Bonus #159 - McDade's Maniacs Vol. 10 w/ Myka Fox [PATREON PREVIEW]

Summary

Stavvy's World — Bonus #159: "McDade's Maniacs Vol. 10 w/ Myka Fox" (Patreon Preview)

Main Theme / Purpose
In this episode, Stavros Halkias and his friends, including guest Myka Fox, respond to a caller’s dilemma about his best friend's nephew's girlfriend, whom he dislikes. The conversation explores boundaries, mentorship, youthful relationships, and the nature of unsolicited advice, all with their signature roasting and riffing.

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Key Discussion Points & Insights

1. Clarifying the Voicemail Situation

• Caller’s Concern: The caller, a friend of the uncle, is bothered that his friend's nephew (aged about 19–20) is dating a girl who doesn’t "go along with bits" and “thinks we’re genuinely being mean.” He also shares that she accused the nephew of being an alcoholic after a night of drinking anime-watching.
• The hosts initially joke about the confusing ages and relationships described, replaying the voicemail for clarity ([01:25–01:37]).
• Quote — Stavros: “Off the bat. This is insane that a grown man is mad a child won’t riff.” ([02:18])

2. The Question of Meddling

• Caller’s Objective: Seeks advice on how to “instill confidence” in the nephew and encourage him to leave his "bad" girlfriend.
• The hosts express strong skepticism that this is any of the caller’s business.
• They emphasize the natural process of learning through relationships at that age.
• Quote — Stavros: “Let the kid have his shitty first girlfriend.” ([06:17])
• Myka Fox: “Now you’re baiting him with booze to get him to hang out with you. I’m onto this.” ([07:37])

3. Perspective on Youthful Relationships

• The hosts agree poor partner choices at 19–20 are normal; they’re “kids figuring it out.”
• “You’re coming off really weird, man. You are coming off insanely loserish.” — Stavros ([05:26])
• “As someone who was a fat kid, I would have killed to have a dumb bitch girlfriend when I was 19.” — Stavros ([05:46])

4. The Issue of "Mentorship" and Boundaries

• Even in closer mentor relationships, “don’t proactively meddle.” Offer guidance only if approached.
• Myka draws a comparison to supporting a small child through a tantrum: let them take the lead in seeking help.
• Quote — Myka: “You walk him through it... let him try and figure it out for himself.” ([09:32–09:39])

5. Criticism of the Caller’s Perspective

• The hosts suggest the caller is projecting his own issues and insecurities onto the nephew’s relationship.
• They hint he might be threatened by the girl’s role in the nephew’s life or just judgmental.
• Quote — Stavros: “I have a sting suspicion you are not fulfilled in your life and maybe look inward before getting mad at a, you know, 19 year old girl.” ([11:12])

6. The Futility—and Potential Harm—of Telling Someone to Leave Their First Love

• Telling a teen in love that their partner is wrong for them usually has the opposite effect (“lean into it harder” — Myka, [09:19]).
• Adults can’t save young people from relationship mistakes; growth comes from experience.

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Notable Quotes & Memorable Moments

• “What kind of relationship do you think friend of your boyfriend’s uncle is to a fucking girl in high school or, you know, college?” — Stavros, lampooning the caller’s entitlement ([02:23])
• “A girl could have treated me anyway. Who cares? I think it’s better for him to have a shitty girlfriend.” — Stavros ([05:46])
• “You’re taking it personally and you’re being weird… Let the kid have his shitty first girlfriend.” — Stavros ([06:15–06:17])
• “He should have—he’ll learn this lesson by doing it. This is like you being like, ‘my friend’s nephew… he’s using training wheels on a bike. How do I tell him to have the confidence to use a motorcycle?’” — Stavros ([06:52])
• “You don’t need pussy, you need alcohol.” — Myka, riffing on the dynamic ([11:10])
• “Your uncle’s loser friend not stopping him from getting pussy is not gonna fix his confidence issues.” — Stavros ([11:09])

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Key Timestamps

• [00:59–01:43] — Caller describes the situation and complaints about the girlfriend
• [02:04–02:46] — Hosts dissect the caller’s logic and poke fun at his preoccupation with "riffing"
• [05:26–07:40] — Main critique about boundaries and projecting insecurities, shift to discussing normalcy of bad relationships at 19
• [09:32–11:12] — Advice on mentorship, boundaries, and when (if ever) to intervene in young people's relationships
• [11:12–11:40] — Conclusion: Reflection on the caller's possible motivations and closing advice

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Tone and Style

The conversation is irreverent, rapidly bouncing between sincere advice, exasperated roasting, and exaggerated analogies. The hosts use self-deprecation and personal anecdotes to ground their takes, punctuating their guidance with humor and realness.

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Takeaway:
The group uniformly advises the caller to leave the nephew’s relationship alone. The nephew will learn from experience, and unsolicited interventions are at best pointless and at worst counterproductive. As Myka notes, being a supportive presence is only appropriate when invited, and as Stavros sums up, “look inward before getting mad at a 19 year old girl.”

Transcript

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[Caller]

Cmintmobile.com hey starve eldest hey guest. Left a voicemail, but it wasn't really good. Want to give more detail? Got a best friend that has a nephew. I've known this nephew since he's about 10 years old. I've watched him grown up grow up. Recently got his first girlfriend I believe within a year, year and a half. Long story short, she sucks like she won't go along with bits if we try to roast her.

[Host 1]

He's 10?

[Host 2]

No, no, I think he's 19. Since he was 10.

[Host 1]

Oh okay.

[Host 2]

Wait, I don't know.

[Host 3]

I thought he was 10.

[Host 4]

10.

[Host 1]

I think. I think he's known. Wait, he's known his nephew since he was 10? What is it?

[Host 3]

He says he's about 10 years old.

[Host 1]

Oh, play it again from the beginning.

[Caller]

I was left a voicemail but it wasn't really good. Want to give more detail? Got a best friend that has a nephew. I've known this nephew since he's about 10 years old. I've watched him grown up grow up. Recently got his first girlfriend I believe within a year year and a half. Long story short 6 she she sucks like she won't go along with bits if we try to roast her. She thinks we're genuinely being mean. Just doesn't.

[Host 1]

This is what this is what Michael Richards thought about Jerry Seinfeld's 19 year old girlfriend. He was like she won't even riff.

[Host 2]

I say one little naughty word around her and she gets all uptight.

[Host 1]

Anyway. Okay this is ins. Let's just. Off the bat. This is insane.

[Host 2]

Yeah.

[Host 1]

That a grown man is mad a child won't rip. A girl who's dating his friend's nephew won't riff with him. What do you. What kind of relationship do you think friend of your boyfriend's uncle is to a fucking girl in high school or, you know, college?

[Host 3]

Do you have her calling in, hey, so my uncle's friend.

[Host 1]

Yeah, yeah.

[Host 3]

Keeps trying to hang out with me.

[Host 1]

Yeah. My boyfriend's uncle's friend doesn't think I'm funny. He keeps trying to fucking show me memes. Anyway, let's finish it.

[Caller]

Genuinely being mean and just doesn't, you know, vibe along. Most recent thing is that the nephew and his brother got together, started drinking for the nephew's 20th birthday, started watching anime. Girlfriend finds out all of a sudden, starts calling him an alcoholic. All of a sudden says he's gonna start ruining his life. And, like, you know, all this toxic. And overall, I just don't like her. So what can I tell, you know? Basically, my nephew, like, the guy's a kid. I've watched grow up. Hey, get rid of this chick. You deserve better.

[Host 4]

What?

[Caller]

He's a bigger guy. Not a lot of confidence. So I get why he's kind of dealing with it, but, you know, he's.

[Host 3]

Complained about her kid have his slump buster.

[Caller]

Good for him.

[Host 1]

Yeah.

[Caller]

So I want to try for him.

[Host 2]

What the are you talking about?

[Host 1]

Yeah, this is the kind of thing that you're like, oh, isn't this hilarious? Like, isn't it funny? Like, you know. You know, Billy's. Billy's girlfriend's kind of a fucking idiot. Oh, well, they're children. Who cares?

[Host 3]

Yeah. What, are they gonna get married? They're not Amish, right?

[Host 1]

20, dude. 20. Anyway, let's finish. Let's finish this call.

[Caller]

So I want to try to find a way to instill the confidence in him to be like, hey, you can get somebody that doesn't suck. You can get somebody that doesn't call you an alcoholic, like my wife with.

[Host 1]

Your brother, or else you'll end up like me.

[Caller]

Let me know. Love the podcast. Hope to hear what you got.

[Host 1]

Okay. It's possible to be like, I don't really like. And, okay, we're busting your balls. But also, he said, who do you say? It's like, his friend's nephew.

[Host 4]

Yeah.

[Host 1]

So it's kind of like if you. You know. But even you and your nieces, it's like, I wouldn't.

[Host 4]

About my other nephew or it's like his friends.

[Host 1]

Oh, your other nephew. That's true. That's a better example, actually.

[Host 4]

That's. That's why I'm like, okay, I could.

[Host 1]

Kind of see it, but he's also. How old is he now?

[Host 4]

Like 22.

[Host 1]

So it would be like if. Okay, But n. Honestly, 19 and 20. Like 19 turning 20 is a lot different than even 22, 23. Right. Like, this is someone who's in college, like, to give a. Okay, it's so it's like, for example, if that kid had a girlfriend who sucked, I would have an opinion. I. We would talk about it, but I would never be like, bro, man to man, she's sucking the life out of you, dude. You would just be like, oh, I hope this kid figures it out.

[Host 2]

Like goldeneye. To be like, let's talk for a second.

[Host 1]

Yeah, you are coming off really weird, man. You are coming off insanely loserish. You. You're coming. Honestly, I hate to be this. You're making me be woke, but you're coming off misogynistic. You, you're being like, she's a Shrill Harpy, this 20 year old.

[Host 2]

She's a real wet blanket this time.

[Host 1]

It's like, dude, they're fucking kids if he's a. Listen, as someone who was a fat kid, I would have killed to have a dumb bitch girlfriend when I was 19. I didn't get pussy to get pussy at 19. A girl could have treated me anyway. Who cares? I think it's better for him to have a shitty girlfriend. That might. And by the way, she's not even. We don't even know that she's shitty because you're weird. So what?

[Host 3]

Your natural sex. I can tell. She can't even riff, bro.

[Host 1]

We don't even know that you're funny.

[Host 2]

This guy's asking us to vouch for his sense of humor sight unseen.

[Host 1]

If anything off of your energy, I am betting she's funnier than you are. Just off of your general demeanor. There is something very wrong with how you're taking this. You're taking it personally and you're being weird. I just. You got to know that you're being strange. Let the kid have his shitty first girlfriend. Is this. Is this projection on your part? What was your life like when you were 19? And by the way, you want to know how he gets confidence? It's like you go through a couple relationships when you're 19 and 20.

[Host 3]

You work your way up.

[Host 1]

This is when you up. He should have like, he learned. He'll learn this lesson by doing it. This is like you being like my friend's nephew, you know, he's still. He's using training wheels on a bike. How do I tell him to have the confidence to use two wheel? You know what I mean? To use a motorcycle? And it's like, that's not the age he's at right now, dude. Like, this isn't a matter of confidence. He'll figure it out for himself. Don't meddle in a child's affairs.

[Host 3]

Yeah, it's also not even your fucking place.

[Host 1]

I have.

[Host 3]

I have friends who are 40 who are picking bad partners. I'm like, good luck with that.

[Host 1]

I'm standing fuck out of this 100%. And like, look, you might be closer to him than we're giving you credit for, but it's kind of weird, dude.

[Host 3]

Now you're baiting him with booze and to get him to hang out with you. I'm onto this.

[Host 1]

Yeah, yeah, yeah, totally. You're mad. This is the only reason he calls you. He needs you to buy him twisted tees. He needs you to buy him twisted twist. The only reason he calls this guy is like, hey, can you buy me a handle of vodka? That's the only back and forth he has. And he's scared this girl might take his connection.

[Host 3]

Handle a vodka. You can't even handle a kid.

[Host 1]

So, yeah, dude, you. Something is really off with your energy here. It's. It's kind of making me uncomfortable if I'm being completely honest with you. The amount you're judging a 19 year old girl for not thinking, for not having your sense of humor.

[Host 3]

Wait, can you serious? Can you imagine, right? He talks that kid into dumping her and she finds out that he was. She was dumb because Steve, off on a podcast, was like, you gotta get rid of her, bro.

[Host 1]

Yeah, yeah. How old is this guy? Does he say?

[Host 4]

He didn't say, but he must be.

[Host 2]

I don't know, on the low end, mid 20s at the absolute.

[Host 4]

Yeah, probably late 20s.

[Host 2]

I mean, your conversations with your friends, like 19, 20 year old kid should be like, hey, how you doing? Going to college.

[Host 1]

Yeah.

[Host 2]

All right.

[Host 1]

Yeah, exactly. Dude, how.

[Caller]

How often are you hanging out?

[Host 1]

Crazy? I mean, I mean, if we also.

[Host 4]

Want to give him like the full benefit of a dad, it's like the same principles do apply when it is like your real friend. Like when, when your friends in a bad relationship, like unless it's like something crazy, catastrophic, or even like abusive, like you can't really tell them, like, it sucks. They just have to like learn it for themselves and like suffer through it.

[Host 1]

And like that.

[Host 4]

And, and like that principle just applies double. And it's like a kid where like when an adult tells them like that person's bad for you, that just makes them want to rebel. 100 lean into it harder.

[Host 1]

Yeah. Okay, true. Let's give them benefit of doubt. This is a kid that looks at you as a mentor.

[Host 4]

Right?

[Host 1]

Let's just say that's the case. Okay? You walk. You don't proactively meddle. If he comes to you or if he talks to you, it's like, it's like, you know, I watched my friend, I watched my friend like talk her 3 year old through a temper tantrum. She was like, breathe. How do we deal with our feeling? He was like, can you take a deep breath? He was like, no. And she's like, okay, but can you try? And he was like. And then he was like, I feel better. And she's like, good. How do you know? Like, you walk him through it. You're like, he comes to you, he's like, hey, hey, fucking uncle, whatever the fuck. I don't. I'm having like, I'm feeling bummed out. He's like, why, buddy? What's going on with your relate. And then you let him talk it out and you don't even give him direction. Just let him try and figure it out for himself. But I have to just come back to how uncomfortable it makes me the amount you're judging this child that the child you know is dating. Just let him. She might be fine for him. And look, maybe she's a little bit. Maybe she's a little bit of like, she's more, a little more uptight than, than he is. But it's like kids figure this out. Whatever. Who gives a. And is he an alcoholic? Because also, again, the problem is we don't under. You are an unreliable narrator here. Like, what if this kid is getting fucked up all the time? You know what I mean? Like, it is. And maybe she probably doesn't. She's probably overreacting. But either way, he's fat. He's a fat kid. And you think he has confidence issues? His uncle's loser friend not stopping him from getting pussy is not gonna fix his confidence issues.

[Host 3]

Yeah, you don't need pussy. You need alcohol.

[Host 1]

You need to chill with me, dude. You need to get fucked up with a 32 year old. You need to spend time with a girl you like. Yeah. Anyway, man, I have a sting suspicion. You don't. You are not fulfilled in your life and maybe look inward before getting mad at a, you know, 19 year old girl.

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