Bonus #134 - Honey Pluton [PATREON PREVIEW]

Summary

Stavvy's World – Bonus Episode #134: Honey Pluton [Patreon Preview]

Release Date: June 26, 2025

In this exclusive Patreon Preview of Stavvy's World, host Stavros Halkias delves into a heartfelt and intense discussion addressing workplace harassment within the military. This episode showcases Stav's commitment to providing thoughtful and practical advice to his listeners through engaging conversations with his panel of advice givers.

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Caller Presents the Issue

At [01:00], a young Navy aviation mechanic identifies herself as a 19-year-old woman navigating the challenging environment of a male-dominated workspace. She shares her frustration and emotional turmoil stemming from derogatory remarks made by her older male coworkers, such as:

"you look like a crack baby, Roger from American Dad"
(01:00)

Her plea is clear: "I just need to know what are some things that I could say to any man that would make him, like, go into his car after work and just cry in the parking lot?" (01:51) She expresses a desire to "crush the spirit" of those who undermine her, highlighting the emotional strain and her search for effective coping mechanisms.

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Advice Givers Discuss Strategies

The panel of advice givers engages in a candid and nuanced conversation about the complexities of addressing harassment in a military setting.

Understanding the Dynamics

At [02:20], Advice Giver 2 notes the systemic challenge:

"It seems like what's hard is that it's her against this legion of men. So that's going to be challenging."
(02:20)

This underscores the caller's predicament of facing multiple aggressors without immediate support.

Balancing Assertiveness and Respect

The advisers deliberate on finding the right balance between standing up to harassment and maintaining workplace respect. Advice Giver 1 suggests a strategy rooted in humor and gradual assertiveness:

"You have to have something specific. Unfortunately, we can't really give you something generic here."
(07:10)

He emphasizes the importance of specificity in responses to effectively counteract the derogatory remarks without escalating tensions unnecessarily.

Building Camaraderie and Earning Respect

At [08:07], the discussion shifts to the importance of building camaraderie:

"You might have to work a little harder. You might have to bring donuts for everybody."
(08:21)

This approach suggests that fostering positive relationships can help mitigate negative interactions and earn respect over time.

Maintaining Composure and Strategic Responses

The advisers concur on the necessity of maintaining composure while developing strategic responses:

"You don't want to bring someone to their knees with something. You want to ingratiate into the workplace culture here."
(08:07)

They advocate for responses that are jovial and part of everyday interactions, allowing the caller to assert herself without appearing overly aggressive.

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Insights and Conclusions

Throughout the discussion, the panel underscores the complexity of addressing harassment, especially within hierarchical and male-dominated environments like the military. They highlight the importance of:

• Specific and Thoughtful Responses: Crafting remarks that are specific to the situation and non-confrontational yet effective in setting boundaries.

• Building Positive Relationships: Engaging in acts of kindness and fostering camaraderie to create a more supportive and respectful workplace atmosphere.

• Maintaining Emotional Control: Ensuring that responses are measured and composed to prevent further escalation and to maintain professional integrity.

The episode concludes with a reinforcement of the caller's positive intentions:

"You have to do something nice, you know, figure, you know, just really, you know, and don't get too, too ruthless too, too quickly."
(08:15)

This encapsulates the balanced approach recommended by the advisers—assertiveness tempered with kindness and strategic composure.

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Stavvy's World continues to provide a platform for meaningful discussions, offering listeners valuable insights and practical advice on navigating personal and professional challenges. This bonus episode exemplifies the show's dedication to addressing real-life issues with honesty, empathy, and a touch of humor.

Transcript

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[Navy Mechanic]

Hey, savvy. So I'm 19, 19 year old girl, currently in the navy as an aviation mechanic. And I work with mostly old dudes. And my question is, I come in to work and I get stuff like, oh, you look like a crack baby, Roger from American dad. Make a wish, kid. All that stuff, you're see through. You're like a jellyfish. And I just need to know what are some things that I could say to any man that would make him, like, go into his car after work and just cry in the parking lot? I'm talking like, I want to crush the spirit of these uncs that I have the displeasure of working with. All right, thank you.

[Advice Giver 1]

This is tough. We need. It's tough to just give you general.

[Advice Giver 2]

I know. Because it is best for them to be.

[Advice Giver 1]

It seems like they kind of are nailing you.

[Advice Giver 2]

Yeah, it seems like.

[Advice Giver 1]

Okay, we don't know what you look like, but Roger from American dad sounds like you have a big head.

[Advice Giver 2]

Right?

[Advice Giver 3]

You know, like that very thin, fair skin.

[Advice Giver 1]

Yeah, yeah.

[Advice Giver 2]

Make a wish, kid.

[Advice Giver 1]

Yeah, yeah, totally. Exactly, exactly. Like veins on the temples, big eyes probably.

[Advice Giver 2]

Well, I think that maybe the solution to this problem because it seems like what's hard is that you it's her against this legion of men.

[Advice Giver 1]

Yeah.

[Advice Giver 2]

So that's going to be challenging.

[Advice Giver 1]

Yeah.

[Advice Giver 2]

So it's like if it's. When it's one against many doing what they're doing, it's going to be hard from like A bullying aspect because they're going to be able to riff on each other and you don't have anyone on your side. So I think you should actually go more like Real Housewives mode. And I'm like, do these men have wives? Do they have daughters? Can you tattle? Maybe there can be.

[Advice Giver 1]

Oh, no, you can't settle.

[Advice Giver 2]

I think she should be.

[Advice Giver 1]

I don't think he can go to.

[Advice Giver 2]

The man's wife and be like, this is what your man is doing. We're calling me a crack baby. You don't think you can bring that home? She can be beating his ass.

[Advice Giver 1]

No, because here's what's going on here. She's the new guy. Like, I know she's a 19 year old girl and that obviously helps the dynamic, but tattling is the absolute worst thing you can do.

[Advice Giver 3]

You.

[Advice Giver 1]

She's just a low man on the totem pole right now. And like, also, it's the military. Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. They're not. Yeah, they're. They could rape someone and not get in trouble. They're like calling someone a crack baby. They'll be fine. You know what I mean? What this is, is like, is like, it's new person hazing. Yeah, it's hazing. And you're young too. You're a kid. Like, you're going to get it from these un. So, you know, part of it is, is there a new. Because the way this always works, like, is there somebody new on the horizon? Right. Because that rolls downhill. You have to really, you know, you have to, you have to sort of pay your dues. And by the way, you seem to have a pretty good. Your head's in the right place. You want to get back at them. You want to say something funny. You want to like, you want to like, you know, riff and bus balls.

[Advice Giver 2]

Respect it.

[Advice Giver 1]

Yes, yes. Whereas, like, if you were like, don't. You can't like try and get them to stop. You have to fight a little bit. And I think you're right. You're, you know, your instincts are correct. The problem is, you know, how well do you know them? Can we get. Is it too early to get into the body joke territory? Can you tell them they're all old and you know their dicks don't work? You know what I mean? Like, is that. Or is that a little much? You know, it's. Does one of them have a mustache? You could say they look like they're pedophile. Classic stuff, you know what I mean? Like weird glass. Call someone a pedophile yeah, yeah, yeah, exactly. You gotta. Generic stuff for old guys is kind of hard. You also have to like if someone's getting dog piled, you have to jump in. Like you need. Right now, you need. Right now you need low hanging fruit. Right. Like I would say, you know, is somebody. Can you make it look like somebody their pan. You know, put a little chocolate on their. You know and it's like oh, Reggie, his pants. You know, whatever or whatever. Like basically you have to be ball smell. Yeah. You have to be on the lookout for. You have to be on the lookout for an opportunity to score any points here you need some low hanging fruit. If it's a dog pile, get in there with something. They might be surprised. But it also does feel like this is just like good hearted. Like you know, I worked, I worked at a machine shop when I was 20, 19, 20 and there was a lot of like busting balls. There's a lot like white trash and.

[Advice Giver 2]

You know, yeah, you would.

[Advice Giver 1]

But you know, you bust balls back. You know, they call you fat. You call them a. I get some.

[Advice Giver 2]

Hillbillies for sure on the Internet, but I kind of go a little bit more absurdist with my clap acts. I don't really know if this would apply.

[Advice Giver 1]

But those are different. That's a different scenario. Those aren't good natured. No, this is just. You think it's, this is locked. I think this is just hazing. This is just workplace in the army when you're a mechanic it's like.

[Advice Giver 2]

Yeah, it's true.

[Advice Giver 1]

It's just ball busting. And I think she is right to be like I need something good. Unfortunately you're, I can't give you something generic here. Right. Like if they're, you know, if they're.

[Advice Giver 2]

Fat specific to you, you have to be this specific. Bad.

[Advice Giver 1]

Yeah, yeah. And just any fight it's about earning respect. Right. So just attempting stuff is good. If you want to, you know, write back and give us some, some pictures or some, if you want to give us some like, you know, qualifications, look, you know what they're doing? You know, they're finding people. You look like, who do they look like?

[Advice Giver 2]

I mean, who could they look like? It's like, you know, I like. Who's like a really ugly ass guy like Mitch McConnell.

[Advice Giver 1]

Yeah. No, they have deep respect for him. They're, they're, they're air. They're air. Of course, they're mechanics in the Air Force.

[Advice Giver 2]

If he like that, you know, you.

[Advice Giver 1]

Could say you're gonna have to pick.

[Advice Giver 2]

Like you look Like a crypt.

[Advice Giver 1]

Yeah, the Crypt Keeper's good. Is there some guy that looks like the Crypt Keeper? That's good.

[Advice Giver 2]

Yeah.

[Advice Giver 1]

You know. Yeah. Again, pet, these guys also are, like, big. Like, say they look like. How about this? Say they look like Joe Biden. To call them Democrats. Yeah, that's gonna crush the Navy Aviation. Be like, you probably voted for Kamala, you homo. That'll crush. That'll crush. In the. At the. At the Navy. At the N Aviation yard. Come on. Are you kidding me? You know, all this kind of. Was there some. Now, is there a piece of, like, media that's very important who's, like, the biggest loser in Top Gun or something like that? You know what I mean? Like, I don't know. Like, we need a little more specifics. But your head's in the right place. You want to clap back. If they're dog piling, get some licks in. You know what I mean? Like, be unfair. You know, call them ugly. You just gotta have to be specific. Unfortunately, we can't. We really can't. Do your job.

[Advice Giver 3]

I do, I do, I do like what you're saying. Two stuff of just like, yeah, you sort of got to build it up over time. It's not going to be like the profile. You don't want to bring someone to their knees with something. You want to, like, ingratiate into the work workplace culture here.

[Advice Giver 1]

You want them to be dog piling. And you call someone, you know, nice pedophile mustache, Reggie, and they're like, oh, oh, the new girl called you a pedophile, Reggie, kid. Like, that's the moment you want. And it's like, it's also slow, and it's like, you want to be. And then every day you got to come with something. And it has to also just be jovial and it's camaraderie. You know what I mean? Like, and again, you're the low man on the totem pole. You're the pledge here. Can you. Do you also want to, like, earn their respect in other ways? Like, you might have to work a little harder. You might have to bring donuts for everybody. Like, this is just what being young and they're kind of trying to accept you in a hilarious way, even though they are tearing you to shreds with, you know, Roger from American dad or whatever. But, you know, your head's in the right place. Get after them. Do something nice, you know, figure, you know, just. Just really, you know, and don't get too, too ruthless too, too quickly. I agree. You don't want to be angry either. You want it to be like, you know, it's rolling off your back kind of.

[Don Vito Corleone]

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[Advice Giver 2]

You don't want them to see you swag.

[Advice Giver 1]

Yeah. And calling them old is big. They're probably worried about their mortality, you know, that kind of stuff.

[Advice Giver 3]

So the old washed.

[Advice Giver 1]

Washed.

[Advice Giver 3]

You probably don't. Your wife good.

[Advice Giver 1]

Eventually. Yeah. Once you get. Yeah, exactly. You also don't want to be the like 19 year old girl who brings up the sex jokes first. Because then you might have that she's in a harder position here too. Because for me, if I'm a 19 year old guy and it's all guys, I'm saying you're old as you don't get. You know what I mean? And you'll get there from her. You can get there eventually when there's the camaraderie there. But you don't start there. You know what I mean? Like so. Yeah, but your head's in the right place.

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