AGAIN: Left-wing Celebs Prove They HATE America | Guest: Hogan Gidley | 5/29/26

Summary

Steve Deace Show – May 29, 2026

Episode: AGAIN: Left-wing Celebs Prove They HATE America | Guest: Hogan Gidley

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Overview

In this episode, Steve Deace is joined by frequent contributors Todd Erzin and Aaron McIntyre as well as guest Hogan Gidley (former Trump Deputy Press Secretary and current Senior Advisor to Speaker Mike Johnson). The show explores the perceived cultural and moral decline of America, focusing on a viral montage showcasing left-wing figures, the collapse of the America 250 performers lineup, and the country's struggles with immigration and cultural cohesion. The discussion is characterized by Deace’s signature blend of principled conservatism and snark, with robust debate about faith, the left's influence, and the future of the country.

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Key Discussion Points & Insights

1. "Bleep, Lord Nefarious Says" Montage & Reaction

• Segment Start: 03:56
• Aaron McIntyre presents a montage contrasting leftist social commentary (including a Satanic Temple invocation, BLM vs. Jan 6 comparisons, confusion over gender and pregnancy, and religious pluralism) with conservative Christian values.
• The panel interprets the clips as evidence of cultural decadence and deepening spiritual and ideological divides in America:
  • Hogan Gidley: Focuses on Sunny Hostin's BLM/Jan 6 comparisons: “That is just factually wrong. $4 billion of property damage, 20 some odd people died, several cops were shot…that’s just provably false.” (09:48)
  • Todd Erzin: Laments the absence and passivity of church and male leadership: “The most disgusting thing I saw was the pastors and the men who allowed all of that to happen.” (10:52)
  • Steve Deace: Finds the montage “strangely empowering,” seeing it as clarifying lines in a culture war: “Thanks for putting everybody on the record and let's get to work now that everybody knows where everybody stands.” (12:13)
  • Aaron McIntyre: Calls the Satanist in the clip “a total loser” who nonetheless reflects more dangerous ideological trends; reframes accusations that Christians are "hateful," suggesting real hate would be allowing cultural erosion in one's own community. (14:20)

Notable Quotes:

• Aaron McIntyre: “How hateful must you be to allow this to go on in your own community?” (15:25)
• Steve Deace: “Results are up to God; faithfulness is up to us and obedience up to us.” (16:16)

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2. America 250th Performers Backlash & the Problem of Right-Wing Culture

• Segment Start: 17:58
• The show pivots to discuss the exodus of major performers from the America 250 celebration after public backlash, interpreting the episode as emblematic of celebrity and left-leaning cultural dominance.
  • Steve Deace: Suggests conservatives should abandon chasing mainstream pop culture validation and instead cultivate their own culture and stars: “The occasion is its own platform. The presidency is its own platform. Get our own people, put them up there.” (20:40)
  • Todd Erzin: Observes that the right lacks organic cultural machinery: “Most of the culture that the right wing likes is the left wing.” (21:36)
  • Hogan Gidley: Notes that secular leftists’ antipathy for America underlies the resistance: “So many in the zeitgeist here hate America. They think we're the cause of the world's problems.” (23:53)
  • Aaron McIntyre: Points out how even in the vast “right America,” almost no world-class patriotic fine art or performers exist, citing the Mormon Tabernacle Choir as the only example: “In the vastness of right America, I've got one. The Mormon Tabernacle Choir.” (26:10)
  • Steve Deace: Recommends a new lineup based on Kennedy Center Honorees from the Trump years – George Strait, Gloria Gaynor, Michael Crawford, KISS – as proof better choices are possible. (27:16)

Notable Quotes:

• Steve Deace: “We are a nation divorced... Let’s just put our own damn event on and screw them.” (24:25)
• Hogan Gidley: “Point being, there’s a whole subculture here that they don’t even recognize as being worth anything. It’s the deplorables, it’s the irredeemables…” (22:45)
• Aaron McIntyre: “Who is a right-wing donor who’s going to say, 'the creation of good, fine culture is the return on the investment'?” (27:02)
• Aaron McIntyre: “Wall Street has circuit breakers to prevent panic selling…once you got down the list to Milli Vanilli, maybe a circuit breaker should have been triggered.” (29:55)
• Todd Erzin: “If this isn’t better [than the original list], let me give you the list before we run out of time…” (27:16, humorously conceding Deace’s cloud.)

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3. Memorial Day, Islam, and Cultural Assimilation

• Segment Start: 31:48
• Panel discusses the prominence of a hijab-wearing Miss Wayne County in Michigan’s Memorial Day parade, using her statements about the “melting pot” to explore assimilation, immigration, and the future of American identity.
  • Aaron McIntyre: Argues that Islamic and American cultures are incompatible: “The culture of Islam is strong. It’s not a good culture either. We’re going to have to combat that with a strong and good culture.” (35:13)
  • Steve Deace: Raises pointed questions about the wisdom of large-scale Muslim immigration and assimilation: "Ultimately she has to make a decision, am I an American or a Muslim? Because the worldviews are not compatible.” (40:35)
  • Hogan Gidley: Suggests a “culture clash is going to come to a head sooner rather than later,” arguing that peacemaking (not peacekeeping) requires defending American principles. (37:14)
  • Exit Question: “What’s the appropriate amount of Muslims America should import?” Deace: “Given the amount we've imported, the answer at this point in time is probably zero.” (42:10)

Notable Quotes:

• Todd Erzin: “She never has to make that decision because we won't make it ourselves. We won't make the decision to be Americans.” (41:13)
• Aaron McIntyre: “Strong versus weak cultures: the side that wants to be left alone is always going to be beaten by the side who wants to win.” (77:18)

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4. Audience Feedback & Broader Cultural Commentary

• Segment Start: 54:17 & 79:46
• Behind-the-scenes origin stories: The core team shares their backstories and how they came to work with Steve Deace, emphasizing loyalty, the value of internal challenge, and shared worldview formation.
• Listener Letters: An extended discussion features feedback from a North Dakota listener facing community backlash after their daughter publicly criticized the compatibility of Sharia law and American values.
  • Deace and co. stress the right (and necessity) of Americans to critically assess immigration’s impact: “Any immigration transaction should begin with…How does it benefit the people here?”
• The “predator migration” problem: Comparing the movement of abusers in the Catholic Church to the lapses in America’s education system, the hosts make the case for a lack of cultural “guardrails” in a society that sacrifices the welfare of children for the feelings and desires of adults.
• Political strategy: Deace and team “war game” how JD Vance should handle his association with Tucker Carlson, concluding: the 2028 GOP primary is essentially for an audience of one—Donald Trump; the trick is signaling loyalty without appearing desperate.

Notable Quotes:

• Steve Deace: “You just cannot allow yourself to be name-called out of a civilization.” (71:21)
• Todd Erzin: “What we used to call guardrails? Men.” (84:12)
• Steve Deace: “You simply can't trust people who believe in abortion to care about your kids.” (84:15)
• Aaron McIntyre: “Just a general word about imperfect people in an imperfect world: if you don’t accept that, you’re going to end up with something akin to Trump derangement syndrome.” (95:58)

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Memorable Moments & Humor

• On our own comedians:
  "Yeah, this is going to be a partisan event because you guys hate America anyway. Let’s just be honest...Put that show on and not be unevenly yoked.” (22:24, Deace)
• Milli Vanilli as cultural punchline:
  “I didn’t know Milli Vanilli was still alive…A lot of has beens and a lot of never weres…” (17:58, Deace)

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Timestamps for Important Segments

• Montage & Response – “Bleep, Lord Nefarious Says”: 03:56 – 17:38
• America 250 Cancelled Performers & Right-Wing Culture: 17:58 – 30:28
• Hijab at Memorial Day / Islam & Assimilation: 31:48 – 47:57
• Listener Feedback: North Dakota & Immigration/Cultural Confidence: 54:17 – 77:49
• Viewer Letter: Predators in the System & Guardrails: 79:47 – 84:15
• Political Strategy - JD Vance & Trump: 84:15 – 96:24

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Overall Tone & Final Thoughts

The episode is spirited, pointedly skeptical of left-leaning cultural trends, and filled with gallows humor and snark. Deace and his panel deride the right's failure to form its own culture, lament the passivity of Christian leaders, and argue for a more assertive, unapologetic defense of traditional American (and Christian) values. While often bleak in outlook, moments of humor and camaraderie underscore the hosts’ belief in the fight’s worth.

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Key Quote to Sum Up the Episode

“You just cannot allow yourself to be name-called out of a civilization. … The side that wants to be left alone is always going to be beaten by the side who wants to win.”
— Steve Deace & Aaron McIntyre (71:21, 77:18)

Transcript

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[D]

Good to see you, Steve. Doing really well.

[A]

And then, of course, we have Todd, so there's that. Nothing special. How are you talking? There you go. Let's get to. Oh, and then Aaron, who without him, none of us would be here right now. So thank you to Aaron for that. Let's get to it. Your weekly look at the week that was begins as it always does, with issue one, bleep. Lord Nefarious says,

[E]

My name is Aaron Ra. I'm with the Satanic Temple. This invocation today was inspired by the seven tenets, or ethical principles of the Satanic Temple, an atheistic organization that believes in compassion, empathy, justice, autonomy, freedom of speech, scientifically based beliefs, accountability, and wisdom. Let us begin.

[C]

And for buildings that have suffered chronic neglect, we will work to transfer ownership to responsible stewards, stewards that include community land trusts, nonprofits.

[E]

Let us never bow our heads or bend the knee in obeisance to any faith from the past that is based on ignorant, bigoted savagery.

[C]

I just think we need to make it clear that there can be no comparison between the Black Lives Matter movement and what we saw on January 6. I just want to make that clear. There were very limited destruction of property and violence during the uprising.

[E]

Let us not look back with reverence to dark times of future fearful minds unenlightened by modern scientific knowledge, but move forward with critical thinking, the only way to determine actual factual truth.

[A]

I'm very confused.

[C]

A biological male can't become pregnant, but the grounds of pregnancy includes potential pregnancy as well as pregnancy.

[A]

But if they can't become pregnant, how

[C]

can you then become potentially pregnant?

[A]

It's about the unlawful treatment by the employer. If someone is treated unfairly on the

[C]

basis of pregnancy or potential pregnancy, then

[A]

that is unlawful discrimination on the basis of pregnancy.

[E]

Let us not fear the tree of knowledge, but extend our grasp and devour its fruit. Let us make rational decisions rather than imposing outdated authoritarian religious doctrine with varied interpretations, some more vile than others.

[B]

You said God is non binary.

[A]

What did you mean by that? But what it means is that God can't be defined by human categories. The Apostle Paul, in his letter to the Galatians, says that in Christ there is neither male nor female.

[E]

Let us cast out harmful ideas that threaten individual autonomy and our collective rights to life, liberty, and the pursuit of happiness, which must necessarily include free thought and freedom of expression, especially of our very identity.

[C]

When he's on a team that's 55% to 60% the NFL is that many people, that much percentage of black people, that that is just the definition of stupidity and racist.

[E]

Let us bravely face the truth rather than hide behind comforting delusion. Because regardless whether a supreme being really exists, history will be our judge.

[A]

Bismillahirrahmanirrahim. We turn to you in gratitude and remembrance, O Lord. Remind us that the history of Islam in America is not a story that began in 1965, nor one that arrived

[B]

upon distant shores in the 20th century.

[A]

It is woven into the very tapestry of this nation.

[E]

So let us embrace those among us who understand that morality, compassion, and service to others do not require devotion to any faith of ancient doctrine.

[B]

And so the other situation is there's people like this.

[A]

You are a protester who's been out

[C]

here and you have a dirty mouth,

[E]

but okay, finally, let us trust in ourselves and others working with us to know what is best for us and our families and not force conformity to mistaken beliefs of the past.

[A]

I trust Texas women to make decisions about their own bodies, to shape their own destinies in consultation with their family members, their doctors, their faith leaders. I don't believe that's a place for government. I don't believe it's a place for politicians that don't believe it's a place for the state. And that is. That's a belief I hold not despite my faith, but because of my faith.

[E]

Hail Satan.

[A]

That'll preach, as they say down south, that'll preach right there. I mean, that is one of the most devastatingly effective montages, Aaron, I think you've ever put together. And this, I mean, this thing, I mean, this thing is a banger pretty much every week. But the way that you constructed at this time, and maybe again, I'm still on this, you know, historic high after coming back from this heritage tour in D.C. that you were talking about, Todd, so maybe I've still got a little gleam in the eye, but for whatever Reason I was not demoralized after watching that. I thought that you did a very effective job of pinpointing exactly. And translating exactly what this means and what we're up against. And if anything, I. I kind of felt more empowered watching that. And let's find out what the panel thinks. Hogan is the guest. You get to start first. What was the most disgusting thing you just saw and why?

[D]

I hate when you do this because you play so many clips that are so disgusting. They're all on equal footing of disgustingness. But I come here, Steve, so I don't have to watch the View or listen to the View and dang it, you guys put a view clip in there. And so for whatever reason, those tend to rise to the top to me, just because they're part of the culture so much more than this saint that's wearing the horns and all that. And by the way, I'm old enough to remember when wearing a horn hat was problematic. I guess it's okay now for the left and these Satanists. I didn't like her saying that the black lives matter was I guess not as violent. Whatever the phrase she used compared to

[A]

January 6th wasn't as much property destroyed, I think is what she said, which

[D]

is just factually wrong. What was it? Around $4 billion of property damage. At least 20 some odd people died, Several cops were shot, they were targeted, Federal buildings burned. Yeah, that's just provably false. That's just very easy to show.

[A]

Isn't true.

[D]

So that while I guess there are other things that just grieve my heart more. The Satanist for example, and some of the others, that one just makes my blood boil because it's very easy to disprove.

[A]

Could we, gentlemen, could we do a. That is just factually untrue on Sunny hosting every single day. Like literally every single day. Could we do that every day? Thoughts?

[B]

We probably could. We could also remind her, I think she was on that show finding your roots or whatever where she discovered that she is a descendant of right slave owners.

[D]

Well, that's right.

[A]

In a classic clip that was. Yes, yes. All right, Todd, same to you. What was the most disgusting thing you just saw?

[C]

Well, my. The most disgusting thing I saw was the pastors and the men who allowed all of that to happen. I mean, Aaron, maybe in the future, you know, the thought bubble in my head is in between those segments is yakety sacks, which Aaron has used to maxim effect in the past. Watching what all the men and the pastors are doing while all that is Going on, what allowed it to happen? That's my worst. And I am despondent. I'm not buoyed at all. I don't. Isaiah 1:5. Where would you yet be struck? Hogan's gag reflex. And seeing all of it should be in all of us and we should be doing something about it. What will that be? What will it finally take? Because Steve aptly points out how when he says, when was the last time you heard that preach from your pulpit? You know the hard sayings, things like that, the demons just go out in the public square and give it to you full. And what are you doing while that's happening? Do you really think that that boomerang isn't going to come back and hit you hard? Apparently not. I don't know what it's going to take.

[A]

So what's wrong with me then, that I did not have that, my normal reaction, but instead I just kind of said, hey, thanks for putting everybody on the record and let's get to work now that everybody knows where everybody stands and what we're really up against here. I found this to be strangely empowering. And normally I'm, you know, normally I'm the one over here self harming after one of Aaron's montages here. Why do you think that is? Well, you.

[D]

Because you know, the end of the story, you know about the risen Lord and the salvation and heaven and the whole thing. And so I think there's some comfort in that when you see those moments of grotesque perversion of scripture, as is the case with this buffoon lunatic running for Senate in Texas, the Talarico. So I think in large part, Steve, because you are so moored in Christianity and the basis there that governs your life and directs your path, it can be problematic. But you also understand it's problematic in real life out there. But you also know the outcome. You know you're on the side of victory. So there's some comfort in that. But there also gives you some empowerment and some boldness because you do have on the full armor of God and you realize it's time to fight sometimes. And I'm okay with doing that because that's what God calls us to do. That's my guess as to why you feel that way. Nothing wrong with you at all. I think there's a lot.

[A]

Right.

[C]

I think, Steve, I think you're right. I think Your trip to D.C. gave you an adrenaline shot and you still have that there in your muscle memory, whereas my. And I was inspired because you were inspired. But right now, my reaction to Washington D.C. is we can't even, you know, the, not only the D list, like the, like the Z list of celebrities to sing for the 250th anniversary of this great nation are now all backing out because of pressure from those lunatics in Aaron's montage. See, that's my feeling right now.

[A]

I get that. I get that too. Aaron, you want to chime in on this? You've been quiet, I've left you quiet for a bit. Go ahead.

[B]

Yeah, I mean, on the one hand it is, I think there is a juxtaposition here. This is abject evil, as you always see in the, in this montage every week. It's abject evil, it's chaotic, it is absolutely just off the wall, weird. But I think the juxtaposition here is that that Satanist dude, in the midst of all of this, I think all of us know in the back of our minds the dude is maybe, maybe he really is a Satanist. Maybe he does seances, maybe he sacrifices a goat under a full moon on top of a pentagram or who knows? But the dude is a total loser. He looks like a loser, he sounds like a loser. And he is representative of all of the rest of the impulses that you heard in the montage there. That's not to say, though, that's not to say though, that these people are not dangerous at the same time. That is absolutely true. But as Todd was saying, you know, to kind of maybe expand Todd's point a little bit, we often get accused by the left of being quote, unquote hateful. We're hateful. And that's often directed at Bible believing Christians. We're described as being hateful. I think actually to some degree that's correct. Just not the way the left believes. Because going off of what Todd said, how hateful. If you are a Bible believing Christian, if you go to church and if you're a pastor that actually believes in the God of the universe, believes in the lordship of Christ in all things, how hateful must you be to allow this to go on in your own community? Allowing this to infest your own community, allowing this to infest your own nation. Now, of course, the burden is not entirely. The job is not entirely. What was John Quincy Adams, the quote that you invoked the other day? Outcomes are for the Lord. I don't know if I'm getting.

[A]

Results are up to.

[B]

Effort is.

[A]

Yes, faithfulness is up to us and obedience up to us. And outcomes are up to God. Thank you.

[B]

Thank You. So that comes into play here as well. But yes, there should be some urgency after seeing this. Absolutely. I think probably the worst of the worst for the week was James Tallarico saying, kind of backpedaling a little bit on the God is non binary. I was just trying to say that God defies human labels. Raise your hand if you had heard the term non binary prior to like five, ten years ago.

[A]

Exactly.

[B]

Okay.

[A]

Yeah.

[B]

And did you know Jesus also said in Matthew, have you not heard he made them?

[A]

Yeah. And then he does it by, you know, heretically, hermeneutically, via heretical exegesis, imply or applying another Bible verse.

[B]

Yeah. So it seems to me that the term non binary is the definition of a human made term applied to what, humans. And he's applying it to God. But there again, he's starting to backpedal a little bit.

[A]

Let's get to the exit question. On a scale of 1 to 10, with 1 being the odds Lindsey Graham doesn't know all the names of the gay fighter pilots in the IDF, and 10 being the odds at least one of the gay fighter pilots in the IDF already has a restraining order against Lindsey Graham. Rank this week's level of toll depravity. Todd, I know you. I knew you. I did. Todd, that one was for you. I knew you would like that one. I knew you would.

[C]

Thank you.

[A]

Yes.

[C]

10.

[A]

10. And it was also for Hogan, since it's his home state.

[D]

Hogan, it's bad. Yeah, I think we broke Hogan only

[A]

one segment into this. He's broken. He's broken. Aaron, what about you?

[B]

Yeah, that's a 10.

[A]

All right. Aaron, I don't want to have you do work for nothing. Are you okay if I call an audible here at the last second?

[B]

I was hoping you would.

[A]

Okay. So we were going to discuss the art of the Iran deal, but it. But this is now, it looks like from what the President and the White House are saying, it looks like it's very possible by the time this gets up on YouTube and podcasts later, that entire conversation might be null and void. And something was just brought up that I was asked about on Glenn Beck's show today that I saw trending as soon as I got up this morning. And you're the one that brought it up, Todd. So if you guys don't mind, I'm going to call in audible and I want to just. I want to discuss some thoughts on this lineup of performers that was announced yesterday as part of America 250, and that they're pretty much all canceling now after they were announced and. And let me just tell you, when Glenn asked me about this, let me share what my answer to him was, and then I'm going to give you guys the floor. I think that when a lot of us saw that announcement, like, I didn't know Millie Vanilli was still alive. Okay. I think that when a lot of us saw that announcement, we just kind of rolled our eyes and just, you know, and I've got more impressing things to, you know, to be verklempt about than that, but there's a lot of has beens and a lot of never weres and a lot of hardly new years on that list. Right. I think that this is actually a constructive and instructive moment that Todd and Aaron Hogan have heard me for years just completely go off on, particularly in Christian circles. The minute some celebrity says something remotely non communist, we want to give him a Zondervan book deal. Right? Constantly looking for celebrity, mainstream pop culture legitimacy, while at the same time saying, nobody cares what those people think. Right? Which is funny because the two most successful presidents the right has produced Post World War II, or at least since Eisenhower, were a former movie star and head of the Screen Actors Guild and the most popular celebrity in the world before he became president. But I digress. Okay? But my point being that this is, I think, is an opportunity to do the Homer Simpson GIF retreat into the Bushes. Mistakes were made that never happened. We don't need these people, all right? The. The occasion is its own platform. The presidency is its own platform. Take a page out of TPUSA's halftime show. Get our own people, put them up there, all right? Get people that maybe aren't even that well known yet and make stars out of them with the power of that bully pulpit. Highlight the. You know, it's about the name on the front of the jersey, not the name on the back. Right. And I think this is an opportunity to do a make good here and realize this was a colossally embarrassing mistake. I think a lot of our base, including the host of this show, were pretty embarrassed by that list yesterday. And we're just kind of like, whatever, dude. And I'm actually relieved now, to me. And I can also see, frankly, this is not, you know, if we want to get back to the, you know, the country that, you know, that the COVID of this book is about. Exactly. Almost none of those people represent any of that. Almost none of them do. So, you know, I could maybe see that. I could see the Lord maybe stirring some of These people. Yeah. Yeah. I don't think you really want to show up at that event, do you? You know, so I think hit control, alt, delete, do this all over again. All right? And let's put our own people in there with our own belief systems in there and show their talent off and make it about America and not some X list, D list celebrities who are way past their prime. And some of them who got famous by lying about who they were, like Millie Vanilli. Thoughts?

[C]

How did that not happen in the first place is my first question.

[A]

That's a very good question, and I don't know the answer to that. Yeah.

[C]

And I don't know what to say after that. I mean, people should be begging to be part of the 250th anniversary. But the problem is, outside of country music, Nashville, Texas, here's the dirty little secret. We don't have right wing culture in this country. Most of the culture that the right wing likes is the left wing culture. They ultimately want the entertainment that they feed. There's very few Steve Dases trying to make a movie like he did. Most of the people want to go slumming. And it's, you know, it's honestly, fantasy football is right wing culture. That's not going to cut it.

[A]

I mean, I. I'd put our own comedians up there, too. I mean, I'd go all out. You know what? You're right. This is going to be a partisan event because you guys hate America anyway. Let's just be honest that the people that love America are our people, and then just put that show on and not be unevenly yoked. Let's just be honest about that. Hogan, That's.

[D]

That's where I wanted you to go, and I'm glad you got there before me. Although you're going to still sell my thunder here. I remember on my Twitter profile, I've got a picture of me that's still up. It was in from 2016, 2015, during the presidential cycle when Trump won. And I'm doing like this as I'm talking, because they were talk. They were describing how Beyonce and Madonna and everyone had come out for Hillary. And I said, hey, man, we got Ted Nugent. And they all started dying out laughing. Point being, there's a whole subculture here that they don't even recognize as being worth anything. It's the deplorables, it's the irredeemables that Hillary Clinton so famously talked about. But in my mind, I'm thinking everyone is as I don't remember who mentioned it? I think it was Todd said everyone should want to be a part of the celebration of the greatest idea ever realized America. And it's on her 250th birthday. And then I said, you know, but I bet some would be canceled. And I said, why would they be canceled?

[A]

I was going through this in my head.

[D]

I said, because they'll be associated with Trump. And I thought, why does that even matter? Because this is about America's birthday, not Donald Trump. And then I realized, wait a minute. Even if it were about America, that's the problem.

[A]

Yeah.

[D]

So many in the zeitgeist here hate America. They think we're the cause of the world's problems. We're the root of all evil. We're oppressive, we're nasty. So they don't even like us as a country. So why would they participate? Take Donald Trump out of it for a second. If this were, you know, somebody else as president, chances are a lot of them participate because they just don't like America. And they sure downright hate her when someone like Donald Trump is in the White House 10,000%.

[A]

Rachel Maddow had Bush derangement syndrome and Dick Cheney was literally Hitler. She wept like a schoolgirl at Dick Cheney's funeral last year. All right. Yeah, that's exactly right. All right, Mike Pence, it's a. Mike Pence was going to. Mike Pence is going to round up all the gays for doing the RFRA in Indiana. Now they can't get enough of. They've had a strange new respect for the former vice president. The whole thing is a damn political scam. So, Aaron, they're doing it correct. Let's just own it then. Let's just let. We are, we are a nation divorced. We may never realize it in a physical sense on this landmass, but it's absolutely true on a cultural sense. So let's just stop saying otherwise. Let's be consenting adults here and own up to it and let's put our own damn event on and screw them.

[D]

One quick point. They're already doing it with Vance. They're saying, correct, JD's worse than Donald Trump. See, it was. Bush was horrible right when he was president. And he, you know, then Romney's way worse than George Bush. Milquetoast Mitt Romney, of all people. And then it was, Trump is Hitler, Trump's the worst. And then, no, no, now JD's way worse than that. So it's always the next guy is the worst one. That's what's so obviously stupid on their part that we know they're running a scam on the whole thing. Sorry, that's an aside, but makes me mad.

[B]

Yeah, I mean, as you were talking, all of you were talking, I was thinking, what is like some high quality fine art that would be willing. There's already proof of concept that they could do something like this and would genuinely put on a very patriotic pro America event. What fits what checks all of those boxes. Probably willing to do it. Loves America. Fine art, high quality. And I've got one idea in the vastness of right America, which is like half the country. I've got one. It's like the Mormon Tabernacle Choir. It's like one. And they're great.

[A]

They are great.

[B]

Have you ever heard the rendition with the army band of Battle Hymn of the Republic? It's incredible.

[A]

It'll make Darren in the back here next.

[B]

That's one. Yeah. But this goes back to what Todd was saying. There is no culture on the right. And yes, that is. That is both a symptom of some of the comfortability that Todd talks about all the. All of the time. But there's also a deeper reason as well, and it's one that we've gotten into in passing, is who is going to fund that culture? Who is a right wing donor? Who's going to say that this is. I don't expect a return on investment. The creation of good fine culture is the return on the investment. Who are the donors? The critical mass of donors who understand that. And that's a whole nother can of worms.

[A]

Yeah, that's the world I live in now. So I get that. So let me give you an alternative lineup. Tell me if you think this was better, would be better or worse than what was announced by the. By the America 250 Committee. Yes, yes, it's better.

[C]

I have to believe it. You don't even have to say a thing. If this isn't better, let me give

[A]

you the list before we run out of time. All right. George Strait, Michael Crawford, the Broadway legend who originated the Phantom of the Opera role. Gloria Gaynor, one of the most popular disco singers of all time, who of course then became a gospel singer and one of the greatest legendary rock bands of all time. Kiss. Is that a better lineup than what was just announced by the America 250?

[B]

Yes.

[A]

Now why did I. Of course it is. Now why did I give you those names? Because they showed up. What is it? Hogan, Go ahead.

[D]

Well, they were all inducted into the Kennedy Center.

[A]

Kennedy center honors under Trump. They all showed up. They all showed up. Why did they help me under. This is just really simple. You turn right around to the people that have. Most of these are bigger names than most of the names. George Strait's a bigger name than anybody that was on that list yesterday, for example. All right. He sold more albums than anybody on that list has. Maybe some. Maybe more than almost that entire list combined, frankly. Okay, why not just go back to those people, call the very same acts that TPUSA had up and said, hey, you guys are America250 now? Now you guys tell us who are some up and comers, some people that we want to blow up, some people who want to make the next superstars. You guys tell us who that is. And we want to give them a platform as well. You're hitting several genres here. Disco, gospel. All right, so you're hitting an urban. You're hitting an urban with Gloria. You're hitting country with George Strait, Rock rock with Kiss. Go right back to the same Michael Crawford. You get into the Broadway world. Go right back to those same people. Why wasn't that done? I just did this in. While you guys were talking, I just did a search. Hey, who did who. Who's gotten a Kennedy center honor from the Trump since Trump took it over? These names came up. I could have done this in five minutes and avoided whatever this was for the last 24 hours.

[D]

And I will tell you, in that celebration, because I was there, Gaynor, she had the entire. She was the only one, had the entire crowd up clapping and dancing. It was really, really outstanding. And those, those artists, as you just said, have been around for a long time. They're very accomplished. But they cut all of those genres. Everybody's got something to enjoy there. I'm telling you that that'd be a great idea.

[A]

Something.

[B]

Something we do have, and you already mentioned it, we do have a groundswell of our comedians as well.

[A]

Yeah.

[B]

And so I think those in and of themselves could be headline acts. Even if people even like our buddy Tim Young.

[A]

Why not Kiss doing Detroit Rock city at America's 250th or Millie Vanilli lip syncing to what these are. This was such a. This I just kind of. This was a self own. We stepped on a rake here for talent that frankly wasn't worth it.

[B]

Wall street has circuit breakers to prevent panic selling. I kind of think in this process, once you got down the list to Milli Vanilli, maybe a circuit breaker should have been triggered.

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Someone says, guys, we got some time. Let's rethink this. Yes. All right. We'll come back more of the day. Scroop here in a moment. And I can't wait till we get to predictions at the end. I've got a good one Todd's going to love. Stay tuned.

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We now go to Dearborn, Michigan, where the city held its 100th annual Memorial Day parade. Included in that parade was Ms. Swaine County, Amirah Hashwee, who has held that title for nearly a year. Ashwee is the first Ms. Wayne county, however, to wear a hijab and is therefore the first Miss Wayne county to wear a hijab in the Memorial Day parade. Ashri told Fox 2 Detroit, I think

[A]

a lot of people tend to forget how America was founded.

[C]

And you know, it is a big

[A]

melting pot of people from different cultures, different religions, different races. Being Muslim doesn't stop me from living my American dream.

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On second thought, maybe that's precisely what the signers of the Declaration of Independence had in mind in 1776, that Muslim dominion should be commonplace in America. Maybe that's what Thomas Jefferson had in mind when he sent the Marines to the shores of Tripoli, that Islam would Be paraded on a day honoring the nation's fallen sons in battle. Yeah, that sounds right.

[A]

Boy, if there's anything that you get out of that famous portrait of the signing of the Declaration of Independence, it's that we are a melting pot of different cultures. I mean, that. That picture. If there's anything. If there's anything that just instant reaction that you get. All right. It's diversity. No doubt. So let's talk about the photo of Ms. Wayne county over Memorial Day. Your reaction to the photo, Todd? I'll start with you.

[C]

Well, listen, that's what happens in a state where Connor Stallions is a folk hero. You know, you pick your gods and you worship accordingly.

[A]

I figured you'd find a way to blame Connor Stallions for this. Yes. Go ahead. Yes.

[C]

Yeah, I don't. Well, it's this, the state. How many men in that state will just watch the world pass them by? As long as the block M takes care of its business, It's a high number. This is what idolatry does.

[A]

Aaron, what about you?

[B]

Why not? Why not? That's my reaction. I mean, I told you guys this the other day coming into work. And I'm not going to give away any specific, Steve, so don't get too nervous. There's some Muslim festival going on this week I had not seen. It was hard to get into work the other day. I think it was Tuesday or Wednesday. Hard to get into work because of the number of Muslims streaming in to this large building where they were gathering. I have not seen that many Muslims. This is in a suburb of Des Moines, Iowa. A suburb of Des Moines, Iowa. I have not seen that many Muslims in one place with my eyes for 16 years. The last time did they have Milli

[C]

Vanilli headlining air event? Darren?

[B]

The last time I saw that many Muslims in one place with my own eyes, 16 years ago, driving around London, England. You cannot. These cultures are not compatible at all. And you can see. I don't know what the overarching. You could blame it on the Muslim Brotherhood, but that religion is a religion of dominion. It is. It's not a religion of peace. It's a religion of dominion. We've harped on this all the time. And you can see they are totally. That woman does not have some sort of Arabic accent. She sounds like she's from Michigan. She sounds like she's from Michigan.

[A]

Very pretty lady.

[B]

Yes, and she's pretty at that, wearing a hijab. Being a Muslim doesn't stop me from living my American dream happily, happily invoking the founding of this country, that we are a melting pot, even though that could not be further from the truth at the very best, completely taken out of context. So there are different cultures and not all cultures are equal. But just because a culture is strong doesn't mean it is good. Just because a culture necessarily is weak doesn't necessarily mean it's bad. The culture of Islam is strong. It's not a good culture either. We're going to have to combat that with a strong and good culture which this country has enjoyed and taken for granted for 250 years, or at least the better part of the last few generations. So my reaction to saying that is, why not? Because certainly our culture has shown that it is ripe for the weakness that it takes to allow Islam dominion.

[A]

So, Hogan, Dearborn, Michigan has the highest per capita concentration of Muslims of any community in America since, since 911 we've taken almost 4 million in 4 million foreigners from Islamic dominated cultures. We are seeing what Islamic dominated Somalis are doing to the state of Minnesota. Everybody's favorite Muslim country right now apparently within the influencer ride is Qatar. Do you know, Hogan, can you just take a guess how many Christian citizens are there in Qatar? Do you know the answer to that? Oh no, it's maybe a couple hundred. Okay, it's maybe a couple hundred. Now there are hundreds of thousands of Christians in Qatar, but they're almost all like migrant laborer workers, indentured servants from other countries that are basically glorified slaves. There's only a couple hundred actual Christian citizens in Qatar as we speak. So make of that what you will. Your thoughts?

[D]

Yeah, I think, I don't remember who said it, but the culture clash here is going to come to a head sooner rather than later. You're seeing it already spill over into the streets like you said in Minnesota, Michigan, proving ground for this as well. You know, I was listening to everyone comment on this, the sound bite as you said. Beautiful young girl. I read a extra biblical writing the other day talking about a breakdown of blessed are the peacemakers. I'd never thought of these terms and I'm sure Steve, you probably have, but it's not blessed are the peacekeepers, it's blessed are the peacemakers. You have to make peace. A lot of times when other cultures, when other countries, when other nations don't have that, you know, makeup to, to be peaceful, to live amongst a region and not be terrorist in nature, you have to make peace. And those among us who, who do that in ways of bringing truth forward, of standing up for American values. That in and of itself, by its very nature, I guess, is part of the making of peace. If you, if your goal is to keep, keep peace, there's a passivity inherent, inherent in that, where you end up on the wrong side of that Overton window sooner rather than later. You're pushing away the American principles and the ideals. And as I said earlier, if you think that America is evil at her core, you think that we're the cause of the world's problems. To get that into people's heads, that is the precursor to then saying, see, America needs to be completely, completely reimagined. We're so awful that we need to be reimagined. Let's look around at some cultures that we've imported into this country, and instead of pushing back and saying, no, we do things this way in America, we say, you know what? We're going to try some of your stuff, and you're seeing these pockets of it in different areas. And I would argue this is going to be a serious. It already is a serious problem, but I think it is going to be a, a serious problem on a larger scale in the near future, 100%.

[A]

And the reason why I bring up the exchange of human resources between the Islamic world and us, for example, is because Aaron was quoting Charlie when he said these worldviews are not compatible. Right. And so how do we know that? Well, this Muslim woman, this beautiful young Muslim woman, is she more likely to be free living in a country founded on Christian principles like ours, or a nation founded on Muslim principles like her own religion? Where is she more likely to be free as this beautiful young woman in this parade? Where is it more likely to be?

[B]

That's the irony. She's talking about being free to live the American dream while she's wearing a

[A]

symbol of subservience and subjugation to what?

[B]

Not the American dream, subservience to Islam,

[A]

to the very religion that would not grant her this freedom. And so this is why this is important. Because ultimately she has to make a decision, am I an American or a Muslim? Because the worldviews are not compatible. And so she will either end up being a vessel to implement the very worldview that would not let her be free anywhere else in the world that it dominated, or she'll have to give that worldview up to assimilate here evidence in our culture. What's, what's happening on a more often basis. They're giving up the old culture to assimilate here, or they're bringing the Old culture and imposing it on us, gentlemen. What's the overwhelming evidence seem to dictate the latter?

[C]

It's obvious. But she never has to make that decision because we won't make it ourselves. We won't make the decision to be Americans.

[B]

This is what I'm talking about. Strong versus weak cultures.

[A]

This is where, you know, the Levy Breaks. Led Zeppelin is, you cannot serve two masters. You're gonna serve one or the other here. That's the bottom line, which is why

[C]

we're gonna all be in full football stadiums 10 years from now and at halftime, having calls to prayer. And not for Christian prayer.

[A]

Well, that's. Well, you know what, that may happen. We may need the Saudi money in order to bail out the collegiate sports.

[C]

There's just too much money.

[A]

They may need the private equity firms from Riyadh. That may be true. Let's get to the exit question. What's the appropriate amount of Muslims that America should import?

[B]

Is this a trick question?

[A]

Yes.

[B]

I'm thinking it's pretty round number.

[A]

I think, given the amount we've imported, the answer at this point in time is probably zero. Probably zero.

[C]

It should be negative.

[A]

I mean, you could say it also depends on assimilation. I was just going to say, you could say if we were a stronger culture and we wanted to extend. We wanted to help folks that were clearly interested in fleeing what is clear subjugation and tyranny, we might be in a position to extend that as a representation of love, our neighbors, we love ourselves. But the problem is we've taken so much of this in now that now we're not doing the first most important commandment, which is to love the Lord our God with all the heart, soul, strength and mind. They're making us want to instead impose theirs on us. And that's why the calculus has completely changed. No question.

[D]

And if we push back, we are bigoted. Correct. We are racist.

[A]

Correct.

[D]

That's the problem.

[A]

Everybody's allowed. Everybody's allowed exclusivity of their culture except us. Everybody else but us. Yes.

[D]

There was a. There was a 60 minutes or something years ago, I remember, did a whole thing on religion, and they had. I want to say it was Joel Osteen as the representative of Christianity.

[A]

So we already lost. Yeah.

[D]

Yeah. Well, yeah, that's where I was going. It had different religions and they were saying, yeah, if you don't believe in Allah, you. You're, you know, you're going to hell. If you don't believe this, you're going to. All these were, like, very firm People. And then Joel, as I recall, said something to the effect that. Well, you know, I don't like to say.

[A]

Yep.

[D]

I think it's a journey for everybody. And I thought he was the softest one.

[A]

Yep.

[D]

And he still got labeled as being too harsh. And I thought everyone else said, here's the line. Cross it, you're going to hell. You got the wrath. You've got punishment. Joel was the only one who was kind of namby pamby on it. And then we're still somehow correct. He's still somehow the harsh one.

[A]

Correct. Let's get to the kicker topic. If you could unilaterally make the decision to import more people from one country, which country would it be and why? Quickly, Aaron.

[B]

Afrikaners from South Africa.

[A]

See, that would be my answer.

[B]

They are the most likely to strongly push back against the racialism that has so long been a cancerous. Cancerous in the Democrat Party and therefore

[A]

the rest of the country, with one disclaimer. See, replacement theory can work both ways. They have to be relocated only into key swing states because of everything you just said. We'll just replace their voters. Then we'll just import them and we'll replace their voters. And in fact, we can import literally every white Africana, as far as I'm concerned. Put them all in. Every. Just line up the five or six key swing states and move them all in there. Yeah, that was my answer as well. Todd, go ahead. Right.

[C]

North Korea. It'd be like liberating a concentration camp. I mean, they'd just be grateful.

[A]

That's a good answer, too. Same thing. But they can only move to swing states. They have to be in swing states. Right. We're doing replacement theory and we're doing it in reverse. Now we're going to replace those.

[C]

That's just cruel. Then they're better off in North Korea.

[A]

Some of our swing states are places like North Carolina, Georgia. These are beautiful places. All right, go ahead. What do you got, Hogan?

[D]

Well, I've been to North Korea. Let me tell you, there's going to be some deprogramming needed if they come to this country.

[A]

That's a good point, too. Yeah.

[D]

Pretty intense. I think both those answers are fine. I don't have a pushback on either one.

[A]

All right, let's get to predictions. Todd, go.

[C]

Oh, my goodness. I forgot my. Oh, no. 250th American anniversary. Elliot Page will be appearing as Toby Keith. Come.

[A]

It's your prediction, not troll. That's never happening. All right, they are not having misconducts.

[C]

Did you see the list that actually happened? It might happen.

[A]

I still can't believe that made it through any kind of an editing process.

[B]

Wow.

[A]

Aaron, go ahead.

[B]

We'll be back at striking Iran after the midterms.

[A]

Could totally see it. I could totally see it would be required even before.

[B]

Hey, I would just want to say last week my prediction was we're going to cut and run one way or another within three weeks. So I guess not all of my predictions are lame.

[A]

All right, Hogan, what's yours?

[D]

I'm going to say we will buck historical trends and I had so many for Talarico and others, but I think we're going to buck historical trends and actually hold the House of Representatives in large part because the master stroke of redistricting mid cycle, the margin of error

[A]

for the other side has greatly been diminished. That is for sure. I mean, by my count, I don't see any more than 20 competitive seats and maybe as low as 13 or 14 depending on how things go. Now here's the caveat though. And I said this this morning on Glenn show as well, Walt, that's a great strategic move. We have to understand they're not like us. If they have a two seat majority, they're going to behave as if it's a 200 seat majority. All right? They're all going to go in lockstep. Right. We're concerned about margins of majorities on our side. On their side, it's going to look like they're the death star. Whether it's halfway completed or it's fully implemented and operational, that's how it's going to work. But I hear you. All right, so my prediction is that the sec, you'll like this with your Ole Miss shirt there. The SEC is going to hold out one more year against the 2014 playoffs to appease the Sugar Daddy ESPN. But then after too many of its teams get left out with too many losses thanks to that ninth conference game, it will relent most of its players and most of its ads and coaches want it now. I think that'll certainly be the case and you're going to have that in 2028. And I'm going to tell you right now, if you want to save whatever's left of college football, you should be for this. Todd is wrong and I'll explain why. I'll explain why. In a future program, your two options on the table are that we have a super league and all kinds of opportunities for young people walk or are gone. Not just in football, but all the sports that Todd's daughters are playing. Those are all gone. Or we have to create a middle class in college football without those two. Those are your two realistic options. We're never going back. That's not how human nature works. Those are the only two options.

[C]

That's a poor application of human nature.

[A]

It is an accurate.

[C]

You should just throw your phone in a pond like Connor stallions did after that analysis. Because it says dirty. As crooked as that is.

[A]

That's such a good line. I'll let stand.

[C]

We don't have that.

[A]

I'm let my own staff get the last word on me. That's how good that was.

[C]

Your kid, your kids book. We believe we can go back. And you're right about that Covid MRNA vaccine. That's not our destiny. It's not just human nature.

[A]

Todd's gonna still be talking.

[C]

Thank you for transgenderism.

[A]

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[B]

You bet.

[C]

Indeed.

[A]

All right, let's start here with Joseph Huditz, who asks. You know, I've been listening for many years, but I've never really heard how you guys met and grew to admire and hire Todd and Aaron. You're a great team and I know a lot of us would love to know the background of your relationship. Have we talked about this? I can't remember. That's why I flagged this one.

[C]

It's been a while, but yeah, it's come up. Yeah.

[A]

So I'll just kind of start with kind of my version of events, then Todd and Aaron. You can course correct edit if you need to. But I got to know Todd over 20 years ago. He just kind of reached out to me and really liked the sports show that I did here locally and the way that I did it, incorporating worldview, and then had heard me fill in for the late great Jan Michaelson, one of my mentors on Newsradio 1040, who. And we just kind of struck up a friendship and it kind of grew over the years. And when my initial assistant, Jen, who has a personality very much like Todd's, but is. But is a chicken, when she decided that working late nights doing this show, nine to, you know, midnight Eastern for Salem, just wasn't working, you know, with mommy duty, he was the first and only person I called to replace her. Because it's vitally important to me that someone here says things that either I don't like or don't want said or that other people might think about what I think and say not from the spirit of the ages point of view, but from our own. I think we've demonstrated throughout the course of our history extraordinary supernatural unity within the Christian church. The fundamentals you'll find in an ancient document like the Didache are pretty much the fundamentals of what are preached and in every Orthodox, small o Christian church, Catholic, Protestant or Orthodox throughout the world today, it's pretty much the same stuff. But we've also demonstrated we have a pesky amount of divergence of opinions on everything else other than those things. Right. And so I think it is vitally important to empower someone to. To look at me and to say, jane, you ignorant slut, whether I agree or disagree, so that I don't become like, basically some of those that I've been critical of in the past. And so that's essentially Todd's job. I mean, he has tasks here that he's good at, but the main course of his job is to say the kinds of things maybe I don't want to hear and to prick my conscience and at least make me rethink things, even if I don't end up agreeing ultimately with him. So he was brought in first, and then Rebecca, who was a very talented producer for us about a year after Jen left, had the same issue where she's like, you know, I'd really like to find a husband. And working nine to midnight Monday through Friday is not. Not great because she's got to be in, you know, an hour or two early to get the show ready. Those are kind of prime husband finding hours, you know. And so she recommended this young man from Northwestern Bible College in Minneapolis that she had heard and gave me his name as a replacement. And I went and listened to. I didn't. I didn't check in on any of his technical stuff. I didn't talk to the program director up there. To me, I didn't care about any of that. That can be trained now. Now we're doing way more technical stuff. We were just a radio show back then. I mean, I could have run my own radio show back then because I learned how to do that. The stuff Aaron does now on the video, the promo that you saw with why Independence Day is way beyond my capabilities. But we weren't in that era yet. We were still kind of in the tail end of just the radio era. So I was more interested in what he was going to sound like on the air because I've also always wanted people with. With differing perspectives within Christianity to be a part of the show. That's why I initially launched with two women. That's why we have a Catholic. That's why we have a millennial. All right. And so I listened to what Aaron sounded like on the air, and I thought he was pretty strong. I had no idea that Aaron was the younger brother of the young lady who did singing lessons for my daughter. Anastasia McIntyre is a pretty common name. That's not even an uncommon spelling of the name. I did not know when I originally reached out to Aaron that we had a relationship already in common. I. I did not know that. And so that's how Aaron was brought in to the fold is I hired him for his on air presence, not his technical proficiency. That just ended up being an added bonus, especially as we then came into the video and streaming era and, and now the AI era. And so that stuff's going to be more important than it ever was before.

[C]

Yeah, that more or less sums it up. You know, I. The thing that caused me to reach out to Steve because I didn't listen to his sports show, but I heard him sub on the new show that I listened to. But then I looked into him and he. He and I missed each other at the Des Moines Register. But I think less than a year, Steve was gone. I came in. Can you imagine the two of us wandering around together in the hallways of the Des Moines Register if they were there at the same time? Good grief, that would have been something. But that's what really. I knew that I could reach out to Steve in a cold call in a way where he would get where I was at, because he had been there, too. I mean, I just. I was watching people pass me by that were younger than me, less experienced than me just because they drank the Kool Aid and I refused to. And I knew he would get that, and he did. And the only other thing I'll add is just in terms of My role here, but to the degree that I am allowed to do that, it is fundamentally because I believe my primary role is to. To guard and to protect. I'm kind of like a watchdog, and I'm good at that role because one of the things that made me really, really mad is all the people that Steve. Steve and I were friends for 10 years. Ish. Before I was on the show. But because we talked, I watched what was going on, listening to the show. The number of people that benefited, obviously, from Steve's help in any number of ways, and when it came time for them to make a call on moving on and advancing their own cause, but that required them to shank Steve in some way, the number of people that would backstab him was just appalling to me. So never mistake. My level of pushback is always. It's born of gratitude for the work he has done, continues to do, is willing to do, to not sell out, to do the right thing, no matter the cost, to keep principles first. I always love that. And so it's an honor to be part of this, because that's one thing I'll never do. Short of what Steve says, what all men should do. If somebody becomes morally corrupt, reprobate, blasphemous, well, then that's not a Steve and Todd matter. That's what all men ultimately have to choose a different path. But short of that, I'm, you know, Steve, Dase is my ride or die. And the last reason is the joke that I make is because of the coattails. It's because that's the kind of person I want to be in a dark alley with.

[A]

Thank you, brother.

[B]

So my version of events goes back 3,000. No, not 3,000 years. It goes back a little bit further than that. Who Radio. The blowtorch here in Iowa was always a staple going back well before you even were on the air in central Iowa at all. It was just. I was a Rush baby. I remember I was so young, I had no idea what any of these things meant, but I think it was his morning update. One time I asked my mom, is Rush really a Russian? I was like, that's such a weird name. I didn't know what it was. But that was, like, one of my earliest memories of actually, you know, actually acknowledging Rush Limbaugh and who Radio. Paul Harvey was also a mainstay in our house. We'd always have that on around noon, especially for his noon update. And I think the first time I ever heard you was when you started to kind of Fill in after those. If I remember this correctly, there was a gap basically on the schedule. Now once Paul Harvey kind of went away in that program, that noon update kind of started to falter a little bit. And that's what you. That's what you started in on.

[A]

That was the first thing to introduce me as a daily thing with the plan of then having me with a permanent time slot.

[B]

Yeah. And I was like, okay, this guy's kind of interesting, doesn't really have much of a radio voice, but he can more than hold his own. That was kind of my initial impression, but kept listening to you more and more. And one of the things, one of the digs that some of our trolls tried to get at me. You just sound like a mini Steve and. Well, one, thanks. Number two. Yeah, I do. A lot of my takes sound like Steve a lot. And it's not intentional. It's because the formative years of my worldview building also happened to be at the same time. I was listening to the guy during kind of some of his formative years of worldview building as well. It just so happened he was on the other end of the radio. So I listened to you. I mean, I wouldn't miss anything. A single program on who during high school. I didn't miss a single show for the most part. And that kind of fell off a little bit in college. Although I still tried to listen to you in college. And then once I was kind of out of college, I started listening to you more seriously again. My version, the way I remember it is the first time we actually got connected face to face was thanks to my brother in law, Dave Barnett, who worked for then the Iowa Family Policy center, then became the family leader. And you guys kind of knew each other. And I think we met at NRB once or twice.

[A]

Oh, okay.

[B]

Yeah. And again, I kind of barely remember that, but I think we met the first time there. And then I think the first time I actually spent any long amount of time with you was winter break or Christmas break freshman year. I came and shadowed you for a day doing your program on who. So that was kind of how we started to know each other. I can't remember if it was Rebecca or Dave when you were ready to find a new producer who recommended me. And that's how we kind of got connected again. So what's interesting, I always find interesting is that Rebecca took my job at the Faith Radio Network as morning show producer and I took her job back. So we just kind of traded places, but everything worked out. So that's kind of how I remember things shaking out.

[A]

And, you know, we've been together ever since we all came together. What, 2015, was it late 2015? Was late 2015 altogether. Yeah.

[C]

So I was January 15th because my first day on the job was the speaker debate with Boehner, etc and replacing him.

[A]

That was a disappointing day. That was the day several members of Congress we helped get elected lied to Daniel and his group that they were going to. They promised to vote against Speaker Boehner and then didn't do so. Yeah, I remember that.

[C]

You Remember? And then 2016 came, and that's when I famously said, you think this year was bad, next year is going to be worse. And. And look at where we are now. It's pretty much on the mark.

[A]

Oh, goodness. All right, let's march on. I'm a big fan of your guys's show, especially ever since Rush passed away to that point. I was a missionary in Asia for 30 years and we have eight kids. One of my daughters decided to run for school board here in North Dakota. So just a brief aside, I just keynoted the North Dakota State Republican Convention at the end of March. So just about two months ago. Note continues. On a debate she was at last week, she mentioned that Christianity and Islam and Sharia law cannot coexist. And wow, the explosion of hate and hit pieces that have come out in less than a week is mind numbing. Todd, we are now feeling your pain in your running for school board experience. The speed with which our words and intentions can be twisted and weaponized is very disappointing. All of our kids were raised in a multicultural settings. They have Muslim, Buddhist and Hindu friends. Like she said, she's not talking about a person or a people, but an ideology. This is an issue that we must. That must be talked about. We have thousands of Muslims right here in our city. Can I stop? As an aside, this is Steve again. What possible reason would there need to be thousands of Muslims in a North Dakota city? Just tell me, what would it be? Why? I'm asking. I think we get to ask these questions. It's our country. We get to ask, what possible benefit is it to the people of North Dakota to have thousands of Muslims living in one of their cities? First of all, there's not a lot of North Dakota cities that have thousands. So I would imagine this is one of the bigger cities in North Dakota. What's the benefit? What is it? Somebody tell me, what's the benefit? Todd? Aaron, take your best shot. I'll get back to the rest of this Note. But tell me, what is the residual benefit for the people of North Dakota to have thousands of Muslims living in one of their cities?

[B]

Something, something, something. There's just too much.

[A]

What are they getting out of it? What would they get? At least the Indians are, you know, can, you know, code at a high level. So at least the H1B scam is a scam. But at least some of those people can actually do like really important things, things I still think Americans could do. But what is the reason why any North Dakota city needs thousands of Muslims to what would be the benefit of those people? I'm asking what's the answer? Because I genuinely don't know what it is.

[C]

Being comfortably numb. They, they prefer that to rolling up their sleeves and doing the hard thing, which is the impetus of this letter. Because there is a cost and they don't want to do it. They don't want to bear it. We know that's true.

[A]

I don't think there is an answer. I don't think anybody in the sound of my voice could answer. There is no benefit at all. There's none. There's absolutely none. I can see what benefit there is to the Muslims, but I don't see what benefit there was to the Americans that were already living there. I, I, I don't see the benefit at all. I don't, I don't think there's a singular one. Not one. Anyway. This entire experience has been a surprise. We love your show. Please be praying for us. They're now attacking my wife's business as well, which was started with this same daughter. We may now be canceled out of some upcoming events. This is North Dakota. North Dakota, folks. North Dakota. But here's the thing.

[C]

If they weren't comfortably numb, the reaction would be people notice she's not talking about. People are rallying to her cause.

[A]

Well, it should be. I didn't get to the PS yet from Bruce and his family. PS Listen to this now. Needless to say, the loudest voices against us in our community are actually not from the Muslims here, but from liberal white women. Raise your hand if you're surprised by that statement.

[C]

And who are the quietest voices?

[A]

The men. Particularly their husbands. Particularly their husbands. Yeah.

[C]

All the other ones too. There's a Moms for Liberty. There ain't a Dads for Liberty. Well, actually there is now. And your son in law is more or less running it. But there wasn't until like 5 seconds ago.

[A]

Someone tell me again what benefit it is to the people of North Dakota to have thousands of Muslims living there. What's the benefit? Any immigration transaction should begin with that question. Every single time. Every single time. Even someone seeking refuge, it begins with that question. It has to. In the era we're in, we're losing our way of life. We're losing our country. What is the benefit? And there's no name you could call me. I don't care. And my vocabulary is better than yours, I promise, so I'll have better names to call you. I promise you. My vocabulary is better. So I don't care what Aunt petunia or diversity Bro14 or the Krasnstein, whoever the hell those brothers are. I don't. I don't care. And neither should any of you. Neither should any of you.

[C]

But you're a unicorn.

[A]

And that's one of the reasons why we're in the position that we're in. Yes, I used to just be what we called an American. That's what I used to. This is just. This just used to be what an American male was. This is just. This is just what it was. But. But we are. You just cannot allow yourself to be name called out of a civilization. And if you do, that's on you. That is on you. Then I can't help you and no one else can either. Simple question to what benefit is it to have thousands of Muslims living in North Dakota? How does it benefit the people of North Dakota? What do they offer? What do they bring? What is it? Because you know what, in their homelands, they're asking those questions. In Qatar, where there's only a couple of hundred Christian citizens in the country, they get to ask, what benefit would it be to have these Christians here given citizenship status? They get to ask that. Why don't we get to ask it? They get to ask, why don't we get to ask it? There's not a public Christian church in Saudi Arabia. They get to ask that. They get to say, well, to what benefit would be. Would it be for us to have a Christian church in Saudi Arabia? They get to ask that of their country. Why don't we get to ask that question? You're damn right we do. What's the benefit of this? What is it? You know, they didn't ask that question in Western Europe for 30 years. And now they have insane rape rates because they imported a worldview which has locales with the. With an age of consent at 9, because Muhammad least had the good sense after he married Aisha at six to wait three years before he consummated the relationship. He's a real hero. Worldview is destiny. What is the benefit to the people of North Dakota? Just answer that simple question. What's the benefit to the people of North Dakota to import thousands of Muslims? Just go ahead and line it up. What is it? Just tell us what it is. There's not an answer. No answer. Because no such answer exists. Well, well, if you want to go with, well, they're fleeing tyranny. Whose tyranny are they fleeing? The tyranny of. Wait for it, wait for it, wait for it. Looks down, checks, notes. Muslims. Tyranny of Muslims. So what assurances do we have that they will abandon that belief system and assimilate into ours rather than attempt to impose their, their belief system into ours? And if the reply to that you're a racist, I don't care. I don't care. And neither should anybody within the sound of my voice. It's not racist to want to defend the sanctity of your own country. It's not what racism is. And I'm also here to tell Bruce and family those liberal white women were never voting for you, so their opinions don't matter. They were never voting for you. They were never voting for you. It was never going to happen. Nobody voting for you is yelling at you in your families. Nobody who loves you and cares about you is yelling at you. You might have a DNA strand in common, maybe even a last name, but if they're yelling at you for your views, all they've told you is we were going to be the people that turned you in anyway. In the future, when the time comes, it will be very tisk tsky on the sidewalk as you're being hauled off to the camps. But no, it was us. If you can be shamed out of defending your country, there's I, you cannot, your, your views cannot be defended at that point. I, I, there's no defense for you. That's why cowards get thrown in the lake of fire first in the judgment. There's just no defense for that. Can't have cowardice. So it's where we are. Get used to being called racist by people who actually are those things or don't have a country. Those are your options to you, I guess. I don't know what other options you have. So either don't care what people who hate you and we're never going to approve of you and would cheer if you were shot dead, don't care what they think or care and lose your ability to think, those are your options. There aren't any other options, not the options I would prefer, but those are the options that we have. So choose ye this day. You guys have any thoughts on that?

[C]

You know, it's because of all of that that I'm concerned that what we thought might be just a divine opportunity, the American 250th birthday celebration here with this, what we've talked about on the show today, it may be the opposite. We may finally have got to pay our comeuppance for being the ingrates we have been. And God may use this thing as the opposite of what we hope for. And I mean, if this early thing with the musicians is any sign this could be very dispiriting. Americans are just mailing it in and I that's apparently how we're starting this.

[B]

It's not a great sign

[A]

because there's

[B]

a little, little bit of time left. What does our colleague Oran McIntyre say all the time? The side that wants to be left alone is always going to be beaten by the side who wants to win.

[A]

I just want to be left alone. Has lost every history book ever written

[B]

in all time and there's way too many. You want to talk about the culture, Todd, that is the overriding culture of right wing America is leave me alone. And that's just not gonna, that's just not gonna cut it. It's not gonna cut it.

[A]

Have you noticed that all these singers pulling out are all using the same statement? What does that tell you? Completely coordinated. The whole thing is. That's what it tells you.

[C]

And they keep telling and embarrassing for them, but it's for us.

[A]

Yeah. They keep telling us we were misled without telling us how they were misled. None of them. This. They all have the same statement. How often do you think Brett Michaels and Martina McBride do you think have chatted over the years? Because I'm going to guess it's a pretty low number. Right?

[C]

I'm sure they're in a bridge club together or something, Steve.

[A]

Sure. Of course they are. Yeah. More in a moment.

[D]

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[C]

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[A]

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[B]

You bet.

[C]

Yes.

[A]

All right. For decades, child predators permeated the priesthood because it had become a safe space for them with access and authority over children. Today, child predators have permeated the teaching profession for the same reason, access and authority over children. The church used to move predators from one location to another if they were accused of abusing children. Robbie Starbuck has reposted a tweet from Jack Unheard claiming the LA school district does the same. It includes a clip from the triggered podcast Crooks go where the money is and child predators go where the children are. Thoughts on that?

[C]

Yeah, well here my success in my own school district and pointing out my kids ex school district pointing out their constantly breaking their own policy, the degree to which they were moral reprobates, et cetera, et cetera. Ultimately because I stood alone, I couldn't let my children be subject to that and we had to get out of there. But I had a ton of success they had to ratchet up, you know, getting the police involved and trying to intimidate me. Not because I was a joke there, because I got a lot of things that done and one of the things done as I pointed out how nefarious the Gay Straight alliance groomer there was. And but so even though she outlasted me there, she ultimately ended up her name is Sandy Barker and here's how she was protected in this exact way. She was allowed to resign mid year which if you understand teacher contracts, that's not how this works. That's not how any of this works. You don't just resign, but because the degree of stability that is demanded from those one year contracts and who's going to replace you in the middle of the year, she was allowed to, but at the same time she was permanently suspended from X. So there's no reason why they're not telling you why. Meanwhile, they're sending the police to come to my kids soccer banquet to look over me. This letter writer has it exactly right. I have no idea where Sandy Barker is now, but it wouldn't shock me in the least if she's teaching somewhere else.

[B]

Yeah. You guys remember the story out of our backyard as well, out of Atlantic, where the parents showed up to the school board meeting. They tried to move the meeting around to avoid the parents confronting them about, I think, was it the school counselor? And it was known that at a previous stop he had maybe had inappropriate relationships or was just acting like a predator. At a previous school as well, this was known. Somehow this got out in the community and so they showed up demanding accountability. I think that guy has been fired or arrested now. But yeah, I mean, that makes a lot of sense. And looking at it from a macro perspective with the conversation that we've had multiple times today, whether it's college football, where's the limiting principle? Whether it's immigration, Muslim immigration into this country, where's the limiting principle? Where's the limiting principle for almost anything of real importance in our culture? What is that limiting principle? What are the guardrails? The reason I say don't end up in a ditch is because if you've ended up in a ditch, you're probably doing community service for something that you've done wrong. That's bad. You're in the ditch because you've gone off the road. That's also bad. You're in the ditch because you slid off the. It's always bad. And when a culture, a country, a society lacks guardrails. Hey, no. Islam is not compatible with Western civilization. You can't come here, millions of Muslims, that's a guardrail. We lack that right now. When it comes to sexual ethic. Are there any guardrails right now?

[A]

Just consent.

[B]

Just consent.

[A]

And that's even fading. Yeah.

[B]

And so of course, yes, that is I think probably some form of a law of supply and demand there. Of course the predators are gonna go where the kids are. And especially you're gonna see this more in a culture, in a society without guardrails on basically anything, folks, if know

[C]

what we used to call guardrails. Men.

[A]

Well, preach on that. Here's the, here's the thing. You just simply can't trust people who believe in abortion to care about your kids. If we're going to stay from the very, from the most nascent stages that children exist as a construct manifestation or vessel for adult feelings and desires, then you're just going to maintain that all the way through. That's all. And even if, even, even if for a while. Steve, are you saying that everybody who's for abortion is okay with your kids getting abused? No, what I'm saying is they can't be trusted to do something about it because their own worldview comes into conflict. By what moral standard would they say it's bad? Well, the child can't consent. Okay, so. But you can consent on your own to murder your kid. So why can't another adult just consent to. When your child's ready for sexual contact, then if you're wrong from the beginning on this point, you're probably going to be wrong all the way through. You're going to lack the wherewithal and the resolve to do something about it. And then when you realize that, and you realize it exposes your own worldview, then you have to make your choice whether to abandon that worldview or to again decide that the children are a manifestation, vessel and vehicle for adult desires. And you don't desire your worldview to be exposed. And so you're the Sandy Barker that Todd just described. We never escape our own worldview. The church got into this position because it believed it could have celibate homosexuals in the priesthood and then surrounded those celibate homosexuals with a bunch of pubescent young of age, pubescently but still impressionable young men. That's what happened. They gave up their own standard, their own means by which they could say no. And then when you see what the, with the outcome of that is, you have a choice to make, which is to come out and repent and own it or bury it. Because overall the, the, the, the level of damage done here, it just better for, you know, one kid to get molested without justice than an entire movement to perish. This is what went on with the, the minister in Dallas whose name escapes me, who essentially groomed one of his elder's daughters in the 80s and got caught years later. Same thing. It's always the same thing. Once we, as once we assent to the fact children have no value outside of their value to us, we will continue with that standard. Let's go here next to Daniel Tudor. This is kind of fascinating. You rightly cited the expert strategic play that Ken Paxton executed in his primary race in Texas. I was hoping you could maybe war games, other scenarios that you would recommend as an advisor for different causes and campaigns over the years and, and maybe pulling off the same kind of deft move for their respective careers. For example, let's invade this magnificent cranial wall of yours when it comes to JD Vance and what to do with the increasingly problematic association with the like of Tucker Carlson advance of the 2028 race. Well, this one's actually pretty simple. Now, simple is not easy. Can be, but not always. Donald Trump is going to pick the nominee in 2028. Donald Trump is. That's simple to know. What's not easy is Trump is a very mercurial fellow and it's kind of hard to game plan today exactly where he will be in his priorities on such things two years from now. Well, really one year from now, this 2026. I keep forgetting that. All right, so we're really talking about much of this primary is going to be heading into full swing about this time next year. So what J.D. vance has to ascertain Trump at this point has excommunicated Tucker Carlson. That's pretty clear. And I mean, Tucker's responding with calling Trump everything from the Antichrist, you know, to, you know, just choose your Bill Kristol talking point. That's essentially Tucker's take on Donald Trump at this point. What is not known. And if I now you. But you could know if you worked in the White House. We don't. What is not known is how much of that has to be transposed, has been transposed to J.D. vance. I don't know the answer to that question. People within my circle, though I do know it's trans. It's, it's projected quite a bit. It's done quite a bit of damage. But those circles, while prominent and influential, can't hold Donald Trump's jock strap. So the primary is really for an audience of one. There will appear to be a contested primary for as long as that audience of one does not intercede. And then the moment that he does intercede, said primary is concluded. Those are just the facts, Jack. You may not like. It doesn't matter. Okay, you're gonna hear this a lot more from me as I get older. We have to live in the world that we have, And you have to determine what things in that world because it's a fallen world, right? So that could also be used to compromise and all kind of myriad of destructive and defiling ways. So you have to ask yourself, what can I participate in that doesn't cause me to defile myself? What can I legitimately change? There's a realistic chance I could change and then just live with the rest. That's Just the reality of a fallen world. So Trump is king. And kings tend to pick their heirs, you know, and Trump won't cease being king, by the way, when he's term limited. Retired kings are only. Don't. Kings aren't. Retired kings reign until they're dead. Not to mention someone who has perhaps been in the spotlight more than any American in the history of this country. So this isn't going to just be, you know, Trump, you know, golfing quietly. He's going to have a lot to say every single day. So if you're J.D. vance, which you have to ascertain, is how much damage has Tucker done with me and Trump? How much is that? How much. How much is the damage that Tucker has done with himself and Trump damaged me? I don't know the answer to that. It might be nothing. It might be a ton. I have no way of knowing that. But then the answer to that, the solution is not simple, because you could so overdo it that Trump sees you as weak. Trump hates being around weak people. Ron DeSantis told me a story once about him and Trump golfing. And I know, I still know there's a handful of. Of influencers online on both ends who still think It's October of 2023. But Trump and DeSantis ended this thing literally about three minutes after DeSantis dropped out. One of the first people Trump called when he was in the hospital after he got shot was Ron DeSantis. So one of the myriads of times that they have been golfing together since this primary, and they're having a great time, and Ron tells me, decides one day he's going to ask Trump a question that he's long been curious about, which is, hey, I was the only person that was even remotely competitive with you in that primary, and yet we're back, you know, to being friends like it never happened. But Mike Pompeo, man, you are just dog cussing him. What's going on? Trump's reaction, or Trump's answer, was, that guy went after me for a year and a half, came at me hard, said he was gonna run for president, and then when it came time, though, he didn't have the balls to challenge me head on. I've got no respect for him. I don't want. I don't want such, you know, what's around me. Get him out. You at least had the balls to take me on. I respect it. So if you're J.D. vance, you can't, like, go so far in repudiating Tucker that Trump's like, yeah, that's kind of a schmuck. He can't send him to negotiate with the Chinese. He just, he wants it too bad. But you also can't sit there and pretend like this entire thing didn't happen either, because I can tell you within the evangelical circles I run in, and we will dominate the voting process in Iowa and South Carolina, and there is a realistic shot that Trump will let this thing stay competitive, at least through an Iowa, South Carolina. It's also possible Trump will endorse by this time next year and just cancel the primary altogether. We don't know. No one knows. Probably Trump doesn't know. So there's a ratio there. There's a seesaw, a teeter totter. You got a balance that on one hand, you've got to make it very clear that you understand the King has excommunicated this heretic. And this heretic used to be your friend. You need to make that very plain to both the King and his loyal subjects in those activist classes that you recognize this, particularly as this heretic gets more and more heretical. I don't see any sign of Tucker slowing down. If anything, he'll be doing call. He'll be getting on a prayer mat and doing calls to prayer on the show here by this time next year. That's way more likely than Tucker saying, I have sinned against you. Way more likely. But you also can't make it so obvious and so groveling and so opportunistic either, that Trump looks at you and says, hey, junior, you're not ready for the big chair. You've way overplayed your hand here because sitting in the big chair does require. Say what you want about Donald Trump. He's exhausting a ton of political capital on Iran. This is something he really believes. He's exhausted more political capital on this than he ever did the wall, he ever has anything else. He's approaching George W. Bush 2008 level approval numbers. He really believes in this. All great leaders need a hill willing to die on. And Trump is not going to hand his scepter over to somebody who is really just desperate to get elected and has no hills to die on. So there's a balance there. And I'm not in the White House. I don't know the personal dynamics there. I don't have conversations with those people there. But from the outside looking in, that's. I think those are kind of the war games. You've got to balance out. Guys, I'll give you the last word on that or anything else. Floor is yours.

[C]

JD has been as deft as I think a human being can possibly be up to this point in this situation. I mean, look at how we've addressed Tucker, our respect for him, our begrudging concerns over time. And not all of the three of us held the same degree of skepticism at the same time. We worked it out. When and if we need to start worrying about this with J.D. you'll hear it on this show without apology. But to me, I just. The longer this goes on and his ability to do his job and not obsess over the next election, he just grows in my estimation.

[A]

Agree with that, too.

[B]

Just a general word about imperfect people in an imperfect world. If you don't accept that, you're going to end up with something akin to Trump derangement Syndrome. If you do accept that, that doesn't mean, though, that you're accepting no standards. That just means you can control what you try to try to control what you control, affect the outcomes you can try to affect. But if you don't get what you want, then that's time to kick your sandals and move on. But that's a good word.

[A]

Have a great weekend, everyone. Go hard. Romans 8:28.