BOMBSHELL: Does the DOJ FINALLY Know What Time It Is? | Guest: Dr. Stephen Meyer | 4/29/26

Summary

Steve Deace Show – Episode Summary

Title: BOMBSHELL: Does the DOJ FINALLY Know What Time It Is?
Date: April 29, 2026
Host: Steve Deace
Network: Blaze Podcast Network
Guest: Dr. Stephen Meyer

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Overview

This episode dives headfirst into major developments at the Department of Justice, headline-making indictments, a seismic Supreme Court decision, and a powerful congressional exchange on abortion. Steve and his panelists also discuss the cultural significance of King Charles’ visit for America’s 250th Independence anniversary, updates on Iran, and preview Dr. Stephen Meyer's new documentary on intelligent design. The overall tone, as always, is acerbic, unapologetically conservative, and energized by recent political “wins.”

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DOJ Bombshells and Signs of Life (00:01–02:04)

Discussion Points:

• Multiple DOJ indictments dropped, including charges against David Morens (former Fauci adviser), ex-FBI Director James Comey, and the Southern Poverty Law Center (SPLC).
• Steve calls these signs of "possible life at the DOJ" after a perceived period of inaction and ineffective leadership under Pam Bondi.

Notable Moments:

• James Comey indictment details: Social media post using code "8647" interpreted as a veiled threat against President Trump. Charges include willfully making threats against the President and transmitting threatening communications.
• Quote (Brandon Gill, Rep., 01:12): "Both of these counts carry a maximum term of imprisonment of 10 years."
• DOJ also cracks down on COVID fraud and SPLC for funding the KKK; Somali daycares raided for fraud in Minnesota.
• Steve and the team express cautious optimism about real movement on long-standing conservative complaints.

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The State of the Union & Supreme Court Ruling (02:04–02:40; 13:46–19:15)

King Charles’ Visit:

• President Trump justifies the British monarch’s visit, tying it to American heritage and moral courage derived from Britain.
• Quote (Aaron McIntyre, 02:21): "Before we ever proclaimed our independence, Americans carried within us the rarest of gifts, moral courage. And it came from a small but mighty kingdom from across the sea."

Iran and Strait of Hormuz:

• Trump posts that Iran is facing internal collapse and needs the Strait of Hormuz reopened; Japanese and LNG tankers make historic passes, suggesting shifting geopolitics.

Supreme Court’s Racial Gerrymandering Decision:

• BREAKING: SCOTUS rules 6–3 against racial gerrymandering, opening the door for red states—especially in the South—to redraw maps and potentially flip 20+ congressional seats.
• Steve & panel see this as not just a technical win but a direct assault on what they view as Democratic “systemic stealing” of elections.
• Quote (Steve Dace, 17:32): "Donald Trump should use this and rub John Thune's nose in it. The same undergirding principles of why this happened is why the SAVE act should pass."

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Iconic Congressional Moment: Abortion Debate Goes Viral (03:34–06:24)

Brandon Gill vs. Reproductive Rights Expert:

• Gill methodically describes graphic abortion procedures, pressing the expert on which she prefers; expert sticks to pro-choice framing, refusing to name a preference.
• Gill labels the procedures "barbaric and evil," intentionally making opponents uncomfortable with clinical descriptions.

Quote (Brandon Gill, 03:34):
"You're an advocate for abortion, for abortion policy. What's your favorite type of abortion?"

Quote (Aaron McIntyre after segment, 06:27):
"That is the greatest single question I have ever seen asked in Congress."

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DOJ as a Political Game-Changer (11:54–29:57)

Pam Bondi’s Exit and Todd Blanche’s Rise:

• The team reflects on Trump’s disastrous appointment of Pam Bondi, crediting new acting AG Todd Blanche for a “dramatic upgrade” and visible action.
• Steve admits surprise at the pace of change, noting many conservatives doubted things would ever shift.

Discussion Points:

• Concerns about practicality—real prosecutions require strategic venue selection (e.g., why Comey was indicted in NC, not DC).
• Importance of “personnel is policy” in actualizing conservative priorities.
• The segment is peppered with humor and self-congratulation about being proven right regarding both Bondi and DOJ strategy.

Quote (Steve Dace, 24:10):
"I just want James Comey perp walked. I don't really care what it's for. You're not going to get the perp walk we deserve in Washington, D.C.… You might get it there [in North Carolina]."

Quote (Aaron McIntyre, 26:04):
"It also proves I'm right about this. We're not a nation of laws and we never have been. We are a nation of political will and we always will be."

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Pop Culture & Intelligent Design – Guest: Dr. Stephen Meyer (32:28–45:11)

Dr. Stephen Meyer Interview:

• Meyer introduces his new film “The Story of Everything,” a documentary arguing for intelligent design using contemporary scientific evidence.

Core topics:

• How the origins of the universe and life point to a transcendent cause.
• Mainstream science’s admission of ignorance (“we do not know when or why the universe began”—NY’s Natural History Museum).
• Carl Sagan and Neil deGrasse Tyson’s materialism vs. the significance of intelligent causation.
• The persistence of meaninglessness in scientific culture and how Meyer’s film provides hope for meaning due to scientific evidence of design.

Notable Quotes:

• Dr. Meyer (34:58): "We think we know that the universe had a beginning...but we don't know what caused it, at least from a scientific or materialistic point of view."
• Dr. Meyer (36:49): "The so-called death of God in science and philosophy has resulted in a kind of nihilism and hopelessness...we hope this film shows there's no need to embrace that nihilism."
• Dr. Meyer (41:32): "...in science we often infer what we cannot see in order to explain what we can see...Why is it illegitimate to posit an unobservable creative intelligence when we are in fact seeing the distinctive attributes or hallmarks of intelligent activity, in particular inside living cells...?"

Steve & Panel’s Reaction:

• Praise for the film’s scientific approach, intent to force a real intellectual debate, and visual quality.
• Anticipation that establishment science will either attack the movie or pretend it doesn’t exist, which is seen as a sign of its effectiveness.

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Panel Reactions, Humor, and Culture (45:17–62:45)

Notable Moments:

• Panel jokes about recurring inside references, podcast rivalries, and show culture.
• Segments include “Buy, Sell, or Hold,” where they riff on political memes and hypotheticals, exemplifying the show’s snarky, irreverent tone.

Quote (Todd Erzin, 62:31):
"One of the greatest observations about me you ever made was many years ago when you said you have the palate of a sixth grader. And you're right, I do pretty much."

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Daniel Horowitz Segment: Vaccine Indictments & Worldview (80:40–96:44)

Focus:

• Daniel Horowitz returns to discuss the larger meaning of the Fauci/Morens “scamdemic” indictments, exposing the origin and purpose of gain-of-function research.
• Draws parallels to past lab-linked viruses (RSV & HIV) and the broader transhumanist/“God-complex” motivations of the research elite.
• Suggests that indictments should drive complete systemic reform, not just individual punishment.

Key Insights:

• Modern vaccination research is inseparable from gain-of-function. The whole system—public, private, and international—needs scrutiny.
• Many virologists and scientists are driven by fear of death and a desire to usurp God's creative role (“to perfect God's creation”) rather than serve humanity humbly.

Quotes:

• Daniel Horowitz (91:42): "There really are a class of people in science and technology that believe they're godlike and believe that they're put on this earth to perfect God's creation."
• Daniel Horowitz (95:24): "God doesn’t create things that are that transmissible but have a high IFR unless there's man-made genocidal intent involved in it…"

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Closing Thoughts (96:31–96:44)

Steve & Panel Summation:

• Science without humility or spiritual grounding becomes hubris—scientists try to "prevent the curse" of mortality, not merely alleviate suffering.
• Recurring theme: If you forget that "God is God and I am not," disaster follows—reflecting a conservative, Biblically-rooted worldview underpinning the entire episode.

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Key Timestamps

• 00:01–02:04: DOJ indictments and King Charles' visit discussed
• 03:34–06:24: Rep. Brandon Gill’s viral abortion grilling
• 11:54–29:57: DOJ shakeup, Bondi v. Blanche analysis
• 13:46–19:15: SCOTUS bans racial gerrymandering
• 32:28–45:11: Dr. Stephen Meyer on intelligent design & film
• 80:40–96:44: Daniel Horowitz on COVID indictments and worldview

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Tone & Takeaways

The show’s tone is biting, irreverent, gleeful about recent conservative victories, and unapologetically critical of both the establishment GOP and the left. Major insights coalesce around the ideas that decisive personnel changes matter more than policy alone and that worldview—especially one rooted in God or the lack thereof—drives both politics and science. The panel’s humor, delivered at a rapid clip, mixes with genuine intellectual exchange, making the episode both entertaining and densely informative for listeners.

Transcript

[Steve Dace]

It's the Steve Day show. And here's what happened while we were away, brought to you by stringing together some DOJ wins. After the news dropped about former Fauci adviser David Morens being indicted for concealing or destroying federal records, the Department of Justice wasn't done yesterday. Former FBI Director James Comey is being indicted as well, stemming from his social media post with the not so cryptic 8647 message, a not so secret code for calling for the assassination of brutal President Trump. Here's acting Attorney General Todd Blanche.

[Aaron McIntyre]

I think it's fair to say that

[Congressman Brandon Gill]

threatening the life of anybody is dangerous.

[Dr. Stephen Meyer]

Today, a grand jury sitting in the

[Congressman Brandon Gill]

Eastern District of North Carolina returned an indictment against James Comey on two counts.

[Aaron McIntyre]

The first count is that honor about

[Congressman Brandon Gill]

May 15th of last year, he knowingly

[Dr. Stephen Meyer]

and willfully making a threat to take

[Aaron McIntyre]

the life of and to inflict bodily

[Congressman Brandon Gill]

harm upon the president of the United States. Count two, same day, May 15, 2025, that the defendant, James Comey knowingly and willfully transmitting in interstate commerce a communication

[Dr. Stephen Meyer]

that contained a threat to kill the

[Congressman Brandon Gill]

president of the United States.

[Aaron McIntyre]

Both of these counts carry a maximum

[Congressman Brandon Gill]

term of imprisonment of 10 years.

[Steve Dace]

Also yesterday we learned federal agents carried out 22 search warrants in Minnesota stemming from the ongoing fraud investigation. One facility targeted by the warrants, the Quality Leering Center. Those of you keeping score at home since former AG Pam Bondi left her post, here's what the DOJ has done. The Southern Poverty Law center has been indicted for sending funds to the kkk. Fauci adviser David Moren's charged over Covid's cover up. Somalian daycares raided in Minnesota. Comey charged for the 8647 threat and other measures. Captain possible life signs, signs of life at the DOJ Ind. Also in Washington, King Charles arrived. To raucous applause from the no kings crowd in Congress. President Trump explains why the king of England is visiting 250 years after we kicked the British out.

[Aaron McIntyre]

Honoring the British king might seem an ironic beginning to our celebration of 250 years of American independence. But in fact, no tribute could be more appropriate.

[Daniel Horowitz]

Long before Americans had a nation or

[Aaron McIntyre]

a constitution, we first had a culture, a character and a creed. Before we ever proclaimed our independence, Americans carried within us the rarest of gifts, moral courage. And it came from a small but mighty kingdom from across the sea.

[Steve Dace]

On the topic of Iran, President Trump posted on Truth Social. Iran just informed us they are in a state of collapse. They want us to open the Hormuz strait as soon as possible as they try to figure out their leadership situation, which I believe they will be able to do. Meanwhile, at least one Japanese oil tanker, and a pretty big one at that, was able to pass through the Strait of Hormuz in the last 48 hours in what could be a positive harbinger of things to come. That Japanese tanker did not use Iran's typically prescribed method for passing through the strait. It's believed to be the first Japanese tanker carrying Saudi oil to make it through Hormuz since the outbreak of the war. In addition, the first large LNG container passed through Hormuz as well in recent days, also believed to be a first Back at home and in Congress, Representative Brandon Gill of Texas produced one of the most astounding few minutes from the floor of Congress in recent memory during his questioning of an expert in so called reproductive rights law.

[Congressman Brandon Gill]

You're an advocate for abortion, for abortion policy. What's your favorite type of abortion?

[Aaron McIntyre]

I am an advocate for patients having access to the full realm of reproductive health care.

[Congressman Brandon Gill]

But do you have a preferred method of abortion that you like?

[Aaron McIntyre]

I do not.

[Congressman Brandon Gill]

Let me read through a couple different methods and I want to get your take on how much you like these. The first type is called a suction abortion. This is when the cervix is dilated and a strong suction, 29 times the power of a household vacuum cleaner, tears the baby's body apart and sucks it through the hose into a container. Do you prefer that method?

[Aaron McIntyre]

I stand by my former testimony.

[Congressman Brandon Gill]

That sounds kind of gross, doesn't it? Sounds pretty gruesome. Do you agree? It does to me.

[Aaron McIntyre]

I stand by how I answered your question fully and accurately.

[Congressman Brandon Gill]

Okay. What about this one? This one is called dilation and curettage. After dilation of the cervix, a sharp looped knife is inserted into the uterus. The baby's body is cut into pieces and extracted, often by suction. Do you prefer that method?

[Aaron McIntyre]

What I believe we are here to

[Dr. Stephen Meyer]

talk about today is the Face Act.

[Aaron McIntyre]

We are not here to talk about.

[Congressman Brandon Gill]

I'm asking you. You're a pro abortion advocate. I'm asking if you prefer the delation and curitage method.

[Aaron McIntyre]

I am access to reproductive health care advocate.

[Congressman Brandon Gill]

You don't want to talk about abortion itself. Why is that?

[Aaron McIntyre]

I would prefer to talk about the reason that the committee called the hearings.

[Congressman Brandon Gill]

Is it because it's uncomfortable to talk about? I would prefer it should be uncomfortable.

[Aaron McIntyre]

I would prefer if you would let me finish my statement to talk about the freedom of access to clinic entrances

[Dr. Stephen Meyer]

act, which is what I was thinking

[Congressman Brandon Gill]

about what that access gets. How about this one? It's called dilation and evacuation. Forceps are inserted into the uterus, grabbing and twisting the baby's body to dismember him or her. If the head is too large, it must be crushed in order to remove it. Do you prefer that method?

[Aaron McIntyre]

I would prefer to talk about the reason the hearing was called and the basis of my expert testimony.

[Congressman Brandon Gill]

It's uncomfortable to hear. This isn't is. I think it is because it's barbaric and evil. How about this one? It's called the saline injection. It's when a 20% salt solution is injected through the mother's abdomen into the baby's amniotic fluid. The baby's skin is burned off, the baby ingests the solution and diesel of salt poisoning, dehydration and hemorrhaging of the brain. Do you prefer that method?

[Aaron McIntyre]

I would prefer to talk about the subject of the hearing.

[Congressman Brandon Gill]

This is the subject of the hearing. This is about protests outside of abortion clinics. I'm asking you about abortion.

[Aaron McIntyre]

I stand by my prior testimony. Okay.

[Congressman Brandon Gill]

I wouldn't want to talk about this either if I were you because it is barbaric and evil.

[Steve Dace]

That'll do. And that's what happened while we were away.

[Aaron McIntyre]

That is the greatest single question I have ever seen asked in Congress. We'll have more on that. Pam Bondi, an absolutely terrible hack, totally confirmed that and more next on the Steve Day Show. And greetings. Happy Wednesday. Welcome to the Steve Day show here live and on demand on Blaze TV, radio and podcast alongside Aaron McIntyre and Todderson. I am Steve Dase and we have a jam packed show lined up for you today. Dr. Stephen Meyer is going to join us. We didn't have a pop culture Tuesday yesterday because it's going to be Pop Culture Wednesday here at the bottom of the hour. He's got a new movie out I just had a chance to see coming out this weekend called the Story of Everything. Signs of Intelligent Design in the design of the universe. So we're going to get into that conversation with him coming up at the bottom of the hour. Of course, it's Wednesday so we will play buy, sell or hold with your submissions. Top of next hour. Get through as many of those as we can. And what remains we will deal with in the overtime. And then the return of our prophet of woe and lamentation, Daniel Horowitz. And him and I, we might actually do some celebrating with the very first ever indictments from the scandemic happening yesterday. Him and I might take a bit of a victory lap on that. So we'll get into that and more coming up on today's show. First though, a reminder. We are brought to you by our friends over at Angel Studios. And yes, I know about the controversy surrounding this movie, but that's why you go see a film. So I'm gonna go see it this weekend myself. It's one of my all time favorite stories and I know, I know what members of the cast and stuff are saying, but I also know Angel Studios. I will be very surprised. I think we have seen a trend in recent years of left wing artists overselling how left wing their content is. And we've noticed, noted this a few times, Todd.

[Todd Erzin]

Right, right.

[Aaron McIntyre]

Overselling to their, you know, minions on social media how left wing their own content is in order to, you know, cover their backside. And then when the content comes out you're like what was the big deal here? I'd be stunned if Angel Studios produced and distributed a film that took Animal Farm and completely co opted as anti capitalist. I'd be stunned. Now if it happens, what do you think I'm going to say on Monday after I see the film?

[Todd Erzin]

You'll be honest.

[Aaron McIntyre]

I'll be honest. But I, I would be stunned if that occurred. Right. So Animal Farm comes out on May the first. Tickets available now at angel.comanimalfarm that's angel.com animal farm recommended for ages 11 and up. One of the great English speaking works in the history of western literature in my opinion is Animal Farm. Now keep in mind, just like a bunch of you are freaked out about having a bunch of left wing actors do Animal Farm for Angel Studios on their side of the street, they're freaked out that a bunch of, a bunch of their actors are doing Animal Farm for a right wing studio. You see what I'm saying? All right. So I'll be stunned if angel ankle grabbed on this film. I'll be stunned. But if they did, I'll tell you on Monday after I see it. All right. Angel.com Animal Farm recommended for ages 11 and up. It is an incredible story. Looking forward to this. Also looking forward to the fact that we are out and the timing could not be better with episode six of the COVID Up. It's the investigative docu series that we've been doing here for over a year at the Blaze. Looking back on the scamdemic and its origins and more. Episode 6 is out now go to fauci coverup.com days use the code lab leak for $40 off a full subscription to Blaze TV so you do not miss this episode. And you can go back and rewatch or watch for the first time all the previous episodes leading up to this one as well. Fauci Coverup.com days Code Lab Leak for $40 off your annual subscription Ablaze TV with Code Lab Leak at fauci coverup.com/dace all right, let's get to what is in Aaron's montage and let's let's start with the questioning from Brandon Gill because I want to spend the rest of the time on what's going on at the DOJ right now and maybe why and what that means. It is the greatest question I have ever seen asked in Congress ever. And this comes on the heels of it was about a month, month and a half ago we had another Texas congressman on who had done a great job deconstructing a leftist within him in her testimony as well. By the way, he came up and you know, I'm having a senior moment. I cannot remember his name.

[Todd Erzin]

No. Can I.

[Aaron McIntyre]

Right. Because he came up and introduced himself. He came to my chat for a conservative partnership, partnership institute in D.C. a week. A week. A week or so ago he came and for the chat, Michael Cloud. Thank you. And reintroduced himself in person. Got to talk to him for a little bit. So, yeah, I don't know. I don't want to flirt with optimism here,

[Steve Dace]

but it just a step back from the top of the bridge.

[Aaron McIntyre]

Yes.

[Steve Dace]

One step back.

[Aaron McIntyre]

Yes. It does kind of feel like

[Daniel Horowitz]

if

[Aaron McIntyre]

we can just hold the rope for a little longer, There's some promise in the next generation. It does kind of feel like that. Do you sense that, too? If we can just hold the rope for a little bit longer.

[Todd Erzin]

I don't care about the feeling. I just care about as we do

[Aaron McIntyre]

on the show, I'm in my feelings right now. So I do.

[Todd Erzin]

I just care about what's true. That's not a question. That's just a statement. You were elected to Congress. Pick your moments and fire everything. That was just telling everybody in the world for everybody to see. This is what abortion is.

[Aaron McIntyre]

Right? Right.

[Todd Erzin]

Why do otherwise if you're there?

[Aaron McIntyre]

Well, except we didn't really see the older generation ever do that.

[Steve Dace]

Yeah.

[Aaron McIntyre]

We haven't really seen frankly, our, you and I's generation do much of that.

[Steve Dace]

Tell yourself 20 years ago. Let's just look, go look up a list of Congress members, Republican congressmen and women from 2006. Did you see Any of them doing what they did, what Brandon Gill did. Now, that is not to say, hey, it's time to rest on our laurels and get complacent and get comfortable. No, far from it. When the left expands the Overton Window, what is their first reaction? Now, let's just sit back and let the Republicans know. Their reaction is press the advantage.

[Aaron McIntyre]

Yep.

[Steve Dace]

Not saying that necessarily we have an advantage, but at least rhetorically, at least in that realm, this is far different, a far different overton window than 20 years ago.

[Aaron McIntyre]

Yeah, I don't disagree with that at all. I don't.

[Todd Erzin]

It didn't happen ultimately because of emotional weakness by those who claim the faith.

[Dr. Stephen Meyer]

Amen.

[Todd Erzin]

Gil did not. He just. I don't care. Yep, that's being a man right there.

[Aaron McIntyre]

Don't disagree at all. And this ties into a story that broke just within about 30 minutes ago. So Aaron had his montage already completed. All right, and that story is the Supreme Court ruling 6 to 3 today against racial gerrymandering. Now, it didn't go so far as to outright just blanketly say they're all null and void from this time forward, but the way that the ruling is worded certainly is. I mean, if your red state, particularly in the south, is not teed up now to essentially get rid of every racially gerrymandered district, then you kind of just know where you stand on things.

[Todd Erzin]

Have they been given a permission structure? Steve,

[Aaron McIntyre]

I see what you did there. I see you. All right, but yeah, they were. And, you know, I did a little research this morning. I didn't have a ton of time because by the time I got back from my steps and, you know, I've still got to get here, and this ruling didn't give me a lot of time. So I, I, I spent about 20 minutes researching this this morning, trying to get an idea what, what really, what kind of, what kind of seats could this really yield? Not total either, but yield. All right, so what's the net? All right, I'm going to tell you. I think Conservatively, the number's 20.

[Todd Erzin]

Conservatively, that's most everybody else is agreeing with you.

[Aaron McIntyre]

And I think, I think I've, I, in some estimates that I researched, thought the number could push 30. Okay, but conservatively, maybe. Conservatively. How about reasonably? All right, conservatively is probably about 18. Reasonably, I think you're looking at about 20 seats that could be flipped as soon as this very cycle. And predominantly most of them in Southern states, probably about 75, 80% of them in Southern states could be flipped by getting rid of racial gerrymandering, which would radically alter the electing and electioneering paradigm in this country. And if we're not going to have people criminally prosecuted as we wanted on the stealing of elections, well, what you could do is systematically change the way that we go about actually doing elections so they can't steal it in ways they did before.

[Dr. Stephen Meyer]

Right.

[Aaron McIntyre]

There's the systemic stealing, like racial gerrymandering. I'm sorry, it's not Jim Crow when it's not the era we're in. It's fascinating as I get older now and I go back and I watch old sporting events and shows to be, to feel nostalgic and the same things were being said 40, 50 years ago when I was a little kid, 40 years ago when I was just becoming a teenager, all this like, so, so we've had no progress. Nothing's changed. That's a total scam. Right. If you want to argue that this was needed to some degree as a, as a, as a counterman to the, to the Jim Crow south, the segregationist south, well, that ended 50, 60 years ago. We're not in that country anymore. There's no need for a single one of these. There's just not. And I would argue it's racist. The racism is actually having them. So if we get rid of that same day voting, the kind of stuff that's in the SAVE act, and you would at least, you know, close the barn door before any more hay gets out by making it very difficult for them to do, moving forward, whatever it was that they tried to do in 2020. And I think to some degree, maybe even in 2020. 2 thoughts on that, Aaron, like you wanted to chime in. Go ahead.

[Steve Dace]

Yeah, so I, I think that means the governors of Mississippi, Louisiana, I can't remember if Louisiana has a rep. Governor. I think they do right now.

[Aaron McIntyre]

Tate Reeves.

[Steve Dace]

Yeah. So Mississippi, that's Tate Reeves, the Republican Louisiana governor, the governor of Alabama, Georgia's governor. Let's go, let's go. Florida's already off the mat. Let's go. Let's get this done as fast as possible.

[Aaron McIntyre]

100%.

[Todd Erzin]

This also is about first principles. And Donald Trump should use this and rub John Thune's nose in it. The same undergirding principles of why this happened is why the SAVE act should pass.

[Aaron McIntyre]

Well, these tie together on another front too. All right. Because at today's ruling, if you get rid of racial gerrymandering, I mean that, that is a clear and present danger to the Democratic Party's political power structure

[Daniel Horowitz]

and

[Aaron McIntyre]

the, whatever you thought the odds are if they win the midterms this year that they're going to nuke the filibuster next year. They're higher today. I don't know how much higher. But if, if you thought they were 1% yesterday, they're at least 2% today with this ruling chip price of the same thing today. All right, and so that, that directly ties into this. We're running out of excuses to not at least go back to the original definition of filibuster that we had for 200 years. At least go back to that. All right, we're running out of excuses for why not to do that because the you, the reactions on their side are all good. Well, there's going to be two reactions on their side. One is we're just gonna have to shoot more of you. That'll be one reaction. And that's not even a joke. No, we're just gonna have to shoot more of you. That's not even meant, that's not in the least bit meant to be. Tongue in cheek. That wasn't meant to be a punch line. No, just of, I mean, the matter of fact, that's the times in which we live. So we're gonna have to shoot more of you. And the second is we're gonna have to stack the court. And to do that, we're gonna have to nuke the filibuster. I mean, that's, that's gonna be a main talking point on their side now for the foreseeable future after this rule,

[Todd Erzin]

know what time it is.

[Aaron McIntyre]

Correct. And if, if by chance we're all wrong in our pessimism in the court were to rule our way on birthright citizenship, boy howdy. I mean, if we're going to get rid of, if we're going to get rid of racial gerrymandering and birthright citizenship, I mean, that's, you're kneecapping a lot of the, of the Democratic Party power structure in those two rulings. Now, I don't think we're going to get that ruling, but it hasn't come down yet. So the chances aren't zero.

[Todd Erzin]

Right?

[Aaron McIntyre]

Okay, they're not high, I don't think, but they're not zero. But this is how they'll react, which is, all right, we'll have to nuke the filibuster and stack the court then. All right, that's what they'll do. Or at least that's what they're going to say. They're Going to do what? They'll fall through on it. I don't know. But I don't know. I don't, I don't. I kind of like taking my chances when I have the power with the people. I like for them to do this stuff rather than, let's just not do this stuff, lose because we didn't do it, and then hope that the people that are enemies don't go as far as we fear. That's a parrot. That's a pretty crappy strategy. Thoughts?

[Todd Erzin]

Once again, that's the Gill strategy. You can just do things. Don't, don't care. Just don't care about anybody says win.

[Aaron McIntyre]

Which brings us to what's happening at doj. And I am going to take a victory lap because I did not, Did I not sit here and say the moment Pam Bondi was nominated that was a terrible nomination. Did I not say the entire time, Did I not say when we did the, the, the, the, the joint show here at the Blaze the night of the President's first joint congressional speech in February of 25. And that was the very day, that night of that speech was the very day they brought all the influencers in, including our own Liz Wheeler, and sold them this scam on the Epstein files. You remember that?

[Todd Erzin]

Of course.

[Aaron McIntyre]

And, and Glenn looked at me and said, all right, what do you think? I said, I don't know. You sure you want me to tell you what I really think? Yeah. I said, okay, we, we absolutely put a. Rom. A Romulan in the. In as Attorney General. A woman who spent her entire career in the GOP establishment loathing people like us. Who's in. And there's a group of these establishment hacks that have figured out that I can keep hacking my, the base as. And if I just go on Fox News and slobber on Donald Trump enough and he'll just overlook the whole thing and give me a job. A bunch of them have figured this out and that's how she got this job. She looked the part on Fox News and said the things about Trump that he wanted her to say, but she has sucked from the beginning. She's not been in any meaningful fight that's mattered ever. And she's from Florida. So I was not shocked, stunned at any of this. I'm, I'm shocked and stunned the President let this go on for as long as he did. Now what, what's, what, what is funny to me is in my circles, when Todd Blanche got named acting AG it was split right down the middle of My circles between. This will be a dramatic upgrade as this will just be more of the same. Well, this is a dramatic upgrade. All right, so if this is Todd Blanche trying to get the full time gig. All right, he's winning this tryout so far. Okay. And I mean that rundown that Aaron gave you, courtesy of N wokeness on X of everything that the DOJ has done since Pam Bondi left. I mean, you. That, that's. It goes to show you that the old Morton Blackwell, the man who founded the Leadership Institute in D.C. the Morton Blackwell line that personnel is policy is metaphysical certitude levels of truth, like the laws of motion and physics level truth in politics, personnel is policy. I saw the Democrats want to vote. I don't know how a minority does this, by the way, but they. They want to vote to hold her in contempt. I finally found something I agree with them on. I'm sure my reasons for wanting to hold Pam in contempt are probably different than theirs. Probably. But I've affirmative. I hold. Yes, I would vote. If I were in Congress, I would vote with the Democrats to affirmatively hold her in contempt. I have a lot of contempt, frankly, for Pam Bondi and her appointment. It was a disaster. We wasted a year. These are all things we could have been doing for the last year and not taking on the water and not risking dividing our base the way that we did. But the good news is we're doing them now. And I want to address a couple of complaints that I think are wrong. One complaint I've heard on the, the, the James Comey thing. Well, we want him. Go after him for his part with the FISA warrants because the signature's on them. All right? And going after Trump with the Russia collusion narrative and that hoax, I understand why you're thinking that, but where would that jury be seated in Washington, D.C. folks, if James Comey launched a cannonball at Donald Trump's face and hit it point blank, a D.C. jury would vote. Well, he needed killing. Am I even slightly exaggerating?

[Todd Erzin]

No, no.

[Aaron McIntyre]

Name me the DC Jury that's going to find for Donald Trump on literally anything. Is there one?

[Todd Erzin]

Probably.

[Aaron McIntyre]

Probably not. Well, that's where all of those charges would have to be filed. I think we all know that that's just a colossal waste of time. I'm totally fine. Listen, this Al Capone seat in Alcatraz is warm enough. He'll get. It's warm either way. He'll get syphilis and die in there either way, whether it's for tax evasion or the St. Valentine's Day massacre. He'll get syphilis and die in Alcatraz nevertheless. Correct.

[Todd Erzin]

Correct.

[Aaron McIntyre]

So I just want James Comey perp walked. I don't really care what it's for. You're not going to get the perp walk we deserve in Washington, dc. You know where you might get it? The Eastern District of North Carolina. You might get it there. Might get it there. State Trump's won three times. You might get it there. Might get it there. At least there's a hell of a lot better chance of getting it there in Washington D.C. right?

[Todd Erzin]

There is.

[Aaron McIntyre]

There is. And not to mention the timing. I love the timing of this. I mean, be still my beating heart. I. I might actually think someone's doing some planning, some strategizing, talk me. Talk me off the ledge. Er, because the timing of going after Comey for this just after the fourth assassination attempt, now you've got a perfectly fine rat, rather than just doing it randomly one Wednesday when nothing else is. Hey, guys, are going to have to Comey for an Instagram post last year. No, we're going after him for essentially saying, murder the President, you know, right after someone tried to do it for a fourth time. The timing's perfect. It's absolutely perfect.

[Todd Erzin]

You're, like, rusty right now.

[Aaron McIntyre]

The sun shining on my face right now. I mean, this is the most I have said in a day since last year. I voted for this. I voted for this. I voted for this. I voted for this probably since, like last July, I would guess, and when the big beautiful bill passed, since that bill passed, I have not said I voted for this more times, maybe combined than I have, like, in the last 48 hours. This is what we voted for. It's even smart. No. Go after him in a place where you could really get them. That's how, you know, this is just not a show trial to get a. To get a headline and share a meme, because they. They went after him in a place where they could really get him, where he's going to have to really report and he will really be arrested. Not just some procedural thing in D.C. that Pam Bondi tried before and we all got hyped up about it. That lasted for a day and it was out of here, right?

[Todd Erzin]

Yes.

[Aaron McIntyre]

Yeah. It was a joke because she was a joke and an awful appointment and I was right. And it also proves I'm right about this. We're not a nation of laws and we never have been. We are a nation of political will and we always Will be. Maybe we just needed the white guy as our editor. Rob, you know, keeps texting me. We just needed a white guy to do something. Maybe it's just Todd Blanche really wants the job. Maybe it's Donald Trump got sick of waiting for the people he hired to do their jobs. Maybe it's a combination of all that. We are now getting things we voted for. The thing we talked about yesterday, the indictment of Lex Luthor, Anthony Fauci's Otis. Okay, the guy who was so confident that Fauci had gotten rid of all the evidence that could link back to him causing the COVID virus, that he put it in writing that they got rid of all the evidence somewhere. Anthony Fauci right now is like, Otis. He just put it in writing. We've got it. We've got. We've got this guy in writing saying, yeah, you won't believe how smart Foushee was getting rid of the evidence. All right, well, we got you. All right. I voted very, very hard for that. I know pretty much everybody in this audience did as well. So now, now, now we are getting some action and some traction. Gentlemen, your thoughts?

[Todd Erzin]

Well, I plan on starting a GoFundMe after this show to raise money to build a statue of James Comey playing with seashells on that beach. It's going to be beautiful. It's going to be stupendous.

[Aaron McIntyre]

Have Pam Bondi speak at the dedication ceremony.

[Todd Erzin]

The best, biggest, yes. And you know, you used to say, Steve, quite frequently, like, when somebody does something that's inexplicable on some level, like Pam Bondi, like, you hope they hope they got paid for it because you can just understand greed.

[Aaron McIntyre]

Yes.

[Todd Erzin]

I do hope we find out. Because if she didn't get a payday for all of this, her last act

[Aaron McIntyre]

as attorney General was giving a heads up to Eric Swalwell that they were coming after him. That was her last act as attorney general.

[Todd Erzin]

I mean, did she just like being in D.C. and on camera that much? Is she just.

[Aaron McIntyre]

Yes.

[Todd Erzin]

Is she basically an Instagrammer?

[Aaron McIntyre]

Yes. There's only two kinds of politicians. You've heard me say this a million times, too, over the years, right? Those who want to be something and those who want to do something. That's the only two kinds. It's not Republicans and Democrats. It's not any ideological label. It's just those two kinds.

[Todd Erzin]

This Blythe guy, it's like he woke up in the morning and was watching that scene in Tombstone where Billy Bob Thornton is running the casino, but he's just a fake bully and everybody buys into it and Kirk Russell just goes

[Aaron McIntyre]

in and starts slapping him around.

[Todd Erzin]

Oh, yeah.

[Aaron McIntyre]

Yes.

[Todd Erzin]

That's. I mean, every morning, just watch that. Show it to everybody. This is how we roll.

[Steve Dace]

Yep. You know, if the kind of negative things we've heard about Todd Blanche are actually true and this is just some sort of his attempt, he really wants to be Attorney General, but he knows he's got to please the West Wing. And so this is not really who he is. But this is just an audition. I'm fine with that. I'm fine with that.

[Aaron McIntyre]

Motivations.

[Steve Dace]

I don't even totally, I'm totally, totally good with that. I'm just, you know, let's just punish our enemies. So maybe they learn a lesson about maybe using the tools of lawfare against us again. And maybe, just maybe, maybe, just maybe, they'll think twice in the future. I would totally fine with that. Totally fine with that.

[Aaron McIntyre]

I'm totally fine with saying I voted for this again. It feels good to be saying that again. I have not said that very much the last six months. Instead, I've been holding on. Okay, saying cut me Mick in the corner in between rounds. It feels good to say I voted for this again. More in a moment.

[Dr. Stephen Meyer]

The steve day show.

[Aaron McIntyre]

All right, back here on the Steve Day show and we are powered by select quota. It is time for some life talk. Life insurance talk, that is. You probably have it, but do you know how much you're paying for it and how much are you really being covered? And odds are you might be paying too much for too little. And did you know that if you're getting it through your job and you are unexpectedly laid off, well, you could suddenly now not be covered? All right. So that's scary to think about, but simple to get it right. Thanks to select quote. All right. For over 40 years they have been one of the most trusted brokers in insurance, helping More than 2 million Americans secure over $700 billion in coverage. And their mission is simple, to find you the right insurance policy for your unique needs. They shop so that you can save. And unlike other one size fits all life insurance companies, select quotes licensed agents, well, they work for you and they'll do so in as little as 15 minutes, partnering with providers to sometimes get you same day coverage of up to $2 million without needing to visit a doctor. And if you have a pre existing condition, they've got carriers to deal with that as well. So get the right life insurance for you for less and save more than [e-mail] Steve that's save more than 50% on term life [e-mail] Steve today to get started. That's SelectQuote.com Steve very quickly, we have some breaking news. Before we get to our guest, we have to give, I mean, just an incredible round of applause for the ears and family. We just found out that your oldest daughter, Ainsley was named the Southeastern Conferences female student athlete of the year. That's, that's an incredible accomplishment, my brother. I mean, congratulations to you, Jill, the whole clan. Yeah, I mean, that doesn't happen just with God given talent. That's a, that's nurturing, that's mentorship, discipleship, partnership. That's family, you know, situational ship being totally all in. Just an absolutely incredible accomplishment, man. So wanted to make sure that that got mentioned today on the show.

[Todd Erzin]

Thank you. She's one of the most faithful human beings I've ever met and she happens to be my daughter. And I just thank God I didn't screw it up.

[Aaron McIntyre]

Well said. Well said. Something tells me we're going to be hearing the name Ainsley Erzen a lot more in the future moving forward.

[Todd Erzin]

Thank you.

[Aaron McIntyre]

I do not think this is the cap. I think that this is the end of the beginning is what I think. Speaking of beginnings, new movie coming out now called the Story of Everything. I just had a chance to watch it and the man behind it joins us now. Dr. Stephen Meyer is here with us. We have a mutual friend and Frank Turek. That's how I got to know about Dr. Meyer and his film. So, Stephen, it's good to have you with us here on the Blaze, my friend. How are you?

[Dr. Stephen Meyer]

Very well, and thank you for having me on.

[Aaron McIntyre]

So my first question is how in the world do you tell the story of Everything in two hours or less? How do you make that happen? That's incredible.

[Dr. Stephen Meyer]

More than 35 minutes, as it happens. Yeah, it's maybe slightly pretentious title, but we're talking about the origin of the universe, which is everything and the life that's in it, which is more of the everything. So, yeah, it's a great story and the producers have done a fabulous job converting a lot of the work that I and my colleagues have done in book form and in scientific articles into a compelling documentary story that is going to be released in theaters on April 30th. It's nothing less than the story of the scientific rediscovery of the evidence for the existence of God.

[Aaron McIntyre]

So several years ago, for our Wedding anniversary. I had a speaking engagement in New York City, and our family were huge fans of the night at the museum movies. All right. And so this was pre Covid. So they, you know, they hadn't gone crazy yet. It was. And so they still. They had torn down this Teddy Roosevelt statue there yet. Okay. And so my wife made a point of heading over to Bicentral park to go to the Museum of Natural History, which at the time, it still might be, was being curated by Dr. Neil DeGrasse Tyson. And when we got into the. The cosmology astronomy part of the museum, and I still have a picture of it on my phone, Stephen, to this day, one of the first displays you'll see as it gets to the. The beginnings and origins of the universe. It literally says we do not necessarily know when the universe began or why that. It literally says that right on the. Right on the. On the. On the display. And I thought to myself, let me get this straight. You guys admit up front that you don't have answers to the most important questions in the universe. You don't really even think you can find them, but yet you want to tell us all how we should live our lives and make the most important existential societal decisions for us on our behalf, despite not having even attempts at answering the most important fundamental questions of life? Seemed to me like there was a bit of a disconnect there. And that seems to be one of the things that you guys are trying to tackle in this movie.

[Dr. Stephen Meyer]

Absolutely. In fact, we have a bite of Neil DeGrasse Tyson in the introduction in which he's saying that there's. He's kind of, in a sense of the mode of a faux lament, says that he's just sad to say there's. There's just no evidence for. For the existence of God. But that statement that you saw in the. In the Natural History Muse is really revealing. We think we know that the universe had a beginning. We may not be sure exactly when it began, but we don't know what caused it, at least from a scientific or materialistic point of view. And that makes sense. That's a sensible admission, because what began at the beginning of the universe was literally everything, physical, matter, space, time, and energy. Independent of all of that, there was no matter to do the causing. So materialistic explanations for the origin of the universe are inherently inadequate. And yet what the cosmologists have found, first of all, confirms the first words of the Bible, that there was in fact a beginning. And secondly, suggests the need for a cause that transcends matter, space, time and energy that lies outside our physical domain. And the postulation of a God with the attributes that Jews and Christians have long ascribed to God, in particular transcendence, intelligence, great power and volition provides a very good explanation for what is not explained materialistically.

[Aaron McIntyre]

One of the things I like you guys did in this film too is you went after Carl Sagan, kind of the celebrity when and when I went after. Let me you guys go out of your way to make this very respectful, high minded. You clearly want this to be taken seriously scientifically. So when I want go after not in the way we do in my line of work, like you confronted him some of his scholarship, let me put it that way. Let me try to be a little bit more dignified in how I described it.

[Dr. Stephen Meyer]

But you we just let him speak in his own voice.

[Aaron McIntyre]

Correct.

[Dr. Stephen Meyer]

Which is quite revealing. You know, the. It's not only that these scientists affirm that materialism as a worldview explains everything. So explain the implications of that. And in Sagan's case, he describes the kind of hopelessness, meaninglessness we should all feel right understanding that the pale blue dot, he puts it mites in a plum. You know, little tiny mites on the plum planet Earth in an insignificant galaxy, in an insignificant universe. So the so called death of God in science and philosophy has resulted in a kind of nihilism and hopelessness, especially among young people. And one of the hopes we have for the film is that in showing that the scientific evidence is pointing in exactly the opposite direction, there's no need to embrace that, that nihilism. The whole question of personal meaning is back on the table. If there's a personal creator behind the universe, then then there absolutely can be ultimate personal meaning and significance to each of our lives.

[Aaron McIntyre]

And I'm old enough to remember when in science class growing up, I can't remember it was Nova Omni, whatever the show was that Sagan did. And he always began with something like the universe is all there is, all there ever was and all there ever will be. Right. That it was essentially a concept.

[Dr. Stephen Meyer]

That was his famous mantra from the Cosmos series.

[Aaron McIntyre]

That's what it was.

[Dr. Stephen Meyer]

Yes, Ben replied. Prized in the Cosmos Reboot with Neil DeGrasse Tyson. Which is so ironic because even when Sagan was doing cosmos in the 80s, we already knew, as best we can tell from all the observational astronomical evidence and from developments in theoretical physics, we've been able to know that the universe had a beginning. It was not eternal and self existent, as that famous quote. Implies. So if it's not eternal and self existent, then it requires an external creator. And Sagan alighted that issue throughout that whole period. But the evidence has grown even stronger. And I think the scientific materialism, or the new atheism, as it was called in the early aughts and 20, 15, 16 sort of time period, I think is on the wane precisely because those people speaking in the name of science didn't really address the most cutting edge science. That's pointing to the reality of a creative intelligence behind it all.

[Aaron McIntyre]

One of the other things I saw at the Museum of Natural History was they had a display and Neil Degrasse Tyson, he narrated a film on dark matter and it says, hey, we just discovered dark matter in the late 1970s, but we're not really sure what it does, what its purpose is. We're still studying it. And as I watch this stuff, Stephen, I said, how do you know then? All right, if you just discovered a major, you know, substant, substantive component of the universe just in the last 30 years and you still don't even know why it's there or what it does, how can you be so assured that what you think right now is actually true? Why? Why is literally not. How could you not find out 30 years from now that literally everything you thought is just totally wrong? Right, but they speak with just such confidence.

[Dr. Stephen Meyer]

Yeah, well, that, I mean, that's often the case in science. But here's another cut on that. In science we often infer what we cannot see in order to explain what we can see. Dark matter is a great example of that. We have these. There were these unexplained gravitational anomalies. The way the galaxies were moving that seemed to imply there was some other matter in the universe that was not visible to us that was causing that gravitational motion. So we postulated an unobservable thing called dark matter to explain the observable. Well, if that's a legitimate move in science generally, then why is it illegitimate to posit an unobservable creative intelligence when we are in fact seeing the distinctive attributes or hallmarks of intelligent activity, in particular inside living cells, where we've discovered not only digital code stored in the DNA molecule after all, Bill Gates calls it something like a software program. Richard Dawkins says it's like machine code, suggesting a master programmer for life. But we've also discovered an exquisite realm of miniaturized data processing, complex information storage, transmission and processing system inside every living cell of every living organism. We can't explain the origin of one of these, the iPhone, without reference to the unobservable activity of Steve Jobs mind. In the same way we can't explain the origin of the cell without reference to the unobservable but still very real activity of a designing mind behind it all. A master programmer for life.

[Aaron McIntyre]

I think the thing your film maybe does the most effectively because you did really go out of your way in my view, to approach this from a scientific angle and to use scientific nomenclature, vernacular precedent, etc. I, I think it does a very good job of pointing out that much of what we're being sold there for to counter this isn't science, but philosophy. That's in search of a scientific narrative, a philosophical conclusion in search of a scientific narrative. And in many respects, you know, when, when we religious folk do that, we get called, you know, zealots, Christa, fascists, you know, dog. We're dogmatic. That's kind of what we've been called.

[Dr. Stephen Meyer]

Creationists and cheap tuxedos.

[Aaron McIntyre]

Yeah, that's e. What you're pointing out is they're actually, that's actually what they're doing is that they're not searching for science, they are looking for narrative confirmation.

[Dr. Stephen Meyer]

Well, this is one of the great points that one of our key scientific witnesses in the film, Professor John Lennox, emeritus from Oxford University, a mathematician and philosopher of science, is one of his points that he makes. He says that this isn't a contest between about scientific evidence, it's a contest about worldviews. And what we're showing in the film is that the worldview we've all been told, which provides a narrative, as you say, is one of the great stories of reality. It's the materialist narrative that matter has existed eternally from the past. It arranged and shaped itself. It's self existent, self organizing and self creating. And that's what explains everything. And we show instead that no, a better explanation involves what we know about the cause and effect structure of the world, which is that it takes a mind to build certain types of things. Certainly it takes a mind to generate information. It takes a mind to generate miniature machines or circuits. And these are the kinds of things we're finding inside cells. It takes a mind to generate systems that are finely tuned to achieve a certain outcome or purpose. That's what we're finding about the whole of the universe with the fine tuning of the basic parameters of physics. So the feature explained by a creative intelligence and that suggests a very different narrative, a very different story. Which of these two stories, which of these two grand narratives better explains what we've actually discovered about biological, physical and cosmological origins. And we think it's the theistic story, the one that affirms the existence of God, not the materialistic story that denies the reality of a creative intelligence of any kind.

[Aaron McIntyre]

Well, you guys did a great job. Stephen, if folks want to go see this movie when it opens tomorrow, how can they do so?

[Dr. Stephen Meyer]

There's a website where you can get tickets. It's opening on over 500 screens across the country. The website is the Story of Everything. And it will also be after the. It will be in theaters at least a week and maybe longer. And when it's done with the digital, with the theatrical release, there'll be probably by mid summer it'll be available on various digital platforms as well. But I do recommend people go and see it in the theaters. It's gorgeous on the big screen. 400 visual effects, gorgeous cinematography. The filmmakers take you deep out into space to see the galaxies close up and down deep into the cell to see the inner workings of all this digital nanotechnology I've been talking about.

[Aaron McIntyre]

It's called the Story of Everything. You don't want to miss it. Good to see you. Thank you. Stephen Meyer. Appreciate it. Good work.

[Dr. Stephen Meyer]

Hey, thanks for having me on. Appreciate it very much.

[Aaron McIntyre]

You bet. Gentlemen, your thoughts on that conversation.

[Todd Erzin]

One thing I'm most interested in is much like with you, Steve, and a lot of your work, certainly our book, Fauci and Bargain, the tack that's going to be taken with this movie. Will it be confronted and attacked by the likes of Degrassi, Tyson, etc, etc, the press, or will it be ignored because. Which pretty much happened with our book because if we start talking about this, they realize they can't overturn any of those facts, those footnotes, etc. So we just have to pretend it doesn't exist. I really want to see what the reaction to the existence of this film.

[Steve Dace]

Yeah, that's. I mean that in and of itself, in this day and age, at least with this story, is the story of. Of everything when it comes to academia. Because if they see this as a legitimate threat, then you're going to see them attack it. Or they're going to go one of two directions. You're going to see them attack it, try to get all over it, or if it is so effective, they're going to act like it never existed. Never existed. So hats off to all those involved with making this, including Dr. Meyer. And a fascinating conversation. I'll probably be able to catch it on digital. I can't wait to do that when it comes out there.

[Aaron McIntyre]

Like I said to Dr. Meyer, this is a clear attempt to be taken seriously by the scientific community to force them. I mean, the way that this is presented, it's not a polemic at all, at all. This is meant to be, well, to use a term from Martin Luther, a disputation. This, this film is, is meant to be an academic exercise. It is worded as one. It is con. Constructed as one. I mean, at no point is there an attempt to water down the language at all. Okay. I mean, this is an attempt to go at the serious scientific community. And, and Stephen is right, by the way. It is visually stunning. It is visually stunning. Way more so than most documentaries. But, but in terms of it, the way the message it communicates this intends to go at the, at the upper echelons of the scientific community and to say, okay, all right, you guys want us to take you seriously? Do you even take your own science seriously? Because you are bypassing whole sectors of your own findings in order to continue to double down on a narrative. So from, from an argumentation approach, I like that strategy quite a bit.

[Todd Erzin]

It's like what Congressman Brandon Gill is that. Yeah, same thing.

[Aaron McIntyre]

Who by the way, I found out yesterday is Dinesh d' Souza's son in law. I did not know this. I found that out after the video. After I, after I saw the video and sent it out. That's when someone told me that so I would come back and play by Southern hold next. Stay tuned. Chronic migraine is 15 or more headache days a month each lasting four hours or more. Botox on a Botulinum toxin a prevents headaches in adults with chronic migraine before they start. It's not for those with 14 or fewer headache days a month.

[Steve Dace]

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[Dr. Stephen Meyer]

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[Aaron McIntyre]

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[Todd Erzin]

I did see that.

[Aaron McIntyre]

Have you seen that? Yeah. You're going to have to verify whether or not that happened or not.

[Todd Erzin]

Nope.

[Aaron McIntyre]

You're going to have to be an eyewitness to whether that occurred or not.

[Todd Erzin]

Nope.

[Aaron McIntyre]

Aaron, fire away.

[Steve Dace]

All right, I think we need to begin with a point of order, thanks to Esther Wolber, who says when 90% of the conservative podcasters and social media influencers suddenly and simultaneously discover the clip from January 2025 of Ilan Omar misreading World War II as World War 11, they look no better than the leftist media they accuse of reading from one prescribed script. It looks even more scripted when each of them conveniently cuts the clip to leave out the part where she immediately recognizes her stupidity, chuckles, and corrects herself. At least acknowledge that the clip isn't new and it is on its second round. Also, it doesn't help the look when they each add that tired, leering center joke, buy, sell, or hold.

[Aaron McIntyre]

I guess I'll buy, because I wasn't aware that that had been said last year. This is the first I'm hearing of it.

[Steve Dace]

It looks like there's a lot. A lot of people.

[Aaron McIntyre]

I had no idea.

[Steve Dace]

First time they've ever seen it is

[Aaron McIntyre]

absolutely the first time I've seen that clip was when we played it.

[Todd Erzin]

And even.

[Aaron McIntyre]

Or I mean right before we play because I'd seen it in my feed the day before. Yeah.

[Steve Dace]

You see that John Thune clip that's been going around this week of him talking about the standing filibuster? Have you seen that? That's gone viral. A lot of people have posted. That's not from this week either.

[Aaron McIntyre]

Interesting. So.

[Todd Erzin]

Well, regarding Ellen Omar, I still sell, even if it's the third time or the fourth time I've seen it. She's a traitor. She should be deported on pylon.

[Aaron McIntyre]

I think that's a good sell to. But I think Esther also does make a good point. Okay. And so I think both sides of this have equal validity. You know, I don't think you can kneecap Ilhan Omar enough, provided it's a legitimate kneecapping. I have no problem with recycling it. I just wasn't recycling it. I had no idea.

[Todd Erzin]

I've never seen it before.

[Aaron McIntyre]

So you got me. Esther absolutely got me on that.

[Steve Dace]

I'm selling because I went through, went and looked at some of Esther's recent. She, she, she submitted a buy seller hold a couple weeks ago. Richie meets the rainbow's dad is clearly a good and loving dad. But there's nothing biblical about the rainbow spectrum consisting of seven colors. Sir Isaac Newton originally identified five, but then he arbitrarily added orange and indigo because seven was a number more in line with the musical scale. Alchemy and Christian scripture depending on the source. Blah, blah, blah, blah, blah. I'm going to sell.

[Dr. Stephen Meyer]

Sorry.

[Todd Erzin]

That's real.

[Steve Dace]

Yep.

[Todd Erzin]

You didn't do one of those things, Aaron, where you just totally make something up that could be real.

[Aaron McIntyre]

I got to be honest, Esther got me again because I watched a 15 minute video on YouTube last night about what was discovered in Isaac Newton's secret chest that was auctioned off at. Is it Sotheby's or you know, the auctioneer, The English.

[Todd Erzin]

Oh, Sotheby.

[Aaron McIntyre]

Sotheby, something like that.

[Todd Erzin]

Yes, yes.

[Aaron McIntyre]

Okay. And it was auctioned off and John Maynard Keynes, the left wing economist, bought it. Okay. It was a huge bid for this. It was a previously had not been opened since the mid-1700s. And it was Sir Isaac Newton's private chest. And John Maynard Keynes won a very hotly debated auction for this in the 1930s. And when he took it home and opened it up, he was stunned to read how much was in there of Isaac Newton's obsession with Daniel. 70 weeks trying to figure out whether the book of Revelation was a futuristic book. Remember, this is pre dispensationalism and a lot of the futuristic eschatology of the era had not yet arrived from England. And so he was trying to mathematically figure out patterns as a mathematician in the Bible between festivals and various other things to see if there was a. If there was a way to try to figure out. And he came up with the number 2060 that he thought Christ's return would happen no later than 2060. And so this was in the chest. Esther had no idea. I spent 20 minutes last night watching this from all the way through. I was very fascinated by it. So I think Esther. I got to buy Esther twice. She got me twice.

[Todd Erzin]

Well done, Esther.

[Aaron McIntyre]

Yeah, Esther is.

[Todd Erzin]

I'm a sticker for Esther.

[Aaron McIntyre]

Esther scolded me twice. Yes, there you go.

[Steve Dace]

Next we go to Dacian memes for pumpkin spiced queens. Who said in Somalia, soda economy is from the Greek word econs for mia, which means household on welfare. And when you think about it, the Somalians contribution to the building our economy is a lot like bananas and rice.

[Aaron McIntyre]

That's beautiful.

[Todd Erzin]

That is beautifully making poetry great again.

[Aaron McIntyre]

Yes, I mean, that is. And the levels of snottiness there too are absolutely off the charts at the exact same time. That's beautifully done.

[Todd Erzin]

That should be in Sir Isaac Newton's chest of wonders.

[Aaron McIntyre]

Yes, that was exceedingly well done. All the buys on that. You bet.

[Steve Dace]

Pete Mitchell says the Steve Day show and the Jesse Kelly show are the sweet and salty shows to listen to, where if you get too blackpooled by one you can move to the other but you always stay in reality kicker. The shows switch back and forth on which is sweet and which is salty. Though the Steve Day show is the salty or vinegary for those who appreciate it, one about 65% of the time.

[Aaron McIntyre]

You know, I'll take that as a great compliment.

[Todd Erzin]

Absolutely.

[Aaron McIntyre]

I mean, I'm. I'm totally fine being Jesse Kelly's wingman. All right, so, you know, if you're swinging back and forth between the two of us and I, and I don't have time to follow most of what I know of what my colleagues think, if they don't text me direct, if I know them, and I do know Jesse, but if they, if they don't text me directly, I mean, the amount of time it takes for us to produce what we do and then all the other stuff I'm involved in, I just, I don't know on a daily basis what a lot of my colleagues are doing beyond what snapshots I see on X. Okay. I. I don't know.

[Todd Erzin]

You know, that might be the truest thing of all the things you mentioned when I started here.

[Aaron McIntyre]

Yep.

[Todd Erzin]

Like, I don't. I'm the same. I don't watch unless I see a clip of it. I don't watch anybody else's stuff.

[Aaron McIntyre]

And apparently I'm not watching enough because I had no idea that Esther was going to out me on the actual source of the seven colors of the rainbow, where that actually came from. But I did not know that there was kind of a yin and yang with Jesse and I actually. So.

[Todd Erzin]

Yeah, that's good company. That's a good foxhole.

[Aaron McIntyre]

I'm totally fine sharing that foxhole. You bet. I'll buy.

[Steve Dace]

Still begs the question, though. Why does the rainbow flag still have six colors? That's the bigger point.

[Aaron McIntyre]

Well, that's the point. Yeah. Because that's the number of the enemy. 666. That's why.

[Steve Dace]

So there's that. Next we go to Jonathan, who says, four course meal at state dinners if Steve were elected president. Chilled fruit punch, jello cubes.

[Todd Erzin]

No.

[Steve Dace]

Kraft microwave Mac and cheese cups, pumpkin spice encrusted KFC chicken with fries and Kexi cookies for the dessert.

[Aaron McIntyre]

The last three are potential number one. No way. Number one. No way.

[Todd Erzin]

What's wrong with you and jello?

[Aaron McIntyre]

There's nothing wrong with me and jello. That just would not be on the list. I mean, it's. We're going to have nothing wrong with it.

[Todd Erzin]

Like, okay, I thought you had a Jello star.

[Aaron McIntyre]

But I mean, if I'm picking the state dinner, I was.

[Todd Erzin]

Steve, scarred by jello back when he was 6. I wanted to hear that story.

[Aaron McIntyre]

No, no, no, no, no. There's nothing wrong with. I'm sorry. It's a great American delicacy. It just would not be part of the. If I did the state dinner, that would not be there. I'm with you on the Kexi cookies, the pumpkin spice encrusted KFC chicken with fries. I could do that for sure. Okay, The Kraft Macaroni and Cheese. The cheese cups. No, we're not doing the microwave. Give me the boiled water. All right, do it. The.

[Steve Dace]

That's such a small serving, too. You need like, three of those cups.

[Aaron McIntyre]

Yes. Yeah. So get. Boil the water with the shells. Because I also want to control how much butter you gotta. See, here's the key.

[Steve Dace]

Butter.

[Aaron McIntyre]

You gotta put the butter in before cheese. Yes, yes, yes. Yeah. So, I mean, we're gonna. We're not gonna microwave that bad boy. We're gonna do that one right. Okay. And we've all been to the White House mess hall. We know they've got enough cooks there. We've all witnessed this firsthand. Okay. Just about a year ago at this time. Actually, it was a year ago tomorrow that we all had lunch.

[Todd Erzin]

Yeah.

[Aaron McIntyre]

At the White House mess hall. All right. Courtesy of our friend Rachel. All right, Rachel. Collie. All right, so we're well aware of the fact they've got enough cooks in there to cook us the real craft. Mac and cheese right out of the box. The real stuff. All right. Not the microwave stuff. All right. And load that up with butter before you put the cheese in there. That's what makes it really not milk, because then it gets soupy. You just got to use butter because that's what makes it creamy. All right. And instead of, like, jello cups, I think you're probably looking at. You know, I've got one for you. All right. You want to know what a completely underrated great cereal is?

[Todd Erzin]

The having cereal at the state.

[Aaron McIntyre]

The all peanut butter Reese's Peanut Butter cup cereal. The all peanut butter one. All right, so maybe you'd have cups of that. Right? That's kind of, you know, the first course, the. The. The hors d'. Oeuvre. All right. Little cups of peanut butter cereal. Maybe little cups of. I love Golden Grams. That'd be a good one, too, to serve. Actually, I kind of like all the cereals, but those are ones that would be good to put in cups, you know, to hand out, you know, with the waiters walking around, you know, Cupo cereal. All right. Stuff that, you know, is an easy finger food that fits there in the cereal. You don't put, like, Raisin Bran and stuff in there where there's different things that are flakes and stuff that could come out. Right. Just grab whole pieces, you know? So I'm thinking. So that's why Frida Pebbles also wouldn't work. So I'm thinking, like, the. The Reese's Peanut Butter cup cereal that's all peanut butter.

[Todd Erzin]

He's still talking. Let me just say this. It would be the honor of my life to serve you if you became President of the United States. But, Amy, he's never planning a state dinner. Like, can we just agree on this? Amy, you're in charge. We're not doing cereal.

[Aaron McIntyre]

Why is this much different than Trump, like, ordering, like, trays of McDonald's for the LSU football team when they won the Natty. Remember that? The Joey Burrow team, and they all came to The White House and he had like trays of McDonald's for him. I thought that was pretty dope actually.

[Todd Erzin]

Well, that was dope, but they're college athletes who just, you know, you just throw chum in the water and they go get it. We're trying to raise the volume.

[Aaron McIntyre]

I'm a 50 some odd year old man serving cereal.

[Todd Erzin]

Yes, yes.

[Aaron McIntyre]

Yeah, I hear you.

[Todd Erzin]

Okay. There you did. You connected the dots.

[Aaron McIntyre]

One of the greatest observations about me you ever made was many years ago when you said you have the palate of a sixth grader. And you're right, I do pretty much.

[Steve Dace]

Yep.

[Aaron McIntyre]

I peaked in the sixth grade. It's true.

[Steve Dace]

Let's move on to, I mean, and

[Aaron McIntyre]

there are seven colors of the rainbow. Esther, get off my back. Esther. You try carrying Bill Walton up and down the court every night.

[Todd Erzin]

Great movie.

[Aaron McIntyre]

It was.

[Steve Dace]

Trumpet says the odds of the Steve Day show team having a normal show consistently for a full week are greater than the odds that Trump calls off the Iran war within the next two weeks.

[Aaron McIntyre]

I, I'm kind of thinking that's a metaphysical, physical certitude.

[Todd Erzin]

I will say there's been a lot of other news, but we've gone. Have we gone like 48 hours here now without any, like, it seemed like every other day there was a new narrative or something.

[Aaron McIntyre]

We did talk about the OPEC thing with UAE yesterday a little bit. So it's related to this, but not, you know. Yeah, I am looking for reasons to not talk about it. I'm sick of talking about it. And I'm in a preview of what my next prediction is going to be on Friday for the day script. I'm, I'm kind of thinking yesterday's news that UAE says we're going to pull out of OPEC is the number three petroleum producer in OPEC is the uae. And then the next day Trump saying, well, buckle down. This may be a long term blockade of the straight up Hormuzz. I'm kind of thinking that those events may be related. They're not random.

[Steve Dace]

Markets are starting to say we kind of think those two events are related. They're not random because have you seen the price of oil today?

[Aaron McIntyre]

I saw it yesterday when one got canned. That's. What is it today?

[Steve Dace]

It's way higher than yesterday.

[Aaron McIntyre]

It's even higher.

[Steve Dace]

WTI. And that's our crude. WTI crude, $107 a barrel.

[Aaron McIntyre]

And I'm kind of thinking, you know, people will forget it when I say it on Friday anyway. But I'm, I'm Kind of thinking we are, we're, we're hunkering down for a long term siege strategy to essentially. Which is one of the oldest warfare strategies. It's what we did in ancient times when cities built walls to stop invaders. Well, just cut them off so things can't go in, can't go out and eventually they collapse. And I think that's what we're hunkering down to do in Iran. And I think maybe a new, shall we say, maybe not pro America but not anti Western. Maybe that's the way I describe it. How's that? Maybe not pro American but not anti Western and not certainly not pro Israel, but, but anti forever war with Israelis. Okay. A new oil consortium is going to be inserted to essentially take the place of OPEC with its main highway shut down for an indeterminate amount of time. As we're essentially just going to, you know, we're just going to starve the Iranian regime out of power. I kind of think that's maybe what we're setting up for here.

[Steve Dace]

Next up we go to Lawrence. If John Fetterman loses his Senate seat, Trump should immediately appoint him as ambassador

[Aaron McIntyre]

to the UN oh, only on one condition. He shows up every day in a hoodie and sweatpants that I would buy because that's, that's all the dignity that that institution is worthy of. As long as he shows up every day in a hoodie and sweatpants, then if you, if we, if that condition is acceptable, then I will buy. Yes.

[Todd Erzin]

Yeah. And I mean he would be. Wouldn't ambassador to any number of countries. Making an ambassador to China or something like that.

[Aaron McIntyre]

Again, as long as he's wearing a hoodie and some pants. Yes, 100%. Yeah.

[Steve Dace]

Next, this from Joe who says only a first step, but much more needs to be done. Anyone sick and tired of ABC's hypocrisy by protecting Kimmel while firing, say, Roseanne Barr should consider canceling their Disney and ESPN subscriptions.

[Todd Erzin]

Absolutely.

[Steve Dace]

Evergreen.

[Aaron McIntyre]

Sure. I mean if you're that upset about it, sure. I don't have a problem with that.

[Steve Dace]

That's it. Okay, next up. I was cycling back through the submissions again. Here we go. Can you talk or something?

[Aaron McIntyre]

I mean, no, we're gonna leave you hanging.

[Steve Dace]

Okay, sounds good. I mean I kind of deserve it for exiting out of the thing here. No, during pretty short submission you showed

[Aaron McIntyre]

we're going to exploit it.

[Steve Dace]

I appreciate that. Jonathan says Tucker announces prior to Memorial Day he's joining opec.

[Aaron McIntyre]

That is incredible. That's, that's very well Done. Did you guys see the thing? I'm going to buy. I like it. It's. That's sufficiently snotty as well. I will buy.

[Todd Erzin]

Yeah, that's a. I mean, he's. He's pretty much Colonel Kurtz at this point, is he not?

[Aaron McIntyre]

He's. He's gone native. He's gone upstream.

[Steve Dace]

Yeah.

[Aaron McIntyre]

Yeah. I mean, and, I mean, I. I thought maybe I was going to be Martin Sheen and go up river and bring him home. No, I'm not. Nope. Nope. That's just. That's. That's a. That's a mission to nowhere. Did you guys see the thing going around today about webbing doing an event with a bunch of women?

[Todd Erzin]

I did not.

[Aaron McIntyre]

Yeah, so I guess we. I guess if they're anti Semites and, you know, they are also, you know, Nick Fuentes adjacent, totally fine. If they're not at home, you know, serving their men and being good stay at home wives, he's totally fine.

[Todd Erzin]

This isn't just about how to make a pie. There's nothing else. No.

[Aaron McIntyre]

No. If you are willing to also help him and advance his agenda, I guess he doesn't have a problem whatsoever, you know, sharing stages with women. I guess so. Found that fascinating.

[Steve Dace]

Yeah. Next, let's go to this from Ryan the Christo fascist. The one time it's acceptable for a man, Steve, to identify as a woman is to take advantage of the Kexi cookie Mother's Day gift box. Kexi's getting a lot of free shoutouts.

[Aaron McIntyre]

They are, man. I mean, I don't know who whose account Kexi belongs to, but, I mean, I might raise that rate a little bit, but I'll buy. Or you could just play the card that I played the other day. Hey, I'm. Why you're a mom. Can't mom yourself. I made you a mom, so I get my cut. I think that's a perfectly reasonable position. Todd, your thoughts for a sociopath?

[Congressman Brandon Gill]

Yes.

[Aaron McIntyre]

I made you a mom. You can't mom yourself. So, I mean, I get a cut of that action? Sure. I think that's a reasonable take.

[Todd Erzin]

You're that meme right now. You get in there and make Mother's Day about you.

[Aaron McIntyre]

That's great. I love that meme. I do, too. That's a great meme. But yes, that is. By the way, I did get Amy's permission to eat the German chocolate cookie from Kexi. I did have that yesterday. It's excellent. Erica.

[Todd Erzin]

Hey, Coattails baby.

[Steve Dace]

Happy for you.

[Dr. Stephen Meyer]

Next.

[Aaron McIntyre]

That was the most dismissive. Happy for you. I'VE ever heard my entire life.

[Todd Erzin]

Blessings be upon you.

[Steve Dace]

Let's see. I'm not sure who this is, period or Dash says buy, sell, or hold this headline.

[Aaron McIntyre]

Oh, gosh.

[Steve Dace]

From Babylon Bee as not satire. Megachurch torn between supporting missionaries to India or adding pickleball courts.

[Aaron McIntyre]

I'm just telling you right now that is not satire. I am just telling you right now it's not. And that's why it's hilarious, and that's why it's brutal. It's absolutely not satire. It's. It's absolutely not. That's cash money, homie. You have to buy. I mean, this is. This isn't even satire. It's not even satire.

[Todd Erzin]

If you'll allow me and you'll appreciate the spirit this comes in, but there's a Catholic joke in there about, show me in scripture where I will lie. Where are the pickleball. Pickleball courts in Scripture, where are they?

[Aaron McIntyre]

Correct. Yes. I mean, there is a verse says, whatever you do with your hand, do with all your might. So I guess that accounts for pickleball courts, right? Yes.

[Steve Dace]

Philip Bishop is next top five winners from the NFL draft, in no particular order, except he put them in order. New York Jets, Cleveland Browns, Tennessee Titans, New York Giants, Philadelphia Eagles. Todd, since you watched the NFL draft gleefully, your thoughts.

[Todd Erzin]

Watching, as Steve will attest to, is a very, very strong term. I was in the room while I was on, and I mocked it accordingly when given the chance. And then I watched in awe as the spirits intervened and threw our television off the shelf as God intended.

[Dr. Stephen Meyer]

What?

[Aaron McIntyre]

Oh, you didn't hear about this?

[Steve Dace]

No.

[Aaron McIntyre]

Okay. That's right. So everything I'm about to tell you is true. It all happened, all right? We are watching the draft. We're about halfway through the first round. Well, first of all, when I got into the room, I tried to put it on DirecTV. We had DirecTV in the hotel room that we were in, and we had not had it on the whole time we were there. This is our third and final night. The TV had not been on DirecTV once since we had been in the room. I go to turn it on in the main room, and the unit says, it's way too hot. I feel it. It is scalding hot. It's even hotter at the bottom. We never even had it on. All right? And it's. And it keeps trying to reboot itself, and it can't get itself to under 60 degrees. I go try to turn it on in the. In the room that I'm sleeping In. All right. And it keeps rebooting over and over and over and over and over again. All right, So I just get it on YouTube TV. We turn it on. We're halfway through the event, out of nowhere. I'm sitting at a kitchen table trying to get caught up on all kinds of texts and emails while watching the draft. So I'm about 10ft away from it this way. Todd is 10ft away from it over here. Literally just drinking wine out of a bottle to get himself drunk enough to be able to suffer through this. And so Todd's over here being a wino. I'm over here trying to get work done. All right. All of a sudden, we hear a loud. A loud crash. And the thing flew itself off the. The TV stand and landed face down on the. On the, on the, on the floor and cracked itself.

[Steve Dace]

Oh, my.

[Aaron McIntyre]

I then went in to turn it on. So I've got to now get. So I've got half a screen for the rest of the draft. I've got my stuff done. I need to get packed for. To catch our flight tomorrow. So I'm. I'm trying to have it on in one room and then in my room so I can keep watching as I go back and forth to pack. Right. Okay. And so I finally get the DirecTV to work in my room, and every 10 minutes, it just keeps switching to channel four in Dallas over and over again without. I didn't touch the remote control one time. None of this is made up. This all happened when I went down to get the rest of my steps in after the draft and I said this to the gal at the front desk. She looked at me like, no. And I said, listen, if it was me, if I were in your shoes, I'd have the same exact look on my face right now that you do. But I'm telling you, this all happened.

[Todd Erzin]

Yeah. Aaron, now that you've heard this story, you obviously reading it like I am a spiritual indictment of the NFL draft. Right.

[Steve Dace]

I don't know how you couldn't have some sort of like the TV or

[Aaron McIntyre]

the box flew off the whole TV flew off, like a 60 inch TV.

[Todd Erzin]

Yeah.

[Aaron McIntyre]

Flew off the whole TV stand as we were sitting, each of us 10ft away from it. Yeah.

[Steve Dace]

That is weird.

[Aaron McIntyre]

That is very weird. That is very weird.

[Todd Erzin]

God will not be mocked.

[Aaron McIntyre]

I hate NFL draft ratings. It takes years to find out, you know, if a player is good or not. I mean, I thought the jets did good, but they had more picks than literally everybody did, you know, so. Okay. I mean, I'm fine. I'll buy those. You know, I didn't think that anybody really did. Terrible.

[Steve Dace]

Todd, your thoughts don't care. I.

[Todd Erzin]

No matter what, I'm Catholic. Whatever five teams you put on there, I'm selling it.

[Steve Dace]

Next is Rob. Because of the recent indictments, interim AG Blanche has earned the role permanently. By seller hole.

[Aaron McIntyre]

I mean, I'm, I would not give it to him right now. I mean, I like, you know, I like, I like to try. I like try out Todd Blanche. What do you think of try out Todd Blanche? Yeah, let's have try out. Let's have try out Todd Blanche. Go for a little longer, right?

[Steve Dace]

Yeah.

[Aaron McIntyre]

So let. I think tryouts are good. Let's have more of a meritocracy around here and let's have try out Todd Blanche. It's working out pretty well before we get make it permanent. I'm trying.

[Todd Erzin]

I'm with you.

[Aaron McIntyre]

Okay, so sell.

[Steve Dace]

Daniel is next. Who says Sorsby won't be suspended by the NCAA because that would affect the bets NCAA employees have made for next season.

[Aaron McIntyre]

Oh, so he's never going to play another down in college football.

[Steve Dace]

Yeah, this is Cincinnati's University of Cincinnati's or Cincinnati University's former quarterback turned Texas Tech quarterback. Checked himself into rehab for betting.

[Aaron McIntyre]

Thank you, Aaron. Pardon me for let people know what the story is. You're operating under the faulty premise that they can be shamed. No, they can't. They cannot be shamed. They cannot be embarrassed. No, no. That kid's never playing another down in college football. He'll probably have to be in an NFL supplemental draft later this summer, would be my guess. And they'll run him and then turn around and take more money from FanDuel and DraftKings than they took last year. That's what's going to happen.

[Todd Erzin]

Yeah. Don't just, whatever you do, don't mistake this for a healthy line being drawn in the sand. Yes, we've let a lot of stuff go, but we cannot tolerate this. They must protect the con. The lie is the whole point with all of this. And so, yeah, they need to make sure that they continue to have the ridiculous, absurd gravy train that is college athletics. Chugga, chugga, chugga.

[Aaron McIntyre]

I mean, listen, the University of Arkansas men's tennis team. So where your daughter is, they're playing for the NCAA champ, the national championship right now, as they just found out two days ago, their program got cut. The same time the University of Alabama just took a coach who went nine and three and got absolutely. And then blew a 17 nothing lead to Oklahoma in the in the College Football Playoff and gave him a massive raise to $12 million a year. You're not shaming anybody here. Okay? Not happening. So they're going to run that kid for what he did and apparently there's like 20,000 bets or something is what I read today. Right. This has been going on since 2022. He'll never play another down in college football. May wreck Texas Tech season. They put all their nil into him as their quarterback and and then they'll take more money from DraftKings and FanDuel than they were taken before. That's what's going to happen.

[Steve Dace]

How the NCAA operates is they're going to vacate Iowa wins. They self reported for a minor during the same season Connor Stallions was running his not at all scam.

[Aaron McIntyre]

It's another way you can look at it if you want. Sure.

[Steve Dace]

It's how the NCAA operates. John is next. The show should establish a mock draft listing weekly the top five people or institutions deserving to be mocked.

[Aaron McIntyre]

I love this idea. This is a great idea.

[Todd Erzin]

Yeah, we should workshop that.

[Aaron McIntyre]

Yeah, that's a good idea.

[Steve Dace]

Might be a good social media content thing.

[Aaron McIntyre]

Yeah, let audience people vote on it. For example, like post a meme. Let people vote in the comments. Yeah, yeah, that's a great idea. Which, which institution would you mock draft this week? That's not a bad idea. Well done, John.

[Todd Erzin]

So John, why don't you get on that and post it and we'll retweet it.

[Aaron McIntyre]

Nice.

[Steve Dace]

All right. The rest will be in overtime I believe, including one that has a theory that we want to buy, sell or hold on. Why Todd Blanche we think has been so active at DOJ has to do with one governor of Florida. We'll cover that in the overtime along with I think a handful of others as well.

[Aaron McIntyre]

I could see that angle too. Yeah, I want to keep the job. In other words, see again, try out. Todd is fine. Just keep tryout. Todd is there for now. Daniel Horowitz is going to join us next. Stay tuned.

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[Aaron McIntyre]

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[Daniel Horowitz]

I'm doing all right, Steve. It's been a while.

[Aaron McIntyre]

It has been between your schedule and mine. It's good to sync up again. And. And you know, I thought maybe we might, you know, maybe not as low class as members of the White House press corps who were so shook by their near death experience, they had time to make sure to gank the bubbly off the table and stash it in their coats as they ran out of there. But maybe you and I could maybe toast a glass. We do have our first significant scamdemic indictment. And what I love about this is I used this analogy on the show yesterday. This guy reminds me of Ned Beatty's Otis in the Superman movies with the mastermind Lex Luthor, played by Gene Hackman. Right? So Fauci's just made it. He gets off scot free. He gets away with everything. Even gets a pardon on the way out the door. This guy's like, man, my boss is so smart. He's putting in writing. Daniel. Literal emails. He's putting it in writing. My boss is so smart, man. He's shredded all the evidence, hid all the evidence. They're never gonna catch us. So he got indicted by putting it all in writing. It's something. It's frankly one more than I thought we were gonna get about this time, say, 48 hours ago. So I'm going to celebrate a little bit. What are your thoughts?

[Daniel Horowitz]

Okay, so, I mean, obviously in terms of the actual vaccine issue, gain of Function issue. It's big news. The broader political implications, I think we have to see a lot of this is Todd Blanche, who oversaw the failure for the first 15 months as the operational director of the Department of Justice while Pam Bondi was essentially in Florida the whole time. Now he's trying to reinvent himself because he wants the job and that's why he saw the SPLC thing. But you know what, let's take that. We'll see what happens with him separately. What is significant about this is that Ralph Barrick is the source of it. We called it in 2020. It's in our book. Obviously, at UNC, this was not the China virus. Okay. Focusing on Wuhan is like the idiot who focuses on the finger when a guy points to the moon. You know, that was maybe the physical laboratory they used, but it's actually one of many that they have in Africa. They have in a number of former Soviet states. It's not just Wuhan. Gain of function. You know what gain of function is. And that Ralph Barrack sits at the nexus of that. It's vaccine research. I mean, that's what it is. And they're making pathogens either more virulent or more transmissible. And everyone's like, yeah, we need to bend. You know, we need to ban getting a function, but we need to understand what it means is essentially banning modern day vaccine research. So what we will, we will know if this is real if we actually shut down all of these labs throughout the world and it will essentially crush that grift because that's what Barrick pioneered.

[Aaron McIntyre]

I, I would argue what they were doing was taking gain of function research to an nth level because they were engaged, as everyone recalls. And you know, we're, this is kind of like playing a greatest hits album of, of two years of shows we all did here. Okay. That I haven't like pulling out an album haven't listened to before or haven't listened to in a while, but I still know all the words. I listened to it so much before. Right. You know, they were engaged in spillover potential. So in this case, what they were doing is the exact gain of function research that you just articulated. That's, that's, that's what it was. And to this day, you know, it was shut down. There were a couple of scientists, one at the Rutgers, another one, I think at Pittsburgh, that successfully lobbied the Obama administration to shut it down and they did. And then we don't really know how it restarted under Trump. I don't think we ever really Got an answer as to where the restart there just came. It. Could it be something that they just thought with the change of a new generation, maybe that would get bureaucratically lost in the shuffle. Right. They could kind of just get away with it again. But in this case, what they were doing, even beyond just that dangerous research, is they were specifically creating scenarios that would cause viruses to do things that they otherwise might not have done by leaving the animal kingdom and invading ours. They were specifically, you know, so it wasn't just that they were. They were doing dangerous research on the remedy. They were specifically prompting and provoking the agent, the pathogen itself. All right? And then claiming around and claiming, well, it's zoonotic. It just leaped at a wet market in Wuhan when The bats nest 900 km away or wherever. It was. Okay, to me, that's. And I. I think the analogy that I used at the time, Daniel, was gain of function research is nuclear testing on, you know, on Bikini Island. All right, what spillover. That. That's dangerous enough. Right. But what spillover does is. Is it purposely puts a human being in the blast radius to see what the radiation will do to a person who, if you had not put them there, would not actually otherwise be infected. You see what I'm trying to say, like, they were on purpose provoking these viruses in these labs to move from animal to human, because they were that convinced that that's where the next levels of pathogens were going to come, that they were actually creating them that way themselves.

[Daniel Horowitz]

So I think that is where we need to achieve. One of the principles of justice that we were seeking with a Nuremberg trial is Covid was not the first time. And I think we know that a lot of these. I'm not going to say all of them, but a lot of these viruses that appeared post World War II that weren't around before, where did they come from? And two places you want to start with is obviously RSV and HIV, where there's already a lot of information on that. RSV was almost certainly a lab leak in the 50s.

[Aaron McIntyre]

And.

[Daniel Horowitz]

But again, it's not a lab leak in a vacuum. It's what we're talking about, this trend that we learned vividly in Covid, but retrospectively clearly was going on a long time before, which is that they would create the problem, the pretext for their product, which in itself often turned out to be harmful. So it's like, well, we got all these viruses now you got to take our product. Oh, and every human being and every organism born from now until the end of times, needs to get one, maybe two or three doses of it. This is the issue. You know, Covid was very unique in certain ways, but it was less unique in other ways than we think. And it really does implicate the broader vaccination agenda that emerged post World War II. That's what I'd like to see come out of this.

[Aaron McIntyre]

So there's some thought that this is an attempt to see if we can smoke this guy. He's 78 years old, all right. It carries with it, I think, at least five years in prison. So he would be looking at, with a conviction, probably spending the rest of his life in prison. There's some hope that maybe you smoke this guy out in order to generate enough of a hue and cry, a public outcry to now challenge on the merits the preemptive pardon that the Biden regime gave to Foushee and its auto pin on the way out the door. What are your thoughts on that?

[Daniel Horowitz]

No, I think. I think that's definitely what's going to happen here, because there's no way Foushee, he. He had his tentacles in. In heck, the HIV stuff is really where he cut his teeth.

[Aaron McIntyre]

Right.

[Daniel Horowitz]

So I think there's a straight line from this to all of Fauci's other research. So I agree with that. But again, it's not just a matter of punishing any one individual. It needs to result in a policy change. And, you know, you mentioned the. The jump starting of gain of function. Part of it was also the dichotomy between what was done onshore and offshore. And, and it's the latter that I believe never really stopped. And, you know, between DARPA and BARDA and many other, you know, programs within, you know, under secretaries of HHS that oversee this in all sorts of African countries, I mean, you know, remember the HIV funding under George W. Bush and all the do gooding stuff. And then unfortunately, a lot of, you know, religious institutions, evangelical churches got involved in that. You know, you read RFK's own book. I mean, he's the current HHS secretary of this administration, and his book pretty much laid out the case that a lot of that research was actually screwing with the people of Africa, getting them sick and experimenting on them in violation of Nuremberg.

[Aaron McIntyre]

Are there any. Let me ask it a different way. If we put the wonder woman lasso of truth on these kinds of people and ask them, what are you truly trying to accomplish here? What do you think their answers would be?

[Daniel Horowitz]

You know, I really do think there might be A dichotomy between Ralph Barrick and those type of guys and the corporate management at Pfizer. And I say that because I'm watching this play out with generative AI and the data centers and big tech. You have the people that, you know, it's just the good old fashioned, you know what people accuse the Rockefellers of doing. You just gaslight a society economically and culturally in a way that orients it towards your business model. And that's the age old venture socialism we've been in, involved in. But then there really are a class of people in science and technology that believe they're godlike and believe that they're put on this earth to perfect God's creation. And I really do believe that that's what people like Barrick believe. I really do believe it's about more than money for someone like that. They believe that, that the creation is imperfect and it's incumbent upon them to bring about superhumanity, reformed humanity, improved, perfected humanity. And again, I mean this ties into the biomedical security state, the transhumanism, the, the tech bros. And, and again Steve, I would argue that the tech bro stuff, you know, hate to hijack this, but I believe that is the next Covid, not just the next one, but the current one. And it's, and it follows that same train of thought.

[Aaron McIntyre]

So this is a worldview issue. Yes, this is this. So, so if since we got, since, you know, I reject God right at Genesis 1, something has to fill that space and it'll be my belief system, it'll be me, right?

[Daniel Horowitz]

They don't believe in an afterlife. They don't believe that there will be a judgment day and you'll be held account. And, and evidently there are some of them that really are scared of dying. And I think it, it just to zoom out on everything you and I discuss everything we're dealing with politically between those who fight for soulful, abstract whole of people, ideas versus special interests in that we understand this world is the first two minutes of the football game. It's really not a big deal. We're not scared to die. We're scared of God. But, but in a, in a, not in a abusive way. We understand we're going to give an account and the next world is the main thing. These people don't believe that. So they are genuinely terrified of the thought of dying. And I always wondered what it was like to be one of them because it's, it's, it's a pretty miserable thought that your soul gets ripped up and you just I guess become like an ant. You go into the ground and I

[Aaron McIntyre]

don't know what nobody and nobody cares.

[Daniel Horowitz]

That's what.

[Aaron McIntyre]

Yeah.

[Daniel Horowitz]

That's what motivates these people.

[Aaron McIntyre]

I agree. And I go.

[Todd Erzin]

Can I say something while it has to be.

[Aaron McIntyre]

Got about three minutes on.

[Todd Erzin]

On this day. I wanted to say while Daniel was still on. You know, I come from this world before COVID Getting to a day like this had a lot to do with people like me, but it had every bit as much, if not more, than people like Steve and Daniel and the work that they did in an incredibly fast period of time under incredible pressure to let you know the truth of this. People like me are in your debt for how you realized we have got to follow this thing to the end of the road. I say thank you to both of you.

[Aaron McIntyre]

Well, that's very appreciative, brother. Thank you very much. And I, and I do think we, we know the answer from this prosecution and the evidence. We've already seen to something you and I asked quite a bit back in those days, which is what changed from the February 28 New England Journal of Medicine article where Anthony Fauci correctly deduced with the exact. He was, I mean, almost precisely correct at what the IFR for Covid was eventually going to turn out to be, is almost exactly what he wrote in the New England Journal of medicine on February 28, when that was published, until March 9 when he went to Congress and essentially said, the sky is falling. You know, abandon hope, all ye who enter. And I think through these emails, through this, through this indictment yesterday, from his right hand man, I think what you and I long speculated has been confirmed, that somewhere in that period of time is when he found out it was not the China virus. Somewhere in that period of time is when he found out this was the preemptive SARS and MERS experimentation for a vaccine that they were doing that came out of that lab and that therefore this is part of our, our global partnership with our most favored nation trading partner. Just two happy superpowers, peas in a pod. And his hands and his department's hands were on the murder weapon. That and maybe the guidelines were printed in Mandarin, but his fingerprints were on the weapon. And I think that's what changed. I'll give you the last word.

[Daniel Horowitz]

I think this is the dichotomy of what King David talked about in, in Psalms, Let us fall in the hands of God and not in the hands of man. And that was the difference. You know, we thought we were in the hands of God, I mean, we always are. But that it was natural man made. We know what the IFR on that is because God doesn't create things that are that transmissible but have a high IFR unless there's man made genocidal intent involved in it. And, and that's clearly he was very well acquainted with that. And I think that's what we're going to discover.

[Aaron McIntyre]

Good to see you, brother. Thank you.

[Daniel Horowitz]

Take care.

[Aaron McIntyre]

God bless you. Bet you too. All right, thoughts on that conversation. Today's show. We got about a minute left.

[Steve Dace]

I'm so glad Daniel went there at the end. Can I put in just very hopefully succinct terms? What does it talk about when he's talking about godlessness? Fear of dying. If you are a top virologist who does not believe in the God of the Bible, if you are a virologist who does not believe in God whatsoever, you don't believe of the curse of sin and death. Which means that you go from, instead of looking at sickness and saying, I want to treat that sickness because it's an impossible, immovable reality of existence as a human, I'm going to treat that and mitigate suffering. You go from treating that to preventing that. And that sounds all well and good, but what you're actually doing is trying to subvert the curse. And I think God's gonna curse that every single time you're shaking your fist at God, even if you don't know that you're doing it. And that's really important. And I'm so glad that Daniel went there at the end.

[Todd Erzin]

Nothing sexier than Steve and Aaron talking anti vax stuff. I mean, that's my Barry White. Beautiful.

[Aaron McIntyre]

Like I said the other day, the most important truth you'll ever learn in life is God is God and I am not.

[Steve Dace]

Yes.

[Aaron McIntyre]

So inherently you have a. There's a limiting principle and it's called you. And we all have that exact same limiting principle. And if we don't agree to that, terrible consequences ensue. Go hard. Romans 8:28.