CENSORED: Did Steve Get BlazeTV BLACKLISTED? | Guest: Keith Malinak | 4/10/26

Summary

Steve Deace Show | "CENSORED: Did Steve Get BlazeTV BLACKLISTED?"

Date: April 10, 2026
Host: Steve Deace (The Blaze)
Guest: Keith Malinak (Pat Gray Show)
Regulars: Todd Erzin, Aaron McIntyre
Blaze Podcast Network

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Episode Overview

This episode delves into recent revelations that the U.S. government, via the State Department’s Global Engagement Center, targeted BlazeTV and other conservative media for censorship amid the COVID-19 pandemic and the 2020 election aftermath. The panel, with special guest Keith Malinak, also discusses the mounting chaos in American culture, divisions on the political right, and the ongoing Iran conflict. Throughout, Steve and his co-hosts analyze the dangers of institutional corruption, the erosion of core values, and the personal responsibility of Christians under siege—from both culture and government.

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Key Topics & Discussion Points

1. Cultural Chaos—"Bleep, Lord Nefarious Says"

[00:20–16:22] (Segment highlights: 00:20, 04:35, 05:29, 07:44, 12:10, 15:38)

• Montage Reaction: Aaron presents a "bleep" segment—a montage of controversial sound bites reflecting social, educational, and gender policy extremes.

• Panel Reactions: Keith calls out a mother changing book pronouns for her sons to erase male heroes as a sign of cultural confusion:

  “She is saying, I am never going to allow my son to see men as heroes, boys that can do amazing things just because they're boys... changing the he and the bedtime story to a she... Good luck kid.” (D, 05:29)

• Steve and Keith discuss the impossibility of forming a lasting conservative coalition, given divisions—and the necessity to unite against a radically ‘other side’:

  “We got to beat that other team. Holy crap, man. Those people are nuts.” (A, 07:16)

• GOP Failures: Keith rails against Republicans cashing in on not delivering:

  “We're being asked to vote for John McCain. It's much worse than that now... They clearly don't want to win... they love being on the side of opposition so they can go and fundraise...” (D, 10:17)

• Panel ranks "total depravity" (how bad is the cultural rot):

  • Todd: "10"
  • Aaron: "10"
  • Keith: "439—change the scale." (16:19)

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2. BlazeTV Blacklisted: Government Censorship Revelation

[17:20–28:18] (Highlights: 17:20, 18:21, 19:34, 20:39, 21:08, 22:38, 24:37, 25:28)

• Summary of Scandal: New documents show the State Department's Global Engagement Center funded contractors to flag "disinformation," placing BlazeTV alongside Russian outlets, threatening ad revenue and reach. Center has now been shut down.

• Personal Impact: Steve acknowledges his own on-air “fault”—pushing COVID skepticism and challenging 2020's result—likely targeted the Blaze.

  "This would have been... right in the peak of what we were doing to push back on the scamdemic narrative... me getting the entire Blaze Facebook page demonetized for calling out the election results of 2020." (A, 19:08)

• Keith's Outrage:

  "This is just one of those rare incidents where the federal government got caught. They're doing this stuff around the clock..." (D, 21:08)

• Panel Demands Action:

  • Todd: "Every legal avenue should be pursued. This should be part of the Blaze's branding... The devil hates us when we get up in the morning and we earn that right now." (B, 25:28)
  • Keith: "Let this be the lead for the Blaze, and this cannot be... just fade away like every other critical story..." (D, 26:28)
  • Aaron: "Is there a way to leverage this either in policy outcome or... make sure that this goes beyond a dollar sign..." (C, 27:14)

• Publisher vs. Platform: Steve notes this manipulation proves social networks are not “platforms” but “publishers”—they curate and boost content at will. (A, 28:18)

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3. When Does the US–Iran War End?

[31:47–43:09] (Key moments: 32:57, 36:12, 37:21, 39:30, 42:19)

• Aaron's Analysis: Iran’s regime might be approaching its “pain point” but expects a “messaged” rather than real surrender. True stability remains far off.

• Todd's Take: Expects combat to continue through at least the summer:

  "I just don't expect that we're out of here before sometime in the summer..." (B, 36:12)

• Keith's Perspective: “Victory” is ambiguous; likely US military will remain decades in the region, as in Germany or Japan:

  “I don't know what the end of this looks like, honestly...” (D, 37:21)

• American Public’s “Victory”:

  • Keith: “The Strait of Hormuz being open and gas prices coming down. That's all America cares about at this point.” (D, 39:30)
  • Todd/Aaron agree—direct impacts on daily life are what matter for most Americans.

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4. Should US Troops Intervene in Nigerian Christian Persecution?

[43:54–44:32]

• All three panelists say they’d at least consider it, with airstrikes or direct action—reflecting frustration at current US foreign priorities.

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5. Predictions

[44:46–47:45]

• Aaron: Iran operations wind down by Memorial Day.
• Todd: Predicts Ron DeSantis may become Trump’s attorney general.
• Keith: AOC runs for president in 2028; sports prediction for Nebraska football.
• Steve: Tucker Carlson will "question the legitimacy of the Holocaust" by end of 2026—signals severe concern about Tucker’s trajectory:

  “By the end of this year, Tucker Carlson is going to question the legitimacy of the Holocaust.” (A, 47:38)

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6. Audience Feedback & Spiritual Responsibility

[53:26–96:26] (Highlights: 54:08, 57:14, 59:09, 67:50, 71:37, 76:44)

• Mr. Ed’s Dilemma: Listener "Mr. Ed," a Christian mentor, is horrified to find his second-grade mentee being forced by parents to wear a "Hail Satan" hoodie. He asks if he should intervene more forcefully.

• Steve’s Challenge:

  “Somebody else prayed for that boy. So God sent you, Ed... That's why you're there." (A, 71:37) "Everyone within the sound of my voice is the solution to one of the problems in this country. All of us are." (A, 74:36)

  • Both Steve and Todd argue that Christians must know when to "obey God, not men"—especially in the face of abuse or spiritual neglect.
  • Todd: “Buy the kid another sweatshirt.” (B, 79:13)

• Reflections on Tucker Carlson’s “Descent”:

  • Steve and the panel express sorrow and concern at Tucker’s growing alignment with figures deconstructing Christianity and questioning WWII/Holocaust narratives.

  “If you were the devil and you wanted to... dismantle [the white evangelical voting block]... what would you do any differently than what Tucker has done in the last year?” (A, 87:20)

  • Todd: “He's so. He's such a desperate man right now... even when you have scripture in your hands, if there's no hope there, it's forfeit.” (B, 92:34)

• Catholic Church & Vatican III: Listener Lucas asks if a new ecumenical council is on the horizon—Todd thinks not soon, unless major change takes place.

• On Israel & Temple Mount: Steve warns against making theological dogma out of current events, rather than letting Scripture interpret events.

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Notable Quotes & Moments (with Timestamps)

• "These people are nuts... How is it even possible that this ecosystem could be allowed to inhabit air, let alone tolerate people like us?" —Steve, 07:16

• "We're being asked to vote for John McCain. Actually, it's much worse than that now... Republicans clearly don't want to win." —Keith, 10:17

• "You’re not doing your job in conservative media if they're not coming after you like this." —Todd, 18:27

• "They're legit trying to harm us. They're legit trying to limit our reach now for going on six years." —Steve, 22:38

• "If you can turn down the switch, you can turn it back up again... They're not a platform, they're a publisher." —Steve, 28:18

• "I have those lines, which is why they’ll never ask me to cross them because they know my answer will be no..." —Steve, 59:45

• “You all need to know what is the point where I obey God and not man? And you should be equipped for that... because I truly fear the one who can cast my eternal soul into hell.” —Steve, 60:08

• “Everyone within the sound of my voice is the solution to something wrong with the country. All of us are.” —Steve, 74:36

• "Right now, what he's totally missing is the hope. It's a totally hopeless presentation." —Todd on Tucker, 92:34

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Conclusion / Final Takeaways

The episode is a powerful and often raw exploration of what Deace and his team see as a landscape of spiritual warfare, political betrayal, and cultural nihilism. The show's distinctive mix of principle, urgency, and snark is on full display.

• The Blaze panel demands boldness—both from conservative media (in fighting back against censorship) and from everyday Christians in standing for truth, even at personal cost.
• The scope of institutional rot—government abuses, corrupt platforms, moral chaos—fuels frustration and renewed resolve to not surrender the field.
• The ongoing Iran conflict is debated, but panel agrees "victory" for most Americans means stable gas prices, not lofty geostrategic goals.
• The spiritual crisis (epitomized in Mr. Ed’s story) is a call to action: refuse complacency, become the answer to prayer, and draw lines worth suffering for.

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Additional Links / Resources

• For more on the BlazeTV censorship revelations, check: BlazeTV – State Dept. Censorship Coverage
• Feedback or comments: stevedace.com inbox

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Tone:
Snarky, urgent, deeply conservative, unapologetically faith-centered, occasionally humorous—reflective of a group both mournful and combative about cultural decline.

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Summary prepared for those seeking an accessible yet comprehensive overview of the major topics, perspectives, and action items discussed in the April 10, 2026 episode of The Steve Deace Show.

Transcript

[A]

And greetings. I beat the rain made it in from Philadelphia last night despite the torrential downpour that's been happening in our state here this week. I am Steve Dates back here in the saddle again here in the comfy confines alongside Utah. Erzin and Aaron McIntyre are our pal and colleague here at the Blaze. Keith Malanak will be joining us here momentarily for the DACE group. We are brought to you by our friends over at Fast Growing Trees. One thing you know is that if it's Masters weekend, that means spring has officially sprung and Fast Growing Trees, they've got the largest and most trusted online nursery in the country. Everything that you or your yard or home needs from fruit trees, privacy trees, flowering trees, shrubs, houseplants and all the more. And all grown with care and guaranteed to arrive healthy with their alive and thrive guarantee. So right now, get great deals on spring planting essentials, up to half off on select plants and you'll get another 20% off if you use my promo code DACE. When you go to fast growing trees dot com, that's fast growing trees. Again, use the code DACE to get another 20 off. They're already everyday low prices at fast growing trees dot com. All right. Next hour it'll be your turn on a feedback Friday, but let's kick it off with a day screen. Good to see you, Keith. Thank you for joining us today and sticking around a little bit longer after the early morning on the Pac Ray show. It's good to see you, my friend. Let's get to it. Your weekly look at the week that was begins as it always does with issue one, bleep. Lord Nefarious says Christianity is more and

[B]

I don't like the word socialist with the, with the, the weight it carries.

[C]

But Christianity and it's is socialism at its core, non authoritarian.

[A]

Book of Esther, which is in the Christian Old Testament, a controversial book. For a long time, Martin Luther thought it shouldn't have been there. But it is there. And it's the story, among other things,

[C]

of a genocide of Persians.

[D]

So often it is black and brown

[B]

New Yorkers who are hit the hardest.

[A]

This preliminary racial equity plan is the

[D]

first step in developing a whole of government approach to tackling that reality.

[A]

No decent person mocks other people's religions. You may have a problem with the theology, presumably you do if it's not your religion and you can explain what that is. But to mock other people's faith is to mock the idea of faith itself. And we should never mock that.

[C]

When the budget was released, I was

[A]

Shocked to find out that Prime Minister Carney is cutting $7 billion between Indigenous

[C]

Services Canada and Crown Indigenous Relations.

[A]

They provided $0 to deal with the ongoing genocide of MMIW 1734-67-321476 Charlie 327-8977, 7G2SLGBTQIA plus this is abhorrent.

[C]

We leave no man behind.

[A]

That is, of course, the old school version. The general knows, unlike Pete Hegseth, that that could have been a woman they were trying to rescue. What I've done with both my daughters and my sons is if I'm reading

[B]

a book and the protagonist is a

[A]

male, I just change the he to a she.

[B]

And it just normalizes.

[A]

For my sons in particular, it's not even. I don't even just do it for my girls. I do it for my sons because I want them to see that women can be the center of a story. Working on legislation to hold tech companies accountable and help them be a force for good in our kids and families lives, to really provide all the best in class resources and support for youth so that they don't go down this rabbit hole of very, very dangerous and limiting narratives around ultimately what it means to be a girl and what it means to be a boy. Do you have a trans child?

[C]

And how did your child know they were transgender?

[D]

They let me know when they were six years old.

[A]

What I have come to realize over the last year is that for many of the folks that you see taking

[C]

up oxygen on the other side of

[A]

the aisle, they go viral once, they

[C]

will debase themselves and inflict collateral damage on anyone else in pursuit of that next high.

[A]

So that was terrible. That was terrible. I mean that. And yet it didn't feel as terrible as the last time we had one of these. Yeah, it did. Okay, let's get to the first question. And Keith, as the guest, you get the first crack at it. Crack here being the operative word because you probably had to smoke some of that to get through watching that thing. Again, what was the most. What was the most terrible of terribles that you just witnessed, Keith? And why?

[D]

First of all, Aaron, you continue to outdo yourself. Thank you so much for giving us these wonderful platters of fun. I'm gonna say Jennifer News. And the reason I picked her is because it's her child. It's her child. She is saying, I am never going to allow my son to see men as heroes, boys that can do amazing things just because they're boys. And I think that that's the tiebreaker all of these are just incredible sound bites from our society. But I think the fact that she's talking about changing the he and the bedtime story to a she and changing the pronouns. Good luck. Good luck, kid.

[A]

Here's the thing, especially the back end of. Of. Of that montage, Keith and I. And I want to get your reaction to this because you gave us a little disclaimer before. Right before we went on the air. All right?

[D]

Yeah.

[A]

All right. And. And you said to me, goes, listen, I got to warn you guys, I am. I'm going to be pretty negative on most of these topics. And I. I. What did I tell you? You cannot possibly be more of a Debbie Downer than Robino was on this show two weeks ago. I mean, Robino. Robino had people looking for long walks off of short cliffs. Okay? Okay. That's what he had people looking for. All right? But. So here's the thing. Here's the thing. We have. Before we even take away the clown segment of the people in our industry. Take that away. All right? There is some real serious disagreement happening on our side on multiple fronts on issues and directions that we do need to hash out, okay? And the. And. And you start thinking to yourself, there's just no way we could ever be a coalition again. And then I don't know if you intended this or not, Aaron. You watch the last third of that montage and you look at what the other side represents, and you're like, listen, man, I. I don't know if I can sit next to this guy over here wearing my uniform. I don't know if I want to share the ball with him. I don't want to pass the ball to him. I don't know if I want him blocking for me. Okay? But we got to beat that other team. Holy crap, man. Those are. Those people are nuts. Those people are nuts. Okay? How is it even possible that. That. That this could. This ecosystem could be allowed to inhabit air, all right? Let alone tolerate people like us. Did you get that feeling a little bit, at least, watching the last third of this talk?

[B]

I have that feeling every day. I don't need that to feel that. Yes.

[A]

Right.

[B]

Which means if we do lose to that, it's righteous. It will be earned. God will intend it, because it shouldn't happen.

[A]

Keith, since I originally directed it to you, what are your thoughts on that?

[D]

I think that's what the Republican Party. I think that that is their. What they're always counting on that. That we will actually be so terrified of the other side that.

[B]

That.

[D]

That's how they will 100 retain power. And. And that is. I am so sick and damn tired of that. And. And here we are heading into November, and that's the evil that we're going to lose to. Incredible.

[A]

I don't know anybody that has. That has risen as far in the ranks as I have, Keith, that has done more shows than I have expressing the frustration that you just did. Okay, but. But see, I kind of now feel like all the stuff that you and I grew up listening to, Glenn Beck and Rush Limbaugh and Sean Hannity and Mark Levin, and you think of the. The previous generation of these guys, right? Okay. That do what we do, all the stuff that they warned us that Democrats would do if we let them, and that this is what they really mean when they say this stuff. It kind of feels like, you know, that. That we are here now, that they're actually saying it and they're actually just doing it out loud now. I mean, that might be the next first lady in the United States. I. I don't allow my son to see masculine role models. I mean, and. And so I now feel trapped. Just. I didn't mean to turn this into confession time, but I. Let's do it. All right. Since we have. We've got. We've got our cousin Keith here in town. All right. All right. So he's not here in the family having all these discussions all the time. Cousin Keith, this is now how I kind of feel. I kind of feel like I'm not afforded the luxury of pointing out that this is the scam the Republican Party has pulled on us my entire career and lifetime. All right? Because frankly, all the evil stuff that used to just be talking points, it's now, like, all true. You see what I'm trying. I mean, I got kids, adult kids, trying to raise my grandkids in this world, you know, And. And so I feel trapped. I would love to just sit here and say, y' all deserve to lose. This is a clown show now. You want a fun Planned Parenthood? Our mortal enemies. You're going to do that now, too. Screw. I Hope you lose 60. I'd love to do that. My. Trust me, my heart is like, yes, go do it. Do it. My brain is like, bro. Bro. And this is the war I. That it goes on internally within me daily.

[D]

So much there. There's so much there. I mean, this is. We are continually expected to just accept the lesser of two evils. We're being. It's actually much, much worse than my analogy that popped in my mind, which was we're being asked to vote for John McCain. Actually, it's, it's much worse than that now. And you remember the last time I was here, actually, and I'm so glad we got this segment, because I was sitting here thinking. We had a. You had a question at the end of last year, Steve, and you said, what's one piece of legislation you would like to see the Republicans get passed and codified into law in 2026? Anybody remember what I said? It was the SAVE Act. And here we are now, three and a half months into the new year, and where are we there? I mean, that would do so much good. And it would. This is where I think that Republicans clearly don't want to win, because this would shore up election integrity. And most people, I think even the Democrat Party, realize that that would be a net positive for the Republicans. Yet you can't get the Republicans to get that thing passed. They don't want to win. And it's just to realize that we're rooting for a group of politicians that show no inclination. And I don't even think it's a Donald Trump thing anymore. I just think that they love being on the side of opposition. So they can go and fundraise and they can stay in D.C. and maybe they don't have to get enough done, but they could at least hang around at the parties and go and say how bad the other. You should reelect me, because look at the hook at those other guys. And I'm so sick and damn tired of that. And that's where we're at. I mean, they could fix so much and they refused to fix anything.

[A]

So, Aaron, same question to you now. What was the most terrible of terribles, other than what you just heard from Keith, which sadly might be true. What else from your montage? What was the most terrible of terribles?

[C]

Well, the back half, I think, is. I think it's summed up in the last clip, actually. Tim McBride on a podcast. Congressman Tim McBride on a podcast talking about how those on the other side of the aisle who take up so much oxygen just do it because they want attention and they are, quote, willing to debase themselves for that attention. Now there's some truth to that. But Tim, out of projection. Can I. Can I call you Tim?

[D]

Right.

[C]

Have you looked in a mirror recently?

[A]

Yeah, yeah.

[C]

Trainee, heal thyself much? And that, I think it just sums up the last half of that montage. The moral chaos from. What is his name, the guy on Msnbc who's still sticking around.

[A]

I'm going there saying that could have

[C]

been a woman that they, that they rescued. Cut to Jen Newsome. Yeah. I want my sons to know that a woman can be at the center of the story. Cut to my. We need to advance legislation to make sure that young children don't have, you know, unapproved notions of what it means to be a girl and a boy. Cut to my son, daughter, whatever. My child told me they were a tranny when they were 6. Cut to Republicans just do all of this for attention. Just chaos. It's chaos.

[A]

It is.

[C]

What have I always said? Chaos is the language of hell.

[A]

Yep. There you go, Todd, you're right. Thank you for subtly reminding me that I skipped by you. So by all means, swing away. Yeah.

[B]

Keith, to your point, not wanting to win because this, the SAVE act, is what your analysis on it specifically is undeniably true. But polling higher than anything is transgender issues in terms of a win. And I've seen it with my own eyes here in Iowa before we had ever heard of Riley Gaines when my daughter rallied the troops here in Iowa her senior year of high school. Once she brought 50 of her friends from central Iowa to that Capitol, I just saw the Democrats literally ran in caucus and hid until they went home because the cameras were running. We can win on this issue all the time, whenever they want to based on that montage alone and their lack of willingness to. To do so on that and other issues. And then you put that next. And this is my point about Lawrence, Lawrence o', Donnell. Because this just happened in my own home last night with my own youngest daughter, my 15 year old daughter, who is a potential D1 athlete herself, her older sister is dating a Marine, so she understands intimately the difference between men and women. And she's watching Lawrence o' Donnell make that statement on the news it was on and she's looking at it and she's just like, what? She's a very highly accomplished young woman. I have four daughters. They are highly accomplished. None of them believe that garbage. They know it's crazy. But what I didn't have the heart to tell her is that that's a guy who's unafraid to preach his gospel to his base while we just, like he says, want to lose.

[A]

On a scale of 1 to 10, with 1 being the odds that any female within the sound of my voice needs to be concerned about being sexually harassed by Senator Lindsey Graham, and 10 being the odds the ruggedly handsome, debonair and dashing Keith Malinick most definitely does. Watch your six, Keith. If you're ever in the Palmetto State, watch your six. Actually, no, Lindsey Graham's never there, so you're safe. If you're ever in D.C. all right? If you're ever in D.C. watch your six, brother. All right, Rank this week's level of total depravity. Todd.

[B]

Or at Disneyland. 10.

[A]

Aaron.

[C]

10.

[A]

Keith.

[D]

439.

[A]

439.

[D]

Change the scale.

[A]

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[C]

New details are emerging about a federal government program that allegedly targeted Blaze Media for censorship. The State Department's Global Engagement center, originally created to counter foreign terrorism propaganda, funded private tech companies to monitor and flag so called disinformation online. But according to discovery evidence obtained by a now settled lawsuit, that surveillance was turned on domestic media, including Blaze Media. Documents show that between December 2020 and January of 2021 government backed contractors ran a test that placed Blaze Media alongside Sputnik News, a Russian state outlet, as an example of disinformation propagators. That same network backed tools designed to blacklist conservative outlets and cut off their advertising revenue. Secretary of State Marco Rubio later acknowledged that the agency had actively silenced and censored the voices of Americans. The Global Engagement center was shut down earlier this year. The Federalist and a number of others sued the government. The Federalists settling that case last week.

[A]

All right, Todd, as the show ombudsman, you get the first crack at this one. What's your reaction to this story?

[B]

It's an honor. It's a privilege. Print T shirts, all of our advertising. I mean, I'm just the schmuck who sits next to Steve. But, like, everybody, turn this up to 11 nonstop. This is a sign that you were over the target. You were sufficiently dangero. This is superhero stuff. This is why you're a part of the hall of Justice. The Blaze should be making sure publicly it does everything it can to die on this hill, because it is. I mean, I can't stress enough. You're not doing your job in conservative media if they're not coming after you like this.

[A]

So the reason why, Aaron, I said I'm probably to blame for at least some of this, of course, is because this would have been right. Yep. In the peak of what we were doing to push back on the scamdemic narrative. This also would have been on the heels of me getting the entire Blaze Facebook page demonetized for calling out the election results of 2020. So clearly something here. Some of this was. Was probably my fault, but what's your reaction to it?

[C]

I just find it ironic. I just find it incredibly ironic because it's obvious that you're part of this. It's obvious because of. Because of the time, timeline and this. These are documented cases. You've talked about this on the air, you've written about this online. I just find it exceedingly ironic. When you get a request from rt,

[A]

what usually happens, it goes in the circular file. I've gotten numerous over the years.

[C]

When you get a request from rt,

[A]

the emails and stuff they sent to Lawrence, they sent some of that Government

[C]

put you on a list next to Sputnik.

[A]

Yeah, I know.

[C]

Just unbelievable. You have tried to avoid RT for good reason, because they're a Russian state propaganda outlet, and our own government probably puts you Blaze media on a list right next to Sputnik, Sputnik News or whatever it is. I just. That's the peak irony and the peak, I think, indication of how corrupt, decrepit and dirty and just the depth that the swamp needs to be drained. That's just. That's just another indication how deep the rot goes.

[A]

So, Keith, my understanding is this is a program started by Obama, but then was eventually, as Aaron pointed out in his introduction, weaponized here domestically. And this would have been at the tail end the final weeks of Trump's first term, and then the first few weeks of Biden's first only term. That would have been the crossover event of when this program started by Obama was then weaponized domestically and targeted us here at the Blaze. What's your reaction to this story?

[D]

I just, I love how they come up with these names. The Global Engagement Center. That's beautiful. This is, this is just one of those rare incidences incidents is when the federal government got caught. They're doing this stuff around the clock in so many ways. So shout out to what was it the Daily Wire and the Federalist for the discovery documents that showed this. Because this is happening. We know it's happening. It's just rare that we get to see it in the light of day. What's so beautiful is this stuff is always set up to be for our own protection. We've got to stop disinformation. We got to stop foreign actors from influencing our politics here in America. Yeah, the CIA ignores its charter. The spy tools of the NSA are used against us. The Patriot act is turned against us. All these things that were meant to stop. You know, by the way, FISA going to get renewed a week from Tuesday. So that'll be fun on the warrantless searches that will continue there. But this is, this is just in addition to all of the stuff that we know about and I'm, I'm angry about it as an American. Never mind the fact that they are, they played with people. People we know, our livelihoods, our company's very existence was just played with by our government. I'm angry and I really hope the Blaze pursues this.

[A]

I mean I'm, I'm sitting right now, according to YouTube, I have 22,000 YouTube subscribers on my current YouTube channel. All right. A show. If that's all I could accumulate those. There's no way the Blaze would give me a weekly spot, let alone one of the drive time anchor daily spots on this network since 2018. They would have never done it. And it's, it's truly amazing that we have been able to turn this into a seven digit show without forget not getting any help from YouTube. They're legit trying to harm us. They're legit trying to limit our reach now for going on six years. And is it somewhat of a limiting principle that you can't generate any consistent traffic as a video show on the largest video platform in the history of the planet? It's a somewhat limiting, it's a somewhat limiting principle. But this is what we are up against all of the time. All of the time. And Keith, I'm glad that you brought up the FISA thing, because here's the thing about that. If Trump was renewing that, because he's like, well, I'm going to go after my enemies now. I'm going to do them like they did us. All right? We're going to do this the Chicago way. And we got to send a message. Mutually assured destruction. You guys don't get to do this. And we're going to punish you now so that you learn your lesson. I'd be a hundred percent for that. I have a very. But I'm 100, but I'm about 99 sure. That is not what we will be doing with the FISA program. We'll be like, well, we'll. We'll have our hands 10 and 2 on the steering column. We'll get off. We'll make sure we're, you know, within the parameters of the speed limits here, and we will manage this entirely unconstitutional lack of judicial review program with limitless warranty search capabilities. We'll make sure we, we manage this on the up and up and professionally so that, of course, it remains fully and totally intact for the next time, which could be as soon as this November, our enemies get control of the government and they are able to then go ahead and weaponize it against the next generation of. Of Republicans like they did me. I'm pretty confident that's actually going to be our plan.

[B]

Listen, all I know is when you're fighting enemies like we're fighting, you need to be Purge worthy. And you, you were so well done, good and faithful servant like me, walking around Carlisle. By the end of that time, I had cops following me around town because they were so sick of me winning on all the rules of the game. And that's what, that's what you did. Writ large here. They couldn't, they couldn't ignore you anymore. That is a feather in your cap in the hardest of times, during both. During COVID transgenderism. Government interference, you said? Yeah. I'm not taking this anymore. That's why it's an honor to sit at this desk every day. Well done.

[A]

Thank you. Let's get to the exit question so we have time to discuss it. You've got about four minutes left in this segment. All right. What, if anything, should the Blaze do in response to this? Todd, to go back to you. Since I started with you, I'll end it with you. Go ahead.

[B]

Well, every, Every legal avenue should be pursued, but this is also, without exception, without shame. This should be part of the Blaze's branding This is why the Blaze and other entities like it exist. It's. It's not just. It's not just a business. It is. It has to be missional. And I wish it could be something closer to more of a business, but like I said, we're fighting the enemies we're fighting and they are wicked and they are evil. So make this part of the branding. The devil hates us when we get up in the morning and we earn that right now.

[A]

Keith, what do you think?

[D]

I'm 100% with you there, every legal avenue needs to be taken. It couldn't have been a more perfectly timed PR boost for the Blaze and they need to take full advantage of it. And why?

[A]

Has anything been happening now? No, I mean, I was out of town. I don't know if it's been going any. Finish your point, Keith. Finish your point.

[D]

Let that one go, Steve. So anyway, I just would say that this, you're absolutely branding with. This absolutely has to be the lead for the Blaze, and this cannot be. This is what's going to happen, because it always does when something that should be earth shattering and, And. And should shake every citizen of this Republic to their core should be the biggest story until. I don't know how you make the Blaze whole, but it should be front and center forever. And it's the Blaze's job to make sure that it stays out there and this does not just fade away like every other critical story that just fades into the ether.

[A]

No.

[D]

Keep pursuing this, please.

[A]

Amen to that. Aaron.

[C]

Whatever outcome that is actually attainable, that goes beyond a dollar sign, and I don't think anybody at the Blaze would be upset with maybe some sort of a settlement. I don't think that at all. But is there a way to leverage this either in policy outcome or. Policy outcome? Is there a way to pursue this with maximum prejudice so that we get maybe some permanent solutions here, maybe some leverage in places that we maybe didn't have before. If those are the rules of the game that the Deep State just gets to do what they want, but the actual rules say the rules that the Deep State makes up aren't actually the law. Is there a way that we can leverage this within the Deep State's rules? I don't know, I'm just kind of spitballing here. Is there a way to make sure that this goes beyond a dollar sign

[A]

that

[C]

you know what, in the future, not only are you not going to censor us, you're actually gonna boost us. If those are the rules now, if you can turn down the switch? Can you turn it back on?

[A]

You can obviously turn it up, then. Sure you could. I mean, that's. That's what we're learning here, that if you can turn down the switch, you can turn it back up again. And you're just seeing this in how certain algorithms listen. Like I said yesterday, if you want to know, and this is true for all of you watching and listening at home too, okay, if. If you want to know what the algorithms from Silicon Valley are boosting on the right, just look at anything Benny Johnson posts and says. And that's not a joke, even though it's kind of funny. But it's. You know why it's funny? It's true. All right? I mean, he's literally like, mainline plugged in, all right? To the. To the Matrix. Like, literally. Okay, so whatever. Whatever the. The. The Matrix says on our side, it will allow to trend, it will allow to be seen, it will allow to be discussed. Okay? Is. Is literally anything Benny Johnson says or right says, it rights 100%. So Aaron is correct. What if they can. If they. If they can. If they can put their thumb on the scale to. To demonetize and to diminish, then they can do it as well to boost and to raise. Which means, by the way, they're not a platform, they're a publisher. That's what it means. Because those are the kinds of things that publishers do. Platforms are your bulletin boards. I mean, they can't stop you from thumbtacking something at the wall. All right, Publishers can, though. More in a moment. The steve day show. All right, back here on the Steve Day show, brought to you by our friends over at Jace Medical. And what I love about Jace is that they came to us because they saw what was going on during the scamdemic, and it was still going on when they came to us. They came to us because they were concerned that. That the system had taken drugs that had won Nobel prizes like Ivermectin and just called it junk science and dangerous and horse paste and drugs like hydroxychloroquine that had saved hundreds of thousands of lives all over the world and was available over the counter. And now don't touch it. But here, instead, here. Here's a drug called Paxlovid that we. We. It was a black box warning. Failed cancer drug that might fail your kidneys and won't help you get Covid, but take that instead. That's why they came to us. Because they're like, hey, if they're going to do that with new stuff. What will they do to the old venerable stuff like the penicillin and the doxycyclines? And so that's where the original idea for the Jace case came from. Over the years now they have grown as a company. They've grown what they provide as well, all kinds of preparedness, first aid, medical stuff. So that and a lot of the medications that you and your family may need so that you know you've got peace of mind for that could never happen here. The next time that happens again, again and again and again. All right. So go to jace.com J A S E use the promo code DACE. D A C E get a discount on your [e-mail] promo code DACE. And let's welcome back in our friend and colleague Keith Malinick from the Pat Gray show right here on Blaze tv. Let's continue on with your weekly look at the week that was with issue three, when does this end?

[C]

Or how Vice President J.D. vance sported Air Force Two Friday morning on his way to Islamabad, Pakistan for cease fire negotiations with Iran and gave a warning to the regime not to dink around on his time.

[A]

We're looking forward to the negotiation. I think it's going to be positive. We'll of course, see, as the president United States said, if the Iranians are willing to negotiate in good faith, we're certainly willing to extend the open hand. If they're going to try to play us, then they're going to find that the negotiating team is not that receptive. So we're trying to have a positive negotiation. The president has gave us some pretty clear guidelines lines and we're going to

[C]

see the negotiations come after. A very tenuous, if at all actuated ceasefire was announced by President Trump and Iranian Foreign Minister Aragachi earlier this week. Israel contends their operation in Lebanon against Hezbollah was never part of the ceasefire. Iran disagrees. Israel continued their campaign. Iran's grip on the Strait of Hormuz seems to still be in full effect, though a full and free reopening of the choke point was allegedly included in the deal. Who knows if any deal will hold?

[A]

All right, Aaron, you get to start this topic off. It's your turn. When does this war in Iran end or how?

[C]

So I'm torn here. And part of me wants to say that, yes, this is a regime run by Islamic fundamentalist cultists, basically, and that they would rather die than than even show a whiff of weakness. But as I pointed out to Todd on the show that you Weren't here, that would have been Wednesday's show. If you read that, that statement from Prime Minister Argachi, it's one of these things is not like the other. Because usually he was the guy on that Saturday morning we woke up and, hey, we're dropping bombs on. On Tehran, we're dropping bombs on the Supreme Leader. He was the guy who went on television right away and said, nothing to see here, things are going on according to plan. He has been one of the foremost, and it's not a surprise, foremost messengers of Iranian maximalism when it comes to any sort of ceasefire. But that statement he put out, if it's actually accurate, it's the one that President Trump's shared. It doesn't sound as maximalist, doesn't say much about the United States. It's thanking Pakistan, things of that nature. So are they crying uncle? Maybe? Probably not. But here's the deal. Yes, they're run by fundamentalists. Does that fundamentalism run deep enough to. Basically, the entire country goes down with them. And here's what I mean. Yes, they are servants of Satan. I do believe that the irgc, not Iran as a whole, the people of Iran, and you get the distinction here. The regime, I think, are servants of Satan, but they don't have the type of wherewithal, they don't have the type of resolve that can only come from the one true king. What I'm trying to say here is, yes, a lot of them would rather die than signal weakness, but I do think that they're human beings. At the same time, I do think maybe we are closer to the point, the pain point, than I thought with Iran. Now, this could all change by Monday. This is going to all change by the end of this show. I do think we are maybe closer to that pain point where they cry uncle. They're gonna message it differently. But I do think we're closer to that at this point than maybe we even were yesterday. And just looking at markets as well, yes, there's been much hullabaloo about the trickle of shipping through the Strait of Hormuz. Seeing the markets, they're not really saying the same thing because they dropped like a rock earlier this week and they've kind of treaded water, so to speak, since then. So I think we might be closer, but I don't know. So when do we get out? To answer your question, when do we get out? It could be as soon as the middle of next week, when we. On paper, middle of next week. Our forces aren't gonna pull out there till the end of summer at the earliest, I would say. But in terms of an official off ramp, it could come fairly soon. I think, again, this is all fluid. That's where I am on a Friday morning.

[A]

I want to give everybody a chance to answer that question and then we'll see how much time we have left for any redirects. Todd, same question to you.

[B]

I don't think we're getting out anytime until somewhere in the summer. I think Israel is locked in to goals that it has. I don't think they're going to stop for a while. I think, you know, Glenn has been talking for weeks. He indicated, you know, that that's part of the reason they're here, so that America can manage expectations, because it's not just about Israel's goals. That strait of Hormuz thing is hanging over the head of it and the entire world. So, and you know, we've been talking about markets and calming them down and everything. How do we just walk away from this thing if that thing continues to be in chaos? I just, I just don't expect that we're out of here before sometime in the summer when at least the election and hey, BB if you want any kind of relationship at all, you know, I have to have, you know, power and not be getting impeached on the daily. So maybe it stops then, but I don't think it stops before it.

[A]

Keith, same question to you

[D]

is when does this end or how? Right. Well, I, I've been told by the president of the United States at least half a dozen times now that the war is over and that we won. He said that multiple times. Pete Hegseth has said that as recently as this week. So, honest question, I'm not trying to be cheeky here. Will we ever know when this is over? Because it probably ends with American assets staying in the region inside the borders of our new Gulf State besties. And we can just hang out there in the neighborhood and circle the block and keep an eye on Iran and see if we really trust this new regime. And, and by the way, those Gulf states that were so dependent on our defenses, protecting them, several items got through that caused quite a bit of damage in those countries. So I think that they would actually be open to more of US Military assets hanging out in the region, and we'll probably hang out there for several decades to come, much the way we are in Germany and Italy and Japan more than 80 years after World War II ended. So I'm just thinking there's not going to be A clear this is over. I truly think that this thing is just going to continue to happen because he can claim victory. No nukes decimated their military. We have regime change done. So it's over. Whenever he wants to say it's over. The president, and he'll probably continue to claim victory for the next two and a half years, every third week or so. So I don't know, I just, I don't know what the end of this looks like, honestly.

[A]

As a follow up question then, what does victory look like to the American people? What would it look like to them? Yeah, so I'll go back to you first, Keith, this time. Go ahead.

[D]

Sorry about that. Yeah. The Strait of Hormuz being open and gas prices coming, that's all America cares about at this point. I, I, with a minimal, with a,

[A]

with the minimal loss of American life it would take to make that happen. Right. As a, as a caveat.

[D]

Absolutely.

[B]

Yeah.

[D]

Thank you. That is a very necessary caveat. Now, as far as active military participation over in, in Iran, when this thing started out, and I've talked about this on my show, when this thing started out, I was good with two months. You know what? Yeah, let's, let's, let's use the, the war powers act as a guidepost. That's fine. And then a week after that, after we started going to town there in Iran, my son was informed that he would be shipping off. So April 28th was my deadline, my personal deadline. And he got his orders that he would be shipping out and joining the Air Force, going to boot camp on April 28th. So I thought, you know what? Yep. We're going to stick with that as my timeline. Maybe I'm just a selfish military dad, but I would rather not see this thing escalate beyond that.

[A]

Okay. What's victory look like to the American people? Keith says the Strait of Hormuz is open. Gas prices come down. With the minimal loss of American lives it took to make that happen.

[B]

Yeah, I mean, that was more or less the point of I was making in saying why I think it's going to go into the summer. I think Keith and I are tracking in very much the same light. And you can't walk away right now with Hormuz looking like that. And you look like a damn fool if you walk away and then you get back into it again.

[A]

You can't hand whatever is the Iranian regime. Right. So I talked to an Israeli source of mine today who's very, very well informed, and this source was adamant there's no way we're putting boots on the ground in Iran to do regime change. We can't. We don't have the manpower. We've got way too many terrorists that we still have to eliminate in the northern part of the country. There's maybe a hundred thousand Hezbollah agents in the northern part of Israel. We've got to expunge from our. And he goes, we're not like you guys. We're gonna. We're gonna actually do mass deportations. These are probably just gonna be the hard way. Okay, we're gonna get rid of these people. And he said, and the thing is, we cease fired in Gaza and. And no one has come forward at all on. On the Muslim side to try to run the place that wasn't Hamas, because we're probably gonna have to go back in there too. All right. And mow the lawn again. All right? So he's like, we don't have the. We don't have the manpower for that, is what he told me. Okay, so then we cannot. If we're gonna leave, then another. A younger generation of Iran, Iranian Revolutionary Guard people, IRGC people in charge. We can't just hand them the leverage of the Straits of Hormuz to just do this over and over again. We can't do that. Right. Aaron, what about you?

[C]

I agree. The immediate win, or the immediate impact would be gas prices, shipping, and all of the downstream impacts of that, because the derivatives of petroleum products that get shipped to Asia are felt in different ways here in the United States. So that's one thing. But in terms of the Meta win, that's the complicated thing. Because if this is truly a permanently changed, you know, Iran, where they're not able to project power, and they don't want to either, because they learned a hard lesson. We won't know that for a decade. If this is an unchanged Iran, we'll know that in pretty short order. So that's the Meta victory, but the more immediate victory thing, that's what the American people care about. It would be gas prices. Yes.

[A]

All right, so you guys kind of already answered my exit question. So, Keith, were you going to say something there really quick? We got a few. I got one minute. If you had one more thing you wanted to add.

[D]

No, the only thing I would add is Mark Rudda said that he's tasked with getting NATO members on board over the next few days, that he got his marching orders from President Trump to get some help in the Strait of Hormuz. If they want to get energy out

[A]

of there, it's Gonna be interesting, our representative to NATO, Matt Whitaker. I mean I've known Matt Whitaker for 25 years. He's from right here in the state of Iowa. Known him since he was a former University of Iowa football player. And so he is, you know, he's on the front lines of quite the grind right now. Matt is. All right, let's get to our kicker topic quickly. Point blank, if you were president, would you send US troops into Nigeria to stop the savage Christian persecution there? Todd?

[B]

I would absolutely consider it.

[A]

You would?

[B]

Absolutely.

[A]

Aaron?

[C]

Yes. And to some degree we've already done some limited strikes. You remember what happened on Christmas?

[A]

That's true. Keith, what about you?

[D]

Yeah, I would consider it, but I think I would stick with the airstrikes that have already been accepted and invited into the country by Nigerians government.

[A]

I did not expect all three of you to say you'd at least consider it on some level. I did not expect that from all three.

[B]

Just war theory. What's more worth saving? Minneapolis and Tim Walls bathhouses or the Christian community of Nigeria?

[A]

Well, listen, if you're going to, you're going to preach to me like that and cut me to the quick, Shrek. Okay. Yeah. Are we going to put it like that? All right. Cut me deep, Shrek. You cut me deep. All right, let's get to predictions. Aaron, go.

[C]

I believe we will start to see serious wind downs of operations by the Memorial Day mark. So winding down, that can mean a lot of things. But we will at least on paper and maybe even physically as well start to see a wind down of the enhanced operations. We're not going to leave our bases anytime soon in the Middle East. We will see a wind down of these special operations though.

[B]

All right, Todd, I think it's Hail Mary time. As long as he's willing to do it. I think Ron DeSantis is going to get a shot at AG. I think there's a win win there. You get him in or even you put him in there and they light him on fire and they don't put some.

[A]

Well listen, Donald Trump loves Ron Desantis. They are very close. Okay. Contrary to everything you see from the 75 people with gators in their bio who think it's still the summer of 2023 online. And six, Trump, you know, grifter whores. Trump and DeSantis have a great relationship. They are tight and they speak frequently. All right. But Trump has to know if you put the Santis there, he's going to do the things that we want DOJ to Do that. Trump has been hesitant about having DOJ do since he's been running it now going on two terms.

[B]

And that's exactly what you need in the face of everything you're talking about, a public like is asking more and more of the day, what are we doing in Iran? What's going on? That's why I'm saying it.

[A]

All right, two minute warning. Keith, what's your prediction? Go.

[D]

I'm being serious when I say this. Chuck Schumer becomes Senate Majority leader in waiting. AOC decides she's not going to run against him in 28. Instead, she's going to announce that she's running for president and right out of the gate she's going to have 20% plus support among the Democrat base for 2028. And can I just make a quick sports one?

[A]

Sure.

[D]

My Nebraska football team is going to start off five zero and then they're going to finish six and six.

[A]

I've seen that movie that's like that Leonardo DiCaprio gif. Hey, I've seen that one.

[B]

That's not a prediction. That's that's just breathing.

[D]

Congrats to Michigan, by the way.

[A]

Thank you, brother. Appreciate it. Thank you. You guys had a great basketball season, too. My prediction, and I can't believe I'm going to predict this. I mean, I just would have, I'd love to go back and just tell Steve Dase a year ago that I would unironically make this prediction. But here we are. By the end of this year, Tucker Carlson is going to question the legitimacy of the Holocaust. By the end of this year, that'll happen. By the end of this year that's going to happen. I've seen this. This is another trend line, Keith, I've seen before. Okay, I've seen this. I've seen this trend line before, too. Right. And regardless of what you think about how much the tail's wagging the dog in the war and how much we should be aligned with Israel on these matters, on just a standalone, no one goes down the rabbit hole of the Jews and comes back a better, more rational human being for it never happens. Keith, good to see you, brother. Thank you.

[D]

Thank you, sir.

[A]

You bet. We'll come back. It'll be your turn on a feedback Friday when we do. Stay tuned. Hey, Aaron. I get so many headaches every month. It could be chronic migraine, 15 or more headache days a month, each lasting

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[B]

Yes.

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[B]

Indeed.

[A]

Yep. All right, let's start here. Michael Blackburn wants to know about the Pride sticker on my laptop. I've been listening for years. What's all that Pride Edition thing on your laptop for? That is from a year ago at this time when we were getting ready to release Richie Meets the Rainbow, and we did a special Pride Edition where I personally autographed. I think it was what, 2,000 copies? I want to say, personally autographed. It was a couple thousand, I think, and they were the special Pride editions. And I even signed the Pride edition stickers. All 2,000 of those stickers. I did them by hand, all myself. And I kept one of those stickers for myself and slapped it right there, that doohickey right there on the. On the laptop.

[B]

So we got to get you an auto pen.

[A]

Nice.

[D]

All right.

[A]

This is from Charlton Stanley. I love the show. The other day when you cat, when you crashed out over the Gays of Hormuz video in Aaron's montage, in case you guys have forgotten, this is when. Do you know the gentleman's name? Who did this, Aaron? I have no idea. Or the platform? Who did this?

[C]

No idea.

[A]

Somebody on the right went to some college town and grabbed the no Kings protest and I'm sorry. Thank you. The no Kings protest and grabbed one of the young ladies there and said, hey, don't you think we ought to include the gays of Hormuz? It's just incredible that we only are including the straights. And she. She bought it all. Full monty. All of it. Took it all. Okay. And I. It's, It's, It's. It's among the dumbest, most retarded things I've ever been subjected to in my life. And I just. I couldn't inhabit it. I couldn't. The. I couldn't. I had to just get up and walk out for a bit. I needed some air. Right? And we thought that's the second. That's only the second time that's happened in show history, the other being the 26 democratic convention when they decided they were going to quote now the Constitution and the Declaration to us and wave American flags for the first time since, you know, jfk, Right? But he says, actually, Charlton Stanley says this is actually the third time. You are forgetting several years ago on a day Scroop Friday, when Jill Savage was with you and you found out what happened to Phil Vischer, one of the VeggieTales creators, when you learned that we had lost the Veggie Tales guy to the spirit of the age, all right, you, you couldn't handle it and walked off and had and literally went stigmata off air. All right, so this would actually mean the gaze of Hormuz would really mean this is your third crash out triggering in the history of the program. And after Charlton said this, I remembered that I'd completely forgotten about that. That that did happen.

[B]

Actually I forgot completely about you walking out. But I will never forget your tone of voice that a certain like, it wasn't like angry grown up Steve Dase. It was just like a child, like

[A]

12 year old, a loss of innocence.

[B]

You just. Yeah, you just said we, we lost the veggie tails guy.

[A]

It's the equivalent of you've had an O.J. simpson poster on your wall as a kid and then you just tune in one night on a Friday night and you see him in a white Bronco running from the cops because he slashed his wife's throat. Right? Like, how did this happen? I mean that's, I mean the amount of memories and stuff I have with my kids and veggie tails,

[B]

you know, we. Right. Ryan Long, he like needs to get a hold, like do a spoof of Veggie Tails and post, post Spirit of the Age Phil Vischer. I mean, Ryan, talk to me. I mean, you can have it. I mean.

[A]

No, because what Ryan Long will have Phil Disher doing with those vegetables is unholy.

[C]

Speaking of, speaking of, did you see what went down in Atlanta last week?

[A]

No.

[C]

There was a drag club that did a Veggie Tales themed cabaret show.

[A]

As one does, just, just vile and disgusting.

[C]

That's on purpose.

[A]

Yes. But thank you, Charlton, for reminding me of. Yes. The third time that I was just so instantly devastated, triggered and impacted. I had to just get up and, and clear the air and walk around for a bit. Losing the Veggie Tales guy to the spirit of the age, that, that did wound me deeply. Let's go here to Mr. Ed. Mr. Ed writes, I am a late blooming Christian in my 50s. My wife and I did not start attending church until we were in our 40s. In doing so, we now accept Jesus as Lord and Savior and it's certainly changed our lives for the better. Unfortunately, we were unable to have children, so I decided to start mentoring through a lunch program at my church at a local school. I'm in my fourth year of mentoring and I've run into a bit of a situation. I am Searching for a little advice regarding my kiddo this year. He's a second grader and his parents make him wear. So this is the kid he's mentoring. Okay. In the lunch program. He's a second grader and his parents make him wear a Hail Satan hoodie to school every single day. And this has been going on for a couple of months now. Let me just stop with that for a second. What would every previous generation do to parents that sent their kids to school with a Hail Satan sweatshirt? What would happen to those parents, do you think?

[B]

This is why I'll consider sending troops into Nigeria, Steve,

[A]

in other words, if there's Christians there serious enough to be savagely persecuted for their faith, they're worthy of defending. Is that kind of your position then?

[B]

Oh, well, you talked about America will just become evil. John Daniel Davidson. Well, sticking with me as much as that is Pastor Kerry Gordon, just earlier this week and talking about on the track we're on. Yeah. That's going to be a more serious Christian nation than America is by far.

[A]

So let me Repeat this again. Mr. Ed says he's a second grader and his parents make him wear a Hail Satan hoodie to school every day for the last couple of months. He and I have discussed briefly how I feel about it as a Christian, at least as far as I am allowed. Let me stop there. Who told you you can only go as far as you were allowed? One day every knee will bow and every tongue will confess that the local school board is Lord. Is that how it goes?

[B]

It is not.

[A]

It is not. One day every knee will bow and every tongue will confess that the school principal is Lord. That how it goes.

[B]

It is not.

[A]

Okay. Pardon me. One day every knee will bow and every tongue will confess that the the Freedom from Religion foundation is Lord. Doesn't go like that either.

[B]

Nope.

[A]

Now, I understand the concerns that you crossing certain lines may blow up the entire program. And where you've got a bit of a camel's nose in under the tent right now. Right. You're in there somehow. Right. Doing some good for sure. Right. Being showing the kids more. These kids more light than they are typically going to get in many situations. That's all true. Right? Right. That's why you're doing it. Okay. You're certainly not getting rich off of doing it, Mr. Ed. So you're doing it for those reasons, that those are the right reasons. So I understand the idea that, hey, if I blow my cover here and go and go beyond the agreed upon parameters, I could put the Entire program at risk. Right. I think I get that. Right. And there are moments to make that a consideration. I mean, Jesus himself says at times he performs miracles and said, my hour has not yet come. Keep this between us. Right. So for everything there is a time and a season. Might I submit though that if you've got a second grader wearing, first of all he's wearing his religion, his parents religion every single day, Hail Satan. Might I suggest such an hour might be now, or to quote Tucker Carlson's favorite book of the Bible for such a time as this. If this isn't worthy of crossing some agreed upon lines, then what would be? This is deep, deep spiritual abuse of this child that is taking place. I mean deep, deep seated spiritual abuse. The only kind of spiritual, spiritual abuse I could imagine that is worse than this is if his parents were abusing him physically or sexually in the name of Jesus and telling him that Jesus wanted him to do it. That's about the only thing I could think of that would be a worse form of spiritual abuse for a child to suffer through than something like this. So if we all need to know, everyone within the sound of my voice. And everybody that works with me and for me knows I have those lines, which is why they'll never ask me to cross them because they know my answer will be no. That should be the understanding for all of you too that there are just certain things that people will not dare ask you to do, look the other way upon cross the line for because they understand where you stand and just know what that means by even asking. And if sending your child to school every day for months with a Hail Satan hoodie, if that's not a form of abuse worthy of violating, you know, clause 9 of Handbook B, codicil 3. 5 Todd, would you like to tell me what that might be then? What might that be? Well, but we all need to know, you, you, all of you within the sound of my voice that call yourself a believer, you need to know what is the point where I obey God and not man? And you should be, you should be equipped for that. And that whatever consequences that come my way, I will not fear because I truly fear the one who cannot just destroy the body or take a mentoring program away or take a job away or say mean things about me on social media, but could also cast my eternal soul into hell in the process. Right, we're coming out of the period of time where we commemorate that Jesus gave it all, all to him I owe sin had left a crimson stain. He washed it White as snow. How did he do that? How did he manage to accomplish that for you? In the absolute, most debased, demoralizing and painful way possible, he allowed. God allowed himself to be humiliated for you, Violated for you. He carried a giant cr. Beam of a cross after he had been beaten beyond recognition to the point that layers of the skin that are not supposed to be exposed to the light were, as in broad daylight, in the heat of the sun, wearing a crown of thorns. That's not one of these little tiny things you see in the movies, but essentially as big as a football helmet pierced through his skull. And he carried that for you. On all that exposed skin, he took that unsanded wood, all those splinters, all of the shards of that wood upon all of that exposed skin and nerve, he carried that wooden beam for you, making the pain even more excruciating, which is where we get the term crucifixion from, by the way. We get the term excruciating from the term crucifixion. That's where it comes from. And that unsanded coarse wood, those slivers, those shards of wood breaking off into his exposed and infected skin as he carries this beam of the cross to his known death. Might I suggest, therefore, in exchange for the favor granted to you and I by such humiliating acts the God of the universe was willing to perform on our behalf that he is entitled to at times say, I'm going to need you guys to kind of give me a little something back here every now and then. And something that might cost you a little something. If a child being forced by his parents to wear a Hail Satan sweatshirt into school every day in the second grade. He's six years old. If that is not one of those moments, it certainly is. At least a moment you should ponder whether we're east, we're close to it. Fair. Yeah. And that goes for all of you. Well, they told me I'd lose my teaching job if I didn't teach these kids that they're descended from monkeys and there's no God. Well, maybe look for another job. I'm sure God won't. There's other jobs God can give to you. Well, they told me I'd lose my nursing license if I didn't inject a known poison into these patients. Well, I'm sure you can negotiate that with Jesus later on. He'll be. He'll. He'll get it. He'll be like, you know what? You're right. On second thought, I could have just carried that cross you know, like just a couple of steps and just walked the rest of the way on my own. Got a nice tan. I don't know why I didn't think about that. You're right. There's always shortcuts. Is that how this works? No, no, it's not how this works. You need to know what is the moment that I will obey God and not man and all of us do. What is that moment? What is it? Let me continue this note. He has been very respectful of our time together. He takes it off or covers it up for our time together at lunch and I truly appreciate that and I've let him know that I discussed the issue with this counselor, but she says there's nothing the school can really do. What if he wore a shirt every day that said Jesus is Lord every single day, do you think the school would still say there's nothing it can do? Oh, we've had and one lesbian parent with her with, with the, the kid that she created with a turkey baster and her lesbian so called wife and their 37 cats in the trailer out back and, and she called the Freedom of Religion foundation from your old haunt there and some strip mall in Milwaukee, Wisconsin and they filed a lawsuit with the school. Do you think turn. Still turn around and say, well guys, there's really nothing we can do about the whole Jesus is Lord shirt isn't even imaginary.

[B]

This has happened. T shirts saying men can't become women and yeah, they make them turn it inside out.

[A]

Yeah. Why would you. So why are you playing by their rules? Why are you self limiting and you know they're not going to. Why would you do that? There's only one answer. You fear them more than God. That's the, that's the answer that we all have. That's all the answers we all have. When we don't do what we know is right. We fear men more than God. I in the school believe his parents are using him as a pawn to try to get the school to react and say or do something about it. That really bothers me because this kiddo is not truly aware of what's happening. Of course he's not. He's in second grade and he needs a hero. He needs someone to fight for him in ways he couldn't possibly understand. He's 6, doesn't even know what the word pawn means. He has asked me about Jesus because of the cross necklace I usually wear. And we've had brief discussions discussing why I love Jesus. He says he does too, which gives me some Hope about his situation. But beyond just briefly talking about Jesus, if he happens to bring it up, I'm not sure how I can influence the situation or even if it's appropriate for me to do so given the school situation. I pray for this kid in his home environment every day, but I feel a bit helpless and sad about his situation. If you have any thoughts or advice, I truly appreciate hearing it. Oh, I've got some. You're probably not going to like any of it. And I say this, Mr. Ed, because I love you. But this doesn't just apply to you. This applies to a lot of folks inhabiting this audience and walking this land mass called America. So I prayed. I just want to make sure I sum everything up here. This kid is getting spiritually abused in the home. I just so happen to be in this mentoring program as a believer, as a spirit filled believer. I don't have any kids of my own. I don't. I don't have any kids of my own. And I just so happen to be in the path of this young boy being spiritually abused by his parents, turning him into a satanic pawn, either as a troll joke or a grift or scam. And then I prayed and I asked, you know, God, what should be done here? And God's like, let me tell you what God says. I'll just tell you. That's why you're there. Somebody else prayed for that boy. So God sent you, Ed. It's like the cops showing up, man. The robbers got his gun to the head of the teller. I showed up. I'm armed, I'm well trained, I'm a licensed marksman, and I'm the only thing standing between that teller and the gun going off. Let me just stop and pray and ask God. God send somebody to do something about this. He did. He sent you. Sent you. That's why you're there. God is totally aware of this situation. He was aware of this situation before you showed up. That's why you're there, Ed. You're there. You're the solution, Ed. That's why you're there. The one thing Barack Obama said, that's ironclad truth, just not the way that he meant it is. We are the people we've been waiting for. The Lord is not unaware of all of the problems here. None of these things are surprises to him at all. That's why we're there. We're there for that reason. That's why we're there. Look at my own situation. I could keep silent on the Tucker Carlson stuff and a lot of stuff. I have the most offensive position of them all. Don't be an anti Semite and Jews need Jesus or they're going to hell like everybody else. That's the most offensive position of all of them, is it not?

[B]

It covers all your.

[A]

Because it basically offends literally every side of the entire debate. Okay? That's why I'm here. I'm here. I'm here to risk things like another zero on the checkbook and other things for these kinds of situations, right? For here to not just sit here and play it safe and go full Benny Johnson, look at what will click and produce that content to match what engagement is on has been, you know, thumbed on the scale today. I'm here to not do those things. That's why God plucked me out of a mail room, pluck me out of the womb of a 15 year old girl, pluck me out of wonders hall at Michigan State University where I majored in 9 020, fornication, pornography and intramural basketball instead of education. That's why I'm here. I'm here to do that. That's why I do it. Even though it risk relationships all the time, my friend. You guys have been here, you've been here for 10 years. You guys have seen friends completely just radically change, then abandon me later than people who hated me before. Now they want to be my friend. It's always just like one, take one, one answer away every single time. How many times have you guys watched this play out? For the last decade you've been by my side.

[B]

Couple.

[A]

Couple. That's why I'm here, though. I'm here. And because if, and if I won't do it, God will just grab somebody from the local laundromat and put them here and he'll have them do it. Then again, to quote Tucker Carlson's favorite book of the Bible, Esther, okay, listen. If you will not do what God has called you to do, salvation will come to the Jews by another means. But it is you, Esther, that I fear for. How do you know that? How do you not know that you were not placed here for such a time as this, Ed. That's why you're there. Ed. There's the old story of the guy who's drowning out in the open sea and he can't swim. And he looks around, he's praying to Jesus, Lord save me, Lord save me, I'm drowning. And as he's praying, like this orange pile cone comes by floating on the water just Lets it go by as he's praying. Then he sees, like, off in the distance like this. This luxury liner. But of course, depth perception in the open water is very distorted, right? So he can't really tell how far away that it is, but he's sure that that has to be is the method of his deliverance. So, Lord, save me, Lord, save me, Lord, save me again. Floating on top of the water that he can't float on comes this, like, real thick piece of driftwood. And it's totally soaked, which means, like, all the slivers and stuff are totally flattened. So, like, he could, like, use it as almost like a surfboard if he wanted to. Right? Just kind of, like put his chest on it and just kind of ride it. See what I'm saying? But no, that can't be it. He keeps praying and praying and praying. Then he drowns. When he gets to heaven, he's like, lord, I prayed for you to save me. And the Lord's like, didn't you see the orange pile cone and the piece of driftwood I sent you? It, like, went right, like, right by. It's like, right there because it's like while your eyes were closed, it just went right by. You had at least brushed up against you had to feel it somehow. Didn't notice it. How much more obvious could I made it? It was orange. The sea is blue, the cones, orange. Kind of hard to miss that. Bright orange in a blue sea. Good to see that. How often do you just get driftwood in the open water? All kinds of trees planted in the ocean. Right. Right there in the ocean. We cut down trees in the ocean all the time. Right. So why would you think there was a piece of driftwood in the water and it's just floating there? Everyone within the sound of my voice is the solution to one of the problems in this country. Every single one of you are. And we always have been, Ed. That's why you're there. It's entirely possible. The whole point of your salvation and when it happened, like when the disciples come to Christ and they say, who sinned? So that this man was born blind? And Jesus said, nobody. This man was born blind so that at this precise moment, you would watch me perform this miracle and see my. And confirm your testimony in the faith you place in me. It's entirely possible that you were converted and saved, Ed, after years of not having children, giving up on that just so you'd be here for this little boy. And your primary purpose on earth is this little boy. Very possible, Ed. Everyone within the sound of my voice is a solution to something wrong with the country. All of us are. But here's the thing. None of them are going to come without some risk. None of them will. None of them will. None of them. You don't have any kids, Ed, that will be embarrassed if you get taken on and called names in school. You and your wife are older, more mature. Now, I'm guessing this isn't the most lucrative gig. Lunch mentor at a public school. Probably not getting rich off of that. Probably right.

[B]

I just got the impression he was volunteering.

[A]

That's what it would sound like to me too. Yeah. Aaron, what's that meme you often talk about? Where we go to the Lord and say, lord, help us with our enemies. And what's he say back? Do you remember what that is?

[C]

Well, yeah, it's a different version of the meme. And it's somebody who's, I think, coming along on, on a, on a boat and they see somebody drive, drowning, and the person is saying, help, help, I'm drowning. And as they pass by, they just give him a high five and then keep going.

[A]

Oh, yeah, no, but I'm thinking of the one where Lord's like, you guys know like your, your opponents are. Oh yeah, they're double digit IQ losers.

[C]

Yeah, they're infertile.

[A]

Yeah, yeah, you can't be infertile. You can't. Guys. You guys can't beat those. I don't know, Ed. I think the Lord's pretty resoundingly answered the prayer, brother. With Ed. That's what it kind of sounds like to me. It kind of sounds like, ed, you're the answer to prayer. That's why you're there, man. And for most of you at your job when this crap goes on, that's why you're there. You're really not there to just mark time forever. Living paycheck to paycheck and punching a clock and being a spoke in a wheel, that's part of it. The Lord uses that to put food on your table. Right. Pay your bills. That's part of it. Right, Right. But that's not ultimately why you are there. That's ultimately not why you're anywhere. It's just to perform rote functions is to fulfill divine purposes. And the purpose of human life is to glorify God. So, Ed, you came here asking, hey, what, What? You know, do you have any advice? I've got the best advice, the most direct advice. The Lord has answered your prayer, Ed never met, you probably will never meet You. And I'm not a prophet with some specific download from God just based on everything you're telling me, my friend. Prayer has been answered, Ed. With you. You're the. You're the answer to the prayer ad. That's why you're there for such a time as this. Just try not to massacre all the Persians while you're there. Leave the poor Persian people alone. I did not mean to get off on that tangent there, Ed. Sorry about.

[B]

First time. I do have one piece of advice, Ed. Buy the kid another sweatshirt.

[A]

That's. Start with that. Where's your favorite team? Which favorite movie? Favorite show? Yeah, okay. Start with that. I got it. I got a new hoodie for you. Yeah, that's a good place to start. Thank you. Todd might even approve a Star wars sweatshirt in this case. Yeah, yeah. We'll come back. More feedback in a moment. The steve day show. All right, Back here on the Steve Day show, and we're brought to you by Patriot Mobile. And what we love about Patriot Mobile is they're a great service and then they share the values that made America great. Always start with, hey, one of their values is that we believe in is excellence. You don't get to put a substandard product out there or a substandard movie out there or substandard content out there. Because you're a Christian or you're a conservative. No, because you're doing those things. Be excellent. Think Todd or you think Todd? You think Paul made shoddy tents for people? You think when he was working carpentry, Jesus, like, you know, I know what will set up this whole messianic ministry.

[B]

Did you just confuse me with St. Paul? Thank you.

[A]

I thought you'd more want to be confused with St. Peter, but thank you. I'm sure. Jesus, while preparing for. You know, this is the last table I'm going to make before I go out in the wilderness. Nothing will testify to my messiahship more than if I just have it missing a leg or a wobbly leg and someone's mother sits in it and, you know, breaks her. Breaks her foot or breaks her leg falling down. That'll really set me up. My. Of course not be excellent. And I can tell you, I've been with Patriot Mobile now for six years. They are excellent. Right? So maybe you're with somebody who's not so excellent. Well, they've got corporate or contract buyout programs to get you out of that corporate deal. You don't want. Keep your number, switch your number, keep your phone, upgrade your phone, whatever you want. To do. They'll make it as customizable to you as they can. When you go to patriotmobile.com Steve if you use the Code Steve, you get started with a free month of service as well. All right. Patreon mobile.com Steve Code Steve for the free month of service@patreon mobile.com Steve Pardon me. And don't forget, new show debuting here called Stu and Dave Do America. Stu and Dave Landau coming together to do this show, seeing the world through two different lenses. Stu is definitely more analytical. Dave is not. He's more comedic. Right. So two different perspectives, having a real conversation of what's going on in the world. All right. You're going to find it worth your time. Check it out. Stu and Dave Do America. Get your Blaze TV subscription with the code DACE. You'll get 20 off your annual subscription at BlazeTV.com DACE code DACE all right, are we ready for some more feedback Friday?

[B]

We are.

[A]

All right, let's go here to MJ Pop in Greensboro, Georgia. How far are you from Augusta, by the way? I've always wanted to do the Masters. I don't have, like, the super bowl, like, on a must list because that just kind of seems to me like it's so crowded in so much pomp and circumstance that if the Lions ever got there, it almost feels like it would take away, you know, sitting in the 97th, you know, row of the upper deck. You see what I'm trying to say? Okay. But the Masters is absolutely on my gotta do once in my life list. It absolutely is.

[B]

Oh, yeah. I mean, the way they. And they, they don't gouge you. I mean.

[A]

Right. Ham and cheese sandwiches are 250. Can't bring your cell phone, though. Yeah. All right, so. But I've always wanted to do Augusta National. Always have. Anyway, MJ writes no idea how close Greensboro is from Augusta, but it's closer than Des Moines. I know that I was a person who admired Tucker and felt he spoke for many conservatives. After he was fired from Fox, I paid to join his program. After about a year or so, I found he seemed to be inviting guests on that had little in common with that I had little in common with or certainly didn't advance the ball of conservatism right down the field. With each passing week, he seems to be more agitated and drawn to guests who seem close to demonic in their beliefs. So I stopped watching and eventually dropped my membership. I wondered what was going on. Even his facial expression seemed, for want of a better phrase, slightly Crazed. His speech at times at Charlie Kirk. Charlie Kirk's memorial was a concern. At one point, sticking his tongue out about Susie Wiles, who spoke before him. I don't know her, but it seemed inappropriate. And then I heard him talk to Megyn Kelly about the night he was attacked by demons. Even the dogs in the room with him were terrified. Tucker thinks he won that battle, but I'm thinking maybe it didn't. Everything he is saying and doing, such a reversal of his positions, his anger, his need to strike out at all those who he once believed in. The strange facial expressions. His interview with James actually was Joe Rogan who did the interview with Talarico, not Tucker. But I hope I'm wrong. Maybe it's too simple. At least I don't think Tucker interviewed Talarico. Did he, Tucker did Nick Fuentes, and Rogan did Alarico. I mean. I mean, Talarico doesn't become Democratic nominee for senator without Joe Rogan. That interview put Talarico on the map. Okay. I think most Christians today can sense we are in a cosmic battle of good versus evil. But something seems very wrong with Tucker. And I believe whatever happened to him in his evil confrontation has oppressed him. What do you think that's from mj? Well, let me say this. There are. There are few people in this industry that I have. There's. There's a ton I have respect for. There's. There's only a few. And not because there's not more worthy of it. It's just, to me, were to use the term like admire, that's got to be a pretty high standard, right? Okay. There's only a few that I would say that at times I truly admired Rush. Of course, as we all would say, Tucker a few years ago would have been on that list for sure. And. Let me put it this way. You guys saw that polling from a couple weeks ago. Pew did that polling. White evangelicals are like, the only branch of Christianity left that has, like, a majority viewpoint against abortion. Gay marriage. Black evangelicals, Hispanic evangelicals, Catholics are all either, like, right at the Mendoza Line, are a little underwater. Okay. And a lot of that is the work that was done by the old religious right and Francis Schaefer and that crowd in the 80s that led to the Reagan revolution. And those folks are now the ones that largely voted Trump into office. Right. So you can make the case that that voting block, and it's the most attacked voting block of my lifetime, they've been called the religious right. Okay. America's Taliban, Christian nationalists, Over the years, you can make a case that that voting block is why we're not totally succumb to the spirit of the age like Western Europe right now. It's the last line of defense against the spirit of the age. If you were the devil and you wanted to create the vessel by which you would completely and totally divide, deconstruct and dismantle that voting block, what would you do any differently than what Tucker has done in the last year? And I'll wait, Aaron, I'm going to ask you. What would you do any differently than what Tucker's done in the last year?

[C]

Supposed to drop this phrase now. It's worse than that. Is any human being capable with their own faculties of doing this, what you're describing as perfectly as it's been done, if indeed that's happening?

[A]

No, I mean, we're going to revisit Hitler. We're going to revisit the last war that we actually fought, that we thought was a worthy cause for a unified West. World War II. We're going to, we're going to deconstruct. We're going to reconstruct Hitler or reconsider him, at least. We're going to deconstruct World War II. We're going to say post World War II Christianity. Protestant Christianity is a scam. Post world, let me just tell you flat out, the closest thing American Christianity has had to a Pope, Protestant Christianity has had to a pope since the Whitfield Jonathan Edwards era of the colonial America is Billy Graham. You're essentially saying when you say post war, Billy Graham is the formidable presence of post World War II Christianity. So now we're going to, we're going to deconstruct Billy Graham. Christianity is really aligned with socialism. Christianity is non authoritarian. I thought Christ was king. He's just going to have like loosely associated people that just kind of doing whatever they want. That's how a kingdom works. No, no, that's not how it works actually at all. Just tell me. I mean, what would. And then. And hey, Tucker has told us some truths about things. He told us more about the, the math club shooter against Donald Trump than our own FBI did. But so does the enemy. He'll listen. If all the enemy did was lie to you all the time, you'd never believe him. When the enemy comes to you and says, hey man, you and your wife haven't been together in quite a while and you can tell the way that that cute assistant is looking at you, ask her to lunch. And when he tells you that she'll set those nerve endings in your body on fire. Is he telling you the truth when he tells you that?

[B]

Sure.

[A]

Sure he is. If that wasn't true, you wouldn't be tempted, right?

[B]

Right.

[A]

Right. So it's the truth, right? Is it the whole truth?

[B]

Not even close.

[A]

Does he then tell you, oh, by the way, after those. After. After those nerve endings calm back down, Your kids will probably resent you and hate God and you for what you did to their family. Your wife will leave you, take half of what you own. You may. You'll probably lose your job here at this company because you violated the camaraderie protocols and had sex with a co worker. You see what I'm saying?

[B]

I do.

[A]

So. So he doesn't. He doesn't tell you the whole truth because if he told you all of that, you'd be like, you know what? I'll find another way to get those nerve endings satisfied. If it's going to cost me that much, you'd walk away. Right. So what he tells you is true. To a point. Tucker's told a lot of things, a lot of truths in the last year, to a point, while deconstructing the most important truths of them all. So I ask again. The only show on Fox News that would put me on is Tucker. I used my relationship with Bob Vander Plaats to get Tucker his first booking after he got fired from Fox News. That never happens without me. Never. He hosted that leadership summit because I wanted it. And Bob wanted it, too, but the rest of his team did not. I lobbied for that. I owe a debt to Tucker. He made our book number one the second time it went number. But I'm just asking a question. That's what we get to do these days, right? Just ask questions?

[B]

Yes.

[A]

Let's just ask one. If you were the devil and you were specifically trying to wither away and erode the white evangelical voter, who is the last critical mass voter that can be counted on to a majority of the time, oppose your deepest schemes. What would you do any differently than what Tucker Carlson has done in the last year? What would you do any differently? Link? Just asking questions.

[B]

You know, if I may, that one of the reasons he's so dangerous right now is because, you know, it's that first. That appearance you're talking about here in Des Moines is when he really started opening up about getting into the Bible and things like that. And right now, you know, he's, in his own way, even set Esther aside for a second, he's bringing it up more and more specifically making that the context of his argumentation. But here's why it's so dangerous. You know, when in First Peter, when it says, you know, always be ready to give an answer for the hope that is in you. He has all kinds of answers, rightly or wrongly. Right now, what he's totally missing is the hope. It's a totally hopeless presentation.

[A]

That's how you know, it's not of the light.

[B]

It's utterly. He's so. He's such a desperate man right now. And it's not a guess. It's just obviously so that even when you have scripture in your hands, if there's no hope there, it's forfeit.

[A]

Lucas writes. I'm interested in the Pope's response to the Iranian conflict, especially Todd's commentary on the old guard versus the rising generation of priests in the Catholic Church. So I have a question for you guys, particularly Todd. How long before Vatican 3? Knowing many young men within the church, including clergy, I think that my generation understands the spirit of the age and will take a more active stance in opposing it. I also think we will return to a more traditional liturgy and expect this change to happen in my lifetime. I'm 28 years old. I'm currently applying for seminary in my home diocese. And please keep me in your prayers and I'll keep you in mind. Again, that's from Lucas. You have thoughts for Lucas?

[B]

I would say, a long time before Vatican 3. I mean, you're that new guard. It just begs the question, how. How long before that guard is in a position to be the ones dictating

[A]

terms and just give, like, in one minute for our Protestant listeners what a Vatican III would. Would do. What would that do?

[B]

Well, it's the same kind of thing as the Council of Trent, the Council of Nicaea. It brings together the entire headship of the church. But the issue of whatever they were talking about in the 4th century is different. I mean, a lot of Vatican 2 had to do with this truly becoming. It's always been a world church, but the world getting smaller. It's a world church in terms of they had encyclicals, communication and dealing with radio and television and all of those things. So how we learn to communicate anew in this world, along with which, obviously, the vernacular came in, which was one of the most controversial parts about it. But by and large, it is bringing everybody together in one room, just like Constantine did back in Nicaea and negotiating the issues of the day. So I don't think that's Coming. When you say how long. If, if it happens, it's going to be a bit. Unless something monumental takes place that I can't foresee.

[A]

Okay, let's close with this from. Randy says, if this Israel is truly the Jewish homeland or the prophetic Jewish homeland, why are they then not allowed to have their own temple on the Mount? So the danger you have is if you're going to make that case and the day comes that they do, are you then going to apologize to all the Third Temple dispensationalists who said this was going to happen? You see what I'm saying? That's the danger of trying to interpret scripture from what's happening in the world at the moment as opposed to letting scripture dictate to you how you should see the world at the time. Right? So, like right now, this is a good argument. This is a good point he's making right now. Hey, how can this be the prophetic Israel? They can't have their own temple and resume the sacrifices and truly practice the fullness of their religion. That's a good, that's a good point right now. Right? But what if that changes like next week, ten years from now? Is it still a good point? See what I'm saying? I mean, at that point, then. So right now it looks like the dispensationalists were wrong. So if they get the Third Temple or the dispensationalists. Right. See, this is the danger, okay, when you, when you try to use the things of this world and the moments in time to, to rightly interpret what's happening prophetically or not, as opposed to letting the prophetic word tell you and dictate to you what's going to happen in the world. That's the difference between exegesis and Isa Jesus. And that's why I wanted to address this one really quick before we get out of here. Any final thoughts, gentlemen? Got about a minute.

[B]

Buy that kid a new sweatshirt.

[A]

There's got to be a conduit for clothing. Sweatshirt for that kid Aaron, that Mr. Ed can buy, right?

[C]

Yeah. I mean, there's gotta be something out there that's. That's worthwhile that can be bought for that poor kid. You know, that story is, I think, instructive, which I'm glad we spent, which is why I'm glad we spent an entire half hour on that. There are some times, I've said this a couple of times as well, where there are genuinely complicated situations, whether it's with your family, whether it's with things that the answer. There's not really a clear answer. And so I've said, hey, pray, and ask God to show you how to pray about this. There are other times where, hey, we've got a flesh and blood real issue that's going on here. Those are times where you start thinking, what can I do, do, do, do first. And I think as a general rule, actually probably as a hard and fast rule, err towards the side of doing rather than just praying.

[B]

The amazing thing about this, you're being asked to mentor this specific kid because he obviously needs it. The secular people are asking you, we need help. You walk in that room, say, hey, I got it. He's wearing a Satan T shirt. Open your eyes.

[A]

Oh, everybody, have a great weekend. Go hard. Romans 8, 28, Sa.