#188 - Jimmy Tatro

Summary

Stavvy’s World Episode #188 – Jimmy Tatro

Podcast Date: July 6, 2026
Host: Stavros Halkias
Guest: Jimmy Tatro

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Episode Overview

This episode of Stavvy’s World features comedian, actor, and online content creator Jimmy Tatro. Together, Stavros and Jimmy reminisce about their origins as content creators, discuss the shifting landscape in entertainment (from YouTube to mainstream media and back), reflect on the absurdities of show business, and provide tangential (but heartfelt) advice to listeners via the Stavi's World Hotline. The conversation is rich with sharp humor, honest confessions about young aspirations, showbiz war stories, and classic banter about growing up, masculinity, and the ever-humbling reality of being the “dumb, but lovable” guy.

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Key Discussion Points and Insights

1. From YouTube to TV–and Back Again

[03:50 - 06:41]

• The glory days of YouTube: Jimmy discusses the evolution from being a pioneering YouTube creator to seeing the entire industry acknowledge the platform's power, years after creators like himself staked their careers on it.
  • Jimmy Tatro [04:13]: "The Real Bros of Simi Valley, one of the most legendary pieces of online content there is... It's very, I love seeing anybody make it off the tube."
  • Describes the irony of escaping the “sewer of the Internet” only to see the industry turn back:
    • Jimmy [04:32]: "I've been... the amount of articles I've seen in the last like three weeks that are like, yeah, YouTube's the new TV. And I was like... I was trying to say this 10 years ago."
• TV/streaming's cyclical nature: Both joke about the futility and circular progress of Hollywood—today, everyone (including A-listers) is scrambling for YouTube channels and podcasts.

2. Real Bros of Simi Valley: A Case Study in Modern TV

[07:05 - 09:59]

• The journey from YouTube miniseries to Facebook TV to Roku Movie.
  • Jimmy highlights the weirdness of Facebook’s brief “premium TV” era and the bizarre rights issues, where episodes are scattered across platforms.
  • Stavros [07:10]: "If you watch an old episode of Golden Girls...the third ad break will be a full episode of Real Bros of Simi Valley."
  • Jimmy explains how the show grew in length, budget, and ambition with each iteration, giving him a crash course in every part of show creation.

3. Playing Lovable “Dumb Guys”

[10:09 - 12:52]

• Jimmy and Stavros both get typecast as lovable idiots, bullies, or “horny dumbasses” in Hollywood.
  • Stavros [10:40]: "You’re very talented at playing like truly dumbasses...the way you’re able to take the light out of your eyes."
  • Jimmy describes the subtlety that goes into giving these roles heart, rather than just being one-note jokes.
  • Jimmy [11:18]: "They don’t think they’re idiots...the more serious you are about it, the funnier it is."
  • Both express actual envy for characters with “a total lack of self-awareness.”

4. Set Life: Going from DIY Crews to Hollywood Indulgence

[13:12 - 19:56]

• They compare early DIY days (doing everything themselves) to the pampered life on set—umbrella-holders, makeup crews, hair people, excessive attention, and how that makes actors “crazy.”
  • Funny stories about being “treated like a giant baby” on set, e.g., fat-guy makeup, costuming, Jimmy stuck in an Iron Man suit on Home Economics.
  • Jimmy [19:02]: "I also couldn't sit down [in the Iron Man suit]... so they had crutches for me..."

5. Athletic Aspirations and Accepting Reality

[22:53 - 34:38]

• Childhood delusions about being basketball/football stars, and confronting body-type limitations.
  • Stavros [26:41]: "My origin story is I did not get the part...Charlie Brown, and then I was like, fuck art, dude, I'm a fucking jock."
  • Jimmy [30:33]: "I also took way too long to come to terms with the fact that I wasn't gonna go to the NBA...you're five foot ten."
  • Extended riff on realizing NBA players are physical freaks; not for guys like them.

6. Skating, Venice Upbringings, and Early Comedy

[22:53 - 29:00]

• Jimmy grew up making skate videos, blending tricks and Jackass-style sketches, learning by doing.
• Hilarious nostalgia for Venice’s pre-skatepark era, and the older, sketchier kids he hung out with.

7. Synchronized Swimming, “Obese Aquatics,” and Absurd Sports

[34:40 - 39:38]

• Jimmy’s college pool adventures, swimming while high, watching synchronized swimmers.
• Leads to a riff on starting a body positive synchronized swimming league for very large men (“Obese Aquatics”).
  • Jimmy [39:16]: "Obese aquatics is a nice starting point because, again, the incredibly fat people do get forgotten. Especially...aquatically."
  • Jokes about pyramid schemes, always being at the bottom of human pyramids, and the fat person’s struggle in sports.

8. The High School Coach Archetype

[42:17 - 48:55]

• The tyranny and incompetence of high school coaches—how some high school authority figures are just failed adults channeling their frustration onto kids.
  • Jimmy [43:44]: "My [basketball] coach, he didn’t like me too much…"
  • Stavros [45:54]: "The high school coach is a fascinating guy...If they don’t have kids to take it out on, what if I could take it out on 40 of somebody else’s kids?"

9. Childhood Athletic Humiliation & Rube Goldberg Life Choices

[53:11 - 57:42]

• Jimmy’s and Stavros’s circuitous routes through various sports, culminating in self-acceptance and humility ("nail, not hammer").
• Toughness, concussions, the realization that sometimes “I don’t want it” when up against real athletes.

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Stavi’s World Hotline – Advice Segment (Selected Calls)

Call 1: Pregnant Wife’s Growing Breasts ([58:45 - 63:53])

Q: How should I appreciate my pregnant wife's growing breasts when I can't touch them?

• Stavros: "Get into photography. Turn your shed into a dark room. Develop your own film."
• Jimmy: "Maybe time to become a sculptor. Take up some new art."
• The guys advise appreciating aesthetics, becoming an “artist” of some kind, and perhaps poetry (“yearning for something you can’t have—that’s a poem right there” [62:15]).
• Bonus: Lighthearted joke about inventing the “breast hammock”—then realizing it’s just a bra.

Call 2: Work-Life Balance vs. Career Moves ([63:53 - 75:38])

Q: Should I and my husband abandon our unique family schedule (full weekdays with our toddler, working weekends) for a better job with “normal” hours (and daycare)?

• Stavros: If you’re doing OK financially, cherish the limited time with your young child now. There will be a natural, organic time to transition to “regular hours”—i.e., when the kid enters school. “The most finite thing in this equation is you being with your toddler. That you can never get back.” [70:04]
• Jimmy: (Lighthearted): “What if I made a really impassioned, long counter argument and just leave her again at a neutral decision?” [72:35] Ultimately, he agrees.
• Consensus: Don’t fall for the rat-race logic; value your happiness and these special years.

Call 3: 21-Year-Old Wants to Hook Up with the “Hottest MILF” in Town ([76:12 - 87:12])

Q: Should I and how do I try to hook up with this divorced woman from my hometown (I'm 21, she's older, used to know her from church & church band)?

• Jimmy: "Your biggest obstacle is you just seem so young... and that might be a turn off." [79:46]
• Stavros: Don’t act desperate or expect an outcome; see this as experience in talking to women, not a strategy to “unlock pussy.”
• Advice: Don’t say “MILF.” Don’t expect sex. Build a friendship and develop social skills; if anything happens, it’s a crazy bonus.
  • Jimmy [85:53]: “You’ll say things to her, she’ll roll her eyes... it’ll be a good learning experience.”
• Stavros: “Ask her about her life… These will be valuable skills for you when you go back to college.” [86:02]

Call 4: Warehouse Manager Doesn’t Wash His Hands ([91:33 - 102:42])

Q: How do I deal with a warehouse manager who never washes his hands after using the bathroom?

• Jimmy: Start by posing it as a question in the moment, in a light, ball-busting way: “You wash your hands?”
• Stavros: You probably have to embarrass him, not politely ask; otherwise, he’ll just deny it or ignore you.
  • “He’ll see it as being challenged by a younger man he doesn’t respect.”
• General consensus: Use humor/light ribbing if environment allows, and be realistic about changing someone’s behavior.

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Notable Quotes & Memorable Moments

• Stavros [10:40]: “You’re very talented at playing like truly dumbasses...the way you’re able to take the light out of your eyes.”
• Jimmy [11:18]: “They don’t think they’re idiots...the more serious you are about it, the funnier it is.”
• Jimmy [19:02]: "...I had to be like, coffee. And someone would come over with a little straw...I also couldn't sit down [in the Iron Man suit]."
• Stavros [26:41]: “My origin story is I did not get the part...Charlie Brown, and then I was like, fuck art, dude, I'm a fucking jock.”
• Jimmy [30:33]: “I also took way too long to come to terms with the fact that I wasn't gonna go to the NBA...you're five foot ten.”
• Stavros [70:04]: “The most finite thing in this equation is you being with your toddler. That you can never get back.”
• Jimmy [85:53]: “You’ll say things to her, she’ll roll her eyes... it’ll be a good learning experience.”
• Stavros [97:19]: "Shut the water off one day... you come out, you're like, dude, I'm so sorry. The water was off...Could you wash your hands?"

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Timestamps for Key Segments

• 03:50: YouTube's rise and fall—and rise again for creators
• 07:05: “Real Bros” – moving from YouTube to Facebook to Roku
• 10:09: Typecasting as “dumb, but means well”
• 13:12: Going from scrappy DIYer to being pampered on set
• 22:53: Skate video origins, Venice background
• 26:41: Getting “snubbed” in school; jock/art pseudo-rivalry
• 34:40: Synchronized swimming & “Obese Aquatics”
• 42:17: High school coach trauma, “power corrupts”
• 53:11: Humiliations of youth sports, self-acceptance
• 58:45: Stavi’s World Hotline: Pregnant wife’s breasts
• 63:53: Balancing career vs. family time
• 76:12: The 21-year-old’s MILF quest
• 91:33: Dealing with gross warehouse hygiene via ball busting

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Plug Zone

• Jimmy’s Upcoming Show: “The Hawk” on Netflix (July 16 release), a golf comedy with Will Ferrell and Molly Shannon, from the “Eastbound & Down” creative team.

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Tone, Style, and Final Thoughts

As always, Stavros’s hangout format remains breezy, self-aware, and improvisational—balancing heartfelt advice with no-holds-barred digression and relatability. The episode is loaded with "guy talk," but genuinely inquisitive about the realities of creative and working life—never shying from ridicule or warmth.

Above all, the central message (amid sports failures, sitcom failures, and relationship failures) is: laugh at yourself, don’t take anything too seriously, and cherish the good moments, whether it’s a childhood tray flip, a favorite role, or precious time with a toddler.

Transcript

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[Stavros Halkias]

Folks, we have a great episode with Jimmy Tatro. Hilarious guy. I've been a big fan for a while. We're pumped to have him on. But before that, we want to let you know the special is finally happening again. Cross your fingers. I'm not riding any scooters from now until then. On July 18th and 19th in Baltimore, four shows at the Lyric. Saturday 7 18. There is a 7pm and a 9:30pm same thing on Sunday 7pm and and a 9:30pm I'll be honest with you, we switched it from a Friday Saturday to a Saturday Sunday. I didn't think about the fact that people wouldn't want to go to a Sunday Late show. So the Sunday Late the others have almost sold out. The Sunday Late show we could use. Come on. I know we got some scumbags in Baltimore that have nothing better to do on a Sunday. Buy your tickets. We're so close to selling out four shows. I can't wait to. I can't wait to finally record this. It's going to be so fun. I love this hour so much. It's going to be a blast. Please buy your tickets if you haven't already. And then if the if you're in New Jersey or Long island the weekend before on the 10th and the 11th this coming week I am going to be in Montclair, New Jersey at the Wellmont Theater and at the Paramount. I think those are pretty close to selling out. But buy your tickets. That'll be the last time. Fingers crossed that I do that hour before before I record it. So in the meantime, enjoy our pal Jimmy Tejo and enjoy the inaugural episode of the Visible Sponsored Stavi Hotline. Welcome everybody, to Stavi's World904,800 stop call. The Stavi's World Hotline presented by Visible. That's right, folks. New sponsor Visible is now sponsoring the Stopvies World Hotline. All your advice that's made possible. Me hearing the advice that's made possible by our friends at Visible. So really consider Visible if you're looking for some excellent wireless service. Jimmy, does it feel good being here for the inaugural Visible. The inaugural Stavi's World Hotline Presented by visible.

[Jimmy Tatro]

100%.

[Stavros Halkias]

Does that feel good?

[Jimmy Tatro]

Yeah.

[Stavros Halkias]

We waited to have you. We got our boy Jimmy Tatro here. Thanks for being, dude. Big fan. So happy. So happy you're doing the show. Yeah, we really saved that honor for you.

[Jimmy Tatro]

Thank you.

[Stavros Halkias]

I know you're a big Visible guy. You wouldn't shut up about it.

[Jimmy Tatro]

I can't get enough of this stuff.

[Stavros Halkias]

Yeah, you just.

[Advertisement Voice]

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[Stavros Halkias]

You buy extra phones.

[Jimmy Tatro]

Oh, man. Ye.

[Stavros Halkias]

That. That you don't even turn on.

[Jimmy Tatro]

I. I really. I really appreciate you. Seriously, it means a lot. Honestly, I didn't know. I didn't know he was going to do this.

[Stavros Halkias]

I know, man. It was a surprise. But you know, you deserve it, bro. You deserve it.

[Jimmy Tatro]

Thank you.

[Stavros Halkias]

We weren't going to have a non visible fan be here on the first episode of the. Of the. Of them being a presenting sponsor of the st. Other.

[Advertisement Voice]

Yeah.

[Jimmy Tatro]

Like, what is.

[Stavros Halkias]

You'd be so mad.

[Jimmy Tatro]

Yeah, I'd be. I'd be pissed.

[Stavros Halkias]

You cancel when you. When you saw it air. Yeah. Thanks for being here, dude. I've been a big fan. Obviously. I love seeing anyone who escapes the. The sewer of the Internet, you know, like, you know, and you. I. I lucked into podcasting, weirdly, but you were a fudgeing. You were like, on.

[Jimmy Tatro]

You.

[Stavros Halkias]

You were really doing it, bro. You were. You. You were on YouTube.

[Jimmy Tatro]

The real bro.

[Stavros Halkias]

Simi Valley, one of the most legendary pieces of online content there is, bro. So funny. And it's very. I love seeing anybody kind of like,

[Jimmy Tatro]

you know, make it off the tube.

[Stavros Halkias]

Get out, dude. Make it out of the tube.

[Jimmy Tatro]

Make it out of the tube.

[Stavros Halkias]

Although now I think we're going back. It seems to be the best place to put. To put now.

[Jimmy Tatro]

It's. It's infuriating to see. I've been. The amount of articles I've seen in the last like three weeks that are like, yeah, YouTube's the new TV. And I was like. I was like, dude, I was saying that. I was trying to say this 10 years ago.

[Stavros Halkias]

Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah.

[Jimmy Tatro]

And you guys are like, no, no,

[Stavros Halkias]

no, no, no, it's not.

[Jimmy Tatro]

It's not the. And then. And then, like, I finally get off

[Stavros Halkias]

the tube, fully off.

[Jimmy Tatro]

And then all the people that I was trying to convince were like, yo, YouTube's actually pretty interesting.

[Stavros Halkias]

Have you ever heard of YouTube?

[Jimmy Tatro]

I fucking told you this literally 15 years ago.

[Angie Hicks]

Yeah.

[Stavros Halkias]

Yeah, it is very funny. It does feel like as they're letting us be in movies now, like, famous people have podcasts and YouTube channels.

[Caller]

Yeah.

[Stavros Halkias]

It's almost like they're like, once they let us in, they're like, all right, we can't be around these type of guys. Like, we need our own podcast. We need our own YouTube channel.

[Jimmy Tatro]

Oh, we're headed to YouTube now. We're all. Oh, you guys are still.

[Stavros Halkias]

Yo, they're letting. These guys are moving.

[Jimmy Tatro]

Oh, you still want to do.

[Stavros Halkias]

Movies aren't good anymore. We gotta get out of here.

[Jimmy Tatro]

You still want to do TV and movies? Oh, no.

[Stavros Halkias]

Yeah, dude. But you know what? I love it because it is. It's kind of awesome to just have your own and then you can do whatever you want.

[Jimmy Tatro]

Yeah.

[Stavros Halkias]

When you have your own, like, you know, especially, dude, a pod is a hilarious, like. Like, ATM machine. Thank you to everybody who is filling their empty lives with our conversation and allowing us to make money off just idle conversation and chit chat.

[Jimmy Tatro]

Yeah, we.

[Stavros Halkias]

We love you for that, folks.

[Jimmy Tatro]

It is a. It's. It's a good way to just, like, the output of it is nice.

[Stavros Halkias]

Yeah.

[Jimmy Tatro]

And then I think once you get caught up in, like, the. The way that you have to make things, it gets frustrating because things just take so much time.

[Stavros Halkias]

Totally.

[Jimmy Tatro]

And it used to be like, you have an idea.

[Stavros Halkias]

Yeah.

[Jimmy Tatro]

Just go execute it that afternoon.

[Stavros Halkias]

That afternoon. And it's out in a day.

[Jimmy Tatro]

Yeah. And that freedom, it's. It's nice. And it also takes some getting used to, not being able to, you know, make things that way.

[Stavros Halkias]

Of course.

[Jimmy Tatro]

Where you're like, we've been waiting for a response.

[Stavros Halkias]

I'm in a trailer. I'm in a trailer. Just waiting. Yeah. Or even. Even getting them. Yeah.

[Jimmy Tatro]

To get, like, you know, when you're, like, going through the process of, like, developing stuff. Yeah, yeah, yeah. We'll get back to you.

[Stavros Halkias]

What's the new shit you're working on right now? Because I. Obviously, I love the Real Bros of Simi Valley. The movie was fucking hilarious. And you've also been on maybe every platform possible. Like, you were literally on.

[Jimmy Tatro]

Thank you for noticing.

[Stavros Halkias]

Facebook tv.

[Jimmy Tatro]

Yeah, Yeah, I tried to check that

[Stavros Halkias]

Show's so funny because I tried to watch it, like, two years ago, and it was like, well, three episodes are on YouTube, four are on Facebook TV, two Bs got one running in an ad. If you watch. If you watch an old episode of Golden Girls. If season three, episode four, the third ad break, will be a full episode of Real Bros of Simi Valley.

[Jimmy Tatro]

That feels like it's funny because the show. The show, like, it started originally as a miniseries on my YouTube channel, and then that did well. And Facebook was making a push to, like, you know, have, like, a Netflix.

[Stavros Halkias]

Everybody was trying to.

[Jimmy Tatro]

Yeah. And they put, like, real money into making shows for a while, and we were part of, like, you know, their legit group of shows.

[Stavros Halkias]

Yeah, yeah, yeah.

[Jimmy Tatro]

And then we did two seasons. It did really well on Facebook. And then they were like, wait, why are we. Why are we trying to make shows?

[Stavros Halkias]

Why are we trying to make art?

[Jimmy Tatro]

And they were like, let's just go back to being Facebook.

[Stavros Halkias]

Yeah. Why are we trying to improve the human experience?

[Jimmy Tatro]

What are we.

[Stavros Halkias]

Why are we bringing laughter into the world? We should be stealing people's data. That's how we need to be making money, not fighting the arts.

[Jimmy Tatro]

So they're like, that was. That was weird. Sorry about that. I don't know why we tried to dabble in. In the arts.

[Angie Hicks]

Sorry.

[Stavros Halkias]

That was a waste of money. Now, please check out the metaverse.

[Jimmy Tatro]

Yeah.

[Stavros Halkias]

Fucking dumbasses.

[Jimmy Tatro]

So then. So then they left. That kind of just like, ended. Yeah. And then Roku picked it up for

[Stavros Halkias]

the movie, moved into Roku City.

[Jimmy Tatro]

Yeah, we.

[Stavros Halkias]

You rented some space.

[Jimmy Tatro]

We were in Roku City. A little billboard in Roku City. For a second. The way they talk about it, they're like. They're like, you know, when the show comes out, we're gonna get you guys. We're gonna get you guys a spot in Roku City. And I'm like, well, yeah, I would hope so. It's a Roku original stream. They're like. They're like, we think we can get 48 hours. And immediately I'm like, that's good.

[Stavros Halkias]

48 hours of, like, Times Square.

[Jimmy Tatro]

I feel like that's, like, bare minimum. Like, that's.

[Stavros Halkias]

Do you have other shows? We're competing against it.

[Jimmy Tatro]

Free for you to.

[Stavros Halkias]

Can't you just, like, that's. Aw, dude.

[Jimmy Tatro]

But yeah. So the show existed on YouTube, Facebook, and Roku.

[Stavros Halkias]

Hell yeah, dude.

[Jimmy Tatro]

But what I. What I like the most about that show was it was like a miniseries. And then when we did season two on Facebook, it was like 12 to 15 minutes.

[Stavros Halkias]

Yeah, yeah.

[Jimmy Tatro]

So it upgraded.

[Stavros Halkias]

Yeah.

[Jimmy Tatro]

A lot in terms of production. Everything. And then season three was like a full length, 22 minute.

[Stavros Halkias]

Yeah.

[Jimmy Tatro]

Half hour comedy show. And then we did a movie.

[Stavros Halkias]

Yeah.

[Jimmy Tatro]

So I was like, it had every version of what something can be.

[Stavros Halkias]

That's awesome though too, because it's like a lot of this. And it was like your first thing that you were saying earlier, like, let's just go make it. And you did get to just kind of learn every step of the process, which is, you know, that's pretty fun.

[Jimmy Tatro]

Yeah. I mean, I'm grateful for it now, of course. At the time I was like, just let me make five seasons of this. Someone just. Just stop taking me around. We make a bunch of this.

[Stavros Halkias]

Yeah, yeah, yeah. But, you know. Good. I mean, you really are very. And I. I feel this way. I feel like you're very talented at playing like truly dumbasses American Vandal. It was incredible, dude, the way you're able to take the light out of your eyes. Like right now you're a lively man with a full. With hopes and dreams. And when the cameras roll, you could just turn that off and just be like, what's up, dude? You know what I mean? That's a real talent you have.

[Jimmy Tatro]

You're saying some really nice things.

[Stavros Halkias]

That's a deep compliment. As a guy who' they bring in to be a bully or a horny idiot, I love. Again, that is what they bring us in for. Right? They want. They want like a certain kind of. They're like, yeah, we could get these guys to be dumb.

[Jimmy Tatro]

It's like, it's always the. They're like, he's dumb, but he means well.

[Stavros Halkias]

Yeah. Yes, yes, yes.

[Jimmy Tatro]

Can really make that dumb guy.

[Stavros Halkias]

Like.

[Jimmy Tatro]

But you really do give him some heart.

[Stavros Halkias]

I'm serious. Where you play that with complexity, where it would be really easy to just be a one note idiot. And it is. You're real. You're.

[Angie Hicks]

Fuck.

[Stavros Halkias]

You're great at that. For real.

[Jimmy Tatro]

Because, you know, they're. They don't think they're idiots. No, dude, they don't think they're funny.

[Stavros Halkias]

No, no, they really don't.

[Jimmy Tatro]

So that's like the funniest thing is like, these people, they're not actually like, I'm a funny character. They're just like. That's just who they are.

[Stavros Halkias]

Of course.

[Jimmy Tatro]

So the more serious you are about it, the funnier it is.

[Stavros Halkias]

Well, they don't have any introspection, so it's like everything that, like there's no step between immediate impulsive thought and doing something or saying something.

[Jimmy Tatro]

Yeah.

[Stavros Halkias]

And that's a. I don't know. There's a real beauty in that.

[Jimmy Tatro]

I really envy sometimes just like, a total lack of awareness.

[Stavros Halkias]

Yeah, dude.

[Jimmy Tatro]

Like, you know when you hear stories about someone and you're like, damn, it really takes a complete and utter lack of self awareness to have that kind of story about it.

[Stavros Halkias]

Of course, he just went in there and demanded a race. He's been there for, like, a month, and he got it because the boss respected his chutzpah.

[Advertisement Voice]

Yeah.

[Stavros Halkias]

It's like, what the. I've been working quietly like a. For years. Yeah.

[Jimmy Tatro]

I'm like, man, I wish, you know, you hear these stories. I'm like, I don't think there's any stories that are that crazy about me.

[Stavros Halkias]

Yeah, yeah, yeah.

[Jimmy Tatro]

Where they're like, oh, yeah, that guy on set, he was crazy. He did this, this, and this. I'm like, man, I wish I had, like, one of those.

[Stavros Halkias]

Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. You wish your one PA got scalding hot teeth thrown in their face. Yeah, I should. Yeah. Something like just one. Just one. And it's a rich guy's kid who hasn't had. And you're actually helping him.

[Jimmy Tatro]

Right.

[Stavros Halkias]

Because, like, a lot of these nepo pas, you know, they've never faced any consequences, so it would be good for you to act out, and it would be good for them to finally have something to write about on a college admissions essay.

[Jimmy Tatro]

You want to know the most annoying I've felt about something I was irritated about? Yes, there was a pa, And I even hate that I'm even saying this. Of course there was a PA that would knock so loud.

[Advertisement Voice]

Yeah.

[Stavros Halkias]

That's the kind of thing you can't be like, hey, could you turn that down 30%?

[Jimmy Tatro]

And I'm like, I don't have the heart to, like, open the door and go, could you tone it down? Yeah, like, I'm right here.

[Stavros Halkias]

No, you're right.

[Jimmy Tatro]

It's not that big of a.

[Stavros Halkias]

That's a tough one, too.

[Jimmy Tatro]

And. And also, the couch is right here.

[Angie Hicks]

So when you're.

[Jimmy Tatro]

When you're knocking, it's, you know, it's bang, bang, bang. And I just like, yeah. Every time, sitting there chilling, and then

[Stavros Halkias]

it's, oh, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah.

[Jimmy Tatro]

And I never had the heart to

[Stavros Halkias]

be like, please turn that.

[Jimmy Tatro]

Hey, could you knock less loud?

[Stavros Halkias]

Yeah, yeah, yeah. That's a really. It's a reasonable. In. In a vacuum. It's a very reasonable ask but imagine that conversation. It's like, yeah, teacher asked me to turn it down exactly 15%.

[Jimmy Tatro]

Yeah. On the nose.

[Stavros Halkias]

And if it was. If it was more or less, he'd have me fucking fired if I didn't figure out how to be.

[Jimmy Tatro]

As I'm saying this in the wake of our last conversation, I'm like, maybe that should have been my. That could have been my thing. That could have been good.

[Stavros Halkias]

You could be like. And play it dumb, too. But, bro, that's too loud.

[Jimmy Tatro]

Too loud.

[Stavros Halkias]

If you act like an idiot. Oh, that's how you get a word around it. Because, like, always, one time I did.

[Jimmy Tatro]

I did act. The furthest I went. One time, I acted, like, really thrown off.

[Stavros Halkias]

Like, you use it as an acting exercise.

[Jimmy Tatro]

Yeah, I just, like, I open it. I open the door like. Like, is everything okay? Like, I open it like, hello? And she was like, they're ready for you. And I was like, oh.

[Stavros Halkias]

Oh. I thought someone had died.

[Jimmy Tatro]

Yeah.

[Stavros Halkias]

I thought there was a. I thought they hit a third tower. I thought, like, there was a real problem. Yeah, dude.

[Jimmy Tatro]

I thought, like, the cops were here.

[Stavros Halkias]

Yeah, yeah, yeah.

[Jimmy Tatro]

And they, like, found something, and I was busted.

[Stavros Halkias]

I know. My favorite is, like, it is funny to go from having absolutely nothing and seeing how they really, like. Truly. You see why actors become insane?

[Jimmy Tatro]

Yeah.

[Stavros Halkias]

Because they just have, like, two. Two, like, you know, two people assigned to their every whim to the point where I'm just like, bro, you don't have to. They'll, like, try and hold an umbrella over your head. And it's like, I can hold my umbrella, dog. I'm not gonna fucking lash out at you.

[Jimmy Tatro]

I'm not.

[Stavros Halkias]

I'm not like, a guy who's gonna put out cigarettes on your forehead for pissing me off.

[Jimmy Tatro]

Yeah.

[Stavros Halkias]

But it seems like it is funny how much they used to get away with. Whereas now it's like when you come from, like, oh, I just have a camera on me and my friends. It's like, you don't need any of this. No. But at the same time.

[Jimmy Tatro]

But at the same time, am I

[Stavros Halkias]

mad somebody brings some steak to my trailer at lunch?

[Jimmy Tatro]

Am I mad when I'm sitting there in the sun and someone's like, yeah, a little fan.

[Stavros Halkias]

Sorry, a little fan. That's the most. I feel like a baby.

[Jimmy Tatro]

Oh, the fan, dude.

[Stavros Halkias]

And, like, hair and makeup. Like, Truly, this is. It's so funny to go from. Again, doing shit on your own to, like, you just have, like, the nicest women of all time and, like, the nicest Women and, like, coolest gay guys of all time just primping your hair. Like, there'll be, like, four people, and I look like shit. That's the other thing. They bring me in a movie to be the fat guy, right? It's not like, you know, I'm on a movie with Glen Powell. Yeah, primp up.

[Jimmy Tatro]

They're putting makeup. You're like, you're ruining it.

[Stavros Halkias]

Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. This is not the look, but it's so funny to just be fat as shit and just have somebody, like, dabbing your forehead oil. It's like, I don't need this, man.

[Jimmy Tatro]

I was on the phone with one of my buddies from college, and I was like. Like, I'm so glad he can't see what I'm doing. Because, like, while we're on the phone, I'm like. I get, like. I get a knock, and then they're like, they're ready for you. And I'm like, okay, cool. So I'm walking and talking, and I'm being, you know, escorted by the PA into the room. I get to set. Someone takes my jacket off. Someone puts my other jacket on. And then there's. And then they're. They're putting the hair and makeup there. There's three people around me, and I'm just talking to them, and I'm like, thank God he can't see this. Of course, I'd be getting a whole lot of judgment.

[Stavros Halkias]

100. And I broke my arm. So literally, like, when I was working on a movie. And literally, not only were people, like, helping me with hair makeup, but, like, they were dressing me like a fat. Like a giant baby. Like, I was just, like. I was just trying to hide. I couldn't. I couldn't hold. I just couldn't dress myself. I couldn't use my left arm.

[Jimmy Tatro]

But, like, were they hiding it in the show?

[Stavros Halkias]

They were hiding it a little bit, but it was mostly just I physically could not get my clothing on. I was that, like, momentarily disabled. So it was just like. I felt like a giant baby. It was like, okay, buddy, we're going to put your suspenders on now. I don't want the suspenders. Get me the belt, you know? And it was just. It's the most pathetic, you fucking feel. And then for what? To just go up there and, like, be like. Just riff. That's what all this is for.

[Jimmy Tatro]

I had one of those in a. In an Iron man costume. I did a show called Home Economics.

[Stavros Halkias]

Oh, yeah.

[Jimmy Tatro]

And we were always doing, like, holiday episodes. It was like A network show. It felt like we were just moving from, like, Halloween to Thanksgiving to Christmas to New Year's to Valentine's Day.

[Stavros Halkias]

I love. I miss that when it comes to how TV is made now. It was awesome when there was, like, they had 30 fucking episodes, by the way. It was cool when 12 episodes sucked dick. I liked when. When shows just phoned it in half the time because it's like, look. Because they were. Network TV was what podcasting was, where it was like, just fucking throw some bullshit in the background, you know what I mean? And every once in a while, there's a.

[Jimmy Tatro]

Did 22, season two.

[Stavros Halkias]

Wow.

[Jimmy Tatro]

And, like, that was a lot.

[Stavros Halkias]

Yeah.

[Jimmy Tatro]

But there was. The episode was. I, like, had this legit. My character was super rich and my brother wasn't. So he had, like, a shitty Iron man costume. And I had like. Yeah, yeah. I had, like, a legit.

[Stavros Halkias]

Yeah, yeah.

[Jimmy Tatro]

But it was. You can't put that thing on yourself. So I had literally four people. I had to get there, like, an hour early and stand there in this little, like, red onesie. Like, you know those green guys? The green ones. It was like that, but red. And I would stand there like this in the morning. And then it was like these big things on my fingers, so I couldn't use my hands. And I had to be like, coffee. And someone would come over with a little straw.

[Caller]

Yeah.

[Jimmy Tatro]

And I also couldn't sit down.

[Stavros Halkias]

Yeah.

[Jimmy Tatro]

Because they were worried it would break. So they had crutches for me and I would just. I would just lean. They just had a little thing for me to lean on.

[Stavros Halkias]

Yeah.

[Jimmy Tatro]

And then one time they laid me down and I had to just. I was like, apple box.

[Stavros Halkias]

Yeah, yeah, yeah.

[Jimmy Tatro]

And I just was like. I just couldn't move. They're like, are you all right? I'm like, yeah, yeah. I'm just resting.

[Stavros Halkias]

Yeah, I'm good. Like, have you heard, like, the grit. When Jim Carrey did the Grinch and they literally had to teach him. I was reading it. They did. They just put out some, like. Like oral history of it. And they literally brought in a guy who trained, like, Green Berets or guys with anti torture techniques. So he was just in there like. Like, as if he was getting water. He had. He had the same training that people getting waterboard had. He was saying it sucked that much,

[Jimmy Tatro]

but it makes sense because there for, like, seven hours.

[Stavros Halkias]

Yeah.

[Jimmy Tatro]

And also, you probably get a little. Imagine first thing you wake up. Like, it sucks to put makeup on in the morning when you're like, my Face isn't even awake yet and you're covering it, dude.

[Stavros Halkias]

Yeah, this is the first time I've worn makeup, but I'm like, women do this every day. Every day. It's crazy.

[Jimmy Tatro]

But then, like, imagine, I don't know, the Grinch makeup. Yeah, dude, I, I feel like I'd be claustrophobic in there. Like, you're sitting in there and it's all hairy and you're just like, like, were you like getting in your mouth?

[Stavros Halkias]

Oh, yeah. You don't want that. Who knows what that's made of? Who knows what that. Those are synthetic fibers for sure. It's officially summer, folks. And boy, what a summer are we having. We got championships to celebrate, countless games to watch, and good old fashioned fun to be had. Like riding a scooter even though you're a frill grown adult.

[Jimmy Tatro]

Hmm.

[Stavros Halkias]

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[Jimmy Tatro]

What were you.

[Stavros Halkias]

What were you up to? You're more of a jock.

[Jimmy Tatro]

I was more jockey.

[Stavros Halkias]

Yeah.

[Jimmy Tatro]

But I. I made videos. Like, I've always made videos.

[Stavros Halkias]

Yeah.

[Jimmy Tatro]

That was just kind of like, I got a video camera when I was like, my parents had camera and I would. And I would, like, make skate videos. And that was kind of my entry to filmmaking.

[Stavros Halkias]

Yeah, yeah. With skate videos.

[Jimmy Tatro]

Skate videos. Because also skate videos were, like, funny.

[Stavros Halkias]

Yeah. Yeah.

[Jimmy Tatro]

And so I would like the CKY

[Stavros Halkias]

school of skate videos.

[Jimmy Tatro]

Yeah.

[Stavros Halkias]

You know what I mean? Like the Proto Jackass school of.

[Jimmy Tatro]

Yeah.

[Stavros Halkias]

Because Jackass did come out.

[Jimmy Tatro]

It was like. Yeah. So I would see those. And then I kind of would do, like. We'd do our skating stuff and then do like a little sketch. Like a little comedy sketch. And then. And I was also. I kind of learned how to edit a little bit, even though I didn't have an editing program, because I would just, like, I had a boombox and I would hit play and record at the same time.

[Stavros Halkias]

Camera.

[Jimmy Tatro]

And then. But the funny part is I couldn't. I wasn't editing it. So we'd shoot all the bales at the end. You know, keep in mind, I'm like nine, of course.

[Stavros Halkias]

But like, we're talking.

[Jimmy Tatro]

We're like, all right, time for the bales portion. And it would just be us fake falling, you know, for the bails. Yeah, yeah. And then it was like, intercut with little sketches.

[Stavros Halkias]

The tricks are so easy. You can't fail. You're like, all right, let's pretend we did. Yeah, yeah, yeah.

[Jimmy Tatro]

It was just like, some of them were obvious, Some of them were obvious, some of them weren't. Yeah. But that was, like, how I started.

[Stavros Halkias]

Okay.

[Jimmy Tatro]

Making, like, sketches. And once I got to high school, I took a TV production class, learned how to edit.

[Stavros Halkias]

Gotcha.

[Jimmy Tatro]

And then that was where I really started making videos for fun. And then in college, I started. Yeah. The YouTube channel.

[Stavros Halkias]

How good were you at skating? What was the best thing you ever pulled off?

[Jimmy Tatro]

Dude, I could, like, tray flip.

[Stavros Halkias]

Okay, that's not bad, but I. Yeah, the crowd loves it, dude.

[Jimmy Tatro]

Yeah, man.

[Stavros Halkias]

This man can fucking tray flip

[Jimmy Tatro]

pretty much.

[Stavros Halkias]

Eldis, I remember you had a brief attempt at skating.

[Angie Hicks]

Yes, I was. I really wanted to be good at skating, but I was always a bit o fish.

[Stavros Halkias]

A big large maybe. I can't imagine a worse body type for skating than your body.

[Angie Hicks]

Absolutely.

[Jimmy Tatro]

That's a tough thing to realize. Like, so some things you're just not built.

[Stavros Halkias]

It's just not gonna happen.

[Jimmy Tatro]

And I'm. I've always been, you know, a little stocky.

[Stavros Halkias]

Yeah. Yeah.

[Jimmy Tatro]

And that's not ideal for skating. You want to be a little more wiry, but that's not an excuse. I just didn't have what it takes.

[Stavros Halkias]

No, it's all right, man. It's okay. I know. It's like some growing. Like, as a kid, you realize, like, skaters a were cool. Like, I feel like we grew up. We're around the same age. We grew up in the era where, like, the skate in the white community, the skater boy was, like, the guy everybody wanted to suck off for sure. Because it was like. And it was because they were athletic, but, like, model. You had to have kind of a model body to be good at, you know, like, a little stocky guy's not gonna cut it. You had to have kind of like. Like the sort of Jack Skellington, but, like. But cool and with. And a little athletic. And there was like a bad boy element to it. And there's. Those guys were cleaning up in the 2000s, 100 it was. That's who. And I understand why, Elders, you wanted to be those guys. I never even considered it an option. For whatever reason, I think I was sort of like, pretending I was a good. Like, I was a jock, too, where I was like, I'm in sixth grade. My origin story is I did not get the part. I did not get Charlie Brown. And you're a good man, Charlie Brown. And then I was like, fuck art, dude. I'm a fucking jock. You're going to fucking pass me over for Charlie Brown, you fucking idiots. I'll show you who got it. You know, I don't even know. And I also lost funniest class clown in high school.

[Jimmy Tatro]

That's tough.

[Stavros Halkias]

But it was a closeted black guy, and gay black dudes are the funniest people on earth. And afterwards, he's kind of come out, has a full life. He has a Husband now. So it's like I can't even really be mad.

[Jimmy Tatro]

Yeah.

[Stavros Halkias]

I didn't lose it to like some guy who like, you know, know. I don't know, a lower grade class clown. And also, you know, that would have been tough if it was a C.

[Jimmy Tatro]

As a class clown myself.

[Stavros Halkias]

Yes. Did you win? Did you?

[Jimmy Tatro]

Back to back eighth grade and then high school.

[Stavros Halkias]

Wow. First you're Trey flipping, now you're winning back to back to back. Now you're just rubbing salt in my wounds.

[Angie Hicks]

Yeah.

[Stavros Halkias]

Give him the blue, Ellis. Jimmy.

[Jimmy Tatro]

Yeah, man. But with the skating I, you know what's funny is I. My mom was very protective and we. I grew up in Venice and I was hanging out with these guys that were like five years older than me. And so she was like. And like, you know, this kid with this kid Kevin, he would always like pick up cigarettes off the ground and smoke them all. Damn, that kid insane.

[Stavros Halkias]

That guy's awesome.

[Jimmy Tatro]

And by the way, I don't like you hanging out with Kevin. He like keyed my dad's car, but they had me wearing like, they made me wear helmets and like pads for a long time. And so I was like robo kid out there. And I was good. But like it really, of course style.

[Stavros Halkias]

Cuz it's about sty. It's mostly lifestyle. Yeah. It's like guys who become good. It kind of is by accident. It's mostly to just smoke cigarettes on the ground. You know, be. Be a, be a 16 year old that's like, you know.

[Jimmy Tatro]

Yeah. Who doesn't give a.

[Stavros Halkias]

Who does. Who's dropped. Who dropped out of middle school somehow and his parents don't care.

[Jimmy Tatro]

How are you skipping middle school? Yeah.

[Stavros Halkias]

And plenty of those guys did, by the way. So Venice, we're talking like the classic boardwalk situation? Is that what I mean?

[Caller]

Or.

[Jimmy Tatro]

Well, it's funny because people are like, oh, you grew up in Venice skating, like at skate park. Must have been amazing. Like dude, they put that in like 10 years ago, maybe 15 years ago.

[Stavros Halkias]

You were in.

[Jimmy Tatro]

Yeah, I had already left Venice. I moved when I was like 14. But the Venice Skate park used to just be like, it's actually still there.

[Stavros Halkias]

Right.

[Jimmy Tatro]

It's just like people now are like, oh, look at this little walkway on the way to, to the real, to the real skate park. It was nothing. It was like this little tiny curb ramp and then like one rail thing.

[Stavros Halkias]

Yeah, yeah, yeah.

[Jimmy Tatro]

And that was it.

[Stavros Halkias]

That sounds like a fun crew though. I mean being hanging out with kids 5 years older when you're like 11 is that your parents were so right. That's the danger zone for sure. Cause it's like that, like those kids are straight up. Like some of them are smoking crack. And you know, like I grew up in Baltimore. There were definitely kids who were like, oh wow, these motherfuckers are doing drugs now. Like there were kids who were just. I remember a kid came to school high in middle school and I was like, we're doing drugs. I was like so scared. I was like, fuck, I'm not ready to do drugs yet. I was like, literally like, no, I'm not gonna be cool. Cause this kid wasn't cool either. And it immediately he catapulted to cool guy. One of the biggest dorks of all time. All he had to do was have a sad home life and have access to marijuana as a 12 year old. And everyone was like, like, dude, that kid's awesome. And then he got. Yeah. And then he really. I, I respect that kid. Cuz then he went into becoming the one straight guy in the drama program, which is a smart move if you want women's attention as a loser. But he did everything. I have to tip my cap. If you do kids do drugs early. Do drugs early, you'll be cool.

[Jimmy Tatro]

Start early.

[Stavros Halkias]

And if you. And if women won't talk to you, just be the one straight guy in drama.

[Angie Hicks]

Drama.

[Stavros Halkias]

That one is actually a great. I kind of regret that that wasn't my path. Actually. The second one. Yeah, I would have, I would have, I would have a loved it. Clearly that's what I was meant to do. I don't know who I was pretending a five seven, 250. I'm like, I'm gonna make the NFL. I literally thought.

[Jimmy Tatro]

I also took way too long to come to terms with the fact that I wasn't gonna go to the NBA. Looking back on it, I was like, no one was able to talk some sense into me. Like, dude, just look at the facts. Yeah, yeah. You're five foot ten.

[Stavros Halkias]

Yeah. Yep. Y.

[Jimmy Tatro]

Look at the NBA. Watch a game. Watch five games. You don't see there's not one guy.

[Stavros Halkias]

No, there is your size. It's. He's the most skilled basketball player that's ever lived.

[Jimmy Tatro]

But I don't even know if there's a 510 guy in the league right now.

[Stavros Halkias]

Right now.

[Jimmy Tatro]

And a 510 white guy. Cuz it was like there was like a 5 guy, but it was not a 5 10.

[Stavros Halkias]

Got me there. No, you're right. Isaiah Thomas is the last guy who the Isaiah Thomas. The Celtics.

[Jimmy Tatro]

Yeah.

[Stavros Halkias]

Isaiah Thomas was. He was like. Like, honestly, he might have been five, nine. Dude, he was so.

[Jimmy Tatro]

He was short.

[Stavros Halkias]

Look up Isaiah Thomas. Height eldest. Please do some producing, for God's sakes. And wait.

[Jimmy Tatro]

No, I want to see what.

[Stavros Halkias]

Yeah, yeah, hold on.

[Angie Hicks]

59.

[Jimmy Tatro]

59.

[Stavros Halkias]

Nailed it.

[Jimmy Tatro]

I remember seeing Steve Nash and I was like, oh, short white guy. Looked him up, 63.

[Stavros Halkias]

I was like, oh, it's NBA players are the most. Like, what if you watch the game and then see them in person? It's the most jarring thing of all time. Because a guy you think is small, like, six three, right?

[Jimmy Tatro]

Yeah.

[Stavros Halkias]

Like Steph Curry, who we think of as a small shooting whatever, six three, you might maybe step. Yeah, I think Steph is six, three.

[Angie Hicks]

Six three.

[Jimmy Tatro]

Yeah.

[Stavros Halkias]

If you saw him next to, like, a defensive end, they wouldn't look that different, right? Like, Russell Westbrook is insane. Is like cr. If you saw that walking around, you'd be like, that's like a. Someone injected him with, like, super soldier serum. Like, he's so jacked. He's fucking huge. But, yeah, basketball players are the most, like, it just. It really tricks you into how huge these guys are.

[Jimmy Tatro]

Yeah. There's no way to explain to a kid, though, of course, hey, you can't do anything.

[Stavros Halkias]

Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah.

[Jimmy Tatro]

Your body does limit you in some

[Stavros Halkias]

career paths and your mind, you know, let's be honest about that also. But, yeah, you have to tell a kid. You basically, to raise a child. Well, have to lie to it first and then kind of slowly reveal. Let them figure it out for themselves.

[Jimmy Tatro]

Be like, Stavros, you sure you want to be a swimmer? Yeah, yeah, I'm gonna swim. Yeah.

[Stavros Halkias]

Yeah. Just trying to backstroke. I skipped swimming, and we had a swimming portion in high school, and I was. That was the tail end of my fat shame. And I was like, I can't be fucking titties out in 10th grade. But I kind of regret it now because I. I. To this day, I'm a poor swimmer, I think, because I skipped that program. And then in college, I was like, let me take swimming now. I'll actually learn.

[Jimmy Tatro]

You took swimming in college?

[Stavros Halkias]

Well, there you had to get, like, two PE credits, basically, like, in. At my school.

[Jimmy Tatro]

Interesting.

[Stavros Halkias]

And I never graduated, by the way, but. But I took the swimming class. I was like, this will be good. It'll chance for me to learn, be a stronger swimmer. I just never went. And I was like, it's pe. I'll just take it next semester. And they passed me and I was like, great. Well, never have to take a swimming class again.

[Jimmy Tatro]

You had PE in college?

[Stavros Halkias]

Yeah.

[Jimmy Tatro]

Like, is that a normal thing?

[Stavros Halkias]

Like, yeah, a couple gym credits. I feel like elders do. You did in Maryland, you have to take gym?

[Angie Hicks]

I don't think so.

[Jimmy Tatro]

I think high school was the end of P.E.

[Stavros Halkias]

well, you know, the University of Maryland, Baltimore county, disagrees with you.

[Jimmy Tatro]

They need. They need their kids swimming.

[Stavros Halkias]

They need them swimming. It is a dork school. So it's maybe kind of like, hey, hey, let's let these. Let's let these guys come out with a little. Little something going.

[Jimmy Tatro]

I used to. I swim a lot in college. I went to the University of Arizona.

[Stavros Halkias]

Oh, hell yeah, dude.

[Jimmy Tatro]

And they had a beautiful swimming pool,

[Stavros Halkias]

rigorous academic program, rigorous academics.

[Jimmy Tatro]

And they had. The swimming pool at the school was, like, comically cool.

[Stavros Halkias]

Oh, wait, wait. Arizona is Wildcats. Not son.

[Jimmy Tatro]

Wildcats.

[Stavros Halkias]

Sun Devils.

[Jimmy Tatro]

Sun Devils are the rigorous academics.

[Stavros Halkias]

That's grinding.

[Jimmy Tatro]

Gronk. Yeah. Yeah, Gronk. But the. The gronk is U of A. Gronk is you. Oh, yeah, yeah. And. But they had this swimming pool that was like. I mean, it felt in college like. Like it was like a Vegas.

[Stavros Halkias]

Yeah.

[Jimmy Tatro]

You know, like, everyone just is there.

[Stavros Halkias]

Oh, Like a fun hangout.

[Jimmy Tatro]

Like, it was a fun hangout, but then it also was, like, this beautiful lap pool. And we would just get so high and go swim laps.

[Stavros Halkias]

Put the goggles on.

[Jimmy Tatro]

And put the goggles on. And we'd be, like, in there doing, like, ninja battles, like, in the deep end. And the lifeguard. We were doing, like, these SW workouts, but they were like. They looked weird from above. They must have.

[Angie Hicks]

Yeah.

[Jimmy Tatro]

And one day, the lifeguard was like, what are you guys doing? See you guys. You come here, like, three times a week to swim laps.

[Stavros Halkias]

Like, yeah, yeah, yeah.

[Jimmy Tatro]

What are you doing? We're like, oh. We came up with, like, a little. Little swim workout thing that we do.

[Caller]

Hell, yeah.

[Jimmy Tatro]

She's like, okay. And we realized that they were just watching us from the lifeguard tower, just, like, looking down, looking down. And we're literally in the deep end, like, doing, like, doing karate at each other.

[Stavros Halkias]

Tai chi that you developed like, that we developed.

[Jimmy Tatro]

We were, like, playing games. We had, like, a whole workout program. Like, we'd go across just, like, doing this and. And the. They had underwater speakers, so we were really vibing out.

[Stavros Halkias]

That's cool.

[Jimmy Tatro]

And sometimes the synchronized swimmers would be practicing.

[Stavros Halkias]

That's cool.

[Jimmy Tatro]

And we could watch them from under.

[Stavros Halkias]

If you're high, that's all.

[Jimmy Tatro]

Oh, man, you're like under there. Watching synchronized swimmers. Yeah. Have this little, like, formation.

[Stavros Halkias]

Yeah.

[Jimmy Tatro]

That they go up to the top and launch.

[Stavros Halkias]

Yeah.

[Jimmy Tatro]

Very cool.

[Stavros Halkias]

That is cool. I would love to do. I would love to sit underwater and just watch some crazy like that. Because I was. I don't know how the. They do synchronized swimming. That's some where you're like, I do. Yeah, yeah, yeah.

[Jimmy Tatro]

You've seen it.

[Stavros Halkias]

That's right. You've seen the practice. You see how the sausage is made?

[Jimmy Tatro]

And they're in there. They got a. The. They got a microphone that's going to the water. And they're like, 1, 1, 2, 3, 4, 5. And then they're just like going through the. But they create to throw someone like this pyramid.

[Stavros Halkias]

Okay.

[Jimmy Tatro]

Underwater pyramid.

[Stavros Halkias]

Yeah.

[Jimmy Tatro]

And they're all like bicycling and they all rise together. And then the person at the top is able to do like, a little trick, but it's like a whole pyramid of.

[Angie Hicks]

Yeah.

[Stavros Halkias]

Yeah. The tip of the iceberg. It's got to be nice to be the tip.

[Jimmy Tatro]

Yeah.

[Stavros Halkias]

You know, you're the baddest in the synchronized swimming. It's got to be tough to be the bot. Like, it's classic as again. Speaking of someone who's never touched even the second layer of a human pyramid, I wonder what it's like up there. You know what I mean? What's the highest. You ever been on a human pyramid?

[Jimmy Tatro]

I was never a top guy.

[Stavros Halkias]

Never a top guy. Maybe you guys are the second.

[Jimmy Tatro]

I was probably like, second.

[Stavros Halkias]

You feel like a second rung guy.

[Caller]

Yeah.

[Stavros Halkias]

Yeah. Oh, I'm. I'm a cornerstone, dude. I'm right at the bottom.

[Jimmy Tatro]

You know what I mean?

[Stavros Halkias]

Like, I might be right in the middle of the bottom.

[Jimmy Tatro]

The bottom. Yeah.

[Stavros Halkias]

Yeah. One day. One day I'll know what it's like at the top. I had a very. I wonder if I could start the first incredibly fat man synchronized swimming club.

[Jimmy Tatro]

That would be fun to watch that.

[Stavros Halkias]

You want to talk about a fun watch underwater?

[Jimmy Tatro]

I would watch that like an amateur, too. Not like the. Not the best.

[Stavros Halkias]

No. Just for the love of the game.

[Jimmy Tatro]

Like an amateur, immature fat man swimming synchronized.

[Stavros Halkias]

Yes. Yes. Because there's got to be some great swimmers that got fat, and we need them right in the mont. In the recruitment montage. I'm. That's what I'm. That's how I'm starting. I'm going to, like, former college, like, you know, national champions and looking them up on. On Instagram being like, who's gotten fat here? You know, it's not going to just be men. I thought about this. It could be coed. You know what I mean? Let's get some. Let's get some. You know.

[Caller]

Yeah.

[Stavros Halkias]

You know that fat. Some. Let's get some fat ladies.

[Jimmy Tatro]

Well, you're definitely. If. If it's coed, you're definitely not getting to the top of the pyramid.

[Stavros Halkias]

You're right. It's gotta be. You're right, you're right, you're right.

[Caller]

Or.

[Stavros Halkias]

Yeah. Or we really prioritize very, very fat women because I feel like they're. They're forgotten in our society, Maybe the most forgotten group. And we make them our. I make them our superstars. Thank you. That's right. Yeah. If you're. If you're an incredibly fat woman who's good at swimming and fatter than me. I know that's this guy I'm describing maybe one person I'm describing. Maybe.

[Jimmy Tatro]

But, brother, she is on the edge of her seat right now.

[Stavros Halkias]

I don't even know how that happens, but we're gonna find you. Okay. All right. This is good. Let's put a pin in that eldest. Let's put the very fat, the incredibly fat people's. And it's for the people, by the way. The people. The obese. Let's come up with a catchy name. The Obese Ladies and gentlemen's Aquatic Club.

[Jimmy Tatro]

Ooh. Aquatics. I like aquatics.

[Stavros Halkias]

Obese aquatics.

[Jimmy Tatro]

Aquatics is good.

[Stavros Halkias]

Obese aquatics is obese aquatics. Obese aquatics is a nice starting point because, again, the incredibly fat people do get forgotten. Especially I feel like aquatically, because there's so much less clothing that you can hide behind. This is going to be a good. This is going to be good.

[Angie Hicks]

Good.

[Stavros Halkias]

There's gonna be a big body, positive

[Jimmy Tatro]

thing, because I think also a little bit of fat is helpful in the water. Helps you float.

[Stavros Halkias]

It helps you float. And we're gonna be doing a lot of floating. There's gonna be a lot of locking arms and floating and, like, kind of wiggling our feet, you know, like, we'll figure this out. We'll figure this out. Thank you for being here and kind of spurring this. This momentum, this creative momentum, you know? I am a homeowner in Baltimore City, not quite in New York, where I live most of the time I'm not doing that well just yet. But in Baltimore, I'm a homeowner, and I do a couple DIY projects. You know, improving my bathroom, getting a new closet organization system installed. Doing things yourself isn't just about saving money. It's Knowing the job was done right on your schedule without overpriced, unreliable service contracts. Other pest control companies charge hundreds of dollars, but with Pesti you can get started at just $35 per treatment with a customized plan based on your location, bugs and climate. Pesti gets rid of over 100 types of bugs, from spiders and ants to roaches and scorpions. Their DIY kit includes a sprayer, mixing bag, pesticide gloves and instructions you can complete in less than 10 minutes. Such an easy experience using Pesti. When I first moved to Miami, new apartment in New York. Unfortunately we had some water bugs, roaches. I don't know what you're going to call them. Got with Pesti, cleared it right up. I love it. You're going to love it. What are you waiting for? Fix your bug problem before it gets worse. Go to peste.comstavi for an extra 10% off your order today. That's P-S-T-I-E.comstavi for an extra ten percent off. If you've been sitting on a business idea, Shopify makes it easy to make it happen. Everything you need to start selling is included and ready from day one, including the moment your first customer is ready to pay. Shopify checkout helps more of them finish their purchase. And when they come back, their details are already saved. One tap and they're done. And because Shopify handles the setup and checkout, you have more time to focus on growing your business and the tools to do it. It's no secret here we use Shopify on the Stavi biz merch store. Shopify is how we sell our calendars, our T shirts. We love them. It completely leveled up our merch game when we started using Shopify. It's gonna do the same for your business. With Shopify, nothing stands between your idea and a real business. So go make it one. Start your free trial at shopify.com stavi start your free trial at shopify dot com stavi I love that dude. So, so it was from skating to hoops. What was your greatest hoops glory? Was it like an AAU game, a high school game?

[Jimmy Tatro]

It was not in high. It was not my high school. It was like club. My high school coach, he didn't like me too much.

[Stavros Halkias]

Oh no. This, this shows you how much like in your head it's like you're successful. Like you have a successful career in. In a very hard to you.

[Advertisement Voice]

You.

[Stavros Halkias]

You're like to be an actor is so tough like, like out of the Internet like we said and you're still like, man, my high school basketball coach. Because I still think of that. But with my Greek Orthodox Youth of America basketball coach. That's right. The highest basketball I ever played was Greek church league basketball.

[Jimmy Tatro]

Okay.

[Stavros Halkias]

Yeah.

[Jimmy Tatro]

Okay. How many teams?

[Stavros Halkias]

You know, we had a good. Every. There's a. There's a. Every church has a team. We'd have tournaments. It was fun.

[Jimmy Tatro]

This is in Baltimore.

[Stavros Halkias]

Baltimore. And you would go up and down the east coast, you know, as far south as Newport News, Virginia, as far north as somewhere in Pennsylvania.

[Jimmy Tatro]

You know, I was like, damn, you're traveling. And then I was like, coming from California, that's pretty much like going to Fresno.

[Stavros Halkias]

That's nothing. Oh, yeah, Fresno. What a horrible place.

[Jimmy Tatro]

I would, I would feel myself because, you know, I was, I was a shooter, but if I was too far behind three point line, because I could shoot from deep, but I would, If I would start the shooting motion, I would see him already calling for a sub. And like, that scarred me so deeply. Just like getting ready to shoot and just seeing him being like, go get gym. Yeah. And then I would, like, if I hit it, he'd call off the sub.

[Stavros Halkias]

Oh, wow.

[Jimmy Tatro]

This is such an unhealthy way to play. I'm just constantly in my head. I cared so much.

[Stavros Halkias]

You shake it. Especially at that time. You really think, Think he's stopping you from the NBA?

[Jimmy Tatro]

I really did. And also I. Because I. I went to like a. I went to a camp. I did really well at this camp. I made like the all star team.

[Stavros Halkias]

Yeah, that feels good.

[Jimmy Tatro]

And that felt good because that might be my thing. That might.

[Stavros Halkias]

I mean, honestly, because there's probably like, did you ever. Because I love when people have the stories of like the one random NBA player in like a camp or a high school.

[Jimmy Tatro]

There was a few at the. It was the double pump camp, which was like a big camp. And I made the all star team. I play in the All Star game. And then I start getting letters from Yale and I was like, oh, I can maybe. Am I going to go play basketball for Yale?

[Stavros Halkias]

Yeah, yeah, yeah.

[Jimmy Tatro]

They come watch me play. My coach plays me for one minute, that game.

[Stavros Halkias]

Oh, my God.

[Jimmy Tatro]

Puts me in. Puts me in to take the game. Winning a shot and that's it.

[Stavros Halkias]

Did you make it?

[Jimmy Tatro]

No, no, dude. Puts me in there like 30 seconds on the clock. I'm pissed off. I'm like, yale came to this game. I don't play. I don't play. One minute. And he's like, jim,

[Stavros Halkias]

ice cold.

[Jimmy Tatro]

What?

[Stavros Halkias]

Hey, man, Biggest moment of the game. Ice cold.

[Jimmy Tatro]

You're pissing me off. Brings me in to hit the game. Winning shot. I miss.

[Stavros Halkias]

You're a child, too. Like, you don't have the psyche.

[Jimmy Tatro]

17. Yale stopped call this guy.

[Stavros Halkias]

Dude, I don't. I don't like your coach.

[Jimmy Tatro]

No, me neither, man.

[Stavros Halkias]

You. Dude. Dude, Jimmy's too good of a guy to say it, but you, man, yeah, you. You really need to rethink what you're doing.

[Jimmy Tatro]

Sucked all the fun out of the game, man.

[Angie Hicks]

Yeah.

[Jimmy Tatro]

Yeah. We look back on it. I talked to him. Like, my buddies were like, damn, He. He really. He really sucked all the fun out. We're sitting there, like, doing, like. He, like, watched Coach Carter and was

[Stavros Halkias]

like, yeah, well, dude, you get this.

[Jimmy Tatro]

Like, yeah, I'm gonna run these kids like that.

[Stavros Halkias]

It's. Yeah.

[Jimmy Tatro]

And I'm like, But they're. They're like, they have the talent.

[Stavros Halkias]

Of course.

[Jimmy Tatro]

We need to be shooting the ball.

[Stavros Halkias]

Yeah, yeah.

[Jimmy Tatro]

We're, like, doing defensive slides all practice.

[Stavros Halkias]

And by the way, you guys were hilariously right. That's exactly where the game went right after you, basically. Because, like, shooting and, like, spread the floor. Whatever. The high school coach is a fascinating guy in general because you get so many people, like, so many losers, like, who failed out of everything, kind of of launder. Like, they just. Basically, they. If they don't have it, if they don't take it out on their kids, they're like, what if I could take it out on 40 of somebody else's kids? You know what I mean? Like, what if my life failures could be a bunch of children's problems?

[Jimmy Tatro]

Yeah. And they're like, wait, all these kids are taking me really seriously.

[Stavros Halkias]

Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah.

[Jimmy Tatro]

They're kind of hanging on to every word I say.

[Stavros Halkias]

This is the first time anyone's ever respected me.

[Advertisement Voice]

Wow.

[Jimmy Tatro]

They have to listen to me.

[Stavros Halkias]

It's crazy how many guys are so fucking bad at it.

[Jimmy Tatro]

And then they're like, I either do this or I become a cop.

[Caller]

Yeah.

[Jimmy Tatro]

It's kind of the same. Kind of the same mentality.

[Stavros Halkias]

Oh, man. Imagine the guys that are both top high school football coach, maybe the worst guy of all time. No, you're so right. That is like. Yeah. That's like, if you're too much of a coward to be a police officer, but you still want to abuse your

[Jimmy Tatro]

authority, still want some power.

[Stavros Halkias]

You gotta be a high school coach. That's a great show. Hey, I don't know, man. You should. You should play your shitty.

[Caller]

You.

[Stavros Halkias]

That's how you get it. You get it back at him. You make a show about a loser. Basically. You make, like, Ted Lasso.

[Jimmy Tatro]

But, like, but if he was.

[Stavros Halkias]

But if it's real.

[Jimmy Tatro]

But a bad guy.

[Stavros Halkias]

Yeah. Just a piece of.

[Jimmy Tatro]

Yeah.

[Stavros Halkias]

Where. Yeah, yeah, yeah. You make, like, just.

[Advertisement Voice]

That's.

[Stavros Halkias]

Honestly, I like this dude.

[Jimmy Tatro]

It's not bad.

[Stavros Halkias]

Write this down. I'll just write that down. Right next to obese aquatics. I did want to do a show, be aquatics. You can have the basketball.

[Jimmy Tatro]

I did want to do a show about, like, the, About a group of guys that, like, decide to start coaching, like, rec league basketball.

[Stavros Halkias]

Yeah.

[Jimmy Tatro]

Like, as a bet.

[Stavros Halkias]

Yeah, yeah.

[Jimmy Tatro]

And then they all become super invested in, like, their teams.

[Stavros Halkias]

Totally. I like that.

[Jimmy Tatro]

Maybe there's some crossover.

[Stavros Halkias]

I think there's some crossover. You have to do it as a bet, and then you get invested in it. And if it's two different guys, one could do it for pure reasons, and the other one becomes a piece of shit. That could be another thing to see. It almost becomes like, how power corrupt. How even the smallest amount of power corrupts. I think that's good. I mean, truly, that's. That might be the proof of that theory. High school athletics.

[Jimmy Tatro]

Yeah.

[Stavros Halkias]

The smallest amount of power corrupts, and then you, like, go back and it's like, these guys that you idolized, you look at their resume, it's like he watched football. Like, some of these guys didn't even play or they played in high school, and now they're. And it's like, like, this guy's not a. I remember the summer. The summer I played football for a couple years, and the summer my senior year, they fired the coach who I liked and hired, like, a real old disciplinarian. Like, a guy had been coaching high school football for, like, 30 years, and I just quit. I was like, I'm not doing this. I'm not running to. I don't care, dude.

[Jimmy Tatro]

You're like, I, I, I'm contingent on the coach.

[Stavros Halkias]

Yeah, 100%.

[Jimmy Tatro]

We had a guy that he, he, he just had this voice that, like, it cracked, like, every, every time, every other word.

[Stavros Halkias]

That's tough.

[Jimmy Tatro]

And when he used to scream at us, he'd come in and like, come on, Cyrus.

[Caller]

What's going on?

[Angie Hicks]

Yeah.

[Stavros Halkias]

Yeah.

[Jimmy Tatro]

And he had this, like, squeaky voice. And I would do these impressions of him. So, like, he'd, like, he would, like, do this whole thing. And he also got, like, really animated where he'd be like, you're going out there, you're showboating around.

[Stavros Halkias]

What are you doing?

[Jimmy Tatro]

And. And I started doing these impressions.

[Stavros Halkias]

I know the impressions.

[Jimmy Tatro]

Like, he'd le.

[Stavros Halkias]

And I'd, like, come on.

[Jimmy Tatro]

And then. So it became like when he started going on that, like, rampage.

[Stavros Halkias]

People were looking.

[Jimmy Tatro]

Everyone would start, like. Like, you could just feel the room trying so hard not to laugh. Like, oh, he's getting squeaky. Yeah. And then it's just like those moments, you know, when you look around and you just make eye contact with your friend. Neither can smile. Yeah. And it's like you just give him that. That look from across the room. The complete deadpan look. And you just see. You just see the whole room just, like, with their. With their heads down, dude.

[Stavros Halkias]

The flip side of, like, the authoritarian piece of shit coach is the guy who really is trying to, in his mind, was trying to help children and is a nice guy and gets bullied by children. Because that also happened my first. My JV soccer coach, some guy named Sandy. We lit him up, dude.

[Jimmy Tatro]

He tried.

[Stavros Halkias]

He tried to discipline us. And it was like. Like we had a bunch of delinquent pieces of shit on there. Like, so we were, like, smoking weed behind the CVS before practice, and we literally just made this guy quit coaching. And then they hired really quickly. They hired just a. Just a guy. They didn't do a background check. I knew the guy.

[Jimmy Tatro]

He.

[Stavros Halkias]

This is crazy. This coincidence is insane. He happened to. He was a former deacon in my church who was arrested. He robbed the church. He did an Ocean's Eleven heist on, like, the fucking church candle money. It was like, him and a fucking guy. Him and a guy now who has a very successful career, literally working on the docs from season two of the Wire. They. They masterminded this thing. And I was in a position where only I knew this guy was a criminal who clearly didn't pass a background check. They were just trying to, like, replace the coach. So I had all this, like, wait,

[Jimmy Tatro]

you knew about this? But people didn't know? How did you know?

[Stavros Halkias]

Because I went to the church. I knew him. He was a Greek guy from my church.

[Jimmy Tatro]

He was just known at the church

[Stavros Halkias]

A couple years ago, like, three or four years prior to this, this guy had quit. He had been kicked out of the priesthood because he tried. Him and a guy from the neighborhood robbed the church.

[Jimmy Tatro]

Like a heist. The most elementary scheme.

[Stavros Halkias]

It's so pathetic.

[Jimmy Tatro]

Like, that seems like the kind of heist that, like, a kid came up with 100% and was like, hey, we should steal this money that's going around. Like, it's the one that they pass around, right?

[Stavros Halkias]

You see dollar bills.

[Jimmy Tatro]

What if we stole that?

[Stavros Halkias]

Well, there must be fifteen hundred dollars. Yeah.

[Jimmy Tatro]

Imagine what they have in the back. Maybe, you know, maybe over a thousand.

[Stavros Halkias]

It's. Dude, literally it was. I believe it was during Holy Week. The one smart thing they did was they waited for Holy Week where people are coming and I. And they robbed it after Holy Week. But it was like you immediately. They immediately got caught.

[Jimmy Tatro]

And the church is like, we're looking for were. We're missing $750. Yeah, we're missing a lot of money.

[Stavros Halkias]

Yeah. You just ruined your life for so little money. But anyway, that's the neighborhood I come from. Anyway, I. So I had all this leverage over him. So it was like I was starting. It was awesome, dude. And it was kind of this on. He knew I knew I was like, hey, man. And I never said anything. And then this guy later on would give child pornography. Not literally, not enough molestation way. And they. I'm so pathetic. I want this child to think I'm cool way. And he got fired for that. It was all. It was actually pretty, pretty hysterical. That's.

[Jimmy Tatro]

So you were starting because you had dirt on this guy.

[Stavros Halkias]

Exactly. Right. I had. I was blackmailing my coach as a fat 14 year old. I was pretty good. I was. Listen, I was just too fat.

[Jimmy Tatro]

No, it wasn't hard for him to start.

[Stavros Halkias]

No, no, no, no. Look, he could figure out a way. No one was that surprised. I was on the cusp, right. It was between me and a different guy.

[Jimmy Tatro]

You.

[Stavros Halkias]

Listen, you had to put me either up top or down below. I'm not running back and forth. Yeah, I'll score you some goals. I'll stop some goals. I was either a striker or a, you know, stopper at the end, but. But then, yes, he got kicked out. And that's how I got to play football. It's just a very Rube Goldberg machine of my, you know, of my athletic career. And at the time I was like, yeah, I'm going. I'm going D1. I'm going D1. Because I was good at JV football in Baltimore.

[Jimmy Tatro]

You know what I mean?

[Stavros Halkias]

It was so fucking well, you come out of.

[Caller]

Of.

[Jimmy Tatro]

You come out of. Like, I came out of flag football in eighth grade. Like, I'm. I'm among the best in the nation. I entered high school football like they, they've never seen anything like this. You know, I'm like, I can throw, I can run, I can catch. Yeah, what can I do? I'm playing both ways. I'm returning kicks.

[Caller]

I got, like.

[Jimmy Tatro]

I'm having, like, four or five touchdowns a game.

[Stavros Halkias]

Dude.

[Jimmy Tatro]

And then I get to. Then I get to my high school. First time I played tackle.

[Stavros Halkias]

And you're playing in. In where? Like, outside of. I feel like California has some great.

[Jimmy Tatro]

Dude. I went to Notre Dame High School, which was like, you know, we had, like, a factory. And freshman year, I'm playing against Anthony Barr.

[Stavros Halkias]

Oh, wow.

[Jimmy Tatro]

Who's a running back at the time.

[Stavros Halkias]

Insane.

[Jimmy Tatro]

And I. And I tackled him one time, but he. I brought him down.

[Stavros Halkias]

Yeah, yeah, yeah.

[Jimmy Tatro]

But he won.

[Stavros Halkias]

Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. Like.

[Jimmy Tatro]

Like on top me. And I just remember, like, laying there and being like, I don't want it. Like, these guys. This isn't for me.

[Stavros Halkias]

The moment where you're like, fuck that. I mean, I had that same moment when I. I literally went to the first practice, looked at them running, and did not go back. And then I was like, you know what? I'll play soccer again. I was. By the way, I gotten so fat playing two years of football. And I. I was a telemarketer next to a Wendy's. That was my summer job. I ate. Ate two Junior bacon cheeseburgers every day for a summer. That's not how you should be training to get back into soccer. That's the nose tackles diet.

[Caller]

Yeah.

[Stavros Halkias]

And then I immediately pulled a hamstring, and I was like, this. I'm not playing sports.

[Jimmy Tatro]

We did. You know those drills where you, like, you turn and then one you're trying to. Like, the guy's trying to get by you and you're trying to tackle him, and this guy Kamati just went. Lowered his shoulder and just.

[Caller]

We went.

[Jimmy Tatro]

Went, bam. Head to head. And I was like. I just remember being like, you're not supposed to do that. You're not supposed to coach. I was like, you're not supposed to go head to head, man. And I was like, oh, wait, they don't care. Like, we're like. We could damage our heads. And I remember I came out of that, like, I was, like, concerned. I was like, dude, you're not supposed to.

[Stavros Halkias]

Yeah.

[Jimmy Tatro]

And I was like, oh, he doesn't give a. Yeah.

[Stavros Halkias]

Yeah.

[Jimmy Tatro]

And I have to also not give a.

[Stavros Halkias]

Of course.

[Jimmy Tatro]

You're either the hammer or the nail, and I'm the nail here.

[Stavros Halkias]

Nail for sure. I got. Got a concussed bad by, like, this little guy. Like, we were playing. We were playing, like, maybe it was a scrimmage or some. I don't know. It was like, we traveled to. I don't even remember where the it was, but it was like the kind of thing where they. They swapped out, like, you know, first team, second team, whatever, and. Oh, that's right. It was my. When I got called up to varsity at the end of the season and we had like a final game, and it was. It was like, non competitive. So the last quarter, they were like, all right, let's let the jv. Let's let the JV kids and the shitty varsity kids kind of get a taste of real, you know, football or whatever. And I was a nose tackle, and the. The center was literally. This kid was like, five one. And I was like, this kid is food. I'm gonna. This kid up immediately. This little sucker comes up like a rocket, just hits head to head, hits me under the chin with his helmet moment. I'm seeing Looney Tunes stars and. And I just stayed in the game, like, being like, I'm not a. And I have no. I have. Dude, for real.

[Jimmy Tatro]

You're just in a constant state of, like, Mortal kombat. Literally, dude, 10 minutes.

[Stavros Halkias]

I'm. 10 minutes. I'm. Yeah, I'm like, if it was a boxing match, I'm clinching, but, like. But you couldn't do that. So I was just like, lining up, getting dominated by this, like, 5:1. And he was a little. It wasn't even that fat. It was just like a five one, little stocky guy. And I was like. Like, I can't even defeat this guy.

[Jimmy Tatro]

I'm. And this. You're like, this guy doesn't have a chance.

[Stavros Halkias]

No, dude, no. But he me up bad. And the. The. Yeah, I love this. Has become the guys remembering their pathetic. Their pathetic victories in high school.

[Jimmy Tatro]

Sports podcast

[Stavros Halkias]

brought to you. And remember, folks, hit the Visible Hotline, the Stavis Stav Roll Hotline brought to you by Visible Effect. Elders. Why don't we. Why don't we take some calls before we start talking about other ways people from our childhood wronged us?

[Angie Hicks]

Absolutely. And you know, this is. This is the Stavies Roll Hotline brought to you by Visible. It'd be appropriate to start with a question on the topic. It's very near and dear to our hearts with a man who needs a lot of help here.

[Advertisement Voice]

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[Caller]

hey, Steph. Hey, Elvis. Hey, esteemed guest. Hope you're doing well. Long time, first time. Got a bit of a conundrum for you. It's going to start out with a brag. I've got a lovely wife. Been together for about three years.

[Jimmy Tatro]

Okay.

[Caller]

She's got some great natties.

[Stavros Halkias]

Okay. Congrats on your express.

[Caller]

But we're expecting our first child here soon. We're at like 14. We.

[Stavros Halkias]

Hold on, man. Don't say my wife's got great tits. But we're expecting. But the most magical thing in the world is happening. But the whole reason humans exist, it's gonna put her tits in jeopardy. I, I assume that's what he's getting at. Let's. Let's go ahead. Maybe not.

[Caller]

And what's really cool is they're getting bigger. Very excited. But it's kind of like a bad wish on a genie here. They hurt. I'm not allowed to touch them.

[Stavros Halkias]

Oh, that's.

[Jimmy Tatro]

Don't know what to do.

[Caller]

I'm really excited to see them grow, but I'm not allowed to touch them. So hoping to get some advice from you. What are some great ways to appreciate the growing naturals while I got them without touching them.

[Stavros Halkias]

Dude, this is awesome.

[Caller]

Pretty tough stuff, but also very lucky. So hoping to see what you got to say.

[Stavros Halkias]

I have answers immediately.

[Caller]

Bye.

[Jimmy Tatro]

It could be a fun exercise, you know.

[Stavros Halkias]

Sure.

[Caller]

Yeah.

[Angie Hicks]

Yeah.

[Stavros Halkias]

In

[Jimmy Tatro]

observing.

[Stavros Halkias]

Observing. I was going to say get into photography. This is the get. Turn your shed into a dark room. Develop your own film. Because this is clearly a.

[Jimmy Tatro]

You've.

[Stavros Halkias]

You've gotten a visual bonus here. Right. This is visual. You can't touch them. You know, support her as much as you can. But yeah, I say get into charcoal etchings, oil painting. Now is your time. If there's ever something that would make me a learn how to be a fine artist, it would be my wife's tits getting huge and me wanting to.

[Jimmy Tatro]

Yeah.

[Stavros Halkias]

To.

[Jimmy Tatro]

For time to become a sculptor.

[Stavros Halkias]

Sculptor. Get some clay.

[Jimmy Tatro]

Throw down one of these.

[Stavros Halkias]

Yeah, yeah, absolutely. I think that's the answer. Get into high, high, high definition photography, painting, poetry, even. Like, this is awesome because this is the kind we. This Is the podcast for. Obviously you've. As you can tell from the very first call, for very stupid people. Right? Kind of imagine your characters. There's a thou. Every character you've ever played, clone them 4,000 times. That's basically who's listening to this podcast, right? Okay, so we're basically what we're saying here is like, like, yeah, this is good. This is the way guys like us can appreciate turn to art. This is your opportunity to understand art. You thought poems were gay until now. What about poems about how awesome and juicy your wife's breasts are? So I think this is a perfect moment for you to open up your horizons. This is your entry point into understanding the world of na. The world of natural beauty. Some people see it in a sunset, some people see it, some people see it in, you know, a beautiful fragrance. Right. Maybe you're walking by a pie shop and you smell delicious crust. Right?

[Jimmy Tatro]

There's float.

[Stavros Halkias]

You float over. You float over. You have some. You have a cherry tart. But for you, my friend, this is your entry point into understanding true beauty, existing. And I think that's, that's actually wonderful.

[Jimmy Tatro]

Yeah. And like you said, the poems, you know, that's a nice poem. You know, you're yearning for something that you can't have. Yes, that's a poem right there.

[Stavros Halkias]

That's actually really nice because this is on. You get to experience unrequited love with the person you love the most in the world because eventually you will get to touch her breasts again. But for now, absence makes the heart grow fonder. And you get to look at them and appreciate them from a purely aesthetic position.

[Jimmy Tatro]

And then this is different. But would, would she maybe let him just.

[Stavros Halkias]

Right.

[Jimmy Tatro]

Just hold them.

[Stavros Halkias]

Absolutely.

[Jimmy Tatro]

Take some of the pressure.

[Stavros Halkias]

Absolutely. Go behind in a non sexual way. Lift.

[Jimmy Tatro]

Yeah, just, just, just a little lift.

[Stavros Halkias]

Just a slight lift. And don't get greedy. Don't get greedy because now you're gonna just want to grab. Just takes a lift.

[Jimmy Tatro]

Just take some of the weight off.

[Stavros Halkias]

Take some of the weight off. You're only there to support her. And that's beautiful, by the way. Yeah, there's so much here. Maybe you could invent a sort of a hammock for her breast. You know, when you're not there, something to lift them up.

[Jimmy Tatro]

You're just talking about a bra, dude.

[Angie Hicks]

Yeah.

[Stavros Halkias]

But you know, you're like, you're like,

[Jimmy Tatro]

what if we invented it? Two breast hammocks, they lift, they hold and play.

[Angie Hicks]

Yeah.

[Stavros Halkias]

I think we're onto something.

[Jimmy Tatro]

I think we're onto something big man.

[Stavros Halkias]

The. The breast hammock. So hey man, good for you. We're really happy, you know. And, and good luck on the baby as well. There's another part of your life you should be thinking about is the child that's about to come out of your wife. What else we got little.

[Advertisement Voice]

Hi Stavi. Hi guest. Hi Elvis. My question is about work, life balance and whether we are being smart or stupid.

[Angie Hicks]

Okay.

[Advertisement Voice]

I'm a nurse and I work weekend nights, Friday, Saturday night, 7pm until 7am and my partner works for a really big financial company and his schedule right now is Saturday through Monday, 12 hour shifts with a two and a half year old daughter. And this weird schedule has honestly worked really well for us. She's luckily never had to go to daycare because where we live he works

[Stavros Halkias]

Saturday, Sunday, Monday, 12 hours. Gotcha.

[Jimmy Tatro]

Wait, he works Saturday to Sunday, Saturday,

[Stavros Halkias]

Sunday, Monday, 12 hour shifts and she works night shift Saturday, Sunday. Right. Oh, okay.

[Advertisement Voice]

She's luckily never had to go to daycare because where we live I the cost of daycare is literally more than our mortgage. And my parents are super great and they help watch her on the weekends, which we love, she loves. And then during the week we get a lot of family time together. We do little state park trips, random staycations, even like impulse a flight somewhere for a couple days. And we spend a lot of time together as a family. And I feel really, really grateful for that.

[Caller]

That.

[Advertisement Voice]

But he just got offered a new job to make more money, more career growth and then a more like normal corporate trajectory. And I'm torn because part of me is like this is the smarter long term move. But the other part is like our daughters only know it once. We're kind of in the school of thought of like once was enough. We have our child and she is perfect and we are very happy we don't have more.

[Stavros Halkias]

An only child whose mother calls her perfect sounds like somebody who's definitely not going to be annoying annoying when she grows up. Imagine being a kid whose parents take you on trips. You're our perfect little angel. We don't need anything else. I just maybe don't have another kid. But let her, let her have cousins or something. She's got to know that, you know, she's not a little. Everything's not. I worry about only children.

[Jimmy Tatro]

I missed. I missed some of that.

[Stavros Halkias]

Sorry. So basically her. It's not done. I'm just kind of popping into on her a little bit. And just as a fair warning, don't call, don't let your kid think it's. Think it's perfect. You know what I mean? Only children can be real tough, but not you guys. You guys are the exception. Is there more? There's more, basically.

[Angie Hicks]

What?

[Stavros Halkias]

Basically what she's wondering so far is that her husband, they work these weird weekends where they work, like, opposite.

[Jimmy Tatro]

Opposite hours.

[Stavros Halkias]

No, no, they all work. They both work. Basically, they work full work weeks during the weekend. She's on overnights, he's on 12 hour shifts, and her parents watch their daughter during the weekends. And so that means they have full weeks to hang out with their kid. She's saying this setup's awesome, but her husband was offered a better job or a promotion, which means regular hours, and I think she's torn. Is there any. Any more context? Eldest?

[Angie Hicks]

Yeah, I'll let it keep going.

[Advertisement Voice]

We are very happy. We don't plan to have more kids. And I know we're never going to get the space back where we'd have all this random weekday time off together and she's home with us instead of daycare. Ideally, we've talked about, you know, I'd stop working weekend nights and she'd start daycare around three, and we'd have more normal schedules and I, you know, maybe be able to regain some sanity and sleep. But I'm really struggling whether we should prioritize maximizing income and career momentum or protect this, like, a really unique family setup while we still can.

[Stavros Halkias]

Yeah.

[Advertisement Voice]

So basically my question is, how do you know when it's time to stop optimizing for time and start optimizing for money and career growth? Thank you. And I really hope you answer this, and I hope your elbow feels better.

[Caller]

Thank you.

[Stavros Halkias]

I appreciate that. Sorry I said your kid was gonna be a piece of shit.

[Jimmy Tatro]

Quick sidebar.

[Stavros Halkias]

Yeah.

[Jimmy Tatro]

I'm new, you know, to the. To the call ins, of course.

[Stavros Halkias]

Anything you need.

[Caller]

So.

[Jimmy Tatro]

So they're. They're dealing with what seems to be, you know, a pretty serious, like, decision.

[Stavros Halkias]

That's right.

[Jimmy Tatro]

And they call you.

[Stavros Halkias]

That's right. I love this moment that dawns on every guest about two or three calls in.

[Jimmy Tatro]

And your advice here. Yeah.

[Stavros Halkias]

Could change the course of their lives. Yep. And by the way, folks, I'm not legally responsible for anything that happens. This is a purely joke show.

[Jimmy Tatro]

But I'm curious, did they, like, go back and forth and. And they, like, get to a point and they're like, we're at an impact.

[Stavros Halkias]

Yeah. We need to call the wisest man we know. And that's what they call stavros. That's right.

[Jimmy Tatro]

They're just sitting there. And she's like, should we just.

[Stavros Halkias]

Should we just.

[Jimmy Tatro]

And he's like, just call.

[Stavros Halkias]

Just hit the button. Push the Stavi's World button. Push the Stavi's World hotline, brought to you by Visible Button. So I think. Here's my take on this. I think a very. A time that makes sense. There will be a time that makes sense when your daughter's in school. If she's two or three right now.

[Jimmy Tatro]

Do we know how old she is?

[Stavros Halkias]

She said she was two or three, right, didn't she? Eldest two, I think.

[Angie Hicks]

Did she say.

[Stavros Halkias]

I don't know. But yeah, she's young. Oh, good.

[Advertisement Voice]

Fuck.

[Stavros Halkias]

Fucking dumbass. Just look what the fucking thing said while we talk. Anyway, she's too. Your kid's a toddler right now. I think there's a clear moment when you make this switch. It's when she goes to preschool, she goes to kindergarten or first grade where it's like where your kid. Someone is. Takes care of your kid during the days. Because right now she's saying, we'll put her into daycare until three, right? And look, I know the. The thing for career momentum, all this, but if you guys are doing well right now and your husband is talented and, you know, obviously it feels in the moment like if you don't take a career opportunity, you're fucked. And I know. I mean, that's. That's what this fucking industry feels like. I mean, I feel like I'm literally killing myself to, you know, play a. A scum right now. I. I had to play a Glenn Powell's scumbag agent with a broken arm. Instead of recuperating, instead of doing pt, I was risking having the mobility in my left arm ever come back to do, you know, a Judd Apatow movie? So I know what it's like to sacrifice dumb for your career. But I think. I think they have the fucking dream, like being able to go and like, take trips and spend time with your little ass kid. Eventually somebody else is going to teach her. Unless you want to really pour on the freak juice and make her a homeschooled only child. Like, you're going to send her to school. That's when you change. And then. And then it actually would make sense for you to switch your hours to align with hers. But right now, I think. I think the striving for more and wanting more and more and more, that's what's fucking killing us. That's what's destroying this country. And you would be doing a rebellion against American greed and helping your family. Your husband would be making a really principled stand that I would personally really respect if he put his child ahead of career momentum for just a couple years. We're not saying never get a promotion. We're just saying that's what I would do if I was them anyway. Like, I'm trying to build up my life to, like, I feel like I've worked too much and I haven't put any, like, personal shit in there. So if I was them, you have the more important shit. The more important shit is spending time with your kid and actually being able to. Now, it would be different if you were barely making ends meet. Right. But it sounds like you're doing okay right now, so that's what I would do. Because you're right. The most finite thing in this equation is you being with your toddler. That's the. That you can never get back. You can get back, you know, working at Goldman Sachs or whatever. Fucking scumbag. Because he's. He's working for a big corporation, a big financial corporation.

[Jimmy Tatro]

Wait, are they not both nurses?

[Stavros Halkias]

No, she's a nurse and he works in finance. So that's the other thing. By not taking a better job in finance, you're actually also helping the world because no. Finance does nothing but, but loot, you know, money from actual hardworking people. I mean, that shit, that's the fakest fucking job of all time. And if he's in fucking. If he's in fucking. What's it called? Like private equity. Everyone in private equity should be bleep it out. But they destroy everything they put their fucking hands on. So that's my. My thing is on one hand, you get a beautiful couple of years with your child that you can never get back. On the other hand, it's. Should I sacrifice that to make my husband's bosses more money and you more money as a result? I guess. But to me this is kind of clear. You gotta fucking invest in your family while you still. While you can right now. And then when your kid goes into. Has normal hours, I say fucking, you know, switch it up. Then James, what do you say?

[Jimmy Tatro]

I just say the complete opposite of that. I make a really impassioned, like, long counter argument and just leave her just

[Stavros Halkias]

like weirdly turn into smart guys on this topic. We start doing statistics at each other.

[Jimmy Tatro]

I just go, I just come back at you. And then just. We just leave her again at a neutral decision.

[Stavros Halkias]

Yeah, yeah, I'll just.

[Jimmy Tatro]

I'll just say. I'll just say yes to that.

[Stavros Halkias]

Yes. Yeah.

[Jimmy Tatro]

I don't want to. I don't want to over complicate this.

[Stavros Halkias]

Sure. Like, I feel like if I was in that position. I don't know if you were in the position where you're like, oh, I can have this, like, really awesome job opportunity that maybe I won't get this exact one, but maybe in a couple years I can do something similar or I can spend, you know, let's say you have a kid and like, I can spend. When she's three and four, I can spend every day with her. I think that's an easy decision.

[Jimmy Tatro]

Personally, my only thing where I'd be like, maybe that's a interesting variable is if he would no longer be working on the weekends and then he would be able to like, move some of the time, hang out during. On the weekend when he previously wasn't able to. Yeah, that would help.

[Stavros Halkias]

But that's what I'm saying is that like, I think right now, yeah, they would totally shift their up. But it's like right now they get to hang out with their kid like five days a week versus you're four days a week versus three. I just think, like, they have a cool setup right now and there's a. I think they would do that when. I think it makes more sense to do that when your kid is in school. And also, you don't have to pay for daycare, by the way. That's another thing we didn't discuss.

[Jimmy Tatro]

You just got to switch it up when it gets to the point where, okay, you're spending too much time.

[Stavros Halkias]

Time. Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. When you're annoyed, it's like, I don't want to do blocks, man. Can we do something else? Can you be into hula hooping or some.

[Jimmy Tatro]

I want to miss you.

[Stavros Halkias]

Yeah, yeah. My daughter's so clingy, dude. My nephew, dude, he's at this stage, I have a one and a half year old nephew and he's just understanding. Like, he's just stopped being a complete baby. He's still a baby, but. But now he has preferences. And anytime somebody comes over now, he's scared that if it's my mom, me, or my brother that we're babysitting him and his parents are gonna leave and he just goes, no, don't. He'll go, don't. He'll be like, don't. He'll wave his finger and be like, don't. And it's like, you're a fucking baby, dude. You have no reco. And I like to let him understand that your parents might say, let you do whatever you want. Uncle Stav is gonna let you know you're a baby.

[Jimmy Tatro]

No. It's important to say no.

[Stavros Halkias]

Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. I'm here to bully you. I'm here to toss you into a couch and power bomb.

[Jimmy Tatro]

Yeah. I'm gonna say no to everything you're asking. No, because.

[Stavros Halkias]

Because no one in your life does. But anyway, so, yeah, those are. I felt pretty impassioned about this one. And again, when you think about how much you're saving on not doing daycare and look, if your husband's gonna lose this opportunity forever, that's a different thing. But that's never the case. Believe me, I've. I started passing on, and it's been fine. Like, other comes around, you'll be okay.

[Angie Hicks]

I feel like. I feel like whenever you have, like, a very cushy setup, like they do. I mean, it's, like, unheard of for parents to, like, be able to get by working on the weekends and having the majority of the week to just hang out with their kids.

[Stavros Halkias]

Of course.

[Angie Hicks]

That's, like, a sweet setup. And I also feel like whenever you do have a setup like that, like, sooner or later that will come.

[Stavros Halkias]

It's gonna to an end.

[Angie Hicks]

Something's gonna happen every time. Like, even if it'll take, like, a few years. So that's, like, another reason.

[Stavros Halkias]

And switch it up when she's in school and you don't have to pay for it. All right, next question.

[Caller]

What's up, Stavi? Elvis, esteemed guest. Trying to see if and how I can, you know, hook up with this hottest MILF that's in my hometown.

[Stavros Halkias]

A little more our speed, huh, Jimmy? See, dude, you complained about these being too heavy questions, and elders figured it

[Jimmy Tatro]

out straight back to MILF

[Caller]

college. Kind of a nerd do engineer one. I go to college. MILF that's in my hometown. I'm 21. I go to college. Kind of a nerd.

[Advertisement Voice]

Do engineering.

[Caller]

Have some good friends, but haven't yet have dated girls. Just.

[Angie Hicks]

Anyway,

[Jimmy Tatro]

he's definitely 21.

[Stavros Halkias]

He's 21. This guy's awesome.

[Jimmy Tatro]

I realized that guys our age don't say MILF anymore because we're talking about women are. I had a really crazy realization when I was, like, oh, wait, milfs are just women our age, but with kids.

[Stavros Halkias]

Wait, milfs are people.

[Jimmy Tatro]

I remember being, like, in college. Like, like, someone says, yeah, I hooked up with, like, a 35 year old, and I was. And I'm like, oh, no, yeah. No, we're MILF age.

[Stavros Halkias]

Yeah. And we have nothing to show for.

[Jimmy Tatro]

We are MILF aged men.

[Stavros Halkias]

Men of a certain MILF age. MILF age is a really funny way to put middle aged. Early middle aged aged. Yeah, we're mil ag.

[Jimmy Tatro]

I'm a mil fage.

[Stavros Halkias]

Sounds better than early middle age. Honestly. His MIL aged men. All right, so we. I love this kid because he's. First of all, I hear the go getter in his voice, right. Hasn't yet. Shooting for the moon. He's like, how do I. I'm skipping a couple steps. I'm getting right to milf.

[Advertisement Voice]

I'm.

[Stavros Halkias]

I'm. I'm making up for lost time. But let's hear the rest of this.

[Caller]

Anyway. So I'm home for the summer. I knew this woman from like going to church, playing in the church band. She led it, but we both kind of. She quit that job and I don't go to church anymore because, you know, they're homophobic kind of pieces of trash anyway. But I saw her around and we were chatting, you know, about her kids, college, whatever. And then she was like, you're 21 now, right? And I was like, I am. And she's like, well, I gotta buy you a drink. You were really? And I was like, absolutely. That sounds rad.

[Stavros Halkias]

He just nuts in his pants. Every time he tries to get up and go. Every time they've had a date, he just puts on his jeans. He's like, oh, fuck, I can't make it tonight. Keep going.

[Advertisement Voice]

And.

[Caller]

And then she was like, or maybe, you know, get your mom there too. Hang out. And then I was like, is she like hinting that she wants to get a drink with me? And then, you know, kind of safety backing it up by mentioning my mom. Does she actually want to hang out but doesn't want to give me the wrong idea? So she's mentioning my mom.

[Stavros Halkias]

She's not a good.

[Caller]

Anyway, do I text her and be like, let's go get a drink? I don't, you know, I don't know. I feel like I'm good at talking to people, but just kind of a coward.

[Stavros Halkias]

Definitely are a coward. I can tell.

[Caller]

Anyway, but she's got big old titties. She's really pretty. She got a big old ass. Very sweet, very fun divorce, like two years now, which is anyway of flood if we. And just whatever. Guidance from here would be awesome. All right, you take it easy. Thank you.

[Stavros Halkias]

This is the audacity of youth.

[Jimmy Tatro]

I know. I was gonna say, I would say your biggest obstacle is you just seem so young.

[Stavros Halkias]

Yeah.

[Jimmy Tatro]

And. And I think that would be the thing that gets in the way a little bit. Of course, is the way. The way you're talking, you're clearly 21 years old and that might be a bit of a turn off.

[Angie Hicks]

Sure.

[Stavros Halkias]

Your only chance here is that shit's going kind of bad for her. Right. And that she wants to sort of act out. Yeah. The only, the only chance you have is that she says she's two years post divorce. Might be a little late for this. This is more. You might be able to catch the tail end of it. This is more immediate divorced situation where it's like you've got someone who. And I don't know, I'm purely speculating. But if she was divorced, she used to go to the church and she isn't. Maybe she's somebody who got married too young, didn't get to have her youth. Right. The only, your only shot is that she want. She's like interested in sort of, you know, kind of reclaiming a little bit of youth here. Now the problem is if that's the case, she probably wants to fuck a cool 22 year old, not a fucking dork like you. So what you have to do is just purely endear yourself. Here's a lesson you have to have overall. And I know this is going to be really hard for you to hear as maybe the horniest guy in the world. Right. Because I remember what it was like to be 21 and desperately want to get pussy. Your desperation is the worst thing that you have going for you. You're probably a nice guy. You're probably. Are you that interesting? I don't know. You're a child. You're 21. You don't have much to talk to her about. But if you can just be nice. Nice and endearing and by the. And the overall lesson is just sort of like make connections with people without expecting anything in return.

[Jimmy Tatro]

Yeah.

[Stavros Halkias]

That will. Because I remember being like 21 and being like, okay. And looking at like dating is like a video game where it's like if I unlock enough achievements, I will get. You know what I mean? Where it's like, well, she will half if I hang out four times and I buy her a drink. You know what I mean?

[Jimmy Tatro]

Like, yeah.

[Stavros Halkias]

Thinking like it's math and it's like. But the reality is being a good person who's nice and fun to talk to. Just go out for a drink with this lady expecting nothing. Use it as like as training for talking to a woman you're very attracted to. Because the odds of you fucking this woman, I'm going to be honest with you, very slim.

[Jimmy Tatro]

Very slim.

[Stavros Halkias]

Very, very slim.

[Jimmy Tatro]

The best thing he could do probably would be to not appear to be too interested 100%, but just be. Be a genuine guy.

[Stavros Halkias]

Exactly.

[Jimmy Tatro]

And it would help too if maybe he seemed preoccupied with something else.

[Stavros Halkias]

His studies, his college, another girl. Another girl? Yeah, sure, sure.

[Jimmy Tatro]

So she's like, oh, does he think he's too good for me?

[Stavros Halkias]

Yeah, yep, yep, you know, totally.

[Jimmy Tatro]

And then he's. But all he's doing is just being a nice guy.

[Stavros Halkias]

I, I think what you do is. And by the way, we're not telling you to pretend to be a guy. Okay? You're not. First of all, that's bad advice. Second of all, you're not capable of manipulating a beautiful woman. You're just. You don't have the juice.

[Jimmy Tatro]

You have to just be genuine, actually.

[Stavros Halkias]

And I think you are a nice guy. That's what you have going for you. And so I think what you do here is because you're right, you're right. Seem like, just be interested. Be a nice guy. And here's the thing, ask her. You know, you have this music connection. Talk about, you know, hey, are you performing anywhere now that you're not leading the church? Talk about if you both left the church.

[Angie Hicks]

Church.

[Stavros Halkias]

Maybe that's some, you know, you're like, oh, what did you. Whatever.

[Jimmy Tatro]

And don't say the word milf.

[Stavros Halkias]

Don't say the word milk.

[Jimmy Tatro]

Say the word mil. That ages you down. Maybe you drop 15 years lower.

[Stavros Halkias]

Yeah, yeah, absolutely.

[Jimmy Tatro]

She doesn't, she doesn't want to be called a milf.

[Stavros Halkias]

No, no, no. Well, who knows?

[Caller]

I don't know.

[Stavros Halkias]

Probably not.

[Jimmy Tatro]

I think MILF is.

[Stavros Halkias]

It's over.

[Jimmy Tatro]

Maybe if you're like, you know, it's

[Stavros Halkias]

become a porn category, you're right.

[Jimmy Tatro]

Well, but also like high. Guess, guess how. I don't know how old. Maybe if you're like in your 50s, it's cool to be called.

[Stavros Halkias]

Right.

[Jimmy Tatro]

But if you're like in your 30s.

[Stavros Halkias]

True, true.

[Jimmy Tatro]

You don't want to be called.

[Stavros Halkias]

You're right. Especially if you're like divorced and you're just trying to get. You're just kind of trying to. Stella get her groove back. But by the way, Stella gets her groove back. She Tay Diggs, she doesn't fuck some 21 year old engineer. Right? So it's like. But again, use this. I will say this. Avoid your mother Being involved in this at all costs. All right? You don't want to hang out with, with your mom and this lady. But if at the. If what you get out of this is a friendship with a beautiful woman who's older than you, that's a big win for you because that's like a lot of. A lot of my fellow. You know, and part of the, part of this re. The reason for this program is to try and convert incels. Get them out of this. As a former incel myself, you know, I try and say, if, you know, I'm fat, as I'm five seven, I'm bald. Right. I figured out how to live a wonderful, fulfilling life, you can too. And that's what I'm trying to get. That's what I'm trying to tell this guy is like, the second you stop thinking of it as, like every interaction with a woman is desperately trying to get laid, and you just genuinely make female friends, genuinely see girls as people that will help you develop as a human being. And yeah, if you have women friends, they might set you up with their, their or like, like this lady, you know, go into this try literally as practice for talking to a woman you really want to fuck and not blowing it because you're not. Look at it as. I'm not going to smash. Just look at it. There's something freeing in that. And then say, let's go out for a drink. Let's talk to her. Let me try and get her. If you get this woman to take you seriously as an adult and not as, like Martha's son, that's a victory. If you forge a real relationship. And by the way, you never know. You're. You're putting the ball in play at the fingertips. You never know.

[Jimmy Tatro]

But I, I like your, I like your idea about. Put it out of your head.

[Stavros Halkias]

It's out. It's not gonna.

[Jimmy Tatro]

Not gonna happen.

[Stavros Halkias]

It's not gonna happen. But this is still a valuable friendship for you to have. And it's like, good practice. It's kind of like harmless practice for talking to a girl you're attracted to.

[Jimmy Tatro]

Yeah. Because then you'll say things to her, she'll roll her eyes.

[Stavros Halkias]

Right.

[Jimmy Tatro]

You'll realize the things that you're doing that may be immature, that maybe you weren't realizing. And that will be a good learning experience.

[Stavros Halkias]

Good learning experience. And it's a good experience for you being actually interested because right now you're purely horny for this woman.

[Jimmy Tatro]

Yeah.

[Stavros Halkias]

This is a good opportunity for you to practice asking a woman about her life. You know what I mean? Like, ask her what's been going on. Like, don't look at it as, like, let's trick a hot lady into sleeping with me. Look at it as, like, getting to know a person who, yes, I'm attracted to and would love to have a romantic relationship of some kind with. But, like, these will be valuable skills for you when you go back to college. Let's say you don't hook up and you just get a couple drinks, Form a friendship with somebody. Now, you've talked to the. You know, you've spent. You're. You're more comfortable around beautiful women than you were before this summer.

[Jimmy Tatro]

100%.

[Stavros Halkias]

That's what I would tell you, my friend. And look, if some incredible, you know, you hit some kind of sexual lottery and she takes pity on you and jerks you off once, that's the craziest victory of all time. But just coming out of this with a new friend who makes you more comfortable around hot girls, that's what you want, buddy.

[Jimmy Tatro]

100%.

[Stavros Halkias]

You got to get rid of that desperation. I know that's tough to say, but that is what's leaking through. I could feel it.

[Angie Hicks]

I feel like he said something interesting. He said, oh, you're 21 now. Let me buy you a drink. And he said his response was, oh, absolutely. That sounds rad. I wonder, like, how excited he got when.

[Jimmy Tatro]

Yes.

[Stavros Halkias]

Can we go right now? Raspberry vodka with sprite, please. Could you pour some simple syrup in it as well?

[Jimmy Tatro]

Vodka orange soda, please.

[Stavros Halkias]

Do you serve brass monkey here?

[Jimmy Tatro]

I'm getting crazy doing some jaeger bombs.

[Stavros Halkias]

Yeah, yeah, yeah. Let's do some jaeger bombs. Oh, cool. Yeah. I'll make some jungle juice.

[Jimmy Tatro]

Jaeger bombs, please.

[Stavros Halkias]

And for the lady. Jungle juice. And for the lady, Crystal light with pop offs vodka. Man, I feel like it could have

[Angie Hicks]

been something as small as that that made her immediately be like. Or, yeah, maybe we'll go with your mom.

[Stavros Halkias]

She's just like, what the. You're so right. Elders, you remember, like, yes. She's like, yeah, yeah, Me, you, and your mom will get us some White Ziffindale at 3pm she's like.

[Jimmy Tatro]

She's, you know, more mature, I think. Think she might want something nice like crystal, Maybe some gray go.

[Stavros Halkias]

Yeah, yeah. Hypnotic. Let's do the incredible. An incredible hulk for the. For the lady. So, yeah, good luck, buddy. That's. It's a. This is a very cute call. We got something else. LD as we're wrap. And by the way, any Anything specific you want to plug here, my friend? Sorry. We should have done it at the midway point, but we're just so wrapped up. Up.

[Jimmy Tatro]

No, I mean, I, I, I am. I have a show coming out.

[Angie Hicks]

Hell, yeah.

[Jimmy Tatro]

Called the Hawk on Netflix.

[Stavros Halkias]

Oh, yeah. Dude, that's awesome. Will, frell.

[Jimmy Tatro]

What was that?

[Stavros Halkias]

Will, frell.

[Jimmy Tatro]

Will, Frell.

[Stavros Halkias]

That's awesome.

[Jimmy Tatro]

Molly Shannon.

[Stavros Halkias]

Oo the goats.

[Jimmy Tatro]

Yeah.

[Stavros Halkias]

Are you kidding me, bro? On screen with the. What the was. What was her character? We watched.

[Jimmy Tatro]

I forget the name.

[Angie Hicks]

Star superstar.

[Stavros Halkias]

We watched the movie, by the way.

[Jimmy Tatro]

She's great.

[Stavros Halkias]

She's incredible. One of the best of Truly. Like, she was so good in the other two as their mom. You ever see that? That is awesome.

[Jimmy Tatro]

I gotta rewatch the other two. I started watching it, it was like, on the other day, and I just, like, started watching. I saw it so long ago. That movie is so funny.

[Stavros Halkias]

She's so good. Molly Shannon's incredible. But anyway, that's awesome, dude.

[Jimmy Tatro]

Yeah, we play pro golfers. Yeah. And yeah, he. I play Will's son.

[Stavros Halkias]

Oh, hell yeah.

[Jimmy Tatro]

And I'm a, I'm a professional golfer who's like, starting to make a name for himself. And he is, like, on the, like the amateur tour or not the. He's not on the PGA tour. He's trying to claw his way back.

[Stavros Halkias]

Oh, but he was, he was, he

[Jimmy Tatro]

was the man back in the day.

[Stavros Halkias]

Oh, hell yeah.

[Jimmy Tatro]

And now his son is starting to be the man. Yeah, he's starting. Yeah, yeah, yeah.

[Stavros Halkias]

And you're basically playing Charlie Woods. Basically a version of Tiger son. Have you seen him? Oh, nice, dude.

[Jimmy Tatro]

I've seen his.

[Stavros Halkias]

Nice.

[Jimmy Tatro]

He looks good. And their mannerisms are all, like, the same and stuff.

[Stavros Halkias]

That's when you're like, look, sometimes Nepo babies just inherit the talent. Some. Yes. Sometimes they're untalented pieces of shit who, who, you know, their uncle gets them a job. But sometimes. Yes, maybe Tiger Wood son might be awesome at golf and maybe, you know.

[Jimmy Tatro]

Yeah, maybe, like, growing up with the best golfer of all time also makes you a pretty good golfer.

[Stavros Halkias]

Yeah, yeah, yeah.

[Jimmy Tatro]

As is the case with, like, every profession.

[Stavros Halkias]

Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. But that's awesome, dude.

[Jimmy Tatro]

And then, yeah, he starts to make a comeback and he's, like, sets off on a mission to, to reclaim his glory and make sure that he is always known as the most talented. Hawkins.

[Stavros Halkias]

I love that.

[Jimmy Tatro]

I'm Lance Hawkins. He's Lonnie Hawkins.

[Stavros Halkias]

Yeah, dude.

[Angie Hicks]

Dude.

[Jimmy Tatro]

Yeah, it's very funny. Just like. Yeah, it's a fun comedy show. A lot of the same people from, like, Eastbound and Down.

[Stavros Halkias]

Worked on it best, dude. I love.

[Jimmy Tatro]

Yeah, David Gordon Green directed like four of the episodes.

[Stavros Halkias]

This is gonna be so good.

[Jimmy Tatro]

Yeah, he's great.

[Stavros Halkias]

Check that out. That's a Netflix show.

[Jimmy Tatro]

Netflix show.

[Stavros Halkias]

Yeah. Yeah.

[Jimmy Tatro]

July 16th.

[Stavros Halkias]

Ooh, babe. This might come out right around that time. So check out the Hawk and Elvis. You got one or two more questions for us here? We're wrapping up here, buddy.

[Caller]

Hey, Stav. Eldest esteemed guest. I'll keep it quick. And I hope this is on the regular episode, not the Patreon. Times are tough out here anyway. Work at a small company. I'm the office manager. We have a warehouse manager. And I don't know how to approach the fact that the warehouse manager doesn't wash his hands after he takes a. In the morning.

[Stavros Halkias]

I feel like, bro, I. I mean, wait, you just work? Yeah, that's gonna happen, bro. I'm sorry. But keep going, keep going.

[Caller]

Hard to bust somebody on that, you know, it's like a one person bathroom. Like, you know. You know, if I approach the boss saying, hey, man, I don't think he washes his hands. Like, how do I approve it? It seems like a tough, tough, tough one to tackle. I feel like I'm being kind of like an office snitch. If I, you know, waited outside the bath. It just seems like an invasion of pride.

[Jimmy Tatro]

And then you just gotta tell them.

[Stavros Halkias]

I mean, but how. This is an interesting how you're like, hey, man, I've been. I've had my fucking glass to my ear on the door, and I never hear the sink go off when you're shitting. I hear those fucking. I hear those breakfast burrito farts, but I don't hear any fucking running water.

[Jimmy Tatro]

I think you started off with a question. You know, he leaves the room. If you're ever near the bathroom, when he exits, you just hit him with a little. You wash your hands. You know, start there. Start by posing the question. Yo, you wash your hands. And if he's like, no, Be like, dude, you got to wash your hands.

[Stavros Halkias]

Hold on. Is he. Did he say. He said. Who's this guy not washing his hands? The warehouse manager?

[Angie Hicks]

Yeah, the.

[Jimmy Tatro]

Is he above him?

[Stavros Halkias]

No, but the guy works in a warehouse. I've worked at a warehouse. These people are animals. Dude. They're not gonna. This guy's not. You're telling me a guy works at a warehouse, the office manager who is, you know, just. That's a way. It's like, you know, that's. They don't respect the guy who has to order the toilet paper, the soap he's not using. This guy's job is to just, like, he's not gonna listen. And he's probably younger. This guy's probably. He's the warehouse manager, right?

[Angie Hicks]

The guy who is in Washington stands is a warehouse manager, and this guy's the office manager.

[Stavros Halkias]

So we're talking about some fucking old guy that's been working in a warehouse for 30 years and now a guy who. He just started working there. Did he say. I'm just telling you, this is not as simple as you think it is.

[Jimmy Tatro]

Really?

[Stavros Halkias]

No, man.

[Jimmy Tatro]

I feel like even just bringing it up, I mean, I guess I can't imagine that because I wash my hands, like, all. Like, everything I do.

[Stavros Halkias]

Pussy.

[Jimmy Tatro]

I get a little thing, wash my hands. Little thing, wash my hands. I wash my hands like, 20 times a day. So I can't imagine taking and not washing them.

[Stavros Halkias]

Look, that's foul. Look, I'm not gonna sit here and say I'm a. I'm a strict hand washer. I'm not gonna. But I wash my hands after. Look, I'm not. I'll be honest with you. Most pisses I'm not washing.

[Jimmy Tatro]

I mean, no, I wash my hands before I pee.

[Stavros Halkias]

Before.

[Jimmy Tatro]

Yeah, my hands.

[Stavros Halkias]

Wow. You might have converted me with that.

[Jimmy Tatro]

Your dick's not dirty.

[Stavros Halkias]

That's a great point.

[Jimmy Tatro]

You know, you go in there, your hand. If your hands are dirty.

[Stavros Halkias]

My dick.

[Jimmy Tatro]

You dirty your dick. And then you wash hands after. It's like, what's the point of that?

[Stavros Halkias]

You're a genius.

[Jimmy Tatro]

The only thing. Wow, that doesn't look good sometimes is if you wash your hands first and then you pee and then new people enter the bathroom and then you leave. They might go, that guy didn't wash his hands. Not knowing.

[Stavros Halkias]

I'm free of that judgment, though, that

[Jimmy Tatro]

you don't worry about.

[Stavros Halkias]

I live my life in a way where that doesn't affect me.

[Jimmy Tatro]

So, yeah, I start.

[Stavros Halkias]

But if piss gets on my hands, I'm washing my hands. Well, yeah, yeah, yeah. But it would have to be a real problem.

[Jimmy Tatro]

You know, we're in our 30s. We're better at.

[Stavros Halkias]

I've been holding my penis for years now, so you're right. But I just don't think this. Having worked with warehouse guys and in a machine shop and my dad's a contractor, these are the type of guys that really a. It's not even that he cares about Washington. He doesn't. Here's the problem. It's not the sanitation issue.

[Jimmy Tatro]

You.

[Stavros Halkias]

This guy will see it as he's being challenged by a younger man he doesn't respect. So whatever it is, he'd be like, you. Who the are you to tell. I'll wash my hands if I don't. If I don't want to, I won't. I promise you. That's how this guy would. Anyway. That's who I'm imagining.

[Jimmy Tatro]

Okay, well, then I have.

[Stavros Halkias]

Let's keep going.

[Jimmy Tatro]

Okay, well, I have another potential solution, too.

[Stavros Halkias]

Okay.

[Caller]

And then if I kind of accuse him of it, knowing, like, you know, then he'd be like, probably wondering how I. I figured that out. But, I mean, it's as simple as walking by the bathroom and then not hearing him use the sink after he takes a. In the morning. We work together long enough. So, like, I don't know. And I kind of got, like, a little ocd, so it bugs me a lot. So. I don't know. Any advice is great advice. Thanks to Love the pod, I. I

[Stavros Halkias]

have something, too, but go ahead. I have an idea.

[Jimmy Tatro]

If there's ever a situation where they're all kind of talking and he is able to naturally slip in a story where someone doesn't wash their hands after taking a. And how gross that is.

[Stavros Halkias]

Got E. Coli.

[Jimmy Tatro]

You know, you're like. You're like, yeah, this guy I know didn't wash his hands.

[Stavros Halkias]

Yep.

[Jimmy Tatro]

This negative thing happened.

[Stavros Halkias]

He got picked.

[Jimmy Tatro]

Also disgusting. Can you imagine?

[Stavros Halkias]

Right, right. Right to the guy.

[Jimmy Tatro]

Can you imagine?

[Stavros Halkias]

But here's what the guy does. Yeah. Gross. Just keeps not washing his hands. Because here's the thing. Like, if you accuse him, you have no proof. He'll just be like, yes, I do. Yes, I did. What do you do then? If somebody says, yes, I did wash my hands when you know they're lying, you have no recourse.

[Jimmy Tatro]

Yeah, that's true.

[Stavros Halkias]

And then here's my idea. Shut. You're the office manager. Shut the water off one day, Right. Just the spigot. Right before this guy's about to shit, shut the water off.

[Jimmy Tatro]

But then he can't flush.

[Stavros Halkias]

That's why I'm saying I think there's a spigot under the sink. You don't cut the water off to the whole building.

[Advertisement Voice]

Building.

[Stavros Halkias]

You cut it off at the. At the sink. You know, you can go underneath the sink and cut it off. And then you're like. And you wait for him to. And you come out. You're like, dude, I'm so sorry. The water was off. You couldn't even. Oh, Could. Could you wash your hands? Because now you know for a fact the water was off and he didn't wash his hands, so he can't lie about it.

[Caller]

That's.

[Stavros Halkias]

That's maybe your only way to trap him into that.

[Caller]

But.

[Jimmy Tatro]

Well, it depends if he's a reasonable human being. I think the reason I. I upset the question is because. Because recently a woman in my neighborhood. Her dog took a big right at the bottom of my driveway.

[Caller]

O.

[Jimmy Tatro]

You know, like, right. Just right in the middle of my driveway. Big. And my neighbor's like, yo. Someone's. Someone just let their dog take a massive. And I look at my cameras, and I see the dog. I see the woman. And I was like, I'm gonna say something.

[Stavros Halkias]

Yeah. Okay.

[Jimmy Tatro]

If I see here. And I was like, wait, how do I do this? Because I can get a little confrontational.

[Stavros Halkias]

Sure.

[Jimmy Tatro]

Like, if I say something. Seriously, it sounds intense. Sure, sure. Like, hey, hey, did you. I can quickly. Blood starts to boil.

[Stavros Halkias]

I get that.

[Jimmy Tatro]

And I was like, the best way to do it. I would. I'm gonna. If I see her next time I see her, because it happened, like, a week ago. I'm like, I'm gonna pose it as a question. I'm gonna be like, hey, you got bags? She's walking to nutrition, like, you got bags?

[Stavros Halkias]

You need some bags? I got some bags.

[Jimmy Tatro]

And if she says no, I'll be like, gotta have bags.

[Stavros Halkias]

Gotta have bags.

[Jimmy Tatro]

And if she says yes, I'll be like, okay, cool. Just making sure. Because I did see you on my cameras. Let your dog take a. And walk away.

[Stavros Halkias]

Yeah. I mean, that's insane that you're so in the right, though, to be like, hey, please don't let your dog. I don't even.

[Jimmy Tatro]

That.

[Stavros Halkias]

I don't even think you need to ask a question. I think you're so squarely in the right.

[Jimmy Tatro]

Yeah.

[Stavros Halkias]

And you have proof.

[Jimmy Tatro]

I was considering printing out. Oh. The screenshot.

[Caller]

Oh.

[Jimmy Tatro]

And sticking it on a. On a pole.

[Stavros Halkias]

That's awesome.

[Jimmy Tatro]

And my fiance was like, please don't do that.

[Stavros Halkias]

Yeah, no, that's cr. That's way too conversational to be quick in your situation. You could just say, hey, did you let. You can ask the question. Like, hey, was that. Because then she's like, no. Then you're like, well, that's interesting, because I actually saw you and I was giving you the benefit of the doubt.

[Jimmy Tatro]

Yeah, I did.

[Stavros Halkias]

I would really appreciate if you just didn't do that anymore.

[Jimmy Tatro]

You didn't let your dog. And if she was.

[Stavros Halkias]

Exactly. If she Doubles down. Then you print it out. But you don't want that. You don't want to escalate.

[Jimmy Tatro]

No. Oh, wait, I can wait on that one. And if she can. If I see it again, yeah, she might get a printout. But it's just right at the base of the driveway. In. In danger of being run over and smeared.

[Stavros Halkias]

Smear, dude, you don't want that.

[Jimmy Tatro]

And then I was like, back. It's the hard driveway to back out of. And I was angling my wheels. So I was going around. Yeah, yeah, yeah. But then, like, after a few hours, someone. Someone stepped in it and it was just like. And it became, sure, uncleanable, of course.

[Stavros Halkias]

Yeah, yeah.

[Jimmy Tatro]

Just became part of the street, part

[Stavros Halkias]

of the milieu of your driveway. Yeah, yeah. I mean, look, I think in this case, I don't even. Look, He's a grown man who doesn't wash his fucking hands. I don't know what to tell you. If you really feel super strongly about it. Now, again, if this is the kind of atmosphere I'm imagining where it's a warehouse office thing, the thing these guys do respond to is like, you could bust his balls about it. Like, you. I don't think being polite and being like, excuse me, Jeffrey, I noticed you didn't fucking wipe. Or you didn't wipe. That'd be awesome. You knew that. I noticed you didn't wash your hands. He's gonna be like, fuck you, nerd. But if you're like, you fucking scumbag, or you. Did you get shit on the. On the. Hey there. Did you get on the refrigerator? The company refrigerator?

[Jimmy Tatro]

Or you see him shake someone's hand and be. Hey, watch out. This guy doesn't watch his hands.

[Stavros Halkias]

Yeah, you just got particles on you.

[Jimmy Tatro]

I'd wash your hands if you were. Yeah, if I were you.

[Stavros Halkias]

Exactly.

[Jimmy Tatro]

Because he's. He doesn't wash his hands after he shits.

[Stavros Halkias]

Yeah. Boom. That's the way. That's the way. I think that's the way you. That's the only. Again, if I'm reading the situation right, if this is like a warehouse guy who's like a, you know, blue collar guy who doesn't like to do. Doesn't like to be challenged. That's the language those guys understand. Now, if you're in a reasonable office with reasonable people, like Jimmy believes, naively believes. That's how the world works. Yeah. You can have a conversation with him and it'll stop, I guess. But if you want the real. You gotta embarrass this man until he buys.

[Jimmy Tatro]

I like that.

[Stavros Halkias]

Yeah.

[Jimmy Tatro]

I would say depending on the man.

[Stavros Halkias]

Yeah, that's true.

[Jimmy Tatro]

Either hit him with a little. A little. The little nudgy question. It's a question with a smile, you know, like, hey, you wash your hands? Or. Yeah, and it's a little ball busty.

[Stavros Halkias]

A little bit.

[Jimmy Tatro]

Yeah, but you're giving him the question.

[Stavros Halkias]

You got to strike the tone of light. You got to strike tone of light. Ball busting on the initial question to open up. You don't want the initial question to feel snitchy, and you don't want ball busting.

[Jimmy Tatro]

But you're right to say you don't want to be too serious. If you're like, hey, yeah, can I. So can I talk to you?

[Stavros Halkias]

Can we discuss about. Do you have a minute Later?

[Jimmy Tatro]

Cuz then he's embarrassed. Totally. And then the embarrassment turns to.

[Stavros Halkias]

Well, that's the thing. Yeah. He's unreasonable. He doesn't wash his hands after he shits. You think this is a guy you can reason with?

[Jimmy Tatro]

Yeah, it's this.

[Stavros Halkias]

It is disgusting. So anyway, that's my advice to you. I think we really solved everybody's problems. Elvis, what do you think?

[Jimmy Tatro]

I think so. Yeah.

[Stavros Halkias]

Jimmy, thank you so much, man. This was awesome. Anytime you're in town, please come. We'd love to have you again. Check out the Hawk, everybody. On Netflix. Probably. Probably by now. Come see us on tour. We are at this point, actually, at this point. Holy. When your show comes out is the exact weekend we were. We. I'm recording my special.

[Jimmy Tatro]

Oh, nice.

[Stavros Halkias]

Yeah, I had to postpone it because I broke my arm.

[Jimmy Tatro]

But where you. Where are you recording at?

[Stavros Halkias]

The Lyric in Baltimore. I grew up in Baltimore and that's. I love that theater.

[Jimmy Tatro]

Nice.

[Stavros Halkias]

It's going to be awesome. You know, buy your tickets if you haven't. Or actually, I guess it's happening right now, or it's happening this weekend, or it just happened. Either way, folks. Check it out. Hope. Hope on Netflix. Hopefully a couple months after the Hawk. And then, yeah, you got the Hawk. And then, honestly, I feel like a couple weeks later, Tyrus comes out, too. So you got some nice comedy coming out on Netflix this summer, folks.

[Jimmy Tatro]

That's season three.

[Stavros Halkias]

Season three. Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. It was nuts. We. That's where we. This was the one where I was like, oh, we're actually making a show. Like, we had locations. You know what I mean? Like, it was annoying because we had to schedule stuff. It's like, wait, what do you mean we have to schedule stuff on the location. Can we just do every scene in the shitty office we've done the first two seasons? They're like, no, maybe we should make this professional look good. I was like, fine. But it's really fucking funny. It's a great season and it's going to be great. A lot of good comedy this summer, folks. And yeah, we'll talk to you next time. Bye bye bye.

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