Bonus #180 - Maddy Smith and Sahib Singh [PATREON PREVIEW]

Summary

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Stavvy’s World – Bonus #180: Maddy Smith and Sahib Singh [PATREON PREVIEW]

Podcast: Stavvy’s World
Host: Stavros Halkias
Guests: Maddy Smith, Sahib Singh
Date: May 14, 2026
Main Theme:
A listener seeks advice about confronting her former adoptive guardians who misappropriated a large sum of life insurance/Social Security money intended for her.

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Episode Overview

In this bonus Patreon preview, Stavros ("Stavvy") Halkias and guests Maddy Smith and Sahib Singh listen to a listener's emotionally complex voicemail. The caller, raised by her aunt and uncle after her birth mother's custodial rights were lost, recounts being thrown out as a teenager for rejecting their religious beliefs and later discovering her guardians concealed and used up to $180,000 of life insurance or Social Security money meant for her. Now 25, she seeks advice about confronting them—if it's even worth it.

Stav and the gang balance empathy and comic relief as they unpack the situation, offer advice on dealing with betrayal, and riff on everything from Mormon underwear to revenge fantasies.

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Key Discussion Points & Insights

1. Listener’s Backstory and the Dilemma

• [00:50 – 06:22]
  • The caller details her early family trauma: her mother loses custody; aunt and uncle become legal guardians but are unprepared and, she suggests, neglectful.
  • At 18, she's evicted for expressing atheism in a Mormon household and moves in with her boyfriend’s supportive family.
  • She discovers checks totaling about $1,300/month had been arriving on her behalf since she was very young, meant as a college fund, totaling perhaps $180,000. Her aunt and uncle had funneled the money for themselves, though they insist it was used for her "care".
  • Now 25 and less emotionally attached, the caller wonders: should she finally confront her guardians or just let it go?

2. Initial Emotional Reactions & Comic Relief

• [06:22 - 07:27]
  • Stavros: “I think you gotta kill ‘em.” (06:22)
    • (He’s jokingly taking it to an absurd degree, setting a tone for cathartic venting.)
  • The comedians riff on 'death by hammer' and make it clear they're joking; they pivot to real advice quickly.
  • All acknowledge the deep betrayal: "These are people that live in their own world... they’re fucking scum." – Stavros (06:47)

3. Advice: Should She Confront Them?

• [06:35 - 10:49]
  • Stavros encourages the caller to do whatever will provide closure for her, not them.
    • “You shouldn't feel bad about saying anything to them. These people are lower than low.” (06:46)
    • “Nothing you say will get through to the kind of scumbag that these people are.” (07:13)
  • He explains that confronting them is about self-liberation, not changing them: "This is for you...to get it off your chest." (08:18)
  • A lawyer could be consulted—but statistically, it's probably too late for legal recourse. Any confrontation is for personal closure.
  • Anticipate gaslighting: "They're going to bring stuff up that didn't even happen... If you’re not a big confrontation person, maybe it’s not worth your time.” – Stavros (10:29 – 10:33)
  • Support for speaking out as a practice of self-assertion, especially after an abusive childhood: “Standing up to the people that were scumbags to you... that’s good for you.” – Stavros (10:50)

4. Dark Comic Fantasies: Petty Revenge Suggestions

• [12:11 – 15:54]
  • Maddy, Sahib, and Stavi riff on petty (and outlandish) revenge:
    • Hide broccoli in their house so it rots and smells bad.
    • Hide electronic devices that beep at odd intervals to “make them go crazy.”
    • Release bedbugs into their home: “Honestly, you could do them a hundred thousand dollars worth of damage. Bedbugs… sometimes you can’t fix that.” – Stavros (15:43)
    • Put bedbugs in “special Mormon underwear."
  • They clarify: don’t hurt innocents (like pets), but feel free to prank.
  • Throughout, the mood is cathartic rather than prescriptive; listeners are reminded these jokes are for the sake of venting.

5. Mormonism & Cultural Commentary

• [16:20 – 19:15]
  • Mini-deep dive on Mormon “temple garments”:
    • Maddy reads: “They are a physical, private reminder of promises made in the temple and serve as a symbol of commitment to Jesus Christ.” (18:05)
  • Stavros lampoons the origins: “[Mormonism] is just what fucking... If you watch Deadwood people are wearing shit like this.” (19:14)
  • General tongue-in-cheek jabs at organized religion: “No disrespect— all religions are pretty stupid. But the newer it is…” (17:13)
  • Shoutouts to “ex-Mormon girls” (“Mormons are pretty hot.” – Co-host, 19:30), and jokes about how “pent up” and “rebellious” they are.

6. Validating the Listener’s Pain

• [15:55 – 16:20]
  • The hosts reaffirm the depth of the betrayal: “Sorry that happened to you. That’s fucking insane.” – Stavros (15:55)
  • They reinforce that the aunt/uncle knew they were lying: “You know why they even know they're lying? Because they told her mom, who was one of their siblings, that they were putting it in a college fund.”

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Notable Quotes & Memorable Moments

• “Imagine saying you’re religious and treating a child like that... Your stupid fake-ass God is not— If you think he’s real, you think he’d be pumped that you kicked a kid from your house, you idiots.” – Stavros (01:53)
• “These people are fucking scum… you should be able to let the fucking Uzi spray on these motherfuckers. Don’t even worry about their feelings…” – Stavros (06:46)
• “Nothing you say will get through... This is for you, this is for your fucking...to get it off your chest. This is not...there’s nothing to do with them.” – Stavros (08:18)
• On petty revenge: “Do some shit. Prank call them… get a little crazy going.” – Co-host (14:18)
• On bedbugs: “Honestly, you could do them a hundred thousand dollars worth of damage. Bedbugs... sometimes you can’t fix that.” – Stavros (15:43)
• On Mormon underwear: “They are a physical, private reminder of promises made in the temple and serve as a symbol of commitment to Jesus Christ.” – Co-host quoting research (18:05)
• “Mormons are nice people… shoutout to ex-Mormon girls. Mormons are pretty hot.” – Commentary on Mormon culture/blondeness (19:15-19:33)

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Timestamps for Important Segments

• 00:50 – Listener’s voicemail: the story and dilemma
• 06:22 – The crew’s initial reactions and jokes
• 06:46 – Stavros’ raw advice on confronting abusers
• 08:18 – Why confrontation is for the caller, not her relatives
• 10:29 – “Nothing you say will get through…” gaslighting warning
• 12:11 – Petty revenge/venting comedy section
• 16:20 – Mormon temple garments & religion riff
• 15:55 & throughout – Reaffirming empathy for the caller’s pain

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Episode Tone and Takeaways

The episode is candid, brash, and darkly funny, balancing real-world advice on trauma and closure with irreverent takes and cathartic jokes about revenge. While the “advice” sometimes leans toward the absurd for comedic effect, there’s a clear through-line of support—validating the hurt caused by family betrayal, and empowering the listener to pursue closure on her own terms.

Stavros and guests ultimately urge the caller to look out for herself above all—whether that means confronting her guardians for her own healing, pursuing legal advice just in case, or choosing to disengage and conserve her energy. And, if all else fails, at least enjoy the fantasy of releasing bedbugs in a Mormon underwear drawer.

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Transcript

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[Caller/Stavi Eldis]

Hey Stavi Eldis, esteemed guest, I have a crazy situation I need some advice on and I'll try to keep this short and talk fast, but it's a lot and I tried to record it before and it's ran out of time so I'm gonna go fast. Important backstory My birth mom lost custody when I was like 7 or 8 and my aunt and uncle across the country then took me in and became my legal guardians. Living with them was tumultuous. They just weren't equipped to be adoptive parents. I could go into depth, but that's for a different story. So when I was 18 we got

[Host/Advisor]

into a pre we're not even getting into that. And I told she's like there's a lot to get into. The people that raised me weren't ready to be adoptive parents. But hey, we can't even get into here nor there. Let's get the real meat. That's not a part of it. All right, keep going.

[Caller/Stavi Eldis]

To the adoptive parents, I could go into depth, but that's for a different story. So when I was 18 we got into a pretty big argument and I told them that I didn't believe in God, they're Mormon. And it ended up with my mom telling me to get my and leave. So I left and I with my boyfriend at the time and his family

[Host/Advisor]

took me in because imagine saying you're religious and treating a child like that. These people are such it's like it's a kid, you retard. It's she's 16, she's rebelling. Your stupid Fake ass God is not. He would if. If he's real. If you think he's real, you think he'd be pumped that you kicked out a kid from your house, you idiots. Yeah, anyway, go ahead.

[Caller/Stavi Eldis]

They thought my parents were insane and they helped me see just how ridiculously badly they had treated me for.

[Co-host 1]

So her boyfriend's family that you moved long.

[Host/Advisor]

Which, by the way, that's crazy.

[Co-host 2]

Wait, wait, what was that? The boyfriend family.

[Co-host 1]

She moved in with her boyfriend's family

[Host/Advisor]

after, and they thought the Mormons were crazy. But also it's like, that's such a weird position to be in too. To be like. I guess they're like, yeah, I guess we'll raise.

[Co-host 1]

Are crazy.

[Host/Advisor]

We'll raise our. Our son's girlfriend.

[Co-host 2]

And then she got to stay with that guy forever.

[Host/Advisor]

I guess they're going to fucking home.

[Co-host 1]

That is crazy. I remember one time my mom was like, real weird with me because I let my girlfriend at the time do fudgeing laundry at our house. And she was like, this is fucking weird. Why is she doing this?

[Host/Advisor]

Your mom really liked that girl, from what I remember.

[Co-host 1]

Yeah, there's a couple.

[Host/Advisor]

She really liked her. And by the way, so did I. And everyone she's ever met, but at least she was very beautiful.

[Co-host 1]

Hey, man.

[Co-host 2]

High school.

[Host/Advisor]

Hey, I guess, whatever. I couldn't get a girl to. But you know what? I think I could have if I went that low. I think we just had kind of

[Co-host 3]

a. I think it was dogs doing laundry.

[Host/Advisor]

I was. She had to clean her collar off. She had to clean her little hoodie with a tail. Cut out. Her little. Her four little boots for when it's too hot out outside and her feet hurt.

[Co-host 3]

Hilarious.

[Host/Advisor]

Anyway, elders. Elders, get the lint roller. We have too much of your girlfriend's hair on your shirt.

[Co-host 3]

She just said so much. Did your girlfriend eat six slices of pizza?

[Host/Advisor]

Oh, Ellis's girlfriend got into leftovers again. A whole sheet of lasagna. El, come on, El, put her. Look, I told you, if it happens again, she's got to put the shock collar back on.

[Co-host 1]

Yeah, well, hey, when you're 16, anyway.

[Host/Advisor]

No, no, listen, no dis. You know. Thank you, man. That was a great little rift. Let's get back to this girl's story for so long.

[Caller/Stavi Eldis]

Anyway, shortly after I moved in, I changed my address and these checks start showing up for me. It was just over $1,300. My boyfriend's mom, who was a lawyer, said that it was Social Security life insurance money from my birth dad or it Was either Social Security or, like life insurance, I can't remember. Committed suicide when I was a little older than, like one. And so I reached out to my birth mom about it, and she said that check should have been coming to me for a long time now. And my grandma had assured her that my aunt and uncle were keeping it in a college fund. For me, this money would be roughly 180 grand. So it's not like a money. So I go to the bank and I asked to see my records. They could only go seven years back, but it turns out that from as far back as I can see, the money was deposited every month and then immediately wire transferred to my aunt and uncle's account. Because they were authorized users on the account. I played them with my aunt and uncle and I texted and asked, hey, what is this check for? Hoping that they would say something like, oh, we have a whole fund for you, or something. Because I was just finishing up high school at this point and I was trying to get that money for college. Wishful thinking. My uncle said that they had used all of the money for my care, which is bullshit because I spend barely more than that for my bills every month as a full adult. Plus, I know, I now know that they also got money from the government on top of that every month for

[Host/Advisor]

being my legal pieces of shit.

[Caller/Stavi Eldis]

So at the time, I didn't call them on it because I didn't have all the facts. You were a kid terrified of confrontation.

[Host/Advisor]

Yeah.

[Caller/Stavi Eldis]

And I think some part of me just didn't want to lose them. But years have gone by. Now I'm 25, and I feel like I've processed my grief of losing them as a family. And. And I'm wondering if it's too late to say something, and if so, what do I say? Do I need to just let it be? Yeah, I guess that's everything. Thank you so much, dog. Bye.

[Host/Advisor]

I think you got to kill him.

[Co-host 3]

Yeah.

[Host/Advisor]

Yeah. Death with a hammer.

[Co-host 3]

Wow.

[Host/Advisor]

Wow. She's just talking about saying something, not going after them.

[Co-host 2]

Like legal action.

[Co-host 3]

Right.

[Commercial Announcer]

Like, what else?

[Host/Advisor]

So, I don't know. I mean, this. If they were her guardians, they're authorized. Yeah, I. Look, if you're just talking about saying something, these are pieces of shit.

[Co-host 3]

Right?

[Host/Advisor]

These people are fucking scum. And so that goes. That cuts two ways. One, you shouldn't feel bad about saying anything to them. These people are lower than low. I mean, look, I get they took you in. Your mom had a. What? Your birth mom had a fucked up thing, whatever. But they kicked you out of their house. They stole fucking money from you. They didn't even like. You know, they convinced themselves they did nothing wrong. They're. They're fucking pieces. Shit. You should be able to feel free to let the fucking Uzi spray on these motherfuckers. Don't even worry about their feelings. Whatever. Whatever. Say whatever you want. Now, the flip side of that is nothing you say will get through to the kind of scumbag that these people are.

[Co-host 2]

Yeah.

[Host/Advisor]

These are people that live in their own fucking world. You know what I mean? We all have. There's people in my family that are like this. I'm sure there's people in your fan. All of sahib's relatives think it's okay to use slave labor. Maddie, you know, you have an insane. You have insane people in your family.

[Co-host 2]

Just for the record, my family's kind of poor, so we don't have that many slaves.

[Host/Advisor]

But the ones they got, they work them to the bone. Because he's like, three.

[Co-host 2]

We got like one guy. He's like, not even that great, right?

[Host/Advisor]

Yeah, yeah, he's t. He's tired. He's tired and that's really hard because he's got to fucking get to work by clinging onto the top of the train. And that's tough to do with just one arm. But these people are pieces of shit, right?

[Co-host 3]

Yeah.

[Host/Advisor]

And you can say it for. This is for you. This is for your fucking. To get it off your chest. This is not. There's nothing to do with them. So whatever you feel like you need to say, say it. If you can get, you know, talk to a lawyer. It's probably too late. May. You know, maybe you can sue them. Do they even have anything to go after? Whatever. Talk to a lawyer, whatever. I would want to get back to these people any way that I could. 25 is still kind of young for someone with this tumultuous of a life where on some level, you still feel something for them, especially when her. You've not had. I don't know what's happened since, but, I mean, you're talking about a life with no stability. You know, you still. Some of their, you know, guilt bullshit probably still has its hooks in you. So, you know, this us telling you to let that shit go. They're fucking scumbags. They deserve everything bad. They deserve a bunch of bad shit to happen to them. Right? But you can what to say. You should. I mean, if just truly the truth, which is like, you know, you took me in, but at the same, it's like it's one thing to take me in, but you stole money from me. You never told me about it. You lied to me. You probably would have kept. You would have kept stealing money from me even you said it was for my care. You would have kept stealing money from me if I wasn't fucking there. How you behaved is despicable. You are selfish, bad people. And you know, I mean, just really let them fucking have it. I don't know what to tell you. I think you know, that's all you can really do is say like, the way you behaved is completely unacceptable. You are scumbags. Write down everything you want them to hear and fucking say it. And again, it's just for you. Whatever it is for you, whatever you want to get. Don't expect them to change their behavior. If anything, they're going to call you insane. They're going to. They're going to start doing lies you haven't even thought of. They're going to try and gaslight you in ways you didn't even see coming. And, and that's kind of fun. I love when an insane family member tries to. Because dude, they're create. They're very creative people.

[Co-host 3]

Yeah.

[Host/Advisor]

They'll make up a whole way you betrayed them that you didn't even think about.

[Co-host 3]

Yeah, they're going to bring stuff up.

[Host/Advisor]

They're going to bring stuff up that didn't even happen.

[Co-host 3]

Dude, you got to be ready for what they'll say.

[Host/Advisor]

So that's especially if you're, if you're not a big confrontation person. It might not. Maybe it's not worth your fucking time. You know what I mean? Like these people don't. Should not give you any more. You should not waste any more of your energy on these people. Is my overall.

[Co-host 3]

Unless saying something helps you.

[Host/Advisor]

Exactly. You should not. Yes, exactly. Now I do think standing up to the people that were scumbags to you were the reason that you probably. You say you have problems with confrontation. I bet that had a lot to do with growing up in what sounds like a semi abusive fucking situation. Semi. And we're bailing them out by semi because we don't know all the details. But you know, it's good for you to stand up for yourself for sure. So if you want to say it for that, say it for that. But if you also feel like you're not ready yet, that's okay too. This is fully up to you. You're not going to get any sense of justice out of this because there's. They took advantage of you that you're a child and they stole from you. Go talk to a lawyer, you know, hit up your, I guess, ex boyfriend's family.

[Co-host 3]

Is he out?

[Host/Advisor]

We don't know if she's still with him. That actually would be kind of. That would be kind of like old fashioned as hell if you're still with your boyfriend from when you were 16.

[Co-host 3]

Me, 18 to 25.

[Host/Advisor]

Yeah. That's crazy. But yeah, I mean, I don't know. That's. Oh, yeah.

[Co-host 3]

If he got with her through that.

[Host/Advisor]

Yeah.

[Co-host 3]

A lot of people stay together when they do something.

[Host/Advisor]

Traumatic trauma.

[Co-host 2]

Yeah, trauma, trauma.

[Host/Advisor]

Yeah, for sure.

[Co-host 3]

Yeah.

[Host/Advisor]

But yeah, that's what I was just like, you know, these. These people you completely. And that's tough when your own family is taking advantage of you. Then you're like, who the fuck? And I'm sure you have trust issues and all this stuff, but, you know, that's my advice. I don't know. You guys got anything else?

[Co-host 3]

Something you can do is sneak into their house and put broccoli in places they won't be able to find. And then it'll smell really bad and they'll go crazy.

[Host/Advisor]

Yeah, I would. Yes.

[Co-host 3]

Stuff to make them go crazy.

[Host/Advisor]

Yeah. I heard about like somebody put like a. Somebody like got cheated on or some shit, and they put a device that beeps at odd intervals in their walls somewhere they couldn't get to it.

[Co-host 3]

Yeah.

[Host/Advisor]

Drove them crazy. They deserve that.

[Co-host 3]

Do some crazy pranks.

[Host/Advisor]

Do bad to them. Make them feel like what in the Mormon thing means the devil's coming. Do whatever the Mormon. The Mormon Bible says the devil does to them. Make them feel like Satan is after them.

[Co-host 3]

Yeah, yeah. Scary.

[Host/Advisor]

Whatever weird version of Satan that what's his face came up with.

[Co-host 3]

Like this. If this was a movie, she'd be scaring them. Yeah, they'd be like running, you know?

[Host/Advisor]

Yeah. But then they'd flip it on her. They'd know it then. They're actually satanic for real.

[Co-host 3]

Right?

[Co-host 1]

Whoa.

[Co-host 3]

Right?

[Host/Advisor]

That's a good movie, dude.

[Co-host 1]

Normally wouldn't suggest this, but do they have a dog? Torture and kill their dog. Put up

[Co-host 3]

eldest was one of the kids.

[Host/Advisor]

Torture and kill the dog.

[Co-host 1]

All right, maybe.

[Co-host 2]

No, that's the classic. Take it out on the dog. Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah.

[Co-host 1]

This is a scenario where I would be like, if they have a dearly loved pet.

[Host/Advisor]

No. Maybe that's the absolute wrong way to look as the man who cares about animals the least. That's crazy.

[Co-host 3]

Yeah.

[Host/Advisor]

Because now, because the dog is actually

[Co-host 3]

an innocent here, the dog Is not like, oh, let's take their money.

[Co-host 2]

Yeah, but what, but like what kind of animal is it?

[Co-host 3]

Right?

[Co-host 2]

If it's like a lizard.

[Host/Advisor]

Yeah, I just think right, like you

[Co-host 3]

gotta do morning, like cut those.

[Co-host 2]

Yeah, yeah, yeah.

[Host/Advisor]

Well that's why.

[Co-host 1]

That's why a dog would just hit way harder than like a. Like a hamster or something.

[Host/Advisor]

You know, it would. But the problem is you want to do them harm directly. You don't want them because you're really doing more harm to the dog than. Yeah, yeah, they're sad you killed the dog. Now if you want to kill if elders, you're the kind of freak that wants to kill some. Kill some mice, put it in their walls, please. Yeah, again, kind of the broccoli thing, but more disgusting.

[Co-host 3]

Yeah, yeah, do some shit. Prank call them. Listen, have Jim Florence prank calling or something. Get a little crazy going.

[Host/Advisor]

You guys ever listen to Black Sabbath? Why isn't Black Sabbath doing the halftime show at the Super Bowl? Really good shout out to Jim. I opened for him once in Tampa and side splitters. It was one of the greatest experiences of my life. Yeah, he's a great. He's a great hang. And then I also had to stay in the Tampa side splitters condo, which is one of the most disgusting places I've ever.

[Co-host 3]

Do you stay with him?

[Host/Advisor]

No, he got to be in the Holiday Inn, which was the headliners hotels.

[Co-host 3]

The Holiday Inn hilarious club.

[Host/Advisor]

I mean the club's awesome, but man, back in the day, before the new people bought it, it was a piece of shit. Yeah, it was the kind of. Joe List has a story about staying in that condo. And he was wearing socks. And his socks got dirtier on the carpet than when they took them off.

[Co-host 3]

Gross.

[Host/Advisor]

It was fucking disgusting.

[Co-host 3]

It's fucking nasty.

[Host/Advisor]

It was. And there was not near anything anyway, whatever.

[Co-host 3]

Isolated.

[Host/Advisor]

Yeah, whatever. Do some pranks. I mean, if you really want to be bad. Do they have like antique furniture? Release bedbugs in there?

[Co-host 3]

Yeah.

[Host/Advisor]

Put on a. Fucking. Put on a. Put on a hazmat suit.

[Co-host 3]

Yep.

[Host/Advisor]

Get some bed bugs and then release them in there and release them in their home. That actually, that'll actually.

[Co-host 2]

Cause that will.

[Host/Advisor]

That will make you go insane.

[Co-host 3]

Yeah.

[Host/Advisor]

And that's about equal to a hundred. Honestly, you could do them a hundred thousand dollars worth of damage. Bedbugs.

[Co-host 3]

Yeah.

[Host/Advisor]

Because sometimes you can't fix that.

[Co-host 2]

They have to like. They have to like gas.

[Host/Advisor]

You'd have to fumigate the whole thing,

[Co-host 3]

like tent over the house.

[Host/Advisor]

But if you don't it in time It'll spread everywhere. Bedbugs are anyway. They deserve it. They're assholes. Sorry that happened to you. That's fucking insane. And you know why they. You know why they even know they're lying? Because they told her mom, who was one of their siblings, that they were putting it in a college fund. Yeah. Yeah, they knew their pieces. So them release bedbugs into their home, put it in their special Mormon underwear that covers their dick.

[Co-host 3]

Put it on. Yeah,

[Host/Advisor]

start a call. But in the meantime, Elvis, your homework while we listen to the call is find out why Mormons wear that special weird underwear.

[Co-host 3]

What is it like?

[Host/Advisor]

I don't know, it's like. It's just like. I don't know, some kind of weird. It almost looks like boxer, like doubloon, like kind of pirate pant, like Under Armour type shit.

[Co-host 3]

Okay, got it.

[Co-host 1]

What?

[Co-host 3]

It holds a dick in or.

[Host/Advisor]

I think it holds so you don't fuck. No, I just think it's some kind of. They think it has magical properties. I mean, these people are fucking. No disrespect is all religions are pretty stupid. But the newer it. If it's an old religion, at least you can lie to yourself and think that like, oh yeah, this. God put this here for thousands. Mormonism is one guy made up a bunch of. And you can tell he lied. Like he. He mistranslated from Egyptian that at the time no one could call him on.

[Co-host 3]

Yeah.

[Host/Advisor]

And then they're like this doesn't say this at all scam. Like he's clearly. If you're a Mormon, I mean no disrespect or Scientologist. For some reason Mormon is the only one stupider and more and less new. Or Scientologist is the only one stupid than Mormon. But come on, why you? I mean, and by the way, on Easter we also think that about Christianity, about everything, you know, except Islam. That's the one true one we got. We want go Iran, we're rooting for you. Keep that straight, close brother Mama keep shooting us down. Take those fucking rifles, knock those drones right out of the sky. I'm rooting for you. For real. Oh, did you do some research, elders?

[Co-host 1]

Yes, the temple garments is what they're temple garments. They're a two piece thing. A top and a knee length bottom.

[Host/Advisor]

Knee length.

[Co-host 1]

And they are a physical, private reminder of promises made in the temple and serve as a symbol of commitment to Jesus Christ.

[Co-host 3]

So they wear those? You guys wear those, like under their pants every day?

[Co-host 1]

Yeah. Initiated members are expected to wear them throughout Their lives. Removing them only for activities like showering or swimmin.

[Host/Advisor]

What so they have to wear extra underwear to like hide their from everybody to remind them that they promised that to one. Yeah, to God or whatever.

[Co-host 3]

The girls wearing it.

[Host/Advisor]

Everybody wears it. Everybody wears it. But you cover your or your

[Co-host 3]

all

[Co-host 1]

underwear does cover or.

[Host/Advisor]

But you double cover it. No, I thought it counts.

[Co-host 2]

I think they replaced it with underwear. It's expensive.

[Co-host 1]

It's a two piece but you don't put it over underwear.

[Host/Advisor]

Oh you wear it. Oh it's just.

[Co-host 2]

You just wear it as underwear.

[Host/Advisor]

But you have to wear a fucking top. You know what this is? This is vestigial of like it's how all or how like specific sex of like the what we think of as orthodox Jews with the way they dress. That was just a cool way to dress back then. Yeah, these are just fucking pioneer underwear. Like he didn't even make this up. This is just what fucking. If you watch Deadwood people are wearing shit like this.

[Co-host 3]

Yeah man.

[Host/Advisor]

Fuck more. Anyway, whatever. Mormons are nice people.

[Co-host 1]

As magic underwear is considered derogatory.

[Host/Advisor]

I don't give a fuck. By members.

[Co-host 2]

That's a slur actually.

[Host/Advisor]

I don't care. No, look, sorry. Shout out to. Let me say this. Shout out to ex Mormon girls now

[Co-host 3]

that Mormons are pretty hot.

[Host/Advisor]

They are. Honestly I don't know what they got going there but.

[Co-host 3]

Yeah, something extraterrestrial.

[Host/Advisor]

That's kind of the only blonde. I. I'm not a big blondes guy but something about an ex Mormon that's like little tan, nothing wrong with that.

[Co-host 2]

So it's like you're able. Like you're rebellious

[Host/Advisor]

also.

[Co-host 2]

You're like rebellious.

[Host/Advisor]

Yeah, yeah. They're rebe for sure.

[Co-host 3]

Yeah.

[Host/Advisor]

And they're pent up, bro. Yeah, they're doing.

[Co-host 1]

A lot of them were abused too.

[Host/Advisor]

Really not. Okay. Let's kill a dog.

[Co-host 2]

They're abused. I like that too. My favorite part.

[Host/Advisor]

Let's kill a dog. Let's children. I mean you're really. Let's not be able to Google the difference between Catholicism and orthodox Christianity. It's an hour and a half into the episode. We still haven't gotten a follow up there.

[Co-host 3]

No idea.

[Host/Advisor]

Next question.

[Co-host 1]

We have another question.

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