Bonus #147 - Cheeks Brothers Vol. 1: In the Valley of the Kush [PATREON PREVIEW]

Summary

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Podcast Summary: Stavvy's World – Bonus #147

Episode Title: Cheeks Brothers Vol. 1: In the Valley of the Kush [PATREON PREVIEW]
Date: September 25, 2025
Host: Stavros Halkias
Notable Guests/Co-hosts: Ben, Co-host 1, Co-host 2, Co-host 3

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Episode Overview

In this Patreon bonus episode, Stavros and the "Cheeks Brothers" crew tackle a listener's question about navigating early relationship dynamics when discovering a specific sexual kink—the caller, a self-described "BBW," has realized she enjoys having her belly played with and being hand-fed by romantic partners. With humor, camaraderie, and candid sex positivity, the hosts discuss how to approach intimacy and vulnerability, especially when a new sexual need or identity emerges. The episode navigates advice-giving, personal anecdotes, and the complexities of sharing kinks in a budding relationship.

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Key Discussion Points & Insights

1. The Caller’s Dilemma: New Kink, New Relationship

• Caller Introduction (00:00): Shares discovery of a "niche kink"—enjoys belly play and hand feeding (00:00–00:38).
  • She’s a "big girl, BBW" and has gone on 6 dates with a "skinny, nerdy guy" but has not progressed past making out (00:51).
• Anxiety: Unsure how and when to disclose her kink to a partner who seems reserved and sexually inexperienced.

2. Hosts' Reactions: Humor and Empathy

• Ben’s Immediate Jump: "You’re an undercover freak…" (01:02)
• Group Banter: Joking about the “Jack Skellington and BBW” dynamic.
• Stavros’s ‘Two Belly Problem’ Theory (02:14):
  • “We all know Netflix’s hit adaptation…the Three Body Problem. But do we know about …why it’s hard to [date] other fat people—called the ‘two belly problem.’ Especially when your dick’s little. So anyway, he can get in there like a pipe cleaner…” (02:14–02:37)
  • Memorable for its absurdity and the show’s comedic style.

3. Advice: How and When to Bring Up Kinks

• Laying the Sexual Foundation (05:11):
  • Don’t reveal everything right away; instead, let intimacy build and sprinkle new information about desires.
  • "You lay the base…the sexual foundation. Because...even if you’re a real freak, you don’t give them the full ever." – Ben (05:11)
• Physical Cues Matter: Sometimes natural escalation leads to figuring out partner’s openness.
• Comfort and Trust: Several hosts stress that revealing “big stuff” makes sense only after trust is built (06:23).

4. Timing & Relationship Pace

• Too Slow or Just Right? (07:20):
  • Co-host 1: "If it’s so important to you, you are going a little too slow…you actually have to know a little before you get invested." (07:20)
  • Consensus: Don’t wait forever if it’s a dealbreaker, but also lay groundwork of connection.

5. Practical How-To’s for Introducing the Kink

• Start Small: Suggests that belly rubbing or touch-related requests are often easy to introduce—"Could you rub me…" or giving directions is “always nice” (08:47–09:05).
• Food-Feeding as Escalation: "Don’t go with the party sub right away…start with a couple cherries…then we can say, ‘get the grill going’” – Ben (09:05)
• Use Play & Humor: Ease into it and make it fun (joking about eclairs and Manhattan clam chowder as kink foods).

6. Childhood Origins & Self-Awareness

• Analyzing the Kink’s Origin (04:05):
  • Co-hosts muse on whether being fed/tickled as a child relates to the emergence of the kink.
  • "For me it was getting my cheeks pinched…very interesting. I want fed. Doesn’t…I don’t get it, but…I do kind of like when a bad [person] rubs my belly." – Ben (04:17–04:30)

7. Anecdotes and Digressions: Pillsbury Doughboy & Lewinsky Jokes

• Comic Relief: The Pillsbury Doughboy is invoked as a touch-kink icon (09:53–10:01).
• Personal Childhood Story (10:01–12:10):
  • Hilarious retelling of a Halloween costume (Bill Clinton/Monica Lewinsky) prompts memories about immigrant family reactions to sex and humor.
  • "That was the legendary year…Eldis was dressed as Bill Clinton getting head from Monica Lewinsky. Oh yeah. My mom was always talking about it…flabbergasted." (10:25–11:10)

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Notable Quotes & Memorable Moments

• On Sexual Foundation:
  "Even if you’re somebody who fucks on the first date or second or third, whenever the first encounter happens, you don’t come out guns [blazing]." – Ben (05:11)
• On Taking It Slow:
  "You have to hook up a little bit and still take it slow, but then…after you’ve had that experience, then you can be like, ‘What are you into?’" – Co-host 1 (05:01)
• On Introducing Kinks:
  "Start small. Don’t go with the party sub right away…let’s start with a couple cherries, classic strawberry, cherry bon bon…" – Ben (09:05)
• Comic Relief:
  "If you don’t think I got [Pillsbury Doughboy] hoo hoo…that’s maybe one of my first… These first guy really popped. First bit that popped was going, I dressed as the Doughboy one year." – Ben (09:58)

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Timestamps for Important Segments

• Intro & Caller’s Kink Story: 00:00–02:39
• Hosts’ Theories & Advice Begin: 02:39–07:20
• How to Disclose a Kink: 07:20–09:05
• Belly Rub & Food-Feeding Talk: 08:46–09:45
• Comic Digressions (Pillsbury Doughboy, Bill Clinton costume): 09:53–12:10

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Tone & Style

The conversation is candid and irreverently funny, blending practical sex and dating advice with the hosts' trademark raunchy, playful banter. The group treats the caller’s vulnerability with gentle understanding, but always filtered through their comedic chemistry and penchant for left-field tangents.

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Summary for New Listeners:
This episode features the Cheeks Brothers crew handling the awkward-but-real task of introducing kinks to a new partner. Expect laughter, decent advice about pacing intimacy, and a reminder that being honest with your needs is sexy—even if it takes a couple of eclairs and a Pillsbury Doughboy reference to get there.

Transcript

[Caller]

Hi, Stavi. Big fan. Super excited to get to call you today with something that I think is kind of fun. So I recently discovered through a guy that I was dating that I might have a special kind of niche kink. I am. I'm a big girl bbw. And I like having my belly played with.

[Ben]

Whoa.

[Caller]

I also like being fed, like hand fed. Yummy, yummy treats. So it's. It's weird because I. I was never into this before and now it's pretty much like mostly what I care about and I want a date. And in fact, I am in the early stages of seeing someone and I haven't told him anything about this yet. We've been on six dates. We haven't had sex. We've, you know, we've made out a little bit, but that's about it.

[Ben]

He's. You're free. You're an undercover freak, and you haven't even so much as suck dick in six dates. But that's common to not.

[Co-host 1]

Some people just have a harder shell and once you get past it, then they're like, no, no.

[Ben]

But I'm saying six.

[Co-host 1]

Six is a lot. Six is a lot.

[Ben]

I mean, am I being a prude here?

[Co-host 1]

No, I don't think.

[Ben]

I think six is when it starts getting. I would even say. I would. Five to me is kind of like a reasonable. You know what I mean? Like, I don't especially. It's like, I mean, maybe these are very casual.

[Co-host 1]

Yeah. You could be counting like the coffee you got or whatever. Six is like the benefit of the doubt.

[Ben]

Six to we've only made out a little is a little strange because I could see like going a couple of dates making out, not fudgeing, whatever. But I agree with you.

[Co-host 2]

She does touch on. She does handle a little bit more.

[Ben]

Keep going.

[Co-host 2]

Yeah. Let's just hear out.

[Caller]

Very shy, very sweet, super like skinny, nerdy guy. Exactly what I'm into.

[Ben]

But pause this. I've seen Worry the Anime Club a lot.

[Co-host 3]

Oh, yeah.

[Ben]

Jack Skellington, a nice bbw.

[Co-host 1]

That's my favorite.

[Ben]

I love that combo, dude. And I get it, dude. I get it. I've said I've often talked about, you know, the two belly problem.

[Co-host 1]

Yes, you.

[Ben]

We all know Netflix's hit adaptation of the book the Three Body Problem.

[Co-host 3]

Yes.

[Ben]

But do we know about the Stavros Halkis theory of why it's hard to other fat people called the two belly problem. Especially when your dick's little. So anyway, he can get in there like a pipe cleaner. Really? And really, really. And really, really get in those cheeks. So I love this. This is very cute. This is a cute couple. Keep going.

[Caller]

Eld Me bringing up this kink is going to be like a lot for him. So I wondered if you had like, any ideas as to how I could broach the subject with him, especially since we haven't like had sex at all yet. It is really important to me. It's not something that I can just like forget and like not partake in. It's a huge part of my sexuality now. So, yeah, if you have any recommendations on how to get this man to feed me and. Or jiggle my belly, that would be awesome.

[Ben]

She's a fucking sultan. Sexual. She's a Buddhist. Sexual. She needs to get her belly rubbed to nut.

[Co-host 2]

That's awesome. So that's. That's what I was going to say for starters. Do you know she. She has. It's been six dates. They haven't. But it sounds like for her this is like change her sexual.

[Ben]

Sure.

[Co-host 2]

Life.

[Ben]

Absolutely.

[Co-host 2]

And she can't even like think about.

[Ben]

Getting into origin story. What happened.

[Co-host 2]

I know. Yeah, we did. We do have. Definitely need.

[Ben]

She's getting. She's getting railed. The guy like bumps his head. There's some Reese's pieces on the shelf. They fall into her mouth and she's like, oh. He's like, are you okay? Are you all right? And then she's nuts even harder. Maybe that's what happened.

[Co-host 1]

It feels like. It does feel like child. Like. Like kind of.

[Ben]

Right, elders, hold on, hold on. Right, elders.

[Co-host 2]

I think so. Okay. That's very possible.

[Ben]

Thank you, Ben. Go ahead. You think it's connected to childhood?

[Co-host 1]

I think it's. It is like being fed, being kind of cared for.

[Ben]

Tickled. I mean that's a. A very. A cared for child. Fat child.

[Co-host 3]

Yes. Yeah.

[Ben]

Was definitely getting like. For me it was get. I getting my ch. Cheeks pinched.

[Co-host 3]

Yeah.

[Ben]

Very interesting. I want fed. Doesn't. Doesn't. I don't get it, but I. I gotta say, I do kind of like when a bad rubs my belly.

[Co-host 3]

Yeah. Y.

[Ben]

Not like. Not even like it helps me nut, but I'm just like. This is cool.

[Co-host 3]

Yeah. Yeah.

[Ben]

I like feel good about yourself. Yeah. Yeah.

[Co-host 1]

I think that it's. It's an interesting question because it is weird to talk with someone about that before. Like if you've only made out. I think that's what the wall here is. It's like you have to go a little bit into that water.

[Ben]

Absolutely.

[Co-host 1]

And then kind of like get a sense of. You get A sense better. Like, sometimes you. You start hooking up with someone and it's instantly. You're like, oh, you're a freak.

[Ben]

Right.

[Co-host 1]

You know what I mean? You're like.

[Ben]

Right.

[Co-host 1]

You get that vibe. I feel like you have to hook up a little bit and still take it slow, but then just kind of like after you've had that experience, then you can be like, what are you into? Like, I just need you to know.

[Ben]

Yeah. You lay the base. You lay the base, the sexual, like, you know, foundation. Foundation down. And then. Because I think that's common. Even if you would. Even if. Even if you're somebody who fucks on the first date or the second or third date, it's like, which. Whenever the first encounter happens, you don't come out guns. No, no, no. You know what I mean? Even if you're into. Even if you're a real freak, you might be a little freaker than someone who's not. But you don't give them the full. The full ever. You might hint towards it.

[Co-host 3]

Yeah.

[Ben]

And maybe you might react more if he happens to rub your belly or some. But, like, you gotta lay the sexual foundation. You gotta feel comfortable because you might also get a vibe. I mean, some of this is physical too, right? Like, you might just catch a vibe that helps you understand how to. Or things might happen naturally. There might be some.

[Co-host 1]

And a lot of people. I mean, a lot of people's turn on is just what turns the other person on for sure.

[Ben]

So there's a lot of.

[Co-host 1]

I feel like there's a ton of people that.

[Ben]

Especially a skinny nerdy. Skinny nerdy dude.

[Co-host 3]

Yeah.

[Ben]

I think you're. You're very. It's possible that it's either that he just wants to make you feel good no matter what, or. Because sometimes you hear about, like, shy people being the biggest freaks. Mm. Especially these fucking game.

[Co-host 1]

I think it makes sense. It's like.

[Ben]

It might be into some weird.

[Co-host 1]

It's kind of heavy. It's big stuff.

[Ben]

Yeah.

[Co-host 1]

So it kind of feels like I want to trust you before, right?

[Ben]

True.

[Co-host 1]

I tell you.

[Ben]

True, true.

[Co-host 1]

I know.

[Co-host 2]

That's what I'm wondering. It's like, what, so she just can't fuck anymore? Absolutely not. If she can't do this shit. Or it's like just fuck the guy one time.

[Ben]

Yeah, I know. I think. I think what I'm hearing here is that. I mean, she's been on six days with this person. She seems to really like him, and it's enough for her to stay in the game. Yeah. You know, so it seems like she wants it to work with this guy. And so her worry is like, if this was somebody she's probably hooking up with, she'd probably ask them to do it. If they said no, she'd be like, hit the brakes. But for her, it's like, this is a new deal breaker for me. She's found out what she has to have sexually, which. Good for you, sister. If we could all be so lucky. And she kind of wants to make sure, like, if he's not into it, he's not into it. But I don't want to blow it because of the way I tell it to him. I think that's her worry.

[Co-host 1]

I actually do think in this situation, if it's so important to you, you are going a little too slow in a sense, because it's like, you actually have to know a little bit before you get invested.

[Ben]

If you're sexual. Yeah.

[Co-host 1]

So you might need to, like, check.

[Ben]

You should soon.

[Co-host 1]

Either earlier or later.

[Ben]

You need to. This guy soon and lay the sexual foundation.

[Co-host 3]

Yeah.

[Ben]

And then you can talk about it.

[Co-host 2]

Yeah.

[Ben]

I mean, I suppose some people, when they wait that long, might want to have a conversation beforehand. Right. Like, and you can kind of start with. I mean, I feel like the belly rub's not even a tough ask. Yeah. No.

[Co-host 1]

And it's food fed. This sounds hot.

[Ben]

Yeah. Yeah. I mean, the feeding is closer to weird Belly rub.

[Co-host 2]

I think I know a couple eclairs on the side of the bed. Don't sound so bad.

[Co-host 1]

What are we feeding?

[Ben]

I don't feel. Listen, I'm not mad. Let me say. Let me tell you something. I'm not. I'm getting my dick sucks and a girl hands me a donut. You think I'm getting pissed off at that? I'm just saying I can't imagine sitting girl down being like, you got to feed me mozzarella sticks. Or you got to go like, I can't imagine that. Right.

[Co-host 1]

You're already asking so much of the woman to just be there.

[Ben]

She's the fuck me immediately. Just that. So. But anyway, I just. See, I feel like a rub on a body part is so cl. Like, whatever. Even if it's like, clearly some, you know, rub me.

[Co-host 3]

Yeah.

[Ben]

Rub my fat, whatever. It's like, people are into that. People are into getting so many different parts of their bodies rubbed where I feel like that could happen pretty fast without it even needing to be a whole conversation. You could just be like, could you rub me? Like, what? Do you know what you Know, just tell someone where to touch you. Yeah, that's always nice when somebody gives you directions. Yeah, I have no problem with that.

[Co-host 3]

Yeah.

[Ben]

When you know, somebody knows exactly. Like, you got to squeeze your left tit at a certain, you know, angle, you know, whatever. Like, whenever somebody knows their. That's good. And then I think you just go off of that and then see where you. You be like, you know what else I like? And start small. Don't go with the party sub right away. Don't get the subway hoagie. You know what I mean? Start with a couple cherries, some classic strawberry cherry. Bon bon. Was that a little bon bonus? Truffle whipped cream. Let's start there. Let's start in the. And then we can say, all right, get a kielbasa. Get the grill going.

[Co-host 2]

Get the crab dip.

[Ben]

Okay. Let's get a. Let's get a Manhattan clam chowder out here.

[Co-host 1]

The Pillsbury Doughboy, maybe, huh? The Pillsbury Doughboy.

[Ben]

What about it?

[Co-host 1]

Likes to get ticked.

[Ben]

And by the way, I would. If you don't think. Oh, yeah. If you don't think. I got. Hoo hoo. That's maybe one of my first. These. First guy really popped. First bit that popped was going, I dressed as the Doughboy one year. Yeah. That was the legendary year. Eldis was dressed as Bill Clinton getting head from Monica Lewinsky. Oh, yeah. My mom was always talking about it before. My mom was flabbergasted.

[Co-host 1]

How old were you?

[Ben]

We were young.

[Co-host 2]

She was third grade, maybe fourth grade.

[Co-host 1]

It was of him getting head.

[Ben]

Well, he had a. We talked about it before, but whatever. Fuck you guys. What happens when your cheeks. Brothers. Deep in the Valley of Kush. Deep in the Valley of the Kush, Volume 1. His. He had a mask that had, like, Bill. There was clearly a Bill Clinton with his tongue out.

[Co-host 2]

Like, it was a rubber Bill Clinton mask. His hair was all muffled.

[Ben]

His hair was muffed up.

[Co-host 2]

He had, like, lipstick kisses all over his face. He just had a wild little face with his tongue sticking out.

[Ben]

So eldest got that.

[Co-host 2]

So I had that mask. And then I just put on the suit. I like, untucked one side of it. I like, disheveled. The.

[Ben]

Yeah. Who gets headed?

[Co-host 2]

And, you know, one half was, like, out of my pants.

[Ben]

Zipper was down.

[Co-host 2]

The other half was, like, popping out of the zipper of the shirt.

[Ben]

Yeah.

[Co-host 2]

And. Yeah. I was like, trick or treating like that this year.

[Ben]

And my mom was, like, horrified, mortified.

[Co-host 2]

Yeah.

[Ben]

She's like, I don't understand. And she. You know, I remember. I don't think our mom's ever had a disagreement ever. Except for my mom being like, like, completely taken aback that we were like, not like, I remember the conversation and my dad laughing, my dad being like. And my mom being like, why would a child.

[Co-host 2]

I thought it was so awesome.

[Ben]

And it was.

[Co-host 2]

I was like, this is hilarious.

[Ben]

We also didn't know what getting your dick sucked. We just kind of knew he had sex.

[Co-host 1]

And you knew that adults were making fun of us.

[Ben]

We just knew that adults would get naked with the, you know, and my.

[Co-host 2]

Parents did think it was like a hoot. They loved it.

[Ben]

Yeah.

[Co-host 2]

Like, oh, that is pretty funny.

[Co-host 1]

It is pretty funny.

[Ben]

It is very fun.

[Co-host 2]

It's like Bond Bajre immigrant humor. Attitude towards, like, sex.

[Ben]

It really, really. There's so, so few times where I feel like we had different experiences, but that's when you show that you're the sub level of the Titanic, that you were. You know what I mean? You were right next to the boilers and I was, I was still under, below deck. Don't get me wrong. I don't get to be up top, but I was just like, oh.