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This week, Stay Tuned listeners can hear a full episode of Preet Bharara and Joyce Vance’s weekly Insider podcast. While Insider episodes are typically available only to subscribers, we’re unlocking this one for everyone. To listen to future episodes, and get 25% off the Insider membership in honor of America’s 250th anniversary, head to staytuned.substack.com/250. In this episode, Preet and Joyce are joined by NYU Law professor and co-host of the Strict Scrutiny podcast Melissa Murray to break down some of the Supreme Court’s most consequential decisions from their latest term: – Trump v. Barbara, where the Court struck down President Trump’s executive order restricting birthright citizenship; – National Republican Senatorial Committee v. Federal Election Commission, where the Court struck down a federal law limiting the amount of money political parties can spend on a political candidate; – Trump v. Cook, where the Court prevented Trump from firing Fed Chair Lisa Cook; – Trump v. Slaughter, where the Court allowed Trump to fire the commissioner of the Federal Trade Commission; – Watson v. RNC, where the Court ruled that mail-in ballots that arrive a few days after Election Day can be counted; and – West Virginia v. B.P.J., where the Court upheld state bans on transgender athletes from women’s and girls’ school sports teams. This conversation was recorded on Tuesday, June 30. Special thanks to the Aspen Ideas Festival, where Melissa Murray recorded the podcast. Shop Stay Tuned merch and featured books by our guests in our Amazon storefront. Have a question for Preet? Ask @PreetBharara on BlueSky, or Twitter with the hashtag #AskPreet. Email us at staytuned@cafe.com, or call 833-997-7338 to leave a voicemail. Stay Tuned with Preet is brought to you by CAFE and the Vox Media Podcast Network. Learn more about your ad choices. Visit podcastchoices.com/adchoices

On this week’s Insider podcast, Joyce Vance speaks with Leah Litman while Preet is out. Litman is a professor at the University of Michigan Law School and co-host of the Strict Scrutiny podcast. In this excerpt from the show, they discuss the central theme of this Supreme Court term: how the Court’s conservative majority is reshaping the balance of power between the branches of government, away from Congress and towards the judiciary and the executive. In the full episode, they cover the Court’s major decisions on guns, immigration, and E. Jean Carroll’s defamation case against President Trump. To support the show and gain access to full Insider episodes, become a member. For a limited time, get 25% off an annual membership on Substack: staytuned.substack.com/250. CAFE Insiders click HERE to listen to the full analysis. Subscribe to our YouTube channel. This podcast is brought to you by CAFE and Vox Media Podcast Network. Executive Producer: Tamara Sepper; Supervising Producer: Jake Kaplan; Associate Producer: Claudia Hernández; Senior Audio Producer: Matthew Billy; CAFE Team: Nat Weiner, Jennifer Indig, and Liana Greenway. Learn more about your ad choices. Visit podcastchoices.com/adchoices

What is the relevance of the Declaration of Independence today? Danielle Allen is a political philosopher and a professor at Harvard University. Mary Bilder is a historian of the American Founding Era and a professor at Boston College Law School. They join Preet for a conversation about America’s 250th anniversary and to reflect on the Declaration of Independence: what it really said, what it left out, and why we continue to debate its words so many years later. Then, Preet answers listener questions about a swatting incident targeting Pete Buttigieg and his family. Plus, the latest on President Trump’s efforts to curb mail-in voting. In the bonus for Insiders, Preet, Allen, and Bilder discuss the Trump administration’s impact on civic education. Join the Insider community for access to bonus content from Stay Tuned and weekly episodes of the Insider podcast hosted by Preet and Joyce Vance. For a limited time, we’re offering 25% off the Insider membership, in honor of America’s 250th anniversary. To claim the discount and become a member, visit staytuned.substack.com/250. Thank you for supporting our work. Show notes and a transcript of the episode are available on our website. Watch this episode on our Youtube channel. Shop Stay Tuned merch and featured books by our guests in our Amazon storefront. Have a question for Preet? Ask @PreetBharara on BlueSky, or Twitter with the hashtag #AskPreet. Email us at staytuned@cafe.com, or call 833-997-7338 to leave a voicemail. Stay Tuned with Preet is brought to you by CAFE and the Vox Media Podcast Network. Learn more about your ad choices. Visit podcastchoices.com/adchoices

Joanne Freeman is a historian, author, and renowned professor at Yale, where she specializes in early American politics and political culture. She joins Preet ahead of the 250th anniversary of America’s founding to discuss the continued relevance of the Declaration of Independence, the fragility of democracy, and why the Founders were so worried about demagogues, civic virtue, and the peaceful transfer of power. Then, Preet answers listener questions about whether states can require ICE agents to identify themselves, and the recent court decision requiring that Trump’s name be removed from the Kennedy Center. In the bonus for Insiders, Preet and Freeman discuss President George Washington’s remarkable and prescient decision to relinquish power. Join the Insider community for access to bonus content from Stay Tuned and weekly episodes of the Insider podcast hosted by Preet and Joyce Vance. For a limited time, we’re offering 25% off the Insider membership, in honor of America’s 250th anniversary. To claim the discount and become a member, visit staytuned.substack.com/250. Thank you for supporting our work. Show notes and a transcript of the episode are available on our website. You can now watch this episode! Head to CAFE’s Youtube channel and subscribe. Shop Stay Tuned merch and featured books by our guests in our Amazon storefront. Have a question for Preet? Ask @PreetBharara on BlueSky, or Twitter with the hashtag #AskPreet. Email us at staytuned@cafe.com, or call 833-997-7338 to leave a voicemail. Stay Tuned with Preet is brought to you by CAFE and the Vox Media Podcast Network. Learn more about your ad choices. Visit podcastchoices.com/adchoices

As the Supreme Court term nears its end, the justices are releasing some of the most highly anticipated decisions. In this excerpt from the Insider podcast, Supreme Court expert Steve Vladeck joins Preet Bharara and Joyce Vance to discuss Landor v. Louisiana Department of Corrections, a case with implications for religious freedoms and the ability of ordinary Americans to vindicate their rights in court. Vladeck is also a professor at Georgetown University Law School and the author of the Substack newsletter One First. In the full episode, they cover U.S. v. Hemani, a gun possession case, and Kian v. Florida, a case about six-person juries. Plus, which upcoming decisions should we be paying the most attention to? To support the show and gain access to full Insider episodes, become a member. For a limited time, get 25% off an annual membership on Substack: staytuned.substack.com/250. CAFE Insiders click HERE to listen to the full analysis. Subscribe to our YouTube channel. This podcast is brought to you by CAFE and Vox Media Podcast Network. Executive Producer: Tamara Sepper; Supervising Producer: Jake Kaplan; Associate Producer: Claudia Hernández; Senior Audio Producer: Matthew Billy; CAFE Team: Celine Rohr, Nat Weiner, Jennifer Indig, and Liana Greenway. Learn more about your ad choices. Visit podcastchoices.com/adchoices

Devlin Barrett is a reporter for The New York Times, where he has covered the Justice Department and the FBI for over 20 years. He joins Preet to discuss his new book, The Department of Revenge: How Trump Took Control of American Justice. Barrett takes us inside the DOJ, where morale remains strained, and concerns are growing about the influence of Trump loyalists. He also unpacks Trump’s long-running fixation on former FBI Director Jim Comey and assesses Todd Blanche’s chances at being confirmed by the Senate as the permanent Attorney General. Then, Preet shares his thoughts on Hunter Biden’s emergence as a prolific and unusually candid public voice. In the bonus for Insiders, Preet and Barrett discuss why so many Justice Department employees are willing to risk their careers to uphold ethical standards and resist pressure from Trump. Join the Insider community for access to bonus content from Stay Tuned and weekly episodes of the Insider podcast hosted by Preet and Joyce Vance. Head to cafe.com/insider or staytuned.substack.com to sign up. Thank you for supporting our work. Show notes and a transcript of the episode are available on our website. You can now watch this episode! Head to CAFE’s Youtube channel and subscribe. Shop Stay Tuned merch and featured books by our guests in our Amazon storefront. Have a question for Preet? Ask @PreetBharara on BlueSky, or Twitter with the hashtag #AskPreet. Email us at staytuned@cafe.com, or call 833-997-7338 to leave a voicemail. Stay Tuned with Preet is brought to you by CAFE and the Vox Media Podcast Network. Learn more about your ad choices. Visit podcastchoices.com/adchoices

President Trump nominated Manhattan U.S. Attorney Jay Clayton to be the new Director of National Intelligence after facing bipartisan backlash over his initial pick of Federal Housing Finance Agency Director Bill Pulte. In this excerpt from the Insider podcast, Preet Bharara and Joyce Vance discuss Clayton’s nomination, his qualifications, and how lawmakers have responded to Trump’s pivot. In the full episode, they cover the latest legal challenges to Trump’s $1.776 billion “anti-weaponization” fund. Plus, the Supreme Court decision ruling federal prosecutors can only try a defendant in the district where the alleged offense occurred. To support the show and gain access to full Insider episodes, become a member at cafe.com/insider or staytuned.substack.com/subscribe. CAFE Insiders click HERE to listen to the full analysis. Subscribe to our YouTube channel. This podcast is brought to you by CAFE and Vox Media Podcast Network. Executive Producer: Tamara Sepper; Supervising Producer: Jake Kaplan; Associate Producer: Claudia Hernández; Senior Audio Producer: Matthew Billy; CAFE Team: Celine Rohr, Nat Weiner, Jennifer Indig, and Liana Greenway. Learn more about your ad choices. Visit podcastchoices.com/adchoices

Atul Gawande is a surgeon, a best-selling author, and a longtime contributor to The New Yorker. He also served as the Assistant Administrator for Global Health at USAID under President Biden. He joins Preet to discuss new medical breakthroughs from cancer to GLP-1s, and the crisis of faith in our healthcare establishment. Then, Preet answers listener questions about whether Trump’s DOJ Anti-Weaponization Fund is really dead. He also shares his thoughts on President Trump’s acting Director of National Intelligence Bill Pulte and Hunter Biden’s newly revived X account. In the bonus for Insiders, Preet and Gawande discuss affordability and the original sin of our healthcare system. Join the Insider community for access to bonus content from Stay Tuned and weekly episodes of the Insider podcast hosted by Preet and Joyce Vance. Head to cafe.com/insider to sign up. Thank you for supporting our work. Show notes and a transcript of the episode are available on our website. You can now watch this episode! Head to CAFE’s Youtube channel and subscribe. Shop Stay Tuned merch and featured books by our guests in our Amazon storefront. Have a question for Preet? Ask @PreetBharara on BlueSky, or Twitter with the hashtag #AskPreet. Email us at staytuned@cafe.com, or call 833-997-7338 to leave a voicemail. Stay Tuned with Preet is brought to you by CAFE and the Vox Media Podcast Network. Learn more about your ad choices. Visit podcastchoices.com/adchoices

The House of Representatives passed a bipartisan resolution halting U.S. military action against Iran. In this excerpt from the Insider podcast, Ben Wittes joins Preet Bharara and Joyce Vance to discuss its legal and political significance. Wittes is the co-founder and editor-in-chief of Lawfare and a senior fellow at the Brookings Institution. In the full episode, they cover: – A reported plea deal between the Justice Department and President Trump’s former national security advisor John Bolton; – Trump’s appointment of Bill Pulte as Acting Director of National Intelligence; and – Trump’s appointment of Todd Blanche as Attorney General. To support the show and gain access to full Insider episodes, become a member at cafe.com/insider or staytuned.substack.com/subscribe. CAFE Insiders click HERE to listen to the full analysis. Subscribe to our YouTube channel. This podcast is brought to you by CAFE and Vox Media Podcast Network. Executive Producer: Tamara Sepper; Supervising Producer: Jake Kaplan; Associate Producer: Claudia Hernández; Senior Audio Producer: Matthew Billy; CAFE Team: Celine Rohr, Nat Weiner, Jennifer Indig, and Liana Greenway. Learn more about your ad choices. Visit podcastchoices.com/adchoices

Barb McQuade is a former U.S. Attorney, MS NOW legal analyst, law professor, and author of The Fix: Saving America from the Corruption of a Mob-Style Government. In this live episode taped at the 92NY in New York City, Barb joins Preet to discuss President Trump’s mob-style tactics, the $1.8 billion “slush fund” for January 6 defendants, threats to the rule of law, and how Americans can reclaim democratic accountability. Then, Preet answers listener questions about lawsuits challenging President Trump’s slush fund, whether acting officials can be impeached, and a court ruling barring arrests from being made in New York City immigration courts. In the bonus for Insiders, Preet and McQuade discuss restoring public faith in the Justice Department, the most important lesson for law students, and whether RICO is a viable legal tool for holding the Trump administration accountable. Join the Insider community for access to bonus content from Stay Tuned and weekly episodes of the Insider podcast hosted by Preet and Joyce Vance. Head to cafe.com/insider to sign up. Thank you for supporting our work. Show notes and a transcript of the episode are available on our website. You can now watch this episode! Head to CAFE’s Youtube channel and subscribe. Shop Stay Tuned merch and featured books by our guests in our Amazon storefront. Have a question for Preet? Ask @PreetBharara on BlueSky, or Twitter with the hashtag #AskPreet. Email us at staytuned@cafe.com, or call 833-997-7338 to leave a voicemail. Stay Tuned with Preet is brought to you by CAFE and the Vox Media Podcast Network. Learn more about your ad choices. Visit podcastchoices.com/adchoices