#130 - PFT

Summary

Podcast Summary: Stavvy's World Episode #130 - PFT

Release Date: May 26, 2025

Hosts:

• Stavros Halkias (Stavi): The charismatic host of "Stavvy's World."
• PFT Commenter (Eric Suck Dickenberger): A guest from Barstool Sports, known for his strong opinions and humorous banter.

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Introduction and Guest Background [00:38 - 04:04]

The episode kicks off with Stavros welcoming his friend, PFT Commenter, to "Stavvy's World" from Barstool Sports headquarters in Chicago. Stavros delves into the origins of PFT's persona, highlighting how PFT Commenter became a prominent character known for his trolling antics on platforms like Pro Football Talk (PFT).

Notable Quote:

• Stavros: "You know what I mean? Cause it's like, like, even after we were friends, it took me maybe a year to learn your actual name." ([01:27])

PFT reflects on balancing his online troll character with his real-life identity, emphasizing the blend of his PFT persona and his genuine self.

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Evolution of PFT's Persona and Personal Insights [04:04 - 09:25]

The conversation transitions to PFT's attempts to keep his real identity concealed while managing his online presence. Initially, he designed Wayne Tables, a fictional character with a mundane background, to mask his true self. However, maintaining this facade proved challenging as the need for authenticity grew.

Notable Quotes:

• PFT Commenter: "I got really into the character for a little bit." ([04:04])
• Stavros: "How can Gold from Amex sweeten your next food moment?" ([00:00]) (Note: This is part of an advertisement and thus is excluded from content summaries.)

PFT shares anecdotes about his grandfather's significant role in China during the Rape of Nanking, illustrating a legacy of service and resilience.

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Friendships and Early Career Ventures [09:25 - 16:15]

PFT reminisces about his middle school friendships that have endured over the years, mentioning current collaborations like the Hard Factor podcast. The duo discusses their collective ambition to pursue sketch comedy and filmmaking, leading them to move to artistic hubs like Charlottesville and Austin. Despite initial enthusiasm, the group found it challenging to balance creativity with their penchant for partying, ultimately leading them to pivot their career paths.

Notable Quote:

• PFT Commenter: "I was like, this dude, dude, that's happened to me where I'm like, I've invited a girl over to, like, in the text. Like, let's hook up." ([56:20])

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Creative Projects and Comparisons to Popular Media [16:15 - 26:00]

The conversation takes a creative turn as PFT discusses his short film concept, drawing parallels to the acclaimed series "Breaking Bad." His script revolves around a high school dropout collaborating with his chemistry teacher to sell methamphetamine, motivated by a comical yet poignant desire to fund his mother's breast augmentation to alleviate her back pain.

Notable Quotes:

• Stavros: "With none of the social commentary whatsoever. It's just a criminal." ([13:34])
• PFT Commenter: "I was like, this is the best show I've ever seen in my entire life. I created this." ([16:19])

The duo humorously critiques the adoption of PFT's original ideas by mainstream media, specifically referencing the similarities to "Breaking Bad" and expressing both frustration and admiration for the show's execution.

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Listener Interactions and Personal Struggles [26:00 - 57:00]

Throughout the episode, Stavros and PFT engage with listener calls, addressing personal dilemmas ranging from relationship woes to health issues. One notable segment involves a listener grappling with his wife's consideration of breast reduction surgery due to back pain, prompting a heartfelt and comedic exchange on balancing love and personal well-being.

Notable Quotes:

• PFT Commenter: "He will never get back." ([50:19])
• Stavros: "It's a learning situation. You just have to give her some time and then are so insanely apologetic." ([63:00])

Another caller discusses the emotional turmoil of being ghosted by a recently involved partner, leading Stavros and PFT to offer a blend of serious advice and humorous insights on modern relationships.

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Humorous Banter and Product Promotions [57:00 - End]

The latter part of the episode is characterized by light-hearted banter, comedic exchanges about personal habits, and playful discussions about regular weed versus high-potency varieties. The hosts also promote products like "Twisted Tea" THC seltzers and brainstorm humorous branding ideas for regular weed, maintaining the show's signature blend of humor and casual conversation.

Notable Quotes:

• PFT Commenter: "Bring back mids, bro. Bring back mids." ([22:38])
• Stavros: "We need to come up with champagne of weed." ([25:55])

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Conclusion

Episode #130 of "Stavvy's World" is a testament to the enduring friendship between Stavros Halkias and PFT Commenter, blending personal anecdotes, humorous reflections on their careers, and interactive segments that resonate with listeners. The episode masterfully balances humor with genuine advice, creating an engaging experience for both long-time fans and newcomers alike.

Highlighted Quotes:

• Stavros: "It’s about the company and the memories." ([00:00])
• PFT Commenter: "This is tough, man." ([50:05])

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Note: Advertisements and promotional segments have been excluded from this summary to focus on the core content and discussions of the episode.

Transcript

[Stavi]

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[PFT Commenter]

You were made to have strong opinions about sand. We were made to help you and your friends find a place on the.

[Stavi]

Beach with a pool and a marina and a waterfall and a soaking tub. Expedia Made to travel. Welcome everybody to Stavi's World 904-800-stop- call in. We'll solve all your problems. We are here in our Chicago. A little Chicago stint. We're at the barstool headquarters. We got our boy pft. Eric Suck Dickenberger. Is that correct?

[PFT Commenter]

It was Suck Dickenberg. Right. Try to change it. If I wanted to be mainstream. Yeah.

[Stavi]

I love it, dude. Our boy pfd. Thanks for coming, dude. Thanks for being on the show.

[PFT Commenter]

Absolutely.

[Stavi]

Yeah, it's. It's interesting because you really did get. You got famous. And you. You as a. You like starting as a character.

[PFT Commenter]

Yeah.

[Stavi]

You know what I mean? Cause it's like, like, even after we were friends, it took me maybe a year to learn your actual name. Yeah. You know, like that. And even your last, like, even your last. And it feels strange to call you Eric even. And that must be your, like, definitely. People feel, you know, there's a separation between who you are on Mike and who you are off for everyone. But for you, it must be like extra kind of schizophrenic because you're such a defined. And then you're just like this guy that, like. I feel like I've hung out with Eric like for four hours of my whole life where it's like, you know what I mean?

[PFT Commenter]

I've spent more time with pft.

[Stavi]

Yeah, I've spent more time with pft. And I've been thinking about pft. Cause like, before I knew you, I actually did. I would read ksk. Yeah. And so I knew that character and I was like, I was confused as to what the fuck was going on when you first popped up. And then like when you. And then when it was you and you were just like a young guy, like, you know what I mean? Like, I didn't really know what was. And for those who aren't big, like, you know, football blog readers from 2011. Like, I was. Pft. Was a. We were a character making fun of old guys on a website called Pro Football Talk.

[PFT Commenter]

Yeah, yeah, the comment section.

[Stavi]

Exactly. So you were. You were basically like sports Reddit guys. Basically, you were making fun of the comment section of a. Of a. Sort of like, the Pro Football Talk is a little more old. Does it skew older, would you say? Or what do you think?

[PFT Commenter]

I think it skews a little bit older, and it definitely did at the time. And it was. It was like the stupidest football fans, but also. Also kind of the most entertaining with, like, the craziest takes.

[Stavi]

Yes.

[PFT Commenter]

So, yeah, I mean, I would have to. I would sit down at my computer and write blogs for, like, five hours at a time, and then I would have to do something that made me feel like I wasn't a complete fucking moron afterwards. Otherwise I would just start to think, like, this guy. So I'd, like, log off and then go pick up a book and just look at the book for a little bit. So I felt like I wasn't turning into this guy.

[Stavi]

But, yeah.

[PFT Commenter]

Yeah, now it's more. I would say now what you get in terms of what I do, a part of my take is like 60% PFT, 40% Eric.

[Stavi]

Sure. You're weaning them in. You're letting them slowly learn you as a human being instead of a troll character.

[PFT Commenter]

And for those people that weren't online chronically from, like, 2012 to 2015.

[Stavi]

Right.

[PFT Commenter]

Like, absorbing the culture that I was. That the character was born in, you lose a lot of that context.

[Stavi]

Yes.

[PFT Commenter]

And so I still, like, me and Big Cat still do a lot of the trolly stuff. Of course, we still, like, fuck around, but, yeah, you're starting to see more and more of the real error of.

[Stavi]

You as a human being and not just like an ethereal idea.

[PFT Commenter]

Yeah.

[Stavi]

You know, like, even, like. Like, I feel like I didn't see your eyes until, like, I just had no idea what your eyes look like. You were a sunglasses guy.

[PFT Commenter]

I didn't want people to know what I looked like. I was like, surely I'll be able to work at barstool sports and stay off camera. That was honestly my idea. Like, I didn't. I didn't want people to know what I looked like.

[Stavi]

That would have been fun, though, actually. I think, like. Or you're just a shadowy figure in glasses and, like, you're lit kind of poorly. Yeah, they should have done that.

[PFT Commenter]

Well, we tried to do stuff like that at first, and then then like everybo we would hire just interns for the summer and their job would be to walk around with a camera with their phone and videotape everything that's going on. Sometimes I would be in the background and then they'd have to like, look at their phone, be like, oh, I have to delete this because PFT was in the background. I'm like, now I'm making this like 19 year old's job harder. So it. I'll just be on camera a little bit more. But yeah, I got, I got really into the character for a little bit. Like, I planned a lot of stuff out because I didn't want people to know my real name. It was funny if they could just like, of course, pretend that this was an actual guy. Suspend disbelief. And so I sat down one day and I was like, I got to think of a name for this guy. Like, what would his name be? And the name I settled on was Wayne Tables.

[Stavi]

Wayne Tables.

[PFT Commenter]

Like, Wayne is a great shithead name. And then his family, if you go back throughout the years, like they had a job, they worked with their hands, but they're not like, you can't say carpenter. They weren't good enough at everything. They just built tables.

[Stavi]

They could make tables.

[PFT Commenter]

So it's like Wayne Tables was the name.

[Stavi]

Wayne Tables. Yeah. That's so fascinating.

[PFT Commenter]

And then Dicky V called me Patrick the other day because before we, before we did our interviews.

[Stavi]

Pft. There's a T and a P in there.

[PFT Commenter]

Well, at the start of it, he was like, my. My grandkids told me, you got to go on with Big Cat and. And PDF. And I was like, I hope he doesn't call me PDF. Like, you can arrange those any other way that you want. And then halfway through the interview, he went from call me PTF and he just switched up. He's. And he started calling me Patrick.

[Stavi]

That's awesome.

[PFT Commenter]

I was like, fuck it if Dicky V calls me Patrick. Yeah, I'll be your bitch.

[Stavi]

Dicky V. I love it. Dude. Shout out to Dicky V. Old as hell.

[PFT Commenter]

Yeah.

[Stavi]

Kicking. God damn that. That is very funny, dude. And then what is the. Yeah, it's funny to just think of you as like an ethereal. But probably when it really comes down to it, you're just a guy. You're like literally a guy. Some guy from. Were you from Virginia?

[PFT Commenter]

Yeah, Fairfax County.

[Stavi]

Oh, Fairfax. Okay. I did some open mics in Fairfax.

[PFT Commenter]

Oh, yeah.

[Stavi]

So you're. Yeah, you're a fellow sort of DMV boy.

[PFT Commenter]

I am. I was an O's fan. I don't want to say, like, fan. I guess I liked the Orioles. I was growing up because it was like, if you go to a Major League baseball game, it's going to be the Orioles.

[Stavi]

We had a lot of that. We had a lot of, like. We, like. Angelos was mad when the Nationals came around because he was just like, what the fuck? I don't have to try. And these people are my fans. Yeah. No, Baltimore. Yeah. I mean, the Orioles were. Were great, but it's just the ballpark was great when we were kids, too. It was just like a fun, fun place to be.

[PFT Commenter]

My first game was at Memorial Stadium, so I went to, like, the old one. That was my first baseball game.

[Stavi]

That's fucking crazy.

[PFT Commenter]

And then I would go to an Orioles game, like, maybe once or twice a year. But then the second we got the Nats, I was like, fuck that.

[Stavi]

Yeah.

[PFT Commenter]

Like, that's. That's my team now.

[Stavi]

Yeah. Yeah. And I could never, like, root for any D.C. it just feels so wrong to root for anything from D.C. as a Baltimore.

[PFT Commenter]

Yeah.

[Stavi]

We're just such different. We're such different towns. Why D.C. was your father, like, an evil weapons contractor?

[PFT Commenter]

Yeah, my dad was. No.

[Stavi]

Are you in the CIA? Are you in the. Are you a CIA plant?

[PFT Commenter]

My grandfather did work for the State Department for a little bit.

[Stavi]

Whoa.

[PFT Commenter]

But he got hired. He was the guy that would, like, decide he would help people when they were doing the Foreign service exam. Because, like, back in the. I want to say, 30s, if you're going to be a diplomat somewhere, they didn't even make you learn the language to go over there. That's how dumb we were. And. And he was a missionary to China for, like, 30 years back. Your grandfather, I just found out. He was. He was at the Rape of Nanking.

[Stavi]

What?

[PFT Commenter]

Yeah. So his.

[Stavi]

What was he up to?

[PFT Commenter]

Which side of.

[Stavi]

He put on a fucking samurai outfit and it was like, all right, switching sides.

[PFT Commenter]

No, he was like. He was working.

[Stavi]

Jesus Christ. He was there.

[PFT Commenter]

He was. He was, like, delivering food to the Chinese and, like, oh, my God. Helping the Chinese farmers and peasants, like, escape what was going on. So he was working with, like, the communists and the Nationalists at the same time? Because at the time, it was, like.

[Stavi]

It was just one big. China was kind of all over the place.

[PFT Commenter]

We'll settle our differences after Japan gets the fuck out of here.

[Stavi]

Yeah.

[PFT Commenter]

So he was over there for a little bit, and then he came back to the US and he said, I want to keep working, doing the same job that I'm doing, but I don't want to work with the church anymore. Can the government can. I think it would be beneficial to the US if we helped the poor people in China survive after World War II.

[Stavi]

Some hearts and minds.

[PFT Commenter]

Hearts and minds, yeah. Was it belts and whatever it is that China's doing? But then he came back to D.C. and he started working for the State Department and the Foreign Service Institute, helping people, putting in rules like, you have to be able to speak the language. Language if you're going to work there. And so he worked there for a little bit and moved out to. To McLean, like a tiny house, and then, like, giant mansions just popped. So his. His neighbors were all, like, lobbyists and lawyers by the end of his life out there.

[Stavi]

Brutal.

[PFT Commenter]

Yeah.

[Stavi]

So brutal.

[PFT Commenter]

He didn't really like his neighbors too much.

[Stavi]

He was like, I want to. I don't want to work for the corrupt church anymore. What I need to do is work in for the State Department of the United States.

[PFT Commenter]

Exactly.

[Stavi]

Maybe the old. I don't know what's more corrupt, the Catholic Church or the intelligence community, but either way, it ain't good. Either way, you're not surrounded by the best people. That's fucking crazy. I mean, so was that, like. Were you, like, surrounded by that? So you started your life there. Did you grow up there the whole time? Were you in Fairfax the whole time?

[PFT Commenter]

I was in Herndon growing up.

[Stavi]

Oh, Herndon. Okay. So my.

[PFT Commenter]

My street in Herndon was, like, run by Ms. 13, which is crazy because if you look at, like, the evolution of ms.13 as a gang.

[Stavi]

Yeah.

[PFT Commenter]

I think it started in LA.

[Stavi]

Okay.

[PFT Commenter]

And then it sprouted out to, like, Herndon, Virginia.

[Stavi]

Interesting. In Fairfax county, just one guy moved there.

[PFT Commenter]

It might have been something like that. And then. Yeah, it was like a very El Salvadorian neighborhood.

[Stavi]

Yes. Yeah.

[PFT Commenter]

Yeah. That I grew up in. But it was. Yeah, it was. It was a pretty. Pretty chill.

[Stavi]

Yeah.

[PFT Commenter]

Like, they didn't with me too much.

[Stavi]

Yeah, yeah.

[PFT Commenter]

We're just like, okay, he's gonna walk to school. Let him walk to school.

[Stavi]

Right.

[PFT Commenter]

But they're definitely super mercados that I was not supposed to go in.

[Stavi]

Sure, sure.

[PFT Commenter]

I'll say this, though. People don't talk about El Salvadorian food.

[Stavi]

Yeah, yeah.

[PFT Commenter]

Delicious.

[Stavi]

Really good stuff.

[PFT Commenter]

Really good. I mean, it's the same ingredients.

[Stavi]

It's like flour. Yeah. But they do it in a better. It's like, kind of mashed up in a nice way. It's like a cheesy. It's like a better. It's like the best version of stuffed crust pizza possible. If you took the idea of a stuffed. Of stuffed crust separate from the pizza and just make it something cheesy. A little cheesy pocket. Great stuff.

[PFT Commenter]

It is good.

[Stavi]

The pupusas are great. What's the crew looking like? Who are you fleeing ms.13 with as a suburban Virginia boy? What's the. Who's the crew like? It was me and Eldis over Aim, like, you know, our crew was like, who were the. Who were the fellas? When you're probably just a dork who loves football trying not to get beat up by the El Salvadorians. I mean, who are your boys?

[PFT Commenter]

That was like my neighborhood that was like, had a lot of the MS.13. The other side of town didn't have as much.

[Stavi]

Sure, sure.

[PFT Commenter]

And so by the time middle school hit. Met those guys, still friends to this day, they do the Hard Factor podcast.

[Stavi]

Okay.

[PFT Commenter]

So, like, Will, Mark, Pat, Wes, those guys from that show, we all kind of like, bonded together in middle school. And Pat, obviously, who's still. He's. We call him the Beef now. He's Kate's baby daddy. Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. So he's still like, oh, that's one.

[Stavi]

Of your best friends. Oh, I didn't know that.

[PFT Commenter]

Yeah, since, like, middle school. So we would hang out hijinks, like, love it, get into some mischief, all that shit. And then we go off to college, and we stayed in touch and we started a sketch comedy group.

[Stavi]

Really?

[PFT Commenter]

Yeah. Right out of college, moved to Charlottesville, Virginia. That was our idea of, like, moving to an artistic city.

[Stavi]

Oh, the artistic city.

[PFT Commenter]

Filmmaking going on in Charlottesville. So me and my five boys are gonna move there and get.

[Stavi]

Stay in Virginia, by the way.

[PFT Commenter]

We're gonna get.

[Stavi]

We're not gonna even think about moving out of the state, dude.

[PFT Commenter]

Stay in central Virginia.

[Stavi]

Yeah, yeah. Even make it to Richmond, dude.

[PFT Commenter]

I went. I went east of Massanutton, and I was like, this paradise, man. And so we were like, we're gonna make. We're gonna make movies. We're gonna make sketch comedy. It's gonna be great. But we all like to party way more than we were able to focus on, like, doing the artistic. And then after, like, I don't know, nine months, a year of being in Charlottesville, we're like, charlottesville's just not happening for us.

[Stavi]

That. Aim for the scene. The scene is dead.

[PFT Commenter]

Yeah.

[Stavi]

The vibrant Charlottesville scene. We were here a year too late. Yeah, we Gotta switch it up.

[PFT Commenter]

We got it. It's not us, it's the city. Austin. Because Austin is like Charlottesville on steroids. It's like real burgeoning film scenes.

[Stavi]

And this is probably, what, 2005.

[PFT Commenter]

Moved to Austin in 2008, I believe.

[Stavi]

Eight. Okay. Sorry. Yes.

[PFT Commenter]

So we go down there and my. My dream. And our dream at the time was to make a movie out of a short story that. That I wrote that we turned into a short film.

[Stavi]

Okay.

[PFT Commenter]

And the premise of the short film was a high school dropout and he decides to support his family by making and selling methamphetamines with his high school chemistry teacher.

[Stavi]

Wow. You had, from Jesse's point of view, Breaking Bad. You had Jesse's POV Breaking Bad locked and loaded.

[PFT Commenter]

Yeah. I think the point was his just.

[Stavi]

With none of the social commentary whatsoever. It's just a criminal. Like, there's no catch 22. There's no moral quandary. There's just like, no. Yeah, he just wants to sell drugs and not go to school.

[PFT Commenter]

Exactly. Well, it was. He wanted to sell drugs because he wanted his mom to buy him an Xbox, and his mom wasn't making enough money as a stripper, so he wanted to make money so he could buy.

[Stavi]

You gotta have the mom stripper. He was gotta see your tits at some point in the movie.

[PFT Commenter]

His idea was, I'm gonna. I'm gonna sell meth so I can afford to get my mom a boob job.

[Stavi]

Yeah.

[PFT Commenter]

So then she can work at Hooters. And then. Then the money spent, and then she'll buy me an Xbox.

[Stavi]

So it was about the healthcare system. It just wasn't chemo. It was fucking fake tits for your mom.

[PFT Commenter]

Yeah, dude. Like, that's. People are always like. I remember back in 2016, they're like, yeah, you know, the Chapo Cometown part of my take resistance movement really cared about the healthcare in this country. Yeah. I was there from day one.

[Stavi]

Day one, trying to get tits for moms.

[PFT Commenter]

Yeah. So.

[Stavi]

And I agree with that, honestly, my dream in life is to buy. Is to find a woman I trust so much, I buy her tits. That's love to me.

[PFT Commenter]

Cause you're not getting that back.

[Stavi]

The tits can go at any moment. The tits go out with her. And that, to me, is proof that you really love someone if you buy her tits.

[PFT Commenter]

That's super altruistic.

[Stavi]

Yeah, yeah, yeah.

[PFT Commenter]

I'm doing this for you.

[Stavi]

I'm doing this for you.

[PFT Commenter]

It's not for me at all.

[Stavi]

All I'm complete Look, there's some benefits for me, but I'm completely at your mercy here. Yeah, you take the tits, the tits are yours.

[PFT Commenter]

Yeah. It's not like an engagement ring.

[Stavi]

No, it's more than an engagement ring. You know, Exactly. It's better than an engagement. You should have to buy your wife to be big fake tits to show that you really mean it. Because not only that, you're making her more attractive. You're actually helping her. If she wanted to cheat on you, that's how much you trust her. You're like, I'm handing you the gun to shoot me with, and I trust that you'll put it away and not. You know what I mean?

[PFT Commenter]

You gotta be confident dude to do that.

[Stavi]

Exactly. Well, that's what I'm saying. I'm not there yet. Yeah, that's my goal. That's what I want, to find a woman I buy tits for.

[PFT Commenter]

So you're going to go to like a psychiatrist and be like. Yeah, I just want to. I want to get to a point where I'm so confident that I can get my girl tits. Can you help me die?

[Stavi]

Please help me. Or get so rich that money doesn't mean anything. And I'll buy anyone tits.

[PFT Commenter]

20 year anniversary, you upgrade the tits just like the diamond.

[Stavi]

Absolutely. Yeah. You should be able to do that. That would be. That is true love. I think that's. That's beautiful, man. And I guess that's still in development now. You should do it now with the resources at Barstool. You should shoot like a really shit take, like a weekend and just like storyboard it with like your cameras here and just shoot a really bad version of that movie.

[PFT Commenter]

That's not a bad idea. I was pissed off for a little bit, though, when Breaking Bad came out.

[Stavi]

Yeah.

[PFT Commenter]

I was like, this motherfucker, Vince Gilligan stole my idea, stole my shit.

[Stavi]

Yeah.

[PFT Commenter]

And. And then after a while, I was like, you know what?

[Stavi]

Maybe.

[PFT Commenter]

Maybe I'll try watching it.

[Stavi]

Yeah.

[PFT Commenter]

And I was like, this is the best show I've ever seen in my entire life. I created this.

[Stavi]

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[PFT Commenter]

It was mostly the high school chemistry teacher. Sure, that part of it. I was like, well, they. That's. I like that part.

[Stavi]

Yeah, but then I love how you were like, you know, the more compelling character is the stupid high school dropout. Not the kind of teacher who would be. Who would be forced under certain circumstances, a formerly upstanding member of society. That's not interesting. He's the side case I need. The white trash idiot.

[PFT Commenter]

It just was a coincidence that that happened to be the character that I would play that I wanted to.

[Stavi]

That I wanted to make the key part. Yeah, yeah, I know. I think about that too, where I'm like, damn, I can't. All the idea, like in my head. All the ideas that you would do when you were starting out are about young people finding. And it's like, I could never play. I'm like, I'm so fat and old now that it's like, I have to make things about a divorced guy. You know what I mean? I have to make things about a guy is things I haven't even experienced. My face and body look like a man that's lived a life, even though I have the life experience of some fucking dumbass, like, you know, kid or whatever.

[PFT Commenter]

You've watched a coming of age movie and it's like clearly 26, 27 year old actors.

[Stavi]

Yes, yes.

[PFT Commenter]

You're thinking of ways that you could play like a 45 year old guy.

[Stavi]

Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. I can't play guys that are older than me. I got like, I got the stuff I get auditions for. It's just like, ah, come on, man.

[PFT Commenter]

You could pull off a high schooler stuff that would be great. Like, just make a movie about high school. Like it's about high school, but the actors are all clearly in their 40s.

[Stavi]

That's fine. I mean, they. When they did that with Wet Hotter American Summer 2, that was funny. We just watched Mac and Devin go to high school, which is Wiz Khalifa and Snoop Dogg who are both playing high school students. Whiz Khalifa. Now look, they give, they give Snoop some plausible deniability. They make him. They say he's been in school for what, like 12 years? Eldest.

[C]

Yeah.

[Stavi]

Or 15 years, which would make him like 30 years old.

[PFT Commenter]

He's a 50.

[Stavi]

Like when this, when did this come out? In 2012. So Snoop is probably 55 years old playing a fucking playing. Or actually he's a little younger than you think because he got famous when he was like 16 or whatever. But still, it's hilarious that they are both high school students.

[PFT Commenter]

I love that. How have I not heard of this movie?

[Stavi]

Dude, you will watch this movie. It makes no sense. So Wiz Khalifa is the uptight nerd. Okay, so he's the uptight nerd that Snoop just offers weed to and instantly he's cool as shit. He smokes weed for like 40 seconds and like 10 minutes later, he has like a soft core porn scene. Like, he's literally in the champagne room of a strip club. And it's like a two minute scene and they cut. They see your, like, it's simulated penetration. It's fucking. It's insane.

[C]

He's like motorboating her tits.

[PFT Commenter]

That's how it happens the first time you smoke weed. You don't get like anxiety and you don't think, like, everyone here knows that I'm high. Oh, is that my parents? Is that their footsteps? No, you just. You go straight for the tits.

[Stavi]

You become fucking awesome.

[PFT Commenter]

It's like Stefan and Steve Urkel.

[Stavi]

It really. It really is, man. No, that, that, that's a great. I think you'll really enjoy that flick, man.

[PFT Commenter]

Do you agree with me that we got too strong?

[Stavi]

Yeah, absolutely.

[PFT Commenter]

Like, we've reached that point right?

[Stavi]

I am dealing with that right now where I actually, a buddy bought me joints that are literally like, they're like, you puff on them four times and they're out. And I smoked one of those and it was the perfect amount. Yeah, I can't smoke a whole joint. I need to smoke 18 of a joint and they're selling those. It's like, how about we just make the weed a little easier?

[PFT Commenter]

Bring back mids.

[Stavi]

Bring back mids, bro. Bring back mids. Like, I need old man weed. I need, like how Michelob Ultra is 2% by volume. Yeah, give me 2% by volume. Joints. Do you want me to water down joint? Yeah.

[PFT Commenter]

You want to go in on this?

[Stavi]

I would 100 do, like, like easy, like easy joints or something like that.

[PFT Commenter]

Like, just call it regular weed.

[Stavi]

Regular weed.

[PFT Commenter]

I don't know.

[Stavi]

Yeah, maybe easy joints or like. Yeah, easy. Old man. Old man kush.

[PFT Commenter]

Weed. Zero Weed.

[Stavi]

Zero.

[PFT Commenter]

But then that implies like zero percent weed. Light weed Light.

[Stavi]

Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah.

[C]

Throwback cush.

[Stavi]

Throwback cush. Yeah. Heirloom kush.

[PFT Commenter]

Oh, I like that. That sounds prestigious and classic.

[Stavi]

Yeah, yeah.

[PFT Commenter]

For the discerning old man.

[Stavi]

Heirloom kush. That's not bad. Do you want to be able to Gentleman's blend. Heirloo good. Gentleman's blend.

[PFT Commenter]

I like that.

[Stavi]

All right, we're getting something.

[PFT Commenter]

You want to Be able to smoke a joint and watch a movie.

[Stavi]

Yes. And remember it. Yeah, dude. I've said this before on the podcast. I watched the. The Joaquin Phoenix movie where he's guys up with a hammer. You were never really there. Is that what it's called? I saw that three times, and on the third time I was like, oh, I've watched this. Like, I watched it once highest. Then I watched it again, and at the end I was like, with the end, it's a very memorable ending scene. And I'm just like, wait. And then I remember I've seen it all before. And then I watched it a third time and the exact same thing happened, except instead of remembering, I was like, wait, I've watched this twice.

[PFT Commenter]

That's awesome.

[Stavi]

And that's how there was a period in my life where I was getting so high in watching movies and I remember maybe like 2% of them blacking out from weed. Heirloom weed. Yeah, heirloom Kush. Gentleman's blend. You're right. Because at first I was thinking the branding should be sort of like Bud Light or something like that, or like light branding and kind of modern. But I think, like, let's go with the heritage vibe. Let's like, this is your. This is old school. I mean, we've gotten to the point where if we did it 70s branding, it would actually feel very retro, like extra retro.

[PFT Commenter]

Yeah.

[Stavi]

To us, that's. Oh, that just happened. But to chill, like, to zoo the zoomers in this office, the 70s or.

[PFT Commenter]

The 30s, they're like, that's so cool.

[Stavi]

Yeah, yeah, yeah.

[PFT Commenter]

I think. Yeah. You gotta. You gotta separate Midsummer. Like, the way we say mids, I think, is different from the way that kids now say mids.

[Stavi]

Right? Mid is bad now.

[PFT Commenter]

Mid is. Yeah, mid is bad. The Overton window of weed has expanded so high that you just have to be like, it's just regular weed, man.

[Stavi]

Regular weed.

[PFT Commenter]

Regular weed.

[Stavi]

But I think we should offer mid too. That's the thing. It's like, we should have. It should be. It should be. It goes from. We start at shake. You know what I mean? Like, shake and just like. And sticks and we should sell sticks and stems. Right? That should be like the, like ground up sticks and stems.

[PFT Commenter]

It's like byproduct from the good weed that people are making out.

[Stavi]

Exactly.

[PFT Commenter]

They probably throw that out.

[Stavi]

Exactly. So we started sticks and stems, then we have shake, then we have like mid, and then we have gentleman's blend, which is. Or then we have maybe regular weed, and then we have Gentleman's blend, which is just, like, elevated, maybe a little. A very fine sprinkling of Keef not. Dude, they cover it now where it's like. And they put it with, like, wax. Like, it's like, none of that, dude. I think that's. We need to have different levels and we have to have different branding. Regular weed is just kind of like every man that is your bud light. And then, you know, we have, like, gentleman's blend can be, like, now we're mixing it, but like, high life. Like the champagne of weed.

[PFT Commenter]

Ooh, I like that.

[Stavi]

We need to come up with champagne of weed.

[PFT Commenter]

Black label.

[Stavi]

We need that. Yeah.

[PFT Commenter]

Marketed just like you market whiskey.

[Stavi]

Yes, exactly right. Exactly right. No, we. We're onto something here for sure.

[PFT Commenter]

Let's do it. We get a fuckload of money.

[Stavi]

Yeah, yeah, yeah. We'd be great spokespeople to go in on a weed. We're exactly two kinds of guys that want this. The guys that. This look exactly like us, dude. All right, dude, I love it. We're going to get. Yeah, we're going to. We're going to. We're going to make a ton of money with regular weed. Regular weed. Gentleman's blend.

[PFT Commenter]

When you look at me and Stavi, you think, gentlemen.

[Stavi]

Yeah, we do need somebody to. We. We'll need a celebrity to come in for gentleman's blend, but we can get started with. With sticks and stems and shake and all that stuff. Yeah. Do you want to smoke weed and not forget where you are? Do you want to smoke weed? Like, literally yesterday, I was so high. I got up fully. I had a cup of water in my lap, and I just got up and it spilled all over the fucking floor, dude.

[PFT Commenter]

I got so high last week because I was dealing with a kidney stone, which sucks. So I took the edible. Have you had those?

[Stavi]

No, somehow I haven't. He has, which he. I was. We were roommates when he had. He had a kidney stone. I lived in our living room at the time, and all I hear is eldest wake up. And I. First of all, I just heard, like, he's just low grade moaning like a fucking ghost.

[PFT Commenter]

It somehow makes you feel a little bit better to just make those noises.

[Stavi]

He was just going. And then I hear him get up, moaning the whole time. Get. I hear him get the bong. I hear him rip the bong and then go back and just. The moaning didn't stop, by the way. It got fucking crazier.

[C]

I was in agonizing pain all night, and I was, like, dribbling Bloody piss, like, every two minutes for, like, six hours. And I was like, I need to do something. I thought weed would help. I just ended up getting, like, really high.

[PFT Commenter]

No sleep.

[C]

It felt even worse.

[PFT Commenter]

Did you know what was happening at the time?

[C]

It was, like, passing from my kidney to.

[PFT Commenter]

But, like, were you. Did you know the. The pain is a kidney stone?

[Stavi]

Or were you, like. Didn't you.

[PFT Commenter]

Because that's the worst part.

[C]

I don't think I.

[Stavi]

You didn't. You didn't because you went to the doctor. I was literally scared. I was like, what, Feel like you're dying? Yeah.

[PFT Commenter]

It's, like, very, very bad. It's weird pain, too.

[C]

It was, like, agonizing. It was the worst pain I felt. They say it's worse than, like, childbirth.

[PFT Commenter]

That's what the doctor said. She said she'd given birth to three kids, and this is worse. And I was like, I'm gonna tell that to every woman I meet.

[Stavi]

That's awesome. We're gonna get one now just to be able to fucking wag it in every dumb bitch's face. Sweetie, sweetie. I got a diet high in nitrates. Okay. You've had kids? I've had eight kidney stones. How do you get them? It is like. Isn't it, like, protein?

[PFT Commenter]

There's a lot of different causes for it. I actually. I saved the kidney stone.

[Stavi]

Oh, wow.

[PFT Commenter]

They're going to analyze it.

[Stavi]

Okay.

[PFT Commenter]

See what it's made out of, but they think it's probably made from sodium. And I eat a lot of salt.

[Stavi]

Yeah.

[PFT Commenter]

And I was trying to think, like, this is weird. Like, I eat a lot of sodium, but I always eat a lot of sodium. Why am I getting stones right now? And then just, like, 30 minutes ago, Madeline, on macro dosing, she just said, you think it had anything to do with your gumbo week?

[Stavi]

Oh, right.

[PFT Commenter]

And I was like, oh, how? That's how bad my diet is.

[Stavi]

Yeah. That.

[PFT Commenter]

A week of eating nothing but gumbo. I had, like, 15 or 16 gumbos in a row.

[Stavi]

Yeah. Yeah.

[PFT Commenter]

That didn't even register with me.

[Stavi]

What was it, the national championship? Super Bowl?

[PFT Commenter]

Super Bowl?

[Stavi]

Super Bowls. In New Orleans.

[PFT Commenter]

In New Orleans. Yeah. So I only ate gumbo. And I was like, yeah, that might have something to do with the high intake.

[Stavi]

How. How soon after gumbo week did it happen?

[PFT Commenter]

So this was. I think I got it a week and a half ago.

[Stavi]

Oh, so, like, it's been a while.

[PFT Commenter]

A couple months, but I don't know how long.

[Stavi]

Yeah. Yeah.

[PFT Commenter]

So I'm down in my. In my basement. I Go into the ER and they did like an ultrasound. They didn't ultrasound like on my balls. They put the wand on my. Because they thought my testicle was like twisted around itself. They're like, we might have to remove it.

[Stavi]

Your ball is trying to fucking hang itself.

[PFT Commenter]

Yeah, damn.

[Stavi]

They might. They were. They would. Had to remove your nut.

[PFT Commenter]

Well, they thought that it was like the. The twisted. The twisted nut. And if you have that, you have to get it operated on like immediately or else they have to twist it.

[Stavi]

Out and then would you have gotten another. A fake ball in the pouch or would you have rocked a single one?

[PFT Commenter]

I think I would rock solo.

[Stavi]

Solo ball.

[PFT Commenter]

Because like I always talk about people are. Cuz I've had that question before. They're like, would you have it removed? And there's an ancient art. You're probably familiar with itavi the Japanese art of flower arrangement.

[Stavi]

Okay. I don't know about it.

[PFT Commenter]

It says that like one rose looks beautiful in a vase. Two roses look terrible.

[Stavi]

Interesting.

[PFT Commenter]

Three roses look great. Four roses look terrible in a vase. So I feel like my. My ball sack might look better.

[Stavi]

But that's one nut. One nut. That makes two.

[PFT Commenter]

That is true.

[Stavi]

You know? Yeah. You know, now it's like.

[PFT Commenter]

Yeah, now it's like the big three down there. Yeah.

[Stavi]

Y.

[PFT Commenter]

This is kg.

[Stavi]

Yeah.

[PFT Commenter]

Yeah. So I don't know. I didn't think about that. That's an excellent point.

[Stavi]

That would be my worry because it's like you got one little ass. For me, I have a little ass dick. And then I would assume because the sack is still the same size and you have one not weighing it down. You just have a longer, more angular. You kind of have basically what looks like your dick. It would look like my dick because my dick is little as fuck. It looks like a little fucking, you know, little thing on top of your shit. And then you just have lower foreskin. And a nut sack look kind of similar. For me, it would look. The two things would be too similar without two nuts.

[PFT Commenter]

It might. I think one of the nuts. I think the remaining nut would stay in its home. It's like, I've lived here too long, I'm not moving out. And then. Then the dick would kind of migrate into the place of the old. Your dick would just be like at the side, like hanging down kind of sideways.

[Stavi]

Oh, you think they would be parallel to each other.

[PFT Commenter]

Yeah, I think. I think you'd just be like. Like my dick is on my right. My ball.

[Stavi]

I don't have that much hang time on My left. Yeah.

[PFT Commenter]

So. So I'm down. I'm down in the basement. They gave me like one day worth of painkillers at the. At the doctor and.

[Stavi]

So ridiculous.

[PFT Commenter]

I. I had to obviously self medicate on some gummies.

[Stavi]

Yeah.

[PFT Commenter]

And so I took a gummy and I was trying to piss this thing out. So I'm chugging waters. I probably filled this thing up like five times. I'm chugging these waters, going to the bathroom every, like, 15 minutes. And then I got to the point where I get a little bit paranoid because I'm too high. And then I'm like, like, did I just give myself water poisoning? Like, am I going to die now because I drank so much water? Yeah, yeah, yeah. And so then I start panicking and I'm like, that's like a electrolyte imbalance. There's not enough sodium. I'm going to go upstairs, I'm going eat a. I. I have to eat some salt. So I went upstairs, got a full bag of Cool Ranch Doritos. And that was. That was also my medicine. I was like, I got to do.

[Stavi]

This for my health. For my health. So I know Eldis was talking about how. He was like, he. You know, you saw some video where it was like. Like, they say you should put a little salt in your water for better hydration. And it's like, in no world do we not get enough sodium. There is no world where our diet needs a little salt in the water. I think we fucking crush it with all the canned fish you have alone.

[C]

Do you think we're hydrated?

[Stavi]

I think. I don't think we are, but I don't think not enough salt is the problem. It's awesome that you're like, yeah, that's what's stopping my body from absorbing all the fucking water.

[PFT Commenter]

It's meant for, like, Michael Phelps to drink.

[Stavi]

Yeah, it's. Yeah, exactly.

[PFT Commenter]

And I need that, too.

[Stavi]

Yeah. It's guys who, like. It's guys who measure the macros to like, like, the gram, you know, it's not us, bro.

[PFT Commenter]

Yeah, I'm gonna piss that out. Yeah.

[Stavi]

Guys who. For guys who, like, don't take Gatorade because they're like, it has too much sugar. Yeah, we are. We also drink Gatorade, eldest, like, we have so much Gatorade on the bus anyway. Yeah, we've been. We've been doing an okay job staying.

[PFT Commenter]

You know, 25,000 steps.

[Stavi]

20,000, dude. Yeah. Every day I'm on a 20,000 step streak. Today's the first day. It's it's at risk because I got here. I've been. I've been actually podcasting all day. But I'll get it. I'll get it afterwards.

[PFT Commenter]

It burns. Calor, too.

[Stavi]

Yeah. The mind is working. The mind is working.

[PFT Commenter]

So powerful muscle of all. We do have a treadmill downstairs if you want that.

[Stavi]

Yeah, I actually might hop on for a little bit. Actually. It depends on what the weather's like. I might just go. Chicago is a fucking beautiful town. Trip Planner by Expedia.

[PFT Commenter]

You were made to have strong opinions about sand. We were made to help you and your friends find a place on the.

[Stavi]

Beach with a pool and a marina and a waterfall and a soaking. Expedia. Made to travel.

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[Stavi]

But I do love thinking of. Yeah, it's funny to think of you as like in your little. In your Austin, I'm a fucking artist phase. It was. Was it those. It was like your friends from middle school? You guys all had that. Yeah, like a house in Austin.

[PFT Commenter]

Yeah, we had a little compound.

[Stavi]

Did you have a job? Like, what was your day job back then?

[PFT Commenter]

So my first job was I was an adoption counselor for homeless dogs.

[Stavi]

Okay.

[PFT Commenter]

Yeah.

[Stavi]

I was like, holy shit.

[PFT Commenter]

I should have just stopped myself.

[Stavi]

What a good gu. For dogs.

[PFT Commenter]

Yeah. I was a used dog salesman.

[Stavi]

Used dog salesman.

[PFT Commenter]

I would set up my little pens outside, like, Petsmart. And then I would try to get there early in the morning to the show.

[Stavi]

You would like, you would. You would show up at where they do puppy mills and be like, don't go. Get them from here. Get them from here.

[PFT Commenter]

Yeah, really shame them.

[Stavi]

That's good.

[PFT Commenter]

Yeah, smart. So I would go to the Shelter early in the morning.

[Stavi]

Girl Scout like girls setting. Like Girl Scout girls setting up outside of a grocery store. It's like, oh, you're going to go buy Chips Ahoy.

[PFT Commenter]

Yeah.

[Stavi]

How about from us, you fucking piece of shit? Yeah.

[PFT Commenter]

Oh, you want to go get a yellow lab that's eight weeks old and adorable inside that will be very well behaved.

[Stavi]

Yeah.

[PFT Commenter]

How about this nine year old catahoula that tried to bite you six times? This dog's way better.

[Stavi]

Yeah.

[PFT Commenter]

So I would get to the shelter super early in the morning because you could try to get the better dogs that would like bring more people over.

[Stavi]

Oh, wow. And so you get in line waiting like it's a new iPhone. Yeah, yeah, let me get one. Let me get a dog that doesn't shit itself.

[PFT Commenter]

Yes. We get like all these puppies and stuff. Set them up there. I got paid like 525 an hour for that.

[Stavi]

Okay.

[PFT Commenter]

And then I got accused of stealing at one point from the owner.

[Stavi]

Stealing what?

[PFT Commenter]

The donations. Where all these dogs are. I have no idea. I'm wearing a coat, man.

[Stavi]

101 Dalmatians rebooted for like a early 20s stoner dirt bag. That's pretty funny. Yeah.

[PFT Commenter]

At one point this guy was like, where's your. Where's the bag of donations, Eric? And I was like, dude, I don't know. I put in the safe at the end of my shift. It had like 40 bucks in there. Yeah, I'm sorry. He's like, well, the money's not in there. I was like, well, then somebody else that works for you is like, some low life is stealing the money out of your safe before you check it. And then at one point. Well, I enjoyed the job because it was fun hanging out with the dogs.

[Stavi]

Yeah.

[PFT Commenter]

But then one day the guy that ran the place just disappeared in the middle of the night. He like, moved to Mexico overnight. So we all go to the shelter in the morning, morning, and nobody's working there. And there's just probably a hundred dogs.

[Stavi]

Are you serious?

[PFT Commenter]

Like, what the do we do with all these dogs?

[Stavi]

Oh my God, dude, you just left it. They left the dogs there? Yeah.

[PFT Commenter]

He's like, I'm going to Mexico. He literally said, like, I'm. I gotta get away from all these dogs. And the location. I think that's where Elon built the. The Tesla place.

[Stavi]

Oh, wow.

[PFT Commenter]

I think it might be on that.

[Stavi]

Same great entrepreneurs both. Both had. Both fucking did their business on that plot of land.

[PFT Commenter]

Yeah.

[Stavi]

There's.

[PFT Commenter]

I got bad news. There's gonna be a Lot. Lot of. A lot of Tesla people coming down with Parvo in the next couple years. That was a dirty spot. Yeah. So I worked at that place for a little bit. Austin's a fun place to be in your 20s.

[Stavi]

Yeah, it really is. Especially back then. Now the tech bros have ruined it a little bit. It's not as fun. But I like that the shelter's fascinating me, I was actually thinking, this is like me. I just wrote this down in my notes yesterday about. I'm always trying to. I try and do a new joke every time. Time is. Let me pick your brain. As somebody who worked at a shelter, like, it is crazy how good Americans treat dogs here. Like, and so I was thinking, like, you're never gonna like. I definitely have a very. Foreigners. Some of my fans hate how much I'm like, dogs shouldn't be on. And you probably hate it too. I know you have beautiful. You know you love your dogs and you and Big Cat are big dog guys. But I'm a. I'm a like, dog in the bed. What am I? A fucking. You know what I mean? I'm like, tim, put him outside, feed him pork bones, finish ribs and just throw the bones at the dog. That's what they should eat. And we're never gonna. And maybe I'm a little too extreme, whatever. But I think the only way we're gonna. This is an opportunity. Maybe we solve homelessness, where it's like, if you wanna design a dog, you also have to adopt a homeless guy. And he doesn't have to live with you, obviously, but you have to give him like, whatever you spend on your dog, you have to just give the homeless guy also. You know what I mean? Like matching. And it's like, that was. You know what? You want to have a dumb dog with a north face, Great. Now a homeless guy gets a north face. You know what I'm saying?

[PFT Commenter]

I think that.

[Stavi]

Yeah, the farmer's dog, I think that's humans. It's human grade food.

[PFT Commenter]

Yeah.

[Stavi]

I could eat it, you know, so give the guy a couple little. Couple packets of farmer's dog.

[PFT Commenter]

It is wild in. In America. I actually think that if like some dude walked into like an adoption shelter with an AR15 and shot up all.

[Stavi]

The dogs, it would make more headlines.

[PFT Commenter]

I think it would make a bigger.

[Stavi]

It would make more guidelines than if they shot a literal orphanage. Yes, you're so right. We've already killed kids. We don't give a. Yeah, there's like.

[PFT Commenter]

Pictures like puppies and blood on the ground. People Are like, oh my God.

[Stavi]

It would do so much bigger numbers.

[PFT Commenter]

Where are we as a society where this is. Okay.

[Stavi]

God, you're so right. That sucks, dude. Damn. I might have to seal that for this bit. For the bit we're workshopping here. This is all.

[PFT Commenter]

This is all your IP on this pod.

[Stavi]

Exactly. Well, that's the thing. The way you sign what you signed earlier. The email you.

[PFT Commenter]

The email that I pretended to read.

[Stavi]

Yeah, yeah, yeah. The text you answered. That actually makes it. Anything you said is legally binding. Mine. And everything you say for the next two hours. So anything that happens on PMT after this, it's yours. It's mine as well.

[PFT Commenter]

Okay. I'm gonna say some really stupid.

[Stavi]

Yeah. So I don't know. I'm. I've been. I've been kicking around that idea. It's like, get a. If you get a golden doodle, you need to like help a Vietnam vet. You know what I mean? Get. Get some canned tuna or whatever the.

[PFT Commenter]

I mean, it would help if the Vietnam vested, like, maybe, you know, look a little bit cuter. Like, snuggle with me. Have you ever been cuddled by a Vietnam vet? Like, if a guy.

[Stavi]

I can't say.

[PFT Commenter]

Yeah, if a guy like, you know, walking down the street, down and out, long hair, scraggly beard. If you just walked up to you and just like rested his. His chin on your shoulder, you would be like this cuddly grandpa. He's so adorable.

[Stavi]

Yeah, I think that's definitely. Yeah.

[PFT Commenter]

I can't hold your.

[Stavi]

Come here, buddy.

[PFT Commenter]

Do they know any tricks?

[Stavi]

Yeah, no, no. Just screaming. Just having flashbacks. Why don't we do. I know you got to get out of here, but so we're. But let's do. Let's do at least one question and then we'll finish out.

[PFT Commenter]

I have some questions too. So I knew you were doing a pod with Big Cat and Nick.

[Stavi]

Yes.

[PFT Commenter]

And I was like, I don't know what Stavi's gonna be ready for doing all these pod. This is like a marathon.

[Stavi]

I love it. No marathon thing. Well, we don't respect podcasting here at Stavi's World. Well, you guys actually have me. You guys plan out. You have you interview actual like people in. In the field. That's. That are interesting. We don't.

[PFT Commenter]

You interview me.

[Stavi]

Yeah, I got you, bro. I fucking peeked my head out of the office. I was like, who's around? Oh, pft. You got an hour for my 90 minute show it. We'll figure it out. Fuck these animals. That's kind of our viewpoint. But I'm glad. I love that you brought that, you know, stuff ready to go.

[PFT Commenter]

I just. I. I didn't really bring anything on my own. I asked other people to do my own for me.

[Stavi]

Okay, great, great.

[PFT Commenter]

So I just. I tweeted out go on Stavi's podcast, and, like, I want to bring my own questions to his show. Anything you want to know about Stavi?

[Stavi]

Love this. Love this.

[PFT Commenter]

Okay, so this is my first time looking at this. Does he make a mean avgolemono?

[Stavi]

Avgolemono? I don't. My mother does. It's a lemon drop soup or it's a lemon soup. Yeah, it's an egg lemon soup that Greek people do when you're feeling sick. I don't know how to make it. I'll be honest. When I was a little kid, the egg aspect of a soup freaked me the fuck out. Yeah, it did. I was a packaged ramen guy when I was sick. Sick. So I've come around to it as an adult, but I haven't gotten to the point where I make my own yet.

[PFT Commenter]

It's so good.

[Stavi]

It is a great soup, and it's.

[PFT Commenter]

An egg soup, but it doesn't have. It shouldn't have, like, the strands of egg, it's, like, whisked together.

[Stavi]

Yes. Well, now I like that stuff. Like, I like. There's certain Chinese soups that have the, like, you know, a little egg in there, whatever. But, yes, it's creamy.

[PFT Commenter]

Yeah.

[Stavi]

But no, unfortunately, to that person, I do not make a mean avo. Lemono.

[PFT Commenter]

Okay, this person want. There's a lot of questions about your weight here.

[Stavi]

Okay, Watch. Stavi gets Ripped, Season three coming out soon.

[PFT Commenter]

Ask him about the Thousand island stair debacle.

[Stavi]

There's no debacle. I just. Some might claim that I said Thousand island stare when I meant I don't even know Thousand yards. That's not. Doesn't prove. That's not good on my. On my behalf.

[PFT Commenter]

If I still can't remember the actual phrase.

[Stavi]

No, the phrase 10, whatever it was eight years later. Yeah. Thousand yards. There is what I definitely said. I don't even know. I don't even like Thousand island dressing.

[PFT Commenter]

So a lot of questions about if you can see your dad.

[Stavi]

I can. Thank you very much. It's gotten a little easier. It's gotten much easier.

[PFT Commenter]

Oh, here's a good one. What's the best way to keep the body fresh with summer being right around the corner? How do you freshen up?

[Stavi]

Well, I'd love to say that we have now gotten fat enough as a country where now we have not just deodorant sticks, but we have like thigh. Yeah, thigh chafe sticks. Like golden gold. Bond makes that. So that does make me feel fresh. Cause you eliminate kind of like that fat boy swamp nuts kind of situation. It's not powder, which feels weird. I feel like a baby when I powder. But this like, you glide on your thighs, you're feeling fresh. That's good. I mean, there's no secret here, right? You shower, you wear deodorant, you change your clothes, you shower a little more than you think you have to. And you change underwear and socks even if you don't shower. These are keys to be a fat person. That does not smell bad.

[PFT Commenter]

Are you a towel guy? Like, bring your own towel over your shoulder.

[Stavi]

I'm not an over the shoulder towel guy.

[PFT Commenter]

That is actually the best look, I think.

[Stavi]

Yeah, yeah.

[PFT Commenter]

Like, that guy is cool.

[Stavi]

That is the type of guy of theaters have asked me if I need a stage towel. And it does kind of, you know, hurt my feelings because they think I'm a constant dabber. I'm not on that tip. But no, that's. That's it, man. I mean, when you're also like, gum helps just general freshness, general positive smells. Gum just like, minty. You want to be like, fresh in general, overall.

[PFT Commenter]

Cover all your holes. All your holes.

[Stavi]

Freshen your holes up as much as possible. That's really wipes. Be a wet wipes guy. You're fat as shit. Who are you kidding? Shower more than you think you need to to change your socks and underwear, all that kind of stuff.

[PFT Commenter]

Are you on that whole body deodorant shit? Because I've seen there's so many of those commercials.

[Stavi]

And here's. Okay, you know what? I don't know. Now you're. This is good, because you're reminding me of a bit I keep forgetting to do. I think for sure the reason those are out is cause they're trying to get us ready for not having water. I think because, like, when have we ever talked about full body deodorant ever in the history of mankind? But now I have a really, like, my. Like, like, I think they're trying to get us to mad Max, where I think companies are going to start charging for water. We're not going to have access to the amount of water we think we are. And they're getting us ready for the idea of cleanliness, not necessarily needing water. So I hate full body deodorant. I think it's a sign of, like. It's a sign of a cataclysmic future to come.

[PFT Commenter]

That's next level thinking.

[Stavi]

Thank you. It is.

[PFT Commenter]

When. When that Soylent shit came out. You remember the soil drink?

[Stavi]

Yes.

[PFT Commenter]

I was like, they're trying to get us ready for not having food.

[Stavi]

Yeah. Yeah.

[PFT Commenter]

It's just like you drink your entire meal.

[Stavi]

That's. That's. That shows you again. Tech bros have no idea how ideas are how human beings. Soylent. They named it after Soylent Green, which. The dystopian thing, the famous. And we're not spoiling anything. It was a Simpsons joke too. Soylent Green is people, like, it's the dystopia of they're grinding up people and feeding it to you and they're calling it this wonder. And it's like, you name your product Soylent, you're fucking idiots. And of course it's not gonna take off. And there's been, like, competitors and shit like that.

[PFT Commenter]

Like, all the AI companies that are just. They're building Sky. Skynet.

[Stavi]

Yeah.

[PFT Commenter]

They saw Terminator and they're like, dude, that's great technology.

[Stavi]

No, they have no. Do you know the word. The term robot is from a short Russian science fiction. Like, they didn't even have a term for it. They stole it from an artist. Like, these guys have no creativity whatsoever. I mean, even that. The shitty Tesla cars. The new. The Cyber truck, it's just some like. It looks like robocop. Like. Yeah. There's no imagine. These people have no fucking imagination whatsoever.

[PFT Commenter]

You're forgetting how epic the Cyber truck is.

[Stavi]

Somebody lived in Austin in his 20s. You can't shake it. You can't shake that kind of thinking.

[PFT Commenter]

Susan Snatch wants to know, is Hasan as beautiful in person as on screen?

[Stavi]

He. It's all smoke and mirrors. He's got a fucking whole. He's got a whole team of beauticians over there. He's disgusting. In real life, he doesn't pay them. They're migrant workers. That he gives that he. That he threatens. He has all their passports. And if they talk back, he won't let them see their families for, you know, know, Ramadan. He's a real piece of, that guy.

[PFT Commenter]

I think his camera angle keeps getting, like, lower and lower so that his shoulders just look bigger and his head looks smaller. He's rocking like, Kyle Kuzma sweaters.

[Stavi]

He does, yes.

[PFT Commenter]

Just massive shirts.

[Stavi]

And he has that little ass head.

[PFT Commenter]

Yeah.

[Stavi]

Oh, the Alba cam. Overpowered again. That's right. You place one. One of our questions here before we.

[PFT Commenter]

Say goodbye to our friends.

[C]

Selected this. This is like really important one.

[Stavi]

So I think, okay, we'll do one and then we'll send PFT on as well. Way.

[E]

Hey, Stavi. Long time listener. Long time.

[Stavi]

Start us over. Big LD.

[PFT Commenter]

Me and Stavi were doing what's known as raw dog in this podcast.

[Stavi]

Oh, yeah. Oh yeah.

[E]

Hey, Savi, Long time listener, longtime fan. I have a little bit of a bad news and predicament that I'm in right now, actually. I. My wife just texted me that she is gonna potentially consider breast reduction surgery. Because of her bad back?

[Stavi]

No.

[E]

You know, she's talked about taking weight loss pills and everything. Help her back or work out more? Help her back.

[Stavi]

Yes.

[E]

How's getting to this stuff? I don't know.

[Stavi]

What.

[E]

I could too. I love my wife a lot and I think she's beautiful. I think she's sexy and everything. But problem is I really, really, really like her. Like her tits, you know, Definitely. Definitely a. A top tier feature.

[Stavi]

So. Sure.

[E]

What do I do? Is it. Is there. Is there a way to work around this?

[Stavi]

I mean, I have some thoughts actually.

[E]

For real tits really will hurt her back that much? You know, like, hopefully your guest can give me some good insight.

[Stavi]

Oh yeah. PFG's thought about this a lot.

[E]

Hopefully if you're a dumb Albanian, can give me insight. Sorry, Elvis, but I'm just interrupting.

[Stavi]

He's really out there. Still taking.

[C]

I usually get mad at the dumb Albanian comments, but I gotta let it slide right now.

[Stavi]

Dude, he's. He's. Yeah.

[E]

Walk to a waterfall. Am I going on my breakfast and stare off and consider what is. What is life?

[Stavi]

This is tough.

[E]

Thank you for this. Everything you do style. And hopefully you can give me some good insight.

[PFT Commenter]

Predicament.

[E]

Bye.

[Stavi]

Yeah, I mean, this is really, really tough, man. You hear in his voice, he's like. Some guys might ask this question and be joking. This is like a man who's up against it right now. He's staring at a horrible future that he's trapped in. In.

[PFT Commenter]

It's like a beautiful part of his life is dying.

[Stavi]

Wow.

[PFT Commenter]

He'll never get back. I think.

[Stavi]

I think I have some thoughts, but go ahead. Pft.

[PFT Commenter]

Well, she obviously, you know, she's in pain.

[Stavi]

Yeah.

[PFT Commenter]

You don't want your wife to be in pain. Sounds like you love her.

[Stavi]

Of course.

[PFT Commenter]

Why not just get her one of those old people scooters?

[Stavi]

Yeah.

[PFT Commenter]

Like honey.

[Stavi]

Yeah.

[PFT Commenter]

I know your back hurts from standing up all day. This is a great way to solve both of our problems.

[Stavi]

Your kids stay the same t. Stay.

[PFT Commenter]

The same size, and you don't have to worry about. About, you know, coming home with your C4 or whatever the. The vertebrae.

[Stavi]

Well, is there some kind of exoskeleton we can get her? You know what I mean? Is there some kind of like. Like, go. Go where they're doing, like, cutting edge research on people with spinal injuries, and they have, like a. An exoskeleton that, like, allows them to walk. Surely if she has that, she can keep her tits. Right? Now, if I'm going to. If I immediately. I immediately went into, like, when he's saying this, I'm like, all right, let's brainstorm real solutions here, right? Because I was like, what if this was me? And I think the tact I would take first and foremost is you cannot be like, no, you know what I mean? You can't be like, what, chop your tits off? No, you can't do that, right? Like, you can't have a breakdown when your wife says she might get a breast reduction. What I would do is because this, like, okay, she seems to have other. She has other back issues, right? And she's talking about weight loss pills. She's talking about working out more. I really would say. Here's how you phrase it. You don't talk. You don't talk about her tits. You just say, the surgical option should be our last option. That's what you say. Cause you know what I mean. Cause, like, it can be dangerous. Cause when it comes to even back injuries in general, they just tell you, like, if she didn't have tits. And they were like, either go on a strict workout Regimen, take these GLP1 or get back. Like, back surgery. Everyone tells you, never get the surgery. No surgery. No back surgery helps. Now she's not talking about back surgery. She's talking about tit surgery. But either way, you say it that way you're like, it scares me to think of you going under the knife. I know these are routines and this happens, but you never know. Mistakes happen, mistakes happen. It could just be. The recovery can be tough. So what you say, say is the. You say, like, the surgical option should be our last option. What can we do? Like, can we. You know, and now you need to be your. Your wife's weight loss coach to save her tits. This has to be your greatest job ever.

[PFT Commenter]

You almost have to get involved too. You have to.

[Stavi]

You have to wake up early. You meal prep. Yeah, we're doing this together. I don't want you going under the Knife. This has nothing to do with potentially losing your fat, luscious tits.

[PFT Commenter]

Yeah.

[Stavi]

This is just us because, you know, this is a wake up call. We're too young to be getting surgeries to help us. You know what I mean? Like, we have to change our lives and that's your only play if you're going to save these tits.

[PFT Commenter]

That's. I think you're right. I think you got to make this a team effort. You got to. You got to play the, like, very. He obviously cares about his wife, but you have to let her know that you care about her too.

[Stavi]

Of course.

[PFT Commenter]

And yeah, make that a team thing. And at the very least, just be like, if you get it, if you get them reduced, can we at least put into your ass?

[Stavi]

Yeah, yeah. Can we do a bbl? Absolutely. Can we keep this titty fat and put it in your ass cheeks? And even, you know, honestly what I just said, though, I actually do believe too, because now if she were calling me, right, and she's just like, hey, I'm a little overweight. I have these things, you know, I'm thinking about getting a reduction. I literally would say, like, try everything before you. I really do believe that. I just think that is also a good argument for him. Clearly he's not thinking cogently. He's thinking. He's like. He's a man who's like. He's like a wild animal just scrapping for anything. So we just have to give him. This is a good argument, actually believe it. When it comes to, like, I really do have back issues. That's another reason I was like, I really have to lose weight. Like, I have shoulder pain for everything. I'm like, I'm trying to lose weight. I'm trying to like. And. And a doctor told me they offer me back surgery, they offer me shoulder surgery. And I just, I know those are bad. And so I'm trying to do everything I can before that. And even like with weight loss, it was like, you know, back in the day, there was the like, lap band surgeries, all that kind of of stuff. I've started dabbling with the GLP1 stuff. The like Zepp Bound, it's something different. I'm on a really low dose, but I'm just trying it out. So it's like, I'm trying. I'm like, when you get medical shit involved, you want to do it slowly. And for a whole year I did nothing. I just, like took time off and I tried to lose weight to fix some of my health problems and they're slowly going down. Some of them are faster than others. Some I might not need medicine. Some I will need. You know, And I really would say, say if. If this is just an overall weight problem, I would try, because her titties are going to get smaller if she loses weight, too. They'll get smaller in a more natural way. So that's really, I think, the only play you got, pal.

[PFT Commenter]

Now, if it comes down to it, and she's like, I. I need to have the surgery. I have to have it done. They might. They might look perkier. Like, let's try to find. Maybe grass is greener.

[Stavi]

Okay.

[PFT Commenter]

Yeah, I guess they might just.

[Stavi]

I'm trying to help my man out. If I was him, I would f. I would go to the operating room and I wouldn't tell her this. And then as soon as she. Under the knife, I would commit seppuku in the. In the, like, waiting room.

[PFT Commenter]

I don't want to live in a.

[Stavi]

World and I would cut my guts open.

[PFT Commenter]

Do you think that there's a possibility that if he. If he expresses how he feels about his wife's tits in, like, a real genuine way to her, that she'll be like, you know, this is kind of cool that my. My husband still finds my tits so, so, like, devastatingly sexy?

[Stavi]

Yes.

[PFT Commenter]

That he won't. He can't bear to think of a world without them.

[Stavi]

I mean, I do think there is an. I think he can. I think he can wrap it up all in one bow where he's like, look, I. Obviously I love you, but I find you so attractive. I really love your tits. I do. Obviously your health is first and foremost, but if there's something we could do to keep these tits around, I'd really appreciate it. I do wonder that that goes to how. How good a relationship do they have? How truthful can you really be? Because I do think in a perfect relationship, you could be like, what if you had to get half of your dick chopped off? Would she be thrilled? Some women would be like, whatever, I don't give a fuck. Your dick's small anyway. Some women would start crying if you told them that. So it's like, I think men forget or don't want to feel too lecherous in a relationship, but it's like, it's your wife. You love her. You clearly are super attracted to her. That doesn't hurt to feel. There's a world where she just doesn't. She might think it doesn't matter. You don't see her like that. Anymore. And so if it helps her back and it doesn't affect you, she might be touched to know how much you're exact. Yeah, her fat tits mean to you.

[PFT Commenter]

And if she does get it, maybe you can get like a 3D laser imaging done or a mold. Get like a statue.

[Stavi]

She wears like a breastplate. Over time, every time you her, she puts the fake tits, the fake version of her old tits on her new shitty little tits.

[PFT Commenter]

Yeah. On her anniversary, for old time's sake, you want to bust out the old.

[Stavi]

Puppies, you make her put on a real doll suit of herself. Yeah, that's hilarious, dude. Yeah. So we got you a lot of good ideas here, buddy. You got to run.

[PFT Commenter]

I do. Yeah.

[Stavi]

Sorry.

[PFT Commenter]

We got an interview.

[Stavi]

It's all good.

[PFT Commenter]

You did the. The barstool car wash here.

[Stavi]

You did everything. I did. I did everything.

[PFT Commenter]

But, yeah. Sorry to.

[Stavi]

No, it's all good.

[PFT Commenter]

Stavi, people out there short changing come.

[Stavi]

Back whenever in New York. Hit me up, dude.

[PFT Commenter]

We'd love to have you go see Stavi live. I'll plug it for you. The show is very, very funny.

[Stavi]

Thank you, bro. Brother. We're gonna take a little break here. And we're gonna finish up with some calls after PNP gets out of here. Thanks, buddy. See you next time.

[C]

Yeah.

[Stavi]

Good to meet you.

[C]

Take it easy.

[PFT Commenter]

See you, boys.

[Stavi]

See you, dude. Holy. What the hell? What the hell is. Oh, is it time? I can't believe it. It's time to. Oh, eldest. It's time to keep it twisted. Holy. It's time to keep it twisted with this week's ass. Twisted ass question. So let's see. This is Bobby. You've never been in the twisted zone before.

[PFT Commenter]

I haven't. I'm a little.

[Stavi]

It's apprehensive. No, don't. Don't be, man. Keeping it twisted is all about having a good time with delicious brew. Twisted teas with naturally brewed iced tea. Oh, great flavors. We're talking peach, half and half, raspberry original. They go down smooth and they're just right for any occasion. Isn't that right, Eldis? Keep it twisted.

[C]

Oh, yeah.

[Stavi]

Why don't you hit us with a ass twisted question of the week. Nice. You picked a nice short one, El.

[F]

Hope everything's good. Love you guys. I'll just dive right in. This happened recently?

[E]

Last night.

[F]

Dealing with the fallout this morning. So I have a boys group chat. And these are boys from middle school.

[Stavi]

His boys now or. Yeah, 12 year olds. Obviously, our humor, that would be a little too twisted. For us much. Keep going. We heard it.

[F]

Jesus Christ has not moved on much. We say very edgy things.

[Stavi]

We're all put together guys.

[F]

Obviously in our early days, 30s, but sometimes we say random, pretty bad stuff.

[Stavi]

Okay.

[F]

Now, last night, my girl saw some of the texts that were flying back and forth. Definitely don't flatter me. We were talking about threesomes with her and her cute friend.

[Stavi]

You and your friends. We're talking about your girlfriend and her friend.

[F]

Her cute friend. And I definitely started it.

[PFT Commenter]

Yeah, okay.

[F]

With your boys, he's like this group chat, anything, right? We just say whatever without thinking. Fired off some text regarding it. I started it. You know, Obviously other. The other boys chipped in. It got pretty good and graphic this morning. He's packing up her.

[Stavi]

You're letting your. Okay, I'm sorry, man. We like to keep it twisted here. We like keeping it twisted. And we might even make a joke. A little quick offhand joke, but graphically talking. Your boys are graphically talking about your girlfriend friend. And you're like, we're just edgy guys, man.

[PFT Commenter]

We're obviously put together.

[Stavi]

All right, so far, you're keeping it a little too twisted for my taste. Sure. Do we say crazy in our group chat with our. You know, me and Elsa been friends forever. We have a group chat with our pals. Yes. We say wild. We keep it twisted in there, but we don't keep it talk about, you know, getting you somebody. Someone's girlfriends in the ass twisted. You know what I mean? We got keep it just the right amount of twisted. Go ahead, elders. Let's see what else he has to say.

[F]

Obviously, I've been apologizing and kind of explaining, trying to explain how these boys. Group chats from the beginning.

[Stavi]

Oh, you're toast. Kind of so toast. It's crazy.

[F]

I really love this girl. I wanted to wipe her.

[PFT Commenter]

You wanted to wife her lover, but.

[F]

Now she's moving out.

[Stavi]

She's moving out.

[PFT Commenter]

Wow.

[Stavi]

What were they saying? Keep it twisted. You kept it. All right, like I said, this is. Maybe we need a separate segment called when keeping it twisted goes wrong when you keep it too twisted. The beauty of keeping it twisted is you keep it just twisted enough. You have a couple ice cold twisted teas at a barbecue at a bar with some friends, and you know what I mean? That's keeping it twisted. Did not. Oh, wouldn't it be awesome if my girlfriend throated your guy's. What the hell's wrong with you, man? All right, anyway, go ahead, elders.

[F]

He basically says, we're done. Just any advice on how to proceed and move forward regarding this? Because, you know, anything I say or try and justify, I mean, obviously it's fucked up. Definitely a learning situation. But yeah, any advice on how to proceed? Because yeah, really love her and looks like she's done.

[Stavi]

Yeah.

[F]

Yeah. Anyway, love you guys. Have a good one.

[Stavi]

See. Wow, this is tough, man. Like you, like you twist it.

[PFT Commenter]

You can always untwist. You twist it and tied it like in a knot.

[Stavi]

Yeah. Too twisted, man. I mean, look, if we have some advice for you. Well, she's moving out. I mean, she didn't even say. I have to go. I have to go to my sister's for the weekend. I have to blow. I have to think about this. This. She got a U haul. Her shit's in there, bro. You're. I mean, how moved out is she? Okay, if, like, if she's already. If she's of all her shit's packed up and she sent you a Venmo for half of the shared plates and shit, you're done right now. If she, if she did do some version of packing a suitcase.

[PFT Commenter]

Sure.

[Stavi]

And leaving for even a week or.

[PFT Commenter]

Two could be salvageable.

[Stavi]

Maybe. Maybe if you give her some time and then are so insanely apologetic. Whatever. But I mean, I also kind of. I mean, I see where she's coming from. Yeah. You let your friends talk about her and you really. And you hit him with the haha reaction.

[PFT Commenter]

So it was a couple exclamation points.

[Stavi]

Yeah. Yeah. Unless you gotta be like, baby, I thumbs it down, dog. I don't know what to tell you. You kept it too twisted. This is a learning situation. My only advice, get back to keeping it twisted the right way with some ice cold twisted tea. Have a nice time. Think go with your buddies and let this be a lesson. Like, okay, from now on, we keep it less twisted than that. We keep it twisted. Twisted, but we don't keep it so twisted we lose a relationship with someone we live with. I mean, I can't even imagine what you're saying.

[PFT Commenter]

It must have been true.

[Stavi]

And we say insanely up. But like, that is. That is something that. Yeah. Even amongst the. Even amongst the boys. It's like you kind of. There. There is a little old fashioned. Like, all right, man.

[PFT Commenter]

Yeah.

[Stavi]

We don't get into. We don't graph by virtue of.

[PFT Commenter]

Of the fact that they felt free to do that. This is clearly. There's a long line of this sort of behavior. And he's clearly. You got to have. I hate to say proprietary, but, like.

[Stavi]

Yeah, dude, this is your girlfriend or.

[PFT Commenter]

Wife or whatever you let you. I mean, what do you have any respect for or not?

[Stavi]

And also, I mean, we also don't know what she's mad at. She might be mad that you were pining after her hot friend. That's another thing. She might. She might be like, all right, well, whatever the. I know you guys are idiots and you're saying disgusting. And I could. I'd be pissed at you, but I'd get over it. You're just open you want to my friend. I thought you were actually becoming her friend. Like, we're moving in together. I thought my friends are your friends. You're talking about titty her with your. With your idiot. With your idiot. Like, friends from middle school. So you kept it too twisted. Yeah. A waiting. The only way to come. Come back. Keep it the right amount of twisted with Twisted Tea. Have a nice ice cold twisted Tea. Give this woman some space. Check in in like a week. Send some flowers, whatever. But let's be honest, man. You can't. You. You kept it a little too twisted.

[PFT Commenter]

Yeah.

[Stavi]

Keep it twisted. You kept it a little too twisted. So crack open a twisted Tea. Couple here or there at a barbecue. Couple here or there with the fellows. That's fine. Don't overdo. Do it. That's keeping it too twisted. That. I'll put you right back in the situation that you started in and starting your life, man. This one's over. You blew it. You kept it. You kept it too twisted with this woman. But lucky for you, Twisted Tea is here.

[PFT Commenter]

Thank God.

[Stavi]

Whoa. Oh. We're going back to the regular episode Twisted. And we're back, folks. We were going to do this episode. PFD had a very important. He had to go call an NFL coach a. Yeah. That is his job. It's awesome.

[PFT Commenter]

It is a pretty sweet job.

[Stavi]

Yeah.

[PFT Commenter]

When you get down to it, that's what a lot of my job is. Be like, yeah, you know what, Patrick Queen, you're kind of a. I could probably beat you up.

[Stavi]

And he is for abandoning the race Ravens. But. And we were gonna just do the solo and then I. I had to. I took a. That was so long. It was pretty much PFT's whole interview. So we were like, ah, why don't we just wait for PFT to get done? I'm here anyway. And so we're back. And let's use some of that beautiful wisdom to the people. Eldis, what else we got? Hey, Savvy.

[G]

Big fan, longtime fan. Fan saw you in Denver on tour.

[Stavi]

Love the show.

[G]

Keep doing what you're doing. So it's not a crazy story or anything. Just a heartbroken girl who got ghosted and looking for a male perspective. Yeah. So basically I didn't even know you could be ghosted after like a month plus of consistent dating. And that just happened to me. I had a man that had been like pursuing me, I'd say pretty hard for like over a month. Like dates, flowers, sleepovers.

[Stavi]

Yeah.

[G]

You know, we went like skiing together, would cook together.

[PFT Commenter]

It's a one month thing all the time.

[G]

Take walks and he turned into a ghost. So yeah, basically like at morning it I've cried. Like in our last texting interaction, I tried to open up the conversation a little bit and he hit me with a thumbs up reaction which felt like a pretty clear.

[Stavi]

A. You took.

[G]

So you know there's still a part of me that's like, what the hell just happened?

[Stavi]

Sure.

[G]

That basically like a perfect gentleman was airdropped into my life and then I blinked and he was gone.

[Stavi]

Yeah.

[G]

As if it never happened.

[Stavi]

Damn.

[G]

So, yeah, so it's just been like emotional whiplash starting getting my to get in my head. Like, what did I do wrong? Things were going so well. He was investing a lot into me.

[H]

It felt like.

[Stavi]

Yeah.

[G]

So would love your thoughts, your male perspective.

[Stavi]

Sure.

[G]

Did I just get a more subtle and longer form of love bombing performed on me or like did he lose feelings? Was he never that serious? Okay, appreciate it. Love you guys.

[E]

Bye.

[Stavi]

Yeah, I mean, did you say how old she was?

[PFT Commenter]

I don't know. But she's definitely attractive.

[Stavi]

100%.

[PFT Commenter]

100% attractive. I'm not going off the voice on that. No, she is amazed that she got ghost.

[Stavi]

Yeah, I know. She's like, I didn't know know you could get ghosted after a month. Like the con, like a meteor could come out of the sky and destroy your house. Like weird shit happens. Getting ghosted a month in is definitely within the realm of possibilities.

[PFT Commenter]

This guy stopped responding to my text. What's the what. What is going on right now?

[Stavi]

I think that is a hot girl wake up call where it's like you're in the real world. Maybe she moved to a better city. You know what I mean? Like she just doesn't though like tens get mistreated in New York. You know what I mean? Like she must just like that's a little bit of that. You know, there's. That's definitely very.

[PFT Commenter]

And that's not her fault. She was Born like that.

[Stavi]

Born like that. Yes.

[PFT Commenter]

It's a disability.

[Stavi]

Yeah, it is. It can. It really can be. So a lot's going on here. Right. And I think you're right. First things first is she's hot.

[PFT Commenter]

Yep.

[Stavi]

But this is also just a rude awakening in general. Whether that's the point in her life that she's at, where it's like, you know, maybe you're younger and the guys you're around just kind of, like, fawn over you once you're an adult, like, yeah, people pop it. You. You just meet people that, like, don't value you the way other people used to value you. And in terms of what happened, if we had to do a postmortem, I wouldn't even say this is necessarily subtle love bombing. This feels like love bombing 101 to me. I also think there is some. Something. I think at the heart of this, this guy's a coward. We can start there, right? Because if this was somebody who. And this is something I struggled with when I, you know, when I was younger and just being upfront about what I want, like, you know, like, you know, I'm in a place in my life now where I don't. I don't have time for a real. A serious relationship, and, like, I want to go have fun. If we have a nice connection, like, we'll keep in touch. If I'm wearing your city, whatever. Like, maybe I will go. So maybe not skiing, but, like, you know, I mean, like, maybe I'll go have a fun weekend with somebody. I. I don't. That I date very casually just because that's what I like to do. But I try and be upfront and say, hey, look, here's where I am in my life. We can go do some cool, fun stuff. If you're not into that. I totally get it because it is weird, right? It's weird to just kind of pop into someone's life and be like, let me take you on a sick vacation. You know, like, Right.

[PFT Commenter]

The first couple months or whatever. It sounds like. Yeah. He also might have gotten scared because he did all this stuff in the first month. He's like, I'm actually just exactly exhausted.

[Stavi]

Yeah, yeah, yeah.

[PFT Commenter]

That was a lot.

[Stavi]

He might have bit off more than he can chew. I will also say, thinking back to when I was a piece of shit with women, like more of a fuckboy, it's like, what could be possible? What happened to me multiple times in relationships is you do all this stuff, and then your fear of commitment kicks in and so this guy could very well be making a mistake here. Right?

[PFT Commenter]

Yeah.

[Stavi]

That is. That actually is possible. He might regret this. I have. If it's any consolation, and I know it's not because she's just sad now and this isn't going to work either way. Even if this guy comes back around, it's not going to work. You're always going to be afraid, like, is he just going to abandon me again? Like, you can't build a solid relationship on this kind of foundation. But that is also one of the possibilities is that he did get swept up. He was having a good time, and it got too good. He's scared of a relationship. Relationship. He did move too fast, and he kind of spooked. It's like, you know when you think you're getting along with an alley cat and you're like. And it's slowly coming at you, then you, like, try and lunge and grab it.

[PFT Commenter]

You put the tuna down too fast.

[Stavi]

Yes, yes, yes. Exactly.

[PFT Commenter]

Get scared of the clank.

[Stavi]

Exactly. That could be what's happening here.

[PFT Commenter]

It could. I'm thinking that there's a chance this guy maybe is in another relationship.

[Stavi]

Exactly. That was another possibility for sure.

[PFT Commenter]

Perhaps his significant other was out of town for like a month and a half.

[Stavi]

Yes.

[PFT Commenter]

And he was saying to himself, I'm going to sew my wild oats for a little bit.

[Stavi]

Right.

[PFT Commenter]

Let's have a fling.

[Stavi]

This could definitely be cheater stuff, because cheaters, it's like, they have the time they have for you. They like, they re like, they take you. They're like, oh, let's go out for the weekend. Let's go to a city nobody knows. Right. For the weekend. You know what I mean?

[PFT Commenter]

Like, yes. The. The divorced dad coming in for his, you know, every other weekend you're going to go. You're going to go to the amusement.

[Stavi]

Park, you're going to Sizzler, get you all the funnel. Okay. Yeah, exactly. Yes. That's kind of what I say. Dating me is like, where it's like, look, I'm not around a lot. I'm like your deadbeat dad that comes around once a month, and you have an awesome weekend. And then it's like, you might never hear from me again.

[PFT Commenter]

You speed away in your convertible.

[Stavi]

So that. I think that's actually. That. That's something I thought about too. And it. It might not even be necessarily dating some or like, in a committed relationship. He might just be the kind of guy. Guy that had a. Has a couple, has a bit of a roster Going on.

[PFT Commenter]

Yeah.

[Stavi]

And it's like you're a high profile draft pick that he tried out just as a starter and he was like, this actually isn't working for us. Let's trade her for fourth round picks.

[PFT Commenter]

His roster is so full right now. There's no peace. Because you would be like a prime piece of a contender and you should be.

[Stavi]

And you deserve that, by the way. You deserve to be a prime piece. Somebody builds their life around, especially in Denver.

[PFT Commenter]

I feel like Denver has a lot of dudes. Dudes in Denver.

[Stavi]

Yeah, there is some. There's some pretty hot girls in Denver. Yeah, yeah, yeah, they're around for sure. So that does make sense to me why it's den. You know what I mean? Maybe she moved to Denver, you know what I mean? Maybe she's like small town, Midwest, mountains, whatever, to the big city, gets fucking treated poorly for the first time, gets womanized for the first time. But yeah, I think your instincts to mourn this and to let this go are correct. Because. Because look, best case scenario, we're just dealing with an incredibly immature guy. Somebody who you don't want, somebody who doesn't communicate what they want. Overdid. It got too lovey dovey for you and for him, probably that's best case scenario is somebody who's a very poor communicator and is so scared of any kind of conflict. Maybe he did just want to break up. Maybe he's just something. But he can't even. He's such a coward. He won't even just have that conversation with you.

[PFT Commenter]

Yeah, the fact that he's not replied, that he's emphasizing text messages. Thumbs up, That's a him problem.

[Stavi]

The last thing you say to someone you date, like, and I don't even, by the way, I'm not that. I think ghosting is kind of a. It makes sense in like a casual. There's certain instances where it's like, look, we went out a little bit here and there. It's not the best thing in the world, but it's. People really over overdo it. You're gonna get your. Is it re. Is a half thought out apology breakup text that much better than getting ghosted?

[PFT Commenter]

Well, the thumbs up is the worst.

[Stavi]

The thumbs up's crazy.

[PFT Commenter]

I would rather get a thumbs down. I would. I'd rather be like, is there a chance maybe we can just talk about this? At least I can know if I did something wrong so I can try to work on myself. Yeah, I would much rather get the thumbs down at that Point than like.

[Stavi]

Thumbs up and no response 100.

[PFT Commenter]

Let's like just end it.

[Stavi]

Yeah, absolutely. The thumbs downs all I actually would have respected a thumbs down. But either way, like the thing about ghosting is yes, you'd like it some, you'd like to know for sure. But closure is bullshit. That's a myth that doesn't really happen. You are going to feel this way. Like if a guy you really didn't see it coming out of anywhere breaks up with you after a month, you're not going to feel better than if you get going ghosted. You might just be a little. You're in the dark for less time. But ultimately you got the point either way. So best case scenario, there's somebody, you don't really want your life. Worst case scenario, this is like a weird manipulative guy who might be cheating, who might whatever and if he pops his head back in, you don't want that. You know what I mean? And if. And I will say the only advice I will give you because again, I'm talking about dealing with versions of me where I would do this right? And then I would get spooked and then I would go away and then I would like weasel my way and then I'd be like, fuck, I miss her. I was an idiot. And I would weasel my way back into, you know, some of these girls lives. It was never good.

[PFT Commenter]

Do you ever do the like I apologize for being a weasel conversation.

[Stavi]

I would now because I do think I'm different.

[PFT Commenter]

Yeah.

[Stavi]

But I never did that. I mean I guess I would do be like I'm just so fricking effed up. I'm sorry. Which is like pathetic.

[PFT Commenter]

But you're just saying that just so that you can get.

[Stavi]

Just to get another crack. Yeah, just to get another crack at it.

[PFT Commenter]

You don't mean any of it.

[Stavi]

Yeah, not at the time I didn't or I thought I did, but who knows. So what I'm going to tell you is like move. You know, this is just par for the course. If this guy pops his head back in, the only way you should even consider is to be like we have to be very explicit about what we're looking for. And don't lead him either. Just see what he wants. And if he says anything you, you don't like, don't. Don't even accept it. I lean towards, just move on completely. This is just not somebody who you want to build, you know, build a relationship with. And yeah, also I. But just to take again, devil's advocate, he Might have gone on a little too strong, but the skiing's a little crazy. But also, at the end of the day, it is a month. What's consistent dating in a month mean? Three dates. You know what I mean? Like a few dates in that weekend trip. Like that's something.

[PFT Commenter]

But, you know, you bring flowers maybe on the second date, I guess the.

[Stavi]

Flowers and the love bombing, though.

[PFT Commenter]

Love bombing is one of the. I know it's a real thing and I know that like, it can be a big warning sign if it's taken to.

[Stavi]

If you're associate. But it's also like. Also when you first sue me, I'm more fucking enthusiastic. When something is new and fun, everyone's like that. Some of this is just. This guy's sin is just not being open. It's not even if you. If you go all out, like, let's say. Let's play devil's the advocate and say he was court her in a nice way. None of this sounds bad until the ghosting. So if he gave her his best shot and then for whatever reason, he realized, I don't think this is going anywhere. If this guy says, I had a great time with you, I don't regret any of it. But I'm realizing I'm not ready for this. I feel too strong. Whatever. If he just says anything to her, she's sad. But he's not a bad guy. So I don't know that coming on strong is necessarily the problem. The problem is just not communicating.

[PFT Commenter]

Yeah.

[Stavi]

So. Yeah. Good luck. We're sorry. You're dealing with heartbreak for the first time as a hot woman. Get back out on that horse. There's somebody out there who's gonna treat you right. Who's gonna stick around for the long haul. Baby girl. Yeah.

[PFT Commenter]

There's some guys out there that like hot chicks still. You'd be okay.

[Stavi]

They're still out there.

[PFT Commenter]

We all have our types.

[Stavi]

We all have our little quirks.

[D]

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[H]

LD Eldis and esteemed guest hey Savvy. As someone who isn't married, I need your take. Basically I'm in a six year relationship.

[Stavi]

Six years.

[H]

Everything's great, no issues there. We trust each other, we communicate well and we just honestly we just have a laugh like it's. It's great. However, trying to place the My boyfriend is a few years older than me, turning 30 this year. We just been to the first wedding of four weddings this year and they're all either his family or friends. Like my group are definitely not.

[Stavi]

Stage.

[H]

Right now but at the wedding we were just at there were a few comments thrown around about how he needs to wife me up, put a ring on it, etc and here lies the issue. I guess my view is that I don't, I don't think I want to get married or have kids because well, the way I kind of rationalize it to myself is I feel like I'd only be doing it because society expects me to do it, not because it's genuinely what I want to do deep down. However, I'm also that annoying woke person who like hates establishment and that gets a kick out of I guess going against the grain. So then on the flip side I'm asking myself, do I actually not want to get married and have kids because I just enjoy being difficult and annoying which is maybe my ego and isn't being true to myself either. I don't know if that even makes.

[Stavi]

Sense, but it does.

[H]

I mean kids is pretty much flat out no, nothing's. Nothing's coming out of that or marriage. Is it something I should reconsider? I think my partner is fairly keen to do both and I love him very much but I'm not really sure where that leaves us. Anyway, love you babes.

[Stavi]

Bye. Yeah and I think I'm going to land with Scottish or I don't think it's Irish.

[PFT Commenter]

I thought it was Irish. The third I think.

[Stavi]

Yeah, I guess could be Scottish. I think that I don't know. Well either way, sorry if we're wrong.

[PFT Commenter]

This is a very important question and let's definitely get to it but I just want to. I've got a take that I've been brewing on Please, like, please. I don't think that the new Outback Steakhouse voice guy is actually Australian. Listen to his voice.

[Stavi]

I think I've. I've only heard the, the. I've only heard the commercial in passing.

[PFT Commenter]

Yeah.

[Stavi]

But it's really over the top.

[PFT Commenter]

It's like no rules, just right. It's like that's not, that's not. It's somebody pretending to do an Australian accent. I don't know how we can prove it or how.

[Stavi]

Look up Outback Sega's voice actor Eldis.

[PFT Commenter]

But Stavi, I love that your audience trusts you so much.

[Stavi]

Yeah.

[PFT Commenter]

That they hit you up and they're like, stavi, should I get married? And like I can think of no better. No better compliment that a man can have with his audience. That they trust you that implicitly.

[Stavi]

Yes. Well, I do. I have some thoughts here. Okay, so apparently it's this guy, Toby Ricketts.

[PFT Commenter]

Where's he from?

[Stavi]

Where is he from? Let's find out.

[PFT Commenter]

He's a British.

[Stavi]

British. Over British. Oh, wait, wait. Dialects ranging from. He specializes. But where is he from? He doesn't want. I bet you he doesn't want to say.

[C]

Yeah, he's a chameleon man.

[PFT Commenter]

Just. He's not Australian.

[Stavi]

I'm telling you, Toby, Rick is a multi award winning national voiceover. 25 plus years of experience. Where is he from? Where did he grow up? His custom built studio. Studio.

[C]

I don't know if we're gonna find it.

[PFT Commenter]

In the heart of New Zealand. Studio in the heart of New Zealand.

[Stavi]

Okay.

[PFT Commenter]

I knew there was something up.

[Stavi]

So. Something a little off. Yeah, not quite. It's like Canada, but it's a little.

[PFT Commenter]

I think there's a difference.

[Stavi]

There's a difference.

[PFT Commenter]

I think vgmoy.

[Stavi]

Yeah.

[PFT Commenter]

As opposed to Vegemite.

[Stavi]

All right. I'm glad we got, you know, vindicated. Pft.

[PFT Commenter]

Yeah, I feel good, honestly. Like, that is. That's maybe the best take of it.

[Stavi]

Right? You called that. They tried to us up and they did overdo it. Like he' it's very. I feel like it's a more intense. There's more bells and whistles on his voice. I think now going back to private equity.

[PFT Commenter]

That's what that does.

[Stavi]

Yeah, dude, they cut it down.

[PFT Commenter]

They're ruining our voice actors.

[Stavi]

Australians need to be voicing our fake Australian chain that was started in like Florida or something. Okay. So our pal here, now there's a couple things going on here. One the same. Like I think our friend is dealing with sort of like, like the kind of like Militant girl version of like, we were like kind of trolls early in our youth, like in our 20s. And we talked about it earlier in the episode where it's like you're kind of trying. You were like this, your whole Persona was a character. You were never really yourself. And like when old men try and stay trolls and try and be dude, there's nothing more pathetic than an edgy 40 year old man. Right? Like, oh, I'm, I'm going there. You don't have anything to say. You just like getting a rise out of people. I think you could argue the flip side of that is like, is like a girl who like, you know, in college, like fuck the patriarchy. I'm never have, I'm never getting married. And then you kind of grow up and you're like, I probably don't want kids, but I love this guy. And making a commitment to him is not the same as like, like, I think maybe our first friend here might be holding on to like her more extreme values of youth. Everybody softens in youth. Yeah, I don't believe that. I think there's a bullshit thing of like, the older you get, the more conservative you get. I don't think that's true at all. I think you're. If that's true, you're selfish and like, you know, there's, there's that adage, but I think whatever you are, most people don't become more extreme with age. Yeah, they tend to soften.

[PFT Commenter]

You see the nuance everywhere.

[Stavi]

I mean, I guess a lot of people are getting weirdly radicalized by Qanon shit these days, but it's not, it's not who they were. They just become a totally different person.

[PFT Commenter]

Right. They're a change in one way or the other, depending on how angry you are at the time for sure.

[Stavi]

I, and I guess actually maybe the world is getting so much worse that I probably have a little more extreme like redistribution politics than I did. But I would say from a person, something so personal. Like, like, I think like it's easy to have certain ideas. Ideas. And then you're faced with them when you grow up and you're like the idea of like marriage as an institution. That's easy to say when you're 20 and you, you haven't met someone you love more than anything. You haven't met someone that you want to settle down with. And then you meet them and you're like, like you could do, you could have a commitment ceremony. You don't have to get married in a church. Yeah, I Married eldest, for Christ's sake. It wasn't a real. It wasn't a real ceremony.

[PFT Commenter]

Did you ever somebody that was ordained by like minister.

[Stavi]

I was ordained by the Universal Life Church.

[C]

He was ordained, but it was fake. Cuz we already like did it at City Hall. We just kind of did it for, you know, the wow factor.

[PFT Commenter]

This restaurant, this. I don't want to say this type of girl, cuz she sounds actually very well adjusted.

[Stavi]

I love her. Look, she's one of our. She's one. She's a subscriber. You know what I mean? Yeah.

[PFT Commenter]

But I. I have seen this type of person in romcoms before.

[Stavi]

This is a classic rom com where.

[PFT Commenter]

It'S like, I will never settle down with it. No man can treat me as good enough as I will treat myself.

[Stavi]

Exactly, exactly.

[PFT Commenter]

And then you meet Prince Charm and you're like, I will suck his dick. Like that sort of thing. I'm not saying that's where she's at, but I. I do.

[Stavi]

I know what you're talking about. You're talking. It's more like workaholic, has no time for a man. Cuz she's married to the job. That's kind of the romcom thing for sure. Like Matthew McConaughey comes in and then he's laid back and he's. And he's annoys you. But there's just something about him, you know, like yes, this is a different person. But yes, I know what you're talking about. And by the way, the way those rom com characters statistically are correct, single, like women without children, like they, they have all these like mortality statistics. It's like. And it's. And I'm not saying you shouldn't do it because I think you're clearly sacrificing something for the next generation. But it's like women without kids. Like if you look at like quality of life.

[PFT Commenter]

Yeah.

[Stavi]

Like mortality. Like there's just so much unmarried women that have it because like in. In most of our family is just like the women are fucking. Like a lot of women, like sacrifice a lot for like my friends who have kids. Like the women, like my friends who have kids, the dudes, they're like, yeah, it's pretty fun. You know, it's a lot. You know, sleep's a little bad and then. But your. Your friends who are girls that have newborn babies, they're like, I've thought about myself every day. Even though he's the light of my life. You know what I mean? Like the, the what it takes out of a woman is crazy. So I get where she's coming from.

[PFT Commenter]

The dads are like, like I, I don't get to play as much golf as I'd like to. Women are like, I had to go to the doctor four times last week cuz I had a nipple infection.

[Stavi]

Yes, yes, exactly. Oh. So dude, when they're feeding on. You're literally sucking life out of. Sucking your life force.

[PFT Commenter]

Yeah.

[Stavi]

Like you're literally, it's like crazy.

[PFT Commenter]

I'm drinking, I'm drinking her bones right now.

[Stavi]

I made my mom melt down some of her bones so I can suck them out of her tits.

[PFT Commenter]

Yeah, no, this, in this case I understand. Understand actually I completely understand why a woman in her teens, 20s, maybe even 30s, like they might not really be super into the prospect of marriage because they're hanging out with a bunch of 23 year old guys.

[Stavi]

True.

[PFT Commenter]

And do you really.

[Stavi]

Nobody who you want to settle down.

[PFT Commenter]

With, nobody should want to marry a 23 year old guy.

[Stavi]

That's a great word.

[PFT Commenter]

We were, I was the biggest piece of.

[Stavi]

When I was 22. Are you kidding me?

[PFT Commenter]

Unmarriable.

[Stavi]

Without question.

[PFT Commenter]

Unmarriable. In fact, it would be like that the kind of girl that would want to marry me at 23, I wouldn't want to marry either.

[Stavi]

Of course.

[PFT Commenter]

Like it's, it's. As you get older, you start to mature a little bit. You find nuance and things. I don't know if it's soft around the edges, but you, you develop a better understanding about why people are the.

[Stavi]

Way they are and who you are.

[PFT Commenter]

By the way, and who you are too.

[Stavi]

You have a, you have this fake understanding of this is the type of person I'm going to be and then you actually face stuff and you might react differently than you thought you would and you realize who you actually are and you, you know, just, it's very fluid. The more you, the more you age.

[PFT Commenter]

Yeah. In, in her case, I would say that divorce is an option.

[Stavi]

Sure, sure.

[PFT Commenter]

If you don't have kids, yeah, divorce, it's sad. It sucks.

[Stavi]

Sure.

[PFT Commenter]

Everybody's upset for a little bit. It will affect your future relationships because you'll be thinking you'll. You might spend time blaming yourself for things. It can fuck with you mentally. But divorce is a viable option if you decide, said, I don't really want to be with this guy for the rest of my life.

[Stavi]

And the other thing I'll say is like, yes, I agree. And if you love him and you really want that, that's fine. Now what now? So basically, I think we're kind of landing on. You're not. You're not betraying your belief system if you get married to somebody you love more than anything in the world. That's not. Don't be that fucking dumb.

[PFT Commenter]

All those poems I wrote in college don't mean anything to me.

[Stavi]

Yes, exactly. So. But now the only thing that kind of got me my antenna up a little bit is that she definitely doesn't want kids. And at the very end, she says, I think my partner is keen on both. Now, that is the actual deal breaker. Because if this is the guy that you love, you have this great relationship with, and you say, hey, I don't really want to get married in the church. I don't want to make a big deal about it, but I love you. I want to be with you for a forever. And he wants that too. And then you're like, of course, like I've told you now that's changed. But I want to be very clear. I never want kids. And this is not something if you don't want. If you really want them, we shouldn't get married. Because this is not something I'm going to change my mind on. I don't want you pressuring me. Because sometimes I think people do that too, whether they want kids or they don't want kids. They think they can change a fundamental opinion of their partner, and they're like, we'll cross that bridge when we get to it. And then you get there. And that's the act. To me, I think this couple could get married, no problem. I think the problem would be if he really wants kids and you really don't want kids. That's why you don't get married. Not because of some idea of wanting to be like a contrarian to your mom or whatever the fuck.

[PFT Commenter]

Right? I think you would. If he really wanted kids, you would either go through a phase where one person was pressuring the other, you get into a lot of fights, and then on the outcome of that, you would have. You would carry resentment towards that person without question. And if you didn't have resentment to him for him constantly being like, do you want kids? You want kids? He would hold resentment like, I'm never going to have the life that I.

[Stavi]

Wanted, that I really wanted. Yeah.

[PFT Commenter]

And he. Even if you guys grow old together, it'll be like that old couple that just hate each other. No idea why they live together. They just go out to eat, like once a week. They don't talk at the dinner table.

[Stavi]

Yeah, yeah.

[PFT Commenter]

That's very awkward for everybody, of course. So you.

[Stavi]

A lot of places for love to disappear, that's for sure. So, yeah. You're still relatively young, it sounds like. She says he's 30, she's a couple years younger. You just have to, again, let that shit go of what you thought. You're in a place now where this. Where your life is really like, but actually talk about the stuff that matters. I think marriage is something you can sort of, you know, cave on if you want to look at it that way. But kids, it's sounds like, you know, she seems pretty dead set. So just whatever it is, make sure you guys are on the same page. And. And it can't be sad, by the way. It sucks if you completely line up except for kids. And that happens, you know, and some people really don't want them. And I get that. I'm a wishy washy guy. I could go either way, honestly.

[PFT Commenter]

She's gone to what, four weddings? So you're all. That's been like, the only thing you've been thinking about.

[Stavi]

Yeah. You're going through the gauntlet, too.

[PFT Commenter]

The gauntlet. So you're always thinking about weddings. Everyone around you is getting buried. Like, when I moved to New York, I never. I never liked the Knicks ever. But then the Knicks started winning some games. I'm like, kind of fun being in the atmosphere of. Of the Knicks winning a playoff game.

[Stavi]

It's all love.

[PFT Commenter]

I kind of hope the Knicks win tonight.

[Stavi]

Yeah, yeah, yeah.

[PFT Commenter]

That would be great. That's what you're going through.

[Stavi]

You go to enough weddings, you're like.

[PFT Commenter]

I could see myself.

[Stavi]

I could be one of these.

[PFT Commenter]

Getting drunk in a suit.

[Stavi]

Yeah. With my. The people I actually like in the world. Yeah, it is. They are fun. A good wedding's fun. Great. But, yeah, good luck out. There are some. We're good. I guess our guess was Scottish. Hopefully we're right.

[F]

What's up? Stuff. I'm 23 years old. I'm a relatively thin dude, relatively honest and kind of putting it lightly. I'm a. I'm skin and bones, man. I'm 6 foot 2. I'm 130 pounds.

[Stavi]

Oh, my God.

[F]

And no matter what I do, I can't gain weight. But that's not even the point of this. My point is that I got a lot of larger friends. A lot of my friends are on the heavier side. And I feel like I can kind of relate to them in the way that, like, they struggle with weight loss, I struggle with weight gain.

[Stavi]

Sure.

[F]

You know, and I just, I don't know how to like talk to them about that without just like sounding like a narcissistic fucking asshole being like, like, oh yeah, man. Like I can eat whatever the I want and I just never gain the weight. But like, even right now I feel shitty talking to you about this.

[Stavi]

But what the.

[F]

It is like similar struggle and I just, I want to know how I can talk to them about that. Thanks.

[PFT Commenter]

On your steps.

[Stavi]

That's interesting. That is really interesting because he really wants connection.

[PFT Commenter]

Yeah.

[Stavi]

You know, like, that's the thing here.

[PFT Commenter]

Is that he wants validation.

[Stavi]

Yeah, he wants. I guess. Yeah. He is struggling, right? Like, because the thing is, girl, it's just, I would like, maybe, you know, how old is he? 23.

[PFT Commenter]

So that's a couple years.

[Stavi]

Because if you're 20 at 23, would I want to hear this from a skinny guy? Probably not.

[PFT Commenter]

Yeah.

[Stavi]

You know what I mean? Now, now I have again more. I could see how their lives could be hard. I just. But even still, the fat, little fat loser in me kicks in and I'm like, come on, man, six two. Like there's so, so many talk about wanting like some bean pole looking. That's the type of guy that can get. That is six two. Like, I mean, 130 is crazy.

[PFT Commenter]

That's very skinny for six two.

[Stavi]

It is very skinny. But there's goth bitches that want to fuck Slender Man.

[PFT Commenter]

Yeah.

[Stavi]

You know what I mean? Like, like I do feel like I see. See that. I do feel like that is an archetype. Is like big titted goth girls with the skinniest boyfriend you've ever seen in your life.

[PFT Commenter]

Do you want the, the heroin addict boyfriend? That's not like, you don't have to deal with all the mess of actually being on heroin. Yeah, there's a spot for you there. But if this guy waits 10 years and he's still at these dimensions, 6 to 130, then I think more people will understand like this. There's a problem. Yeah, your metabolism is like too fast. But at this point, age, it is skinny. But I feel like that's tough to do a woe is me session on being too skinny.

[Stavi]

Yeah, especially when you're tall. Like, here's what I'll say. You can connect with these guys if you don't get pussy. But if you're getting pussy, do not try and commiserate with a fat 23 year old. Just from my experience, if I had a tall nerd who we were both struggling to get pussy in Fact, some of my friend, a good friend of mine was a tall nerd that couldn't get pussy. You know what I mean? Like, who was skinny. Like, that's at that age. That's what it all boils down to. Because there's fat. You know what I mean? Like, that's the only thing that matters in life at that age. And I again now, because my life is more full than that, I could talk to someone with the struggles, but really, like, that's your way in. If you fuck, you can't really commiserate with guys who are fat, in my experience. Now if you don't get pussy and you could talk and like, you could be going to the gym with your fat friend and you're drinking weight gainer and you're like, don't talk to them about how, oh, I'm eating all this ice cream and nothing's happening. Don't say that shit. Just be like, you know, my body hurts. I don't have enough, like, fat lubricating my joints. Like, I can't lift. I'm weak. Like, pick the stuff that actually weak.

[PFT Commenter]

Is a good one.

[Stavi]

Weak is good. Yeah.

[PFT Commenter]

Because the big boys that are going to the gym, they're probably at least able to throw some weight around.

[Stavi]

Yeah. When I was eating well and not. Cuz now I'm trying to, like, I'm, I'm on a calorie deficit, so my numbers are just kind of staying stagnant. But dude, when we were shooting tires and I was just like eating, like, I felt strong as.

[PFT Commenter]

Did you do rewrites on that? Were you like, hey, season two, can I not be eating in every scene?

[Stavi]

Like, I'm trying to, I'm trying to drop the E. I love that. I was basically like Brad Pitt in Ocean's Eleven. But I think, you know what's funny? We forgot we did that.

[PFT Commenter]

Yeah.

[Stavi]

And I think I was only eating, eating and like, you know, I don't wanna, I don't. I don't think we kept the meme up, but I don't remember. I ate. Listen, I did not eat on the show.

[PFT Commenter]

Right.

[Stavi]

I definitely. When I was stressed, I went back because I think the character is the kind of guy who eats when he's stressed. You know that deep character that Dave is, that I had to do a lot of, a lot of theatrical work to get into his mindset. It was tough.

[PFT Commenter]

They make prop cupcakes. Like they make prop cigarettes so you can like smoke all day.

[Stavi]

No, they did, they, they, they had like a straight spit like, it's so funny because they. Yeah, actually, I'm remembering one scene where the whole point was I was eating something disgusting, and it was like, fast food, and it's like. And, like, anchovies. And, like, it was just, like a weird, fucked up, like, meal. And they were like, we got a spit bucket for you. We got everything. And I just fucking housed it all. I made them like. I. Like, they wrote it and it was like, sardines and, like, crackers. And I was like. I literally was like, I don't think this is trash enough. I think you guys need to go to Wendy's and get me nuggets and fries. Like, I actually, like, punched up how fucked up his meal was. So I. And they were like, oh, yeah, we'll get you through this. And I always, always ended up eating more snacks. They didn't need the prop. They tried to do prop stuff. And I was like, I'm just eating these. Like, at a certain point there, I was eating. We were doing a party scene, and I just was eating food that had just been sitting out for, like, three days. And they're like, that popcorn hasn't been reset. And I'm like, it's fucking popcorn. You know what I mean?

[PFT Commenter]

What? The consistency is a little off.

[Stavi]

Yeah.

[PFT Commenter]

But, yes. I love the idea of you giving notes. So, like, I think he. I think the character would have Wendy's, too.

[Stavi]

Yeah, I know. You're like, did you give notes? Stop making me eat. I was like, no. My notes were, if we're going to be realistic, he'd be eating Wendy's right now.

[PFT Commenter]

I think. I think with this collar, it also matters if your friends, if they're also tall or if they're short and heavier. Because if you're tall and skinny and there's a short fat. You're like, you're complaining about the two things that I want you.

[Stavi]

Yeah. Yes. That's absolutely. If this kid is fucking, like. And I'm an interesting case because I legitimately didn't think I was short until, like, three years ago.

[PFT Commenter]

How tall are you?

[Stavi]

I'm five seven.

[PFT Commenter]

Yeah.

[Stavi]

But growing up, I was, like, eldest. Like, I would just be around. All my friends were taller than me. And in my head, like, in my head, eldest is, like, 4 inches taller than me. You know what I mean? Like, he's got a full foot on me. But in my head, I'm like, he's a little taller.

[PFT Commenter]

We're close.

[Stavi]

And then my friends who are six feet, I'm like, we're the same Height. I just have like, I'm just. And it didn't, I was so like worried about being fat. It didn't dawn on me that I was also short. But if. Yeah, you cannot be going up to 300 pound, 55 guys and be like, life is so hard for me. And, and I, and I feel bad for him because he means well and he is having a struggle. But if you're fucking, don't just find other skinny people, man. You know what I mean? Go make friends with anorexic girls. You know what I mean?

[PFT Commenter]

Yeah. Your strategy of just saying I'm weak, that's a good one.

[Stavi]

I'm weak.

[PFT Commenter]

Because that's an actual insult to yourself.

[Stavi]

Yeah.

[PFT Commenter]

That your other biggest.

[Stavi]

It has to be self deprecating. Yes. Yeah.

[PFT Commenter]

And I think they'll, they'll appreciate that because.

[Stavi]

Yeah. What he said, his real. You can't tell them real problems that don't sound like problems.

[PFT Commenter]

Right.

[Stavi]

Because that would drive me crazy when I had a friend who's like, oh, I just can't put on weight. And it's like, I, I can't not put on weight. You know what I mean? Like, I physically can't not. Like I have such a horrible metabolism that it would. And I love eating so much. That would enrage me. I would be like, I wish I could eat for you. Like, I wish I could eat for people with that kind of metabolism. I bet you I could get him to gain weight, I'll tell you that much.

[PFT Commenter]

I think that a lot of guys that are trying to put on weight like this, they don't know what it means to eat.

[Stavi]

Like, they don't, truly, they really don't.

[PFT Commenter]

I have a, I have a glass of whole milk with every meal. I can't put on any weight. But I mean, if this guy is trying to put on weight, that is a struggle. It's a legit struggle. It is that you're dealing with. And I'm sure that looking yourself in the mirror, you, you see a bunch of stuff about your body that you would like very much to change and you should continue to work on that because it will eventually work for you. And if it doesn't, then there might be medical thing that you have to look into, but you're doing the right things. I would say just give it a couple years. The metabolism is going to even out.

[Stavi]

A little bit and. Yeah, and exactly. It'll even out. And it's like, yeah, work on it. The way fat people try and work on losing weight. Like you have to stay disciplined, you know what I mean? You have to hit a calorie goal, but it's in the other. Other way. And if you're not somebody who eats that much, he probably has to eat like, you know, he's six two. He probably has to eat like 3,000 calories. Four.

[PFT Commenter]

Yeah, 4,000.

[Stavi]

Like, yes. To gain weight, he has to eat a lot like. Like stuff that does that is hard to put down. So, like, you know, get weight gainer, get protein shakes, whatever, all that kind of shit. And. And stick with it the way, you know, other people stick to their diet and do your best, like. Like I said, if you couch it in the right ways and you're not getting pussy, you can make friends with fat people. If you share the struggle, go to gym fat guys, because. Exactly. Pft. You're right. They're stronger than you. They might feel superior to you in the gym even though you're superior to them outside. You need to balance out the relationship if you want camaraderie of this sort. And, you know, if not, you know, I don't know what to tell you, little buddy. It's gonna take some time, but if you're getting pussy, you're fine.

[PFT Commenter]

I'm like, you, Stavia. I didn't know that I was that short until I started part of my take.

[Stavi]

Yeah, yeah.

[PFT Commenter]

And then I'm only hanging out with professional athletes on the show.

[Stavi]

Yeah, all the pictures are hilarious.

[PFT Commenter]

Yeah. It's like, here's just sit next to Blake Griffin for a little bit. And then very quickly you realize, yeah, I'm a freak. I look like a freak now.

[Stavi]

Well, spe. Yeah, Especially all those. And big cats, you know, six.

[PFT Commenter]

Everybody that works here is like six, three.

[Stavi]

It's crazy. That's a tough one, man. But, yeah, good luck to our. To our Jack Skellington ass, Kevin Durant ass they're called in here. You know, we're rooting for you, and it is a struggle.

[PFT Commenter]

That's the only guy in America that is in the healthy range on the BMI chart. That chart is so fucked up.

[Stavi]

You're so right about that.

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[Stavi]

Oh, you have something quick for us to go out on Eldis.

[C]

Here we go.

[F]

So I'm listening to the.

[Stavi]

Sorry, I keep forgetting.

[F]

Howdy baby. So I'm listening to the McD Maniacs episode, episode two and I, I just.

[Stavi]

Got to the question where girl asked if she should try to hook up with her mailman.

[F]

And I gotta say, as the mailman just yeah, no, hook up with him.

[PFT Commenter]

Do it 100%.

[Stavi]

I hope that that's me. But yeah, hook up with your mailman.

[F]

It matter what the situation is.

[Stavi]

Good idea. Okay, Good idea, Good idea. He's smart. Dude.

[PFT Commenter]

Did they do it like through the slot?

[Stavi]

Yeah, yeah, put your dick through the slot like an old fashioned glory hole. Yeah, this guy's hilarious. This guy's just dreaming this will happen to him. I think that is fun. I mean, mailman, the milkman, that's an old fashioned thing.

[PFT Commenter]

Yeah.

[Stavi]

A guy that can't really get back to like they might. Mailman must be fucked with like phones and modern society in a cashless world without the Internet traveling guys used to get so much pussy.

[PFT Commenter]

I'm fucking the seamless guy now.

[Stavi]

Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. A guy who's every instant is tracked like, you can't cheat the way you used to. And horny housewives were probably like, half of them are probably suicidal. Half of them are like, you know, their doctor jerks them off and gives them Klonopin. Gives them. They can't. They can't.

[PFT Commenter]

Like they're hysterical.

[Stavi]

Yeah, they're hysterical.

[PFT Commenter]

Like, I don't fix you, I'm going to make you come real quick.

[Stavi]

Yeah, dude. So many, I bet you so many just horny, dissatisfied housewives just fucked a mailman or a milkman back in the day and we need to get a little bit more of that going on. So yeah, like this guy said, fuck the mailman. I remember that episode, McD's Maniacs Volume 2. And I think we told her she could fuck the mailman, right? She was confused.

[C]

She, she, she was asking about asking him out.

[PFT Commenter]

She didn't say him, his mail. She like, is she getting good vibes from him? They're hitting it off.

[C]

She said they got a good vibe. They like. He introduced himself to her one day or something and.

[Stavi]

Yeah. Yeah. That's how funny women are. It's like, do you think I could. It's like, yes, of course. Yeah.

[PFT Commenter]

Don't finish the sentence.

[Stavi]

Ask him. That's the thing. Like, we, like. I think JP said on that episode, he was like, I've never spoken to my mailman once.

[PFT Commenter]

No.

[Stavi]

Like, what man has. Has a mailman ever introduced himself to a man? I don't think so. No, I don't.

[PFT Commenter]

I think. I think maybe back in the day, I think that.

[Stavi]

Sure.

[PFT Commenter]

Like, it was the part of the community.

[Stavi]

But I mean, have you.

[PFT Commenter]

The office, walking down the street, whistling, swirling.

[Stavi]

Right, right.

[PFT Commenter]

That's Officer o' Shea.

[Stavi]

Yes, yes, yes. That's Jimmy the mailman. Whatever. But yeah. Have you. Do you know the first name of a single one of your mailman? Trying to think, like, from childhood. I do. Because. Yeah, we got the tail end of that community thing.

[PFT Commenter]

Yeah.

[Stavi]

But like, in New York, they all. They. They change anyway. Like, I never. So the fact that this guy went up and talked to you means he's trying to smash.

[PFT Commenter]

I think he's saying, what's up?

[Stavi]

Yeah, yeah. So good. This. And you know, this guy, if he's your mailman, folks. And thank you for listening. Thanks for calling in. Pft. Thanks for coming, brother. This was so fun.

[PFT Commenter]

Thank you for having me.

[Stavi]

Absolutely. Listen to. Pardon my take.

[PFT Commenter]

Anything else you want to plug part by Take macrodosing.

[Stavi]

Love it.

[PFT Commenter]

Yep. Fun times.

[Stavi]

Fun times. Eventually we're going to get that. We're going to get that Breaking Bad feature film that's coming out.

[PFT Commenter]

But more importantly, regular weed.

[Stavi]

Regular. Oh, that's right. We're bringing back regular weed.

[PFT Commenter]

I'm going to get on the phone with some. Some cannabis, talk some people.

[Stavi]

Let's make this happen.

[PFT Commenter]

Yeah.

[Stavi]

Because we need to fucking. We need to do the Fogging the Predator handshake for this.

[PFT Commenter]

Yeah.

[Stavi]

You know, it's like we are the two archetypes of the guy who wants regular weed.

[PFT Commenter]

I just want to smoke and not get debilitating anxiety in public.

[Stavi]

Exactly.

[PFT Commenter]

I want to have it. Be able to fake my way through a conversation with the cashier.

[Stavi]

I want to smoke a whole joint with a girl and who. I know we have a good relationship and not in the middle of it, get so scared. I'm like. I feel like I'm in middle school again. And like, I can't, like, go in for a kiss. Yeah, that dude, that's happened to me where I'm like, I've invited a girl over to, like, in the text. Like, let's hook up. You know what I mean? Like, there is no confusion. And then I get high and I'm like, I hope she likes me. You know what I mean? Like, I just want weed that I can get my dick sucked without worrying, you know, Regular weed, folks. That's what we're bringing to the table.

[PFT Commenter]

I want to be able to have the courage to have the best thing possible happen to me that's already been agreed upon happening and not freak myself out so much that I'm like, I'm just going to go jack off later.

[Stavi]

Yeah, yeah, yeah. Well, nice to see you, ma' am, and just go away scared. All right, folks, that's going to do it for us. We will talk to you next week. Bye. Bye.