#165 - Ali Macofsky

Summary

Stavvy’s World #165: Ali Macofsky (January 26, 2026)

Host: Stavros Halkias
Guest: Ali Macofsky

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Episode Overview

This fun and offbeat episode of Stavvy’s World features returning favorite Ali Macofsky joining Stavros for a classic, rambling, high-energy hang. The two comics discuss everything from body image and dating woes, to family updates, to the struggles of being a cool aunt or uncle in the era of kids’ screen addiction. As always, the show fielded some wild (and sincere) listener voicemails near the end, ranging from sexless marriages to estranged family drama to navigating the “ethics” of workplace flirting.

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Main Discussion Points & Insights

1. New Year’s Resolutions, Body Image & Comic Identity

(01:02–03:53)

• Ali jokes about wanting to "get really fat" in 2026, riffing about going against the trend of comedians losing weight and how being an "overweight female comic" could be her career move.
  • Ali: “Everyone's getting really skinny right now… I could kind of tap into the overweight female comic zag.” (01:44)
• Stav laughs about show business only caring about ‘one fat woman’ every five years and warmly supports Ali's humor and self-deprecation, noting, “I think you’d make a great fat person… Spiritually, you kind of are fat.” (02:25)
• They riff on Ali’s love of “garbage food” and her emotional connection to the “fat community,” with Ali feeling like a “pick me” towards fat comics while being just average-sized.

2. Balding, Antidepressants, and Spiritual Sparkle

(03:53–07:14)

• Ali reveals she’s noticed a bald spot, suspects antidepressants could be the cause. She describes her boyfriend Mo’s shocked reaction and her attempts to figure out what’s happening.
• She and Stav reminisce about youthful spark — or lack thereof. Stav jokes that Ali’s sparkle disappeared early thanks to wild childhood antics and a brief life as a child radio star.
  • Stav: “When someone's sober at 19, they were up to no good at 15.” (05:44)
• They briefly touch on relationships and energy: outlandish comparisons, Hollywood references, and whether sleeping with people really transfers “energy.”

3. Sex, Intimacy, and Draining Your Partner

(07:29–10:42)

• Real talk about sexual “draining” and bedroom personas. Ali wonders if she’s the “drainer” in relationships (“I might be the drainer,” 08:20), while Stav admits he brings “DMV energy” to sex.
• Admits the psychic toll of unbalanced relationships (“Situationships”) and how intimacy can leave you feeling emptied out if one person cares more:
  • Stav: “Especially when you really like someone and they don’t give a fuck about you… That is literal draining of your energy where it’s all one way.” (10:42)
• Observations about monogamy making it hard to “change up” your sexual energy without it being misinterpreted as cheating.

4. Dream Logic, True Crime, and Generational Media

(11:23–17:34)

• Ali recounts weird East Coast dreams involving Edgar Wright and Glenn Powell. She laments that even in her dreams she’s a loyal girlfriend.
• True Crime/Podcast rabbit hole: Ali discusses falling asleep to the Dateline podcast, the comforting formula of true-crime TV and the nostalgia of “terrestrial radio.”
• Stav muses on the generational shift: falling asleep to actual radio as a kid, not understanding today’s streaming media landscape, and predicts a possible cultural swing back to offline entertainment:
  • Stav: “I keep waiting for there to be a generation... that wants to get away from [the internet].” (19:48)

5. Being the Cool Aunt/Uncle in the Ms. Rachel Era

(20:39–23:29)

• Ali & Stav commiserate on being overshadowed by screen personalities like “Ms. Rachel” when trying to connect with nieces/nephews.
• The struggle of trying to “compete” with children’s television — Ali jokes about making “celebrity cameo”-style videos for her nieces, but lacking Ms. Rachel’s charisma.
  • Ali: “I felt like when I see them, I do have to put makeup on... because if they see me looking haggard...” (21:58)
• Both comics agree: you have to at least maintain enough presence that you’re not “the uncle/aunt the baby doesn’t know.”

6. The Omnipresence of Your Online Self

(24:47–25:47)

• Brief, candid discussion about growing up in the age of podcasts and social media “infodumps”:
  • Stav: “Oh yeah, there’s a lot… I mean, [my nieces/nephews] will have thousands of hours” of clips to one day find.
• Both acknowledge the futility of trying to “clean up” their digital histories, and the comedy value of future generations sifting through raunchy old pods.

7. Vaping, Going Bald, and Roastmaster General

(27:39–29:55)

• Quick detour: Ali vapes, Stav teases, and they touch on the ups and downs of “bald as a career move."
• Jeff Ross and ‘The Santa Clause’ bit: Ali wonders if baldness/alopecia is destiny, and Stav riffs on comedian succession: “If Jeff Ross dies, you become the new Roastmaster General — it’s like ‘The Santa Clause’.” (29:27)

8. Caught on the Subway: Gym Gossip

(30:22–36:20)

• Ali reports overhearing three guys on the subway mocking Stav for going to a fancy gym.
  • “[They said] ‘He’s spending that much, what, to use the sauna?’” (31:45)
• Stav gets riled up: Laments classism, hate for “fat guys who clawed their way up” buying nice things, and the weird status games in NYC’s luxury gyms.
• The pair riff on gym culture, privilege, and being judged even while trying to improve (“you can’t win”).

9. Foodie Life, Gaining Weight, and Fancy NYC Eats

(36:22–38:47)

• Food fixations: Ali eats the apple hand pie she brought as a gift, and they joke about how gaining weight is easy with so many “hyped-up” NYC restaurants.
  • Stav: “Getting fat is the best thing in the world. It feels the best being fat. Staying fat… kinda tough.” (38:04)

10. Updates: Larry & Mo, Dad’s Dating Life, and Relationship Speculation

(39:54–46:36)

• Ali gives the “Larry update”: Her dad is on Facebook dating, got ghosted in Tula but “got to smash,” and is planning a move to “Larizona.”
  • Stav: “You may have gotten ghosted, Larry, but you still hit. And that’s what’s important.” (40:58)
• Ozempic/Wegovy chat — both discuss experiences with weight-loss medications.
• Mo update: Still takes diarrhea meds. Stav and Ali riff on “future poly” possibilities, threesomes, and what would have to happen to make a triad work.
  • Ali: “The only way I’d be OK with us hooking up with a hot woman is if our first threesome was with another man… you have to lose to gain.” (47:13)
• Fresh riffs on jealousy and polyamory: Ali fears being “sexually jealous of women, socially jealous of men.”

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Listener Call-In Advice Highlights

1. Initiating Sex & Husband Not Finishing

(51:02–58:03)

• Caller update: Married for 13 years, husband used to complain she didn’t initiate sex enough, now when she does, he doesn’t finish.
• Stav: “This is girl behavior, because he got what he wanted and he’s still not happy.” (52:39)
• Ali: Suggests it's likely a mood or energy mismatch—maybe try being more playful or “porny” when initiating, instead of just asking (“do you want to have sex?”).
• They both agree it’s probably not a big problem and advise open communication and finding new ways to “mix it up” in the bedroom.

2. Estranged Dad Woes

Timestamps: 59:15–66:58

• Caller: Dad absent for 21 years, now wants a relationship, used to be a drunk, is now sober but started calling/visiting constantly, then vanished when the caller stopped responding.
• Ali: “You owe him nothing… If you genuinely want a relationship, fine, but don’t feel guilty about not keeping it up.”
• Stav: “He literally abandoned you as a baby. You owe him nothing… The important thing is, it’s up to you. He's only in your life if it’s additive to you.”
• Both comics suggest: set limits or walk away, whatever is healthiest.

3. Is It Ever OK to Flirt on the Job?

Timestamps: 67:32–74:26

• Caller: HVAC tech wonders if it’s ever ethical to hit on attractive women at their homes or businesses.
• Stav: “You know the answer… obviously you don’t hit on a woman in her own home—especially if it’s just you and her and you’re the maintenance guy.” (70:11)
• Ali: Only possible exception is “Lifetime movie hot” and mutual, obvious chemistry, but warns: “If I’m the woman, and you’re being a creep, now you know where I live and I have to be nice so you don’t murder or rape me.”
• Both recommend being as professional and hands-off as possible; unless it’s a seriously mutual connection, err on the side of “do nothing.”

4. Small Boobs & Insecurity

Timestamps: 75:35–82:19

• Caller: Dating a big-boob guy; all his exes have large chests. She’s insecure about her own small boobs and wonders if/how to discuss it.
• Stav: “This is the closest a woman can come to having a little ass dick and knowing the guy before you had a huge dick.” (77:19)
• Ali: “8 or 9 months in, if he really didn’t like you, he wouldn’t be with your little ass titties.” (78:45)
• Advice: He’s with you for you—pleasure is complex, and relationships are about a lot more than one physical trait. “Try not to be like Ali and just be chill,” Stav jokes.

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Notable Quotes & Fun Moments

• “You’d make a great fat person… Spiritually, you kind of are fat.” – Stav, 02:25
• “I'm kind of a sexual pull toy—I have like three things. ‘Your dick’s so good, don’t stop, nice dick, I’m gonna come…’” – Ali, 08:54
• “I was a child radio star sensation… That’s when the sparkle faded.” – Ali, 06:14
• “I want my nephew to actually know me and then be able to fill in some hilarious gaps.” – Stav, 24:34
• “If Jeff Ross dies, you become the new Roastmaster General—it’s like ‘The Santa Clause’.” – Stav, 29:27
• “You have to fucking dress up for your baby nieces.” – Stav, 21:49
• “You can’t win. If he’d seen me eating pizza, he’d be like ‘that fat—’, but you saw me doing lat pull downs!” – Stav, 33:48
• “He got to smash… You may have gotten ghosted, Larry, but you still have hit.” – Larry update, Ali & Stav, 40:58
• “I might be the drainer.” – Ali, 08:20
• “Initiating is interesting. Like, how are you initiating?” – Stav, 53:34
• “Try not to be like Ali and just be chill.” – Stav, 82:19

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Timestamps for Key Segments

| Segment | Timestamp | |---|---| | Ali’s “get fat” comic persona & body image | 01:26–03:53 | | Bald spot, antidepressants, & lost “sparkle” | 03:53–07:14 | | Sex & energetic “drainers” | 07:29–10:42 | | Weird dreams & falling asleep to Dateline | 11:23–16:13 | | Generational shift: radio & media | 16:13–19:48 | | Being an aunt/uncle vs. screen time | 20:39–23:29 | | Digital footprints for future family | 24:47–25:47 | | Gym gossip overheard on the subway | 30:22–36:20 | | NYC foodie life & restaurant hype | 36:22–38:47 | | Larry the Dad dating update (“LaRizona”) | 39:54–42:47 | | Listener: husband not finishing (sex) | 51:02–58:03 | | Listener: estranged father dilemma | 59:15–66:58 | | Listener: HVAC tech flirting ethics | 67:32–74:26 | | Listener: small boobs, big-boob boyfriend worries | 75:35–82:19 |

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Tone & Style

The banter is equal parts self-deprecation, playful roasts, and unexpected warmth. Ali and Stav’s chemistry reflects a shared understanding of insecurity, generational quirks, and the importance of finding (and defining) your own path—be it in relationships, family, or showbiz.

If you enjoy candid, off-the-rails conversations that blend raunchy humor with sincere advice, this is an essential listen.

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Go see Ali Macofsky on tour (alimacofsky.com)!

Stay tuned for future episodes and updates on Larry’s Golden Bachelor adventures in "LaRizona".

Transcript

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[Stavros Halkias]

Welcome everyone, to Stavi's World. 904-800-stop. Call in. We'll solve all your problems. Returning fan favorite, Ally Makofsky. That's right. Bringing in 2026. It's, as we all know, mid January. At this point, we've all. We were just talking about our New Year's resolutions. You were considering getting fat?

[Ally Makofsky]

Yeah, I think I should get really fat.

[Stavros Halkias]

That would be awesome.

[Ally Makofsky]

I think, like, on. I think it would be good.

[Stavros Halkias]

Me okay. Spiritually?

[Ally Makofsky]

Well, yeah, I think all the above. I think. I think I just, like, need a change. And I think everyone's getting really skinny right now.

[Stavros Halkias]

True.

[Ally Makofsky]

And so I could kind of tap into the overweight female comic zag. Yeah.

[Stavros Halkias]

Well, historically, show business treated fat women really well.

[Ally Makofsky]

Well, I think for like, one person. I think, like, you get one fat woman for, like, every five years.

[Stavros Halkias]

I know. That's what I'm saying is, like. It seems like a bad idea on the surface.

[Ally Makofsky]

I think it's a bad idea in general. But I think for me, it's a good idea.

[Stavros Halkias]

I kind of see what you're saying.

[Ally Makofsky]

Because I do think I wear like, sometimes. Like, I've never been very fat, but I think sometimes when I get a little thicker in the face, I wear it kind of well. I think it looks good on me.

[Stavros Halkias]

You know, I not. I don't want to disrespect you. And it's not disrespect because I love the fat community.

[Ally Makofsky]

Yeah.

[Stavros Halkias]

I think you'd make a great fat person.

[Ally Makofsky]

I think so, too.

[Stavros Halkias]

Kind of spiritually, you kind of are fat.

[Ally Makofsky]

Yeah.

[Stavros Halkias]

Because you like trash.

[Ally Makofsky]

And it's annoying to be be my size, which is like very much average.

[Stavros Halkias]

Right in the middle, right down the middle.

[Ally Makofsky]

And talk about food. The way I talk about it, it's very like, pick me, like to the fat community.

[Stavros Halkias]

I mean, on tour, remember you were talking like, what were you talking about? Your McDonald? Like your.

[Ally Makofsky]

I talk. Yeah. Anything.

[Stavros Halkias]

Love trash.

[Ally Makofsky]

I love garbage food. I was just in Rochester and they're known for something called a garbage plate. And I'm like, that's what I want. Like, I love eating slop. Yeah, I love slop. But it does feel like whenever I'm around fat people and I'm like trying to connect, it does feel disingenuous. So I think instead of talking about it, I need to be about it.

[Stavros Halkias]

Right. You know your money, where your mouth is. Get fatty.

[Ally Makofsky]

Yeah. And I like, yeah, I come from like a long line of, you know, heavy people.

[Stavros Halkias]

And so it's coming for you. It's coming for one way or another.

[Ally Makofsky]

Yeah.

[Stavros Halkias]

This is you rationalizing what is going to happen regardless. Yeah.

[Ally Makofsky]

I'm just like letting people know so they're not shocked when they see me in a couple months and I'm huge. I don't want them to be like.

[Stavros Halkias]

That would be awesome.

[Ally Makofsky]

I'll be like, no, I've been talking about this.

[Stavros Halkias]

I love that. I think you would actually crush it. And yeah, you do have a fat vibe.

[Ally Makofsky]

Yeah.

[Stavros Halkias]

You're laid back. Like a fat person. Yeah. You like. And the thing is you are trash.

[Ally Makofsky]

Yeah.

[Stavros Halkias]

Which there is a big intersection between total fat and trash. And that's why I never take it personally when you talk about fat stuff.

[Ally Makofsky]

Yeah. I don't want it to come off.

[Stavros Halkias]

As like, of course.

[Ally Makofsky]

Yeah. And you know what? This is even more pick me. And I don't want to like infringe on your brand, but it is working out for you. I'm. I'm balding. I swear to God. I swear to God. I looked in the mirror. Okay, so. Okay, so I was doing my hair and I have it like I'm blow drying it and so I have it half up, half down. And, and, and it's half up, half down. Mo, my boyfriend, of course, shout out to Mo.

[Stavros Halkias]

We love Mo.

[Ally Makofsky]

He walks by and he looks at me and he goes, oh my God. And so I'm like, oh no. Is there like a spider on my head or do I have like a bunch of dandruff? And I look, there's a, there's a chunk missing. I'll show You.

[Stavros Halkias]

A chunk missing. Wait, let's see.

[Ally Makofsky]

Can you see it?

[Stavros Halkias]

There is a chunk missing. Holy. I do see it. That is eldest.

[Ally Makofsky]

Do you see the bald spot? Yeah. Yeah. So I'm coming for you.

[Stavros Halkias]

What do you think that is? The spot. I.

[Ally Makofsky]

At first I was like, I have a really high pain threshold, so I'm like, maybe I somehow, like ripped it out and just moved on with my day.

[Stavros Halkias]

Right, right.

[Ally Makofsky]

And then I'm like, that's kind of crazy. And then I was looking it up. I started taking antidepressants. I don't know if you guys can tell.

[Stavros Halkias]

How are they. Are they working for you?

[Ally Makofsky]

You tell me. Is there a sparkle in my eye?

[Stavros Halkias]

Not really.

[Ally Makofsky]

Okay.

[Stavros Halkias]

I wouldn't say sparkle.

[Ally Makofsky]

Yeah, yeah. That's been gone for a while, but.

[Stavros Halkias]

I don't know that you ever had one.

[Ally Makofsky]

I did. I did.

[Stavros Halkias]

You?

[Ally Makofsky]

Yeah. I remember a time where there was a sparkle in my eye. Drinking maybe six years old.

[Stavros Halkias]

Yeah, yeah, yeah. I mean, I met you when I first moved here and you must have been like a child. You were like fucking.

[Ally Makofsky]

Yeah, I was like 20 or 19.

[Stavros Halkias]

Or something, and I guess there was a youthful sparkle, but I don't know. Not even then.

[Ally Makofsky]

You don't think.

[Stavros Halkias]

No. Because weren't you already sober? Like 19? When someone's sober at 19, they were up to no good at 15. So you kind of. And you did. Do I feel like you did some wild shit?

[Ally Makofsky]

Oh, yeah.

[Stavros Halkias]

Crashed a lot of cars. Some cars tucking and around.

[Ally Makofsky]

Oh, yeah. Oh, yeah.

[Stavros Halkias]

So I think you kind of used a lot of your sparkle. You. As we. As we covered here, you were a child radio star sensation.

[Ally Makofsky]

Yeah.

[Stavros Halkias]

In the greater Los Angeles. Yeah.

[Ally Makofsky]

I wonder if that's when the sparkle faded the holly too much. Yeah.

[Stavros Halkias]

Yeah. You had the rock.

[Ally Makofsky]

Kind of blew my load early.

[Stavros Halkias]

You were a 7 year old that did prank calls on like Z 109.8 or whatever the fuck it was.

[Ally Makofsky]

Yeah, me and Ryan Seacrest.

[Stavros Halkias]

Oh, that's right. Your old. Your old colleague.

[Ally Makofsky]

He's lost the sparkle in his eye.

[Stavros Halkias]

Oh, the sparkles.

[Ally Makofsky]

Yeah.

[Stavros Halkias]

He's tough. Yeah, he seems. He seems like he feels like, you know, one of. Do you ever see behind the Candelabra?

[Ally Makofsky]

No.

[Stavros Halkias]

The Liberace movie.

[Ally Makofsky]

Yeah.

[Stavros Halkias]

I'm familiar where he would get like, hot gay guys and make and like, kind of drain them of their life force. He feels like he's one. He's like one of Liberace's boyfriends that's on the way out. Like Liberace has sucked him dry.

[Ally Makofsky]

Well, they say. They say, I don't know. I don't know who they is. There was this one girl in high school, Rachel, and she was like, you have to be careful who you sleep with because the energy transfers. And I was like, don't slut shame me, you.

[Stavros Halkias]

But now looking back, that felt pointed at you.

[Ally Makofsky]

It was, yeah. And now looking back, I'm like, there might be truth to that because the people who I slept with, they're not giving me energy. There's no transference that's like helping me in any way.

[Stavros Halkias]

Well, I don't know that you necessarily read as a high energy individual either. You know, I don't. I don't think.

[Ally Makofsky]

I don't think that's true.

[Stavros Halkias]

I don't think anyone's fucking you. And be like, I need some of that zest for life that's just oozing out of Ally's pores.

[Ally Makofsky]

They're like, I need a quiet.

[Stavros Halkias]

Chill out.

[Ally Makofsky]

I need to silence.

[Stavros Halkias]

I need to silently. No one makes any noise. Nobody comes. Um, that's interesting. I don't think it's like a chemical reaction of the sex, but just spending time around someone and caring about opening, Opening up any kind of intimacy with someone, I think can lead to them draining you. Yeah, in a way. In a weird way, if you just don't give a fuck about who you're hooking up with, I don't think they can drain you because you're. You're just like, okay, great, then I.

[Ally Makofsky]

Think I'm the drainer.

[Stavros Halkias]

I can see that.

[Ally Makofsky]

Yeah, I might be the drainer.

[Stavros Halkias]

I can see people being like, she just doesn't really respond. Like, she didn't really say anything. She was kind of weird. Yeah, I thought it'd be fun, but I.

[Ally Makofsky]

What are you supposed to say during sex?

[Stavros Halkias]

I don't think it's fun.

[Ally Makofsky]

It feels so performative.

[Stavros Halkias]

I agree with you. And I think. I think part of it is, for me, my whole life is talking. My whole life is performance and talking. So I'm not trying to. I have to have, like. I have lines that I have to say. I have to say certain things. Yeah. If you're in the moment.

[Ally Makofsky]

I'm kind of a sexual pull toy. I have like three things.

[Stavros Halkias]

Yeah, you have three.

[Ally Makofsky]

Your dick's so good.

[Stavros Halkias]

You're like a bop it.

[Ally Makofsky]

Don't stop.

[Stavros Halkias]

Don't stop. Nice dick. I'm gonna come. I'm gonna come. I'm gonna come. I'm gonna come. Nice dick. I'm gonna come.

[Ally Makofsky]

Harder.

[Stavros Halkias]

Harder. Yeah, twist It. That one still works. Pull it, twist it. Yeah, I don't know. I. But it's not. I don't think it's about saying stuff. I think it's just about feeling like an active participant.

[Ally Makofsky]

Yeah, no, I mean, I'm a good sport about it all.

[Stavros Halkias]

Think you have general kind of like waiting in line at the DMV energy a lot of times.

[Ally Makofsky]

Yeah.

[Stavros Halkias]

Like you're, you're very low. So it's like unless. And look, this happens where people flip. Sometimes people are completely opposite of what they're like in real life sexually. But if you bring like your everyday energy to sex, I could see that being annoying.

[Ally Makofsky]

You know what I feel like too, when, when you're in a monogamous relationship, it would be out of character to suddenly be like, yeah, like it would be.

[Stavros Halkias]

Yeah. It would be like, well, I don't know.

[Ally Makofsky]

Who are you thinking of?

[Stavros Halkias]

Totally. You'd be like, are you cheating on me?

[Ally Makofsky]

Yeah.

[Stavros Halkias]

Are you. Are you overcompensating?

[Ally Makofsky]

But I think with like a, like a one night stand situation, that's when.

[Stavros Halkias]

You can, it allows you kind of.

[Ally Makofsky]

Daniel Day Lewis, you're like, what am I gonna be tonight?

[Stavros Halkias]

I'm gonna create this character.

[Ally Makofsky]

Yes.

[Stavros Halkias]

That is interesting. Yeah, you can, you can. You're somebody new every time if you, if you want to be.

[Ally Makofsky]

Yeah.

[Stavros Halkias]

Yeah, I could see that. I could see that. Yeah. So maybe you're the drainer. I don't know. Have people drained me of my life force? Probably. But again, I think it's not the sex. I think it's just their, the energy, just who they are.

[Ally Makofsky]

Yeah.

[Stavros Halkias]

And especially when you really like someone and they don't give a fuck about you. That they, that is literal draining of your energy where it's like, it's all one way. If you're in one of those relationships. I could see that.

[Ally Makofsky]

Yeah.

[Stavros Halkias]

See that happening relationship. Used broadly, I just mean like. I don't mean like actual dating someone, but the classic situationship that's going around, you know, that's the term right now. Those are probably draining you. But it's not about fucking. Basically I'm just trying to say keep busting it wide open, everybody. Just make sure you're doing it with people who respect you. That's my general. That's my general. But don't put the titties away, whatever you do.

[Ally Makofsky]

Yeah, I've been having crazy dreams in New York on the East Coast.

[Stavros Halkias]

Really?

[Ally Makofsky]

I've been having some very. I had the most random dream. I had a dream that Edgar Wright killed himself in front of me. I don't even know this man. Like that.

[Stavros Halkias]

Like that. What do you mean?

[Ally Makofsky]

I don't know. Like, why is he in my frontal cortex?

[Stavros Halkias]

Are you a big. Do you like his stuff?

[Ally Makofsky]

No, I. I mean, yeah, I do.

[Stavros Halkias]

The running man was. I liked it.

[Ally Makofsky]

I haven't seen it yet.

[Stavros Halkias]

It's fun. I saw it in 4Dx.

[Ally Makofsky]

Oh, fun.

[Stavros Halkias]

Glenn Powell's got the cheeks out.

[Ally Makofsky]

Well, but then I had a dream that Glenn Powell was trying to. He was trying to me so bad.

[Stavros Halkias]

You're like, I'm good. Glenn.

[Ally Makofsky]

Yeah, I was like, glenn. Becca, I have a man.

[Stavros Halkias]

I have a boyfriend. Oh, that's actually pretty nice. Even in your dreams, you're. You're. You know.

[Ally Makofsky]

Well, that's the craziest dream I've had, which is so weird. In my dreams, I should be whoever I want.

[Stavros Halkias]

Yeah, it's your dreams. You could.

[Ally Makofsky]

There's been two dreams recently where I've put my man first.

[Stavros Halkias]

That's actually beautiful.

[Ally Makofsky]

I don't like it. I don't like it. That's not how it should go. I don't want to be my man in my sleep. Not even doing it away. Now I go to bed, and I'm.

[Stavros Halkias]

Like, yeah, that's how it starts. You're asleep, and Mo's like, you want to suck Mo's dick. You want to. You want to give Mo head more. He just puts, like, hypnosis tapes. You think you're having vivid dreams. He's, like, taking over your phone.

[Ally Makofsky]

My Spotify.

[Stavros Halkias]

Yeah.

[Ally Makofsky]

Yeah. I listen to Dateline to go to bed. The Dateline podcast. Yeah.

[Stavros Halkias]

Oh, Dateline has a podcast.

[Ally Makofsky]

Yeah. Keith Morrison. His voice is so incredible for sleep.

[Stavros Halkias]

Interesting. I guess it makes so much sense that Dateline would have pivoted to podcast.

[Ally Makofsky]

Well, yeah, I mean, it's just the episodes that they put on tv, but it's just the audio version. Yeah.

[Stavros Halkias]

They cut out, like, dead air when they're showing stuff.

[Ally Makofsky]

Yeah.

[Stavros Halkias]

Interesting. I guess. I mean, true crime podcasts have just eaten deadlines. Lunch. Yeah, I'm sorry.

[Ally Makofsky]

Dateline.

[Stavros Halkias]

Dateline, Date Lines, Lunch, where it's like. Because they would all. They would often have, like, a special about this woman had the perfect life until her husband killed her. You know what I mean? Or was it her husband? And I feel like a lot of those shows were the precursor. They do more than just that, though, right? Don't they?

[Ally Makofsky]

What do you mean?

[Stavros Halkias]

Don't they do more than just, like, murder stuff?

[Ally Makofsky]

No, not really. Like Dateline.

[Stavros Halkias]

Yeah.

[Ally Makofsky]

Yeah, no, it's pretty much all murder. Yeah.

[Stavros Halkias]

I've listened to some Date Dateline stuff recently, and it's, like, just this vintage, trashy, schlocky tone that, like, you know, it go anywhere near as deep as, like, a. A good true crime podcast. Right. You know what I mean? Yeah. It's, like, designed to, like, watch on your couch while eating a TV dinner. So, yeah, sure. It's got its own little wing lane.

[Ally Makofsky]

There's just, like, a nice. There's a nice rhythm to it. There's a nice cadence that you can just lock into a formula.

[Stavros Halkias]

A bygone formula.

[Ally Makofsky]

Absolutely.

[Stavros Halkias]

I get that. Yeah. I think. I think those true crime podcasts are just inevitably going to get back to that, though. Cause it starts with you really caring, and now they've just become these sort of money machines. They will get to formulaic at some point, but I could see that being sort of, like, nostalgic to be listening to that.

[Ally Makofsky]

Yeah. I never got into, like, the two girls talking about murder with mimosas.

[Stavros Halkias]

I agree. The tone is all wrong. At least Dateline has the. They have the decency to pretend it's news.

[Ally Makofsky]

Yeah.

[Stavros Halkias]

Even though it's like. It's the same.

[Ally Makofsky]

Totally.

[Stavros Halkias]

You're. You're just like.

[Ally Makofsky]

It's, like, for the family.

[Stavros Halkias]

Exactly. It's like, you know, this is. Yeah. This is for closure and to warn people. It's like, no, it's not. No, no, it's not at all. But whatever. We can pretend you have a guy in a suit talking about it. Not like a gay guy.

[Ally Makofsky]

Well, there's one guy. There's one guy on Dateline. Josh Mankiewicz. Mankiewicz.

[Stavros Halkias]

I don't know Josh.

[Ally Makofsky]

I don't like his energy at all. He's a pervert.

[Stavros Halkias]

Okay.

[Ally Makofsky]

And obviously that's alleged, and there's no proof, but the way he talks about stuff, I'm like, you're sick.

[Stavros Halkias]

When you say alleged. Just from you.

[Ally Makofsky]

Just from me. Just the vibe I'm getting. The way he talks. He. He's. There's like, kind of a. Like, you can. There's a lot of saliva in his mouth, it sounds like. And I'm like, why are you foaming at the mouth? You sick? He's just like. It's just. He's got a heavy mouth.

[Stavros Halkias]

Maybe a heavy tongue.

[Ally Makofsky]

Maybe a heavy.

[Stavros Halkias]

Sometimes people. You can tell when somebody's tongue is a little too big for their mouth.

[Ally Makofsky]

Yeah. The way he talks about stuff, I'm like, shut up.

[Stavros Halkias]

Beat it, man.

[Ally Makofsky]

Yeah, you're sick.

[Stavros Halkias]

Interesting. Yeah. I used to be a big. We were talking about this. This is a very, like a real generational thing. Like, I will tell, like, the idea that I'll tell to, like, my nephew someday that I used to fall asleep to terrestrial radio feels insane.

[Ally Makofsky]

Oh, interesting.

[Stavros Halkias]

But I really was the last. Because we didn't have Internet in my house. My parents kind of. My parents had a couple very foreign things about them, which is like, they didn't want Internet. We didn't get. We got dial up when I was like, maybe in eighth grade. And even then you weren't allowed to fucking really use it. And. And we didn't have a microwave until my dad just thought it was, like, too science fictiony. He was like, this is unnatural. It's like, what the fuck do you know about anything? Some guy, one Greek guy told them once that it was unhealthy. And we. But I remember getting a microwave and being so fucking pumpkin bombed. Yeah, but we didn't have Internet. So I did in, like, even in high school. Like, how, kid? How you, like, listen to Spotify now or whatever. I was listening to music. Like when I'm playing Madden, I'm listening to the radio and I would go to sleep to Loveline.

[Ally Makofsky]

Yeah.

[Stavros Halkias]

On terrestrial radio. And it is like, that feels telling that to somebody now.

[Ally Makofsky]

Wait, what's terrestrial radio with an antenna? Oh, I thought you were saying, like, you were listening to, like, Alien.

[Stavros Halkias]

No, no, no, no, no, no. That's just a word. Yeah. It's funny because you weren't really a child star, but it feels like you got the level of education a child star gets where it's like they pull you out of school to act and stuff, but you just went to school with children who were. Because you grew up in la.

[Ally Makofsky]

No, I mean, I grew up in Long Beach.

[Stavros Halkias]

Oh, Long Beach.

[Ally Makofsky]

Yeah.

[Stavros Halkias]

Because I feel like I've seen pictures of you with like the. Don't you show, like, picture of you with like. Did you go to school with the kids from Big Daddy?

[Ally Makofsky]

Well, they. Their grandma was my neighbor growing up, so they would, like, go to their grandmas.

[Stavros Halkias]

Oh, okay.

[Ally Makofsky]

And then hang out with me and my sisters.

[Stavros Halkias]

That's cool.

[Ally Makofsky]

But then they were such. When I like, I was working at Lemonade. Do you know Lemonade? It's like a quick service restaurant. I was working there and one of the twins came in and I was like, oh, my God, like, good to see you.

[Stavros Halkias]

Yeah.

[Ally Makofsky]

Like, we grew up. Whatever. And it wasn't like one time they were at my damn birthday party. Like, I'm not some, like, weirdo who's like, whatever. And he was like, okay.

[Stavros Halkias]

Wow. Giving you the high hat.

[Ally Makofsky]

Yeah.

[Stavros Halkias]

And it's like, we grew up together. We grew up together. And also, by the way, you're not that hot right now. Like, you know what I mean? It'd be one thing if, like, their life was a non stop.

[Ally Makofsky]

Totally.

[Stavros Halkias]

But it's like, listen, one of you's in Riverdale.

[Ally Makofsky]

Yeah. And I don't even know which one I'm talking about.

[Stavros Halkias]

And I don't know which one you are.

[Ally Makofsky]

I don't even know who you are.

[Stavros Halkias]

I'm just being polite in the way you do when you bump into. I'm not clout chasing. This is just a. It's fun to run into you.

[Ally Makofsky]

I'm trying to close a loop.

[Stavros Halkias]

Yep.

[Ally Makofsky]

I'm trying to close a loop.

[Stavros Halkias]

Wow. And. And that's the last interaction you've had with them.

[Ally Makofsky]

Well, then I saw one of the other. Whatever other brother it was. I don't know. It could have been the same one at another food service job I had. And I said, you know what? I'm not doing this again.

[Stavros Halkias]

Yeah.

[Ally Makofsky]

I'm not falling.

[Stavros Halkias]

I'm not going through this again. Yep.

[Ally Makofsky]

I said, do you want more water?

[Stavros Halkias]

Right, right, right. And he threw it in your face.

[Ally Makofsky]

Yeah.

[Stavros Halkias]

Don't look at me. Yeah. Don't look at me. Anyway. Yeah. Terrestrial radio just means radio with an antenna. But it does feel like the kind of shit like when I was growing up, it'd be like somebody telling you they listen to, like, the phonograph or whatever. Or like, I went. I used to go to vaudeville shows.

[Ally Makofsky]

Yeah.

[Stavros Halkias]

You know, it's like. Like, if I tell a child that I used to listen to the actual radio, they'll be like, what?

[Ally Makofsky]

But you know what?

[Stavros Halkias]

They'll be like, what is the radio?

[Ally Makofsky]

By the time you tell your nephew, it'll be like, do you know what? I just discovered the radio. I just got one.

[Stavros Halkias]

You're right. You're right. There will be a swing back to totally having boom boxes. You're absolutely correct.

[Ally Makofsky]

Yeah.

[Stavros Halkias]

I keep waiting for there to be a generation. It's not. I think it will happen. A generation that, like, thinks, you know, the Internet, whatever, is like, they want to get away from it.

[Ally Makofsky]

Oh, yeah.

[Stavros Halkias]

I wonder if that'll happen, if it's just too ingrained in their lives. But I think there will at least be a subculture that's like, we're getting away from this bullshit.

[Ally Makofsky]

Yeah, totally. I feel like kids are gonna start using like flip phones?

[Stavros Halkias]

I think so.

[Ally Makofsky]

Yeah.

[Stavros Halkias]

I don't think it's. I think it might need to. Might need, like, a generation. Like, we might need to see, like, how fucking stupid some of these kids right now are about to get.

[Ally Makofsky]

Yeah.

[Stavros Halkias]

I think they're gonna get really fucking dumb, and I think there might be a swing back. My theory is that rich people are gonna stop letting their kids have screens at all, and they're gonna become, like, smart. Way smarter. I think there will be a. A, like, economic split on that type of shit.

[Ally Makofsky]

But how old is your nephew?

[Stavros Halkias]

He's a baby. He's like.

[Ally Makofsky]

He's a baby. Okay. Because I'm an aunt now.

[Stavros Halkias]

That's right.

[Ally Makofsky]

And my nieces are, like, around 2 years old at the moment. And there's something really difficult about being an aunt or an uncle. Let's talk about it nowadays, because big.

[Stavros Halkias]

Aunt and Uncle Pot. I mean, we're both uncles here. This is a big uncle podcast.

[Ally Makofsky]

Yeah. Because now I noticed it's hard to be an aunt because kids have, like, Ms. Rachel.

[Stavros Halkias]

Right.

[Ally Makofsky]

And so I'm like, I'm chopped liver.

[Stavros Halkias]

Right. Especially if you don't live there.

[Ally Makofsky]

Yes.

[Stavros Halkias]

You're interacting with them through a screen. The way they interact with Ms. Rachel.

[Ally Makofsky]

Yes. But they get Ms. Rachel more often.

[Stavros Halkias]

And she's bringing the heat.

[Ally Makofsky]

Yeah, totally. You know, and it's like she's talking to them like, hi. And then they see me and I'm like, hey. And they're like, we don't like that voice.

[Stavros Halkias]

Smile more.

[Ally Makofsky]

Yeah. We don't like your energy.

[Stavros Halkias]

They cat call you.

[Ally Makofsky]

Yeah.

[Stavros Halkias]

Would it hurt you to smile on Ally?

[Ally Makofsky]

So I have to, like, compete with this.

[Stavros Halkias]

Put a little makeup on. On Do.

[Ally Makofsky]

I do notice. I'm like. I feel like when I see them, I do have to put makeup on because I feel like if they see me looking hagrid, they get scared. I didn't think that would be so funny.

[Stavros Halkias]

That's hilarious. You have to fucking dress up for your baby nieces.

[Ally Makofsky]

Yeah. Because I feel like they want someone kind of polished.

[Stavros Halkias]

Right, right, right.

[Ally Makofsky]

And if I'm just coming out, coming over, or like, right. Waking up, they're like, like, ew, you're sc.

[Stavros Halkias]

So funny.

[Ally Makofsky]

Yeah. Really?

[Stavros Halkias]

Well, is that a different. Like, does you. Were you. Are you the most low maintenance of your siblings? Like, gotcha.

[Ally Makofsky]

Yeah.

[Stavros Halkias]

So their mom probably.

[Ally Makofsky]

Yeah. My sisters are always, like, looking good. Gotcha. Plus, also, like, when it's your own mom, like, they could look hag, but they're. It's comforting.

[Stavros Halkias]

Yeah. When you're.

[Ally Makofsky]

But me, I'm stranger danger.

[Stavros Halkias]

Hi. Can I have a hug?

[Ally Makofsky]

Can I have a hug?

[Stavros Halkias]

Hug me. How often do you see. Are they like, like. I mean, cuz don't they. Weren't they on the road somewhere and they live there?

[Ally Makofsky]

Arizona, Arizona and the Bay Area. So I don't see them super often.

[Stavros Halkias]

Right.

[Ally Makofsky]

But there was a time where I was trying to like be the Miss Rachel of my family and like make videos and send it to my sisters to show them. So they would like see me often. But I just don't have the charisma or the charm. Yeah, you can. For like front facing videos you can't compete.

[Stavros Halkias]

No. With these, these. She's got it dialed the in.

[Ally Makofsky]

It's brutal.

[Stavros Halkias]

And you know, she. Yeah. That is very funny to be getting outdone by Ms. Rachel.

[Ally Makofsky]

Yeah.

[Stavros Halkias]

I love the idea that you were trying to make stand not you facetime them. You're making videos for them to watch.

[Ally Makofsky]

Yeah.

[Stavros Halkias]

That's really hilarious. You're like, this is how I'll interact with my niece.

[Ally Makofsky]

I'm like a D list celebrity on cameo.

[Stavros Halkias]

I'm like, hey, you're making cameos for your nieces. Hi.

[Ally Makofsky]

You might recognize me from family.

[Stavros Halkias]

That is fucking awesome. Yeah. I'm excited to get a little. I am excited to be in the uncle zone. My brother's in Baltimore. I just kind of want to see the kid like I don't know, once a month or so if I can because it's not that far. It's also. But I have noticed. I don't know if this is true for you. Now I'm pissed because I kind of have to spend the holidays with my family. Yeah. Because it's like before it was so easy to like avoid you. I don't care about you. But then there's a baby. You got to see the baby.

[Ally Makofsky]

You want to be there for the baby.

[Stavros Halkias]

Totally. You don't want to be the guy who the baby doesn't know. You know what I mean? Cuz it's like.

[Ally Makofsky]

And it happens, especially as an uncle. I feel like it's similar to like dads where it's like you could just be a loser.

[Stavros Halkias]

Of course. Yeah.

[Ally Makofsky]

You want to be there.

[Stavros Halkias]

Well, I've made peace with. I will be the strange uncle.

[Ally Makofsky]

Sure.

[Stavros Halkias]

You know, my life's bizarre.

[Ally Makofsky]

Yeah.

[Stavros Halkias]

And like. But I need to be there at least so that by the time he figures out how weird I am, he'll have an actual relationship to me.

[Ally Makofsky]

Yes.

[Stavros Halkias]

I don't want him finding out who I am by listening to the cometown back catalog. You know what I mean? I want him to have an idea.

[Ally Makofsky]

Of the real you.

[Stavros Halkias]

Yeah. I don't want him to have the same opinion of me as like weird Reddit guy, You know what I mean? Like, I want him to actually know me and then be able to fill in some hilarious gaps.

[Ally Makofsky]

Totally.

[Stavros Halkias]

It will be funny how much we've put out of ourselves though, for like next generations.

[Ally Makofsky]

I haven't even thought about that.

[Stavros Halkias]

Oh yeah, there's a lot. All. All our disgusting material and just podcasting. I mean, thousand. Like I've been talking for thousands of hours.

[Ally Makofsky]

Yeah.

[Stavros Halkias]

Now the luck. Luckily, I don't think they'll give a fucking enough about us to do it. That's the saving grace. Your. Your. Your nieces are gonna be like, I'm not listening to that busted bitch talk.

[Ally Makofsky]

Yeah.

[Stavros Halkias]

You know my.

[Ally Makofsky]

My like theory right now on. On the Internet. And like, being out there, at first I was like. I was like, oh, like, I don't know, I just had this warped. I think I was just dumb. And I was like, nothing lasts forever. And then with the Internet, it really does. And so now I'm like, I'll do anything online because the more that's out there, the harder.

[Stavros Halkias]

Yeah, I kind of see that. I kind of understand that logic. And I think to them, for the most part, that will be true. It'll just be. If it ever changes. Boy, oh boy.

[Ally Makofsky]

Yeah.

[Stavros Halkias]

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[Stavros Halkias]

How's the vape? You charging the vape?

[Ally Makofsky]

I'm charging it up. I love it. So good. I love it. Like, before I got in here, it was kind of like hitting in a way where I was getting heart palpitations and I was like, yes, that's the good yes.

[Stavros Halkias]

Yeah.

[Ally Makofsky]

Because I feel like I vape so much that I don't really feel it.

[Stavros Halkias]

Right.

[Ally Makofsky]

And so when it kind of creates some sort of reaction, I'm like, yeah, yeah.

[Stavros Halkias]

Even if it's your heart.

[Ally Makofsky]

Yeah.

[Stavros Halkias]

Being like, stop, Break. Please stop doing this. But you're like, no, I'm having a rush.

[Ally Makofsky]

So good.

[Stavros Halkias]

Yeah. What flavor are we working with?

[Ally Makofsky]

Just Virginia tobacco. Classic. Simple.

[Stavros Halkias]

Classic.

[Ally Makofsky]

Classic and simple. Yeah.

[Stavros Halkias]

With. With your Netflix as a joke power bank.

[Ally Makofsky]

Yeah. Gotta stay charged. Gotta stay juiced up. Perks of the fest.

[Stavros Halkias]

Of course.

[Ally Makofsky]

Perks of the fest. Love a swag bag.

[Stavros Halkias]

Are you doing anything about going bald in that patch or are you just gonna let it ride?

[Ally Makofsky]

Well, the nice thing is I shaved my four and I look decent. Bald.

[Stavros Halkias]

Yeah.

[Ally Makofsky]

I can rock a bald head.

[Stavros Halkias]

So you're. You've gone fully to. I might have to go ball if I go bald.

[Ally Makofsky]

I accept.

[Stavros Halkias]

So you're gonna get fat as and have a buzz cut.

[Ally Makofsky]

No, I can't do that. I can't be fat.

[Stavros Halkias]

You can't do both?

[Ally Makofsky]

Well, I'm just. I'm. I'm tracking the progress. So far, it looks like the follicles are growing back.

[Stavros Halkias]

Okay.

[Ally Makofsky]

And I've been blessed with a great head of hair, so I think I'm good.

[Stavros Halkias]

Okay. Okay.

[Ally Makofsky]

But I'm like. At first I was like, am I going to have alopecia? Like, am I going to have to Be the new Roast Master General.

[Stavros Halkias]

Like, is that what he's got alopecia. Yeah.

[Ally Makofsky]

Jeff Ross.

[Stavros Halkias]

That's hilarious.

[Ally Makofsky]

Yeah. He's got no eyelashes, no lashes. No lashes, no eyebrows late in life.

[Stavros Halkias]

Alopecia. I've never even heard of that.

[Ally Makofsky]

Yeah, but I think this is just a fluke.

[Stavros Halkias]

Okay.

[Ally Makofsky]

Yeah, but I mean, yeah, it would.

[Stavros Halkias]

Be funny if you. If Jeff Ross dies, you become. It's like the Santa Claus where it's like. Have you ever seen the Tim Allen Santa Claus where it's like he becomes a new Santa Claus and, like, within, like, a couple days, he's fatty and he has a beard?

[Ally Makofsky]

Yes.

[Stavros Halkias]

If you become the new Roastmaster General, maybe that's what's going on. Maybe Jeff.

[Ally Makofsky]

Maybe Jeff is about to die.

[Stavros Halkias]

Every. The balder you get, the closer to death he gets and the fatter you get. Maybe that's what's going on in your head.

[Ally Makofsky]

Oh, my gosh. Wow. It's gonna be so awkward when I see him, I'm like, I'm so sorry.

[Stavros Halkias]

I'm so sorry. I didn't cheat.

[Ally Makofsky]

You're about to die. You're on the way out.

[Stavros Halkias]

You better brush up on your roast jokes. Wow, that would be nice. Yeah, maybe if it worked that way. If you got to just inherit the generalship.

[Ally Makofsky]

Me and Dava Tell are about to have an incredible friendship.

[Stavros Halkias]

You're gonna be bumping Mike.

[Ally Makofsky]

Yeah.

[Stavros Halkias]

You said. Look, you said before we started that you on the train here heard some people talking about me.

[Ally Makofsky]

Yeah, I didn't want to say that part. I was just gonna be like, they were talking about so cool, but they weren't.

[Stavros Halkias]

We should have known there was going to be the naturals followup. Oh, cool. What were they saying? You're like, it doesn't matter.

[Ally Makofsky]

Doesn't matter.

[Stavros Halkias]

All press is good press. What?

[Ally Makofsky]

I recorded a. The tail end.

[Stavros Halkias]

Can you just.

[Ally Makofsky]

I was too late to get the full.

[Stavros Halkias]

Well, just give us like, a. A. I'll set it up. Okay.

[Ally Makofsky]

I'll set it up before we roll the clip. So I'm on the train, and there's three guys, of course, three white men. And it starts out with one of the guys going, yeah, I saw Stravros at the gym. You know Stravros Halkiest Gym.

[Stavros Halkias]

Okay.

[Ally Makofsky]

I'm at the gym. Which kind of shout out the gym.

[Stavros Halkias]

No.

[Ally Makofsky]

Okay.

[Stavros Halkias]

Absolutely not. Yeah, yeah.

[Ally Makofsky]

So they're like, whoa, that gym. He's going to that. What's he doing there? What are you guys watching? Stravi gets ripped.

[Stavros Halkias]

Come on. Also so how. What the fuck do they. Their assholes. They're just some fucking three assholes. I'm on. I'm in this pissing me off. I can afford a nice gym, you motherfuckers. They go, oh, I'm doing good.

[Ally Makofsky]

He's spending that much. What, to use the sauna?

[Stavros Halkias]

All right, they got. They got me there. Or was that you? The sauna joke?

[Ally Makofsky]

I've chimed in.

[Stavros Halkias]

Yeah, yeah, yeah, that fat. What's he wasting this money for? He should be. I. I heard he was a planet finish. Only showing up on the pizza days.

[Ally Makofsky]

Here's the tail end of that combo.

[Stavros Halkias]

I don't think it's legal to do this. Can't really hear.

[Ally Makofsky]

You can hear it at the beginning.

[Stavros Halkias]

Oh, they said that. They're not even laughing, which I. It's like, shit talk me, but at least get a little enjoyment out of it. And I'm not opposed to mocking a fat guy, a fat stranger. But what kills me is they're not even enjoying being like, that fat piece of shit's probably just going for the sauna. They're like, yeah, he probably. It kills me because there's like, yeah, he probably is.

[Ally Makofsky]

Yeah.

[Stavros Halkias]

I mean, there's no. I was working out, you fucking pricks.

[Ally Makofsky]

I know. And the guy who saw you there could have defended you and been like, he was there. I saw him. He's using the elliptical.

[Stavros Halkias]

I would. First of all, I'm. I'm fine following Arnold's. I'm doing the pump app. Arnold's Fit. Arnold's Pump Club. Oh, and yes, on this season of Stop It Gets Ripped. I was doing mostly body weight exercises, but I've started moving some real iron.

[Ally Makofsky]

Okay.

[Stavros Halkias]

So I don't know what this saw, although I will say if he saw me yesterday, I had a shoulder injury and I was going lighter at the gym.

[Ally Makofsky]

Okay.

[Stavros Halkias]

But I was moved. I was still on the machines. Let them know this is pissing me off.

[Ally Makofsky]

I know.

[Stavros Halkias]

It's so funny because when you, you were like. They were talking. I was like, oh, they're calling me unfunny me. They're, you know, they're just called. Or they're calling me generally fat, but for a guy who saw me at the. You saw me at the gym. What am I supposed to do? You can't win. You. You can't do anything with these. If he had seen me eating pizza, he would have been like, that fat. But he saw you saw me doing lat pull downs.

[Ally Makofsky]

Yeah, I did want to chime in, but I.

[Stavros Halkias]

That's pretty funny.

[Ally Makofsky]

I had to kind of let.

[Stavros Halkias]

Let it was anything else going on. Did you cat. Would they. They. Did they move on?

[Ally Makofsky]

No, one of the guys got off and then the conversation pivoted. Yeah, it was kind of like group mentality, I think it was because there was a third guy there. They're like. And stuff's fat at the gym. And then as soon as the guy got off, they're like, what does he do for work again? Yeah, yeah.

[Stavros Halkias]

Okay. Nice. Yeah, it moved to him. Yeah, we're talking on him.

[Ally Makofsky]

Yeah, totally.

[Stavros Halkias]

Okay, so this is not a good group of guys.

[Ally Makofsky]

No, no.

[Stavros Halkias]

This is a group of jackals.

[Ally Makofsky]

And I think it was like, a situation where I did want to chime in and be like, he's actually really trying hard to, you know, get ripped. And his brother's like, a fitness guy. And, like, it's kind of all in.

[Stavros Halkias]

The family, you know, it's kind of hard.

[Ally Makofsky]

But the type of guys that it was, I was scared they were gonna be like, shut up. You're fat too, bitch. Like, I didn't know where it was gonna go.

[Stavros Halkias]

That's right. Okay, I will say what annoys me about Go. So, yeah, it's a nicer gym. We won't say what it is. Yeah, but it's like, I was poor and got rich through entertainment. They're clearly just. They've been rich their whole lot. They're clearly like New York rich guys who do see things that cost more. They see it as an unofficial caste system where they're like, we're finance guys. Our dads have been finance guys. We deserve nice things. But some fat slob who clawed his way out of the mud through podcasting, he doesn't deserve to be here. And I will say, getting to do nicer shit, I actually hate it because the people you're around suck. Like, going to a nice gym, it's like. Like, I. I'm. I'm 36 and I've been working hard as for, like, you know, a long time. And I'm like, okay, this is nice. And then you're just there and you see, like, 22 year olds and they have like. Like, you know, some Ivy League or an NYU sweatshirt. And you're like, they didn't pay for that college. They didn't do anything. And it's like they've just had nice their whole lives. And it's like, this should. You should have to work to get nice stuff.

[Ally Makofsky]

Yeah.

[Stavros Halkias]

So anyway, those guys, I did let them get to me. Unfortunately, I'm sorry, but it is. It's like, what do you want? I'm at the gym, you prince.

[Ally Makofsky]

Yeah. And that would be such a flex to pay so much for a gym membership to just use the sauna. That is kind of a.

[Stavros Halkias]

And I don't even use the sauna. Yeah, I'm there. And I will say a nice gym. Actually didn't. I thought it was gonna be so awesome. I thought it'd be like, you walk in, they give you a little mint, cucumber waters, nice warm towel. Yeah. Nice warm towel. It's just a gym. Gym.

[Ally Makofsky]

Yeah.

[Stavros Halkias]

I'm going back to the regular one.

[Ally Makofsky]

Man, I'm hungry. I know that I got this for you as, like, a little gift, but could I just.

[Stavros Halkias]

You can absolutely have some. Yeah. I'm actually trying to be healthier.

[Ally Makofsky]

I'm starting to get the shakes.

[Stavros Halkias]

Do you not have brekkie?

[Ally Makofsky]

No, not yet.

[Stavros Halkias]

That's. Okay. Well, why don't you just enjoy the gift you got me as your breakfast?

[Ally Makofsky]

Thank you.

[Stavros Halkias]

Because I probably won't. I. I probably would have had a bite to be polite, but, you know, I have some. I have some meal prepped food waiting for me. Me.

[Ally Makofsky]

Smell it, though.

[Stavros Halkias]

I will smell. Oh, that smells.

[Ally Makofsky]

Yeah. Lisa, it was bad. Suck my ass.

[Stavros Halkias]

Oh, yeah. Where is it from?

[Ally Makofsky]

The corner store. Tough res to get. Tough res to get.

[Stavros Halkias]

Lisa, I apologize.

[Commercial Announcer]

I didn't.

[Stavros Halkias]

I thought you just went to some dumb restaurant. I didn't realize you, like, had to get a reservation. She, by the way, she didn't say it was horrible. She just said it was maybe a little overrated.

[Ally Makofsky]

Well, you know what?

[Stavros Halkias]

I would Will, because isn't this, like, Taylor Swift's favorite restaurant?

[Ally Makofsky]

Yeah. Yeah. But I will say in Lisa. Lisa's defense, the first time I went, it was incredible. And I did notice when we went, it wasn't as good as the last time.

[Stavros Halkias]

I was. The natural cycle of restaurants. Yeah, they get in the cycle.

[Ally Makofsky]

It's still good, though. But I could see if that's your first time going, being like, this is a little bit overhyped.

[Stavros Halkias]

Right.

[Ally Makofsky]

But the time I went before was so.

[Stavros Halkias]

So was it still hyped when you went?

[Ally Makofsky]

Yeah, I mean, yeah. Yeah.

[Stavros Halkias]

So delivered on the hype.

[Ally Makofsky]

Delivered on the hype. And I. And I was walking down the street after my first time at the corner store, and I had a little to go to go box, and people were stopping me. They go, is it good?

[Stavros Halkias]

Are you serious? And I was telling them, having the.

[Ally Makofsky]

Bag, just having the bag. People were like, how was It.

[Stavros Halkias]

You're a celebrity. Just by.

[Ally Makofsky]

I know. It felt good.

[Caller 1]

Yeah.

[Stavros Halkias]

And this, by the way, this is how you get fat. You go to all these fancy places, you seem like a power player, and you're eating, like, all the butter. You're like, more rolls and butter. You know what I mean? It would be so getting fat is the best thing in the world. It feels the best being fat.

[Ally Makofsky]

Cheers.

[Stavros Halkias]

Kind of tough, but be getting awesome staying fat your entire life. There are some health downsides. That looks fucking awesome. I'm fucking jealous, Ellis. Wait, what is that?

[Ally Makofsky]

It's an apple hand pie.

[Stavros Halkias]

Save me a bite there. The most engaged eldest has been all morning. Don't go too crazy over there with that.

[Ally Makofsky]

Like a sleeper.

[Stavros Halkias]

Don't.

[Ally Makofsky]

What's happening?

[Stavros Halkias]

Okay, I have to tell you, I.

[Ally Makofsky]

Was just looking on ebay, where I go for all kinds of things I like. And there it was.

[Stavros Halkias]

That hologram trading card. One of the rarest. The last one I needed for my set. Shiny, like the designer handbag of my dreams.

[Ally Makofsky]

One of a kind.

[Stavros Halkias]

Ebay had it.

[Ally Makofsky]

And now everyone's asking, ooh, where'd you.

[Stavros Halkias]

Get your windshield wipers? Ebay has all the parts that fit my car. No more annoying, just beautiful. Millions of finds, each with a story. EBay, things people love.

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[Stavros Halkias]

Why don't we do. You know, before we get to the calls, why don't we do a little update? How's, you know, how's your dad doing? We're big Larry fans. Here, Here.

[Ally Makofsky]

I was actually gonna say. Should we call him? Have you ever talked? Have we ever called him?

[Stavros Halkias]

We haven't called him because he's. We met him. He came to the show.

[Ally Makofsky]

Oh, that's right. You met him.

[Stavros Halkias]

Yeah, Yeah, I met him. I met your cousin.

[Ally Makofsky]

You met my cousin?

[Stavros Halkias]

Yep. Your aunt.

[Ally Makofsky]

Yes. Okay. So my dad is now on Facebook dating. Hell, yeah. So he's been. I don't know, like. I don't know if you would want to talk to him about that, but he got ghosted. He got ghosted by a woman in Tula.

[Stavros Halkias]

And how far is that from him?

[Ally Makofsky]

Pretty far. So it wasn't going to ultimately work.

[Stavros Halkias]

But they were talking.

[Ally Makofsky]

But they were talking and it was. I met her. It was going kind of well.

[Stavros Halkias]

Okay.

[Ally Makofsky]

But yeah, he got.

[Stavros Halkias]

So he got to smash. Nice.

[Ally Makofsky]

He got to smash.

[Stavros Halkias]

Where were the applause? Eldis, you out. You're blowing it, dude. Okay, so you know, still hit the classic. You may have gotten ghosted, Larry, but you still, you still have hit.

[Ally Makofsky]

Yeah.

[Stavros Halkias]

And that's what's important.

[Ally Makofsky]

Well, but that's kind of the tough thing is like she ghosted after they smash. So I'm like, damn, like, what's going on with Larry? What is he doing?

[Stavros Halkias]

There is something I'm thinking about this where it's like the worst thing that can happen to you is to fuck someone once. Because that means you did. You got them to. They took a chance. They were into it. Cuz that's happened. The ones that hurt the most are not girls who just like never wanted to hang out. It's like whatever. You get rejected. You get rejected. The girls that you like. I'm thinking of like, particularly ones where I did have to really charm them and you could tell I wasn't necessarily their type, but I was crushing it so hard that I got to like smash. And then you never get the follow up and you try. Oh, that's a tough one.

[Ally Makofsky]

Yeah.

[Stavros Halkias]

Larry's in that tough one to get. To get ghosted after one smash is maybe the worst thing of all time.

[Ally Makofsky]

Totally.

[Stavros Halkias]

It's not. But it's. It's not better, you know, it's better to have loved and lost and never loved at all. It's not true of smashing.

[Ally Makofsky]

Yeah. Smashing to different.

[Stavros Halkias]

Yeah. Yeah. You want to smash multiple times or not at all, in my opinion.

[Ally Makofsky]

But he's had like a positive outlook on it. He was like, you know what? What? It was never going to work. She was in Tula, you know, and so he changed his location to Arizona cuz he's. He's beginning to move out there. He's transitioning to Arizona. He calls it larizona. Isn't that incredible?

[Stavros Halkias]

Larizona is awesome. He's going to be do. He's going to do just fine.

[Ally Makofsky]

Totally.

[Stavros Halkias]

LaRizona. I need a LaRizona T shirt.

[Ally Makofsky]

Yeah, I should.

[Stavros Halkias]

LaRizona Iced Tea.

[Ally Makofsky]

Yeah. Yeah. So now he's like, he's got these like Arizona ladies on Facebook dating and we'll see how.

[Stavros Halkias]

Honestly, that's a good place to. To be a golden bachelor. Arizona. I feel like you got a lot of horny old ladies out there. All right, good, good. I'm glad to hear that for Larry.

[Ally Makofsky]

Yeah.

[Stavros Halkias]

He hit. He got the smash.

[Ally Makofsky]

Oh, and he's losing weight. He's on Wegovy.

[Stavros Halkias]

We go.

[Ally Makofsky]

But he's starting to. He's starting to eat through it.

[Stavros Halkias]

Yeah, yeah. Oh, I have some experience with that.

[Ally Makofsky]

Yeah.

[Stavros Halkias]

You got to really know your cuz. I basically got Zepbound prescribed me by kind of a fake doctor. Like the kind of doctor that like.

[Ally Makofsky]

You know, OIC's like the new medical marijuana. You have headaches?

[Stavros Halkias]

Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. Here you go. Yeah, absolutely. And also when you're. When you just look fat because it's like you need these guys. You need guys to fake it. When you're like a lady who wants to lose like £20 and you probably really shouldn't or even less. Like I know people who like maybe at like 10 pounds they were trying to lose or 5 pounds like crazy to get on it. But for me there was no fight. I got prescribed it fast, but he didn't really know what he was doing with the dosing. So I kind of wasted a couple months on the wrong dose and I started talking to him like it was.

[Ally Makofsky]

Too low or too low. Uhhuh.

[Stavros Halkias]

You're supposed to go up like pretty.

[Ally Makofsky]

Pretty regularly, like every month or so.

[Commercial Announcer]

Yeah.

[Stavros Halkias]

And I just didn't go up for like four months.

[Ally Makofsky]

Oh, that's crazy.

[Stavros Halkias]

So I just kind of maintained. I'm on a. I fixed my now and I feel it back in. I feel like it's actually working again. Yeah, but, but maybe so maybe layer just needs to go up in dose is all I'm saying.

[Ally Makofsky]

Maybe. Yeah. He was really scared at first though. He was like, I don't want needles. And now he's just.

[Stavros Halkias]

Now he's.

[Ally Makofsky]

Yeah, yeah, yeah.

[Stavros Halkias]

He's like if he's a. He's tying off. Good for lair.

[Ally Makofsky]

Yeah.

[Stavros Halkias]

I love the Larry update.

[Ally Makofsky]

Yeah.

[Stavros Halkias]

Anything. Any other general updates? How's Mo doing? Is he still taking diarrhea medicine? Every day.

[Ally Makofsky]

Every single day. Every single day. Terrible diarrhea.

[Stavros Halkias]

Yeah, man. Moe's the man.

[Ally Makofsky]

Yeah. What, what's, what's new with Mo ho daddy? I don't know too much.

[Stavros Halkias]

You guys are just going to. Nice. Yeah. My theory that you know, you'll eventually just become a lesbian as that started and he'll start dating like you know, 22 year old. She's going to get nipple piercings and just be like a weird.

[Ally Makofsky]

I've already had nipple piercings.

[Stavros Halkias]

No, he's going to get.

[Ally Makofsky]

Oh wait, why would you do that?

[Stavros Halkias]

Cuz I think he's going to transition here's my view for it.

[Ally Makofsky]

Okay.

[Stavros Halkias]

He's going to transition to, like a super sex positive, like, Dom.

[Ally Makofsky]

Oh, I love that.

[Stavros Halkias]

You know, but you'll be out of the picture.

[Ally Makofsky]

Oh, well, well.

[Stavros Halkias]

Or you guys will have like a. You'll have a girlfriend.

[Ally Makofsky]

Okay.

[Stavros Halkias]

You guys have like a weird poly thing.

[Ally Makofsky]

You know what I thought about?

[Stavros Halkias]

Yeah. You know, cuz when you get fat. Listen, you're going to get fat.

[Ally Makofsky]

I'm going to get fat. He said he would leave me if I got fat.

[Stavros Halkias]

But I think you would. The same way you have, like a fat vibe. You have a lesbian vibe as well. So I'm just saying I could see you becoming a fat lesbian.

[Ally Makofsky]

Totally.

[Stavros Halkias]

But who still has a beautiful rel. The way gay guys who are in open relationship stay in a sexless marriage. I could see you and Mo transitioning to a weird sexless marriage.

[Ally Makofsky]

He'll be the father of my children.

[Stavros Halkias]

Yes, yes, absolutely.

[Ally Makofsky]

But I'll have a beautiful woman.

[Stavros Halkias]

You'll have a beautiful woman. He'll be dating, like, aspiring podcasting influencers. You know, he'll be getting sucked off left and right.

[Ally Makofsky]

Of course.

[Stavros Halkias]

He'll be into let. He'll have leather. He'll be wearing, like, you know, he'll have, like, gear.

[Ally Makofsky]

Yeah.

[Stavros Halkias]

He'll have harnesses that he puts women in and that kind of thing. You know, he's gonna finally find himself at like, 46.

[Ally Makofsky]

Totally.

[Stavros Halkias]

That's what I see for you and Mo.

[Ally Makofsky]

Thank you. I like that. I like that. As long as he's still in my life, you know?

[Stavros Halkias]

Absolutely.

[Ally Makofsky]

Yeah.

[Stavros Halkias]

You guys are both in each other's lives, right? And this has just worked out. You're both happier.

[Ally Makofsky]

Yeah, yeah, yeah. We were talking about, like, the possibility of a threesome and just like, the logistics of it of. And I'm like, oh, like, yeah. It would just be so hard if it was like a woman because I would get so jealous. Like, you know, it would have to be like a Robbie Hoffman type for me to be okay with it. And then I was like, you know what?

[Stavros Halkias]

Wow, that must be real hot for him to hear. Yeah.

[Ally Makofsky]

And I was like, the only way I would be okay with us hooking up with a hot woman is if our first threesome was with another man. Because then it proves that you're, like, willing to do a threesome enough.

[Stavros Halkias]

You know, Interesting.

[Ally Makofsky]

Like me. You have to lose something to gain something.

[Stavros Halkias]

And that's a great way to look at sex with your relationship as battle.

[Ally Makofsky]

Yeah.

[Stavros Halkias]

You have to. You have to lose. And then I'LL allow you a victory after. After you've. Yeah, that's healthy.

[Ally Makofsky]

I'm a good girlfriend. Yeah.

[Stavros Halkias]

So it sounds like you won't be.

[Ally Makofsky]

Having a threesome, but then my fear was that if we bring a guy.

[Stavros Halkias]

Over now he's gay or what.

[Ally Makofsky]

No. Know that the guy and Mo are just gonna vibe out, they're gonna talk music, podcasts and they're just gonna be like kicking their feet and giggling on and once again, I'm just in the corner.

[Stavros Halkias]

Do you want to take off?

[Ally Makofsky]

Yeah, exactly. There's just no situation where I win.

[Stavros Halkias]

So you're sexually jealous of other women and socially jealous of other men.

[Ally Makofsky]

Yes.

[Stavros Halkias]

Interesting. So you would need a non binary. A non interesting, non binary person.

[Ally Makofsky]

Totally.

[Stavros Halkias]

That's maybe the only, only way you could have a threesome relationship, huh? Yeah, I'm not interested in a threesome with another guy ever. I just don't see that as. Call me old fashioned. I think it should be a man and two women. You know, that's, that's just the kind of guy I am. But for some people, for the people it works great, you know?

[Ally Makofsky]

Yeah.

[Stavros Halkias]

Some people, some men look at that as a team building experience to a lady together. Some guys are kind of gay. Some lady. I understand if you're a girl and you want to get, you know, by two guys the way I like, I want to get by two girls. If a. A straight woman wants to get, you.

[Ally Makofsky]

Know, I don't even think I would want to get filled up by two guys. But I do love like you just.

[Stavros Halkias]

Want Mo to be suffering a little. Your, your, your beloved.

[Ally Makofsky]

You know what I would love?

[Stavros Halkias]

Boyfriend.

[Ally Makofsky]

Not even sex. I would just want two guys to tell me they love me. I just want two guys to be like, you're so funn.

[Stavros Halkias]

You're funny. Yeah, I get that. That's sort of why I like the two girls set up. Cause you just feel like a king. You feel like the man. You're like fucking. Two girls are sucking me off. This is the fucking coolest thing possible. And sometimes that's what it's about. Tapping into how an idiot thinks. It's like your brain stem. It's not higher thinking. That's like nice. Four tits are better than two. It's that simple. It's really that simple. Simple. Yeah. Now I'm thinking about. I just, I get my, my dick just gets hard. I'm like, let's do some questions, Eldis. Actually, we probably should do some questions. Anything to plug here, Ally. At the halfway point, it Is January like we said?

[Ally Makofsky]

Yeah. I mean, I'm on tour. I'm all over. Maybe when this comes out, I might be in Cancun.

[Stavros Halkias]

Wow.

[Ally Makofsky]

Mexico. Doing comedy at a fish festival.

[Stavros Halkias]

Look at that. That sounds awesome.

[Ally Makofsky]

Yeah. I'm pumped.

[Stavros Halkias]

Hell, yeah.

[Ally Makofsky]

Yeah. Jam band, January 28th through 31st.

[Stavros Halkias]

Okay, nice.

[Ally Makofsky]

And then I'm doing other shows. Go to Ali McCoskey dot com. Come see me. The shows are fun.

[Stavros Halkias]

They're fun. Ellie's hilarious.

[Ally Makofsky]

Even if you don't like me, it'll be fun.

[Stavros Halkias]

Absolutely.

[Ally Makofsky]

I did a show in Rochester. 12 people in the audience. The Late Show Saturday, Carlson comedy at the Carlson. And honestly, I was like, I wish every show could just be these 12 people.

[Stavros Halkias]

They were good. They were.

[Ally Makofsky]

It was so fun. It was incredible.

[Stavros Halkias]

Yeah. That's fun. Sometimes.

[Ally Makofsky]

I had a great time.

[Stavros Halkias]

That's what's important.

[Ally Makofsky]

I'd rather have 12 good people than packed out like, annoying, horrible people. But obviously, I'd love all my shows to be sold out.

[Stavros Halkias]

Please come. Go to see Ally. She's hilarious. Play some calls. Little eldest.

[Caller 2]

Hi, Stav. Hi, eldest. I guess.

[Ally Makofsky]

Quick question.

[Caller 2]

Basically, I've been with my husband for a long time. Like, we've been together probably, like, 13 years and been married for, like, seven. And we've always had a really good sex life. But in arguments, like, over the years, he's often said that, like, I'm not, like, initiating sex enough.

[Ally Makofsky]

So.

[Caller 2]

But now I feel like when I do, he, like, he doesn't get off. Like, we have the same sex, but he doesn't finish. He doesn't come, whatever. And so I just don't, like. I feel like I don't know how to talk about it or, like, what to say because I feel like whatever I say will be, like, dismissed or whatever, but it just feels really weird and. And, yeah, I don't know if you have any thoughts or opinions on this. Thank you so much. I love your show. I'm going to see you in Boston later, so I can't wait. Okay, bye.

[Stavros Halkias]

That was a great show. You've already seen me. I remember you and your husband. You guys had rekindled your romance.

[Ally Makofsky]

Wait, so he. Does he not come ever or just when she initiates?

[Stavros Halkias]

That's what I'm curious about. It seems like from her call, it's just when she initiates. Yeah.

[Ally Makofsky]

Because maybe when he's initiating, it's like he's mentally already there, and so it's easy for him.

[Stavros Halkias]

He's already. Yeah, he's been thinking about fucking all day. Yeah.

[Ally Makofsky]

And so maybe when she's initiating it just he's like, a little bit thrown off or he needs more time to, like, get in the zone. But that's kind of. That's really cute of him. That's so girlish.

[Stavros Halkias]

I was going to say this is girl behavior because he got what he wanted and he's still not happy.

[Ally Makofsky]

Okay me. Okay, me. Vibes.

[Stavros Halkias]

But it is. I guess one thing I'll say is, is it a problem?

[Ally Makofsky]

I don't think so. I think if you've been with someone for that long and, like, he's just not finishing, I think that's okay. Unless she. Unless it's like, deeper than that. But if he is finishing when he's initiate, like when he's initiating, it just seems like maybe there's like a different way to. To build up to the moment.

[Stavros Halkias]

Sure, sure. I will say she seems exhausted. In her voice. Her voice is that of a.

[Ally Makofsky]

But that could be an alley situation where it's like, that could just be.

[Stavros Halkias]

Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah.

[Ally Makofsky]

Don't judge a caller.

[Stavros Halkias]

Yeah. You have resting, defeated voice.

[Ally Makofsky]

Yeah, yeah, I think that's just her.

[Stavros Halkias]

It's true every time you talk, like. Like if we. If we'll talk on the phone. But it's like, did you just get horrible news? Did you just hear your cat has to be put down? Why are you this sad and low energy? All right, so maybe we won't read into the voice now. I will say, yeah, maybe it's not a problem. But also, if you're initiating and things are different anyway, why don't you try a different technique to get him to buzz?

[Ally Makofsky]

Yeah, I forget what my little vagina witch lady said. Oh, yeah, yeah.

[Stavros Halkias]

I'm trying to. Are you still seeing?

[Ally Makofsky]

No, it felt weird the last I was there. Did I tell you? So her house burned down in Aladina.

[Stavros Halkias]

So to catch everybody up, Ally would go to an unlicensed medical professional who would finger her so that she would learn how to come.

[Ally Makofsky]

I was getting medically fingered by a wit in a back house in Aladina.

[Stavros Halkias]

So anyway, one of the.

[Ally Makofsky]

She would ceremony calling in all the spirits and acknowledging the land. She would do a land tribute before fingering me.

[Stavros Halkias]

See, is stolen land. Indian should be Ally. Yeah. She would burn sage and it would be like. It would scream so much. Yeah, yeah, yeah. The spirits coming out of your would.

[Ally Makofsky]

Be like, help us. But her. Her.

[Stavros Halkias]

Her back was one of the victims of the fires.

[Ally Makofsky]

Of the fires.

[Stavros Halkias]

Your fingering witch was also was one of the many victims of the. Of the Palisades fires.

[Ally Makofsky]

One of the UN stories of the fires. And so we were at some apartment motel. Yeah. We were at, like, an apartment in the Valley, and it was, like, shared walls with other apartments. I was like, I can't let go in here. Where are we? Yeah, it didn't feel good. So.

[Stavros Halkias]

So it was over.

[Ally Makofsky]

I've taken a break.

[Stavros Halkias]

You've taken a break.

[Ally Makofsky]

But, yeah. Anyway, she described, like, you know, men are very. I forget. It's like, women need a lot of time. It takes, like. It takes us, like, 45 minutes to be, like, fully aroused.

[Stavros Halkias]

Sure.

[Ally Makofsky]

And then. But our response to arousal is like, guys are. Guys are quick. Guys are, like, visually aroused.

[Stavros Halkias]

Okay.

[Ally Makofsky]

And women are more, like, situationally aroused sense to me.

[Stavros Halkias]

Yep.

[Ally Makofsky]

And so I think maybe, like, I.

[Stavros Halkias]

Could just not want to fuck it all. And if I just see tits, I'll be like, like, wait, I actually want to really badly. Like, in, like, 30 seconds.

[Ally Makofsky]

Totally.

[Stavros Halkias]

So I think instead of being in an argument, somebody shows you your tits, like, you win. Let me. Please, please, please. Instantly, I've lost all my power.

[Ally Makofsky]

I think she has to, like, really turn on the porny element. So instead of being like, do you want to have sex, just suddenly be, like, in a nurse, like, in a.

[Stavros Halkias]

Maid'S outfit, or just rub his dick.

[Ally Makofsky]

Okay.

[Stavros Halkias]

You know what I mean? Like, you know, like, I, like, like. Yeah, what is. That's a great question. What is initiating? Is it just like, okay, do you want to fuck real fat? You know what I mean? Like, do you count that as initiating? Or do you kind of do something, whether it's an outfit or it's like, suggest a little touching, maybe a little, like, you know, being hot about it. That's a good point. Like, how are you. Initiating is interesting. And. And then try. And I think, like, when you initiate it, feeling different is kind of cool too. Try something else. Lord knows I have my. You know, like. Like I. I've said before on the podcast, there was some of the years I probably fucked the most, my dick worked the least because I was, like, so addict. It was just an addiction thing. Have I done some beating off while a woman's there? I've done plenty of that.

[Ally Makofsky]

Yeah.

[Stavros Halkias]

You know what I mean? It's like, they can do some of that, like, mix it up, make them nut, let him nut in different ways. Try something different. You initiating is already enough of a departure where I'm like, let, you know, suck him. Let's jerk him off. Suck his dick.

[Ally Makofsky]

You know what?

[Stavros Halkias]

I'm saying do some. Lick some ball. Yeah. Play with his dick while you. While he. While he plays with your tits. Whatever. Do something different. It's easy to get a man to nut, is basically my point. If. If for her it's a problem that he's not nutting, try and use nutting strategy.

[Ally Makofsky]

Yeah.

[Stavros Halkias]

I think you're already being more proactive in initiative. Be proactive in getting him to bust his load.

[Ally Makofsky]

Yeah. And you know what? This is really corny, but there's a Gwyneth Paltrow, like, Netflix thing where it's, like, all about sexuality and they have different expert sexperts on.

[Stavros Halkias]

Okay.

[Ally Makofsky]

And it was kind of fun because there was just that I was like, I would have never thought to do that or it, like, seems corny to do.

[Stavros Halkias]

Yeah.

[Ally Makofsky]

But then after watching it, I was like, oh, we should, like, try one of these things, you know, so it's like maybe. Maybe get a feather and like, a feather. Fun. Or like, blindfold, you know?

[Stavros Halkias]

Yeah. Some classics.

[Ally Makofsky]

Switch it up and.

[Stavros Halkias]

Exactly. Especially if you're in a rut, it takes so little to make it feel fresh.

[Ally Makofsky]

Yeah.

[Stavros Halkias]

You know what I mean? So, yeah, get is good that you're doing this. Turn up the creativity just one more notch, and I feel like your problem might already be solved, because it sounds like this is more your problem than his. And she's like, can we talk about it? I guess you could talk about it. You could just say, like, I notice every time I initiate because basically what you've done, you listen to some feedback and you change the way you behave. That's important. You've done what you need to do. So he opened up the dialogue. You can keep it going. You're like, hey, is there something you want to try whenever I initiate?

[Ally Makofsky]

Yeah.

[Stavros Halkias]

And then you might even have the answer. So keep at it, sister. We believe in you.

[Ally Makofsky]

Yeah.

[Stavros Halkias]

What else we got? Eldis.

[Caller 1]

Hey, Savi. Hey, eldest. I'm calling today to get some advice on an estranged parent situation. So for context, I didn't know who my real dad was for the first 21 years of my life. I'm 24 now, and he contacted me about three years ago, and we talked over the phone and met in person, everything like that. There's no doubt that he is my dad. We look almost identical.

[Stavros Halkias]

Damn.

[Caller 1]

But for the first two years of this kind of like, on again, off again relationship, he was a pretty bad alcoholic. And so every time I talked to him, he was drunk. But within the last year, he has gotten sober, and we did try Kind of rekindling the relationship, but it got to be kind of overwhelming for me. We were seeing each other on kind of a weekly basis, and he started kind of calling me almost every single day, and that would usually take up words to about an hour.

[Stavros Halkias]

Insane.

[Caller 1]

But this guy, I, I didn't return his last two phone calls, and that was about six, seven months ago. And he hasn't tried reaching out since. And I don't know, I, I, I, I've started to feel kind of a guilt and not reaching out because I don't necessarily even know how much I'd want to have a relationship with them. He seems like an okay guy, just kind of his enemy. But I know for him there's more of a sense of urgency because he's in his mid-60s, he was a pretty bad alcoholic for the past decade, and he's, you know, had a heart attack and some health scares, and he squandered another relationship with a strange child, his daughter. And I've talked to her, doesn't really want anything to do with him.

[Stavros Halkias]

The fact that he's eligible to squander multiple estranged children tells you a little bit about the guy, but is there more elders?

[Caller 1]

Yeah, I don't know. It's just been, it's been very funky and, and should I set my feelings aside and try and have a relationship with him, even if it doesn't necessarily feel authentic, but just, you know, for his own sake towards maybe the end of his life? Or should I just be blunt and, you know, say, like, hey, you're essentially a stranger to me. The father ship, son is pretty much sailed old, you know, but, yeah. Any advice that y' all have on, you know, how you navigate kind of a funky situation like this would be greatly appreciated. Love the show. Y' all take care. Bye.

[Stavros Halkias]

Bye. Nice. Great guy this guy is.

[Ally Makofsky]

I have lots of thoughts, please. So I think, first of all, he's biologically, he's your dad, but he wasn't in your life, so you don't owe him anything. However, if you do, if you genuinely feel like you want to have a relationship with him, you are more than entitled. But if you only feel like you have to do that because you kind of, like, set it up where you're meeting with him weekly, and now you feel guilty that you're not, you don't need to feel guilty about that.

[Stavros Halkias]

No guilt.

[Ally Makofsky]

I think, especially with an alcoholic. If you do want to continue to have a relationship, I think start off with monthly, a monthly call, and make sure the call is before, like 4:00pm, you know, before he starts getting sauce.

[Stavros Halkias]

Yeah, yeah.

[Ally Makofsky]

And then you can kind of gauge based on that how you're feeling.

[Stavros Halkias]

Yeah, I mean, I. You hit it on the head with a lot of the stuff. What I was thinking too is like, you owe this person absolutely nothing.

[Ally Makofsky]

Yeah.

[Stavros Halkias]

I mean, he literally abandoned you as a baby. Like, I can't think of a more. More this guy. You don't owe a person anything. Set up. Then my estranged father finally started feeling some guilt for the heinous thing he did to me as a baby. And now he desperately wants to reconnect. But also not that bad because you missed two calls and then he just stopped.

[Ally Makofsky]

Yeah.

[Stavros Halkias]

Clearly whatever you were doing was too unhealthy. I mean, you. She. He didn't say he called him. He said he saw him once a week, which is like, I don't see my. In my mid. And here's the other thing. You're in a period of your life where you don't really see your like mid twenties. Might be the time you least see your family. Like when I was from like 20, you know, 4 to like 30, I saw my parents the least because I was like, I'm on my. I have my own shit to do. I'm fake. That's when you're figuring out your life. I probably overdid it. Like I was dealing with my. I was dealing with family issues and I was like, I don't want to see these people right now. I need to figure out my own and shit. You are you. What happened was you were on the regular path of a fucking person and you were about to go into a very independent like phase of your life and then some fucking. Truly a stranger more for his benefit than yours. Clearly this is selfish on his part, reached out to you and like Ali said, the amount of relationship you want to have with him is completely your choice. If what you're saying is I don't actually want to see this guy at all, you're totally fine and you're like, but I feel bad. His other kid doesn't. It's like, that's his fault. He could have been in your life. He could have left but sent some money back, sent a card every once in a while. You're saying you had a non existent relationship with him and if he fucked things up with you, that's not your fault at all. And I, and I think particularly at this point in your life, if you feel the need to just be completely not talk to him at all. I don't even think you owe him, like, closure or anything. This is the rare time I'll say, like, this person left you as a fucking baby bro. You don't have to feel bad cuz you don't facetime him once a week as a 25 year old just cuz he's had a heart attack or whatever. I think he was clearly using you in an unhealthy way, talking to you to meeting up once a week, like, especially after he got sober. Reaching out to you while he's still drunk is kind of a weird move too.

[Ally Makofsky]

Yeah.

[Stavros Halkias]

Like, it'd be one thing if he was like, hey, I got my life together. I'm ready to have a relationship with you. I'm so, so fucking sorry. Whatever. And now I want to be here for as much as you need. I don't get the vibe that that's what. That's how he approached it. I think he was like, well, hey, son, I love. You know, maybe I'm projecting. I'm reading too much into it. But the answer is you feel no guilt. You. You completely decide how this goes. And. And that's pretty much it. I don't think this person needs to be in your life. Only he's only in your life if it's additive to you. If you feel like it's a burden, cut him. You can cut him completely out. And you're totally within your rights to.

[Ally Makofsky]

Do that and the responsibility is like fully on him. So it really is like up to him to call you if, you know, you don't have any ability to, like, make an effort to have a relationship unless you want to. But also you can pull kind of a reverse uno situation where maybe you get really close to him and then you go, oh, I'm gonna go get cigarettes. And then you just block.

[Stavros Halkias]

Wait right here, Pop.

[Ally Makofsky]

Yeah, I'll be right back.

[Stavros Halkias]

I'll be right back. And then you abandon him. I love that idea. Yeah. And by the way, you can also decide the exact relationship you want and be like, here are my terms. Yeah, call me once a month. I'll see you in person twice a year. That's as much as I'm interested in. And if he's like, well, what kind of. You're like, all right, we'll fucking see you.

[Ally Makofsky]

Yeah.

[Stavros Halkias]

Yeah. This can't be a drain on you, particularly at this point in your life. And you might. You might get older and you might decide you might mellow out. Whatever he might be, he might feel like less of a burden. And this, this can all Evolve. The important thing is it's up to you. That's the thing to completely remember. This is totally up to. To you. Any right that he had to be an equal participant in your relationship? He gave up when he just completely walked down you for the first 21 years of your life. So, yeah, whatever. Fuck him. Next question. Elvis.

[Caller 2]

Hey, Stav. Elvis and esteemed guest.

[Caller 1]

I got a quick cute one for you.

[Stavros Halkias]

So I work as an. As an H VAC technician, so I'm in and out of people's houses and.

[Caller 1]

Businesses all day long.

[Stavros Halkias]

Shut up. No, go ahead. Oh, I fucking. I'm in and out of people's houses. Who cares? No, go ahead. And I've been trying to get back into the.

[Caller 1]

The dating scene a little more now.

[Stavros Halkias]

That I kind of feel like I'm.

[Caller 1]

Starting to get my. Together a little bit.

[Caller 2]

Anyway, my.

[Caller 1]

My question for you is one of ethics.

[Stavros Halkias]

Am I allowed to hide in the vent of a hot woman's house and pretend make noise, pretend somebody was robbing her and that I fought him off and hope that she sees me as her hero and lets me fuck? No, Go ahead, Eldis.

[Caller 1]

Typically, the ethics of hitting on a woman in her own home or in her workplace.

[Stavros Halkias]

Come on, man. You know, the answer to this. In her own home has been, like.

[Caller 1]

Off limits, you know, Unless it's like.

[Stavros Halkias]

Sure. Unless she comes out in the.

[Caller 1]

The nightgown, you know, and, like, it would have to be screamingly in your face obvious.

[Stavros Halkias]

And then I feel like there's a.

[Caller 1]

Little bit more leeway on the. On the business end in a. In a workplace. I would love to hear your thoughts, though.

[Stavros Halkias]

This guy's awesome. Love the show. This guy's hilarious. The general rule is like, no, but general rules are also, like, there's always exceptions. But even if it's. What I would say is all right. He said he's like an. What is he, like, H vac. H vac. Yeah. So look, if you have some building that you go for monthly maintenance and you've struck up over a long period of time, you have struck up a rapport with some lady that works there, and she kind of puts a little hint out of, like, oh, you ever been to this place? It's so, like, you can take a really, really calculated risk maybe if you have some kind of, like, general rapport with someone. And even that's a. When. What you're risking, by the way, is it is incredibly unprofessional is my. Is the thing. It's like. But we all know how humanity is messy. Attraction is messy. Whatever people have, definitely that's happened before. If you have it like that, are you swagged the fuck out to that degree? I don't know. Because the answer is the blanket answer. And on paper I'm saying no.

[Ally Makofsky]

Yeah.

[Stavros Halkias]

You don't hit on a woman in her home. Obviously you don't hit on her. Especially if it's like you and her and you're a maintenance guy. You know how fucking weird that is? It's just you and her in her house and she's like trusting you to fix something and you hit on. That's. And you. And you even bring the idea of like assault in her own home into her head. That's fucking insane. I agree. It's, I guess, slightly better at the workplace, but that's also incredibly unprofessional. You're doing your job. Like, what you're risking is your professionalism and on top of being a fucking creep. So I would say the blanket advice is no. And then like, I guess like I said, the only scenario I could see that it's even sort of okay is like, you've been servicing this place for a year. Each month this woman makes it a point to talk to. You know what I mean? But even then, I just can't see this being a good idea. And it's like, no. And look for. Here's the problem. The person this would work out for is someone who's like, desperately doesn't want to do this. Do you know what I mean? The guy who, who actually ends up going on a date with someone is the guy who's like, you know, no, thank you. You know what I mean? Like, who's. The fact that you're thinking about this means it will never work. Actually, the more I batted around, that's my answer. You want this so bad that there's no way. It's not a bad idea and it's not going to be creepy if you do it. So. Yes, no, I'm sorry, I talked a long time. What do you say?

[Ally Makofsky]

No, I think that's all super valid. I completely agree. I think, yeah, like, like being the woman in the situation. And like. Well, there's. There's another part to it. What do you look like?

[Stavros Halkias]

Right. How hot are you?

[Ally Makofsky]

Let's be honest assessment. Do you look.

[Stavros Halkias]

Let's be honest about.

[Ally Makofsky]

Yeah, you know, do you look like you were working H Vac in like a Lifetime movie?

[Stavros Halkias]

Right, right, right, right, right, right, right, right.

[Ally Makofsky]

Because I do think if you are good looking, of course the Odds are more in your favor.

[Stavros Halkias]

Good looking, blue collar guy. I could see a specific fantasy existing for certain women. Sure.

[Ally Makofsky]

Totally.

[Stavros Halkias]

Yes.

[Ally Makofsky]

But I think, yeah, in general, I think you're right. I, I do think the tactic and sorry to sound like a perv, but I, I do think a tactic could even be to be so disinterested in the woman that it does end up working out for you even if it's not genuine to who you are. But I also think, yeah, keep it. Don't. Don't make any moves because then if I'm the woman, I'm like, ew. And now he knows where I live and now I have to be nice to him so he doesn't murder or rape me. And like, you know, and that's the other thing.

[Stavros Halkias]

Are the signs you're reading? Fear.

[Ally Makofsky]

But I think like, if you are getting like such a strong sense that someone is into you and you're like, undoubtedly this woman is so into me, then I think just giving them the option to be like, oh, and by the way, like on your business card, just be like, here's my personal number.

[Stavros Halkias]

Anything. Yeah, if you ever need.

[Ally Makofsky]

That way it's not like overtly like if you want to get dicked down, but like, and here's my personal number.

[Stavros Halkias]

Of course.

[Ally Makofsky]

There you go. Moving on by.

[Stavros Halkias]

Yes, I think the only again, it'll never work for you because you want it. And it's not like, because he didn't say, there's this lady at this fucking accounting firm and she's so cute and she's always.

[Ally Makofsky]

It's just women in general.

[Stavros Halkias]

He's just like, maybe someday a woman want to fuck me at the job. And it's like, nah, that's if you're worried about that. But yes, I think it's the, the best case is just look outside of that. This doesn't seem to. The fact that this is just a purely theoretical question means the answer is no. Yeah, if there was some real, like, here's the situation, can I do this? Then it's different. But yeah, good point about the. Are they being nice to you because they don't want you to kill them?

[Ally Makofsky]

Yeah, well, because then too it's like if, if I'm the woman of the home and you're like being a fucking creep. You know what? This could be a good business strategy because I would never want to fire you because you know where I. And you're a pervert. So now it's like, great. He has to come every single month.

[Stavros Halkias]

Yeah, yeah, yeah. You're like, I actually don't want air conditioning anymore. Thanks.

[Ally Makofsky]

Yeah.

[Stavros Halkias]

All right. How about a nice one to take us home? Eldis. Okay.

[Ally Makofsky]

I have to tell you, I was just looking on ebay where I go for all kinds of things I love. And there it was.

[Stavros Halkias]

That hologram trading card. One of the rarest electronics. Last one I needed for my set. Shiny like the designer handbag of my dreams.

[Ally Makofsky]

One of a kind.

[Stavros Halkias]

Ebay had it.

[Ally Makofsky]

And now everyone's asking, ooh, where'd you.

[Stavros Halkias]

Get your windshield wipers? Ebay has all the parts that fit my car. No more annoying, just beautiful. Millions of finds, each with a story. EBay, things people love.

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[Caller 2]

Hi. Stavi Eldis and guest. Huge fan of the show. First time caller. This is a super random question, and I don't really know if it's a problem or not, but I just would like some advice from a guy who loves fake tits. So I've been in a relationship for about eight or nine months now. Love my boyfriend so much.

[Stavros Halkias]

Beautiful.

[Caller 2]

Our relationship is really awesome. And everything is great. Great. Except the one thing is that he is a hitman, which I have never dated anyone who has been like a boob guy because I have, like, no boobs, unfortunately. They're. They're just small.

[Stavros Halkias]

Tomatoes. At her.

[Ally Makofsky]

You.

[Stavros Halkias]

You.

[Ally Makofsky]

Are you calling.

[Stavros Halkias]

You're wasting our data.

[Ally Makofsky]

They're.

[Caller 2]

They're just small. I. They're perfectly nice. They're just small. I have a nice. Badass, but nice. It just. It all went there. So.

[Stavros Halkias]

Nothing wrong with that.

[Caller 2]

I just. I don't really know how to navigate this because I know that all his exes have had big boobs. And I just don't know how to not feel, like, a little bit insecure. And I don't know if that's something that I should, like, bring up with him or if I should keep that to my family. And I don't know. How do you feel about.

[Stavros Halkias]

This is interesting as a guy who.

[Caller 2]

Like, generally seems to like big ones. Yeah. I don't know.

[Stavros Halkias]

I've been up against this.

[Caller 2]

I just would like some advice. But that I am insecure. But also I know that he loves me. So I Just don't really know what to do. Yeah. Thank you so much. Love the show. Bye.

[Stavros Halkias]

Well, I do hate that she's going through this.

[Ally Makofsky]

Yeah.

[Stavros Halkias]

But I will say this is the closest I think a woman can come to feeling what it's like to have a little ass dick and know that somebody you slept with, like, fuck, like, the last guy she was with had a huge dick or something. You know what I mean? Even though she, like, there is something in the back of your head where you will feel inadequate a little bit. Even though it's stupid. Right. It's the classic. It's become hack at this point where people say, boyfriend, dick, or you've got the perfect. Like, that idea has been around now probably like five, ten years in comedy. But it is a real thing where you don't want to hear, you know, oh, another hack thing, like, from memes, like, oh, the big ones hurt. You know what I mean? Like, I love you.

[Ally Makofsky]

But it is true.

[Stavros Halkias]

Yeah, but. And I do know, and that is true, I do know women who swear and I believe them, that they like a little ass penis. But so for you, though, though, speaking from experience here, I think.

[Ally Makofsky]

I mean, I don't think guys would put up with something they didn't like. I feel like guys. Guys are very blessed in the sense that they only for the most part do what they want to do. Like, guys don't have the woman thing of, like, well, I don't want to upset anyone. Like, I'll do it even though I don't want to. Guys are very much like, I'm not interested. I don't want this.

[Stavros Halkias]

Plenty of cowards will, sure. But I think on a sexual level.

[Ally Makofsky]

8 months, 9 months, girlfriend, boyfriend, if he really did not like you. Yeah, yeah, your little ass titties. He wouldn't be with your little ass titties.

[Stavros Halkias]

Yes, I agree with you. And I also think, like, yeah, okay, I talk about how much I love big ass titties. I also love little titties. Yeah, that's the thing. In fact, you know, I love. I have no. I like girls with little. I like, you know, all types of different gals. But I've had that problem. Problem where I've, like, met someone and like, or so, like, I'll be at a show or somebody be like, you know, I was gonna send you nudes, but I know you don't like little tits. And I was like, what? I would have fucked you, lady. And she's like. She's like, you know, before I met my boyfriend, I really wanted to go me, but I have little. And it's like, that is a weird thing where women have said that to me. It's like, first of all, you think it's like you're a hot woman who's like self conscious because your tits are small, but you're hot as shit. It's like, you're beautiful, he likes you, he loves you.

[Ally Makofsky]

He also wasn't under the impression when you first met that you had big tits.

[Stavros Halkias]

Right. Right. You didn't sneak your little tits onto him. But yes, I think this is a complete like. And I get it, people are always going to be worried about their body. Like I said, I've had that worry of like my too small. You know what I mean? Like, if my. Like, it's funny because it's never been about my body. Even though I've been fat my whole life, I've never been like, am I too fat to fuck this woman? It's just, I was like, is my little ass dick too small? It's regular, by the way. Everybody relax. It's not that fucking small, but you're fine. And I think this is just like, it's just body image stuff. It's just like women are told their bodies are bad in a hundred different ways.

[Ally Makofsky]

Yeah. I also think it's normal pattern recognition. I think with the X's, if you're like, okay, big tits, big tits, big tits. I think if anything, like, look at it as a sign of like, he's done with that. Like, he might still like them, which is fine. But like, he's had enough and he wants to move on to your tiny little tits and your big heart.

[Stavros Halkias]

Yes, exactly. And not even he's done with that. But it's like your relationship transcends those things.

[Ally Makofsky]

Yeah.

[Stavros Halkias]

Right. Because it's like, not to be corny, but that's the truth of. There are different relationships where it's like, yes, sometimes it's about pure physical attraction. Attraction. And if you don't, I think people who have a real type, no matter what, are kind of sociopaths who are like, I don't. Anybody who doesn't look like this, it's like, well, then you're not looking for a person.

[Ally Makofsky]

Yeah.

[Stavros Halkias]

You want to a thing.

[Ally Makofsky]

You want an object.

[Stavros Halkias]

Yes. And so I think real relationships, oftentimes people end up with people they never would have thought.

[Ally Makofsky]

Yeah.

[Stavros Halkias]

Because the attraction is so much. It exists on a. In a higher plane plane than pure physical attraction. So I would see this actually as a good thing, as a sign of an even more powerful connection.

[Ally Makofsky]

Yeah. And I think like as a girl who's like kind of crazy and jealous like yeah. I think the more you can just be confident in yourself and not bring it up.

[Stavros Halkias]

Yeah. That you're like mo is so much.

[Ally Makofsky]

Yeah. Yeah.

[Stavros Halkias]

It's the nicest, most mild mannered would never cheat guy I've ever met in my life.

[Ally Makofsky]

You never know. You never know. I'll be home tomorrow, babe. Make sure the house is clean.

[Stavros Halkias]

You guys don't even.

[Ally Makofsky]

I'm so crazy. Like when I get home after I've been gone for a while I'll like look in the shower to see if any of the products are moved slightly.

[Stavros Halkias]

You put markers on all the girls body wash. Bathing his with my Saint Ives or whatever the.

[Ally Makofsky]

But yeah, I think try not to be like me and just be chill.

[Stavros Halkias]

And don't be like Ally.

[Ally Makofsky]

Know that you're cool with your little boobs and that's fun and cute.

[Stavros Halkias]

No, you're doing great. You're really overthinking this. I promise. But good luck to you. I think you're going to do great, Ally. Thank you. We look forward to more updates. I can't wait to hear how LaRazona goes. Oh yeah, I, I, I, you know, keep us a breast if you and the finger witch ever, you know, rekindle. Rekindle. Yeah. If she ever gets a standalone property to finger women in, let us know. And yeah, go see Ally live. You know we're on tour right now probably. Damn bus tour started.

[Ally Makofsky]

I want to go back.

[Stavros Halkias]

We'll, we'll bring it back.

[Ally Makofsky]

Please.

[Stavros Halkias]

We'll bring it back for a week. This is, this tour is going to be a little weirder. It's not the whole run but we'll bring you back actually. We'll definitely bring back on some. And we have some weird casino gigs that are. Yeah, so we'll bring it, we'll bring in a couple of those. All right, that's gonna do it for us guys. Thank you and we will talk to you next week. Bye bye. Your new home is now ready. Dr. Horton, America's builder has new homes.

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[Stavros Halkias]

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[Ally Makofsky]

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[Stavros Halkias]

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[Stavros Halkias]

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[Stavros Halkias]

Grab a warm blanket and snuggle up with a purple box of my mochi ice cream today. It's the perfect wintertime treat.