#149 - Josh Johnson

Summary

Stavvy’s World #149 – Josh Johnson

Date: October 6, 2025
Host: Stavros Halkias
Guest: Josh Johnson

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Episode Overview

This lively, joke-filled installment of Stavvy’s World reunites Stavros Halkias with comedian and Daily Show writer Josh Johnson for a riff-heavy conversation on adulthood, life lessons, generational dynamics, movies, societal tension, and (eventually) listener calls about real-life romantic and moral dilemmas. Stav and Josh bring sharp wit—balancing humor and real advice as they wander from ridiculous childhood memories and movie plots to surprisingly earnest listener counseling about open relationships and sudden international parenthood.

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Key Discussion Points & Insights

1. “Masculinity,” Authority, and Childhood Memories

(00:00–16:32)

• Starting Active: Stav and Elders riff on the ego boost of New York’s electric city bikes and silly “performance-enhancing” shoes.

• Masculinity in Adulthood: Childhood memories about substitute teachers, coaches, and “heels for men” (Nike Shox) lead to observations on how children instinctively sense weak adults—especially those desperate for kid approval.

• Respect and Authority: Josh and Stav roast the type of adults who seek respect from children, viewing it as both pitiful and harmful.

  “If you want a child to like you as an adult, you are pathetic.” — Stavros (04:04)

• Sports Trauma: Josh recalls a baseball coach’s dentures falling out mid-rant, cementing his classmates’ realization that adults aren't always competent.

  “Nobody laugh at me.” — Coach, quoted by Josh (07:12)

• Parents’ Illusions: They agree a healthy upbringing is built on the illusion parents are in control. Recognizing adults don’t know best is a frightening turning point for kids.

• Generational Respect: Josh describes the Southern and Eastern European traditions of respecting elders, and what’s lost/gained in today’s more skeptical culture.

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Notable Quotes:

“Every time as a kid… you realize the person you’re talking to doesn’t actually know more than you… it’s not just annoying, it’s scary…”
— Josh (11:05)

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2. Aging, Youth, and the Lies We Tell Ourselves

(16:32–22:15)

• Aging Realizations: Personal stories about being called "old" in your 20s, and how both late-20s and early-20s people are in denial about the future.
• Wasted Youth: They joke about Americans squandering their physical prime on junk food, cheap thrills, and comedy open mics, instead of building families as “nature intended.”
• Intergenerational Frustration: Kevin O’Leary (Shark Tank) becomes the butt of jokes for his out-of-touch financial advice about coffee and avocado toast.

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Notable Quotes:

“What we’re wasting our youth on in America is crazy… two pints a day here at one point—that was us at 25.”
— Stavros (15:26)

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3. Modern Financial Myths & The Subscription Economy

(22:15–28:42)

• Personal Wealth Jokes: The only way to become a billionaire: “Be an absolute monster or sell DVDs in 2005” (Stav).
• Physical Media Nostalgia: Discussion about streaming, Amazon’s “ownership” lies, and why physical things might make a comeback.
• Movie Sequels: Tangent about action movies and how logic-defying resurrections (e.g., John Wick, Extraction) are a delight in their own right.

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Notable Quotes:

“I love that. I do love that. I think more [movie sequels] should be inexplicable… Who cares? It’s a movie.”
— Stavros (23:35)

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4. John Wick, Boondock Saints, & Dumb Guy Cinema

(24:53–36:34)

• Appreciation for the Absurd: Both praise the stylish stupidity of John Wick and Boondock Saints, poking fun at the internal economy of gold coins and the wish-fulfillment of dumb-guy action movies.
• Inflation in Movie Universes: Running gag about how, even after four John Wick movies, one coin still covers anything.

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Notable Quotes:

“John Wick… is the pinnacle of dumb guy cinema.”
— Stavros (32:44)
"Across four movies, everything still costs a gold coin.” — Josh (33:49)

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5. Kids, Persistence, and Parental Fallibility

(38:28–41:29)

• Comparison to Pets: Children and dogs outwait adults/owners for what they want. Kids “catch you on one overwhelmed day” to get away with things.
• Library Mishaps: Stav recounts his mother inadvertently bringing home hentai as “Japanimation.”

“He was literally too young to jack off…” — Stavros (40:09)

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6. Internet Culture, Meme Violence, and Political Scapegoating

(41:29–50:44)

• Assassination Culture: Dark riff on the generations raised on memes as the framework for sensational politics and real violence.
• Escalation and Tribalism: They lambast both sides of the political spectrum for othering entire populations, scapegoating, and searching for easy answers while billionaires rob society.

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Notable Quotes:

“You want war too?… Not really. We had nothing to do with this. Please stop talking like the Joker.”
— Stavros (43:44)

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7. America’s Modern Civil War Fetish

(50:44–52:04)

• Civil War Rhetoric: Josh explains, especially in the South, there’s always been a weird desire for a “war” that most people don’t actually want to fight.
• Fat Snipers & Wally Chairs: Modern civil war would boil down to “fat snipers… people in Wally chairs shooting drones.” (Stavros, 51:21)

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Listener Call-In Advice Segment

Caller 1: Workplace Hall Pass Crisis

(54:56–65:13)

The Dilemma:
A man in his 30s has a “hall pass” arrangement with his girlfriend (late 20s). Neither has used it, but his girlfriend will soon be away for months, tempting him to act on a flirtatious coworker. He wonders about consequences if he does, including fantasy scenarios where both women want threesomes.

Advice:

• Stav & Josh roast the caller's fantasy logic:

  “I love a dreamer. This is like what got us to the moon!” — Josh (56:33)

• Realistically, they warn:

  • He’s assuming the “obviously interested coworker” is interested—huge leap with risk (58:03).
  • He’s vastly underestimating the social/professional fallout if things go badly.
  • “Don’t fuck a girl in your office, idiot.” — Stavros (61:07)

• Before acting, talk honestly with his girlfriend to clarify boundaries.

• Don’t act unless everyone involved knows the whole story upfront.

• If he’s already catching feelings (“crush mode”), open arrangements will only amplify problems.

Best Moment:

“In order to enact any dream, you have to understand when you’re asleep and when you’re awake.” — Josh (61:36)

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Caller 2: Oh là là! Accidental Fatherhood in France

(68:27–79:47)

The Dilemma:
After an unprotected one-night stand in France, a caller learns (months later) he’s going to be a father. He asks whether he should “abandon his life to move to France, or stay in the U.S. and abandon his responsibilities… or something in between?”

Advice:

• Stav & Josh are stunned at the “child support across the Atlantic” question and remind him:

  “You got a kid. You nut, you pay the price, bro.” — Stavros (75:28)

• There is middle ground:

  • Connect with the woman, explore all options.
  • If not pursuing a relationship, financially support your child (and possibly learn French).
  • Moving to Europe isn’t the end of the world; France has safety nets, reasonable cost of living, and might provide an unexpected new start.

• Josh points out it may be easier to build a life in France than caller fears (“She could teach you French!” 76:55).

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Caller 3: Missing the Goofy Stoner Husband

(82:47–92:06)

The Dilemma:
A pregnant woman misses her husband’s relaxed, silly side—one that only seemed to come out when he smoked weed, which he quit for a job.

Advice:

• Josh observes the contrast with the previous caller—“two opposite sides of the spectrum on how a man takes a pregnancy!” (84:34).
• Suggests therapy/couples counseling may help him express that side of himself without weed.
• Stav points out they may both be stressed and missing an earlier, carefree life—not just weed-induced laughter.
• Recreate old rituals (movie, pizza night) without the weed to spark that joyous energy.

Notable Quotes:

“You’re probably one viewing of Pineapple Express away to finding your way back.” — Josh (90:00)
“Those are his thoughts. This [side] is there. You know it’s him.” — Josh (90:22)

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Caller 4: Bonus Quickie: Letting Your Partner Hear the Podcast

(92:23–94:21)

• Recent caller shares a clever technique: listening to the podcast with his fiancée helps broach “awkward” topics like oral sex without confrontation.
• Stav and Josh find it hilarious (“just waiting for your girlfriend to come in and… pressing play on a call about not getting your dick sucked…” — Stavros, 93:34).

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Memorable Moments & Quotes

• “Nobody laugh at me.” — Josh’s coach, instant universal vibe check (07:12)
• “If you want a child to like you as an adult, you are pathetic.” — Stavros (04:04)
• “John Wick… is the pinnacle of dumb guy cinema.” — Stavros (32:44)
• “You got a kid. You have a kid. Sorry, that sucks. That sucks dick. But you can’t be a deadbeat.” — Stavros (75:28)

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Timestamps for Important Segments

• 00:00 — Electric bikes, performance shoes, masculinity
• 03:02 — Childhood mockery of weak adults, substitute teachers
• 04:55 — Josh’s baseball coach dentures story
• 09:16 — Why kids shouldn't know parents are “losers”
• 13:18 — Aging, being called old at 25
• 15:26 — Wasting American youth, “two pints a day” story
• 16:32 — Kevin O’Leary and the avocado toast myth
• 22:15 — Nostalgia for physical media, movie sequels
• 28:51 — John Wick’s gold coin economy, dumb guy cinema
• 38:28 — Children persistently outlasting parents, accidental hentai
• 41:29 — Meme assassination, political violence scapegoating
• 50:51 — Why no one actually wants civil war
• 54:56 — Caller 1: Open relationships & workplace crush
• 68:27 — Caller 2: Surprise French fatherhood
• 82:47 — Caller 3: Missing goofy weed husband
• 92:23 — Caller 4: Using podcast as relationship therapy

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Tone & Vibe

The episode delivers tight, rapid-fire comedic banter with genuine warmth, seasoned with the duo’s signature blend of cynicism and optimism. They never shy away from exposing difficult truths, but they soften every blow with a joke—a perfect hangout for listeners who want to laugh and feel a bit less alone in life’s absurdities.

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Further Resources

• Josh Johnson’s tour dates & content: JoshJohnsonComedy.com, @JoshJohnsonComedy on social.
• Stavros Halkias tour/tickets: stavvy.biz

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“Keep sucking each other off, everybody!” — Stavros (94:21)

Transcript

[Stavros Halkias]

Hey everyone. We have an excellent show with our pal Josh Johnson coming up in a second. But first I want to let you know we're going on tour. It's kicking off in Memphis, Tennessee, Thursday, November 6th. We're going to be in Huntsville. We're going all through the south. And then also we've added a fourth show in Boston at the Wilbur. Get your tickets to that. That is Friday the 12th. We can't wait to see it. We're announcing more tour dates very soon, so keep your eyes peeled. But for now, you enjoy the show. Welcome everybody to stop his world. 904-800-stop- call in, we'll solve all your problems. We have Josh Johnson on the couch. What's up, big dog? How you doing man? Good. How are you? Yeah, I'm pretty good. I'm feeling powerful. It's not. It's a nice day. I city biked over here. Yeah, it's. I, I am like. I don't know. I'm trying to get active.

[Elders]

Do you feel more powerful after you've been active?

[Stavros Halkias]

Dude. Especially this. The electric city bikes.

[Elders]

Yeah.

[Stavros Halkias]

Cruising up there. Yeah. I can't go that fast. You know what I mean? You feel like a, like a God on those.

[Elders]

It is low key. Like the Viagra cycle where you're like, you're like, look how fast I'm going. Oh, you are kind of going that fast. But it's not all you, dude.

[Stavros Halkias]

And let me tell you, as an avid user of both, I can't imagine life.

[Elders]

Yeah.

[Stavros Halkias]

Without dick pills or, or on a dude. If I was on a regular. Sometimes they're not available and I have to like take a short ride. It's pathetic. Can I tell you feel I'm huffing and puffing. I'm going like maybe half a mile an hour.

[Elders]

Yeah. As soon as they make like the blue chew of running more fit.

[Stavros Halkias]

Dude. The have you. They have like, they'll have like shoes. I saw something that was going around where it was like almost like shoes with like kind of these little wheels and every time you would step it would just kind of propel you. It would be nice.

[Elders]

That is that, that feels like a falling hazard.

[Stavros Halkias]

I'm.

[Elders]

I'm more of a mind of like. I just want the shocks.

[Stavros Halkias]

Okay.

[Elders]

To finally do their job.

[Stavros Halkias]

You want a real bounce because they.

[Elders]

Look like they will help you dunk.

[Stavros Halkias]

The Nike shocks. Of course.

[Elders]

Yeah.

[Stavros Halkias]

Classic shoe. The car. The Vince. I believe Vince Carter. Those are his shoes.

[Elders]

Yeah.

[Stavros Halkias]

Those were the coolest shoes you could have.

[Elders]

Those were the best heels you could wear.

[Stavros Halkias]

Yeah. They really were heels for like. Yeah.

[Elders]

You saw those and it didn't even feel like heels. Sometimes you see dress shoes.

[Stavros Halkias]

Yeah, yeah.

[Elders]

And you're like, all right, there's a little gap.

[Stavros Halkias]

Of course.

[Elders]

That's. That's pretty, that's pretty heel like.

[Stavros Halkias]

One of my first experiences of children mocking adults was in middle school. We had a substitute teacher who wore like, like I guess Chelsea boots or something. And boy, oh boy did he get. He was also the football coach who no one respected. We were bad.

[Elders]

Yeah.

[Stavros Halkias]

And so it was like everyone was waiting for something to make fun of him for and he was click clack in. It was awesome to see. Like it's the click clack and being a grown man and you're still, you know, five eight with them.

[Elders]

Yeah.

[Stavros Halkias]

And I say that as a proud five seven warrior, by the way.

[Elders]

Yeah. But okay, when you are like doing the most masculine thing possible, it. There is a, there is a tipping point where you are in serious danger of like falling off. You know, I mean sure, like if you are the football coach.

[Stavros Halkias]

Yeah.

[Elders]

But also y' all keep losing.

[Stavros Halkias]

Right.

[Elders]

That's gonna lead people to be like, you're actually not the alpha that you're walking around. Like.

[Stavros Halkias]

Absolutely. And then you try have style, you drive style. And he also just cared what children thought. That's really what it was. It was like. And you know, it's funny, I believe this guy would then went on to my high school as well. And then he was, he was a defensive corner and then he like switched over to a different. To a rival high school. Like these guys have like, you look back at and you're like, this was a 40 year old man who's like invested in the like drama of a high school football league.

[Elders]

Yeah.

[Stavros Halkias]

And he really was as. And the thing is those children were right to mock him and children really can. It just. It's like you feel vibes at that age. You don't know anything else. But you know when someone's pathetic. Cuz if you want a child to like you as an adult, you are pathetic.

[Elders]

Yeah.

[Stavros Halkias]

There's no or. I'm sorry, you seek his, their, their approval. You're a loser.

[Elders]

They don't even have like disposable income. No. You're trying to, you're trying to impress the people who have the least going on.

[Stavros Halkias]

They have no, they have no power in society. You know what I mean? They're just like, they should, you should be leaving them to their own little devices.

[Elders]

It is, it is crazy. Though. Because if you. Okay. I look back at this one instance.

[Stavros Halkias]

Sure.

[Elders]

That is. Was exactly what you're talking about. And it was just so perfectly. It was almost. It felt like it was out of a movie. The way that it was so transparent.

[Stavros Halkias]

Yeah. Yeah.

[Elders]

I. I played like pitching machine. Better baseball and like. Like peewee. Like I did baseball for a little bit. It was not good.

[Stavros Halkias]

Where'd you grow up?

[Elders]

Louisiana.

[Stavros Halkias]

Okay. Okay.

[Elders]

And so was not good at all.

[Stavros Halkias]

Sure.

[Elders]

And was not trying.

[Stavros Halkias]

I was scared of baseball as a child.

[Elders]

Not only was I scared of the machine, like.

[Stavros Halkias]

Yeah, the machine would have freaked me the out The.

[Elders]

The machine. The thing with the machine that bothered me is people act like it's not a slower gun. They're like stand here.

[Stavros Halkias]

It's a very shitty slow gun.

[Elders]

You've been avoiding. You've been avoiding protect projectiles your entire little life.

[Stavros Halkias]

Yeah, absolutely.

[Elders]

You know, you will actually some. Something will happen and your parents will get mad at you for not getting out of the way.

[Stavros Halkias]

Right. Right. Yeah. Yeah. Now I'm supposed to fight those instincts.

[Elders]

Yeah.

[Stavros Halkias]

You've been telling me my whole life.

[Elders]

Yeah.

[Stavros Halkias]

I have to stand in front of this thing.

[Elders]

I have to stand for what And I have to swing at the right time. So people will clap.

[Stavros Halkias]

Yeah, yeah, yeah.

[Elders]

I won't actually win anything.

[Stavros Halkias]

No.

[Elders]

But people will clap anyway. So we. We were in the middle of a rant. He was. Our coach was giving us a rant about how.

[Stavros Halkias]

And you're about how old here? What do we think? What are we talking about?

[Elders]

I was. I was little.

[Stavros Halkias]

If it's peewee machine pitch.

[Elders]

We're talking like I played from, like, I feel like I played from 8 to 11.

[Stavros Halkias]

That makes sense. Or something like that. Yeah.

[Elders]

And. And he's in the middle of calling us the most God forsaken team he's ever seen in his life. We're. We also couldn't do that.

[Stavros Halkias]

Small year olds. Yeah.

[Elders]

We also couldn't be small cute too.

[Stavros Halkias]

We were.

[Elders]

We were small for our age.

[Stavros Halkias]

Right, Right.

[Elders]

Like, we really were like a worse version of Bad News Bears.

[Stavros Halkias]

Yeah. Yeah.

[Elders]

And so then he's in the middle of calling us the worst God forsaken team he's ever seen. And as he got to like God forsaken, his dentures almost flew out.

[Stavros Halkias]

Oh, no.

[Elders]

And so he's like, y' all the worst guy. And then as he's like. As he's like trying to hold it together. First of all, some kids start crying because they don't know.

[Stavros Halkias]

They don't know what's going on?

[Elders]

They think. They think his head coming out, like, they straight up think his head coming out.

[Stavros Halkias]

We're so bad. Our coaches dissolving in front of us.

[Elders]

Because they were like kids that started.

[Stavros Halkias]

Crying because they were like, eyeballs are next. And then.

[Elders]

And then he's like, he goes. He's trying. Starts trying to push him back in. And he's like. He's like, shut up. Shut up.

[Stavros Halkias]

Nobody laugh at me.

[Elders]

Oh my.

[Stavros Halkias]

Nobody laugh at me.

[Elders]

Nobody laugh at me. It's like. It's like sadder. It's one of the saddest things.

[Stavros Halkias]

Yeah, yeah, yeah. Absolutely. Coming out. Yeah.

[Elders]

Nobody laugh at me. Hasn't. There's never been a better read on a person that they gave.

[Stavros Halkias]

If you say that. If you say that like non ironically. You're Nobody laughing. You're so defeated. Teeth coming out of your mouth. Children.

[Elders]

I'm surprised he didn't kill all of us.

[Stavros Halkias]

Yeah, yeah.

[Elders]

Just so that no one could tell the story.

[Stavros Halkias]

I mean, it. Is that the psychology of a like Little League coach who is not. Was he related to anyone?

[Elders]

I don't think so. But my soccer coaches were almost always somebody's dad.

[Stavros Halkias]

Exactly. That's classic. That's classic. Somebody's dad. Even like, you know, friend of the fam. Like if some. Somebody who used to play and knows, you know, has a relationship with somebody, whatever. But when it was like a guy who was just like. Just some guy who wanted to yell at children who like had no. The most pathetic. Is somebody who no family has no access to kids.

[Elders]

Yeah.

[Stavros Halkias]

Cuz it's like you meet a lot of parents who like, they want the worst. A very. A really bad type of parent is someone who's like, I have nothing going for me. I. My family has to listen to me. You know what I mean? Like, that's definitely a type of guy. Particularly if. If we're getting religious or we're getting into some kind of structure or like es. You know what we're from. We're old world boys here. Eastern Europeans. I mean, that's cl. Our dads were fully like that where they had nothing going. And they're like, well, here I am the king. I'm the king of this impover below the poverty line castle. And when you have like a guy who didn't even do that. Didn't even do that. He's like a middle manager, if he's lucky, no kids, no nothing. And he's like, probably wasn't even a good athlete. He's like, I have to coach peewee football, to yell at 7 year olds. That's crazy. That's sad.

[Elders]

Dude, the thing about your. The thing about your kid is that they aren't supposed to know if you're a loser.

[Stavros Halkias]

Right?

[Elders]

Like that. Like that.

[Stavros Halkias]

Right?

[Elders]

Is why there are dads that wield that. Like, you have to, you have to like listen to me and go by.

[Stavros Halkias]

Of course it's like you.

[Elders]

And this is, this is the, the perfect setup for. Especially growing up in the South. You get a lot of this. It's like the idea is that you listen, you. You respect your elders because respect for your elders teaches you to respect people. Because the cuz the, the one of the main things that I do feel like has been lost and like, I don't know, some of it's good and some of it's bad, but there is a thing of like, if to respect someone just because they are older than you.

[Stavros Halkias]

Yeah.

[Elders]

Teaches you to respect strangers for no reason.

[Stavros Halkias]

Yeah, yeah. Like it is, it is type thing.

[Elders]

And, and not just for older people, for people your age, for people below you. It's like respecting people for no reason is practice at respecting everybody.

[Stavros Halkias]

Yeah, yeah.

[Elders]

So it's a little, it's like on its face, it's like a little dumb, but the intention behind it is good. And so then the other thing is that hopefully if you have the right people around you that are older than you, they've made a lot of mistakes you won't have to make or they just know how like certain paths go so they can tell you. So then you would listen to them. Right. And none of that accounts for when someone's a loser.

[Stavros Halkias]

Yeah, yeah, yeah, Absolutely.

[Elders]

Like, like, like, like every good intention of, like, of like you saying Eastern European or Southern upbringing all stems from the idea that this person really does know more than you.

[Stavros Halkias]

Absolutely.

[Elders]

And every time as a kid, especially a teenager, because you start to get an awareness of yourself, every time as a kid, you realize that the person you're talking to doesn't actually know more than you.

[Stavros Halkias]

Tough.

[Elders]

It's not just like annoying, it's scary because it's like, it's like it would be annoying to be like, all right, I gotta listen to who, you know, whoever. It's like, I gotta listen to my cousin, but my cousin's just older than me. My cousin doesn't know more than whatever. But then if it's like, if it is like your dad.

[Stavros Halkias]

Yeah.

[Elders]

Now you're like, wait, you. But the house is in your name.

[Stavros Halkias]

Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah.

[Elders]

What do You. What do you mean you don't getting.

[Stavros Halkias]

Water is up to you.

[Elders]

Yeah, it's like, it's like that's that and, and so I think that's where a lot of it comes from. I mean I had a. Admittedly a dark moment where I remember the first time that somebody just like ragged on me for being old, but like for no reason, like I really was minding my own business.

[Stavros Halkias]

Yeah.

[Elders]

This was when I used to work at a grocery store.

[Stavros Halkias]

Okay.

[Elders]

And there was someone younger than me at the guy. Yeah. This and bas. They were going on and on and on. We're like four years apart by the way. So this already also.

[Stavros Halkias]

That's the funniest when a like 21 year old talks about 25 year old being.

[Elders]

It's exactly what happened. I was 25.

[Stavros Halkias]

I was.

[Elders]

Dude, you. You've nailed it. I was 25. I was literally minding my own business.

[Stavros Halkias]

Yeah. Stocking some trader Gios, making sure that.

[Elders]

The, that the, that the, the front, you know, area was faced correctly. So it's all. Even makes you want to buy it more so you can pluck one of the perfect face.

[Stavros Halkias]

It's the best.

[Elders]

Anyway, I'm minding my own business. Apparently two other co workers were like trying to guess how old I was, but then, but then someone walked by who just knew.

[Stavros Halkias]

Yeah. Yeah.

[Elders]

And so then they said 25. Then the 21 year old walks up to me and it's like, you're 25? I was like, yeah. As I'm like putting cans of soup.

[Stavros Halkias]

Yeah, of course.

[Elders]

And she was like, oh, that's so old. And then I was like. And I think it really was the first time that someone tried to like make me feel old that was just younger than me. And I, and I, I turned to her, I was like, okay, I hope you never turn 25.

[Stavros Halkias]

Up the ante. And I was just like, she's being annoying. You're like, I hope you die.

[Elders]

And then she was like, oh, what? Like, why would you say that? Like, no, you just. You think being old is gross. I hope you never get old.

[Stavros Halkias]

Hope you never do it.

[Elders]

Yeah.

[Stavros Halkias]

Hope don't do it on your 24th birthday.

[Elders]

Oh, I can hear my elbow. Oh, no, you don't want to hear that.

[Stavros Halkias]

You don't want to feel that creek.

[Elders]

Yeah.

[Stavros Halkias]

Yeah. That is the flip side of there is when, when you realize most adults are just fucking dumb asses. That kept going. That most of that a lot of like respect your elders is. It's actually the. You could say it's the original participation trophy. Yeah. It's like you participated in so many years of life.

[Elders]

Yeah.

[Stavros Halkias]

That you get default respect you get, but you haven't really earned it for the most part.

[Elders]

Yeah, yeah.

[Stavros Halkias]

But the flip side of that is somebody who is 21 not understanding like it's coming for you.

[Elders]

That like you, this is the best case scenario.

[Stavros Halkias]

Yeah, yeah, yeah. If you are lucky, it's coming.

[Elders]

If you don't get sick.

[Stavros Halkias]

Yeah, yeah, yeah.

[Elders]

For you.

[Stavros Halkias]

And it's not looking good. If you have an illness now you're not. You probably can't pay for it.

[Elders]

You also like, if you get sick at 21, you're sick sick because 21, you like you at 21. Your immune system is beating the absolute ever loving crap out of. Out of, out of diseases you don't even know you have.

[Stavros Halkias]

Yeah, yeah.

[Elders]

Like people, people literally are like walking sick. I remember there was this documentary about people who like are skinny obese where they basically have such a terrible diet that they are killing themselves, but they just, their metabolism is so fast they don't see it.

[Stavros Halkias]

Right.

[Elders]

And so these people literally just end up in the hospital at like 28.

[Stavros Halkias]

Yeah.

[Elders]

And the people in the like the, the nurse will be like, your blood pressure is lasers.

[Stavros Halkias]

Yeah.

[Elders]

Like you, like you, you. I don't even know how you're awake right now. Like you should be dead.

[Stavros Halkias]

Absolutely.

[Elders]

And it's like, why, how do you live like this? And they're like, I don't slam 26 Cokes a day.

[Stavros Halkias]

The. Yeah, the.

[Elders]

You.

[Stavros Halkias]

The. What we're wasting our youth on in America is crazy.

[Elders]

Yeah.

[Stavros Halkias]

We're wasting it on like 711 hot dogs. I mean we did it, you know, we did it on. We've me mentioned many times pints of Ben and Jerry's. We got up to two pints a day here at one point in this very apartment. That was, that was our. Well, that was us at 25.

[Elders]

Yeah.

[Stavros Halkias]

And then, you know, just getting, I mean getting really drunk. Whatever. It is sad how much like that's the like the pinnacle of your body. And it's like, what are we really doing? It's not raising a family. Like, that's. I feel like I feel like we're bouncing back because that's the age you're supposed to be like in nature. 24 is like the end of. That's when you have your seventh kid.

[Elders]

Yeah.

[Stavros Halkias]

It's like you're supposed to be like, you're supposed to be using that bounce. But instead of using it to treat Hangovers. And to treat having like, you know, you know, $40 with a taco Bell or whatever, you. That's what you should be using it for. But not us, baby. We use it to stay up all night, go to an open mic, use all my drink tickets. Drink. Drink drinks. People left on there. That kind of.

[Elders]

I mean, I do feel like people are just using the space, though. They're. They're filling the space with what used to. Because, look, buying a house, you know, adjusted for inflation, was still like half a year's salary. Yeah, yeah. I mean, so it's like. It's like now you technically can't do all the adult things that, like, the big people expect you to do by 22, because they did it by, like, 19. Sure, it's like there's a little bit of a. Of a one to two year grace period, but all the things you're supposed to be doing have been offset by how bad everything is. And so you are filling the time and space with stuff because that's just like. Like, you know, there's the whole. The whole. Was it Kevin O' Leary or whatever?

[Stavros Halkias]

Mr. Wonderful.

[Elders]

Yeah, yeah.

[Stavros Halkias]

Watch what you say. Oh, this is maybe the number one Mr. Wonderful. Super Fan.

[Elders]

Really? Wow.

[Stavros Halkias]

I love Shark Day. You love his politics, too.

[Elders]

Yeah.

[Stavros Halkias]

You demand his trap about all the politics.

[Elders]

Mom.

[Stavros Halkias]

Donnie, meet with him. That was the funniest thing in the world where o', Leary, a Canadian billionaire, was like, I tried to talk to Zoran, but he wouldn't meet with me. It's like, yeah, who gives a fuck what you think, you fucking idiot?

[Elders]

But it is crazy how like, like, people, like elites, keep giving accidental W's.

[Stavros Halkias]

Yeah, yeah, absolutely.

[Elders]

It's like I called this guy and he said he didn't have time for me, and you're like, that actually sounds dope.

[Stavros Halkias]

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[Elders]

So basically, he has a lot of old school and like, old world beliefs that are not adjusted for inflation. They aren't, they aren't like, they aren't being realistic to the current predicament that people find themselves in. And so he's a very much like a don't have the avocado toast and the coffee type guy. And it's like, and it's like, I love that. My thing is that, that stuff, there's still belief that, like, that stuff makes up the difference. Even when you show him, even when you tell him, like you were talking about, like, anywhere from a couple hundred to maybe a grand a year. Now, now, now, to, to, to even his point though, if you are exactly a grand in credit card debt, then these are the things you could be doing to be in no credit card debt. But the problems are so much bigger than that. Yeah, that, like, that, like, people getting by is not the same as, like, getting ahead. Like, like he is, he is living in a fantasy world. And I don't even think it's an, it's an earnest fantasy world. This dude is living in a fantasy world because it keeps the, the machine churning for sure that you can save your way to a billion dollars.

[Stavros Halkias]

Oh, yeah.

[Elders]

And that is that you don't have.

[Stavros Halkias]

To just ruin the lives of thousands of people. That's the only way to get a billion dollars.

[Elders]

The only two ways to get a billion dollars are to be an absolute monster or. And this is back when we still.

[Stavros Halkias]

Sold an absolute monster.

[Elders]

When we still sold DVDs.

[Stavros Halkias]

Yeah.

[Elders]

Like, let's say if Kevin Hart got like a third of the country to buy grown little man.

[Stavros Halkias]

Sure.

[Elders]

He would have been a billionaire and it would have been pretty ethical.

[Stavros Halkias]

Yeah, yeah, yeah. I mean, yeah, that is.

[Elders]

But like. But we're out of those commodities. Everything is, like, subscription based.

[Stavros Halkias]

Yeah.

[Elders]

Even. Even the physical things, you still. There's still a barrier to entry, to sell people who like your stuff. The physical thing.

[Stavros Halkias]

Yeah.

[Elders]

I mean, so it's like they have to have a record player to even really want to buy your vinyl.

[Stavros Halkias]

Sure.

[Elders]

They have to have, like a DVD player to want to get your. But. But selling. To me, selling physical is actually the future because then it will become more than just like old school, vintage novelty.

[Stavros Halkias]

Yeah.

[Elders]

And it'll break into, like, the direct line to the people who you create things for that they will be able to have it. So then that way pass any form of, like, passing form of censorship and past any form of, like, messiness with platforms.

[Stavros Halkias]

Yeah. We'll take it back because Amazon. Yeah, exactly. Amazon does this thing where they're like, oh, when you buy it, that means you can watch it whenever you want. That doesn't mean you own it.

[Elders]

Yeah.

[Stavros Halkias]

And they can just take something off of their platform, which is insane.

[Elders]

And they don't refund you. Your. They don't go by and be like, all right, we. We took three titles off.

[Stavros Halkias]

Yeah.

[Elders]

And you spent a total of 60 bucks on them because they were 20 bucks each when they first came out, which is when you wanted to watch it and we said, you own it. So here's your $60 rebate. It's like, no one's really keeping up with that. And even. Even if there's an effort to. It still doesn't. It still doesn't make up for the fact you didn't want. You literally didn't want that money. You wanted the thing. Yeah, I don't want $20 so I can have this movie.

[Stavros Halkias]

I want to watch crank 2. Yeah. Whenever I want the best prank. Yeah, that's a good one.

[Elders]

The fact that he woke up.

[Stavros Halkias]

Yeah, I know, I know. I love when a movie will just be like, the guy's dead. And then it's like psych sequel.

[Elders]

The.

[Stavros Halkias]

The Chris. The Chris Hemsworth extraction. The first one's really good. It was the. It came out during the pandemic, and it was like, you know, Chris Hemsworth basically like, I. Have you seen it? He's trying to. Like some kid. There's a kidnapped kid. It's in India. Oh, it ends. He's shot full of bullets and in the, like, ocean or some river.

[Elders]

Yeah.

[Stavros Halkias]

And then there's numbers. He just survives. But. But I love that. I do love that. I think more should be inexplicable. And it's like, it. Who cares? It's a movie.

[Elders]

But I think I'm mixing up Chris Hemsworth movies now because wasn't he in something called, like, Black Hat or something?

[Stavros Halkias]

Like, Blackhead is a Michael Mann hacker movie.

[Elders]

I thought that was Extraction.

[Stavros Halkias]

No, no, no.

[Elders]

I've watched the first five minutes of Black Hat. Did not like it.

[Stavros Halkias]

Yeah.

[Elders]

And then I kept action. And I was like, why they keep.

[Stavros Halkias]

Track is pretty good.

[Elders]

Yeah, I'll watch it now.

[Stavros Halkias]

Second one's not as good. First one was bangs. First one was a banger.

[Elders]

Do you think it's hard for the second movie to be as good if they. If they should be dead? Do you feel like you're watching a ghost the whole time?

[Stavros Halkias]

No. No. In fact, I love it because it's like. It's like they. They tell you this is a stupid thing. You know what I mean? Like, I like my action movies to be completely illogical. I don't need it to be based in reality. And it's like, you know, please let him just come back. I don't give a fuck.

[Elders]

How do you feel about the John Wick movies?

[Stavros Halkias]

How do I feel about the John Wick. Some of the finest cinema.

[Elders]

It. It is absolutely impeccable.

[Stavros Halkias]

It's so good. The fourth one. Great, Great.

[Elders]

The only thing I didn't like about the fourth one. Spoiler alert.

[Stavros Halkias]

Yeah. Yeah.

[Elders]

The only sport.

[Stavros Halkias]

Put a pause this. Put a big. Put a big siren. Eldest.

[Elders]

Yeah.

[Stavros Halkias]

Because even though John Wick 4 came out, what, two years ago? We will not spoil it for anyone on this podcast. That's how much we love the franchise. No, no.

[Elders]

You never know who's late.

[Stavros Halkias]

Of course.

[Elders]

So skip 10 seconds.

[Stavros Halkias]

Yeah.

[Elders]

The fact that he dies the way he dies was a little annoying to me, just because I feel like, John Wick. You gotta hit him with a truck. Like. Like he needs to be splattered or something because, like, he's taken bullets before.

[Stavros Halkias]

Well.

[Elders]

And he's. Yeah.

[Stavros Halkias]

I mean, but, Josh, is he dead?

[Elders]

This is my thing. This is my thing.

[Stavros Halkias]

Is he dead?

[Elders]

This is, this is all I wanted at the end of the movie. I want to like be like, okay, they buried him, you know, whatever.

[Stavros Halkias]

Yeah. And then that is kind of the vibe.

[Elders]

It's kind of the vibe. But then the two people who were there that like, would have carried his body back to New York are also there kind of talking about him being dead just to each other.

[Stavros Halkias]

Yeah.

[Elders]

So who's the LARP for? He's alive. Like, like that.

[Stavros Halkias]

Like, like we might find out. We might find out in the fifth one.

[Elders]

And I mean I, and I get that Keanu Reeves is like, guys, it hurts my body.

[Stavros Halkias]

I mean, that's the thing. He deserves. He deserves like a medal of honor.

[Elders]

I mean, him being in. In the. And arms the ballerina.

[Stavros Halkias]

Yeah.

[Elders]

Was great.

[Stavros Halkias]

Yeah.

[Elders]

I thought him like, that almost made up for the ending of four for me because I loved four so much.

[Stavros Halkias]

Sure. I like the ending. I like the send off slashes. He actually did. Now I will say about Ballerina, I had tickets to see it in theaters and I was. I had to shit and so I had to go back to my hotel room and I still have not seen Ballerina. But I had. Not only had I taken to see it, I was gonna sneak in. This is my move for a while. I was gonna sneak in a pint of low calorie ice cream, which we did when we saw. What did we see? Mickey 17 in LA?

[Elders]

Yeah.

[Stavros Halkias]

I was my. There was a grocery store right next to it and I just had to so bad that I unfortunately have not seen Ballerina and I do have to rectify that. I almost watched it on a Delta flight coming back to America from Scotland, but I did not.

[Elders]

I'm so scared to watch any action movie on a flight because I don't know if they're gonna edit because I swear sometimes they don't show at the front. This film has been edited for content. But then they still edit it.

[Stavros Halkias]

They'll edit it and especially don't watch anything that has plane crashes in it. They'll. They'll edit it out of a plan.

[Elders]

Yeah.

[Stavros Halkias]

So it'll be like a movie. Will just not make sense. Yeah. Yeah.

[Elders]

Will be seven minutes long. Yeah.

[Stavros Halkias]

Oh, man, that's good stuff.

[Elders]

But I was. I will say going to Ballerina. What I like about going to like super violent movies is just showing up to see who laughs so that I know how many. I'm like, okay, yeah, yeah, yeah. All right, that's. That's one sure there.

[Stavros Halkias]

Sure.

[Elders]

He's another one.

[Stavros Halkias]

My community. Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah.

[Elders]

Cuz I feel like there are some things that happen, especially in the. The, like, Wick franchise that are just so, like, obscenely funny.

[Stavros Halkias]

Absolutely.

[Elders]

Like, like literally when that dude, when he. In the first one, he hits that dude in the neck and that guy's like, oh, my neck. But then he's reloading and then shoots him in the head. I'm like, that is. Cuz you knew. Cuz you knew he had a gun.

[Stavros Halkias]

Totally.

[Elders]

But then you get hit the neck and you're like, this never happened before. This hurts.

[Stavros Halkias]

Yeah, yeah.

[Elders]

And then bow.

[Stavros Halkias]

Like, it is awesome that the kind of the subtext is like, so many of these guys are just like unstoppable. But it's like, it's John Wick, man. He's the Baba Yaga dude. You can't with him.

[Elders]

What I really love about it is the. Is the brevity. Because even when someone is like a badass and they come for him or whatever you are, it does remind you, like, oh, yeah, anybody could get shot.

[Stavros Halkias]

Yeah, yeah. Which is kind of again, why I like the ending. And you know.

[Elders]

Sure.

[Stavros Halkias]

And also, like, in the first one, he's. He's gonna get got. If it wasn't for Willem Dafoe, who not to, you know, I've sat in a car with. We talked. I think we already told the story. I bombed in front of. I was trying to get him to like me. I was really blowing it.

[Elders]

Oh, Willem Dafoe.

[Stavros Halkias]

That's got it. That's tough. Yeah. Just really. I'm sure you've. You've been around like, famous people. You're like, fuck, I gotta bring it. And then it's just like. I don't know. I'm not gonna say you did bad. I'm sure you were very nice and charming, but I've blown it.

[Elders]

No, I've. I've done bad. Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. I. I feel like. I feel like whenever you. And maybe, I don't know, maybe you have had a different experience, but I feel like when you do comedy, people assume you're comfortable in every situation.

[Stavros Halkias]

Right.

[Elders]

Because you're comfortable in front of people.

[Stavros Halkias]

And it's tough when they're, like, looking at you to be funny and just like, you know, at a ball or whatever and you like, I don't like it. That was my best when it.

[Elders]

It is similar to when like a magician is out but without a deck of cards.

[Stavros Halkias]

Yeah, yeah.

[Elders]

They're like, do something magic bad. And he's like, no, that stuff is real. And I actually have nothing on me right now. Like, I was just trying to have dinner.

[Stavros Halkias]

Yeah, yeah, yeah.

[Elders]

So sorry.

[Stavros Halkias]

It. It is brutal.

[Elders]

But, yeah. So he. So you just felt like you.

[Stavros Halkias]

You know, when you're just unexpected. I also hadn't been able to psych myself up to be, like, ready to be like, all right, gotta bring it. Yeah, gotta bring it.

[Elders]

I wonder how. Like, I've thought about this before with actors, how annoying some of their interactions must be. But he. But I just feel like outside of maybe someone doing the Goblin voice to him.

[Stavros Halkias]

Sure.

[Elders]

People don't have, like. Like, you know, the dude from Napoleon Dynamite. People would just do that. Like, John Heater. Like, definitely. Like, they would just do that to him all the time, I assume.

[Stavros Halkias]

For sure.

[Elders]

But, like, Willem Dafoe, you're like, now.

[Stavros Halkias]

If I saw John Heater, I think I would quote Blades of Glory. That's much more my.

[Elders]

Sure.

[Stavros Halkias]

That's my movie I watched that recently. Holds up Blades of Glory. Very funny still.

[Elders]

But I'm trying to. I'm trying to think of what an annoying person would do.

[Stavros Halkias]

Sure. Oh, yeah.

[Elders]

Their worst interaction. And I feel like Willem Dafoe would probably just be meeting someone that keeps calling him William.

[Stavros Halkias]

Yeah. William Defoe would be good. I mean, I think I really considered bringing up Boondock Saints, and I'm glad I didn't, you know. You ever seen Boondock?

[Elders]

Yeah. Yeah.

[Stavros Halkias]

Classic. Classic. The. The classic video where he's like. He's. He likes jazz music, but he's gay. That's. Or whatever it is.

[Elders]

It is an interesting thing.

[Stavros Halkias]

What a movie, man.

[Elders]

That's.

[Stavros Halkias]

And to get an actor that good, that's stupid of a movie. So good.

[Elders]

So it is crazy, too, how, like, they. I don't know. I think that movie is. Is great because it really, like, wasn't supposed to happen.

[Stavros Halkias]

Oh.

[Elders]

Like, fundamentally wasn't supposed to happen. I watched the documentary about the healing of it.

[Stavros Halkias]

Of Boondock Saints.

[Elders]

Yeah.

[Stavros Halkias]

We got a new. We got a new movie. We gotta watch Elders.

[Elders]

It's even weirder than you think, because the whole, like, Bart. Because, you know, the story of, like, bartender writes a script, and then it gets in front of, like, Harvey Weinstein.

[Stavros Halkias]

The only movie he's ever made, and he's like, duh. Like, that movie makes John Wick look like, you know, the conversation or something.

[Elders]

Yes.

[Stavros Halkias]

Like, it's crazy how. Because John Wick, you could argue, is the pinnacle.

[Elders]

Yeah.

[Stavros Halkias]

Of dumb guy cinema. Sure. Because it is like, oh, dude. All the fucking Chick. All the. The world is run by sexy rockabilly chicks. It's like, like. It's just like these concepts every. You pay for everything with the gold coin and everything costs one gold coin.

[Elders]

It's like.

[Stavros Halkias]

It's just.

[Elders]

There's no there'.

[Stavros Halkias]

So stupid and stylized. But it's awesome. It works. It just. It does work. You know, Whereas Boondock Saints, it's like a similar type of guy. A less sophisticated, like, dumbass wrote. You could tell, like.

[Elders]

Yeah. I mean.

[Stavros Halkias]

I mean, because also I think John Wick, it's. The director, was the stuntman with Kia. So he understands.

[Elders]

Yeah.

[Stavros Halkias]

And this guy really is just a dumb Irish bartender who was like, what if two Irish guys were the smartest and most dangerous guys in the world? And that's basically the premise.

[Elders]

Yeah. I mean, it is very fun that there's no inflation in John Wick.

[Stavros Halkias]

Yeah. Across four movies, everything still costs a gold coin.

[Elders]

One gold coin.

[Stavros Halkias]

Yeah.

[Elders]

I mean, I feel like he gets.

[Stavros Halkias]

Thanks for the high table. Yeah. Sometimes. Sometimes he would tip and it's like, wait, you just gave him a hundred percent tip? I guess. Look, you're a generous guy, but, you know.

[Elders]

Yeah, but sometimes.

[Stavros Halkias]

Or sometimes I believe in the. Maybe in the first one, he. It's a coin per body. When the guy comes to clean it.

[Elders]

Oh, yes, yes, yes.

[Stavros Halkias]

There really is no rhyme or reason.

[Elders]

But then it's like a coin for a stay at the Continental.

[Stavros Halkias]

For how many. Just for a week.

[Elders]

I feel like he. He always gave one coin.

[Stavros Halkias]

Yeah.

[Elders]

And I guess you get to stay as long as you want.

[Stavros Halkias]

I guess so.

[Elders]

But then that made it weird because then when the guy he wanted to kill was like, a man could stay here forever. It's like, is it all included off of one point?

[Stavros Halkias]

Right, right, right.

[Elders]

Because then John could just stay forever, I think.

[Stavros Halkias]

Yeah.

[Elders]

Yeah. I mean.

[Stavros Halkias]

Yeah.

[Elders]

But anyway, said all that to say that I gotta find it because it's a documentary about the making of it. How the guy who. Who wrote it lost his mind.

[Stavros Halkias]

Yeah.

[Elders]

And this is before his name. And so it's like, basically this before any of, like, Harvey Weinstein's, like, legal case to start anything like that. And. Yeah, I believe this is it. Yeah.

[Stavros Halkias]

Yeah.

[Elders]

And insanely in this thing, I don't.

[Stavros Halkias]

Know who that guy is. Harvey Weinstein kind of like.

[Elders]

Like, Harvey Weinstein is like.

[Stavros Halkias]

Comes off as reasonable.

[Elders]

He at least comes off as, like, wow, this guy's like, really mean to me. And I helped him.

[Stavros Halkias]

Like, oh, man, it's really crazy.

[Elders]

It's. It's like, it bothered this guy, bothered Harvey Weinstein enough that at I think, like the 2000, whatever, Oscars, somebody walked up to Harvey Weinstein, who was like a reporter or something.

[Stavros Halkias]

Yeah, yeah. And.

[Elders]

And the. And the. And Weinstein was like, I was right about Troy Duffy, wasn't I? Man's a jerk.

[Stavros Halkias]

Damn, dude, that's awesome.

[Elders]

It's really crazy. Yeah.

[Stavros Halkias]

All right, well, we'll put it on our watches, go up, what you call the others. Overnight. Overnight.

[Elders]

I think that's it.

[Stavros Halkias]

Yeah.

[Elders]

Whatever it was, I watched it in college. So this is around the, like. No, actually, no. I was in college then, but I saw it in college. And so this is around the, like, right timing. But I feel like there's a couple.

[Stavros Halkias]

Of these that have been made, a couple documentaries on.

[Elders]

Not necessarily. Not necessarily on Troy Duffy. Because this one, I feel like, is more Troy Duffy and it's more his perspective.

[Stavros Halkias]

Okay.

[Elders]

There's one that got made, like, from the outside looking.

[Stavros Halkias]

Holy. There's more than this is.

[Elders]

I think there's more than one of these.

[Stavros Halkias]

We will do this research. Was that where it was? Like, college? Like, as a kid, were you watching these kinds of movies where you're like. Because my. You know, we could sneak up. My mom tried to. Mom was very funny. She tried to be strict sometimes, but then she would just. Would just fall through the cracks and like. Yeah, I'm in Baltimore City, Southeast Baltimore. The sun is shining. I'm wearing a tank top. The only thing that could complete this day, you guessed it, a nice, cold, twisted tea. I came down here to visit family. It's October. I thought it would be cold. No, it's still feeling like summertime out here. But even if there was a chill in the air, even though what I'm gonna do today is grill up on my backyard with some ice cold twisted teas, even when that little fall autumn chill comes across and I'm in a cardigan, you think that's gonna stop me from having the twisted tea? You're out of your fucking mind, chief. Twisted tea, what a bevy. Goes down smooth. Real iced tea. None of this fucking fake bullshit, okay? Brewed with the good shit. 5% per volume. No pesky carbonation to slow you down. You know what I'm saying? They go right down the gullet. God, what a beverage. Is there a promo code? Fuck no. Twisted Tea is basically just paying us to spread awareness for their beverage. They don't even give a fuck, honestly. I want you to buy it, but Twisted T is good. That's how good the fucking product is. You want to be a piece of shit and don't buy it, that's fine. But you're a fucking asshole. You're an asshole who doesn't know how to keep it twisted. That's right, folks, listen. No promo code, no nothing. They don't even give a fuck if this ad leads to sales directly. They just want to get the word out, and we're happy to do it. Go buy a twisted tea wherever twisted teas are sold. Can you do me that favor, you little pieces of it is.

[Elders]

It is crazy. I mean, that's. That's why kids and, like, pets end up getting what they want. You just need the persistence because, like, you. Yeah. You just can't. Like, when your dog whines. Like, if a dog wants to get out of the crate, it whines because it's willing to whine one second longer than you have. Patience.

[Stavros Halkias]

You're sure.

[Elders]

So then you let it out of the crate. And even without a real, like, sense of time, you know, like they say, dogs have no sense of time. The dog knows, I need to do this for 18 minutes plus one.

[Stavros Halkias]

Yeah, yeah, yeah.

[Elders]

And then I'll get out.

[Stavros Halkias]

Sure.

[Elders]

And that's why some dogs are so hard to train and stuff like that.

[Stavros Halkias]

Yeah, yeah, yeah.

[Elders]

And so, like, I feel like. Like, kids also have that effect where they're like, this is the thing I want. It's the only thing I want. And it's like. Like I have a singular attitude about it because I'm not, like, a farmer's.

[Stavros Halkias]

Son, and I have nothing. And by the way, I. My life is very simple, like, versus my mom, who. It's like working two jobs, three kids. Like, you just gotta catch her on one overwhelmed day. Yeah. You know what I mean? And then I say, yeah, I get to watch a movie with guns in it, and I get to have pizza.

[Elders]

You also have to ask in, like, a confusing way, because if you. If you ask the same way, they'll know it's the same thing.

[Stavros Halkias]

Yeah, yeah.

[Elders]

But if you're. If.

[Stavros Halkias]

If.

[Elders]

If you. I mean, if you walk in, parents exhausted.

[Stavros Halkias]

Sure.

[Elders]

Ready to pass out, and then you. You'll. You'll. You're like, may I watch a history miniseries?

[Stavros Halkias]

Yeah, yeah.

[Elders]

Now all of a sudden, you're watching Rome on hbo.

[Stavros Halkias]

Right, right, right, right. You're seeing boobs, huge dongling.

[Elders]

You're like.

[Stavros Halkias]

You're like, whoa, I'm interested, Mother. I'm interested in history, mother.

[Elders]

Yeah, yeah.

[Stavros Halkias]

I mean, that did happen. I think I've told a story before where it's like, we were into Dragon Ball Z and my mom didn't want us to watch, like, you know, violent movies. And she went to the. We were a big library movie family, and she went to the library and she's like, oh. And she saw some, like, anime shit. And she gives my little brother. And it was straight up hentai and I guess the library. Fuck. Like, the same exact thing happened. Some old woman at the library was like, oh, okay, this is like that Japanimation that's sweeping. And my brother was just like. I remember my brother being, like, scared to tell me and our other brother, like, you guys should watch this. Like, he couldn't even bring himself to be like. And we were like, whoa, dude. Yeah, we were just. He was literally too young to jack all. Like, he didn't even jack. I mean, who knows? Maybe, but he was, like, just too young to jack off. Like, if she had. If that had hit our house, like, two years later would have been a big problem. But that, you know, parents will. And increasingly I feel like that's happening. Like, if our parents didn't know it was happening. It's like, what the. These, like, the kids with what they are, you know, whatever message boards, like, the next political assassin is gonna be on. Like, the guy who killed Charlie Kirk. It's like, you don't even know what he's into. He's like a furry.

[Elders]

So did that.

[Stavros Halkias]

He's like.

[Elders]

Did they say. They kept saying he was like a groiper.

[Stavros Halkias]

That. But that's just because people have heard of that. Like, that's like that. I guess people really. First, obviously, like, Republicans wanted him to be gay and communist, right? And it's like, he might be sort of gay, but he's not a communist. You know, like, he's not a leftist. So. And then I think the left, like, or even Democrats wanted him to be some kind of, like, discreet conservative thing. And groipers are the. Like, that's like the Nick Fuentes, like, you know.

[Elders]

Yeah.

[Stavros Halkias]

Fucking the. But I don't think he's that either. I think he's just a weird kid in a. In a country where guns. Everyone just gets guns.

[Elders]

And she's like such a meme. It seems like such a. Like a. A meme. Way to go about everything.

[Stavros Halkias]

Yeah, that's a good point. And it's very meme forward.

[Elders]

I thought everyone was, you know, saying that he was like, in that. In that corner of the Internet because of the writing on the. The bullets the gun. I mean, stuff like that.

[Stavros Halkias]

You're reading this, you're gay. Lmao. It's insane.

[Elders]

It's. It's like.

[Stavros Halkias]

It's like a bullet.

[Elders]

It's like, that's.

[Stavros Halkias]

And it's like, what am I gonna sit here and say? I didn't laugh when I saw that?

[Elders]

It is.

[Stavros Halkias]

That's crazy. It's crazy.

[Elders]

But the thing that I. I don't know. I guess, like, the thing that I find that feels so insane to me is that, like, ever since I was a little kid.

[Stavros Halkias]

Yeah.

[Elders]

Like, growing up in Louisiana, white people have wanted a race war.

[Stavros Halkias]

Sure.

[Elders]

Like, ever since I was, like, a little kid. And not like every. Obviously, like.

[Stavros Halkias]

Sure.

[Elders]

I'm talking about very specific white people.

[Stavros Halkias]

There's a percentage of people that. Yeah.

[Elders]

And the. The thing about a war is, like, two. At least two sides have to want to fight it.

[Stavros Halkias]

Yeah, yeah, yeah.

[Elders]

Sometimes you get a third side in there.

[Stavros Halkias]

Sure. Sure. It can get messy, but we need at least two.

[Elders]

And find that, like, there is a war that so many different groups of people want. And then they'll even try to flip the war on to you where you're like, you want war too? And then you're like, actually don't.

[Stavros Halkias]

Not really. We had nothing to do with this. Yeah, please stop talking like the Joker. I mean, that's the craziest part of all this is like, the second, like, Charlie Kirk died, which, you know, shouldn't have gotten killed, but, like, every problem was like, now you're gonna regret what you've done. It's like, what the. Did we do? Some insane. Who knows, like, kid whose brain is poisoned or. I don't mean to. You know, don't make me put. Don't make me take my Knicks hat off and put my tin foil hat on. It's like. Or the CIA or Mossad or whatever. It wasn't. Here's what it wasn't. It wasn't a guy who voted for Kamala Harris that killed him. I'll tell you that much. You know what I mean? It's like. Like, and. And it's been. You're right. It's like the. The stakes have been raised where it's like, why is this. Why is the rhetoric getting violent because of a fucked up assassination that no one is happy for? I mean, personally, I don't think any podcaster should face violence. So that was my number one. That's my number one. Like, that's the lens I view it through. But it's like. It is crazy. That Very quickly it became like you killed the one who would peacefully debate you. Now you're. It's like, no, we did. I didn't kill anybody. What the are you talking about?

[Elders]

Yeah, it's also. I don't know, there's a. There's a whole logic loop that you have to try to close that like left leaning people want to take all the guns, but also they're the gun nuts.

[Stavros Halkias]

Yeah, yeah, yeah. Gay people are like trans people are like mentally ill gay guys. But also they're super criminal masterminds. And it's like which one is it, man? The which way? I know what you mean. It is, but it is. I mean that is kind of classic othering and finding a scapegoat in society when everything else is being. I mean the billionaire glass is absolutely sucking our society dry of everything. And it's like everyone is disaffected. Everyone is everyone's life. Quality of life is going down. And yeah, it's. It's a society that's very. It's very easy to scapegoat. To pick something and say it's this. Because people want to. So people want an easy answer. Yeah. I think that's really the biggest. That's what's going on here. I mean it's crazy how like they just did the fuck. I mean this would be. This be on a few weeks. But it's like the. The controlling party is now they do the. They have the same mind as like hack comedians because it's like if they have no punchline, it's hack or autism. It's like those are the two things that keep going to. Yeah. Where it's like. Or I'm sorry, it's trans or autism. It's either trans or it's autism. And it's like that's what we have. That's the solution to inequality. No fucking. No like.

[Elders]

Or yeah. Just like, just like rise in grocery prices.

[Stavros Halkias]

Yeah. Every quality of life across the board is bad.

[Elders]

Not actually like ending all these like foreign wars and everything.

[Stavros Halkias]

Right. Billions to other fucking places.

[Elders]

Yeah.

[Stavros Halkias]

It's crazy.

[Elders]

Not actually like bringing the. Not actually bringing the price of housing down.

[Stavros Halkias]

I know making it's impossible to have a house and you're talking about wanting conservative values like how the. Can people have a family when they can't afford. How can. Why can't we be little league coaches who are. I want to be frustrated with my life and take it out on a little league team, but we don't even have that. We don't even have the ability to do that.

[Elders]

Yeah.

[Stavros Halkias]

Take it on your. Take it on your son's friends. Tell them they need to run out the ground ball more because you're frustrated at your middle management job. There's not even middle management jobs that suck dick. You can't even be a guy who is like, you know, who works at a. Like pick any blinds company and makes like 90 grand a year that doesn't even exist now. Like blinds.com. blinds direct dot com. And it's just like from some guy selling them straight from Alibaba or whatever. The. It's just like. I don't know. It's crazy, but. I don't know. I. I was at the point you're making about like the two sides. Sorry I cut you off to talk about. Because I thought I was anticipating where it's like, how violent has gotten, how it's like trying. We're trying to get a war going. Is that a little bit?

[Elders]

I mean. Well, this is my thing. It's like there is. There has been a paranoia about a war because there's like, there's. I mean, in the south, since forever.

[Stavros Halkias]

Sure.

[Elders]

There's been the belief that like, there was going to be some sort of like, race war and we should do it before they do it and everything.

[Stavros Halkias]

Right, right, right.

[Elders]

And then. And then it has turned into like, not just race, like race is a part of it, but now like left and right. Since left still has, like, it's still. It's still got some of the material, same stuff in it, but it is a bit different. And even then, it's like the people who really want it try to project onto you that you want it. So then even when they. Even when they're like. They're like you. You're. You're so glad that this thing happened. And then you're like, no, I'm actually not.

[Stavros Halkias]

No. It sucks.

[Elders]

People. People almost don't know what to do with it.

[Stavros Halkias]

Right.

[Elders]

That's why, like, I've been. I mean, anyone who like, follows me or anyone who's been like, listening to me is probably getting sick of me saying this. But it's true. It's like what we've done now. And like. And it's a. It's a manner of speaking, so it's very hard to undo. But what we've done now is made anyone a representative of the right or left.

[Stavros Halkias]

Right. Right.

[Elders]

So now if I want to disagree.

[Stavros Halkias]

With them, and I have my opinions, if I disagree with you, you're the opposite.

[Elders]

Not. Not even Just that it's like, if I want to say, oh, man, the, like, all of the right are Nazis.

[Stavros Halkias]

Right.

[Elders]

And then I point to three actual Nazis.

[Stavros Halkias]

Right, right, right, right, right.

[Elders]

And that's supposed to represent half the country.

[Stavros Halkias]

Right. That's a good point.

[Elders]

And then the left, it's like when they're like. The left is like, celebrating. It's like, like, all right, look, I'm not, I'm not. I can't speak for, like, every single person. Yeah, yeah, I know. I wasn't, like, celebrating and like. And like, posting myself, like, making. Making fun or anything like that.

[Stavros Halkias]

Sure.

[Elders]

I can only control what I do. And then I also know that, like, everyone's being served a certain thing. They're trying to keep you on the app longer. So it's like, to me, it's like to let, like, all I know is that the representatives, like, Democrat representatives, stuff like that said all the things you're supposed to say.

[Stavros Halkias]

Absolutely.

[Elders]

So now the fact that, like, a former president, like, sitting senators, congress, people all over the country could all say the right thing, but, like, dip 2012 is what. Is what makes you want to go to war. Because now that guy's making fun of. It's like, what power does. Does this guy have? And is this a bot?

[Stavros Halkias]

Totally. Is it even real? Is it a guy. Is it some guy who's trying to engagement farm to get paid on Twitter? I mean, that. That happens a lot. And also, let's flip it to the other side. It's like the other representatives are using violent rhetoric.

[Elders]

Like, that's.

[Stavros Halkias]

That's the thing. That's fucking. Anyway, whatever.

[Elders]

But that's what I mean where I'm kind of like. I'm like, there's one. There's. There's one side that, like, clearly wants some sort of war.

[Stavros Halkias]

Trying to stoke up at the anti.

[Elders]

And I'm like, but you. You can't fight a war with somebody that doesn't want to fight.

[Stavros Halkias]

No. And we're also too, by the way, we're too fucking fat for civil war. That, like, that's the other thing. It's like you're telling me how many actually, how many people who are posting would. Would even be allowed into the military.

[Elders]

But that's my thing is that it's like those.

[Stavros Halkias]

It's gonna be like a snipe fat snipers taking each other out from, like, miles away. That's the only way we'll get civil war.

[Elders]

Yeah.

[Stavros Halkias]

People in, like, Wally chairs shooting each other with drones.

[Elders]

Yeah.

[Stavros Halkias]

Like, that's the Only way we're capable of civil war anyway. Whatever. So let's get some questions because we have to. You, you have to actually talk about this stuff for a living at the Daily show after this. So let's give a couple. I appreciate that this, you know, it's, it's good to talk about this stuff but we also have, I'm sure people who want permission to cheat on their wives, you know, people whose dicks are too small to get put like this is the intellectual show you've come on here, Josh. So let's get some good questions. I'm sure all this has got some really good ones for us and anything you want to plug by the way, I mean you're on the road. YouTube you put out, you put out stand up all the time on YouTube. Great channel going.

[Elders]

Yeah, yeah. If you want to check me out at Josh Johnson Comedy on Instagram, YouTube and tick tock, that's where I post my stuff. And then if you go to Josh johnsoncomedy.com you can get tickets to shows or join waitlists and then get those tickets as soon as we add them.

[Stavros Halkias]

All links in the description. Fuck, I gotta talk about that wait list shit. I've been trying to. We, we're dragging our feet on actually having our own list and that's pretty dumb. But, but yeah, go check it out and let's, let's take some calls here. LD In a world of online shopping, customer reviews matter more than anything. I know me when I'm looking for anything, I filter for 4 stars and up. Honestly, 4.5. If I'm feeling real prissy, don't give me none of that dog doo doo. I want only the best. And that's why if you run an e commerce business, you know, you, the, the reviews matter on how customers get your product. Nothing is going to level up your ship your business like shipstation, which goes be above and beyond just shipping labels. It's order fulfillment excellence. It ensures accuracy. You get shipments out the door faster and now you're going to wow your customers. AKA the shit that really matters. What your customers want, what's going to get you that five star and keep growing the business. We've been using Shipstation incredibly easy, you know, do I, am I in there day to day shipping things? No, I'm past that. But from what I hear from my trusted lieutenants, it has automated our shipping tasks and manages orders in one simple dashboard. Ah, I love that about shipstation. And you will too. There's a reason why successful businesses Use Shipstation. It'll grow with you. You start small, it'll scale up up to 40 times what you started at. Two to three times faster than average. Automate your workflow, save time, reduce human error. Nothing like those pesky this. The way this podcast is produced is almost solely human error. We need Shipstation for podcast production. They find the right carriers to get your, to get your stuff out there. They go over, you know, I think they said four. Is that true? 400 motherfuckers. Damn. They'll listen. They're gonna, they're gonna match you with the right, with the right carrier to get your stuff out there. And more importantly, they're gonna get those reviews singing they're gonna get those reviews humming La la la la la la la 5 stars. Wow your customers and get rave reviews with cheaper, faster and better shipping. Upgrade to ship station today to get 60 day free [e-mail] Stavi there's no credit card or contact or contract required and you can cancel anytime. That's shipstation.comstavi S T A V V.

[Caller 1]

Y hey Stava and guests. So here's my situation. I'm in my early 30s and both women in this story are in their late 20s. I have a really great job and a really great girlfriend. My girlfriend and I generally have a fantastic relationship. We have our occasional communication errors. I think that she's smart, kind, cute and gorgeous. She also takes her work seriously though. And we both have to travel quite a bit in our jobs because of that. We have given one another hall passes. We have agreed that if we are apart for a while, we are okay with the other person having a couple casual dates or sleeping with somebody else just for fun. Despite that agreement though, neither of us has ever actually done it in the almost year that we've been together. In a few weeks she is going away for three or four months and there is a woman at the same company as me who is obviously he.

[Stavros Halkias]

Wants to fuck a co worker. This is fucking crazy. Keep going.

[Caller 1]

Woman at the same company as me who is obviously interested in me. I'm at the point part of me wants to go and have a couple casual dates and hook up with this woman just for fun. But I'm kind of scared that if I do it, my girlfriend might feel a little jealous and the woman from work, even if she is into it, might feel like shit. Once my girlfriend comes back and I tell her we have to stop hooking.

[Stavros Halkias]

Up, well, that's not when you would.

[Caller 1]

Worst case scenario, I lose my girlfriend. And tick off my work friend. Best case scenario, they're both into it, and I'm having threesomes.

[Stavros Halkias]

Oh, my God. This guy's out of his mind.

[Elders]

I will say a couple things off top, right?

[Stavros Halkias]

Please, Please.

[Elders]

I love. I love a dreamer. Yeah.

[Stavros Halkias]

That's the kind of optimism we need in this country.

[Elders]

Like, this is. This is like. Like, and. And look like Solomon. I'm being so serious right now because, like. Like, yes, we're obviously gonna, like, roast a bunch of things that you have.

[Stavros Halkias]

To say and stuff like that.

[Elders]

But genuinely, this is the type of optimism that, like, creates the, like, pogo stick.

[Stavros Halkias]

Sure.

[Elders]

Like, this is how things.

[Stavros Halkias]

This is what got us to the moon. Because this is the thing that got us to the moon.

[Elders]

It doesn't make any sense.

[Stavros Halkias]

Sense.

[Elders]

So it's like, you need to believe, like, this to change the world.

[Stavros Halkias]

Absolutely.

[Elders]

That being said, it is so cute that he thinks neither one of them have acted on it yet.

[Stavros Halkias]

Oh, that's a good point.

[Elders]

Like, that. That, to me, is adorable. That it's like, yeah, we've had this hall pass for a year, and, you know, she goes away sometimes, I go away sometimes, and neither one of us has done anything. It's like, in my head, I'm. And I'm not trying to be mean when I say this, but it's like, I don't know if y' all really had discussion on if you're gonna tell each other, right? So maybe she's just done it and been like, well, we said we could do it. Why would I tell you?

[Stavros Halkias]

Yeah, yeah, yeah.

[Elders]

Like, why would you. Why would you want to hear that? Unless y' all are into that, Right?

[Stavros Halkias]

Sure. Then that's a good point.

[Elders]

Idea.

[Stavros Halkias]

Point one.

[Elders]

Because already, as a man, sometimes, you know, and especially if you. If you've been in relationships or if you had a lot of hookups, you know, but, like, most men don't know which women are, like, into them. Like. Like, when you're really feeling vibes, you could be feeling vibes by yourself.

[Stavros Halkias]

That's a good point. That's a good point.

[Elders]

So it's like, obviously into me. Also worries me, because any friend I've had say that.

[Stavros Halkias]

No, you're. That's a great point.

[Elders]

On the verge of maybe getting, like, slapped in the face. Because it's like, I'm reading all the signs. She's, like, eating ice cream in front of me, man. Like, what? Like, why would she want delicious treat unless she was trying to get some, right?

[Stavros Halkias]

Yeah, absolutely. Then.

[Elders]

Then on top of that, that you're assuming a. A woman who you're not already hooking up with wants to get in this mess. Like, I feel like there are like, maybe, you know, in. In Brooklyn or whatever, or like in. In Portland, Oregon or something like that. There are people that are more like ethically non monogamous and stuff. But you're assuming this woman who you have not gone on a date or hooked up with yet, just a lady.

[Stavros Halkias]

You'Ve had lunch with at the office.

[Elders]

Will. Will be like, oh, yeah, I will sleep with you while your girlfriend's not in town.

[Stavros Halkias]

Yeah.

[Elders]

As a. As a starter. That's how we're gonna begin.

[Stavros Halkias]

Well, what I love about that. So I'll. I'm with you, by the way. And the funniest thing is he hasn't thought about that because he's thinking, well, I'll her and worry about the rest later. Because he's saying when she. When my girlfriend comes back and I tell her, like, to him, he hasn't even considered letting her know, like, hey, I'm in an open relationship relationship essentially. Like, do you want to hook up? I know this is weird, but I like you and I mean, you're. You're spot on with so much stuff. And I'll take some other. I think you nailed a lot of it. The him. Them, not them not acting on is a great point. Like, do you know that for a fact? Because it seems like you're leaving. A lot of this is like, we've given each other hall passes, but no one's done anything. Do you know that? Do you have clear, like, rules and communication? Has she been fucking a bunch of other guys also?

[Elders]

If you.

[Stavros Halkias]

Okay, let's say for. For a second that that is true. Right? That they had. That nothing's happened and you're worried your girlfriend will be upset. What you should do is talk to her. You should be like, hey, you're about to go for four months. Can we read? Because. Because it's been theoretical, this hall pass thing in the past, but now it feels like if we're serious about this, we should. And not just for her, but for him too. Right? Yeah, because, like, he's under the impression that she hasn't. Where she'd be like, oh, I've been hooking up every time I go on a trip, I. Yeah, right, the weekend. Yeah. Even if you're. When you're going for eight, eight hours. I consider that a long distance thing, but. So now is a perfect opportunity to really drill down on this. That's Number one, and by the way, if you haven't, maybe both of you are bluffing and you should just be like, hey, I actually like you. I'm not cut out for this. Yeah, can we ju. I'll come visit you. Like three or four months in the grand scheme of things isn't crazy, right? You. You need to really check in because it's about to get real and you're not prepared. And number two, if you're gonna, first of all, don't fuck a girl in your office, idiot.

[Elders]

Like, that's. That.

[Stavros Halkias]

That's crazy. You're so.

[Elders]

I didn't even get to that because in my head it's like. Like, it's like, worst case scenario, I lose my girlfriend and piss off my workfriend, right? And it's like, that is not the worst.

[Stavros Halkias]

No, you get fired and you have a suit for sexual harassment.

[Elders]

Like. Like that's. This is. This is the type of thinking that. Once again. Once again, Solomon.

[Stavros Halkias]

Yeah.

[Elders]

Dream. All right.

[Stavros Halkias]

I like that you're dreaming.

[Elders]

Same. At the same time. You have to, like, in order to enact any dream, you have to understand when you're asleep and when you're awake.

[Stavros Halkias]

Yeah.

[Elders]

Because like. Like this thing of like, even threesomes now, it's like threesomes.

[Stavros Halkias]

My man, him saying that's the best Case series, which I guess he's right. I guess that is the best.

[Elders]

I. I guess. Yes.

[Stavros Halkias]

They're both like, wow, you're awesome. And we want to also each other, but no other guys, just you. It's like, all right. I guess that's technically the best case scenario. The.

[Elders]

The only way that this makes sense to me is if, like. And not to be that guy. This is very like Internet coded right now. This is very Reddit. But like, maybe he's 6 5, right? Maybe all this stuff is really a possibility.

[Stavros Halkias]

That's a good point. But that's a good point because, like, he could be rich.

[Elders]

I will say the. The whole idea truly of like a hall pass thing is already a little bit irregular. That's already a little bit like 100. Okay. You're never open to some things.

[Stavros Halkias]

Also, the only way it works is if. Yes, you are. If a guy and a woman, you have to be hot. A hot. Not like a 6, 5, like very desirable guy and. Or rich and. Or famous. That's the only way that like a guy can. Can keep pace with a. Or. I mean, I guess certain guys are like true like Casanova types or just abusive. Yeah, yeah, yeah. Or a piece of true. Or like a, or a sociopath. But like something irregular has to work for it to balance out in a way that works for people. People.

[Elders]

Because normally if you're gonna be long distance off and on, some people will just break up.

[Stavros Halkias]

Yeah, absolutely.

[Elders]

So it's like clearly want to be together. Y' all had this conversation, so I understand how it's not completely out of the realm of possibility that like maybe this is the person I will show interest in. Yeah, but like your work. Yeah, your work is like.

[Stavros Halkias]

Man, that's a great point. Here's the thing. If don't, don't try and fuck your work friend because it's, it's complicated. If you can't fuck another woman or if you can't get signs from another woman that that's not work, that wouldn't be messy, that it's just a short term fling. If you can't get that, you're not going to survive this. If the only woman who wants to fuck you is a lady that you've been sort of soft wearing down for months. If you're not the kind of guy you can go, a random girl, a random open hookup relationship is not going to work for you because you, your girlfriend, let me tell you, this will be able to.

[Elders]

Somebody can I tell you as well that like it already said the reason I think that this might be a bad idea and like I hope. Look, I don't want to plant the seeds of like making a person go crazy. I'm just saying that like the two to what you just said, right, you're gonna have, you're gonna have problems out here because I feel like it from this voicemail it sounds like you already have too deep a crush on the person you would be hooking up with.

[Stavros Halkias]

Great point.

[Elders]

So it's like, it's a great point. If you, if you're the type of person to get a, a genuine crush on everyone that you hook up with. That's the, that's like the number one reason to not do any of this for y'. All. Even if you're like ethically non monogamous, whatever. It's like, like you get, you catch, if you catch feelings every time, that's too much feelings to go around, you know?

[Stavros Halkias]

Yeah, yeah. No, this is classic. This isn't real. This is a fantasy. You're about to do it. You're about, you're about to like this is like you've been planning a heist, but now you got to put the ski mask on and you got to load the gun.

[Elders]

Yeah.

[Stavros Halkias]

And it's like, are you ready to fire the gun?

[Elders]

Yeah.

[Stavros Halkias]

Because if you're not, quit, man. This life isn't for you.

[Elders]

So also, you're doing the robbery with someone who may have done plenty of robberies before. It's like, there's in every heist movie.

[Stavros Halkias]

Yeah, yeah. His girlfriend's like, oh, yawning her beat. Her heart rate couldn't be lower.

[Elders]

Like, not even heist movie. In every kidnap movie, even the ones based on true stories, there's always one person. As soon as they kidnap this person, they go, we gotta kill him.

[Stavros Halkias]

Yeah.

[Elders]

Oh, we gotta kill him.

[Stavros Halkias]

So good luck. We don't. It doesn't feel good. I would say check back in with your girlfriend. The only way this will possibly work is you. You hook up with people who are not affecting the rest of your life and you let them know before, not after, when your girlfriend comes back. Like, oh, by the way, we're not dating. I have a girlfriend. The only way this works is you have the conversation with your girlfriend and you also have this conversation with the other person up front. We don't think you're. You have it in you. Cut out for it. But good luck, buddy. Ah, our old pals at Ridge Wallet. What a company. What a product. Streamline Slim. Some of you listening right now. Probably have an old crusty wallet. Thick as hell. Give it. Throwing off your back alignment. It's weighing you down. You're sitting on it, fucking your spine up. Disgusting. You make me fucking sick. You need a fucking Ridge wallet, baby. You need that good shit. It's stylish. Over 50 colors to choose from. Aluminum, titanium, carbon fiber, whatever you want. Sleek, it holds up. It holds a shit ton of 12 cards plus cash on a nice little fucking thin, streamlined wallet. Endless losing your wallets. The worst. That's why they got the airtag attachment. Okay, you gonna put that in your big up leather wallet? I don't think so, chief. You'll always know exactly where it is with you. And I'm a very forgetful guy. I said this last time. I have to order this. We have to talk to our friends at Ridge so I can throw that on my wallet. Elders, what the are you doing? I mentioned this last time. There was no action from you. You're not proactive at all. Unlike with the Ridge Wallet. The Ridge Wallet Corporation, I love them so much and I. I fuck with their bags. The backpack I use on my. You know, I'm a stroll Lord. I stroll with a little Ridge backpack. Just Enough for my sundries for the day charger. You know, a book. If I'm pretending to read by a park bench, looking around, seeing maybe some see me, they think I'm a well read guy. They're like, wow, this guy's smart. He's reading the Giver. Wow, he's reading. They made him read in high school. He hasn't really thought about a book since then. No, I read. I read a lot. Thank you. Anyway, that's not what we're talking about. We're talking about the Ridge wallet. For a limited time, our listeners get 10% off at Ridge by using code STAVI at checkout. Just head to ridge.com and use code STAVI S T A, V V Y and you are all set. After your, after you purchase, they will ask you where you heard about them. Please support our show and tell them that our show sent you. Please. Next question.

[Caller 2]

Big Eld Stavros eldest and guest. I have a bit of a conundrum. I went on vacation to France. Nice, kind of a half vacation, half work trip. I was studying some of the things I do for a living without going into too much detail. And as a result, it not being a get pussy trip, I was not prepared to meet a lovely young woman like you.

[Stavros Halkias]

Puts you on his calendar that way. Keep going.

[Caller 2]

To meet a lovely young woman who I had a really nice evening with and then a really nice night with some of the shit she did, man. Vive la France. So I didn't have a critical piece of equipment handy, didn't want to miss my opportunity. Decided to roll those dice. I should not have rolled those dice.

[Stavros Halkias]

Wow, bro.

[Caller 2]

Because I got a phone call a couple days ago for reference. This is about three months after I'm back stateside and she is pregnant. So obviously first question was, should we get rid of it? She was very Catholic and so she is. It's her call, of course, but I'm not entirely sure what to do. I don't think she can come after me for child support across the Atlantic Ocean.

[Stavros Halkias]

That's not the question, man. That's not the first thing you think of, bro.

[Caller 2]

And come after me for child support across the Atlantic.

[Stavros Halkias]

This guy's like Trump's, I love this isolationism. Keep us cut off from the rest of the world. Thank you. Lucky that she's not Israeli. You had to send her a billion dollars in child support, dude. This is. This is nuts.

[Elders]

Keep going all the time.

[Stavros Halkias]

This is. This is a new one, actually. Good, good question. Now this, let's keep Rolling. I need to hear the rest of this.

[Caller 2]

Dad said, I don't want to be a deadbeat dad. I don't want to fly to France once a year on Christmas. I don't think I can afford to fly to France once a year on Christmas. But I don't speak French and have no way to earn a living in France.

[Stavros Halkias]

Holy fre, dude.

[Caller 2]

But EU citizenship. And also the possibility that for at least a little while longer, I would still be experiencing what I experienced on that night. Although probably the throttle would come down a little bit on that anyway.

[Stavros Halkias]

All right, now that we've. Now that we've talked about that stuff, she was pretty good at, so maybe I her a couple more times. Silver lining. Finish up. Let's finish up what he has to say.

[Caller 2]

Come down a little bit on that anyway. Do I. I don't want to bring her over here. I mean, she's an attractive white woman. She'd be fine. But still, immigration being what it is, anyway, do I abandon my life and move to France, or do I stay here in the United States and abandon my responsibilities or something in between? Okay, love you. Kisses. Bye.

[Elders]

There's the most amount of middle ground between those two.

[Stavros Halkias]

I know, I know.

[Elders]

Crazy.

[Stavros Halkias]

This is nuts.

[Elders]

So. Okay, wait.

[Stavros Halkias]

Holy. So this is making me scared.

[Elders]

Yeah, I've actually never.

[Stavros Halkias]

What happened in London? Stop. Thank God. Nothing, dude.

[Elders]

I'm. I'm. I'm. I don't know if I've ever heard. I've known plenty of people my entire life who, like, got someone pregnant and then they were a dad and not expecting to be, and they didn't have, like, means. So it's like. It's like, now you're broke and you're trying to, like, raise a kid and everything. I've never seen an international. Yeah, the situation like this where you're like, I actually can't afford to come once a year.

[Stavros Halkias]

Yeah, that's not a good sign.

[Elders]

Like, you're saying you don't want to be a deadbeat dad, but, like, the. The. I. I guess it depends on what a person.

[Stavros Halkias]

You can't plan ahead and get a 400 ticket, bro. Can't set aside a little money to visit.

[Elders]

I mean, how were you in France on the first. Because this it.

[Stavros Halkias]

He said it was a work trip.

[Elders]

He literally said it was, like, half vacation, half work because he was there, I guess, to research or something. So it's like you've been before. Did that take, like, three years to save up?

[Stavros Halkias]

Yeah. Yeah. I mean, also, like, no condom. Just in case also, like, oh, how much. I mean, did you not inside a stranger with no condom? Because then it really is vacation. Then you're really on a. Then you're really in a Jimmy Buffett vacation mindset. You're out. This is nuts, man.

[Elders]

I feel so genuinely ill because, like. Because then also he's like, I don't speak French. I don't have any way of, like, earning a living there.

[Stavros Halkias]

Yeah. What is your job? He says he doesn't want to go into. Into detail, but, yeah, it sounds like he's a Reese, like an academic, which.

[Elders]

I mean, it sounds like he doesn't want to go in detail because it doesn't want to be found.

[Stavros Halkias]

Yeah, she can't come after me for child support. Even phrasing it that way.

[Elders]

Dude, come after me, but also say he's yours. I mean, like, this is. This is like the premier language of someone who's. Who's like, lying about what they want to have happen for sure. Because it's like, I don't want to be a deadbeat dad. Also, she'll never find me. It's like, it's. It's literally like when someone's sitting in interrogation in a cop movie, and they're like, I didn't do anything and you'll never find the body.

[Stavros Halkias]

Yeah, yeah, yeah.

[Elders]

Why would you say that?

[Stavros Halkias]

Come on, man.

[Elders]

How do you know? How do you know I'll never find the body if you didn't do anything?

[Stavros Halkias]

Because, like, yes, because, like, okay, let's say this woman is in America and you get her pregnant. She wants to keep the kid. You would just. You would probably. I don't know, maybe you would try and have a relationship with this person, but at the minimum, you would be like, okay, I will help with this kid, Right? The fact you don't get an out because she's in France. Like, it's like.

[Elders]

Like if he's hoping through, like, some. Some like, like asterisk in the Geneva conventions.

[Stavros Halkias]

Like, if you were in. Let's say this motherfucker lives in New York and this girl's in France. If you were in New York and this girl's in Southern California, that's about the same dis. Like, yeah, it's just because the geography doesn't change what's happened here. You fucking asshole. You got a kid. You have a kid. That's. Look, it sucks. We all. We all know the risks when we. When we nut. Okay? We all know them. We don't. You never think it's going to be You. It's you, brother. Sorry, that sucks. That sucks dick. But you can't be a dentist. You have to help out this woman with this kid. And you're thinking about this lady, whatever. It's like, look, I don't know what to tell you, but you have to decide. Do you want to. Do you want to pursue some kind of relationship with this person? If yes, okay, then do that. Maybe you're long term. Maybe you're visiting, maybe she's visiting. And maybe one of you ends up moving to the other's country. If you don't, then you will have separate lives. But you have to, at a minimum, provide financial support for what is your child. That's the two fucking options. There's no secret. Third, oh, you're actually absolved of all your responsibilities. I don't know what to tell you. It sucks, but it happened to you. And be a man. Step up, bro.

[Elders]

Also, you could learn French. You could learn.

[Stavros Halkias]

It's learnable. You can move.

[Elders]

And by the way, learn it with the kids.

[Stavros Halkias]

Is it the worst thing to leave America, bro? I was in Europe. I honestly am. I was looking at Amsterdam. Like, this looks nice, dude. I was thinking about moving to Greece and living in Greece and Amsterdam half the time, dude. And maybe visiting America for two months, a year or some tour if it's.

[Elders]

If it's also such a burden, you could just get married and then you would have your eu. Like, I mean, I feel like that's what he was alluding to. And it's like. It's like, now it's at least easier for you to get in and you can stay for longer.

[Stavros Halkias]

Yeah, totally the option. But. But yes, but basically they boil down to, yeah, try and have a relationship with somebody you don't even really know, which is a little weird. But fine, if you want to do that, you want to do that. I'm not judging. Or don't keep your life, but give her money. Those are literally your two options. There's no other option.

[Elders]

She could teach you French.

[Stavros Halkias]

Like, she speaks Duolingo, brother.

[Elders]

Like, she literally speaks two languages for you to understand her also.

[Stavros Halkias]

Yeah, I mean, that's. None of these are the. None of these are the actual factors. The factors are he doesn't want to admit that he's a dad now. And you are, bro. You are. This motherfucker's gonna send her, like, champagne. Hope she just drinks the pregnancy away.

[Elders]

It is crazy that Catholic as a. As a. As a new dad. Like, as someone who's gonna be a dad, right? That, like, I can see how as a. As a guy in another country, you could convince yourself you're not a dad because you don't have to be there.

[Stavros Halkias]

Sure.

[Elders]

Yeah. But it's like you, I guess you just never go to France again.

[Stavros Halkias]

Yeah. Look, dude, if this were me, I don't know, but, I mean, do you think you'd move? You think I wouldn't move, but I would be a part of this person's law. I mean, I would be, I guess, if it were me. Well, I guess take being rich out of it, because if it were me, I'd be like, all right, I guess I have a kid. I guess I'm going to France three times a year. I guess gotta work the funny bones more now. I guess I gotta be on the road 40, 30% more than I wanted to. Eldest, forget about that raise. I gotta. I gotta send a kid to private school in Leon. But, like, if I'm just me making an okay living, I would just be like, all right. I guess I would initially talk to this person, see what we have, see if we have any common ground. I guess you sort of would. Just if you're single and nothing else is going on, you kind of like this person. I would give it the college try and see, like, maybe this was just a rant. The random way that, like, I found who I was supposed to be with. If that didn't happen, then I would be like, okay, we're not meant to be together, but obviously I'm not going to abandon my kid. Here's a. An agreed upon amount of money. And I would also try and be a part of the kid's life. Maybe I'd visit. Maybe I'd ask, you know, have that kid visit here. That's what you do, man. You find a middle ground and you make the best of it. That's what you get for nutting in a stranger on. On a work trip, bro. Let this be. I wish we had a condom sponsor. I mean, how good would that be right now?

[Elders]

I mean, I. I feel like, what about you?

[Stavros Halkias]

What would you do?

[Elders]

I think. I don't know. I mean, admittedly, if I was, like, if I was in his position, I don't know, I might move.

[Stavros Halkias]

Interesting.

[Elders]

Because. Because the thing is, the thing about, like, if you. If you care about being in the kid's life and everything, like, you still have tons of options as far as, like, you don't have. If you don't have the money to, like, visit a lot, that you probably don't have the Money to bring her her here. But you could go over there.

[Stavros Halkias]

True.

[Elders]

And like, you know, people are either going to know what I'm talking about or not know what I'm like. Maybe. I don't know what I'm saying. But by and large I feel like in France, outside of like proper in Paris, like in New York, France is like pretty affordable. I thought. Like, I mean they're not having the best economy right now, but like, like the structures in Europe around how much people pay for things. When you, when you visit, you're like, oh, wait, okay. It was very expensive.

[Stavros Halkias]

Yeah, yeah.

[Elders]

You're like, it was very expensive to get over here. But to actually like live here relative to how we live, it's not, it's not that bad. They haven't screwed their people out of like everything.

[Stavros Halkias]

True. And there's a basic social safety net and all this other. That's a good point. Maybe it is just an opportunity to say fuck it and move. But. But hey brother, you got to make a decision one way or the other. Good luck, pal. This is what before sunrise should have actually been. Knocks her up and then the next two movies are like them Fighting through the world is a dark and dangerous place full of scammers trying to get your money. You are, you are not safe. You are in danger. You are. Your money is in danger. You need to use apps to transfer money that protect against scammers. Okay. Lucky for you, Cash apps got your back. We're talking built in card security that keeps your money safe and the protections you expect with the Cash app Card advanced built in security that keeps your money safe. Your personal info stays personal and you and you get help right when you need it. Some something goes awry. They got. They got a crew ready to assist you and make sure of huh, the scammers don't get your shit. We got security lock, buy a face id, biometric authentication. No one's touching your stuff, buddy. Okay? You got peace of mind 24, 7 fraud monitoring. They don't sleep. They got people across the globe different times. I don't know how they do it but they figure they got to figure it out. You can spend with peace in mind today. Spend with peace of mind today and order a cash app card in the app or at Cash App slash card for a limited time. New Cash app Customers can earn $10 off if they use code Secure10 in their profile at sign up and send $5 to a friend within 14 days. Terms apply. Cash app is a financial services platform, not a bank banking Services provided by Cash Apps Bank Partners. Prepaid debit cards issued by Sutton bank member FDIC. Discounts provided by Cash App A Block Inc. Brand visit cash app.app/legal/ podcast for full disclosures. All right, here's another one, Elders, for before we have say goodbye to our pal Josh. First.

[Caller 3]

I'm calling to get some input about what I should do about the fact that my husband, who I love so much, he is truly an incredible man, but he stopped smoking weed about six months ago for his job and he's a very serious person and I know this about him. We've been together for about 10 years. I'm pregnant. Like we're serious and I love him. Like I love him for who he is, but his goofy, silly, light hearted side comes out way easier and more often when he smokes and when he's high.

[Stavros Halkias]

She was like, help my husband stop smoking weed.

[Caller 3]

Like I, I didn't really realize how much he kind of leaned on marijuana for that holy side of him to come out and I just miss it. I'm a pretty light heart person generally and he's like, definitely just more of a serious man by nature. And so yeah, I guess what I'm calling about is to get some input on either anything that I can do to help him bring that side of him out more often or anything that I can do to just kind of deal with it because I, I just really miss being that side of him and it does come out sometimes, just not, not nearly as often. And I'm under a lot of stress with this pregnancy and I could really use that light hearted, silly, goofy side of him a little more often. So yeah, thank you very much. Have a good one.

[Elders]

If you don't mind. First of all, before we even get to this, please shout out to you for giving us the two opposite sides of the spectrum on how a man takes a pregnancy. Because, because wow, you went from someone who doesn't even want to be a dad to someone who's literally being so serious.

[Stavros Halkias]

Getting a better job. Stop smoking weed.

[Elders]

It's like literally like, like these are all things you usually try to get a guy to do before his baby comes into the world.

[Stavros Halkias]

Totally, totally.

[Elders]

And I will. But I will say though so in, in earnest, I do think the answer is, is just going to therapy because clearly there's like something about him that he's like not letting out in the everyday world and like, and, and in his normal life that the weed calms him enough to like.

[Stavros Halkias]

Sure.

[Elders]

Because I can't imagine she's just talking about the way he giggles when he's high. I imagine that that for her to keep saying side, it's like there's a whole other facet of personality that isn't coming out. And so I genuinely think that I. I genuinely think that the only way that that might happen is through, like, some sort of couples therapy. Because it doesn't sound like he's being bad. It just sounds like he's being serious. And maybe, you know, I understand that she is having the baby, but if he is being present and doing everything he's supposed to do, he's also under a lot of stress.

[Stavros Halkias]

Yes, I was gonna say that for sure.

[Elders]

I just think. Think maybe. Maybe that's the. The way forward, because too many people do the thing that she was saying or just, like, deal with it or just, like, get, you know, like, get over it or whatever, because I'm you. You know what life could be like now. Like, if this dude was always serious and you were like, I wish he'd lighten up a little bit. But you. You know a side of him.

[Stavros Halkias]

Yeah.

[Elders]

That is not this. So.

[Stavros Halkias]

Yeah, well, I think. I think. Yeah. I think he hit on a couple things that I was thinking, which. Number one, you're both stressed. Right. Like, I think that's. I think that's another thing is, like, obviously you take precedent. Like, you're. You're the one carrying the kid. You're. You're having a harder time. No question. But at the same time, he's probably worried about being a dad. Right. And also think about you. You're like, I miss his goofy side. He had the time to smoke weed back then. His job was easier. He didn't have a kid on the way. So do you miss that side of him, or do you miss how he felt when he was carefree? Because as somebody who has stopped for, you know, I did a whole year of complete sobriety. I'll go. I'll do breaks of sobriety. I've been. I mean, I'm about to probably break that pretty soon, but I haven't spoke for a little bit. But, like, I. I definitely used to think, like, oh, I need. When I was younger, I would drink a lot. I don't drink at all, really. I would smoke weed. I'd be like, oh, I need this to relax. Whatever. You learn that you're not a different person. And in fact, a lot of those things are easier when you're sober. But there is a ritual, and you don't really. You don't Miss those things you miss like the lifestyle you had when you were up all the time. I had no responsibilities when I was up all the time. And this guy, yeah, he's silly and goofy. When you get to just chill with your wife and get high for two hours a night, that's an awesome time in your life. But he's got a new job, right? Probably that means more responsibilities and so, and the pregnancy and so it's like, is it. I don't think it's the weed. I think it's probably the fact that you guys are up against a lot. He probably senses your stress. He's stressed out. And this is unfortunately, maybe this is part of growing up. But I don't think it's a bad call to be like, maybe. So maybe he's stressed. Maybe there's some therapy you guys can deal with. Maybe he's got, he needs to deal with. But I think you can get back to that goofy, silly whatever if he just. If you both sort of feel better and also to realize you might just be in a stressful point of your life, right? Like there are ebbs and flows in life. And it's like, I have friends in your exact position. I've, I've been watching it happen a couple times. People, my family, some of my closest friends have really gone through this recently. A few times, like four or five of my closest very close people in my life. And this is a really stressful time. Like, yeah, middle of pregnancy through the first like three years of a kid, people are stressed out and they're not, not goofy and light hearted. They're just not like life is. This is maybe like the hardest part of life. On like when you're having a kid and raising it from like when it's completely defenseless to when it's like a little person, it's a stressful time. And I think what's important is keying on those moments. You're like, I see it sometimes. What's going on when you see it? Yeah, I mean, what are those moments? And can you recreate the rituals? Like what were you doing when you were getting high? Was it like we'd get high, we'd order a pizza and we'd watch, you know, something stupid. Do that without the weed. Like, you know what I mean? Like recreate the rituals without the drugs and you might find it, you know what I mean? Maybe firing up super bad and getting the fucking meat lovers is what you really need. You don't need to smoke a spliff. So I don't know. That's. That's kind of my thought on the whole thing.

[Elders]

Yeah. I mean, I think you're probably one viewing a Pineapple Express away to finding your way back. You know, I. I do. I do agree with everything that you said, because I just feel like.

[Stavros Halkias]

One.

[Elders]

Of the reasons I get very annoyed. I actually had this conversation yesterday. One of the reasons I get very annoyed when people say something sideways to you when they're a little high or when they're a little drunk is because I'm like, it's in there.

[Stavros Halkias]

That's in there. Absolutely.

[Elders]

I mean, you may. You may not even mean it the way you said it, but it's in there because it's not like you get drunk and then just start speaking, like, a different language.

[Stavros Halkias]

Right. Somebody else's thoughts don't go into your head.

[Elders]

Yeah. It's like, those are. No, this. And so I think that all the things that. The looseness, because this is what you're alluding to, is, like, the looseness of that side of him, like, coming out when he smoked. It's like, that is there. You know, it's him. So then it's. It's mostly just, I think, through, like. Like communicating that maybe that's what you need, because this is the other thing, too. It's like, imagine you're over here. Maybe this is not necessarily this scenario, but, like, just as an idea, you're maybe over here taking some extra shifts. You're over here, like, stressing, trying to make sure everything's there for the B. And then it turns out your wife is, like, the thing that you could do that would help me the most is just, like, hang out with me tonight.

[Stavros Halkias]

Right?

[Elders]

It's like, that's actually a relief.

[Stavros Halkias]

Sure, sure.

[Elders]

That's like, a huge relief. It's like, you. You mean I don't need to work 80 hours a week to have money saved for, like, crib so the baby doesn't bounce out of it or anything like that? It's like, no, I just need you. I just need you to, like, hang out with me, you know, twice a week.

[Stavros Halkias]

Let's have a night where we really chill, like, hard. Yeah, you're right. That would be. That would be kind of nice to say, you know, to hear. You got to go. We don't want to make you late. So it is one. So we'll maybe we'll wrap up, do a very final one once Josh is gone. But, Josh, thanks so much for coming, bro.

[Elders]

Thank you. Thank you. I will if you. If you want to see? I will order the Uber here and then stay for as long as until.

[Stavros Halkias]

The guy gets here. Perfect. Well, good. Good luck to our pregnant friend here and we believe in you. You got a nice setup going and I think we gave you some good advice. So El, you got a. A nice quick one for us to go out on?

[Elders]

Oh, yeah.

[Stavros Halkias]

What's up, St? What's up, Eldis?

[Caller 1]

I was just listening to the live show where the guy had a call in about not getting his dick sucked by his wife. And eldest suggested using like playing cards of some sort as a forum to sort of get that conversation started a little bit. I have another super effective way of doing that. I'm 25, I'm engaged, and with some of the issues that I faced in my relationship, which is very similar to not getting head as much as I would like. Listening to this podcast with my fiance has made it really, really easy to sort of take the situations that other people are calling about and apply them to our own relationship. And it has made things a lot easier. And I don't have to do the thing the eldest said, which is like freaking out, being like, you don't suck my dick enough. So anyways, guys, I really appreciate it. Just figure out you guys would want to hear this. So I.

[Stavros Halkias]

Thanks, man.

[Caller 1]

We'll talk to you guys later.

[Stavros Halkias]

That's important that it's very funny cuz.

[Elders]

He says like a similar problem to that guy, but it sounds like an identical problem.

[Stavros Halkias]

What could it be? What's similar for just getting at all? That is really funny to just have the. Just waiting for your. Your girlfriend to come in and. And then when she does, you start pressing play on a call about not getting your time code ready.

[Elders]

Yeah, I've heard about like, people doing that. Like, what was it? There was some guy that was talking about how his wife started like, just leaving like books of erotica around the house.

[Stavros Halkias]

Hilarious.

[Elders]

And it's like, it's like that's. That's cute that you think he's just gonna start reading a random book. You know that thing that men love to do. You drop a book, we'll pick it right up, start.

[Stavros Halkias]

It better be a picture book. Yeah, it better have tits in it if you wanted to get bored.

[Elders]

Also, it's like been left around the house.

[Stavros Halkias]

Yeah, right. What is he gonna tidy up?

[Elders]

Yeah.

[Stavros Halkias]

I mean, this is not reading and cleaning are not what you think of when it comes. Although it is the kind of guy who's not one doesn't want to fuck his wife. Which is maybe he is a reader. I don't know. I read. Thank you very much. I'm also a horny dumbass, but good to know. We're happy to hear that this podcast is somehow helping couples in love each other and continue to be sexually adventurous. So keep sucking each other off, everybody. Josh, thanks for coming, brothers. Absolutely. And we will talk to you guys next time. Bye. Bye.