In an excerpt from this week’s Insider episode, Preet Bharara and Joyce Vance break down President Donald Trump’s push to unseal grand jury testimony from the Jeffrey Epstein case following weeks of backlash from Trump’s supporters.

In the full episode, Preet and Joyce discuss Trump’s defamation lawsuit against the Wall Street Journal over a report on Epstein’s birthday letters, including one reportedly bearing Trump’s signature, and the firing of SDNY prosecutor Maurene Comey, who handled the Epstein prosecution.

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