. Not the most tech savvy. So it might seem a bit odd to get her a tech adjacent gift, but Aura's digital frame is actually perfect. That's because, yes, it's tech, but it's so easy. I set it up for my beautiful grandmother. She gets a stream of pictures from me. My brothers, they have wives. I show her, I don't know, pictures of eldest. My life is empty, folks. But it's full of perfect gifts to get your loved one. And that's the Aura digital frame. It's so easy to get started. And once you do, the tech is incredible. I can upload photos right from my phone in just a. It'll even pair photos together for me. Like two pictures of the same person. I mean. Guys, for a limited time, visit auraframes.com and get $45 off Aura's bestselling carver matte frames. My mother and grandmother have those right now in their rooms. I love them. They're a beautiful gift. Use promo code Stavi at checkout. That's a U R A frames.com promo code STAVI. This exclusive Black Friday Cyber Monday deal is their best of the year, so don't miss out. Out. Terms and conditions apply. And then you started playing sports from the jump, basically. Nice.

[Blair Saki]

Like it was great. I mean a lot of this stuff sounds made up.

[Stavros Halkias]

No, I mean, I get it.

[Blair Saki]

I was the fastest downhill skier in California when I was 4 years old.

[Stavros Halkias]

Why do they even Coca Cola? You had Coca Cola sponsorship? Wow. You're probably. Yeah. You were probably a cute little blonde kid.

[Blair Saki]

I guess.

[Stavros Halkias]

Perfect to drink a little Coke. Are they supposed to give 4 year olds coke?

[Blair Saki]

I don't know. It's like. No, what happened was I. It all happened accidentally, of course. Like everything where like it was a. I was just going down the hill, but it was like a setup racing thing and I guess they had like. But really I was just chasing my family trying to get down the hill so they didn't leave me.

[Stavros Halkias]

Wow. You know, look at that.

[Blair Saki]

Yeah.

[Stavros Halkias]

Your whole life, your whole life is just trying to chase your family who's like, you know, not that interested. Like they care, but they don't.

[Blair Saki]

It's not.

[Stavros Halkias]

The biggest concern over there is what's up with you. You're always trying to figure that out.

[Blair Saki]

No, my parents finally saw me do stand up for the first time at my special.

[Stavros Halkias]

Oh, wow, that's cool. Yeah, my, my parents. Your parents? Watch, you know, I mean, my parents have come to Baltimore shows and now they want to come and it's kind of annoying to be honest with you, because it's like.

[Blair Saki]

Because you're like talking about dick sucking and stuff.

[Stavros Halkias]

No, actually that I don't care about. It's them. I want to talk about them. Them or like my family. And I'm like, come on. Yeah. Ruining my art form. It's like you like, you like all the little perks that have come with me doing well.

[Blair Saki]

Yeah.

[Stavros Halkias]

Then you gotta let me talk about the. Some of the most crucial mistakes you've made in your lives. Some of the many ways you, me and my brothers up. You have to. I have to talk about that for the world. But I don't want you in the audience while it's happening. Right, but whatever.

[Blair Saki]

Yeah, I like don't talk about my family anymore anymore.

[Stavros Halkias]

Now it's current events.

[Blair Saki]

No, I truly hate political comedy.

[Stavros Halkias]

Yeah. Yeah. Just because.

[Blair Saki]

Just because it's just like all you hear about. And so I'm like when I want to going to be entertained, like that's just not what I feel like hearing about.

[Stavros Halkias]

And plus the Babylon Bee just does it so good. How are you going to top that? Yeah, no, it sucks. And it's. It's so hard to get right. Right. But so Cuz I. I mean it is interesting to think about cuz little kids and you actually played in college. But like so much of a little kid's life is sports.

[Blair Saki]

Yeah.

[Stavros Halkias]

And it is like I think about that like I. Who am not a talented athlete.

[Blair Saki]

No, don't say that about my friend St. That is not true.

[Stavros Halkias]

Okay. I'm a real.

[Blair Saki]

I know you got some moves.

[Stavros Halkias]

Thanks, buddy.

[Blair Saki]

But.

[Stavros Halkias]

But who? You know, obviously I couldn't play it on like a more serious level, but when I was little, that's all I did until I. Until I legitimately got out of high school.

[Blair Saki]

Right.

[Stavros Halkias]

And then it was just like. That's out of your life completely. Was that because you. You played? I guess. You know, I guess downhill skiing didn't really continue for you, but volleyball did.

[Blair Saki]

I was just like. When it. No, like that wasn't even like a big sport for me.

[Stavros Halkias]

You just setting records. It doesn't. You're not even trying. Like I was just trying to get some hot cocoa.

[Blair Saki]

Truly, literally, that's all I cared about.

[Stavros Halkias]

So you must have been on volleyball teams then for the. That was like your main sport.

[Blair Saki]

Yeah, well, I wanted to play soccer. And this is like the saddest thing. Like I still talk to my mom about it where. But my mom took me out of volleyball because like she met my dad at San Diego State and she was like, I wanted to put you in volleyball so you'd be able to play on the beach with the boys. Like I never could. And I was like, I could have been an Olympian.

[Stavros Halkias]

Like.

[Blair Saki]

But then I said that to Greta once and she was like, yeah, but you would be teaching clinics. Tory Pines right now.

[Stavros Halkias]

Sounds like a good life. I don't know. Tory Pines is nice.

[Blair Saki]

It is nice.

[Stavros Halkias]

Yeah. See?

[Blair Saki]

Do you golf?

[Stavros Halkias]

No.

[Blair Saki]

I feel like you're gonna get into. I feel like coming.

[Stavros Halkias]

I'm not gonna be a golf. Now look. Does riding around in the cart.

[Blair Saki]

That's what I like.

[Stavros Halkias]

Getting up.

[Blair Saki]

Yeah. And being in nature. That manicured nature.

[Stavros Halkias]

That seems fun doing that once. But like I will never be a guy who cares. It's also like. I don't know. I'm. I. I don't want to do like, like just rich guy stuff that just rich guys do. That's boring.

[Blair Saki]

What do you do that is rich guy stuff?

[Stavros Halkias]

I don't. That's what I'm saying. It's like I live in the place you live in. You've been to this place before when.

[Blair Saki]

I had no money from before I left.

[Stavros Halkias]

Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah.

[Blair Saki]

I feel like we watched like the first season of Drag Race here.

[Stavros Halkias]

We de. There was definitely some Drag Race watched on that. That. On that for sure. Were you.

[Blair Saki]

That is very humble of you that you're still here.

[Stavros Halkias]

Yeah, well, who knows how long but.

[Blair Saki]

Going to Austin next?

[Stavros Halkias]

Yeah, yeah. I'm gonna get a condo right above the mothership. I'm gonna. I'm gonna be next door neighbor. Tony has a great condo. I'm gonna sit next to him. I'm gonna be next to him.

[Blair Saki]

No, I go in a condo.

[Stavros Halkias]

Yeah, I just want to do that. Condo life. No, I would actually. I thought about this and I. I would rather probably kill myself than live in Texas.

[Blair Saki]

Really?

[Stavros Halkias]

I cuz it's a great visit place. But like it's hot as.

[Blair Saki]

Yeah, it is really hot.

[Stavros Halkias]

It's so hot. It's just like I like a city. I like walking around. I like. I like public transit. Like I like Europe.

[Blair Saki]

You like to be by the Greeks?

[Stavros Halkias]

I love being by Greeks. I also like a flight that's closer to Greece. For real. Like it's not that hard to get to Greece from New York. New York's the best place on the, on the east coast.

[Blair Saki]

How long does it take?

[Stavros Halkias]

Like seven hours. Seven hours there, ten hours back.

[Blair Saki]

Wow.

[Stavros Halkias]

So it's not that. I mean long. It's long, but I mean LA is fine.

[Blair Saki]

You go to Greece a lot now?

[Stavros Halkias]

I go. I try and go every year.

[Blair Saki]

Wow.

[Stavros Halkias]

Yeah.

[Blair Saki]

Where do you go? I want to go so bad.

[Stavros Halkias]

I go. I mean my family's in Athens and my godfather's on Noxa and I try and go to a different island every time.

[Blair Saki]

Wow.

[Stavros Halkias]

So I went to this time the.

[Blair Saki]

Silent, I think beautiful pronunciation.

[Stavros Halkias]

It's called Corfu. I don't know why it's called Corfu in English, but.

[Blair Saki]

Oh. I went there once for a day on like a 700 cruise and I got food poisoning.

[Stavros Halkias]

Wow. Yeah. That sucks.

[Blair Saki]

You know, I went absolutely ham on some, of course didn't turn out well for me, but I still enjoyed it.

[Stavros Halkias]

That's awesome to eat that on the. On like a beach trip because that's like a. A homemade like casserole. Yeah, that's like a heavy ass. It's good. But I like to go grilled when I'm on the beach personally.

[Blair Saki]

Like what? Oh, like seafood.

[Stavros Halkias]

Seafood meats.

[Blair Saki]

Yeah.

[Stavros Halkias]

Salad, all that kind of.

[Blair Saki]

Sure.

[Stavros Halkias]

What was the cruise was a family cruise? It was a relationship cruise?

[Blair Saki]

No, it's like this cruise. I begged my mom to go with me. Like I saw Someone. It was literally like 700, like, all inclusive.

[Stavros Halkias]

Yeah. Hell, yeah.

[Blair Saki]

And my mom, the whole time, they lost her luggage. It took like three flights to get there. My mom was just.

[Stavros Halkias]

You and your mom?

[Blair Saki]

Yeah, it was just me and my mom.

[Stavros Halkias]

And then you got food poisoning.

[Blair Saki]

Corfu was tight, though, for the eight hours we were there.

[Stavros Halkias]

Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah.

[Blair Saki]

Gorgeous.

[Stavros Halkias]

And then you got food poisoning on a boat.

[Blair Saki]

No, I got. Well, I got it from off the boat, but. Yeah.

[Stavros Halkias]

But then you had to deal with the ramifications. On a boat.

[Blair Saki]

Yeah. Throwing absolutely blowing chill.

[Stavros Halkias]

That's.

[Blair Saki]

Mom. You love this trip.

[Stavros Halkias]

Mom.

[Blair Saki]

Isn't this tight?

[Stavros Halkias]

Isn't this awesome?

[Blair Saki]

Mom, Aren't you glad we came here? Your personal floating hell. Yeah.

[Stavros Halkias]

I mean, a cruise is atrocious.

[Blair Saki]

No, I'll never. I got that.

[Stavros Halkias]

Yeah.

[Blair Saki]

You know, out of the way. I don't think I need to ever do that again. No. And then, like, it is weird because, like, the whole point of traveling is to be able to, like, go to dinner and nightlife and stuff. And, like, it's like curfew. Like, you're on a field trip. Like, you have to be back at the boat at like five and then.

[Stavros Halkias]

You sleep on a boat.

[Blair Saki]

Yeah.

[Stavros Halkias]

Like a migrant being, like, sex trafficked. Like, it sucks. What do you. That's what you are. Not having a much different experience than some lady in a shipping container, is my point. And you paid thousands of dollars for it.

[Blair Saki]

Seven hundred.

[Stavros Halkias]

I'm sorry, seven. And that was probably part of the problem. If you're going to do it, maybe chip in a couple extra bucks. I was like.

[Blair Saki]

I was like 22 or something.

[Stavros Halkias]

Yeah. Fresh. Fresh off the volleyball court, baby. It's my heaven.

[Blair Saki]

Yeah.

[Stavros Halkias]

So what was your most devastating volleyball loss there? A lot. There must have been a few.

[Blair Saki]

Yeah, I had a lot of crazy stories. Like, the most humiliating. Yeah. It wasn't even the loss. It was my personal moment. I was a freshman and we were playing University of Arizona and it was their senior night, so, like, everyone came out. Big night to their entire, like, crowds going crazy. Was full. The whole school.

[Stavros Halkias]

And that's a big school.

[Blair Saki]

And. And they had this senior who's in Kim Glass, and she's Olympian.

[Stavros Halkias]

Oh, wow.

[Blair Saki]

And amazing.

[Stavros Halkias]

Huge.

[Blair Saki]

Like 6, 3. And was also an America's Next Top Model. Beautiful.

[Stavros Halkias]

Sounds awesome. What's she up to these days? I don't know. I said, what's up?

[Blair Saki]

If you see her. And I was like at the five foot line and. And she just drills a ball off my face, like straight down, like, straight down. Like, I was like so close to the neck right off my face and.

[Stavros Halkias]

Did it your nose up or anything?

[Blair Saki]

The entire. Over the loudspeaker goes Kim Glass with her career 1000 kill. And the entire stadium stands up. And so this moment where I'm seeing stars and I'm like, don't touch your face. The whole thing is don't touch your face. So it's like. Acts like it's not affecting you. I can't see. I don't know where I am. The moment lasts. It was like a 20 minute.

[Stavros Halkias]

Yeah.

[Blair Saki]

Moment.

[Stavros Halkias]

Yeah.

[Blair Saki]

It just kept the ovation.

[Stavros Halkias]

Must have been good for you, though, because that gave you time to blink it off so you didn't have to.

[Blair Saki]

Be like, ah, everyone's watching.

[Stavros Halkias]

Yeah. Oh, my God.

[Blair Saki]

Like, like the whole.

[Stavros Halkias]

Is that highlight anywhere? Kim Gl. Look up. Kim Glass, 1000. Kim Glass, 1000. 1000 career kills. 1000 career kill.

[Blair Saki]

Eldest type something else.

[Stavros Halkias]

Go to video.

[Blair Saki]

There's no video.

[Stavros Halkias]

Please, God, let there be video.

[Blair Saki]

No, there's no video. Okay. Okay. Thank God.

[Stavros Halkias]

Wait. Ah. No. Call of Duty.

[Blair Saki]

No.

[Stavros Halkias]

Look up Kim Glass. Kim Glass. College highlights.

[Blair Saki]

Oh, another thing that was, like, really, really embarrassing.

[Stavros Halkias]

It's all you. Team USA stuff. You're lucky you're so. I'm gonna find this.

[Blair Saki]

No, it's not on there.

[Stavros Halkias]

I'm gonna. Nobody research.

[Blair Saki]

Nobody. Look, there's no research.

[Stavros Halkias]

Anyway.

[Blair Saki]

No, look at Blair.

[Stavros Halkias]

Look at Blair Saki. College highlights.

[Blair Saki]

Off. I've moved on. Why does it really say Blair Saki's husband video?

[Stavros Halkias]

I don't know. They're trying to figure out who it is I am. No, just a bunch of nice. That's pretty fun. A defensive specialist, SL Lib.

[Blair Saki]

Okay, please stop. This is a lifetime ago. I am an entertainment professional.

[Stavros Halkias]

That's entertainment.

[Blair Saki]

I have given up all athletics.

[Stavros Halkias]

Playing in front of that. That amount of crowd, though, is better than doing stand up in front of big crowds.

[Blair Saki]

Well, I'll say. Like, there were some crazy things, like when we played Nebraska, like those Midwest teams where it's like, they're so all about it.

[Stavros Halkias]

They have nothing.

[Blair Saki]

Their entire. It was 16,000 people.

[Stavros Halkias]

Holy shit. Yeah, that's. That's got to be fucking cool as shit.

[Blair Saki]

Yeah. It was really scary, though.

[Stavros Halkias]

Yeah, I see. I was like, not built like me, dude. I would have been like. And energized by the crowd. I would have been, like, jumping higher than I am.

[Blair Saki]

I was a freshman. I was like, what the is going on?

[Stavros Halkias]

Yeah, yeah. Freshman is kind of crazy.

[Blair Saki]

Yeah. But, yeah, then I Went to grad school and met you.

[Stavros Halkias]

So you went to. You were done playing volleyball, and you're like, time to be a novelist. Yeah.

[Blair Saki]

I was like, I'm an artist now.

[Stavros Halkias]

I'm an artist.

[Blair Saki]

I. You know what's funny is, like, when I quit volleyball, I just never thought about it again. Again.

[Stavros Halkias]

That's pretty interesting. Yeah.

[Blair Saki]

Yeah. I was just like, oh, that I had spent my whole life. I was like, there's so many other things I want to do. I would, like, try out for plays, but I never had time because I had such a gnarly athletic schedule.

[Stavros Halkias]

Interesting.

[Blair Saki]

Yeah. Did you do play? You did plays? Did you.

[Stavros Halkias]

I did the opposite. Where I so clearly should have done acting, but I was like, no, I'm a jock. Like, like, I. I talked about this on a recent episode. And by the way, speaking of acting, I guess I should plug let's Start a Cult, I Believe is out in theaters right now and coming to VOD soon. We got to do that in the beginning.

[Blair Saki]

Wait, did you write the movie?

[Stavros Halkias]

I wrote it with a couple friends. Yeah.

[Blair Saki]

I can't wait to see this.

[Stavros Halkias]

Yeah. It's going to be.

[Blair Saki]

I'm so excited.

[Stavros Halkias]

I. I'm. I'm really excited for it. But, yeah, I just talked about this, but I basically did that where I was like, I just wanted to play sports, and I wanted to be a fucking jock so bad, and I was. Whatever for? I could play high school sports. But no.

[Blair Saki]

But I so clearly had mad hops that.

[Stavros Halkias]

That I can't even ironically go with.

[Blair Saki]

You guys got boosted.

[Stavros Halkias]

I had. I got. I got this far off the ground.

[Blair Saki]

No way.

[Stavros Halkias]

I got. But I was. I was. I was. I was. I was a youth.

[Blair Saki]

I knew you could get rim.

[Stavros Halkias]

No. Yeah, Yeah, I used to dunk. No, I got cut. I probably got to cut the fastest anyone's gotten cut from a high school basketball tryout where they did, like, the. They lined everybody up. It was just the clearly, like, like, okay, everybody who's 57 is cut immediately. And it was like. It was like, all right, everybody line up. We did, like, literally, like, a sprint and, like, a dribble, and they're like, all right, the seven fat, short white kids are gone.

[Blair Saki]

And.

[Stavros Halkias]

And then they started the real handle. They didn't even let. I could have been a floor general.

[Blair Saki]

No, you would have run that like a navy.

[Stavros Halkias]

Yeah, that's right.

[Blair Saki]

Oh, my God.

[Stavros Halkias]

That's right. But. But you know that's Baltimore Polytechnic Institute's loss, right? But then you.

[Blair Saki]

Now you're, like, the Face of Baltimore sports.

[Stavros Halkias]

Yeah.

[Blair Saki]

So you showed up.

[Stavros Halkias]

That is true. Like, maybe I should try and make the Ravens.

[Blair Saki]

You should send a little note to your high school coach, say, look at me now.

[Stavros Halkias]

Yeah, well, I did play football. Okay, Right. So they know I had some athletic ability.

[Blair Saki]

Baltimore.

[Stavros Halkias]

I wrestled. I played lacrosse for a semester.

[Blair Saki]

I. Can you please explain the wrestling thing to me? I've never understood why anyone would want to do that.

[Stavros Halkias]

It's just, you know, pure brute force.

[Blair Saki]

But it just sounds. It just looks so unenjoyable.

[Stavros Halkias]

It's cool to be like, I'm. I'm stronger than you, but what if.

[Blair Saki]

You'Re just like, sleepy and you're just like, damn, I don't feel like attacking a man right now. Never.

[Stavros Halkias]

You got to do what I mean, whatever you did was way worse. All the you had to do for sure college volleyball.

[Blair Saki]

But wrestling as just like, as a concept, as a sport, like, it just looks just really unenjoyable. Same with swimming. Like, I did swim team for one year because my parents forced me and I hated it so much.

[Stavros Halkias]

And.

[Blair Saki]

But you just like, look at all the little boys and they'd be like in Speedos, being like, and it's cold.

[Stavros Halkias]

And no one wants.

[Blair Saki]

And you're just like, oh, just like. It just seems not fun at all. Yeah, that's not in wrestling also.

[Stavros Halkias]

Well, that's true. I forgot about worrying about how little your dick looks in the singlet. That that was a real worry. But you get over that.

[Blair Saki]

And then I forgot that you always talk about you.

[Stavros Halkias]

I don't always. I don't always.

[Blair Saki]

But talking about, I don't love it since I've known you.

[Stavros Halkias]

It's a big. It's a, you know, part of what I think about quite. I mean, I'm over it now, but definitely in high school.

[Blair Saki]

Really? Because, like, I didn't. Like, what if this is just a shtick and you really got a hammer on you?

[Stavros Halkias]

I wish. I'm not that kind of a genius. Look, am I maybe underplaying my dick sell?

[Blair Saki]

You know, undersell, over deliver.

[Stavros Halkias]

Undersell, over deliver. But we're not over delivering by much, right? We're just, I barely don't have the smallest dick of all time is kind of how I look at it. Yeah.

[Blair Saki]

Wait, so then the smallest dick of all time.

[Stavros Halkias]

Okay.

[Blair Saki]

Is that like a micro penis?

[Stavros Halkias]

I don't have a micro penis. Oh, I will put that on the record. But as far as regular, my is just a. Just maybe right at average.

[Blair Saki]

Okay.

[Stavros Halkias]

But also, like, but spiritually, my Dick is small. Actually, spiritually, it's pretty big.

[Blair Saki]

No, but physically, it's small.

[Stavros Halkias]

Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah.

[Blair Saki]

No, but then I always said this about, like, really hot people, and I feel like it's probably the same thing with, like, a huge hog. Is that, like, take them off so.

[Stavros Halkias]

They can see you. You. Yeah.

[Blair Saki]

You never had to, like, cultivate any charisma or, like, anything interesting about you or.

[Stavros Halkias]

And if you're fucked up looking and have a little dick, imagine how much charisma you'd have to cultivate. Enough to be a intellectual comedy giant.

[Blair Saki]

Yeah, yeah. You heard it here first.

[Stavros Halkias]

And the modern philosopher of our times.

[Blair Saki]

Yeah, absolutely. I always think of you as a modern philosopher.

[Stavros Halkias]

Yeah, I might go to grad school. We'll see. That would be so awesome.

[Blair Saki]

I think I went once. I don't know.

[Stavros Halkias]

Yeah, I'm not sure. Well, we should. We should bring your unique perspective. You've lived many lives.

[Blair Saki]

I have. Yeah.

[Stavros Halkias]

And so why don't we try and help some of our. Some of our callers here? And do you have anything you want to plug here at the midway point of the show?

[Blair Saki]

Oh, I. Thank you very much. I do. Yes. I have a new special app out called Live from the big dog on YouTube, and I would love for you guys to check it out and write some really nice comments.

[Stavros Halkias]

Yep. Yeah, yeah. Be like, kim Glass owns you.

[Blair Saki]

How's your face?

[Stavros Halkias]

Still recovering? Yeah, it's been 15 years, but.

[Blair Saki]

All right, easy.

[Stavros Halkias]

Sorry to do the math. Sorry to do the math that quick. It's been six years.

[Blair Saki]

My face still hurts from last year.

[Stavros Halkias]

Folks, you know us here at Stavi's World, we like to keep it twisted. Oh, yeah. And there's no better beverage to keep it twisted with than our beautiful friends over at Twisted Tea. Are you a fun hunter? Do you go out on your Sundays and hunt fun? Maybe consider cracking open a delicious twisted tea? It's delicious. Brewed with real iced tea, 5% alcohol by volume. Take it outdoors, take it indoors, whatever you're doing, watching the Ravens play. I'm on a sober year, but you better believe the second I can crack a little something, a little naughty twisted beverage, I'm going right to twisted tea. We love twisted tea here. We love Keep it Twisted. And if you want to be like us, if you want to keep it twisted, just like us, grab a refreshing twisted tea today. And remember, keep it Twisted. All right, Big L, play us some calls here.

[Caller 1]

Hey, Stavi.

[Blair Saki]

All right.

[Caller 1]

I got a question for you. I always trust your advice, so I'm Starting a new relationship. It's only like three months in. We have had sex.

[Stavros Halkias]

Nice.

[Caller 1]

But I tried to take everything super slow because I have a history of jumping into relationships and, like, being a love addict. So I'm trying to correct for some past behaviors on my part.

[Stavros Halkias]

This guy's got another code of relationship.

[Caller 1]

Anyway, about like a week ago, my new guy mentioned that he had had sex with his roommate, who's an older woman. They had like, a sexual relationship for six or seven months over the winter, and they stopped having sex about two months before.

[Stavros Halkias]

That's wild. I mean, this guy's pretty interesting. He's got, first of all, older woman room mate. Just that if you don't fuck them is a great. A hilarious dynamic.

[Blair Saki]

Porn.

[Stavros Halkias]

It really is porn. It's like, oh, I just got fired. Do you mind if. Yeah, it's like, oh, yeah. I'm renting out my room ever since my husband passed. I can't afford the payments myself. I'm so sad and lonely. Just. And just. If my tits ever jump out of my dress while I'm washing dishes, just let me know. You know, it's just been me and my husband here. I'm not used to having to cover up, so this is hilarious. But anyway, two months. You're right to live with someone that you stopped having sex with for a.

[Blair Saki]

Long time two months ago and that you still share a bathroom with.

[Stavros Halkias]

Yeah, well, who knows? They might got their own in suite, but, you know, who's to say? Probably not. Also, you got the lady you fucked right there while the new girl you're going on a couple dates with ain't doling out pussy. I wonder if. I wonder if his roommate ever got a rapping at the door one month into that relationship. But I won't. Who knows?

[Blair Saki]

Yeah.

[Stavros Halkias]

I don't want to make you more paranoid than you already. Pure speculation. Not based on. Not based on any fact. But this. This is what I'm paid. This is what I'm paid to do is to just really attack it from every angle. Keep going, Eld.

[Caller 1]

But the weird thing is, amongst other things, is that she, like, thought. Thought they were kind of together.

[Stavros Halkias]

Oh.

[Caller 1]

But she also didn't want anyone to know that they were together or have this kind of.

[Stavros Halkias]

I hear you saying, this is. This is wild. This is tough.

[Caller 1]

Didn't want anyone to know that they were together or have this kind of sexual dynamic to their roommate relationship.

[Stavros Halkias]

Sacred. The roommate relationship.

[Caller 1]

Anyway, like, I think that he started seeing me. I think the whole thing is super messy. Yeah, I don't really understand why he would have sex with his roommate, first of all, and then why would accept the kind of dynamic where she sounds, like, completely out of it. I don't understand how she could have that perspective.

[Blair Saki]

Anywho, I do see how she could have that perspective. They live together.

[Stavros Halkias]

They live together and they had sex for seven months. I think, actually pretty. It's actually much harder.

[Eldest]

He's like saying, I love you as he bust inside her the second time.

[Stavros Halkias]

And this girl's like, I mean. I mean, you are so. It's insane. You're the world's worst journalist. You have one source who's directly involved in everything, and you're just taking his word for it. I mean, yeah, this is. This is so fucked up and weird.

[Blair Saki]

I am laughing right now because I remember when I used to have these conversations about, like, guys I like, and you'd be like, what are you talking about? How can you not see that? Exactly what's happening?

[Stavros Halkias]

That's what I'm bringing. That's the. That's the perspective I bring to this show.

[Blair Saki]

That's truth.

[Stavros Halkias]

The truth, baby.

[Blair Saki]

Brutal.

[Stavros Halkias]

Like. Like Hieronymus Bosch. I'm always looking for justice in this world. I'm sort of the Bosch of Colin. Advice podcast for everyone or no one. Everyone counts or no one counts. So, yeah, this is really strange and weird, and he's not telling you everything. You're just accepting his side of the story. But. But from our outside perspective, they had a. He should. Yes. He shouldn't have fucked his roommate. Guess what? He did. And he fucked her for six or seven months over the winter.

[Blair Saki]

That's a long relationship.

[Stavros Halkias]

And then he says they. They stopped having sex about two months before he met you. That, to me, sounds like if I were going to lie. And what's the closest time that is acceptable for me to have cut it off? I would probably pick two months.

[Blair Saki]

I need to call into this podcast.

[Stavros Halkias]

Yeah, I wouldn' I. I'm just a little dubious about this whole thing. And you do see, like, it's good that you took it slow. You didn't, like, dive right in. But, like, you can see this is weird. And. Yeah, I mean, whatever. You didn't. She said she'd been dating him three months for three. So this woman had a twice as long relationship. Whatever you want to say, they had a relationship, whether it was casual, whether it was Whatever. Whatever. I don't know how casual it can be when you live with someone and you. Them even.

[Blair Saki]

It's no, there's nothing even slightly casual about that, no matter how hard you try to twist it.

[Stavros Halkias]

Exactly. It would take the world's. Two of the world's clearest communicators with like who are on the same exact page for that to be true. And I got. I have a hunch that's not what we have here. Right. Like, clearly the woman thought they were together. Together. This guy. I don't trust him. I don't. I don't know why you're trusting him implicitly because I don't know that I take what he would. I don't know that I would take what he's saying as the. As truth. Necessarily as the completely unvarnished truth. Yes, sir.

[Blair Saki]

I'm. I'm on. You know I have your best interest in my heart right now. But I don't know why you're thinking she's crazy.

[Stavros Halkias]

Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah.

[Blair Saki]

You're like, I don't know. She's out of it. She lives with him and they've been forever. Why would she think they're together now? But I don't think. I think this. I don't know. This doesn't sound like a nice, easeful, lovely situation for you. I think I would bounce if I were you.

[Stavros Halkias]

Yes. Yes. So. And now to. To play a little devil's advocate here, the. This woman is also an idiot. Who. Her roommate. Right. So let's put. Let's. They're both dumb. Right? So just to.

[Blair Saki]

That's why I don't believe in roommates.

[Stavros Halkias]

Just to give credit where credit's due. Cuz you keep them. I've never.

[Blair Saki]

I've never had a male roommate.

[Stavros Halkias]

Smart.

[Eldest]

That's why I had to stop living with stuff.

[Stavros Halkias]

Yeah. Eldest was sucking me off too sweetly.

[Blair Saki]

God, you guys are upset. Work and pleasure, baby.

[Stavros Halkias]

It's all one up, one big tr. Our lives are one big pig's true off. And it's like work friends. Yeah, kind of. Yeah. This is. Elvis's wife is calling in, so. Yeah. But your point though is. Is a good one, Blair, because she's calling and talking about. She wants to take it slow. She wants to be like intentional about dating now.

[Blair Saki]

Yeah.

[Stavros Halkias]

And this to me is like a great one of the benefits of you taking it slow and not feeling emotionally entangled with this guy is that you can now see this is up. I'm better off just kind of starting over somewhere else.

[Blair Saki]

Yeah.

[Stavros Halkias]

That's kind of my read on the situation. It's a little weird.

[Blair Saki]

Unfortunately, I think you are already emotionally involved. Given that you are making this phone call.

[Stavros Halkias]

But imagine not as bad as she could have been.

[Blair Saki]

Much worse than it would will be in like a year.

[Stavros Halkias]

When.

[Blair Saki]

When this man has turned you inside out.

[Stavros Halkias]

Yep.

[Blair Saki]

I say take the money and run.

[Stavros Halkias]

Yep.

[Blair Saki]

Get out of there.

[Stavros Halkias]

Get out of there.

[Blair Saki]

Make like Bosch and get out of there.

[Stavros Halkias]

Well, Bosh sticks around until justice serves. Let's not. Let's not play fast and loose with the Bosch mythology, Blair. And I really think you should check out Bosch. And also Bosch Legacy. Yeah, Bosch Legacy. Season one on freebie. Season two commercial free. All right. Play another one. Eldest.

[Blair Saki]

I pray for that girl.

[Stavros Halkias]

I know.

[Caller 2]

Hey, Stavi. Long time. First time. I've been with my girl for about six years. Lived in an apartment, moved out from my parents about two years ago. Shit's been pretty good. But because of how expensive everything is, we're going to be moving back in with them at the end of this month. My question is about two or three years ago.

[Stavros Halkias]

We.

[Caller 2]

During COVID We are towards the end of COVID We were going on vacation, and we have a dog. So we set up a camera, like a puppy camera in my bedroom while we were living with my mom and dad. Time.

[Stavros Halkias]

Wherever this is going, hidden or anything.

[Caller 2]

It just was, like, up, you know, on a shelf that we could see where the dog was. About 20, 30 minutes after we left to go to the Outer Banks, we checked the camera, and we see my mom digging through my girlfriend's. My just being snoopy.

[Stavros Halkias]

What?

[Caller 2]

And then on the camera, we see. She sees the camera immediately, like, freaks out about it, texts us, thinks that we're, like, spying on her, and so we kind of have to go on vacation with this just, like, looming in the back of my mind. We come back from vacation. It never really gets addressed. My girlfriend tries to apologize, which I don't even think she had anything to.

[Stavros Halkias]

No. What the. Yeah. Absolutely not. We agree with you. Your mom's being a dumb bitch.

[Caller 2]

Apologize for. You know, I think my mom was in the wrong on this one, but she tries to apologize. My mom basically turns it back to her. Won't tell her anything. Like, won't even acknowledge the situation. Fast forward to now. We're getting ready to move back in. My mom sends a super passive aggressive text to me and my girlfriend saying that we're gonna have to sign a lease. We're gonna have a late fee if we don't pay on time. Yes, of course.

[Blair Saki]

She saw your L in the door living area.

[Stavros Halkias]

This is crazy.

[Blair Saki]

What did she see? I don't Know who could have been there?

[Stavros Halkias]

I don't think she saw anything.

[Eldest]

That's what she found. I think she just felt like they were spying on her cuz they didn't trust her or something like that's first.

[Stavros Halkias]

Of all that's crazy.

[Blair Saki]

Look, everyone is allowed to have diddy cameras, okay. I mean what is like what's the problem here?

[Stavros Halkias]

I agree. Unless. Unless they're charging you rent. Rent. You get to pay for the you she. If your mom wants to watch you, she can't charge you rent. Okay? This is her. I hate his mother. So far I think she's one of the fucking biggest dumbass characters we've had of about a call in show a nosy clearly snooping clearly gets caught goes on the offensive because she feels guilty. That's what that whole thing about spying. She doesn't fucking actually care. It's like also it's their room. Are they living there or are they not living there? They should have their own space. And then this is some European. But it's like charging your kids rent. Are you. That's despicable. Charging your kid to make making your kids sign a lease. What the are we talking about here? So anyway let's finish it up unless you have anything but like I feel.

[Blair Saki]

Like this is one of those situations and maybe you know this where it's like the boy mom just cannot deal with the the boy her son like moving on and having a relationship that she just feels left out.

[Stavros Halkias]

I mean it could be but my mom's liked my girlfriends more than me to be honest with you. So I don't. I don't so I don't know if that's the case a little sweetie P. She is great. That's true. But that there's definitely something there is a toxic version of what you're discussing for sure that's kind of like the flip side of the mom who competes with her dog daughter the like overly protective mind.

[Blair Saki]

I feel like that's what this is like. Like she's just like I feel abandoned. So I'm gonna make you your life with your girlfriend Hal.

[Stavros Halkias]

She could just be a Snoopy though is what it I mean but what.

[Blair Saki]

Is she looking for? I wonder.

[Stavros Halkias]

Just I know plenty of busy bodies like this I have there I know plenty of plenty of I have some friends moms that are like this for sure. But let's finish this call and then we'll get into it to have all.

[Caller 2]

Guests approved our living area and the like little spiteful thing was she said we can't have any recording devices of any kind.

[Stavros Halkias]

I mean, this is crazy.

[Caller 2]

So like, I don't know, like it just. Like it tripped my girlfriend out, tripped me out. Like our relationships already rocky because I'm a scumbag piece of shit and did a whole bunch of shitty stuff that, you know, we've been working through that.

[Stavros Halkias]

Okay. And there, that's the other part of it. And maybe that. Maybe that's a little bit of the missing context. Maybe that's a little bit of the missing context here. Yeah. Yeah, maybe. Yeah. The camera. I mean, the camera is annoying. And if you're a scumbag, is your girlfriend a scumbag and is your mom just kind of. And it's like, yeah, they're making a sign, a lease. They said they're going to call. They said if they find the appliances ripped out of the wall and pawned, they're gonna make us pay for it. We're not allowed to have any crack in the house.

[Blair Saki]

God. My mom's a.

[Stavros Halkias]

My mom's being a. Okay, so that's an interesting. Let's fit. Let's see if he has any more. Any more interesting details for us.

[Caller 2]

My girlfriend out tripped me out. Like our relationship's already rocky because I'm a scumbag piece of. Did a whole bunch of shitty stuff that, you know, been working through that. And now like moving back in with my parents six year relationship, it feels like this is just like a fucking death knell waiting to happen. What should we do?

[Stavros Halkias]

Should we.

[Caller 2]

Should we find somewhere else to fucking live? Like, even though we've already built furniture down in the area that we're going to be living and like loop stuff over there or should we just like, we're getting a really good deal on the price. Should we just buy, bite the bullet and try to stack money? I really don't know what to do. Yeah, my family's crazy.

[Stavros Halkias]

Thank you.

[Caller 2]

Love you.

[Stavros Halkias]

Bye.

[Blair Saki]

Get out of there, scummy.

[Stavros Halkias]

Yeah, I mean, there's no way this is gonna work if you're at your parents house. I mean, the odds of this relationship surviving in general, low, very low. But it ain't gonna. And like, dude, if it means having to work in a couple extra shifts for you to make up for fingering someone at a tattoo parlor or whatever the. You did, like, you can't. Your mom. This is a bad setup. This is a horrible setup and we don't even know all of it. So we don't know. We don't have all the information. But there's clearly so much going on here. And if you feel uncomfortable in your home, it's like, especially when it's a parent dynamic, like, you're better off living somewhere shittier for the same money and, like, feeling like you're an adult with some autonomy than you are. And it would. It would be much different if you're. If your family was supportive. Right. Like, then it sounds like maybe you could use that. You could use a little like. But that's not the case. That's not the hand you were dealt. And I think somebody going through your. And then turning it on you is crazy. And I'm sure you probably did something up that your mom. Mom was able to, like, leverage for. To get out of trouble or whatever. I'm also a little. I'm unclear if by. By hearing it more, it sounds like the scumbag happened in his relationship, not necessarily to him and his parents.

[Blair Saki]

Yeah.

[Stavros Halkias]

So that if that's the case, then you just need to make this right for your girl. Like, if you're already, like, convincing somebody to move in with their parents because it's too expensive and you're a piece of. Is like, I don't know, man. That's a lot. That's. That's a lot to this girl's life.

[Blair Saki]

Sounds like America Ninja warrior.

[Stavros Halkias]

Yeah. For real. And. And like, I don't know what the going on with her. Her life must be even worse than yours or. She's a really nice person. I don't know. Six years is a lot.

[Blair Saki]

That's so long. I'm also wondering how long I. I have. Like, I'm like, is this guy, like, 39 or 20? Hill?

[Stavros Halkias]

True.

[Blair Saki]

I like, the age matters.

[Stavros Halkias]

You're right here. I mean, if they've been together six years, he's probably at least, you know.

[Eldest]

At least mid 20s or whatever.

[Stavros Halkias]

Mid 20s at the earliest. Right.

[Eldest]

It's a thing, like, everything he's saying about his mom, like, is. He's Right. And she is annoying and being, like, out of line. But it's like, at a certain point, you're like an adult man who's like, my mom's being unfair.

[Stavros Halkias]

Right. That's true.

[Eldest]

And it's like, you know, get out of there, man. Yeah. You just.

[Stavros Halkias]

That's a good point, Elder.

[Eldest]

It's like, that's the reason you want to move out of your childhood home and not live with your parents.

[Stavros Halkias]

Yeah.

[Eldest]

You know, even when you're an adult, parents are annoying and you can, like.

[Stavros Halkias]

Stop telling me what to do and you regress too.

[Eldest]

Yeah, you regress in like a couple weeks and just feel like a teenager, like no matter what age you are. So that's why you pay to like move the out and just.

[Stavros Halkias]

And by the way, getting a good price. This is again, gringo right here, brother. I, the only way I would consider is if you didn't have to pay them rent. Like, that's, I, I, I'm, again, I mean, this is some old world, but it's like, I can't believe someone's charging their kid rent. Unless again, he's like, you know, stolen from them and they're trying to teach him responsibility. But anyway, I, I, this does not feel like something that can work if you stay at your, at your house. Now, if the relationship goes tits up and you want to stay home and regress and save money personally, that's one thing, but I don't think you can put your, you can subject your girlfriend through this, especially if you've done some other.

[Blair Saki]

I think you should put cameras all around the house and see what happens.

[Stavros Halkias]

Yeah, you should get. Honestly, that would be funny.

[Blair Saki]

Truman show this. I think double down could be a good idea.

[Stavros Halkias]

Yeah, you and by the way, you weren't trying to hide them. They make really easy to hide cameras now.

[Blair Saki]

Yeah. Take money for rent and just spend it on a new set of cameras. I think get creative, you know, I think really put them everywhere. Get, get a whole control room.

[Stavros Halkias]

You should move out and put the cameras in.

[Blair Saki]

That's even better.

[Stavros Halkias]

And that way you and can watch.

[Eldest]

And make your mom the subject of like a Big Brother type YouTube stream without her consent.

[Stavros Halkias]

Yeah. Yep.

[Blair Saki]

Say, say Venmo me or this is going on Twitter right now. Ever heard of YouTube, Mom?

[Stavros Halkias]

Ever heard of it? Well, you're going to be all over calling your friend Diane A and she's going to tell everybody else. All right, eldest, what else?

[Blair Saki]

Guys, I have to pee so bad. Do you care if I pee?

[Stavros Halkias]

Any bus, you can go pee.

[Blair Saki]

Okay.

[Stavros Halkias]

Yeah. Oh.

[Blair Saki]

Ow. It hurts.

[Stavros Halkias]

You take a pee break.

[Blair Saki]

Ow. Ow, ow.

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[Caller 1]

Plan B Thav Eldest and guest. Feel free to play this on the Patreon if it's worth your time. My question is kind of dumb in general, but how do you deal with getting older? I'm 28 and I feel like it's a good age because I'm not young and stupid anymore. I've made a lot of my youthful mistakes and I've still got potential and like room to grow, but I'm also not able to be young and stupid anymore. So, like, I'll Never be a 22 year old student again burning the midnight oil. I'll never be 19, making out with everyone at the club and I feel like I didn't get into enough shenanigans or trouble when I was like. I feel like I've just played it too safe and been too boring and I feel like life is moving too fast now and it's getting away from me. I have boxes to check off that I've checked off a lot already. So I've got a mortgage, I've got a fiance, pets, a job and friends. But I feel like I've wasted potential and I could be doing better or having more fun.

[Blair Saki]

Get on that pole, babe.

[Caller 1]

Basically, I just want A life I can tell stories about. And I guess I'm just scared of letting life pass me by and realizing that eventually I'll have more mediocre memories than future left in me.

[Blair Saki]

Oh, my God.

[Caller 1]

So how do you grapple with that and make sure you're living life well enough that you can say goodbye to your twenties without being sad about it? Thanks.

[Stavros Halkias]

I mean, this is age old. Everybody goes through this, right. I definitely have been thinking about. I mean, I'm older than this. I'm older. Blair just graduated college.

[Blair Saki]

I just graduated.

[Stavros Halkias]

She just got spiked in the face. She just got spiked in the face by. What was her name? Eldest.

[Blair Saki]

We forgot Eldest.

[Eldest]

Kelly something.

[Stavros Halkias]

Kelly Glass.

[Blair Saki]

Yeah, Kelly whatever.

[Eldest]

Kim Glass.

[Stavros Halkias]

Kim Glass. But I mean, I definitely. I legit. Have been struggling with these thoughts. Yeah. I'm 35, so a little. You're. You're still. You're a. You're a baby. Baby. Seven. You got seven prime youth years. But there is a moment where you just have to realize there is no more. When I grow up.

[Blair Saki]

Yeah.

[Stavros Halkias]

You know what I mean? Like, that's very powerful. Potential is one of the best things in the world.

[Blair Saki]

Right.

[Stavros Halkias]

Because it's all. You never. You don't have to do. It's just all these limitless possibilities.

[Blair Saki]

Yeah. You're just like, oh, my God, there's so many things that could happen so many different ways. Days past.

[Stavros Halkias]

Yeah. Yeah. And I guess that's theoretic, but that's not even true. That's not. You can't be all those things. You can, you know, you kind of. Realistically, you have to narrow it down to some extent. And also there's realizing, like, all right, there's no more. When I grow up, time is finite. Right. Like, we just all have to make that switch over from I'm gonna live forever to, well, I am going to die. Like, and it's not going to be tomorrow. But you do you feel that realization, and it's depressing. And you're in stage one of that, right. You're in stage one of like, oh, I'm not in. I'm not immortal anymore. Which is how you feel when you're 20, whatever. Right.

[Blair Saki]

But I feel like you have everything it sounds like that everybody wants. So I'm wondering, are you depressed or do we just need, like, a new hobby or, like, something to show, shake things up? Because it sounds like on paper, like you said, you got everything going pretty well.

[Stavros Halkias]

Yeah. And I think. I also think it's pretty. It is. There is like, some human Nature to the grass is always greener.

[Blair Saki]

Yes.

[Stavros Halkias]

You know, I feel like my, like, in some ways I've way surpassed what I thought was possible in my life. Right. Like, truly. But like I. And it's like crazy crazy. But then it's like none of that stuff matters if I also feel like I'm really behind on the, like, on the family side of things. On the like. And not just like starting my own family, but like, I don't have that many close relationships day to day. Or I didn't because I was just too busy working. And it's like there's just trade offs and everything. And what you're going through is normal. That's an important thing to realize. Everybody has that thought. And a thing that's kind of freeing to me as I get older is like nobody feels the age they are. Yes, everyone. What if you're 28? You're like, how can I be 28? I'm 25.

[Blair Saki]

I was just talking to Rosebud about this before I left and I was like, I just wish I had more time. And she's like, you're so young.

[Stavros Halkias]

And every. And everyone thinks that if they're 70, they're like, I feel 60. If you're 35. I feel like I'm in my, you know, early 30s. Like, no one believes that they're old. No, this, they, this is the, the traditional human experience, I think. And it's also important to realize, like, some of those feelings are fleeting. Right. The feeling of being like, I haven't had a crazy enough life. It's like, you know, whatever. Like, that sounds cool. Being like going out to, you know, having an all nighter and going on a bender sounds fun. But it's like you go, you do it and you're like, my body hurts. Yeah, this isn't as good as it used to be. I remember one time me and my friend went to Greece. We had a specific Greek trip when we were like 20 and we had a blast. We went to like an, you know, an island. We were like, oh, this was so sick. We were just like getting drunk all night and it was awesome. And then like six years later, we kind of went back. We were like, dude, that place was so fun. Let's go back. And you go back and you're like, oh, it was fun when we were 20. Yeah, it's all 19 and to 23 now. We're kind now we feel old. Like 100 part of life just keeps moving. Right. And you can't go back and yeah, Some things you didn't do as well as much as you wanted. Some things you did better than you thought. Right. Everything's a trade off. You know, maybe you didn't. You make out with as many strangers in a club as you'd like, but you have, you have other stuff that's better.

[Blair Saki]

I'm a big action guy, so I feel like if you're having these feelings enough that you're calling in the shadow show, like, why not just make a list of 10 things you want to do and just do it like, okay, I want to go do mushrooms, like for a night with my friends and my fiance. I want to skydive. I want to go to Big Sur. I want to go. Yeah. And just like shake it up.

[Stavros Halkias]

Is California over here. Even her, even her dream, her outlandish dreams are doing mushrooms and going to big sir man.

[Blair Saki]

Woman with a mortgage.

[Stavros Halkias]

Getting a Cali style burrito.

[Blair Saki]

Go shred some nice.

[Stavros Halkias]

But no, you are right in that like, you, like, you have a lot of good shit going for you. And what you said earlier to our caller that you, you've made some of those mistakes, you're not young and dumb anymore more. And yeah, you're right, you're not. You're just not as young. That's over. You just have to mourn whatever's, whatever's gone, but also realize you have such an opportunity. You are young and. But it is important. You could fast forward 10 years and your fears could be realized. Right. You could just go through life and just go through the motions. So I think what Blair said is very important. What are the things that could spice it up for you? Like, you know, like going on it. Yeah. Traveling to whatever, whether it's California or somewhere else, like going on a trip, having these experiences. You know, I think we took a. You went, we. You went to Albania. I went to Greece. We met, we met up. We went to my cousin's wedding. We were on that boat. Like, that's a movie. We really had an ins. That was an insane trip. That was like a super fun trip. And, and you know, you have to decide what you want. Like when there's family stuff going on from. Like, for me, it's like I want to be able to work, I want to organize my life in a way that I can work really hard, but then I can also take time off and be there and like not miss important family milestones. Right. And I think for you, you're just settling into like kind of more or less a general rhythm of your life. That's also the scary thing. When you go from college age and early 20s to 28, fiance, mortgage. You do here. Here's something that is both scary and kind of liberating. You kind of know what your life is going to look like.

[Blair Saki]

Yeah.

[Stavros Halkias]

For the next 10 years. And that's the first time you can ever say that at 28. Right. And that is a little scary. That does make you feel both old and accomplished and also just old. Right.

[Blair Saki]

Yeah.

[Stavros Halkias]

But how are you going to disrupt that? Use the stability that that brings you as a positive and make sure you break up the monotony. That's the negative as much as possible. And I think if you do that, you're in a great position. Sounds like you've accomplished a lot of stuff. And, like, you can get a lot more firsts, you know, and a lot more things where you feel kind of like you're telling stories and doing stuff. Like, you can do that. Use the stability of your life as, like, a positive. Break up the monotony of it and just like. But it will take a little work the way you can just kind of live life in your teens and something crazy happens that's over because you have fucking responsibilities now. So, yeah, you might have to plan a sick European vacation, but guess what? You get to go on it, too.

[Blair Saki]

You can do that.

[Stavros Halkias]

And now you have the money to do it. Right.

[Blair Saki]

I think there's a natural on. We, like, sometimes happens with stability. And if you didn't have a crazy. Yeah, because it seems like you accomplished a lot of, like, these life markers. Pretty young mortgage, fiance, pets, like, good job, all this stuff. And if you didn't do. If you didn't feel like you got to be wild when you were younger. Like, now you have the means to do the things that you want to do. And also, life is short. Like, you have to think. I had a therapist say once, like, your happiness is your own responsibility, which seems weighty, but it's like you have to figure out what makes you happy and do it. Because life is short.

[Stavros Halkias]

Yeah. Yeah. So there you go, little buddy. We're rooting for you.

[Blair Saki]

Just getting. We just some modern philosophy.

[Stavros Halkias]

That's this. I am a philosopher. I'm such a good philosopher. Even. Even those around me become smarter just by proxy.

[Blair Saki]

Totally. I just got so much smarter.

[Stavros Halkias]

Yeah, you're gonna have a headache. You're gonna leave the studio. You're gonna be like, oh, I just did all my thinking for two weeks.

[Blair Saki]

Brain just goes so much bigger.

[Stavros Halkias]

Someone give me an al pastor Taco, quick.

[Blair Saki]

God, I love an al pastor taco. I put down seven without.

[Stavros Halkias]

So good.

[Blair Saki]

I love al pastor.

[Stavros Halkias]

All right, eldest, what do we got?

[Caller 1]

Hi, Sa. So I'm having this problem right now where I've kind of been taught to use witchcraft.

[Blair Saki]

Oh, yes, here we go.

[Caller 1]

It was fine cards and like that.

[Stavros Halkias]

Like, wow, dude, you should have put this in the cheek zone.

[Caller 1]

So I'm having this problem right now where I've kind of been taught to use witchcraft since I was little. And it was fine, like just tarot cards and like that, like normal, nothing unusual. I'm like, okay, this is probably fake. But then when I started dating people, if someone really fucked me over, my mom would like, ask for an article of their clothing and then hex them. And then usually something with really bad would happen. Like this one guy tore his groin skiing. The next day, another guy, like, crashed his Pontiac.

[Blair Saki]

You made him crash his Pontiac.

[Caller 1]

So then I kind of forgot about it. Went to college, did it to this guy that cheated on me. He got scabies the next day, which was crazy. Resurrected like some 1800. And then the only other time I've personally hacked anyone was my ex boyfriend. And the next day there were hundreds, like, I'm talking hundreds, possibly even thousands of dead bees, like, so cool. All over the basement where I did the hex. It was actually insane. There were eyewitnesses to this. I swear in my life, it was crazy. Craziest thing that's ever happened. So the problem in having that is I don't know if I should, like, be a good witch or a bad witch, because I think I could be a bad witch for good. And my issue right now is my best friend has a roommate who's really, really, like, shitty to him. And I want to hex the roommate and I have one of his socks, but I'm afraid something really bad is going to happen to him. And I'm trying to be a force for, like, positivity in the world, but also, if I'm just redelivering people's karma to them, is I'm not making the world a better place.

[Stavros Halkias]

Right? There was an episode of My Name is Earl about this.

[Blair Saki]

There's actually. It's funny that you bring this up. There's an episode of Bosch.

[Stavros Halkias]

That's right. No, no. Bosh does not deal with the occult. Bosh. It's all just good detective work and. And just gumption that gets Bosh to solve his cases.

[Blair Saki]

Wow, I love that you are being sought out for this ethical dilemma. From 1729.

[Eldest]

Yeah.

[Stavros Halkias]

I mean, this. This is crazy. Obviously. And this is insane that you're saying this. Okay, here. Here's my question. If you really think this is real, right. You can't get a little bit of like a deeper education in like, it's all like, you just do the hex and then you just don't know the level of. Cuz like, you know, if the roommate gets, like I said, food poisoning or something, like really bad food poisoning, that's one thing. But if they get their leg amputated. Yeah. If they're Pontiac, it's like, how shitty is this roommate being? I think if you have these, you need educate.

[Blair Saki]

You need to get to a platform nine and three quarters quick.

[Stavros Halkias]

Yeah. You really.

[Blair Saki]

Somebody gets hurt, she might.

[Stavros Halkias]

She probably hates that. She's like, it's not. Not like that. It's not. That's how Hollywood says it is. No one's British. What the. So here's.

[Eldest]

Here's.

[Stavros Halkias]

Can you do a po. What's a positive spell?

[Eldest]

That's.

[Stavros Halkias]

That exist?

[Eldest]

That's what I was gonna say. Like, are you. How confident are you that you're in control of these powers and it's not just a coincidence? And the way to try would be like, okay, what if you have someone's article of clothing and. Yeah. Have you ever tried like a positive thing? Had something good happen to a person who. Some good karma redelivered to them? Because if it's all just bad stuff.

[Stavros Halkias]

Right.

[Eldest]

It's like, how are you doing the hexes? How deliberate is it?

[Stavros Halkias]

Yeah. Did your mom cut the break line of witches? True.

[Blair Saki]

But I also. And this is my take. And we have discussed this a lot.

[Stavros Halkias]

Please.

[Blair Saki]

But I. I don't think that revenge is ever the answer. I think it. Because in my personal opinion, it just comes back to you harder.

[Stavros Halkias]

Right?

[Blair Saki]

Like, I don't think.

[Stavros Halkias]

What if there's an even more talented witch? That hex is you? Yeah.

[Blair Saki]

There's even more bees. No, I. I personally don't think. And I get that. I. I get that impulse because I'm very protective of my loved ones. Like, you know, loyalty to the death. But I. I don't think that you should be doing any harm. They do no harm.

[Stavros Halkias]

Sure.

[Blair Saki]

It's like a Hippocratic oath.

[Stavros Halkias]

Well, she's not a die doctor, right? That's true.

[Blair Saki]

They were the only doctors.

[Stavros Halkias]

That is true. You could only get treated by a witch.

[Blair Saki]

But they didn't want. They didn't want women to have any way of making money. So they had to hang them all.

[Stavros Halkias]

Makes sense to me.

[Blair Saki]

Yeah.

[Stavros Halkias]

So I would say. Yeah, I would. I would honestly flip this. Right. Do a couple positive spells. Let's see how that works. Works. Can you. Can you. Can you do a. Can you cast an orb of protection around your friend against the roommate? Can you make their life better?

[Blair Saki]

Beautiful.

[Stavros Halkias]

You know what I mean? Like, what are we talking about here? Why is it only hexes? I'm, you know, I'm kill them with.

[Blair Saki]

Kindness, but don't really kill them since.

[Stavros Halkias]

Yeah.

[Blair Saki]

That seems to be a concern.

[Stavros Halkias]

And like. And if. And it's like, if you really want to try. Like, how can we get her somewhere when somebody really evils socks.

[Blair Saki]

Yeah. Or you know what? And it sounds like you don't have much control over this. Which to Sob's point, like, maybe we could look into some education or something. But maybe you could make your magic have sort of a mischievous turn so it's more fun and silly.

[Stavros Halkias]

Right.

[Blair Saki]

Versus sinister.

[Stavros Halkias]

Right.

[Blair Saki]

You know, maybe you could just like, you know, all of a sudden, I don't know, someone gets like wings for a day or something.

[Stavros Halkias]

Wings.

[Blair Saki]

And they're like, what the are these?

[Stavros Halkias]

I think that's too powerful. She doesn't have wing magic.

[Blair Saki]

Oh, all right. Okay. Fair.

[Stavros Halkias]

You know, like that'd be cool. As if she was like. And yeah, wings. But I like what you're thinking.

[Blair Saki]

I got really carried away because I love witches and magic.

[Stavros Halkias]

Sure. Well, what if it's something like every time they. They hiccup, a little bubble coming comes out.

[Blair Saki]

Yeah. Or their voice starts saying just. You make them talk. Like a helium balloon. Yeah.

[Stavros Halkias]

Yep. That's good.

[Blair Saki]

Really cool.

[Stavros Halkias]

How about this? Or it looks like they're wearing lip gloss, but they don't see it. And everyone who asks them, they're like, hey, are you wearing lip gloss? They're like, no, I don't.

[Blair Saki]

I'm not wearing.

[Stavros Halkias]

Why does everybody keep asking me that? That's kind of funny.

[Blair Saki]

That's funny.

[Stavros Halkias]

You know, now we're getting somewhere. We're cooking. We're starting to cook stuff up.

[Eldest]

Make them step in some dog poop or something while they're out and about.

[Stavros Halkias]

Classic. Classic.

[Blair Saki]

Oh, that's a good one.

[Stavros Halkias]

Dog classic.

[Blair Saki]

Oh, make their shoelaces tie together cartoon. Cartoon style.

[Stavros Halkias]

Yep. You know, a bird sits on them three times in one day.

[Blair Saki]

Yeah.

[Stavros Halkias]

Cuz even two, you could be like, well, that's weird. Bad luck. But three, you're like, you start going crazy.

[Blair Saki]

Someone's out to get me. I did something bad. This man. Retribution.

[Stavros Halkias]

Yep.

[Blair Saki]

I had actually a. When I was in. I don't know, I was doing like rooster D feathers or something. And I was in the hotel and it was actually a cute hotel, but someone like every morning the maintenance people would bring a leaf blower in the hallway, in the hallway outside the door. And I was like. I was like, oh, no, this is specific to me. Yeah, this is my. Like, this is insanity. What time?

[Stavros Halkias]

Time.

[Blair Saki]

Like early brutal. And I would be like, oh, this is my number one thing that someone.

[Stavros Halkias]

Could do to me to drive me insane.

[Blair Saki]

To make me like, this is my Guantanamo Bay, you know? And. And I was like, oh, I. I had that thought. I was like, this is a specific karmic wrench.

[Stavros Halkias]

Yeah. Yeah. Maybe you are a bad person.

[Blair Saki]

Maybe.

[Stavros Halkias]

Next question. Eldest. Good luck out there, witch.

[Blair Saki]

Good luck, witch.

[Stavros Halkias]

Can you cast a 2 inch growth spell? You know what I'm saying? I'm not greedy. Just give me two extra inches. That's all I need.

[Blair Saki]

I would also love a pair of fake cans with no breast implant illness.

[Stavros Halkias]

That'd be cool. Yeah. Yeah. Just. Now that's a power. Making tits big. If that's true.

[Blair Saki]

Powers for good, babe.

[Stavros Halkias]

If that's. If that's true, I'm going to. I'm going to wizard school.

[Blair Saki]

I would love to go to.

[Stavros Halkias]

I'm just making big cans all across America, like doctor Strange. I'm making tits juicy all across the usa.

[Blair Saki]

This is. This is.

[Stavros Halkias]

All right, that's good. That's very interesting.

[Blair Saki]

Very interesting.

[Stavros Halkias]

I'd love.

[Blair Saki]

Incredible.

[Stavros Halkias]

I'd love to do so. I. I could feel it. Hold on, let's see. Can I make your tits big? Anything? Nothing. I'm pretty tired. I'll wake up tomorrow, leave an article of your clothing. I'll try. Leave your socks. I'll try. And your feet get huge.

[Blair Saki]

Huge feet would be devastating.

[Stavros Halkias]

You know the Peggy Hill feet.

[Blair Saki]

Oh my God.

[Stavros Halkias]

Yeah, that's tough.

[Blair Saki]

Feels like you're wearing a couple fins, you know?

[Stavros Halkias]

Yeah, of course. I.

[Blair Saki]

Body surfing.

[Stavros Halkias]

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[Caller 3]

Hey Savi. Hope you're doing well. Long time fan.

[Stavros Halkias]

Thank you my friend.

[Caller 3]

Hope you are kicking it as always and Eldest is there and esteemed guest. Hello. I hope you are also doing well.

[Caller 2]

Thank you.

[Caller 3]

I wanted to reach out and get some advice from you basically relating to date as per the usual. I am recently sober.

[Stavros Halkias]

First nice time.

[Caller 3]

I've been sober for this long in quite a while. I am just about at a month now. So I have been adjusting to sober life and I've been doing pretty well about it. I'm able to like go to bars and concerts and stuff and still have a good time.

[Stavros Halkias]

I am. Dude, in a month this man has such a good social life.

[Caller 3]

My biggest issue is that I don't want to look like a creep when I match with people online. And then they're like, oh, you don't want to drink, but we're going to meet up for drinks and you know the implication they're not being very good. Basically I've just been like getting asked like, hey, let's go out for drinks. Just like catch up or meet up or whatever at a bar. And I have to say like, hey, you know, I don't really drink but, like, you're welcome to still do it. And it's like, that comes off as kind of weird. There's someone who, you know, for instance, had matched with me, and they were like, let's meet up for drinks. And I was like, hey, just so you know, I don't really drink, but we can still meet up at a bar or something. And they were like, and this is like 10:00 at night, so nothing else was open. And they were like, yeah.

[Stavros Halkias]

I mean, I don't know.

[Caller 3]

That's kind of weird. And then they, like, later told me that they were concerned about their safety, which, like, they're still talking to me. I don't know what that's about. That might just be an individual thing.

[Stavros Halkias]

But it's just your vibe.

[Caller 3]

Give me some advice stuff. How do I not come off as a creep just because I'm sober? What do I tell women on the first day? You know, when do I tell them that I'm. I'm sober? What do I do? Thanks a lot. Stop. I appreciate you and your guest and your lb. Thanks a lot. And if you could make mine the twisted question of the week, I would appreciate.

[Stavros Halkias]

Relax. It's not. First of all, it's not that twisted, so. Okay. I have some. I mean, I think a lot of this is in our friend's head here. I think he's.

[Blair Saki]

It's all in.

[Stavros Halkias]

I think it's all in your head. I think, like, one person being, like, concerned about, like, I do know there is a general thing where it is. It is a little weird in that. That it's a difference from the norm. But if any person with fucking half a brain in their head thinks about it for a second, they'll be like, oh, he's sober. He can have a fucking tonic water while I have a beer. And it's no big deal.

[Blair Saki]

Yeah. Like, when I go on first dates at my age now, usually because they're trying to be nice, they're, like, asked to go to dinner. And I'm like, but we don't know each other and dinner is too big of a commitment. Absolutely. I say, let's get a drink. And sometimes, like, I don't really drink very much anymore, so, like, I just have, like one drink or whatever. And a lot of times guys will be like, I don't drink. But it's just like. It's not about the drink.

[Stavros Halkias]

It's not about the drink.

[Blair Saki]

It's just. It's just like a casual nighttime.

[Stavros Halkias]

Yeah.

[Blair Saki]

Thing. But I don't think anything of it if a guy says they're sober.

[Stavros Halkias]

No, but maybe. But also, we know a lot of comics, a lot of people in our lives. Yeah. I mean, everyone gets sober that does comedy one way or another.

[Blair Saki]

Yeah.

[Eldest]

I mean, I remember doing this when I went.

[Stavros Halkias]

I was just gonna ask because you had a sober year.

[Eldest]

Yeah.

[Stavros Halkias]

And you were still. You were an active bachelor on the scene.

[Eldest]

Yeah. And I was like, it. It wasn't even, like, old. It was like when I was like, 27, you know, and you.

[Stavros Halkias]

Damn. That was that long ago.

[Eldest]

When was that? Yeah, it must have been like.

[Stavros Halkias]

It's crazy.

[Eldest]

Seven years ago. 27 or 28.

[Blair Saki]

But oh, my God, it's like all we do now.

[Stavros Halkias]

It's. That's the up thing of literally having eldest in my life since I was five years old is that we have memories that are decades old.

[Blair Saki]

Yeah.

[Stavros Halkias]

And what he's describ his sober year. I guess I'm realizing it. You literally met your wife.

[Eldest]

Yeah.

[Stavros Halkias]

Your first date was during that. So it must have been a while ago. But in my head, I'm like, oh, yeah, El, this is sober year. That. What was that, like three, four years ago? What was that right before the pandemic? And it's like, no, that was not eight, seven years ago.

[Eldest]

I can't believe it's that long ago.

[Blair Saki]

Wow.

[Eldest]

Yeah. But I mean, I did it, and it was honestly, like, super easy. Like, I never. People were like, oh, okay, cool. And he needs to think of it as, like, you know, it's not just for them. It's like a screening process for you. So you don't, like, go and waste your time.

[Stavros Halkias]

Absolutely.

[Eldest]

You know, you can go to a bar and just have a drink and then, like, you don't want to, like, freak someone out by springing this on them without, like, their. Any prior knowledge. And if they do think it's weird, they can just, like, be like, yeah, I don't know. Not for me. And just like, you know, for sure. So you. So you don't waste your time too.

[Blair Saki]

Yeah, totally.

[Stavros Halkias]

That's a great point.

[Blair Saki]

Judging you, accepting you for who you are.

[Stavros Halkias]

Yeah. Imagine a woman being like, you don't fucking drink pussy. You're like, all right, well, I'll see you later. Honestly, you are probably looking swirly now. I mean, any woman who would think you're a bitch for not drinking, probably pretty good pussy, to be honest. She's probably insane. She probably fuds good. But your life would be worse off for having her in it. So, yes, it's a Good screening process. And truly any, like, put yourself in flip the situation. If a woman was like, hey, I'm newly sober. I don't really drink. I'm just gonna get a Sprite. Would you be like, no, you wouldn't give a fuck. You'd be like, what? But it's gonna be harder to fuck you now. But if you're drunk, you might me like some.

[Blair Saki]

It sounds like some girl freaked him out, like, saying something about safety. And it's like, also maybe because the first day was like, spur the moment. 10:00pm I think if you're asking someone to go on like a 7pm drink at like a nice bar, no one's gonna say anything. They're not gonna be afraid of you because you're not blasted.

[Stavros Halkias]

Yeah. Also, it's like, what, you want the guy, like, wasted.

[Blair Saki]

Yeah.

[Stavros Halkias]

Anyway, whatever. That. That lady's dumb. But yeah, dude, you're fine. You're a little in your head. It's a month in. We've all been there where it's like we're so much more self conscious about something than you know. Then like, I even sort of like, I've been. I'm taking a sober year. In the first couple months. I felt kind of weird just even doing social stuff and like, you know, whatever, but it doesn't matter.

[Blair Saki]

You're like, oh, this person's actually boring.

[Stavros Halkias]

I'm like, oh, this sucks. That legit. I'm like, I'm not stoned as I'm not high. I'm not high. I'm not drunk. What do you got something nice to go out on?

[Blair Saki]

You sound like an angel. Good luck. You're doing great.

[Stavros Halkias]

Good luck, little buddy. He's probably relapsed by now, but if you haven't, stick to it. And even if you have, get back on the horse or off it. I. I don't really understand which way that works. What's up, St? What's up, eldest?

[Caller 2]

What's up if there's a guest. How you doing, guest?

[Blair Saki]

Hello.

[Stavros Halkias]

Well, love the show.

[Caller 2]

Been listening for a long time.

[Stavros Halkias]

Thank you.

[Caller 2]

Dude, I have a question. I don't think you'll get to it in the time that I need it.

[Stavros Halkias]

But I figured I'd ask anyway for the better. It's like plan a tree. Even when you're 60, you know what I mean? Future generations will sit in the shade of this question. Go ahead, eldest.

[Caller 2]

At what point in a relationship or like a situation do you think, like, if you want to break up someone, at what point do you, like, owe Them the in person for a breakup.

[Stavros Halkias]

You know, like I've been with them six years.

[Caller 2]

No longer like it's a text. No longer acceptable. Is it a matter of time you've.

[Stavros Halkias]

Been with this person?

[Caller 2]

Is it like a milestone thing like you versus you haven't but you better family now.

[Stavros Halkias]

Yo, her in person family situation really.

[Blair Saki]

Wants to dust this.

[Stavros Halkias]

He's like, what you biodegradable?

[Blair Saki]

Give me the get.

[Stavros Halkias]

Give me the go. Give me the green light, please.

[Eldest]

She's only had one abortion and that was. That was, you know, just a week or two ago.

[Stavros Halkias]

How long after. Okay.

[Caller 2]

Go through the whole like in person song and dance. I don't feel like this current situation shift that I want to end really warrants all that. But also I'm a. I don't really feel like.

[Stavros Halkias]

Right. Looking someone in the eye. That's what it is. Breaking their heart. Let's relax.

[Caller 2]

Help me out. I just should skull text or like. No.

[Stavros Halkias]

Where's the barrier? Okay, so I mean break her heart's hilarious. That's number one. Couple things going on here. You won't even tell us what's going for sure you need to see her in person because you won't tell us and you're just hoping like why didn't you tell us your situation so we could fucking judge it? I mean it really is a case by case basis. Right? Like if you could say it's length of time. But let's say you've hook. You're hooking up with somebody and you see them like once a month.

[Blair Saki]

Yeah. Versus like every night.

[Stavros Halkias]

You know what I mean? Like it just. It really. It really just depends on the situation. Like I certainly have like just seen people over a weirdly long period of time. But we've made you like met up like six times over like a year and a half or you know what I mean? Or something like that.

[Blair Saki]

Met up means.

[Stavros Halkias]

You know what I mean? Like went out, whatever got sucked each other off, whatever it is. But like so it just depends on each specific circumstance. Like you. The fact that you even threw out met their family is so insane. Because that's not what it. That is a relationship. Like there's nothing. There's no. Oh, oh, yeah. Hey, mom, this is the girl I fuck every. Every six weeks. My mom's not meeting those people. Your parents shouldn't meet those people. Yeah, I mean, I don't know. I mean it really just is a case by you fully are a coward. I can hear it in your voice and you don't Want to. You just want to be able to kind of weasel your way out now.

[Blair Saki]

He's already got the text in the drafts.

[Stavros Halkias]

Yeah, yeah, absolutely.

[Blair Saki]

He's just waiting for the signal to press.

[Stavros Halkias]

But it also depends on. It depends on the, like, how serious it was or have you had any conversations? Like, if you, at the start of it were like, hey, I'm not looking for something serious, like, you know, I. Like, we have fun together. If that's. If that doesn't work for you, I totally get it. And if they say yes, don't worry, that works for me. You could probably text your way out of that because they know the rules of engagement, right?

[Blair Saki]

Then, like, everyone's on the same page and like, gauging and communicating the whole way. What happens in those situationships is when people don't do that and then they're doing all relationship stuff, right? But someone, like, can't commit, even though they're like, treating that person like a full partner.

[Stavros Halkias]

And listen, if you can't commit, that's fine, but if that's what you're doing, then, yes, you should break up with them in person, you know, then you've treated it like a relationship. You have to get out of it like a relationship. So that's our general rule of thumb. We don't know your specifics. Again, I am guessing fully. You've, like, you've probably like, spent the night at her house four times in a row or some. Something insane. You've probably gone on a vacation with her.

[Blair Saki]

You guys share a bank account.

[Stavros Halkias]

Yeah, I mean, you know, some of our real estate holdings are together, but I can have the money guy figure that out and I could just text her, so. So, yeah, that's. I would say that's the general rule of thumb. Even though it's really just case by case, brother. And I'm willing to bet because you wouldn't describe your situation, you definitely need to break up in person. And you. And by the way, you should work on being a coward. You should work on. You said it yourself, I'm a pussy. I don't want to see someone. I don't want to look someone in the eye. It's like, that's part of life, man. Doing shit that sucks is important for you too.

[Blair Saki]

Not.

[Stavros Halkias]

This isn't really who we're. You know, we're. We should worry about treating the people you date with respect. And that's important, but also just as a human being having a hard conversation every time I've had one of those where I don't feel like it. I would pay $10,000 to get out of like an annoying conversation. Whether that's with a relationship, a family member member, a work thing, whatever it is, after I've had a uncomfortable something that I wasn't looking forward to. I honestly do feel like I level up every time I feel accomplished for having done that. And the next one will get. Once you've done something hard that that's not hard anymore, the next one's easier. Yeah.

[Blair Saki]

And treating people like that, I believe comes back to you. And also like all that discomfort in the avoidance I feel compounds the other way too.

[Stavros Halkias]

Yeah.

[Blair Saki]

I mean, and it just ends up making things so much worse than when you have a difficult conversation with dignity. Yeah. You know, versus just like leaving someone in the dark, like confused and just frustrated to death.

[Stavros Halkias]

Totally.

[Blair Saki]

Yeah.

[Stavros Halkias]

Oh, sorry I didn't text you for seven months. But yeah, it is over. But anyway, good luck, dude. Maybe we, maybe we read you wrong and you can just text her out of it, but I doubt it. Anyway, that's the show for this week. Blair, thank you so much for being on the pod.

[Blair Saki]

It was so fun.

[Stavros Halkias]

Yep. Very fun. Check out, check out Blair. Watch your special and you know, see. Let's start a cult if it's near you. And we'll see you next time. Bye. Bye.

[Blair Saki]

Bye. Thanks, guys. Love you.

[Stavros Halkias]

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