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On this week’s Insider podcast, Preet Bharara and Joyce Vance are joined by lawyer and legal analyst Katie Phang. They discuss Phang’s lawsuit against acting Attorney General Todd Blanche, which seeks to force the Justice Department to comply with the Epstein Files Transparency Act. Listen to an excerpt from the conversation.

In the full episode, they cover Blanche’s confirmation hearing before the Senate. Plus, Joyce and Katie discuss the fallout from President Trump’s speech about alleged fraud in the 2020 election and Katie’s approach to journalism in the Trump era.

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