#176 - Zach Cherry

Summary

STAVVY’S WORLD #176: ZACH CHERRY (April 13, 2026)

SUMMARY

Main Theme & Episode Overview

In this lively, meandering episode of Stavvy’s World, comedian Stavros Halkias welcomes actor and comedian Zach Cherry (Severance, You, Crashing) for a hilarious, wide-ranging hang in classic “immigrant living room” style. The duo riff on everything from ethnic neighborhood life and fatness to improv, bagels, cults, and the logic of pet ownership, plus they field audience problems with their signature mix of empathy and irreverence. The episode is packed with banter about fame, kitchen appliances, body image, and even CPAPs, all while maintaining a laid-back, self-deprecating vibe.

Episode Structure

1. Classic Pod Vibes in “the Studio” (Starts ~01:05)

   • Stavros explains why the episode is recorded in a friend's Queens apartment, referencing shady past landlords and “bread crumbs” about scandalous proclivities (“Was he in a dossier? Was he in a high-profile file?” – 01:33, Stavros).
   • Both riff on immigrant household life, neighborhood lore, ethnic arguments in Queens, and the electronics stores “Best Buy can’t kill” (03:02).

2. Dad Tech and Generational Differences (03:45–07:06)

   • Funny stories about their tech-inept fathers: Stav's dad has never used a computer, but does send a charmingly broken English “Mr. Stavo, happy birthday” text, complete with many failed thumbs-up attempts (06:16).
   • Zach: “My dad’s become one of those guys. He goes, ‘you know, AI is starting to get revenge on people.’” (04:49)

3. Fat Years, Celebrity Fatness & Lifespan Discourse (~07:15–13:16)

   • Extended riffing about “fat years,” the psychological math of aging as a fat guy versus “dog years,” and comparing notes on aging celebrities (“For a fat 55 year old, he’s doing great.” – 07:36, Stav).
   • Discussion of famous “fat” icons (Goodman, Gandolfini, Penn Jillette). Height and BMI ratios matter: “He said he was 350 and I was like I was 350, but he’s 6’2” and I’m 5’. Exactly.” (24:08)
   • Marginalization of “famous fat people” in showbiz: “Famous fat people are sort of the lowest class of famous person. We are sort of in the caste system of fame.” (12:34, Stav)

4. Food, Kitchen Setups & Theoretical Podcast Beef (17:55–23:57)

   • Zach's “temperamental” oven (“Some months it needs to preheat for four or five hours.” – 18:15), cluttered counter politics, and a detailed rundown of kitchen gadget priorities.
   • Arguments for air fryers and rice cookers; lampooning the “fat guy food podcast” space with a running gag about starting a Doughboys ripoff because “we deserve it” (“If me and you started a food podcast, Mitch would kill himself. He would absolutely steamroll those pussies.” – 22:52, Stav).
   • Culinary pleasure competitions: “Best single bite tournament,” bagel shop regional rankings, and the heartbreak of discovering a bad bagel spot after moving neighborhoods.

5. Growing Up: Religion, Ethnicity, and Early Comedy (24:41–47:00)

   • Religious background chatter: “Vague generic Christianity... just as vague as possible.” (24:47, Zach)
   • Zach details his “Central American” (actually midwestern/southern) heritage and identity flexibility: “Every single ethnicity has approached me and said, yeah, I think you are my cousin.” (25:37, Zach).
   • Plenty about growing up in Jersey, going to private school in Princeton, and being an improv “Messi” since the age of eight (“I was an advanced improviser. Although I think I was mostly just like repeating stuff I heard on The Simpsons.” – 39:46).

6. Fame, Improv Beef, and Artistic Insecurity (47:00–53:00)

   • Comparing the drama-queen competitiveness of improv and stand-up scenes (“Improv people pretend to be friends and would stab each other in the back.” – 48:25, Stav).
   • Jokingly defending improv as “the most beautiful art form,” drawing the perfect parallel: “Would you pay to watch people do layup lines?” (49:48, Stav).
   • On artsy bombings: “When I bomb, I’m like, this is better than doing good.... Killing is nothing. Killing is old hat.” (52:16, Zach)

Listener Calls & Advice Segment

1. Should I Pay For My Partner’s Dog’s Vet Bills? (58:00–69:23)

   • A woman in a 9-year relationship (not married, has a kid) is suddenly asked by her boyfriend—who makes three times her income—to go halves on his dog’s medical bills.
   • “This to me feels like a really good opportunity to take stock of your relationship because what you’re describing makes no sense to me.” (64:27, Stav)
   • Both hosts stress: partner’s ask is weird, especially given his higher salary and her own childcare responsibilities. Also: “If a dog needs surgery, the dog is dead. As far as I’m concerned.” (66:43, Stav)
   • Some solid comic suggestions: Make the kid chip in (“Skills-based jobs is really where we’re heading. Get into a vet tech program now.” – 67:22, Zach)

2. Keeping the “Twisted Ass Up” Energy—Dating Insecurity: My Partner Used to Date a Porn Star! (70:19–83:31)

   • A woman feels insecure after learning her boyfriend used to date a “real” porn star with a completely different body type (“professional, Roger Federer-level sex”).
   • Zach’s take: “You gotta take this as a win. Even if you’re gonna think about it in your own terms, you’re who he’s choosing now.” (74:31)
   • Stav: “He dated like… you just happen to know about the person he dated that’s going to make you insecure. There’s people you’ve dated that would probably make him insecure.”
   • Big theme: You’re not “competing” with a past partner—he’s with you now for a reason. Maybe let your boyfriend know you’re feeling insecure, see how he responds.
   • “You’re in the same league as a porn star—that’s a W!” (74:56, Stav)
   • Bonus: Comic tangent about titty sizes, big ass being beautiful, and a brief detour into Zach’s relationship origin story.

3. CPAP Adaptation Advice for Fat Dudes (86:35–95:31)

   • Male caller can’t handle his full-face CPAP; listeners are revealed as CPAP veterans.
   • Both recommend: Don’t let doctors push you into a mask you can’t tolerate, demand a nasal-only type even if you’ve got a beard, and “be your own advocate.”
   • “This is the one thing I like, evangelize about because it legit changed my life.” (92:34, Zach)
   • “You need to advocate for yourself and look at it as them failing you, not you unable to adapt.” (91:35, Stav)
   • “You don’t want to think of yourself as a guy who’s so fat he needs a device to survive sleep… but unfortunately you are.” (92:44, Stav)

4. Roommate Hummus Dilemma (98:28–109:23)

   • Jazz musician’s roommate constantly lets his paid-for gig hummus rot in the fridge. Is it morally/legally right to eat it before it spoils?
   • Logical dissection: It's “his payment”—he can do as he pleases. But as a roommate it’s wasteful and wrong to let food rot.
   • Solution: Gradually eat the hummus, swap it for inferior hummus in the original container as needed, aim for “common law hummus” rights.
   • “This is a crime, a moral crime, to let good hummus go to waste.” (108:31, Stav)

5. Update: “BBL With Settlement Money” Callback (110:10–116:20)

   • Caller from a previous episode (boyfriend wanted to use lawsuit cash for a BBL in Brazil) follows up: they both got gym memberships instead, but she invested the settlement in defense stocks (“Lockheed Martin, Boeing, and Raytheon”) after war news.
   • “Get him a BBL instead of giving money to Raytheon.” (115:50, Stav)
   • Comic struggle with the ethical dilemmas of defense investment, body image, and America’s war machine—“You do whatever you want to do. I would, if it were up to me, invest in something else. But whatever.” (114:20, Stav)

Notable Quotes & Memorable Moments

• Stav’s summary of fat celebrity status: “Famous fat people are sort of the lowest class of famous person. We are sort of in the caste system of fame.” (12:34)
• Zach on his kitchen: “In front of the Zojirushi, we’ve got my dog’s bully sticks. … That’s a crazy prime spot for the dog’s bully sticks.” (20:24)
• On improv: “Would you pay to watch people do layup lines? … That’s what improv is.” (49:48, Stav + Zach)
• “Improv is a disease that you have to do to get it out of your system. … It’s like a half-vampire drinking dead raccoons.” (40:45, Stav)
• Epic DP/counterfeit hummus solution: “Steal the hummus and replace it with sabra. … Or just always have a sabra in the back of the fridge or something even shittier than that.” (107:12, Stav)
• On CPAP life: “You don’t want to think of yourself as a guy who’s so fat he needs a device to survive sleep… but unfortunately you are.” (92:44, Stav)
• Need for “Fat House” mentorship: “We want little fat chicks to help… we’re gonna be your fat mentors, because being fat crosses gender, crosses ethnicity—it’s the one thing…” (117:49, Stav)

Timestamps for Key Segments

• 01:05 – Recording in a friend's (Greek) apartment; landlord scandal
• 03:45 – Technophobic dads, dad AI paranoia, texting mishaps
• 07:15 – Fat years and aging math, Goodman/Gandolfini, fat celeb status riff
• 13:39 – Realizing celebs called “fat” were actually just regular-sized men
• 18:11 – Zach’s broken oven & appliance hierarchy
• 21:16 – Kitchen gadgets run-down, Doughboys podcast beef
• 24:41 – Childhood religion, Jersey upbringing, “Central American” confusion
• 31:33 – Bagel rankings and neighborhood heartbreak
• 39:00 – Improv prodigy origin (“improv Messi”)
• 47:00 – Improv vs. stand-up beef, the “art” of bombing
• 58:00 – CALL 1: Who pays for the vet bills? (Extensive analysis)
• 70:19 – CALL 2: Dating a guy whose ex is a porn star; handling insecurity
• 86:35 – CALL 3: CPAP user problems, adaptation advice
• 98:28 – CALL 4: Roommate letting hummus go bad; the ethics of food theft
• 110:10 – Update Call: BBL boyfriend/defense contractor stock investments
• 117:49 – “Fat House” mentorship program & the Bodhi tribe (fat worshippers)

Tone and Final Thoughts

The entire show is shot through with the sleepy, self-deprecating, deeply ethnic and bodily-aware humor that defines Stavros’s world. Zach Cherry keeps pace with dry wit and vulnerable admissions about anxiety, improv, and hermit life. Advice is always thoughtful, with a comic twist and a willingness to interrogate the “logic” of American relationships, dog culture, and food waste.

This is a hangout podcast at its best: full of relatable gripes, tangent-heavy riffs, and a clear, unstuffy camaraderie between the hosts. Don’t approach Zach on the street (keep it brief if you must), and remember: never let good hummus go to waste.

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Want more?

• Patreon, Fat House mentoring, and the ongoing search for “the world’s dominant fat tribe” are sprinkled throughout the episode.
• Do not plug Zach’s shows—he doesn’t want to be found ("We're doing a reverse plug") (53:24).

GUEST

• Zach Cherry: Severance, You, Crashing, and Voice in the Fat Illuminati.

HOST

• Stavros Halkias: Comedian, advice-giver, and first-generation Greek podcaster.

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For a deep, funny, and vibe-filled pod about fat years, showbiz, family, and modern anxieties, this is Stavvy’s World at its best.

Transcript

[Morgan Stewart]

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[Eldest (Stavi)]

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[Zach Cherry]

But I got to see the original.

[Eldest (Stavi)]

Dude, you got the real.

[Zach Cherry]

The last one I was in was too nice.

[Eldest (Stavi)]

Too nice. Fucked up. Yeah. And there's things that we. We're deciding how public we're going to be about what was going on with the Last Place. But something. It's a little. That's a little breadcrumb for the people. The Last Place. Let's just say my landlord had some interesting developments come out about his proclus. Certain of his proclivities.

[Zach Cherry]

Some of his might have been in a.

[Eldest (Stavi)]

Some grouping of files. Yes. We don't know. We can't really say. Was it. Was he in a dossier? Was he in a high profile file?

[Zach Cherry]

Certain very of search engines.

[Eldest (Stavi)]

Sure. Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. Yes. There's some interesting stuff going on. Yes, I did live in a cursed place for six months.

[Zach Cherry]

It was nice.

[Eldest (Stavi)]

It was nice but there was something kind of sinister. This is real more appropriate to give everyone and the people at home don't even know this but since we moved. Since I moved friend of the show straight George has now is now living in this. Is living in this apartment. But basically I still kept the two back bedrooms as a backup studio. So for six months he got a great deal. We rent half the apartment but for one week we are here like seven hours a day. And yeah you got. There's. There's no more accurate version of a Greek podcast than one that happens in Your, like, friend's house. That's an immigrant living room. Yes, yes, yes, yes.

[Zach Cherry]

Just having a Sunday.

[Eldest (Stavi)]

Of course. We're in Queens. We're in Queens. You have eight ethnicities arguing on the sidewalk as you walk.

[Zach Cherry]

I did have a beautiful journey and.

[Eldest (Stavi)]

Yeah, yeah.

[Zach Cherry]

Saw a child sort of like playing inside of an old fax machine.

[Eldest (Stavi)]

Yeah, dude.

[Zach Cherry]

Beautiful stuff.

[Eldest (Stavi)]

That's what I love about Queens, dude. Still have, like. There's still, like, shops here. Like, if you go on Steinway or whatever, there's shops that, like, sell fax machines. Copiers elect. They're like. There's like an electronic store that's, like, in every other part of the world. Best Buy. Not just Amazon. Best Buy put them out of business. Best Buy. That. That can't encroach here, dude. We have ethnicities that don't. Don't understand computers in this neighborhood. Dud.

[Zach Cherry]

Best buy is still 15 years away.

[Eldest (Stavi)]

It's fancy. It's like, if you show to, like, you know, Balkan, immigrant. Like, we have. We have restaurants here that's like a part of the Serbian civil war that we don't even know about. You know what I mean? Like, there's a secret countries here. And those people, like, if you took my dad. If you showed my. If my dad. I would actually love to see my dad try and order something from Amazon and see if he could figure it out. I don't know that he would know how to put his address.

[Zach Cherry]

He's not even that online, dude.

[Eldest (Stavi)]

He does. I don't think he's ever. Honestly, I don't think my father's ever used a computer.

[Zach Cherry]

That's what my dad is now. Every day tells me about AI really. My dad's become one of those guys. He goes, you know, they're starting to get revenge on people.

[Eldest (Stavi)]

I swear to God, every time I see your dad's tracking, he's like.

[Zach Cherry]

He's like, yeah, this one got really mad at the guy who created him.

[Eldest (Stavi)]

He's trying to get.

[Zach Cherry]

And I'm like, I don't know. I don't follow it as much as you. So you may know.

[Eldest (Stavi)]

I love that. It's. The idea is like, it's in the process of revenge. Yes. We're just like. Like, if he knows that, why doesn't he just unplug the robot?

[Zach Cherry]

Because it's doing surreptitious things.

[Eldest (Stavi)]

Of course. Of course. And the owner doesn't know. But somehow your father found out.

[Zach Cherry]

It reached out to my dad and said, sir, you're going to want to

[Eldest (Stavi)]

Stay on top of this. Let your son know. Let your son know. Let him. Let him spread it out through. Indirectly through podcasting.

[Zach Cherry]

And I am.

[Eldest (Stavi)]

And you are. Dude, AI is starting to get revenge. Was your, like. Is your dad. Was your dad ever like a.

[Zach Cherry]

How.

[Eldest (Stavi)]

How technological? How. What kind of a technological home did you come from? Were you guys early adopters?

[Zach Cherry]

He had a Nintendo.

[Eldest (Stavi)]

Okay.

[Zach Cherry]

Like, he would play Mario when I was, like, super young.

[Eldest (Stavi)]

Oh, respect.

[Zach Cherry]

Then he didn't touch technology for 50 years.

[Eldest (Stavi)]

Okay. Okay.

[Zach Cherry]

Now he's all about researching.

[Eldest (Stavi)]

Yeah. He doesn't use it. He does.

[Zach Cherry]

Like, curious.

[Eldest (Stavi)]

Oh, he's just keeping tabs.

[Zach Cherry]

Yeah.

[Eldest (Stavi)]

So does he have, like, a whole setup? Dude, does he have, like, six monitors and he's like. He's in the tech room. No, he has.

[Zach Cherry]

He has. He's even a new. Fairly new iPhone.

[Eldest (Stavi)]

Yes. Converter. Oh, yeah. Oh, my dad. You know my dad's Android. Yeah. They don't let. Again, immigrants have to have that.

[Zach Cherry]

I've heard.

[Eldest (Stavi)]

Yeah. My dad. My dad tries to talk to me on, like. I mean, dude, the way he. He texts me is so funny. Like, my. The. The hat. Like, he does not. Texts are very interesting because my dad, again, the way he's never used the computer. I don't. It's him texting. Might be the only time he's ever written English in his life. Let me see if I can find his typing style.

[Zach Cherry]

Have you ever seen him?

[Eldest (Stavi)]

Okay, so. Oh, yeah, here's. Here's the happy birthday message, which was really cute. Mr. Stavo misses the R completely. Misses the R completely. Mr. Stavo, happy birthday. It's your birthday today. I hope all your wishes slash N comes through your daddy.

[Zach Cherry]

That's a beautiful message.

[Eldest (Stavi)]

It's actually really cute. And it's the first time my dad. And also the first. Also. Look at this. I sent him. I sent him a fucking. I sent him a picture and him trying to like it. Look at it.

[Zach Cherry]

There are about seven.

[Eldest (Stavi)]

Yes. Thumbs up.

[Zach Cherry]

Remove thumbs up.

[Eldest (Stavi)]

I sent my dad a picture and I got thumbs up to a photo. Removed thumbs up from a photo, then thumbs up to a photo, then removed thumbs up from a photo again. And then the thumbs up emoji in the text.

[Zach Cherry]

What he was originally seeking, clearly. Yeah. It just took a few iterations to get there.

[Eldest (Stavi)]

Mr. Stavo, happy birthday. It is your birthday today.

[Zach Cherry]

That's beautiful. Yeah, it's really nice.

[Eldest (Stavi)]

It is fucking cute. What? Yeah. So you're. You got any. We got any immigrants going in your family? Where. What's Your. You're a Jersey guy.

[Zach Cherry]

I'm a Jersey guy.

[Eldest (Stavi)]

Nice.

[Zach Cherry]

Been my parents. Parents are still there. They've been there since, I don't know, before I was born, so probably 50 years.

[Eldest (Stavi)]

Oh, wow.

[Zach Cherry]

They both are from, of course, just turned 55.

[Eldest (Stavi)]

Yeah.

[Zach Cherry]

I'm trying to message that I'm older than I am so that I can kind of like get the. Paul Rudd.

[Eldest (Stavi)]

Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. He looks pretty good. Yeah, it's good for him.

[Zach Cherry]

Not that good, but not good.

[Eldest (Stavi)]

But for a fat 55. 55 year old.

[Zach Cherry]

Yeah, he's doing great.

[Eldest (Stavi)]

I know. We need to figure out the exact cuz dog years is seven years. What is fat years?

[Zach Cherry]

Is it 1.1 and a half? Yeah.

[Eldest (Stavi)]

It's not 1.5. It's got to be. It's somewhere between 06 and 08.

[Zach Cherry]

We got a little more breathing.

[Eldest (Stavi)]

Let's do 1.7. Let's.

[Zach Cherry]

Yeah, yeah, yeah, that's right. I think it is 1.7.

[Eldest (Stavi)]

Okay, Eldis, let's multiply our ages, please.

[Zach Cherry]

Yeah, throw that in there.

[Eldest (Stavi)]

Can you do that? Can you get the calculator going?

[Zach Cherry]

Can you develop a website for the fat years calculator that we can launch also?

[Eldest (Stavi)]

You know what it is? Fat years. Actually, here's what it is. It's on some kind of equation where when you start, it's actually one. It's the same. Yes. When you're like ages 4 to 11, it's one. Then at 11, it kicks into 1.05. Yes. So right at 12, you start aging a little worse.

[Zach Cherry]

But then honestly at 40, it kind of kicks into point eight. Point.

[Eldest (Stavi)]

Exactly.

[Zach Cherry]

Because you're ahead of the curve on all your friends who are just now getting fat.

[Eldest (Stavi)]

Exactly, exactly.

[Zach Cherry]

You've already settled in.

[Eldest (Stavi)]

Exactly. At 40, you actually age backwards as a fat person. Your 40s last 10, 13 years as a fat person.

[Zach Cherry]

Yes.

[Eldest (Stavi)]

But then at 62.5.

[Zach Cherry]

Right?

[Eldest (Stavi)]

Yeah. And then if you get to 80, it starts going like. It's like if you're hitting the multiplier, it's like 10x20x. When you get to 80 as a

[Zach Cherry]

fat person, ball machine starts lighting, dude.

[Eldest (Stavi)]

It's like it's vibrating, dude. Yeah, yeah, but if you.

[Zach Cherry]

If, if I make it to 80, that's a big W. Whatever happens at 80 is.

[Eldest (Stavi)]

Are you kidding me? Have you? I guess. Yeah. I'm trying to think who's the fattest 80 year old I've ever seen. It would have to be a rich person. But like, in terms of like oldest fat personnel this is Googling. You really think that's going to come up with anything usable? I mean really start thinking before you Google stuff. I don't know.

[Zach Cherry]

I think you know.

[Eldest (Stavi)]

Nice man. We have go to the. Yeah. Oldest fat person.

[Zach Cherry]

36 year old.

[Eldest (Stavi)]

I know. For real Old fat people now. He just switched to even a more general thing. Anyone. Just images. This is some fetish. Old fat people celebrities. What are you doing?

[Zach Cherry]

That's.

[Eldest (Stavi)]

Why do you think this. That's pretty good. Okay. Goodman. That's. Goodman is actually a great answer.

[Zach Cherry]

But he is amped up to the mat.

[Eldest (Stavi)]

The neck is really singing right now. That is my great greatest fear. I would rather stay fat than get the neck. Like Penn Jillette had one.

[Zach Cherry]

Yeah.

[Eldest (Stavi)]

Early. He had the neck. He's looking better now. I don't know. If you tighten that up.

[Zach Cherry]

I think you can. I think you can kind of figure it out.

[Eldest (Stavi)]

You can. Yeah.

[Zach Cherry]

Yeah. And I think there's probably ways to kind of stay fat up here.

[Eldest (Stavi)]

Sure.

[Zach Cherry]

And. And kind of get rid of.

[Eldest (Stavi)]

Sure, sure.

[Zach Cherry]

Sure.

[Eldest (Stavi)]

Which is a nice moot look.

[Zach Cherry]

Yeah. That's what I would prefer.

[Eldest (Stavi)]

Yeah.

[Zach Cherry]

I'd love to stay as fat as I ever was up here.

[Eldest (Stavi)]

Straight lollipop head, just full on and

[Zach Cherry]

just kind of shrink down.

[Eldest (Stavi)]

Yeah. Down below. John Goodman, Kathy Bates and Gandalf. See Gandalfini right there. That's a tough one. Bad example. That is.

[Zach Cherry]

Orson Wells lasted pretty long, right?

[Eldest (Stavi)]

Yeah. And that. It was like they didn't even have medicine when he was alive. Really. Like now fat people could do a bunch of like. Yeah. You know, I can't wait to get to the. Like this is a nice thing. And I'm sure, you know, we're both. We're both. We've both cracked into like. We're in rooms that the Illuminati spend like a few minutes in. Like we're not in the main rooms.

[Zach Cherry]

Right.

[Eldest (Stavi)]

But like we're like. They pass through the rooms we're in to get to the actual secret.

[Zach Cherry]

Or it's like. It's like after they've left then we're allowed for the next event.

[Eldest (Stavi)]

We almost get the leftovers. Yeah. Like they get to. They get their pickings and then they leave the.

[Zach Cherry]

They leave the stadiums up for the Paralympics.

[Eldest (Stavi)]

Yeah.

[Zach Cherry]

Exactly. They sort of bring us in.

[Eldest (Stavi)]

Yeah. We do a little foot race. Right. Yeah. Right after wherever Alyssa Lou was fucking ice skating. We then are missing a couple limbs and we get to. With our hand skates or whatever the. With our. Like they actually that's. If you don't have feet. How do you ice skate? Do they give you, like, a cool snowboard that you could attach? Can you attach one big ice skate to your body?

[Zach Cherry]

I have. I didn't watch any of. Any of the Olympics this year either.

[Eldest (Stavi)]

Ice skating Paralympics. Oh, yeah, we get that. Okay. Prosthetics. So anyway, so my point. The reason I was even saying, you know. Wait, why was I talking about the Illuminati? What are we just. What were we just talking about?

[Zach Cherry]

Think about how powerful we could become.

[Eldest (Stavi)]

I forgot. I totally forgot. We could. The point I was trying to make. No, they'll.

[Zach Cherry]

They'll.

[Eldest (Stavi)]

They'll break us off a little bit of that baby juice.

[Zach Cherry]

Maybe.

[Eldest (Stavi)]

Maybe. Oh, yes, yes, yes, yes, yes. We are now starting to be sort of, you know, we are in the rooms of the Illuminati. Leave. And so I can't wait to get close enough to ask about. Because I haven't met any fat famous people yet.

[Zach Cherry]

Sure.

[Eldest (Stavi)]

You know, like, everyone that I've been in, like, they. In fact, unless I'm in a movie where I play, like, a fat guy's son.

[Zach Cherry]

You're the fat.

[Eldest (Stavi)]

I have to be the fat guy

[Zach Cherry]

and the most famous.

[Eldest (Stavi)]

Right? That's actually a good point. Famous fat people are sort of the lowest class of famous person. We are sort of in the caste system of fame.

[Zach Cherry]

And much like other marginalized groups, they don't let us be in the same.

[Eldest (Stavi)]

No, never two of us. Yes. They're never. Although actually there was one. We were almost in the same movie, but would have never been in the same scenes. That's. So even if we're cast in the same movie, it's really just to play the role of fat. Yeah. It is true. We are marginalized in that way. So anyway, the first time I meet. If I ever met a fat old guy, I need to know this. I need.

[Zach Cherry]

Yeah.

[Eldest (Stavi)]

I need to know what kind of juice they got in their veins.

[Zach Cherry]

But they might not. We're. I think we're kind of the first generation that is claiming it proudly.

[Eldest (Stavi)]

That's a good point.

[Zach Cherry]

Of famous people.

[Eldest (Stavi)]

That is.

[Zach Cherry]

Actually, they don't want to talk about it.

[Eldest (Stavi)]

That is true. Because I think most famous fat people are. Are actually in, like, Jet Black is a great example. He's actually a hot guy. Like, if you look at Jack Black in his youth, like, famous fat people are just guys that were hot and just, like, weren't 110 pounds. Like, the fat guy. Like, which, I mean, look at, you know, Jack Black, even School of Rock. Jack Black is not fat at all, actually.

[Zach Cherry]

I mean, I've been watching.

[Eldest (Stavi)]

Oh my go. He's actually. This actually is my whole life up. He's not even sort of fat in this dude, but he. In my memories he was fat as.

[Zach Cherry]

Yes.

[Eldest (Stavi)]

Oh my God.

[Zach Cherry]

I've been watching Sopranos and same thing.

[Eldest (Stavi)]

He. Gandalfini is first season fat. Well, season six, he picks it up a little bit.

[Zach Cherry]

I haven't made it to season season six.

[Eldest (Stavi)]

I mean, I haven't made it the nose whistle breathing gets out of. When the. When the nose breathing gets out of. It's like season four. Yeah.

[Zach Cherry]

That's where I'm at.

[Eldest (Stavi)]

I mean he's getting there for.

[Zach Cherry]

He is. He's picking up steam.

[Eldest (Stavi)]

But I'm with you. Season one, he's just sexy. Yeah. He's not script kind. Yeah. Like that is my absolute dream physique. Is season one Gandolfini, which. How old was he? Can you look that up? Probably.

[Zach Cherry]

He's probably right around.

[Eldest (Stavi)]

Yeah, right here. 36. Yeah. How is gonna. He's exactly my age. Oh, no, no. He was 35 for the pilot and turned 38 when the first season aired.

[Zach Cherry]

Okay, so you still have time to make.

[Eldest (Stavi)]

So I could get if in couple years. Okay. That's actually not unrealistic. That's good to know because I thought it was probably 33 or something. All right. Okay. I could get there, man. After this, I'm gonna ask the famous people. I do know regular Illuminati secrets. Yeah. I need. So I need whatever they give Biden, dude. Whatever they were giving Biden to keep him alive.

[Zach Cherry]

I don't know if it was working that awesome dude.

[Eldest (Stavi)]

But. No, no, that's the thing.

[Zach Cherry]

It was.

[Eldest (Stavi)]

Have you like he. That that was getting him going even to speak on camera.

[Zach Cherry]

Yeah, I guess.

[Eldest (Stavi)]

If that's.

[Zach Cherry]

If that's your dream, your goal is to reach Biden. You're like, oh, baby, get this stuff. I got to get to bite to recent Biden level.

[Eldest (Stavi)]

I'm saying they basically have stuff that can reanimate a corpse.

[Zach Cherry]

Okay.

[Eldest (Stavi)]

So what could it do to just a fat 38 year old? You know what I mean? Probably. I could feel awesome. You might.

[Zach Cherry]

Yeah, you might. Or you might just go full Biden.

[Eldest (Stavi)]

That's true. What if that would be too. If it just zaps my full. What if the. The drugs they were given zapped him? What if they knew he was.

[Zach Cherry]

That's my theory.

[Eldest (Stavi)]

He was going to. He was so strong. They had to drug drug dated. They knew he was Going to start a new communist revolution.

[Zach Cherry]

Exactly right.

[Eldest (Stavi)]

I love how they call him a fucking communist. It's like, honestly, they. Every Democrat should just be like, you know what? We're going to kill landlords. You know what I mean? Let's just be Mao. Because they will call you a communist either way.

[Zach Cherry]

Right? They already are.

[Eldest (Stavi)]

Go crazy. Just be like, yeah, we're going to actually execute the. Everyone in Beverly who owns the. Every property owner. We're going to. We have a firing squad for you.

[Zach Cherry]

I don't know if we're there yet for that to be politically viable. Saying, give it a.

[Eldest (Stavi)]

We're getting close. Okay. Why do Republicans get to be Nazis? Why can't we. Why don't we get to be straight up communists? You know, they literally holding up. They just reelected a guy who literally like, has Minecamp. That's true.

[Zach Cherry]

They go full on.

[Eldest (Stavi)]

So why can't I be like, fuck it? And by the way, we're carving out an exception for single digit show business millionaires. Kill all millionaires except for single digit show business millionaires.

[Zach Cherry]

Earned it the honest way by. By providing entertainment for others.

[Eldest (Stavi)]

For the masses. For the masses, dude.

[Zach Cherry]

Populism.

[Eldest (Stavi)]

Come on.

[Zach Cherry]

I. It is funny that I. I literally was thinking and I don't. I actually don't even know what the actual, like, plan is, but the timing of. Of New York City taxing rich people and me having money getting rich.

[Eldest (Stavi)]

Yeah, that's.

[Zach Cherry]

It really has.

[Eldest (Stavi)]

It's really tough.

[Zach Cherry]

Yeah. And I mean, I love it. I'm happy for it, but.

[Eldest (Stavi)]

I know. Well, the nice thing about living in New York is like, the taxes might help people. It might not immediately buy the IDF a jetpack. You know what I mean? I mean, maybe not. I mean, it's. At least in New York it's a coin flip whether it's a public library

[Zach Cherry]

or a lot of the NYPD stuff trickles that way.

[Eldest (Stavi)]

That is true.

[Zach Cherry]

But you know, we could keep the libraries open for a couple hours longer.

[Eldest (Stavi)]

Exactly.

[Zach Cherry]

And send the jets back and.

[Eldest (Stavi)]

Yes. And the cops get to just get overtime for standing around on a sidewalk and not doing anything. But at least sort of, you could get a little. But yeah, I know, dude, the property taxes. I'm like, fuck, yeah. I'm putting my money where my.

[Zach Cherry]

That's not an issue for me.

[Eldest (Stavi)]

I mean, I haven't bought a place.

[Zach Cherry]

Property hasn't become one of my concerns.

[Eldest (Stavi)]

I know. It is funny we were talking because we also. We just had a beautiful pizza dinner a couple days ago and your oven straight up doesn't work. Yeah. Which I think people would be shocked to find out about. Severance's Zach Cherry. Well, an Emmy nominated actor does not have a working oven for pizza.

[Zach Cherry]

It works.

[Eldest (Stavi)]

Okay,

[Zach Cherry]

it works. But it's kind of temperamental where some months it needs to preheat for four or five hours.

[Eldest (Stavi)]

Okay, okay, okay. You gotta just slow roast the oven.

[Zach Cherry]

You gotta know in the morning that you're gonna want to heat up a slice of pizza at night, and then you're fine.

[Eldest (Stavi)]

So.

[Zach Cherry]

Yeah.

[Eldest (Stavi)]

And then in the morning you're like, I think I'll be in the mood for pizza around 8pm so I'll set an alarm for 4pm it starts. Ish.

[Zach Cherry]

And this has happened before.

[Eldest (Stavi)]

Okay.

[Zach Cherry]

I always do. I didn't do anything about it. I complained to my friends and then it started working.

[Eldest (Stavi)]

There you go. Okay.

[Zach Cherry]

It's a very easy system.

[Eldest (Stavi)]

What about your landlord? Have you ever considered.

[Zach Cherry]

Yeah, we. We have a good relationship. Yeah.

[Eldest (Stavi)]

I like you because you allow your oven to be broken forever.

[Zach Cherry]

Sure. Maybe. Maybe.

[Eldest (Stavi)]

I do. I do.

[Zach Cherry]

I've lived in the same place for like 12 years.

[Eldest (Stavi)]

Oh, hell yeah.

[Zach Cherry]

So, you know, we have. I love that we've developed a dynamic that works for both of us.

[Eldest (Stavi)]

Okay, that's good.

[Zach Cherry]

Does it include me not complaining about the oven?

[Eldest (Stavi)]

Yeah, yeah. Ye.

[Zach Cherry]

But any day.

[Eldest (Stavi)]

Any day you're gonna bring it up.

[Zach Cherry]

Yeah, we'll see.

[Eldest (Stavi)]

You should do. You store stuff in there like you see New Yorkers put.

[Zach Cherry]

I try to use it every once in a while.

[Eldest (Stavi)]

Okay. I love that. And you and I suggested an air fryer and you said you're already maxed out counter space. Yes.

[Zach Cherry]

Yeah, I am. We. We had to bring in additional counter space and then that is also maxed out.

[Eldest (Stavi)]

And that's maxed out. Okay, can we run through? Because to me, air fryer might be my number one thing I need on there.

[Zach Cherry]

I've never had one, so I don't know what I'm missing.

[Eldest (Stavi)]

I see, I see. Okay, so then what. Okay, for me, I would go. Air fryer. Rice cooker. Rice cooker.

[Zach Cherry]

We have the rice cooker.

[Eldest (Stavi)]

Okay. We got the zojirushi. I've been. Yes. The big one. The big one. Okay. Respect.

[Zach Cherry]

Yes. The one that plays a little song

[Eldest (Stavi)]

for you when you're playing a little star.

[Caller/Guest]

Yeah.

[Eldest (Stavi)]

And. And when I hear that, dude, my dick gets hard for fresh. For fresh rice. Dude, I'm Pavlov's dog with that shit. Dude, this shit's awesome. All right, so rice cooker. I respect.

[Zach Cherry]

We got Rice cooker.

[Eldest (Stavi)]

What do we have a coffee situation?

[Zach Cherry]

Yeah. Let me work from red to left.

[Eldest (Stavi)]

Give us Minority report.

[Zach Cherry]

Okay, so we got the Zojirushi here.

[Eldest (Stavi)]

Okay. Okay.

[Zach Cherry]

It was in front of the Zojirushi. We've got my dogs, rawhide. They're not raw, but like bully sticks that I. Wow.

[Eldest (Stavi)]

They just sit. Can I be honest? That's a crazy prime spot for the dog's bully sticks.

[Zach Cherry]

Because I need access to those every day. They really live up here.

[Eldest (Stavi)]

Okay.

[Zach Cherry]

On the shelf above my head.

[Eldest (Stavi)]

Okay. Okay.

[Zach Cherry]

But that's kind of where they are right now.

[Eldest (Stavi)]

So there's an on deck circle. Yeah. And the batter's box.

[Zach Cherry]

And that's where the can of beans. I don't use always goes to. I just sort of rest the can of beans there.

[Eldest (Stavi)]

The can of beans in the rawhide.

[Zach Cherry]

I buy the tortillas and I'm planning on making burritos.

[Eldest (Stavi)]

Sure, sure, sure.

[Zach Cherry]

Can of beans got to stay there. Then I kind of don't get to.

[Eldest (Stavi)]

Of course. So it just. I get there. I get that.

[Zach Cherry]

Then we got a full toaster. Not toaster, oven, toaster.

[Eldest (Stavi)]

Wow.

[Zach Cherry]

Four slices.

[Eldest (Stavi)]

Four slices.

[Zach Cherry]

Four slices.

[Eldest (Stavi)]

This is crazy. You got a four slice toaster. We got a four dog treats. And you can't get a air fryer. All right, I'll stop interrupting. I'll stop interrupting.

[Zach Cherry]

Then we move over here. We have. And I genuinely don't know, it is some type of coffee contraption.

[Eldest (Stavi)]

Okay.

[Zach Cherry]

I'm not a coffee guy. My wife is a coffee person.

[Eldest (Stavi)]

That's fine. Seed the coffee to the wife.

[Zach Cherry]

She has a, you know, some sort of titration. Love that going on. Love that whatever thing. Then we have the blender.

[Eldest (Stavi)]

The.

[Zach Cherry]

The whatever.

[Eldest (Stavi)]

Vitamix.

[Zach Cherry]

Yeah, yeah, the big Vitamix.

[Eldest (Stavi)]

Vitamixi.

[Zach Cherry]

Then after Vitamix, I use a lot. That's the one. And I do use the toaster.

[Eldest (Stavi)]

Okay. Yeah, yeah.

[Zach Cherry]

We. We love a piece of toast.

[Eldest (Stavi)]

I like, you know, I do respect that. But it's like you could have a toast function.

[Zach Cherry]

You could just toast it in the oven. But as we discussed.

[Eldest (Stavi)]

Right. No oven.

[Zach Cherry]

That's gonna be.

[Eldest (Stavi)]

Well, that's what I'm saying. Okay.

[Zach Cherry]

Do that for breakfast.

[Eldest (Stavi)]

Of course.

[Zach Cherry]

Start the oven the night before.

[Eldest (Stavi)]

Yeah. Which actually you could feel is actually like the best way to do it.

[Zach Cherry]

You could do.

[Eldest (Stavi)]

Because you know you want toast when you go to bed.

[Zach Cherry]

Yeah. Although I'm actually not really a morning toast guy.

[Eldest (Stavi)]

I. Oh, interesting.

[Zach Cherry]

I may toast as a. Like, I am hungry, but I shouldn't order Pizza.

[Eldest (Stavi)]

Of course. Little pick me up.

[Zach Cherry]

Have a piece of toast, dude. With you know, a variety of. You know, depending on what I'm in the mood for.

[Eldest (Stavi)]

I see that dude.

[Zach Cherry]

If any sweet treat. I'll go Jamie. If I need.

[Eldest (Stavi)]

That's nice.

[Zach Cherry]

Something else. I'll go Garlic and butter.

[Eldest (Stavi)]

I love that. Yeah. Toast and butter. Is it. Is it the best single bite? Like it's up there in the single bite. Best single bite tournament.

[Zach Cherry]

Fresh.

[Eldest (Stavi)]

Damn, dude.

[Zach Cherry]

We got just melted.

[Eldest (Stavi)]

We should honestly. We steal doughboys, dude. We could crush them. Dude. If me and you started a food podcast, Mitch would kill himself. We would. He would absolutely steamroll those pussies.

[Zach Cherry]

Dude upset. It would negatively affect his life big time.

[Eldest (Stavi)]

We just completely ruined the life of our friend. For fun. We don't stick with it and we

[Zach Cherry]

just cover the restaurants in the exact order.

[Eldest (Stavi)]

You completely steal everything they do. But just with us.

[Zach Cherry]

Yeah.

[Eldest (Stavi)]

That would be an old fashioned like Hollywood trick. I think we should. We should do that. Yeah. Yeah.

[Zach Cherry]

To Wild west. The podcast space a little bit.

[Eldest (Stavi)]

Yeah, right. It's like old vaudeville. There were no rules, dude.

[Zach Cherry]

Copyright. You can't eating at restaurants.

[Eldest (Stavi)]

And by the way, Weiger's not even fat. That fat. He used to be fat.

[Zach Cherry]

He claimed he used to be fat. I'm skeptical.

[Eldest (Stavi)]

Yeah, we would destroy them. And they're kind of tall.

[Zach Cherry]

I mean that is.

[Eldest (Stavi)]

How dare they both be tall. Talk about food. That is.

[Zach Cherry]

We're two little fat guys, dude.

[Eldest (Stavi)]

And we deserve to be the food. Food podcast.

[Zach Cherry]

Mitch is fat.

[Eldest (Stavi)]

Sure, sure.

[Zach Cherry]

But big. If we're talking, you know, societal, we're talking ratios. Of course, if we're plugging into the bmi, he was like compete.

[Eldest (Stavi)]

I know. He said he was 350 and I was like I was 350. But he's six two and I'm five. Exactly, exactly. Yeah. Okay, this is what we're going to do is we're going to start with the first bite down. First bite tournament. Best bite humanity has to offer Tournament.

[Zach Cherry]

Yeah.

[Eldest (Stavi)]

Okay. They're doing Munch madness. I guess it already happened since it's mid April right now. As everybody knows, it is mid April. We were just. I knew, were just talking about our plans for 420.

[Zach Cherry]

That's right.

[Eldest (Stavi)]

We're just talking about Easter plans. You know, I'm sure I'm. I'm assuming you're a very religious man.

[Zach Cherry]

My suit already.

[Eldest (Stavi)]

Oh, you would cry.

[Zach Cherry]

My pastel.

[Eldest (Stavi)]

Pastel. You would look awesome in one of those. Were any religious stuff growing up? What's the Fam.

[Zach Cherry]

Doing. Yes.

[Eldest (Stavi)]

Okay.

[Zach Cherry]

Just sort of generically Christian.

[Eldest (Stavi)]

Generically Christian.

[Zach Cherry]

You know, Protestant.

[Eldest (Stavi)]

Oh, okay.

[Zach Cherry]

No, no specific.

[Eldest (Stavi)]

Interesting.

[Zach Cherry]

Just sort of as vague as possible.

[Eldest (Stavi)]

Yeah, Like. Yeah, we're Christian, I guess.

[Zach Cherry]

Yeah.

[Eldest (Stavi)]

So your parents are both Jersey. So are you a. Are you. Do you go back? Can you trace your lineage generations back into.

[Zach Cherry]

No, no, no, no. My parents moved to Jersey kind of just before my older brother was born, I think.

[Eldest (Stavi)]

Okay.

[Zach Cherry]

My dad is from Alabama, my mom is from Illinois, so we're Central American stuff.

[Eldest (Stavi)]

Central America. Calling that Central America.

[Zach Cherry]

I'm Central American.

[Eldest (Stavi)]

Honestly, if you said you were. No one is saying. No one is stopping you. Dude.

[Zach Cherry]

I can sort of slide into any.

[Eldest (Stavi)]

You can slide. There's a. You have a nice. Yeah.

[Zach Cherry]

Every single ethnicity has approached me and said, yeah, I think you are my cousin.

[Eldest (Stavi)]

You honestly look a lot like my uncle. Like, I'm like.

[Zach Cherry]

If you.

[Eldest (Stavi)]

If you kept. If you like, like. Yeah, my uncle doesn't have a big ass beard.

[Zach Cherry]

Yeah.

[Eldest (Stavi)]

But I think if he went. If he grew his beard out, you kind of. He's a piece of. No disrespect, but I'll take it. Actually, not a. You know, I'm. He's not a piece of. He's just kind of a door dork. You know, when. Cool. Yeah, yeah, he's kind of. He's kind of like that. He would be very vulnerable.

[Zach Cherry]

I like him.

[Eldest (Stavi)]

My fat uncle Dimitri, who. His diabetes was so out of control and he has not stopped eating for like, dude.

[Zach Cherry]

So he's awesome.

[Eldest (Stavi)]

He actually is the man. And he knows the best restaurants and I literally have to live in New York. No, he's in Athens. Yeah, yeah.

[Zach Cherry]

I'm not making it over.

[Eldest (Stavi)]

Dude, if you come, I would love to get my uncle. Truly, my uncle is like. Like my aunt and uncle. They are true. We are so related because all they care about is restaurants. Like, they know every great. Like, I need to get a full list. You know, I need to go to Greece and be like, spend a summer eating around Greece with them and come up with the greatest guidebook. Like two, like a fat Greek guys. A fat 60 year old Greek guy. Actually, my uncle. And you know what, we gotta hurry because he. He. Let's just say the fat years calculator.

[Zach Cherry]

He's really.

[Eldest (Stavi)]

He's in the DDR multiplier. He's been flawless for 20 minutes, basically on a DDR machine. It's lighting up, dude.

[Zach Cherry]

Yeah.

[Eldest (Stavi)]

Let me just say he's got a flawless fat streak, at least since the late 70s.

[Zach Cherry]

Let's make this happen.

[Eldest (Stavi)]

We need to make this happen quick, dude.

[Zach Cherry]

Because I do want to have acts.

[Eldest (Stavi)]

I want this list to exist. We need the list to exist.

[Zach Cherry]

It's for posterity.

[Eldest (Stavi)]

And I think they would get a kick out of the taking me and my fat friends around. Honestly, that's maybe the dream fat house. We as. I don't know if we ever said it on the podcast, but we are in a. In a group. A fat group chat with me. Me, Zach, Gabriel. Yeah.

[Zach Cherry]

Fat Illuminati.

[Eldest (Stavi)]

Absolutely.

[Zach Cherry]

We're making.

[Eldest (Stavi)]

Yeah.

[Zach Cherry]

The people we didn't see in our youth.

[Eldest (Stavi)]

Exactly, exactly. We are. We are. We are. We are creating the Fat Illuminati. Yeah. And we're getting auxiliary members in. We talked about Carl. Carl, Tara. He's just not fat enough. Otherwise, Carl would be a Prime Member. He just 2F could dunk in his youth.

[Zach Cherry]

Yeah.

[Eldest (Stavi)]

Just a different experience, you know, and even Mitch is big, but he was. He never got. So he kind of spiritually is 5:5. You know, he's basically. He's so pathetic that he turned being six two, five, five. Somehow.

[Zach Cherry]

You and him sort of swapped essences.

[Eldest (Stavi)]

We really did. I know. That is true. He behaves. Puberty.

[Zach Cherry]

You guys kind of got your wires crossed.

[Eldest (Stavi)]

But, yeah, this is good. We're gonna. We're gonna make this happen. I so just vague. Generic. Vague, generic Christianity.

[Zach Cherry]

Although we did. We did. We did one time. I. I was like, an active member of this community. I was in the youth group.

[Eldest (Stavi)]

Oh, yeah, dude.

[Zach Cherry]

I was doing this.

[Eldest (Stavi)]

I went to the Greek Orthodox Youth of America. I was in that group. What is that? Just kind of a youth group, but, like, you know.

[Zach Cherry]

But you like hanging out. Yeah, we would do, like, paintball.

[Eldest (Stavi)]

Yeah.

[Zach Cherry]

And we did go on a trip together one time, and one of the youth pastors. I was asleep for this. Supposedly started speaking tongues in the middle of the night and freaked out all the other groups, and they left in

[Eldest (Stavi)]

the middle of the holy. Dude, that's awesome.

[Zach Cherry]

Yeah.

[Eldest (Stavi)]

So I was, like, speaking in tongues. I was like.

[Zach Cherry]

So maybe. Maybe our church was weirder than I remember, but I. Yeah, that's the only one.

[Eldest (Stavi)]

Yeah. Because speaking in tongues is not what you're describing. No, that is not generic.

[Zach Cherry]

No, that. And that wasn't my experience. I guess they waited till I went to sleep.

[Eldest (Stavi)]

Right.

[Zach Cherry]

And then they would all kind of get together.

[Eldest (Stavi)]

And I love that shit. I love. I mean, every one of those people is clearly faking it. Yeah.

[Zach Cherry]

Some of them don't think they are. Yeah.

[Eldest (Stavi)]

Yeah.

[Zach Cherry]

You know, they truly Believe.

[Eldest (Stavi)]

That's nice to have so little control of your own brain that you do something and pretend and you like you in the moment, you. You pretend.

[Zach Cherry]

You can just scare yourself. You can make yourself laugh.

[Eldest (Stavi)]

I know it's true. I mean, it takes me, like, to be fair, though, it takes me like, six hours of having a bad day to be on the brink of being like. Of being like. You could probably, like, sex traffic me, like, in my brain. Like, if. If I'm. If I'm bummed out for eight straight hours, I'm, like, so susceptible. I religion. I start talking to God.

[Zach Cherry]

I like all types of God that I've been. I've been made bulletproof through. Through. Honestly, basically that one. One experience where I had already kind of not liked that guy.

[Eldest (Stavi)]

Yeah.

[Zach Cherry]

My parents were like, he's fine. And I was like, like, seems a little piece of. So I. I'm cult stuff. I'm allergic to it, I think.

[Eldest (Stavi)]

Of course, you know what you mean.

[Zach Cherry]

Now someone will get me.

[Eldest (Stavi)]

But yeah, I mean, I would love to have my own cult. I think I'd be great at that.

[Zach Cherry]

I wouldn't even want that.

[Eldest (Stavi)]

Yeah.

[Zach Cherry]

Yeah. I don't want to be around people that much.

[Eldest (Stavi)]

You're more of a homebody. Like, I was apologizing. It's a beautiful day, and I'm actually pissed that I have to podcast. This is what I do for you. Do you understand that?

[Zach Cherry]

It is like the so nice day in a while.

[Eldest (Stavi)]

It's so nice. I haven't been in New York York for three consecutive days, for months, and this is the first time I get to enjoy it. It's like, but what am I doing? I'm PI, so just know we. I care about you, okay? I make sacrifices. But you were like, oh, I don't care. I wasn't gonna be outside.

[Zach Cherry]

No, I probably would have. I might have seen crime 101 again.

[Eldest (Stavi)]

It looks. Is it good? Yeah, I liked it a lot. Yeah.

[Zach Cherry]

But not necessarily enough to see it again, but Sundays are. Are my movie day.

[Eldest (Stavi)]

I like that.

[Zach Cherry]

But get out of the house. Go see a movie. And we're kind of in a period where I've seen most of.

[Eldest (Stavi)]

Yeah. You know what's out there. But interesting dudes. That's a nice. That's your little ritual you do. You pair it with, like. Do you wake up? Because I did. I at least got a nice morning today. I woke up, got a coffee, walked around, had a bagel. Although heartbreaking, just moving to a new neighborhood and the bagel place around the Corner sucks.

[Zach Cherry]

Yeah, that's.

[Eldest (Stavi)]

That's real. Because it's. It's right around the corner. So you're like, if this place is good.

[Zach Cherry]

Right, Right.

[Eldest (Stavi)]

My life is set.

[Zach Cherry]

I lucked into legit. One of the best bagel places in New York is in my neighborhood. This place, Knickerbocker Bagel in Bushwick. Someone recently did a list of like best bagels in New York. I think it was number two.

[Eldest (Stavi)]

Wow.

[Zach Cherry]

I believe they have locations in. I might need some help with this eldest. I believe they have a location in Bushwick and one in like Seoul.

[Eldest (Stavi)]

Seoul. Korean. That's awesome.

[Zach Cherry]

The guy like.

[Eldest (Stavi)]

Well, there is actually a great. In a story at where we are, there is a great, great bagel place that is Korean run and they have a Bulgogi bagel.

[Zach Cherry]

So, you know, just classic bagels. But I think, I swear on their website it'll say they have two locations. Anyway, I lucked into this being a local bagel shop and it's incredible.

[Eldest (Stavi)]

Hell yeah, dude. Good for you. Why don't you keep scrolling down dumbass figure. Best bagels in New York. All right, whatever. They didn't immediately tell us our locations. So far, just New York.

[Zach Cherry]

They must have closed down.

[Eldest (Stavi)]

Maybe they were like supporting the fascist president now that they're out.

[Zach Cherry]

Yeah, back up.

[Eldest (Stavi)]

Maybe the fascist president that they put in jail loved Knickerbocker bagels. Sorry, I don't want to. Actually, I don't know that I'm not slandering you. Knickerbocker Bagels.

[Zach Cherry]

And I may have fully made that up. I swear to God. When I first looked up their website, they had a location in some insane area.

[Eldest (Stavi)]

Yeah, well, a lot of places will have like a location like Dubai or some. Yeah, I mean, which. That's kind of a red flag to me.

[Zach Cherry]

Sure.

[Eldest (Stavi)]

But it, you know, that doesn't usually

[Zach Cherry]

happen at the local bagel.

[Eldest (Stavi)]

Of course. Of course.

[Zach Cherry]

That's more the like.

[Eldest (Stavi)]

Yes, some about bagels is Dubai doesn't really want over there. Something about maybe who. Who would make the best bagels? They're not interested in importing them to Dubai, obviously. I don't know what that's about, but. But hey, is Dubai even still exist right now? Who fucking knows?

[Zach Cherry]

In mid April.

[Eldest (Stavi)]

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[Zach Cherry]

Not so much. Lately I've been basically just hanging out.

[Eldest (Stavi)]

So that is nice because being an actor sucks dick. Compare like I've I've realized how little they pay actors and, and how much like you have to go to like, you know, that's like. I respect you because you don't want to go to award shows. You don't want to go to anything.

[Zach Cherry]

I don't, I barely want to leave the house. Like, like today I did. I. I did. I had a semi miserable morning because I'm trying to. I'm trying to keep the fat multiplier.

[Eldest (Stavi)]

Yeah, you try to keep it down.

[Zach Cherry]

So I've started pelotoning a lot. I did a, I did a one hour peloton this morning.

[Eldest (Stavi)]

Wow. Holy. That's kind of. It's. By the way, thank you. It's so nice out that you were in your house.

[Zach Cherry]

I hopped on the bike, put on my little sweatband, opened up the shade so I could see the empty apartment across the street, and I just pedaled away.

[Eldest (Stavi)]

Damn.

[Zach Cherry]

Yeah.

[Eldest (Stavi)]

How's that? You like the peloton?

[Zach Cherry]

I do. I like that it's inside my house.

[Eldest (Stavi)]

Are you always a homebot? Even as a kid, you were just hanging out?

[Zach Cherry]

Yeah, for the most part I was. I, I largely am a homebody. I'm. I'm like cruising towards full on hermit.

[Eldest (Stavi)]

Yeah.

[Zach Cherry]

And the second I have the funds to do it.

[Eldest (Stavi)]

Oh yeah.

[Zach Cherry]

Not coming out.

[Eldest (Stavi)]

I love that dude. Else you're just gonna get a fucking. But yeah, I. There is something nice about. Because I, I like going outside, but I also love the ability, the idea that I could have. Maybe it's getting. Maybe everybody who like lived through Covid now has this latent desire to have your home be tricked out. So if you were forced inside again because it doesn't feel like we're gonna get. Doesn't feel like we're getting further away from global events that force us to live in our home for an unidentified period. You know what I mean? I mean it doesn't feel like that's that go. I mean, another one could be on the way. Some kind of nuclear fallout. Who. Fucking absolutely. And it would be a dream to be tricked out. I'd love to have like a room that's like. I got a sauna in that.

[Zach Cherry]

That is a dream. New York City. Not the place for Tough.

[Eldest (Stavi)]

Tough to do it. Yeah. Well, you know what you should do?

[Zach Cherry]

Find one of your other friend's apartments. Yeah, you should scatter your saunas throughout your friends.

[Eldest (Stavi)]

I have different. Yeah, I, I have friends with an extra bedroom and I rent it out and have different activities. I do. Yeah. That's actually not a bad Connect them with tunnels, tunnel connection, we all hang out. That sounds awesome.

[Zach Cherry]

That's kind of the dream.

[Eldest (Stavi)]

Yeah. All right.

[Zach Cherry]

Because I like my friends, so I

[Eldest (Stavi)]

like, I like being connected in their spaces. But.

[Zach Cherry]

But I kind of just want to, you know.

[Eldest (Stavi)]

Yeah, I get that. What were any hobbies as a child? Did you anything in your youth?

[Zach Cherry]

I was a theater kid.

[Eldest (Stavi)]

Theater kid?

[Zach Cherry]

I mean, honestly, I was an. I was an improv child.

[Eldest (Stavi)]

Oh, no. I've been doing a huge piece of

[Zach Cherry]

since I was eight in fifth grade.

[Eldest (Stavi)]

Are you serious?

[Zach Cherry]

Yeah.

[Eldest (Stavi)]

You're a improv messy dude? Yeah. You were in the youth academy.

[Zach Cherry]

You know what's funny? I went to a summer, like a performing arts summer camp. They had improv and when they would do like counselor sets, I would participate.

[Eldest (Stavi)]

That's awesome. They bumped you up to varsity. You're the 13 year old that plays varsity.

[Zach Cherry]

I was a little improv messy. I was running around just, dude, dude,

[Eldest (Stavi)]

you should see this guy. Dude, you should see this guy adapt to whatever you throw at him. This dude. This is a 9 year old. Yes. Hands at a 14 year old level.

[Zach Cherry]

I was, I was an advanced improviser. Although I think I was mostly just like repeating stuff I heard on the Simpsons. But like, compared to everyone else, of

[Eldest (Stavi)]

course, at the time it was like

[Zach Cherry]

even being able to like mad lib. Of course other things was enough to

[Eldest (Stavi)]

kind of like, yeah, wow, that's crazy.

[Zach Cherry]

But yeah, I was big time improv. Was your theater and improv kid early and now.

[Eldest (Stavi)]

How much were you bullied?

[Zach Cherry]

Not that much. Not that much because first of all, I didn't tell anyone.

[Eldest (Stavi)]

I was smart.

[Zach Cherry]

I wasn't being.

[Eldest (Stavi)]

You're probably mysterious and still today. Right. I'm shocked to find this out. Good for you.

[Zach Cherry]

And I, I mean, I still. I have a show tonight. I will tell. No, this doesn't come out for hurt.

[Eldest (Stavi)]

Yeah. So luckily this. No one will know.

[Zach Cherry]

I will tell no one about it.

[Eldest (Stavi)]

Yeah.

[Zach Cherry]

Constantly people are like, hey, you ever perform? And I'm like, I did five shows this week.

[Eldest (Stavi)]

They're like, what the. Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah.

[Zach Cherry]

I. I don't like to tell anyone about it. I just like to do it.

[Eldest (Stavi)]

You see, improv is a disease that you have to like to do it to get out of your system. I mean, it's like somebody who's like half vampire who like you're in the shadows like drinking dead raccoons and. Yeah. Because you don't want to know. Yeah.

[Zach Cherry]

Me doing improv is. Is the version of. It's like Wesley Snipes developing a serum

[Eldest (Stavi)]

to keep you from being a full blown.

[Zach Cherry]

But not. I don't advertise it so that I can keep it.

[Eldest (Stavi)]

I respect that.

[Zach Cherry]

Yeah. But like, I was. Yeah, I was theater. That was my thing.

[Eldest (Stavi)]

Theater. Gotcha. Gotcha.

[Zach Cherry]

But yeah, being funny in the theater.

[Eldest (Stavi)]

Of course.

[Zach Cherry]

I was the kid who. The guy. Our, like, theater guy who was great. He like. I wouldn't, you know, be doing it

[Eldest (Stavi)]

if it wasn't for him kind of guy. That's awesome.

[Zach Cherry]

He would just give me. We would like, do Shakespeare and he'd be like, you can play this little part and literally do whatever you want.

[Eldest (Stavi)]

Wow.

[Zach Cherry]

So I would like walk out and be like, hey.

[Eldest (Stavi)]

And he would just like summon your nose at me, brother. How dare you thumb your at me.

[Zach Cherry]

I didn't even know enough of the lines to get.

[Eldest (Stavi)]

That's the only one I remember. Yeah. You. You allowed me to look. Make it look like I knew Shakespeare. That's the only thing I remember. But yeah. So that was my. Ah.

[Zach Cherry]

That was my come up.

[Eldest (Stavi)]

Okay, I get that. What's. What about the rest? Like you said, you have an older brother. Was.

[Zach Cherry]

Older brother.

[Eldest (Stavi)]

Were they in there? Do you have other siblings?

[Zach Cherry]

Nope. One older brother. The reason I wasn't bullied is I went to a very small school.

[Eldest (Stavi)]

Gotcha.

[Zach Cherry]

And I started when I was in.

[Eldest (Stavi)]

It would be awesome if this is like a religious school. It's like you clearly were in a. Everything you said only now revealing. You're in a cult. You're like really small. It was actually homeschool. We all.

[Zach Cherry]

Everyone was a member of my family. And we did. We had sucking sessions.

[Eldest (Stavi)]

Yeah, everyone except my. The priest was my direct in my family and he came and he would do these like, these. He would lead us in a meditation where everybody closes their eyes and has their mouth open. Yeah.

[Zach Cherry]

No, I just went to a small. I was. I was a. I grew up in Trenton. I went to public.

[Eldest (Stavi)]

Trenton takes the world. Make or trend? Makes the world take. Yes. I love the. The passive aggressive Trenton sign.

[Zach Cherry]

I mean, it's. It's kind of. It's like. It is the thing that is. That's our big source of city pride. Is that that bridge and slogan?

[Eldest (Stavi)]

It is. It's a great slogan.

[Zach Cherry]

I don't. I honestly don't really know what.

[Eldest (Stavi)]

What that. What it made. I think it was steel improv prodigy.

[Zach Cherry]

That's right.

[Eldest (Stavi)]

That's right. They're talking about you, dude. You're their big export.

[Zach Cherry]

I'm the modern export. That's tough that's really tough. That is actually feel bad.

[Eldest (Stavi)]

Trenton leaves the world trend leaves the world in character actors. You put in a serious drama for a little relief, a little, a little change of pace.

[Zach Cherry]

I mean, hey, if you're gonna, if you're gonna make it that list, I'm near the top.

[Eldest (Stavi)]

Near. You're the number one dude.

[Zach Cherry]

But then I in for, in kindergarten, my teacher was like, we gotta get this kid.

[Eldest (Stavi)]

We gotta get this kid to the big league. Yeah.

[Zach Cherry]

So I started at a very small private school in first grade.

[Eldest (Stavi)]

Wow.

[Zach Cherry]

And went there there through graduation. So I had known everyone. By the time I was eligible to be bullied, I'd already done the work

[Eldest (Stavi)]

laying the base layer of relationships. That's kind of beautiful. Yeah, it was great. So did your, was your brother going to that school too or do you.

[Zach Cherry]

Yeah, yeah, yeah. And I, I, I'm, that's like one of the reasons I don't go outside that much. That's all. Still my friends. It's like.

[Eldest (Stavi)]

Yeah. Oh, interesting.

[Zach Cherry]

The guys I've known since I was holy. I'm, yeah, me, I have my eldest. I don't employ them or hang out with them as much, but I do like them.

[Eldest (Stavi)]

It's, I really would not have suggested. It's one of the worst decisions I've ever made.

[Zach Cherry]

And I don't think any Albanians in my, in my.

[Eldest (Stavi)]

None.

[Zach Cherry]

I apologize.

[Eldest (Stavi)]

None in Trenton.

[Zach Cherry]

I apologize.

[Eldest (Stavi)]

What about Greeks?

[Zach Cherry]

Greeks in Trenton? Not that I know of. In the, in the crew.

[Eldest (Stavi)]

Yeah. Yeah, dude. Oh. So you and the boys, you, you and the boys from the small private school. Was it religious?

[Zach Cherry]

No, no, just a, just a day school.

[Eldest (Stavi)]

Like some Montessori type.

[Zach Cherry]

No, it was just like it started as, it started like in the 30s as a all boys school.

[Eldest (Stavi)]

Okay, okay.

[Zach Cherry]

But then it became more regular. By the time I got there, the

[Eldest (Stavi)]

skull and bone stuff was gone. There was no jacking off. There's no secret societies.

[Zach Cherry]

I think that was all gone by the time I got there.

[Eldest (Stavi)]

I could see when they started trend being like, like a power city.

[Zach Cherry]

Well, this also the school was not in Trenton. The school was in, in Princeton and Princeton.

[Eldest (Stavi)]

Fancy boys. Yeah. So maybe there was some skull and bones type. Yeah.

[Zach Cherry]

But again, not while I, they waited till I went to sleep. They all jacked up.

[Eldest (Stavi)]

Jacking all. Having gay sex while speaking Latin. That's some you got to do if you go to private school through me. Yeah, that's hilarious. Dude. Is Princeton right by Trenton?

[Zach Cherry]

It's like 20 minutes close.

[Eldest (Stavi)]

Is it, is it like every Ivy League. It seems like around it is a bunch of dog. Was there, like, a bunch. Was there. Shitty neighborhood? Like, is Princeton shitty?

[Zach Cherry]

No, Princeton's very.

[Eldest (Stavi)]

Princeton's nice.

[Zach Cherry]

Very nice. Very rich. Very, like, kind of all the surrounding suburbs. If you. When you were. When we were growing up, if you wanted to go, like, hang out, you'd go into Princeton because they had, like, restaurants.

[Eldest (Stavi)]

Right, right, right, right, right.

[Zach Cherry]

No, it's very, very fancy.

[Eldest (Stavi)]

Did you go to college? Did you go to, like, print. Did you go to, like, any. You go to fancy college?

[Zach Cherry]

I went to Amherst College, so kind of.

[Eldest (Stavi)]

Okay. Yeah. That's in Boston or what?

[Zach Cherry]

It's out. It's, like, two hours outside of Boston.

[Eldest (Stavi)]

Oh, okay. Yeah. Interesting. Continued your improv career. Improv career.

[Zach Cherry]

That was actually genuinely a. A part of why I chose Ambers. They had. They had an improv team.

[Eldest (Stavi)]

They're looking at the improv teams, dude.

[Zach Cherry]

I swear to God.

[Eldest (Stavi)]

They added.

[Zach Cherry]

I mean, it was also, at the time, the number one ranked college.

[Eldest (Stavi)]

It was number one. I did.

[Zach Cherry]

They had an improv team that performed every week. Okay. And I liked that.

[Eldest (Stavi)]

You like that you get direct schools.

[Zach Cherry]

It was like, once a quarter. Whatever, whatever.

[Eldest (Stavi)]

You can't keep this man off the stage.

[Zach Cherry]

I. I was. Who's line bound.

[Eldest (Stavi)]

You were hungry, dude.

[Zach Cherry]

Yeah.

[Eldest (Stavi)]

You're watching. You're watching Whose line? You're like mockery. I'm coming for your ass, Wayne Brady. There's a new sheriff in town, motherfucker.

[Zach Cherry]

And I didn't. It didn't last long enough for me to get there.

[Eldest (Stavi)]

Okay.

[Zach Cherry]

Although they did bring it back for a while.

[Eldest (Stavi)]

Whose line?

[Zach Cherry]

I wasn't invited.

[Eldest (Stavi)]

Right, Right. We should start. We should again, do a different. We should steal. Who's.

[Zach Cherry]

You can't just fat.

[Eldest (Stavi)]

Who's. Yeah, yeah. Who's. Yeah. Great minds, dude. You know, it's like, this is like the. You. UFC for riffing. It's, like, different. We came up. You're improv. Yeah. You know what I mean? Stand up, slash. Not getting bullied in Baltimore city public schools, but you. Yeah, we. This. What is podcasting, if not the UFC for riffing? You know what I mean?

[Zach Cherry]

It's a beautiful way.

[Eldest (Stavi)]

So beautiful. Yeah. That's so funny. All right, nice. Then you get out of Amherst. Come back, come back. And then a UCB to do improv. Yeah, dude. And then it is awesome that there exists something where you probably. People were, like, scared when you were walking around and, like, treated you, like, with reverence.

[Zach Cherry]

Not really.

[Eldest (Stavi)]

Come on. They did.

[Zach Cherry]

I didn't. I also didn't really like hang out, like, right.

[Eldest (Stavi)]

That's probably more powerful because when you were around, they're like, oh, Zach, I'm just gonna. He's gonna blow me off the stage. Because the thing is that is how those dorks think about like this. Improv people are hilariously.

[Zach Cherry]

They are competitive. Yes. There is a lot more than stand up.

[Eldest (Stavi)]

You'd think stand ups are like. I mean, I mean, like, I do feel like improv people pretend to be friends and would stab each other in the back.

[Zach Cherry]

There's a lot of like petty high school type shit in. In that world. But I mostly was. I wasn't around. You're floating.

[Eldest (Stavi)]

You're Dr. Manhattan, dude. They're all mortals. You're fucking floating around getting ready to riff.

[Zach Cherry]

I also had like a full time job while I was like coming up doing improv. So I wasn't. I didn't want to like hang out. I wanted to clock in, put in, put in my time.

[Eldest (Stavi)]

Yep.

[Zach Cherry]

Doing the most beautiful art form in the world. A lot of people say it's sort of the most free, of course. And representative of the human spirit.

[Eldest (Stavi)]

Of course. It's definitely not.

[Zach Cherry]

Stand up is sort. You kind of have to repeat yourself.

[Eldest (Stavi)]

Definitely not a warm up activity for real art.

[Zach Cherry]

You have to pretend that you're just thinking of this stuff as you're saying it.

[Eldest (Stavi)]

Meanwhile, might say you're refining your art form instead of just making up.

[Zach Cherry]

Meanwhile, I connect with the people there and this show wouldn't have happened without them. But stand up is fine. Stand up is good. But you know a lot of people, right. I think improv is.

[Eldest (Stavi)]

Improv is. Yeah, they definitely don't think it's an acting exercise that people have stretched out way too fucking thin. That's for sure.

[Zach Cherry]

I mean, layup lines are an exercise for. For the NBA, right?

[Eldest (Stavi)]

You know, it's like, would you watch televised layup lines? That's what. That's a great. Actually thank you, Zach. That's actually a perfect analogy. Would you pay to watch people do layup lines?

[Zach Cherry]

Hold on, Sorry.

[Eldest (Stavi)]

Let's put improv is.

[Zach Cherry]

Sorry, hold on. What I meant is I meant to say layup lines. Stand up is layup.

[Eldest (Stavi)]

Nice try, dude. And scene. Got your ass.

[Zach Cherry]

I'm gonna get destroyed in the, in the improv group chats. So they sent me here specifically to defend our art.

[Eldest (Stavi)]

The Trojan horse. Me.

[Zach Cherry]

The whole first 30 minutes I was sitting here waiting. Like, when are we gonna defend improv?

[Eldest (Stavi)]

When I'm gon. The layup line analogy. You crafted See, dude, that's what happens when you plan. An improviser must be free. And I've taught you a lesson about your own art form.

[Zach Cherry]

You did. I. I should have arrived here with quiet mind.

[Eldest (Stavi)]

And, you know, I didn't let you zip zap Z. That's what did it, dude.

[Zach Cherry]

You didn't.

[Eldest (Stavi)]

I didn't let you.

[Zach Cherry]

Kind of walked right in and got started. I was like, are we not gonna.

[Eldest (Stavi)]

Are we not gonna feel our bodies in the space? No, no. Obviously, stand up is incredibly. We both do incredibly embarrassing things.

[Zach Cherry]

What do you do before a show? What do you do to warm up?

[Eldest (Stavi)]

Oh, dude, I saw Mitch and Zach. And Zach. You're Zach. I saw Mitch and Gabris. Mitch, Gabrius, and Weiger. I went to the Doughboy show in D.C. and they went up to each other. We're like, whatever. Whatever happens up there, I have your back.

[Zach Cherry]

Your back. That's an improv.

[Eldest (Stavi)]

And I was like, you guys have to be fucking kidding. No, it's a beautiful. You guys. Beautiful, brother. We're not going into war, you fucking pussy. We're about to go podcast on stage. Yeah.

[Zach Cherry]

But we're gonna change people's lives out there, and we take that responsibility seriously.

[Eldest (Stavi)]

That's the thing.

[Zach Cherry]

It's like, they were serious. It's a magic trick. What we do is a magic trick. People can't believe what they're seeing.

[Eldest (Stavi)]

That's true, man. You know what? You got me there. I respect improv and have five of

[Zach Cherry]

the last nine shows I've done been bad, even though I've been doing it since fifth grade. Y. But that's why it's fun.

[Eldest (Stavi)]

That's what's beautiful.

[Zach Cherry]

It's like nascar.

[Eldest (Stavi)]

Yeah.

[Zach Cherry]

You're there for the car crashing.

[Eldest (Stavi)]

Yeah, of course.

[Zach Cherry]

And I will give you one.

[Eldest (Stavi)]

I can't wait to get to the point. This is the beauty of stand up is, like, that happens, but it's like. Then you convince yourself you're a genius when you start bombing. You're like, actually, I'm just too fucking ahead of the curve.

[Zach Cherry]

I actually, unfortunately, kind of have reached that point where I. When I bomb, I'm like, this is better than doing good.

[Eldest (Stavi)]

Yeah. Oh, no, dude. Yeah, like, you're telling it like, doing

[Zach Cherry]

good is kind of normal for me.

[Eldest (Stavi)]

Yeah, that's slash devotion. Yeah.

[Zach Cherry]

That kind of feels nice.

[Eldest (Stavi)]

That's artistically interesting to me. Killing is nothing. Killing is old hat. That is so funny. You were doing it. You're about to start postmodern improv, dude. You're about to do the next. People have seen.

[Zach Cherry]

The last few times I've been up there, I've been doing it.

[Eldest (Stavi)]

All right. Now you're actually. Now I'm interested. Go check out Zach. You'll never know when he's performing. And he's probably telling people to keep his name off the website, but. Yeah, just do that. Yeah. I love that dude. Just absolutely fighting getting famous as much as you can. Well, good luck, pal. It's not gonna work. We should fucking take some calls. What do you say, Eldest, do it. Yeah. I'm glad. I can't wait for you to help the people. This is good. And I. We. This is the point where we plug things. But what we're gonna say to say is, stop looking for Zach. We're doing a reverse plug.

[Zach Cherry]

Yes.

[Eldest (Stavi)]

He does not want to be seen. Stop trying to find him. I guess. See the stuff he's been in.

[Zach Cherry]

You know what I would like to plug. If you could put as much misinformation about me out there.

[Eldest (Stavi)]

Okay. All right.

[Zach Cherry]

As possible so people can't even find me.

[Eldest (Stavi)]

Oh, I like that.

[Zach Cherry]

That would be appreciated.

[Eldest (Stavi)]

Yeah. Zach is from Trinidad and Tobago.

[Zach Cherry]

Sure. I guarantee you there's a bunch of people there who think I'm their cousin.

[Eldest (Stavi)]

So it's.

[Zach Cherry]

That's fine. It's fine.

[Eldest (Stavi)]

That's right. His. His father played Sega, not Nintendo.

[Zach Cherry]

Yes.

[Eldest (Stavi)]

That's the kind of.

[Zach Cherry]

Famously. Yeah, famously.

[Eldest (Stavi)]

His dad was a big Sonic guy.

[Zach Cherry]

My dad does know how to use Google alerts, so he probably will see this and he will be mad about that.

[Eldest (Stavi)]

I take it back, Mr. Cherry. You love Nintendo. Be like, I didn't play Sega. What are you talking about?

[Zach Cherry]

What was that guy talking?

[Eldest (Stavi)]

That guy. I've become your father's sworn enemy now.

[Zach Cherry]

Now he would like you more than me.

[Eldest (Stavi)]

Bring him around, dude. We'll do. We should do family. Family pods. I'm not joking.

[Zach Cherry]

My dad would love to come on this show.

[Eldest (Stavi)]

Dude, bring dad.

[Zach Cherry]

He is very funny and he thinks

[Eldest (Stavi)]

he's funnier than he is awesome. That's actually so sick. I can't wait. Actually, this is a good thing, cuz imagine have. And then Mitch and his mom.

[Zach Cherry]

I would. I would.

[Eldest (Stavi)]

That would be awesome.

[Zach Cherry]

And my dad would be. Honestly, it would go to his head.

[Eldest (Stavi)]

It would.

[Zach Cherry]

It would change our relationship forever.

[Eldest (Stavi)]

But I'd be. Your dad's going to come on the show more than you. He's. He's going to come do, like, Patreon episodes. He's gonna do Kush Brothers. We're gonna smoke weed and do the news with your dad, folks. Don't you hate these loyalty status programs with their byzantine rules you don't even really know. It's not really aligned with the way you're actually spending your money. Have you ever heard of Cash App Green? Perhaps when you spend at least $500 a month with the Cash App card or Cash App Pay, you earn green status unlocking benefits like up to $200 of free overdraft cards, coverage higher borrow limits, and custom personalized cash back offers. I love Cash App Pay. It's very easy, don't need to carry around a bunch of shit. You can use your it's right on your phone. Tap it right there. I recently enjoyed a delicious burrito thanks to Cash App Pay in many ways. CashAppay put a put al pastor and guacamole in my belly. I love it. You can draw directly on the card to create a, you know, unique custom design.

[Zach Cherry]

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[Eldest (Stavi)]

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[Zach Cherry]

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[Eldest (Stavi)]

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[Morgan Stewart]

Hi, Stevie. Eldest. Esteemed guests love you guys. Listen, every week. Savvy, you're live love. It makes me so happy. Anyway, I have. I need some advice or maybe more an opinion. So when I met my boyfriend, he had a dog already. He just got his dog like nine months before he and I met. Like, I love this dog. I love this dog so much. I love him as if he's my own. And I'm glad I'm here. Up until now, we're. We've been together nine years and I've never. He's never asked me to pay for or to help pay for his vet bills. Now I do a lot for this dog. Like I said. I just. I love him so much. And it's so strange that for the first time in nine years or this is the first time he's asking me when I just started grad school, so obviously, like, I'm not working that much. I'm not bringing in a lot of revenue. And. Oh, and also I have my own kid.

[Eldest (Stavi)]

Oh, shit. Okay. That is relevant.

[Morgan Stewart]

Have to pay for whatever clothes, school trips, whatever he needs. Right?

[Eldest (Stavi)]

Yeah, we know.

[Morgan Stewart]

And I never asked my partner to help me pay or to pay at all, so. So when he asked me to chip in, I said I can't really commit to that right now because I am in school and I've got my kid. Like, I've got a. Like I'm on this budget. And besides which, he makes three times more than I do.

[Eldest (Stavi)]

Holy shit. What the fuck?

[Morgan Stewart]

Salary wise.

[Eldest (Stavi)]

And that's all kind of all we need to know. Is there more Eldest?

[Morgan Stewart]

He doesn't. I don't know if he really needs that help. He just kind of wants it. What do you think? I would. If I could, I would contribute, but this is a hard time right now.

[Eldest (Stavi)]

All right, we got it for me? Yeah.

[Zach Cherry]

I'm really glad I'm here for this.

[Eldest (Stavi)]

Yeah. Please. Zach, do you have something?

[Zach Cherry]

No. I want to hear your. I know we've discussed our Opinions on dogs.

[Eldest (Stavi)]

Yes, that's true.

[Zach Cherry]

You have your immigrant sensibilities regarding dogs.

[Eldest (Stavi)]

Really do not.

[Zach Cherry]

So let's hear what you have to say about this.

[Eldest (Stavi)]

Okay. I'm gonna take myself out of this, right? This is not about me. We're talking about our friend. If this was me, I would, yeah, I'd be like, I don't, I mean, whatever. Look, I'll take myself out of this, right. For this woman, a couple things are interesting here. She's dating someone for, she said nine years. Nine years. Nine years is a, like, I, I guess my first question is, what's going on on here? She's got a kid. They've been together nine years. You're talking about this as if it's like, like, do you guys live together? What's the long term plan? How serious is it? Because I would say before knowing about the payment disparities, I would say asking you to go half on a pet is in some ways signs that you're getting closer together.

[Zach Cherry]

Right.

[Eldest (Stavi)]

And so in some ways it's a sign that, like, oh, this is serious. We're essentially a married couple. Couple. Or we're working our way towards. Yeah. Like our lives have just been intertwined objectively. And hey, now that this is where we feel comfortable in this relationship. If we were two people making the same amount and we both love the dog, we both. This has kind of become a part of our lives. It's not crazy to ask a partner to chip in for a dog that you've been. Your shared. Exactly at this point that when you met him, it was, it was a puppy. But you've been with the dog for nine years. Years, right? Dog, yeah.

[Zach Cherry]

And the dog is kind of probably on its way to the multiplier.

[Eldest (Stavi)]

That is true. We don't know how big the dog, you know, big dog. It's not lasting long. True. So I would say in a vacuum, if that's the problem, I would say this isn't a crazy ask. You guys have been together for a while. You're just kind of melding your life together. This might even be a sign that he wants to take things more seriously. But, but first of all, I'm curious on how serious this relationship is. Is it like a lovers thing where you're dating but you both have, you know, you're busy, you have a kid, he's got some high paying job, you don't see anybody else, but you guys keep it. You have a non traditional relationship that works for you where you both kind of keep your life separate. That's one possibility. So I'm like. And even in that case, then I'm like, well, he should really then just take care of his dog if that's the case. Case, Right.

[Zach Cherry]

Is the dog the only thing that you're now kind of right.

[Eldest (Stavi)]

Do you live together? How much spend. How much time do you spend together?

[Zach Cherry]

Yeah.

[Eldest (Stavi)]

Is the dog your only shared thing? And, and if that's the case, that's kind of weird. But ultimately I would say, like, if, you know, you're still in the right and you shouldn't pay anything, in that case, it's kind of strange for him to, to be the one who, who to introduce this because hey, if, if now the floodgates are open for our shared stuff, it's like, is there other stuff he should be chipping in on? Whatever. But now the, the, the instructive part for me that actually overrides all this is he makes three times what she makes. Yeah. That's crazy. And you said it also.

[Zach Cherry]

Oh, right, I have. Oh, like that was sort of a late in the, in the call.

[Eldest (Stavi)]

Totally. And by the way, he's been. I guess that's another thing. He's been in this kid's life nine years.

[Zach Cherry]

Years.

[Eldest (Stavi)]

Presumably the kid. Yeah.

[Zach Cherry]

Predates the relationship.

[Eldest (Stavi)]

Right, Right. Right. That, that'd be awesome if it didn't.

[Zach Cherry]

We don't know.

[Eldest (Stavi)]

That'd be awesome if it did. She's got a four year old by somebody else and it's like. Or maybe she just had a kid with somebody else and he's like. And he's just the most passive aggressive guy. He's like, pay for half the dog food. He's mad she cheated on him at

[Zach Cherry]

a kid, but won't bring that up.

[Eldest (Stavi)]

Like, I need money for kibble. That would be really funny. But presumably that's not the case.

[Zach Cherry]

No, I doubt.

[Eldest (Stavi)]

Doubt it. So I like that guy though. That guy would be awesome. Like buy milk bones or what? And put them on the counter. Okay, so I guess that's my. Oh, that's my question. It's like this to me feels like a really good opportunity to take stock of your relationship because what you're describing makes no sense to me.

[Zach Cherry]

It is confusing.

[Eldest (Stavi)]

I have no handle on what the is going on. How committed is he to your kid? Like we're talking about.

[Zach Cherry]

Yeah.

[Eldest (Stavi)]

You've been around his dog for nine years. He's been around your kid for nine years.

[Zach Cherry]

I mean, it is. And it is crazy to say, like, I know you need to use this money for kids Stuff, of course.

[Eldest (Stavi)]

Yeah.

[Zach Cherry]

Johnny. For my dog.

[Eldest (Stavi)]

But my dog's coat isn't looking as lustrous as usual. Yeah, I'd love to get my dog red light therapy. Could your kid not get new glasses this year? Year. So anyway, that's my big like. Okay, if we're just gonna do the facts of the case three times as much. It's crazy for him to ask you that. Then my spidey senses are like, why is he asking you that? Is it an. An honest like, hey, I want us to meld our lives together, but I don't want to have the conversation. So we're. I'm just kind of like. Like, is that the case? In which case, let's talk about where our relationship is going. But to me, me, this is a really good moment for you to be like, hey, what is our relationship?

[Zach Cherry]

Yeah, that makes sense.

[Eldest (Stavi)]

What's going on here?

[Zach Cherry]

You've. You've come down a lot more reasonably than I intentionally.

[Eldest (Stavi)]

You thought I was gonna say.

[Zach Cherry]

I'm glad. I'm glad. The dogs.

[Eldest (Stavi)]

My dog. All right. If I had a dog, it's not coming in my room. Like, I think it's. People are gonna be so mad at me. I just think dogs should be outside. They should be eating your leftovers. If a dog needs surgery, the dog is dead. As far. You know, like, if a dog needs surgery.

[Zach Cherry]

Oh, no, give it.

[Eldest (Stavi)]

Feed it wagyu until it dies. But I'm not spending two grand on a dog. That's my stance.

[Zach Cherry]

Two grand.

[Eldest (Stavi)]

Oh, how much for me?

[Zach Cherry]

That's. We're racking that up pretty quick on my. On my dog.

[Eldest (Stavi)]

Maybe I would now because I haven't enough money, but, like, when I was broke, I'm not spending money.

[Zach Cherry]

I didn't have a dog until I.

[Eldest (Stavi)]

Okay, that's fair. It's a luxury thing anyway. That's. I do have an immigrant sensibility on dogs. People know this. If I were to speak. If I were to make my notes really clear about the Michael Vick situation, people would be very upset at me if they knew how I really felt in my heart. Right? And I'm not putting. I'm not putting that out there. I'm. I'm not. I'm not. I'm not on record about that. Right?

[Zach Cherry]

But.

[Eldest (Stavi)]

But. But in this case, I can put all that aside and be an objective. This is not about the dog. This is. This could be his. This could be anything. That. The guy.

[Zach Cherry]

Yeah, it is weird that it's about the dog. Now. My first instinct, of course, kids Nine years old, he could get a job and start to chip in, start to

[Eldest (Stavi)]

chip in for this dog.

[Zach Cherry]

I assume the dog is friendly with the kids.

[Eldest (Stavi)]

Probably more than nine. I'm sure she wasn't.

[Zach Cherry]

Right.

[Eldest (Stavi)]

Probably a 12 year old at least, something like that.

[Zach Cherry]

You know, I think this is possibly a beautiful learning opportunity.

[Eldest (Stavi)]

Give the kids some responsibility, work, get it out of school. Have it be a full time dog tender.

[Zach Cherry]

Sure, yeah. Because you know, honestly, skills based jobs is really where we're heading. Get into a, a vet tech program now.

[Eldest (Stavi)]

You start at 12, start a dog walking business at 12.

[Zach Cherry]

You're, you're good.

[Eldest (Stavi)]

Scale up 10x.

[Zach Cherry]

That actually is something. AI guy probably won't touch. Dog care.

[Eldest (Stavi)]

Dog care. That's true. Yeah. Have your kid, have your kid look after your boyfriend's dog for a living. That's our advice. But yeah, look, make a figure out what's going on here. I'd actually love to talk to this person on a live call. See if you can, you know, see if we can get them for something.

[Zach Cherry]

And let's get more details about the dog. Some pictures, maybe there's any videos of the dog running around having fun. Yes, I'd like to see those. I don't.

[Eldest (Stavi)]

Listen, I'd like to see those too. It's just. I don't want. Anyway, it doesn't matter.

[Caller/Guest]

Matter.

[Eldest (Stavi)]

I think dogs are. I'm not anti dog. I just think we pamper them too much in America, that's all. But you know, you, you have a, a cute dog named Shrek.

[Zach Cherry]

I do. I almost wore. I have a. My mother in law got me a shirt that has my dog on it and a little heartbeat thing and I almost wore today just to piss you off about.

[Eldest (Stavi)]

Yeah, about how much. Yeah, people love their dogs too much. But anyway, whatever, it's fine. It's fine. There's nothing to interrogate. The people spend thousands of dollars on their dogs. But there's homeless people everywhere in America. Not. That's not.

[Zach Cherry]

I didn about that.

[Eldest (Stavi)]

I'm just, I don't find that.

[Zach Cherry]

I'm just hearing about that and I'm

[Eldest (Stavi)]

going to adjust my spending.

[Zach Cherry]

All you're saying all over America.

[Eldest (Stavi)]

All over America. All I'm saying is I have the high ground when I ignore a homeless.

[Zach Cherry]

Maybe we have a housing supply issue because the podcasting studios are filling up

[Eldest (Stavi)]

spare bedrooms across Queens filled with podcasting equipment.

[Zach Cherry]

We have four of these peppered in each burrow just in case you need to.

[Eldest (Stavi)]

I do right now have three spaces that are technically a podcast Studio. We're going to get that down to one, folks. Anyway, good luck. Good luck, sister.

[Zach Cherry]

Oh.

[Eldest (Stavi)]

Oh no. What the hell is going on? I'm scared, Eldis. I'm scared. Is it time to keep it twisted? Oh, holy. What the hell?

[Zach Cherry]

There's no shot this bits on my helmet.

[Eldest (Stavi)]

Wow, look at that. It fits my head. Holy big ass hat. Oh, it's time for the twisted ass up. Question of the week.

[Zach Cherry]

This isn't even on the. On the furthest setting fit on my head.

[Eldest (Stavi)]

Twisted T is an ally to the plus size community.

[Zach Cherry]

Beautiful.

[Eldest (Stavi)]

Look at that. Let's can we Twisted D. Can we get a hat for Zach please? For Emmy nominated actor Zach Cherry. Beautiful.

[Zach Cherry]

I haven't been able to put on an off the rack hat in 10 years.

[Eldest (Stavi)]

I mean that's the best advertising we're going to do for Twisted Te.

[Zach Cherry]

Beautiful.

[Eldest (Stavi)]

And we have the ass up. Question of the week, Eldis, go ahead please.

[Morgan Stewart]

Themed guest. Big fan, medium amount of time listener. I just found out that my boyfriend used to be in like, like a semi serious is relationship with a porn star. Keep it twisted.

[Eldest (Stavi)]

He's keeping it twisted as hell.

[Morgan Stewart]

So insecure. One of his friends mentioned it like on accident in passing. We didn't really talk about it for a while because he said he didn't want me to know and like we don't really talk about our exes.

[Eldest (Stavi)]

That's.

[Morgan Stewart]

But I have no idea what to do. I have no idea what to do now because it makes me so, so insecure about myself. Like I don't feel professionally, you know, like she is the Roger Federer effect. Also I looked her up because of course I did. She's not like, oh, she's done only fans a couple times. Like she's like a porn star. Like rather 350k followers on Instagram. Like a star. And so it's like, yeah, you know, I don't. There's no way I'm as good

[Zach Cherry]

trying to figure.

[Morgan Stewart]

Also our bodies are like really different. Like she's like five two and like giant tits. Like natural 36 H's which is crazy. I'm like five eight.

[Zach Cherry]

I'm.

[Morgan Stewart]

I'm more of an ass gal. I'm Puerto Rican, so I'm a great ass. I can't lie. But like my kids are cute. They're cute. They're not life changing. They're like a solid low level C.

[Eldest (Stavi)]

She's talking about C's being a problem

[Morgan Stewart]

differently and proportioned so differently that it's like how could you be with someone with that body and also enjoy my body. Like he probably just doesn't enjoy it as much. And then like this whole like I'm not, I'm not ugly. I don't think I'm ugly.

[Eldest (Stavi)]

I was like, oh my God, this

[Morgan Stewart]

is like a big party pool. Like I grew up pretty hot. I've never thought of myself as like gross.

[Eldest (Stavi)]

You're probably very beautiful.

[Morgan Stewart]

Like the social capital aspect of like dating a porn star as a guy like you kind of just can't compete with that.

[Eldest (Stavi)]

You know

[Morgan Stewart]

how hot I am. I'm never going to be someone who is professionally hot.

[Eldest (Stavi)]

Who you like porn stars are.

[Morgan Stewart]

Brag to your friends about, you know,

[Eldest (Stavi)]

you're thinking of a model.

[Morgan Stewart]

I don't know what to do with this information. Have more conversations with him about it going to make me look insecure as so what do I do?

[Eldest (Stavi)]

Well it's very funny that society has gone so far. Like maybe we are too progressive because it's like, it's like one thing to not dis. Look, we should not disrespect sex workers. We should not, we should not think of porn stars as someone who's not deserving of real relationships. But we also shouldn't pretend that someone who's not a sex worker can't compete with dating a porn star. Because yes, there's possibilities, positives but there you could argue there might be some negatives to that.

[Zach Cherry]

I'm not sure society is there yet.

[Eldest (Stavi)]

That might be a particular. Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah.

[Zach Cherry]

Neuroses sure is very understandable.

[Eldest (Stavi)]

Understandable but, but like don't sweat it, don't sweat it. Like here's the thing. You don't have to be professionally. First of all he's attract you. He wants to be. He thinks you're hot. Clearly. Also some I have a problem with and I. This is the type. This is something I face. A discrimination I face is that yes, I'm on record as loving big fat Jugs, but I like all jugs.

[Zach Cherry]

That's right.

[Eldest (Stavi)]

And, and also someone could be hiding that can down. Why is it blocking me a little partially. Why don't you say something sooner, you idiot. This thing's been going five minutes anyway. Whatever, dumbass. I would say look, he, he, he dated like are there's you just happen to know about the person he dated that's going to make you insecure. Right? You've learned this information. There's people you've dated that would probably make him insecure.

[Zach Cherry]

But I think you gotta, you gotta take this as a win. Like Even if you're gonna think about it on your terms of like, you're, you're who he's choosing now.

[Eldest (Stavi)]

Right?

[Zach Cherry]

So you, you actually are, are what he wants. Want. Like, if I found out my wife used to date who's the funniest guy in history, Woody Allen? I would be like, that's awesome. Right, Right. You know, I'm the guy who got right, you know, like.

[Eldest (Stavi)]

Right.

[Zach Cherry]

So I think you can, you gotta take this as a, as a big.

[Eldest (Stavi)]

I think this is a W for flip it. I think, like, that actually is a good, good point. That it's, you know, you're in, that you're in the league. You're, you're, you're in a sisterhood with this woman. Yes. And also it's like, look, people date a lot of people and sometimes some people that are. And look, I'm not even gonna say maybe this guy, obviously he was very attracted to this person, but sometimes it's like this. Actually, you know what this is? This is the flip that usually only men have to deal with. This is the flip side of the term boyfriend dick. Have you heard that term where they're like, they're like, oh, your dick is. You have the perfect boyfriend dick because it's not too big. It's like a used. It's like a dick for day to day. Right. And that's something that women have said as a compliment.

[Zach Cherry]

That's something. If I got the surgery, then I

[Eldest (Stavi)]

would, Then you could get. Yeah, then you could get the boyfriend dick. Yeah, sure, sure, I'd love to get there. But the thought process is, oh, you have a day to day dick. The kind of dick I can build a life with. Right. I don't want one of those big, big, you know, show off huge cocks I gotta do. You know, I gotta do like stretches afterwards, whatever. Yeah, Women usually don't deal with that. You could argue the flip side of, of that. Like a, a woman dating a porn, a male porn star, that's just hot. Like, the flip side of that would be, you know, if I met somebody who was dating somebody who was, who had a huge hog, I would maybe would be a little insured, but I would also be like, well, she pro. That's not who she wanted to be with all the time. That was probably a fling in her life. Who knows how long it was. And, and you know, this is the equivalent of like. Yes, you're not shaped. You don't look, you don't whatever as a porn star with huge jugs or Whatever. Like, that's not you, but you are also. You're. You're also hot. And you're hot in a way that he wants to settle down and build a life with. Right.

[Zach Cherry]

And I will also say, I think a lot of it probably is coming from, like, you know, if he was dating someone who looked exactly the same but wasn't a porn star.

[Eldest (Stavi)]

Right.

[Zach Cherry]

It wouldn't be as crazy making. I think the fact that she, like, has this profile, she has all these people following her, that's probably part of it, too, because, like, all of that is. Is bleeding into your perception of her. Whereas if this was someone who had the identical body and was just a person.

[Eldest (Stavi)]

Yeah.

[Zach Cherry]

It probably wouldn't feel as. You know, you wouldn't feel as insecure about it. So, like, I think that's a lot of baggage that it makes sense.

[Eldest (Stavi)]

It's double. It's like you. You are dealing with both somebody dating somebody famous. Yes. And good at. And good at. And a body type that, like, you know. And look, I'll say that. Yes. This is. She is. Let's see. She. What did you say? Lance Armstrong? Who did you say?

[Zach Cherry]

Roger.

[Eldest (Stavi)]

Roger Federer. Or let's just say, pretty good. That's a good one, and that's awesome.

[Zach Cherry]

But it was kind of known as being a little bit kind of like.

[Eldest (Stavi)]

You sure. The flashiest. Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah.

[Zach Cherry]

But listen, he's kind of a lunch pail legend.

[Eldest (Stavi)]

Yeah.

[Zach Cherry]

But he showed up and put in.

[Eldest (Stavi)]

That's awesome. But here's. Here's what I'll say. Is your boyfriend Nadal, can he. Can he put up with federal question? Because let's. Look, I might have. Let's say I have a little firsthand experience in this realm. Somebody who does porn feels like you're like, I feel like I'm a guy playing Roger. Imagine what it would look like, me trying to play Roger Federer. I'm not in that league.

[Zach Cherry]

Right.

[Eldest (Stavi)]

It's a little overwhelming. I can't keep up.

[Zach Cherry]

It shouldn't have been sanctioned by the athletic commission.

[Eldest (Stavi)]

Yeah, yeah. It's like. It's like he did. He can't keep up. And it's like, yeah, maybe it was a thrill, but he was at fantasy camp. And he's like, this is not who I am. You know what I mean? Can your boyfriend. Professionally. Can he put up with that? And also, also, it's like, there's just. You just don't know anything about. You're also kind of putting these people up on a pedestal that they're not regular People. She was.

[Zach Cherry]

She's just.

[Eldest (Stavi)]

At the end day, she's just a person.

[Zach Cherry]

Right.

[Eldest (Stavi)]

Has her own problems and how somebody looks and even the stuff you're thinking of as positives, it could probably take a toll on somebody. Like, it's not fun to date someone who is like. Like famous or like, you know, or. Or like, there's so many negatives that come with this that it's like, you know, it's just, you're. You're over. I really think you're overthinking this.

[Zach Cherry]

Definitely.

[Eldest (Stavi)]

Here's the person he wants to be with. We all have people in our past that, you know, would make a partner insecure if they knew about the details. It just so happens you get to. There's, you know, there's a lot of stuff on the Internet that makes you. That you can remind that shows you exactly what you're insecure about. I think. Think now in terms of, like, advice for this. I don't even think you need to talk to your boyfriend about it. You know what I mean? It's like, I think this is just something you need to understand as, like, any ex. This is kind of why asking about body count X's, what do you really gain from it?

[Zach Cherry]

But I do. I think it would be, you know, I'm thinking of if I was this guy. I would probably want to hear that you were feeling this so that I could reassure you.

[Eldest (Stavi)]

Right.

[Zach Cherry]

And be like, that's not who I

[Eldest (Stavi)]

want to be with. So, like, oh, that's interesting. I would.

[Zach Cherry]

I would want to know that you were feeling this way because then I would be like that. I mean, I'm sorry you're feeling away, but that, like, I'm with you for.

[Eldest (Stavi)]

Right, right, right, right, right. Yeah. And I guess this. This also goes to how. What's the rest of the relationship like? Yeah. You know, because is this somebody that you see with, like, having a real. Do you see this as something that could be, like, long term? Because if that's the case, then, yeah. Maybe have a conversation about it. Be like. Like, hey, I just want you to know, you know, may I get why you didn't tell me? Because we didn't. It's not like. It's not like when you date someone, you go through an itemized list of who you. That's insane. Or even who you've dated. You're like, I get why you didn't tell me, but I'm just feeling a little insecure. Can we have, like, a conversation about it? I don't even Know, like, yeah, I guess if it was me, I'd be like, you know, I just happen to date her. It also shows that this guy is kind of open minded in some ways, you know, that, that like he does, he does just see a hot, a hot ass sex worker as a person he would date and not just a pure object of lust, perhaps. So, you know, may. If you want to have. If it's something that's really. If you see this as, as a serious relationship and something you want to work through, there's nothing wrong with having the conversation being like, hey, maybe if you've noticed me being kind of weird. Yeah, this just because that's what, that's really what you're doing. You're almost like explaining what's going on with you where you, you're like, this is just what happened. And if you work through it and

[Zach Cherry]

then he's weird about it, then you've short you, you, you fast forwarded and you've got that information now.

[Eldest (Stavi)]

Yeah, that's actually a good point. It's like having the conversation also just shows like how he handles with any, how he would handle any difficult, weird conversation. If he's understanding, if he reassures you, if he lets you know, then you got a winner. If you're, if he's like, he's bringing up. Yeah, he's like, yes, she was awesome. God, I wish you would text me back so I don't have to these frumpy Puerto Ricans anymore. If he does that, then, yeah, maybe that's not your husband. But if he's like, if he's like, come on. No, no, no, we just dated. It was, you know, it was a fling. I love you so much like this. I don't even, don't think like that for a second, you know? And he might tell you like the, the flip side of dating somebody who's in the public eye who's like, you know, there's, there's, there are negatives. So I would just say all of it evens out. And you choose people for what, who you want to be with. And he's with you now. So I would say take it. You know, it's beautiful. It's beautiful right now. It's mid April. Take him outside. You know what I mean? Hit a, hit a picnic table and get an ice cold twisted tea. Share, reunite. Like almost like rededicate your love by sharing. Maybe a raspberry ice cold twisted tea.

[Zach Cherry]

Or perhaps a peach.

[Eldest (Stavi)]

Perhaps peach. Peach it is. You know, Pete, it's out there. It's It's. That's a spring fruit.

[Zach Cherry]

Or of course original.

[Eldest (Stavi)]

Original. Or half and half. You could share a whole game day pack amongst you. That's beautiful. Drink. Responsible. They're all. They're all so good. It's hard to make a decision. So yeah, that's the. That's the twisted ass. Motherfucking ass. Twisted. Question of the week sponsored by Twisted Tea and shout out to, you know, to you and the girl that you're asking your ex or your current partner you date. Holy. We're getting the. We're getting into the regular zone.

[Zach Cherry]

I didn't know if you did it both.

[Eldest (Stavi)]

You're right. You're right. No, thank you. You reminded me. Yeah, she sounds hot. I mean, our caller sounds hot too, if I'm being completely honest. Sees everyone. She's got a big ass and she has seas and she's like, you're hot also. Relax. Anyway, we covered it. Next question. I just. I'm just now getting horny for both of them.

[Morgan Stewart]

Them.

[Eldest (Stavi)]

I'm like 36h.

[Zach Cherry]

Porn star tit size.

[Eldest (Stavi)]

36h.

[Zach Cherry]

There's actually. I just googled it real fast. There is a directory that's like big titty model or something that. This is the first time you're finding out about it. Yeah, it actually is somehow.

[Eldest (Stavi)]

Okay. Yeah, there is. You're right. There's a lot of them with 36. Damn.

[Zach Cherry]

Hold on, hold on.

[Eldest (Stavi)]

There's a ton of them.

[Zach Cherry]

Big breasted ladies.

[Eldest (Stavi)]

This is awesome, dude. Holy. Yeah, it's actually impossible to find out with just 36h. Who's this lady? I don't know her. Thank you, caller, for this is awesome.

[Zach Cherry]

Holy. For queuing up some of the.

[Eldest (Stavi)]

Dude, you just. The next few sessions. This is kind of sick. Oh, damn.

[Zach Cherry]

We won't put this on.

[Eldest (Stavi)]

Oh, Jesus Christ. Elders. Oh, nice. Damn, those are huge. Anyway, I'm sorry to understand the caller a little more. Yeah.

[Zach Cherry]

But seemed like nice. I know.

[Eldest (Stavi)]

You know?

[Zach Cherry]

No, no. Your tits, your C's are fine. Yeah, big asses are beautiful. If we did the big ass image search, we'd be doing the same thing.

[Eldest (Stavi)]

Of course, of course. Anyway, keep going. Any pornos ever sliding those dms, Zach?

[Zach Cherry]

No, I.

[Eldest (Stavi)]

You're a married man.

[Zach Cherry]

Of course I am a married man. My wife, we. We met because she tweeted at me.

[Eldest (Stavi)]

Wow.

[Zach Cherry]

But not even DM. My DMs were clothes.

[Eldest (Stavi)]

Of course.

[Zach Cherry]

And now I'm not even on any. I'm off.

[Eldest (Stavi)]

All she got while the getting was good.

[Zach Cherry]

I did. Yeah. I completed my Mission.

[Eldest (Stavi)]

Damn, dude. I respect the way you live your life. You a hot girl tweets at you like, this is my wife. I'm never going outside and I'm deleting all social media. Deleting all social media. I have a lot to learn from the way you live, dude. You live the clean version of my life. The godly version of my life. Life. Get a hot woman's attention by your dumb form of comedy immediately.

[Zach Cherry]

I trained since fifth grade to attract my life.

[Eldest (Stavi)]

That's kind of beautiful. Improv is like your version of like one of those stupid mating dances a bird does, you know? Yep. Okay. Respect.

[Zach Cherry]

Came to a show, literally.

[Eldest (Stavi)]

Wow, look at, look at that. That's beautiful, man.

[Caller/Guest]

El, this esteemed guest. So I've got a question that I know for sure you guys can help me with. So I just got a cpap. I, I've always snored. Every partner I've ever had has told me I'm a snorer, whatever. But what finally made me get it was my blood pressures got really high. So, you know, trying to stay healthy and you know, be around for the kids and all that. Got the cpap. I've got a beard and like I said, I snore. I kind of mouth breathe when I sleep. So they put me right in with like the, the over the mouth and nose type mask and I can't, I can't sleep. This is horrible. It gives me panic attacks to wear this. The, the stress of trying to hit like the, the four hours for the insurance so that I don't have to pay even more is also freaking me the out.

[Eldest (Stavi)]

What?

[Caller/Guest]

So like I'm trying to wear it during the day and get used to it that way and then, you know, adapt to it at night later. But like I, I just, I don't know how I'm ever are going to get this to work. So. Yeah, any advice for how to adapt to OCP would be super great. Thanks, buddy. Love you.

[Eldest (Stavi)]

Great question. We had you pick this one for me.

[Zach Cherry]

The.

[Eldest (Stavi)]

We do have two on record CPAP users and a third should be using a CPAP in the room right now.

[Zach Cherry]

This is El, this is called.

[Eldest (Stavi)]

Yeah, Elders. Really?

[Zach Cherry]

Just when did you first see Pap?

[Eldest (Stavi)]

It's been years now. I was thinking about this because I'm like, do I need to get a new machine? Because this I, this is Pre, pre pandemic 2019 maybe 18 even.

[Zach Cherry]

I still had my like regular office job when I got it because I was straight up falling asleep at my desk.

[Eldest (Stavi)]

Yeah, Dude, I would fall asleep driving all the time. I would drive home from D.C. to Baltimore, and I was like. And that's why I was like, maybe I should get. Yeah, yeah, yeah. It's tough. What? What? What? What's your setup, Zach? Do you have it over the nose?

[Zach Cherry]

I have the nose because I also have a beard, so. So you just need to tell them you're not going to wear that kind of mask.

[Eldest (Stavi)]

Yeah.

[Zach Cherry]

I remember when I went in for my study, they were like, yeah, it's got to go over your whole face and mass. Or like, nose and mouth, so you got to shave your beard. And I was like, no. I was like, I'm an actor. I need, like, you know, this is kind of my.

[Eldest (Stavi)]

This is my thing.

[Zach Cherry]

I'm not gonna shave my beard here.

[Eldest (Stavi)]

Yeah.

[Zach Cherry]

And then they're like, oh, well, you have one that just goes on your nose. And I was like, why did you not.

[Eldest (Stavi)]

Why don't we just start with that? Yeah. So, yeah.

[Zach Cherry]

You got to be your own advocate in this situation.

[Eldest (Stavi)]

I think so, too.

[Zach Cherry]

And even, like, I'm not gonna wear that.

[Eldest (Stavi)]

And even you're worrying about the insurance, and, like, you're worried about the wrong stuff. Dude. Think of this as, like, you want to save your life.

[Zach Cherry]

And it will get better.

[Eldest (Stavi)]

It will for sure.

[Zach Cherry]

Like, taking naps with. It is a good idea to just get used to it, like, a couple hours at a time.

[Eldest (Stavi)]

Y. Y.

[Zach Cherry]

But you'll, like, I don't even think about it.

[Eldest (Stavi)]

Totally. In fact, now if I don't, I start getting nervous the opposite way, where it's like, if I don't or, like, if my plans change or, like, yeah. I'll never put my CPAP in my. In checked luggage ever. It's always got to be with me.

[Zach Cherry]

Yeah.

[Eldest (Stavi)]

Because I'm like, I really. At this point, I do not get good sleep without it.

[Zach Cherry]

No, it's terrible.

[Eldest (Stavi)]

So it does get better. I'm also a nose guy, right. So I have my. Right over my nose, even though I don't have a beard. You know, I have. That's. God forced me to live fat with no good beard, which is so up. Because I do see how it really is awesome how, like, there's that. You remember how that viral thing that guy got that had an awesome beard and then they cut his shit. He was fat as. Yeah. That was sad. That was tragedy. Maybe we can insert that in the. In the episode Eldest.

[Zach Cherry]

We got to get in touch with that.

[Eldest (Stavi)]

Like, honestly. Yeah. Yeah, we do. We need to buy him beard growth Seriously Room. They completely nerfed that poor fat man.

[Zach Cherry]

We need to reach out to all the humiliated fat individuals. That is true. Across the Internet and hook them up.

[Eldest (Stavi)]

Yeah. It's like, hey, man, you, you, You've been humiliated as a fat person on the Internet. You can eat burgers with me.

[Zach Cherry]

Yeah.

[Eldest (Stavi)]

Zach Gabrison, Mitch.

[Zach Cherry]

Like how Ellen used to invite on all the, you know, damn, Daniels. We can do that for all the fat viral.

[Eldest (Stavi)]

Only the fat viral ones. Yeah. Yes. It's the first guy. I mean, that's Bruce.

[Zach Cherry]

Brutal, sir.

[Eldest (Stavi)]

That's really tough stuff. You can see in his eyes how he is. He knows. Dude, look how confident he is. He looks so much cooler on the left. It's not. He looks like.

[Zach Cherry]

He looks poor guy like an all pro center. Totally on the left.

[Eldest (Stavi)]

Totally.

[Zach Cherry]

And like a cop.

[Eldest (Stavi)]

Yeah, yeah. Yes, yes, yes, yes. He looks like a racist cop.

[Zach Cherry]

He looks like a racist all pro center. And then on the right, he looks like.

[Eldest (Stavi)]

Yeah. Both guys are into the concept of Valhalla for, for different reasons. But yeah. Poor guy. They nerfed him anyway. So. Yeah, dude. I would say our general advice here is. Yeah, try and go nose. He says a mouth breather. So if you have to tape your mouth, take your mouth, do some.

[Zach Cherry]

No.

[Eldest (Stavi)]

And put it over your nose.

[Zach Cherry]

When I first started wearing it, I straight up, I would sleep. Sleep like with my, with my hands, like to close. On the bottom of my chin to close my mouth. It just like. And now I don't need to do that. But when I first started that. That.

[Eldest (Stavi)]

You'll get used to it. Yeah. I was lucky because I, I, I'm not a mouth breather. So it was, I will say I was just immediately I took to it. I was born to wear a cpap. You know, God knew, like, as a baby I was like destined to have to need a cpap. So I took to it fast as I don't even need the. Cuz you, you can like humidify it.

[Zach Cherry]

I know that's. I don't even.

[Eldest (Stavi)]

I go dry, bro. I go dry. That's how much I love and respect my cpap.

[Zach Cherry]

I will sometimes wake up in the middle of the night and my water has run out during the night and it's. I'm like, I immediately start coughing. My like, nose is burning.

[Eldest (Stavi)]

I'm built for it, dude.

[Zach Cherry]

You live.

[Eldest (Stavi)]

I'm built for this lifestyle, dude. So. Yeah. Yeah, dude, I would say you got. You're trying to stay around for kids. You're trying to do all this shit. Look at it as the medicine is failing, you're just still in the tooling phase of it. Try a different mask. Go back to your doctor. Look at this. You're also a fat man who doesn't think, who doesn't assert himself, who doesn't think he deserves to be heard in this world. That happens a lot. I hear some of that. Being a fat loser creeping up. And understand that you need to advocate for your yourself and look at it as them failing you. Right. Not you can't adapt. It's like, where the is, you know, I have a beard.

[Zach Cherry]

There's always giving me this. There's the ones that, like, just sit on your nose is the ones I

[Eldest (Stavi)]

got the little right around the nose. It works. Keep trying.

[Zach Cherry]

Up and over your head.

[Eldest (Stavi)]

Yeah.

[Zach Cherry]

Also there's all sorts of, like, accessories you can get where like, I have a pillow with a little cutout in the middle so my mask can fit, like, so I can sleep on my, on my belly.

[Eldest (Stavi)]

Yeah. You're. You're operating at level I'm. I've never even thought.

[Zach Cherry]

This is the one thing I like, evangelize about because it legit changed my life.

[Eldest (Stavi)]

Me too.

[Zach Cherry]

So I do stick with it.

[Eldest (Stavi)]

It.

[Zach Cherry]

It makes your life so much better. It's.

[Eldest (Stavi)]

Yeah, yeah, yeah.

[Zach Cherry]

You'll figure it out.

[Eldest (Stavi)]

You just got to stick with it. Don't quit on it. Because I have. I've heard people are like, I just couldn't do it. And what it really is. And, And I kind of had this too, is like, you don't want to think of yourself as a guy who's so fat he needs a device to survive sleep.

[Zach Cherry]

Oh, yeah.

[Eldest (Stavi)]

But unfortunately, you, you are. And you can either be in denial.

[Zach Cherry]

Yes.

[Eldest (Stavi)]

And die earlier or figure it out. You know what I mean? Because I, I know guys who, like, are kind of on the cusp of being fat again. Eldest perfect example. He thinks he's too good for a cpap. He's going to die. He's going to die. It's gonna be sad, as if I outlive you. That's gonna be pathetic. Dude.

[Zach Cherry]

Let me, let me ask you a question. Before you got a cpap, did you notice, did you, like, feel that your sleep was bad? Like, before a sleep study? Were you like, something feels abnormal. Abnormal here or for me. No, I, I. You don't know sleep well. Yeah, but then I would be tired all the time.

[Eldest (Stavi)]

Right?

[Zach Cherry]

But, like, when I woke up, I didn't think, like, oh, man, I got a shitty night's sleep.

[Eldest (Stavi)]

I thought, if anything, I Just thought like, oh, I didn't. I went to bed too late because, like, the hard thing to say is, like, it was hard to tell because my sleep was all over the place. And you thought you're like, oh, I didn't do. I didn't go to bed early. I don't have a. You like, but it is a night and day difference now. Like, now I can tell now. Like, day. Like, there are times where you just, like, you know, you're traveling or you stay somewhere you don't expect to, and you just, like, wake up and it's just like, you know, you don't feel horrible. But compared to a CPAP night sleep, it's just like. Or I would need a lot of sleep to feel. To feel recharged.

[Zach Cherry]

I haven't even. The only time I've had a cpapless night in the last decade. Decade was when I had to get my new machine and they had to do another test and they made me sleep without it. And I was so mad. I just. I just. I keep that thing on me.

[Eldest (Stavi)]

Yeah. All right. Yeah.

[Zach Cherry]

Hey, I don't think I'm too good for it.

[Eldest (Stavi)]

I don't think I'm too skinny. No, no, you literally do.

[Zach Cherry]

It just seems.

[Eldest (Stavi)]

Don't pretend. Don't.

[Zach Cherry]

It's not that bad.

[Eldest (Stavi)]

You really think you're. You think you're better than us. That's what it really is. You don't realize you. You are fat. No matter what you do, if you're

[Zach Cherry]

already married, it removes that element too. You don't have to worry about feeling self conscious about it.

[Eldest (Stavi)]

Exactly. That's what we're saying. That's what we're saying.

[Zach Cherry]

I'm saying, pap up, baby.

[Eldest (Stavi)]

I will say the first year of just like being like, I have a cpap. You know what I mean? It's like, it also, like, I was a little embarrassed to show random women I have a cpap. But then it's like, if you. A guy this fat, you know what's happening. You're not. She's not shocked. I need to see. No woman was like, what?

[Zach Cherry]

And it is better for them because then you're not scream snoring in their ear the whole night. It's a win. Win.

[Eldest (Stavi)]

And they're so. Women are so nice. They're like, oh, it's like a white noise machine. It's like, that's so nice of you to say that. You're hooked. You're. My wife.

[Zach Cherry]

Loves myself anyway.

[Eldest (Stavi)]

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[Caller/Guest]

Hello Stav, eldest and esteemed guest. Thank you for taking my call. I have a question about roommate food and etiquette so I'm a 26 year old professional jazz guitar player in Brooklyn and my roommate is a saxophone player and we have a band together.

[Eldest (Stavi)]

Okay.

[Caller/Guest]

And every month we play at a jazz club in Bushwick that has really amazing like vegan, Mediterranean.

[Eldest (Stavi)]

I think I know about this place.

[Caller/Guest]

So, you know, part of the payment for the gig is that they give us food to take home afterwards. So we always get the hummus because

[Eldest (Stavi)]

the hummus is going good and we

[Caller/Guest]

take it home in one or two days.

[Eldest (Stavi)]

Go to trade school. Kids, even if you're good, you're gonna be paid in baba ganoush. Best case scenario, you get the.

[Zach Cherry]

This.

[Eldest (Stavi)]

I mean, dude, this is when we started talking about how dumb improv and stand up is. It's like, damn, at least we don't fucking play jazz. I feel bad for Timmy. Timmy's get. Timmy a month ago was getting dragged because he said he doesn't want film to end up the way like opera and ballet is gone. Yeah. And everyone's like talk. They. They thought he was talking the art form. But he said saying like something that is unquestionably true, which is that that a. A very valuable art form that was a mass like the masses did enjoy has now become something disrespected niche. It's become a niche that. Yeah. A niche that only the very rich can enjoy. And yeah, I think, I mean, look, and he doesn't need me. He doesn't give a. At all. His life's awesome. Maybe he just want to not. I mean, as we all know, he did not not win the Oscar, but he was nominated. But yeah. Anyway, I think his point, he was making a very valid point, I think. And it's like yes, we need to do whatever we can't. Like it's.

[Zach Cherry]

We need to do whatever we can to save improv and keep improv alive. But anyway, it's disgusting. And having basement.

[Eldest (Stavi)]

Yeah, dude. The sad part, I mean, Timothy J's point is so true because they built opera houses and orchestras that I perform in now. Yeah. I'm shooting my special at a place where fucking the most. Some of the most famous conductors they did do.

[Zach Cherry]

They did do improv at Carnegie Hall. Yeah, that's. That's what, that's where it's.

[Eldest (Stavi)]

That's what it's come to, man. That's sad. That's sad stuff. So anyway, at least even those are not as bad as jazz. Keep going, Elvis. That was my whole point.

[Caller/Guest]

Well, and we take it home and I'll eat my hummus. In one or two days. And every single month, he will put his hummus in the fridge and forget about it and it goes bad. And so I brought up to him before, you know, we'll be like a week or two out, and I'll be like, hey, man, are you gonna eat that hummus? And he's like, well, I'll check on it, and if it's still good, I'll eat it. If not, I'll throw it away. And he never does. It always goes bad and he throws it away. So my question is, at what point is it okay for me to eat it? Eat the hummus.

[Eldest (Stavi)]

Right.

[Caller/Guest]

You know, I. I know it's his hummus, but it's getting wasted every month.

[Eldest (Stavi)]

Sure.

[Caller/Guest]

It breaks my heart and it's so delicious, and maybe I really just do want to eat the hummus, you know, but it. It seems like it's kind of wasteful.

[Eldest (Stavi)]

I like this. This is a good.

[Caller/Guest]

Anyway, thanks a lot. The podcast means a lot to me. Love you guys. Bye.

[Eldest (Stavi)]

Love you. Hey, maybe we'll go see this guy play Jet. I've been meaning.

[Zach Cherry]

I know the places.

[Eldest (Stavi)]

I know the place, too. I've kind of been meaning to check it out.

[Zach Cherry]

If I. If there's good Humphreys.

[Eldest (Stavi)]

Oh, yeah, it's in your neck. You'll go two blocks from your house. If it's. It's somewhere in Bushwick, you'll go, absolutely. All right. Hell yeah. We're about to. We're about to. It is funny because if we. When we all hang out, there's no way to be inconspicuous. Like, we're both the guy. Like, I think we're both. We're doing okay. But we both get recognized because nobody looks like this.

[Zach Cherry]

Yeah. Because we have a silhouette that you can notice from 800 yards out.

[Eldest (Stavi)]

Me and you. You together. It would be hilarious. It would actually blow people's minds that two of the only little fat guys they've allowed in entertainment hang out. Anyway, this is interesting because there's two separate planes to this question. There is first a matter of sort of equity for the gig.

[Zach Cherry]

Right.

[Eldest (Stavi)]

And if you're going to be a hard line. If you're going to look at hard line, it's like you both receive payment.

[Zach Cherry]

Sure.

[Eldest (Stavi)]

You do what you want with it. He does what he wants with it. Right. He might have some weird psychological thing where he likes knowing it's there and.

[Zach Cherry]

Or he might be doing some sort of depreciation tax write off.

[Eldest (Stavi)]

Right. Right.

[Zach Cherry]

He's getting paid in hummus by not eating it. Does that mean he can? Right.

[Eldest (Stavi)]

Like when shelves. That the will. Yeah. The Batgirl or the Will Forte. Wiley Coyote. Maybe he's getting a big hummus tax write off. You never, never know. And if he's seen eating the hummus. Exactly. He owes thousands. Now that's a good point. So there's that, Right? And like, look like, for example, if we got paid for a gig and, you know, let's say we're doing two. Prof. You know, don't condescend to me.

[Zach Cherry]

Don't try to. Don't try to use my lingo.

[Eldest (Stavi)]

Hey, I'm trying to learn. I'm listening. I'm learning. Let's say we do that and we get. Each. Get a. You know, if we're. If we're. If we're going by UCB standards, $0. But let's say we're going somewhere. Let's say. And why is that? Who complained about it? Stand ups. Interesting. Anyway, it is so funny that your art form, like stand ups, are too proud to be treated like improvisers. You know, you were treated like when Sam's like, how dare you not give us anything. Anyway, we're not dredging up the. The UCB controversy from literally all that.

[Zach Cherry]

Whatever. Whichever it was, whichever it shakes out is ending up being. I was on the right side of all.

[Eldest (Stavi)]

That's beautiful, man. Let's say we each got, you know, whatever. They give us 100 bucks each and, you know, I buy pretty stuff for

[Zach Cherry]

me for doing an improv.

[Eldest (Stavi)]

Yeah, right, right, right, right, right. And you decide you want to burn it for warmth.

[Zach Cherry]

Yeah.

[Eldest (Stavi)]

That's none of my business. On one level. Yeah. But on now we're going just as now let's. So that's the payment.

[Zach Cherry]

Sure.

[Eldest (Stavi)]

Now is roommates.

[Zach Cherry]

Like if he was trading his hummus for something that you didn't like. None of your business.

[Eldest (Stavi)]

All I'm saying is even whatever. At the end of the day, the. The hardline reading of this, you both get hummus.

[Zach Cherry]

It's his hummus.

[Eldest (Stavi)]

He does what he wants. You like, if you didn't live with him, you wouldn't even. You would never consider this. This would never be a thing. So this isn't a payment thing. This is in the realm of roommates.

[Zach Cherry]

Sure.

[Eldest (Stavi)]

So let's take that out. Now we're in the house, and you're just two rooms roommates who both have food in the fridge. Yeah. One of your roommates lets his food go bad constantly. And as a roommate issue, you know, you've Brought it up to him. You've tried to. He didn't say. Here's the thing. He didn't say, yeah, I never eat it. You take it. He said, I'll check on it. Right now, maybe your friend's a piece of shit, but at the end of the day, it is his hummus. So what I would say is, if I were were you, I would start each month eating a little more of his hummus.

[Zach Cherry]

Yes.

[Eldest (Stavi)]

Slowly.

[Zach Cherry]

I think that's right.

[Eldest (Stavi)]

I don't think this can be gone through the court of law. Right. Because you don't really have a case here. You. Basically, your best case scenario is to become a hummus squatter, where it's like, hopefully like. It's like you're a homeless guy who finds an abandoned home. Maybe this will never be an issue, but by the letter of the law, our unjust law. Laws.

[Zach Cherry]

He does.

[Eldest (Stavi)]

It's his hummus, and it is unfair what he's doing.

[Zach Cherry]

But I think you are right to utilize.

[Eldest (Stavi)]

You have a moral right, but you do not have a legal.

[Zach Cherry]

Sure, yes.

[Eldest (Stavi)]

Right. This is where the law does not match and true morality.

[Zach Cherry]

You're able to establish a pattern of having eaten the hummus last month and he didn't even notice. Then if you are caught, eventually you're like, buddy, you didn't even notice. Common law.

[Eldest (Stavi)]

Of course, common law. It is common law. Your common law hummus. And I would even say this is one of those things where, you know, it's like. It's like when you decide parking in my neighborhood so bad, I'm going to budget, you know, 300 bucks a month for tickets.

[Zach Cherry]

Right. You.

[Eldest (Stavi)]

You'll probably eat this hummus. He won't even notice. Definitely. One month he notices and gets pissed at you. That's where the. And you maybe have. You have a small roommate sanctioned for that.

[Morgan Stewart]

That.

[Eldest (Stavi)]

But you got away with it two out of the three months. You know what I mean? So I would say this is. Now, unfortunately, you have no legal basis here. This is all unofficial, sort of like, you know.

[Zach Cherry]

But the beautiful thing about hummus is

[Eldest (Stavi)]

if you scoot it over.

[Zach Cherry]

Yeah. If you're. If it's in a container and he's not even looking.

[Eldest (Stavi)]

Okay.

[Zach Cherry]

Actually, there's no way. Like, just scrape some hummus on the top so it looks like it's still full. You can eat that hummus out of the bottom.

[Eldest (Stavi)]

I. I love this. So, okay. That one. That's one way you put. You know, you fill up. You fill it up with packing peanuts and then a Layer of hummus.

[Zach Cherry]

One thin layer.

[Eldest (Stavi)]

Just one layer. Yeah. I would go a step further. The day it happens, you'd steal the hummus and replace it with sabra. Shitty hummus.

[Zach Cherry]

Or that. Yes.

[Eldest (Stavi)]

You know what I mean?

[Zach Cherry]

Or just always have a sabra in the back of the fridge or something

[Eldest (Stavi)]

even shittier than that. You know, something cheaper than that. What? Whatever. But I think so. Yes. You steal the hummus and put fake.

[Zach Cherry]

Just put peanut butter in there.

[Eldest (Stavi)]

Yeah. Put a layer, ground up some oatmeal. Put oatmeal or some like. That's actually a real. I think I would do that. I think you start with replacing the hummus with something that sucks and eating it.

[Zach Cherry]

As long as it visually still looks like his hummus, he's still getting the same benefit.

[Eldest (Stavi)]

Or. Yeah, yeah, yes.

[Zach Cherry]

Because he just likes to know it's there.

[Eldest (Stavi)]

He likes to know it's there. So, yeah. You find the shittiest, cheapest hummus there is. Is Right. Maybe even sub sabra. I don't even know. And you. You eat yours and then you're like, mad. Hummus was so good, I'm in the mood for more hummus. And you take a shitty container, you switch the hummuses. You put his good one in the shitty one. You put the shitty one. Is that if you want your cleanest solution, where. Yes, you have to put a little capital there. That's gonna cost you about five bucks for the shitty hummus.

[Zach Cherry]

But only once because you can just reuse that container.

[Eldest (Stavi)]

Use the container.

[Zach Cherry]

He's not checking the date on checking it.

[Eldest (Stavi)]

And that way you. If he's never gonna. If he's never checked it and you replace it with dummy hummus, you're fine. And you'll never be. You'll never be sanctioned by him.

[Zach Cherry]

And you do have. You are morally obligated to do this.

[Eldest (Stavi)]

You have to do this.

[Zach Cherry]

You can't let this hummus be just absolutely.

[Eldest (Stavi)]

You can't. And now we've gone to the third. Because I said there's different planes from a home.

[Zach Cherry]

There's homeless guys all around the country.

[Eldest (Stavi)]

Yeah, yeah, yeah. You give it to me.

[Zach Cherry]

I just learned about this.

[Eldest (Stavi)]

Wouldn't have got a dog. Would not have had a dog if I knew this.

[Zach Cherry]

But so. So you can't be wasting hummus. I already have a dog.

[Eldest (Stavi)]

Right.

[Zach Cherry]

Right now I would like to apologize. I regret it.

[Eldest (Stavi)]

He regrets it. But yeah. But yes, eat the hummus. Eat the hummus. This is actually. And yeah, from a fat perspective, this is a crime, a moral crime. Yeah, to let good hum. Because good hummus too. When you have hummus that's so good at fat, people look at it as a snack. That's good ass hummus. I mean, creamy. As you've tricked us into thinking ground up beans is a good dip, you're talking about. People usually like ranch. That's incredible hummus. So you can't let that go to.

[Zach Cherry]

We need to try this hummus.

[Eldest (Stavi)]

We actually do need to try the hummus. Yeah, we will. We actually will at some point. Maybe we need to go before this comes out so that no one knows we're coming. Okay, I think that's. I think that we've weighed in nicely. How about something fun to go out on here, little buddy?

[Zach Cherry]

How about a little update?

[Eldest (Stavi)]

Okay.

[Zach Cherry]

Remember the woman who called on Eric Andre's episode about her boy, she got money in the. She got money in the lawsuit settlement.

[Eldest (Stavi)]

I did.

[Zach Cherry]

I listened to.

[Eldest (Stavi)]

Yes, this was a great. This was a great call. And he wanted her to pay for his plastic surgery.

[Zach Cherry]

Yeah, he wanted to get a BBL with her money.

[Eldest (Stavi)]

He asked her for that.

[Zach Cherry]

So here's a little update.

[Eldest (Stavi)]

Was it a bbl?

[Zach Cherry]

Not a bbl, but I think he wanted like.

[Eldest (Stavi)]

Yes, something could we talk about? Yes, yes, a bbl. Okay, great.

[Morgan Stewart]

What up, stars? I am the caller that called about

[Caller/Guest]

my boyfriend wanting a BBL in Brazil

[Morgan Stewart]

with my settlement money. And I'm just giving you an update. I totally understand if it doesn't go to the show, but the update as of right now is one. My boyfriend and I ended up just getting a new gym membership at a non commercial gym. And so like, we're good now, I guess in terms of body dysmorphia, we still have our days, but we decided not to do steroids yet. No plastic surgery for right now. I think the Kanye west donda argument was probably the best one.

[Eldest (Stavi)]

Okay.

[Morgan Stewart]

Because my boyfriend and I for context, are both in recovery.

[Zach Cherry]

Okay.

[Morgan Stewart]

So some of the judgment, you know, we have done much crazier things in Brazil because we have both been addicts at one point in time. I know, but what I ended up doing with the money, a lot of people told me to invest it. And this morning with the war being announced in Iran, I actually ended up using my settlement money and I transferred it into an investment banking account and bought $10,000 worth of stocks of Lockheed Martin, Boeing and dude Raytheon as well as Markoff Gunman. I'm not joking. I am a veteran. But yeah, appreciated your insight.

[Eldest (Stavi)]

You're out and you're like, let me. Let me link my financial. You really want to live in a world where if you make money, that means a bunch of Iranians were killed? Because, I mean, come on, man. Give. You know, I take it back. Get your boyfriend a bbm, Take the money back. Give him a bigger. Go to Rio de Janeiro, have a fucking vacation, and buy him a bigger dick. Don't buy fucking stocking. Come on, guys. It's.

[Zach Cherry]

Sometimes you make art and you put it out in the world, and you don't know if you're having an impact on people. And it's just so nice that you get direct feedback on the impact you're having.

[Eldest (Stavi)]

This fucking podcast. Put money in Northrop Grumman's pockets, dude.

[Zach Cherry]

Dude,

[Eldest (Stavi)]

you probably never imagine she's trolling.

[Zach Cherry]

She has to be. I mean, I have to. I have to take this lady at face value.

[Eldest (Stavi)]

She's a veteran. She's a veteran of both heroin and the Iraq war. So she has seen some. I don't know if it's her on her pills or whatever it was, but. Okay. All right, let's finish this. Maybe she gives us a psych.

[Zach Cherry]

Okay.

[Morgan Stewart]

We felt a lot better after hearing that in. But. And I was the one who interested. Please, please don't dox me. But my Instagram is. Okay, that's my username if you guys want to see photos of what we look like for judgment purposes.

[Eldest (Stavi)]

I do.

[Morgan Stewart]

Totally fine by us. But, yeah, we ended up using that money to invest in the warmongering company.

[Eldest (Stavi)]

Come on, dude.

[Morgan Stewart]

We definitely appreciate you taking our call. We love you, St. We love you, Elis. Whoever it is. We love you, too. Thank you so much for taking our call and giving us such helpful insight and teaching us how to love our own bodies. All right, brother. Have a nice day.

[Zach Cherry]

I don't know. I thought. I thought it was, like, kind of crazy, but then she said, like, she's a veteran. I was like, okay, I can see a veteran, like, doing.

[Eldest (Stavi)]

I'm already in for a penny, in for a pound. I was already part of the war machine. I might as well. Well make money off, right?

[Zach Cherry]

This isn't, like, adding anything to my. To the cosmic scale.

[Eldest (Stavi)]

Right, Right, right, Right.

[Zach Cherry]

Yeah.

[Eldest (Stavi)]

Look her up. Let's see what they look like. Let's at least see what they look like.

[Zach Cherry]

It is. It is an interesting treatment for body dysmorphia. I've not heard of investing in Lockheed Martin as the cure.

[Eldest (Stavi)]

Yeah. Before.

[Zach Cherry]

But she says they both feel a lot better now.

[Eldest (Stavi)]

It's private. They look Cute. At least you know, anyway.

[Zach Cherry]

Please.

[Eldest (Stavi)]

Okay, look.

[Zach Cherry]

Okay, let's see.

[Eldest (Stavi)]

Oh, go to her. She has a different.

[Zach Cherry]

And how thick would this guy's be?

[Eldest (Stavi)]

Yeah, can we see his thick. She's looking good. They're getting jacked. Dude, you guys are hot. Here's the thing. There's nothing for you don't. You should not have body dysmorphia. You guys look good. You're strong. I would say don't invest in those companies. Even though it will. I don't know. Who am I to tell. You would do here. You know what I. You do whatever you want to do. I would if it were up to me invest in something else. But whatever. I'll go the. Let's try and balance this out. If you desert the US army, we will send you free merch. If you prove that you. You got orders to go to. Unless legally I. This is a crime. This is a. This is satire. If that's the case. But if you desert the US Armed Forces, we will give you a free 2026. You know what? We'll even give you a free 2027 calendar. We'll give you the rest of the calendar. You get 1.5 novelty comedian calendars. And all it's going to take is you. You deserting the U. Well, you know, we'll throw in tickets too. How about that? You know, maybe not front row, but you know, so just to. Just to balance out the scales somehow

[Zach Cherry]

back during your way into doing uso.

[Eldest (Stavi)]

Yeah. You just become the uso. Yeah. Yeah. Because the entire armed forces has fled

[Zach Cherry]

to get tickets to your tour.

[Eldest (Stavi)]

Jesus, that's so funny. Anyway, that's. I'm glad you didn't get him a bbl, but honestly, at this point, get him a BBL instead of giving money to Raytheon.

[Zach Cherry]

Mixed result. Not a clean.

[Eldest (Stavi)]

If she's joking, she's hilarious. She's Andy Kaufman. That is so funny how earnest she is too.

[Zach Cherry]

But Andy would have also bought the shares.

[Eldest (Stavi)]

Yeah, that is. That is true.

[Zach Cherry]

Yeah.

[Eldest (Stavi)]

You got to sell the joke.

[Zach Cherry]

Yeah.

[Eldest (Stavi)]

All right, well look, we're happy for you. You're both hands. You're both hot. He. I don't know what he's talking about. He looked kind of jacked.

[Zach Cherry]

Yeah, you both look pretty jacked. I think as two guys with probably reverse body, we really should have a little more relate to. We cannot part of it.

[Eldest (Stavi)]

We cannot not relate to it. Maybe just regular index funds, you know. Yeah, maybe just a general index fund. Even crypto, for Christ's sake. Over Fucking. Although I guess crypto is just, you know, you do. They're just using it to buy drugs and child pornography with it. So whatever. But. All right, well, that was an, that was a mixed update, I guess. I still don't know how to feel about that. But yeah, think about deserting the US army folks instead of, instead, instead of being in an unjust war. Okay, that's going to do for us. I, I would say more, but again, Zach's got a career here. I'll keep, I'll keep my thought, my, my more direct thoughts on the Patreon.

[Zach Cherry]

You can add it on. I'll leave and you can sort of add it on into the.

[Eldest (Stavi)]

Yeah, I'll just know two shots. When I'm talking about Iran, when I'm saying go Iran who I am voting. We're rooting for.

[Zach Cherry]

Voting for that.

[Eldest (Stavi)]

Yeah, voting. I'm writing in Iran for the next presidential election. All right, that's going to do it for us, folks. Zach, thank you, brother. Thanks for coming. We had to get. I, I put at the Patreon because it was crazy to get him for three episodes before you did your solo one.

[Zach Cherry]

We had to complete the Fat house.

[Eldest (Stavi)]

We have to complete Fat House. And now everyone is again eligible for

[Zach Cherry]

being on applications as well.

[Eldest (Stavi)]

That is true. And we were talking about Fat House babies or Fat House J Jr. Where we're, we're kind of trying to find little fat guys in their upstarts in their 20s. Not just guys. We need fat chicks in there.

[Zach Cherry]

Absolutely.

[Eldest (Stavi)]

We want little fat chicks to, to, to help. We're gonna, we're gonna be your fat mentors.

[Zach Cherry]

Yes.

[Eldest (Stavi)]

Cuz being fat crosses gender. It crosses ethnicity. It is the one thing that across everything, no matter what group you're in, the fat people in that group are thought of less. And we need to band together. We're gonna clip this. There's one, that one tribe where it's like if you're fat as you're actually the man. Have you seen those pictures? No. It's awesome, dude. It's like this one tribe and the guys are fatted.

[Zach Cherry]

They have, they have like pop bellies.

[Eldest (Stavi)]

Yeah, I think so. Tribe where fat people are dominant. Elder says Mauritania. Is that it? Go to the. Go to the. Go to images. Maybe it's the Bodhi. Yeah, the Bodhi tribe. Look at that.

[Zach Cherry]

Dude. Do they let like, do they. Are they accepting applications?

[Eldest (Stavi)]

I don't know, but we would. We might be too fat for this. Them. We would. We would. We. They. Here's the Thing they're fat for Africa.

[Zach Cherry]

I'm looking at some of these pictures.

[Eldest (Stavi)]

Honestly, I kind of want that body type. Yeah, we're not even close. The chief is so much. Yeah. Less fat than us. But anyway. But who knows? Maybe that would make us. That would. You know, it's like showing LeBron to the people who play basketball in the 50s.

[Zach Cherry]

That's right.

[Eldest (Stavi)]

If we go over there, we might

[Zach Cherry]

be clean up all powerful.

[Eldest (Stavi)]

Dude, I might be, too. I might be the biggest piece of ass at the. That guy's pretty fat, that last ass guy. All right, well, that's gonna do for us, folks. Shout out to the Bodhi tribe of Ethiopia. And don't find Zach. Don't go to anything he does. Only watch the media that's on a screen. You want them to watch Severance? The Brett. You're in the new Resident Evil movie.

[Zach Cherry]

Yeah, eventually.

[Eldest (Stavi)]

Yeah, that comes up. But don't approach Zach in public.

[Zach Cherry]

No, you can. Your listeners have actually been very kind to me. Okay, so the first time I came on, you made me do the humiliation ritual. You put me in the Santa suit. Now you've let me kind of. I've earned my way to normal.

[Eldest (Stavi)]

I didn't feel bad that both Gabrius and Mitch got to be themselves first and you had to do the Santa

[Zach Cherry]

suit first, and I had to bargain you down for Mrs. Claus.

[Eldest (Stavi)]

I had to get to Santa. Oh, we should have dressed eldest up as Mrs. Claus. We up.

[Zach Cherry]

He's been very nice to me. I see them in public. And Keep it brief, though.

[Eldest (Stavi)]

Keep it brief. He. Zach's a very nice guy. He's. He's not really saying his true feelings. Keep it tight when you approach Zach. I love what you do. Handshake. Keep it moving. Don't ask him what Ben Stiller's like in person. That's going to do it for us, folks. We'll talk to you next week. Bye. Bye.

[Morgan Stewart]

Hey, everyone, it's me, Morgan Stewart, and I have a new podcast called the Morgan Stewart Show. Join me each week as I talk about pop culture, fashion, my personal life, and just a warning, I'm gonna be giving my opinion on everything. I'll also have some really fun guests to join in on the fun. The Morgan Stewart show is out now. Listen and follow wherever you get your podcasts or watch full video on YouTube.

[Eldest (Stavi)]

Why have we asked our contractor we found on Angie.com to be our kid's legal guard guardian?

[Morgan Stewart]

Because he took such good care when

[Eldest (Stavi)]

redoing our basement that we knew we could trust him. To care for our kids, all eight of them, should something happen to us.

[Zach Cherry]

Are you my dad now?

[Eldest (Stavi)]

No. Sorry. I do basements. Connecting homeowners with skilled pros for over 30 years. Angie, the one you trust to find the ones you trust. Find pros for all your home [e-mail].