ENOUGH: Pope Leo's Game Needs to Be EXPOSED | 5/4/26

Summary

Steve Deace Show: “ENOUGH: Pope Leo's Game Needs to Be EXPOSED”

May 4, 2026 | Blaze Podcast Network

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Main Theme & Overview

This episode is a classic “Steve Deace Show” blend: Deace and co-hosts Aaron McIntyre and Todd Erzin examine news and politics through a fiercely critical, overtly conservative, and sometimes snarky lens. The focal points include the latest developments in U.S. foreign policy (Operation “Project Freedom” in the Strait of Hormuz), a searing critique of recent Catholic Church appointments (notably Pope Leo’s selection of Bishop Avilio for West Virginia), debates on illegal immigration, midterm electoral strategy, the shifting character of both parties, and extended deconstructions of conservative media figures—especially Tucker Carlson. There's also a special segment with Senator Ron Johnson, unpacking “bombshell” new revelations about the federal government’s alleged mishandling and cover-up of COVID-19 vaccine safety signals.

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Key Discussion Points & Insights

1. Foreign Policy & Project Freedom

• [00:01–01:12] Deace shares updates on “Project Freedom,” a Trump administration initiative providing U.S. naval escorts to non-Iranian civilian vessels in the Strait of Hormuz.
• Treasury Secretary Scott Besant presses China to pressure Iran, with Senator Ron Johnson echoing the call for Chinese diplomatic intervention.

2. Papal Appointment Controversy

• [01:12–02:14, 14:00–22:00]
  • Pope Leo’s appointment of Bishop Avilio Minerva Ayala (a former undocumented immigrant from El Salvador) as Bishop of West Virginia catches Deace’s eye.
  • Deace calls out what he sees as “shoehorning your open borders agenda into your church,” accusing the Pope of politicized virtue signaling versus prophetic leadership:
    • “This is Isa, Jesus: I have an agenda, and I will shoehorn it into my office. That's what it is.” (Steve Deace, 21:08)
  • Deace distinguishes Avilio’s case from today’s “mass illegal immigration,” noting Ayala’s English acquisition, TPS/asylum-seeking path, and eventual naturalization but arguing the U.S. can “no longer afford to look the other way” given demographic and economic changes.
  • He frames the bishopric as punishment for West Virginia’s overwhelming Republican voting patterns.

3. The Filibuster & Election Security

• [05:10–12:50] Discussion shifts to Democrat Eric Holder’s public suggestion that Democrats would remove the filibuster if they regained full federal control.
  • Deace warns that GOP failure to pass the SAVE Act and secure elections now would leave Republicans vulnerable if the filibuster is later removed.
  • “If we can't get Republicans to do that to secure our elections, then I'm not sure...the Republican Party will nationally recover if the Democrats then win and then turn around and get rid of the filibuster themselves.” (Steve Deace, 11:01)

4. Demographic & Economic Shifts Since 1990

• [18:06–21:41]
  • Deace paints a picture of America’s shifting identity:
    • National debt up over 1,000%
    • Illegal immigration up 300%
    • Working-class job displacement
    • Home-buying age up from 28–30 to 41
    • Declining rates of marriage and family formation
  • Frames current era as incapable of offering the “exceptions” of the past.

5. Catholic-Protestant Social Media Feuds & Relevance

• [28:21–29:25]
  • The panel jokes about low-IQ discourse online, noting the “look at your Pope” retort is used to shut down arguments, reflecting new internal division and weakened credibility for institutional Catholicism.

6. Iowa Midterms: GOP Strategy & Base Fatigue

• [31:31–44:30] with guest (Vander Plaats, presumed)
  • Iowa governor’s race and congressional contests discussed as examples of national dynamics:
    • GOP has huge voter registration advantage but risks lethargy and division.
    • Concerns about front-runners “playing it safe,” skipping debates/forums, and failing to energize grassroots.
  • Democrats uniting around “anti-Trump” sentiment while GOP struggles to give voters an affirmative, energizing alternative.

7. “Deconstructing Tucker”: The Tucker Carlson Segment

• [52:27–77:43]
  • One of the show’s unique recurring segments, Deace & panel use recent NYT interview clips to claim Tucker Carlson is undergoing an “open, rapid deconstruction” of his former world view.
  • Key points:
    • Carlson, when pressed, gaslights about his previously expressed views on Israel and Trump (“Did I say he’s the Antichrist? Well, I don’t know…”).
    • “This is literally ‘depends on what the definition of is, is.’” (Steve Deace, 66:36)
    • Carlson claims Trump has “spellbinding” supernatural abilities and projects cult-leader tendencies onto Trump—while allegedly displaying similar rhetorical demagoguery himself.
    • Panel claims Tucker is now a “malevolent presence… trying to sabotage both the current and future right-wing coalition.”

8. Explosive COVID Vaccine Safety Revelations: Senator Ron Johnson Interview

• [79:15–91:20]
  • Johnson outlines new findings from a Senate investigation:
    • Whistleblower and document analysis reveal senior FDA officials intentionally suppressed COVID vaccine safety signals.
    • Story of an 85-year-old data scientist ignored after bringing up flagged signals of deaths and serious injury during the vaccine rollout.
    • “The American public never had fully informed consent to that vaccine…this should be a bombshell revelation and a bombshell story.” (Sen. Ron Johnson, 83:41)
    • Johnson’s staff uncovered evidence of NIH treating vaccine-injured quietly while telling them to “stay silent” and withholding those findings from the public.
  • Legacy media/Big Pharma are accused of deliberate suppression.

9. Closing Reflections: Accountability & Consequences

• [91:29–94:16]
  • Hosts agree America has been “psychologically vaccinated”: “If you don’t punish the people that did it to you before, they’ll know they can do it again someday.” (Steve Deace, 94:14)
  • Praise for Johnson’s perseverance, focus on the importance of not letting the COVID era be memory-holed or its architects escape without consequence.

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Notable Quotes & Memorable Moments

• On Pope Leo & West Virginia:

  “This is the equivalent of letting MSNBC pick church officers…They can go to your neighborhoods, they can go to yours and thank you for your compassion. It's disgusting, it's shameful, and it's obvious. And that's the part I'm the most offended by.”
  (Steve Deace, 21:08)

• On Democrats & Filibuster:

  “If we can't get Republicans to do that to secure our elections, then I'm not sure...the Republican Party will nationally recover if the Democrats then win and then turn around and get rid of the filibuster themselves.”
  (Steve Deace, 11:01)

• On Evangelicals’ Role in Politics:

  “Go find a white evangelical who believes in prophetic Israel and shake their hand. Because if it wasn't for those voters, we'd already be done as a country. And that's a fact, Jack.”
  (Steve Deace, 58:49)

• On Tucker Carlson’s Gaslighting:

  “That is literally ‘depends on what the definition of is, is.’ ...Just gaslighting it right to your face.”
  (Steve Deace, 66:36)

• Senator Ron Johnson on COVID Vaccine Safety:

  “The American public, quite honestly, global public, never had fully informed consent to that vaccine.... This should be a bombshell revelation and a bombshell story.”
  (Sen. Ron Johnson, 83:41)

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Important Segment Timestamps

• Project Freedom & Iran/China diplomacy: 00:01–01:12
• Pope Leo’s WV Bishop Controversy: 01:12–02:14, 14:00–22:00
• Eric Holder, The Filibuster, & GOP Stakes: 02:29–12:50
• Demographic Shifts, Economic Change: 18:05–21:41
• Catholic-Protestant Online Fights: 28:21–29:25
• Iowa Midterms, Base Enthusiasm, GOP Strategy: 31:31–44:30
• Deconstructing Tucker Segment: 52:27–77:43
• Senator Ron Johnson Interview: 79:15–91:20
• Hosts’ Reflections on Accountability: 91:29–94:16

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Detailed Takeaways

• Deace and crew are animated, combative, oftentimes sarcastic, and deeply skeptical of both mainstream institutions and the right’s current leaders.
• The show is deeply invested in culture war narratives: immigration, church liberalization, “deep state,” election security, and legacy media corruption.
• There’s a continuous theme of betrayal—whether by church leaders, Republican officials, or conservative media figures now allegedly off the ideological reservation.
• Tangible concern over base enthusiasm, messaging, and the guts required to win (or even keep) power, especially in Midwest battlegrounds like Iowa.
• Sen. Johnson segment provides one of the clearest, most urgent distillations of ongoing anti-establishment COVID skepticism in conservative media.

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Final Thoughts

For listeners who missed the episode, this show delivers an unvarnished, often irreverent take on current events—while urging unwavering vigilance, both against progressive agendas and from figures ostensibly on “our side” who might be subverting the cause. The hosts are united in their calls for clarity, courage, and resistance to both political and institutional overreach, and see the coming election—as well as the fight over national identity and memory of the COVID era—as existential.

Transcript

[Steve Dace]

It's the Steve Day Show. Here's what happened while we were away, brought to you by Project Freedom. President Trump is announcing a new initiative in the Strait of Hormuz called Project Freedom. It basically entails US Naval escorts for civilian vessels of any nation other than Iran passing through the Strait. Trump is characterizing the initiative as a humanitarian operation, saying on Truth Social, quote, the ship movement is merely meant to free up people, companies and countries that have done absolutely nothing wrong. They are victims of circumstance. And Central Command this morning announced two U.S. flagged merchant vessels have successfully transited through the Strait of Hormuz and are safely on their journeys. Treasury Secretary Scott Besant, who seemingly has increasingly been front and center and the media, says it's time for China to step up and start pressuring Iran.

[Senator Ron Johnson]

Let's see if China, let's see them step up with some diplomacy and get the Iranians to open the street.

[Steve Day]

You've said that twice now. Do you expect Beijing and President Xi

[Political Commentator / Guest (possibly Todd Erzin)]

to do something with regard to Iran?

[Senator Ron Johnson]

Again, all I say is Iran is the largest state sponsor of terrorism and China has been buying 90% of their energy. So they are funding the largest state

[Steve Dace]

sponsor of terrorism back in our hemisphere. Pope Leo has appointed a man who entered the country as an illegal alien hidden in the trunk of a car as the new bishop of West Virginia. The pope approved the resignation of Bishop Mark E. Brennan of Wheeling Charleston, West Virginia, and selected Bishop Evilio Minerva Ayala, 55 years old, of Washington, to stake his place. His the new West Virginia bishop became an American citizen following his ordination in 2004 and previously served as an auxiliary bishop of Washington, D.C. on the topic of illegalities, President Trump delivered this line during his rally at the Villages in Florida late last week.

[Senator Ron Johnson]

Ilhan Omar, then she married a brother to come in.

[Steve Day]

I don't know. You know, you're not. But I think, I would imagine they're looking at her. I have nothing to do with it. I would imagine. Of course, I have nothing to do. I have nothing. But I believe she married her brother, which is totally illegal, although it's a lovely couple, actually. But it's a little, it's a little bit on the illegal side. Darling, I love you very much.

[Steve Dace]

As it stands today, it appears Elon Omar's side is set to gain ground in Washington come the midterms. And former Attorney General Eric Holder of the weekend once again said the quiet part out loud of what the Democrats plan to do the next time they have total control in D.C. you couldn't

[Steve Day]

get past the filibuster, largely because Senators Manchin and Sinema decided that they did not want to vote to reform the rules. And so the next time there is that ability by Democrats, if we had the presidency as well as the House and the Senate that use that power, you know, one of the things that just, just kind of gets me is that progressives and Democrats have a reluctance and uncomfortability with the acquisition and the use of. And Republicans don't have those problems, conservatives don't have those problems. And so the next time we have that power, we need to use it.

[Steve Dace]

In completely unrelated news, a new federal task force just released a bombshell 200 page report accusing the Biden administration of systematic anti Christian bias across 17 federal agencies. Among the most damning findings, Biden officials told the White House that employees religious objections to Covid vaccines were insincere. And the Civil Rights division published material suggesting Christians couldn't even be victims of religious discrimination. The Trump administration says it's reversing all of it. And already suing school districts it says are forcing things like gender ideology on students with sincere religious beliefs. Tucker Carlson was interviewed by the New York Times at interviewsman Making the rounds over the weekend, including this hard to watch clip.

[Tucker Carlson]

JD has been subject to this is well known, but I'll just confirm it. Non stop treachery from people on the neoconservative side. Who are these people around Marco Rubio and they have been totally against J.D. vance from the very beginning.

[Interviewer / Journalist]

Who do you mean specifically?

[Tucker Carlson]

You know, I don't know is the real answer. I don't know.

[Interviewer / Journalist]

You're accusing people of treachery. So I'm wondering.

[Tucker Carlson]

Well, I know there's been a lot of treachery for sure. And I know they've been. They were so mad about J.D. getting that job. I mean they.

[Interviewer / Journalist]

Who's they within the White House?

[Tucker Carlson]

I don't, you know, I don't know the answer to that.

[Steve Dace]

And finally, may the fourth be with you.

[Steve Day]

Yes, it's premiere night here for Attack of the Clones. But outside the Ziegfeld Theater is the real show, Return of the dorks. Thousands of 35 year old men waiting days, even months for just a taste of George Lucas. Table scraps here with. All right, you're dressed as a huge nerd. Yes. Yes. What? Seriously, you're supposed to be. I'm supposed to be a Jedi. You're a Jedi Knight.

[Senator Ron Johnson]

Yes.

[Steve Day]

And what are the principles of a Jedi Knight?

[Political Commentator / Guest (possibly Todd Erzin)]

Always.

[Steve Day]

To always defend truth and justice throughout the galaxy. And to eat a lot of Peanut

[Senator Ron Johnson]

M and M. Oh, boy.

[Steve Dace]

And that's what happened while we were away.

[Steve Day]

So we have Trump rebranding the Iran war to kind of restart the the clock there. In what world does Eric Holder live that Democrats are the ones showing restraint? Do you guys know what world this is?

[Aaron McIntyre]

I'm not familiar with it just goes

[Steve Day]

to show you that these two sides just can't long term and won't long term share a landmass together. And we're going to have a ton on next hour on the Tucker Carlson interview as we have another edition of Deconstructing Tucker Deconstructing. And I've got a few things I want to say about the the Pope's latest papal appointment here in the United States. I'm going to get into that and more here next on the Steve Day Show. And greetings. Happy Monday. Welcome to the Steve Day show here live and on demand on Blaze TV, radio and podcast with Todd Erzin and Aaron McIntyre. I'm Steve Dase. We're brought to you by Kexi. Fellas, the deadline's approaching. Memorial Day. I'm sorry, Mother's Day is this weekend. Don't blow it. Get your Mother's Day box from our friends over at Kexi. And if you want to get any of their great cookies right now because the Mother's Day box has limited shelf life in terms of quantity. So get them now while they're still available. And if you want to try any of their other great offerings, because you do, they're fantastic. Use the code DACE for 15% off at Kexi K E K S I K E K S I kexi.com that's kexi.com use the promo code DACE for 15 off on everything other than the Mother's Day box because that's a limited time offer. And these, these cookies are they taste homemade. You know why they are kexi.com k e k s I promo code dace for 15 off everything other than the Mother's Day box. All right. Let's get into it. Let me say this about the filibuster thing that Eric Holder brought up. If they don't pass the SAVE act and Democrats get control and then turn around and remove the filibuster, I, I'm not sure the Republican Party will recover from that. That is just such an, that is just such an obvious scam. And I go back to 2016 was the one time in his entire career Mitch McConnell fought for us against them. Normally, he fought us for them. But the one time he fought for us against them. And unlike Tucker Carlson, I can name my pronouns. The Democrats, the left. The one time he did that was in 2016 after Antonin Scalia died, because he recognized letting Barack Obama appoint the successor of who many thought was the, the greatest post World War II conservative justice of the 20th century. Allowing Barack Obama to make that appointment as a lame duck out the door would just blow up much of the reasoning. People still have to vote Republican on any level would hurt their own messaging. I mean, if you ask a lot of conservatives, well, why do you still vote Republican when they give you an issue other than because the Democrats are so bad, they'll almost never be something affirmatively about their gop. Have you noticed that? It'll almost never be something affirmatively about the gop.

[Aaron McIntyre]

Right.

[Steve Day]

It'll usually start with how bad. Crazy, retarded, insane, gay and, and demonic and Islamic. But I repeat myself. The Democratic Party is right. It'll start there. All right. And then after they get done with that, if they give you an issue, usually if they finally get to one, it'll be retention. It'll be judicial elections and judicial nominations. And if you go back and you look at the 2016 exit polling in, in that race, judicial nominations were the number two issue behind the economy and jobs. And Trump won those voters by about 25 points. And that's how he won the 2016 election. I mean, if, if we're going to have all this angst that we've had since 2020 where people almost go to prison for trying to name alternate electors and everything else that went on, and the Republican Party cannot then turn around and secure our elections when they have the votes to do so. They just need to remove a procedural aberration. It's only been in recent years that we had this non talking filibuster. Just put the old fashioned filibuster back in. Make Democrats stand up there day after day after day after day holding court on why they don't believe that only American citizens should vote in an American election and you have a no loss. I mean, I guess they could stay up there and shut the entire Senate down for the next five and a half months. Right. Between now and the next election over this issue. That's free commercials every day for our side. Right. They want to stand up there 24 hours a day for the next five and a half months and keep reminding everybody that we're shutting everything down because we want non citizens to vote in American elections. I'll take that.

[Aaron McIntyre]

W. Absolutely.

[Steve Day]

That's Just free. You want to talk about some earn media, that's the best we could possibly have. So it's either that or they can't do it. And then we pass the filibuster breaks and we pass the bill. That's it. If we can't get Republicans to do that to secure our elections, then I'm not sure. Barring an insane level of personality like what Trump represents, and I don't see anybody like that on the horizon at all. Because this was such an outlier. I mean, we had maybe the most famous man in the world run for president. That's not gonna happen all the time. All right, so certainly among the world's most beloved celebrities, Donald Trump was before he ran for president. Right, sure. So how many times we get. That's just not something that's just going to happen every cycle. Right. Every era, every generation.

[Aaron McIntyre]

It is not.

[Steve Day]

It is not. So we had this massive one time outlier here with a unique Persona to kind of get everybody coalesced just behind his Persona. Barring something like that moving forward, I don't know how the Republican Party honestly will nationally recover if the Democrats then win and then turn around and get rid of the filibuster themselves. Now, it's not a guarantee. They could be, they could be, we should say this, they could be bluffing. Right. They've threatened to get rid of the filibuster for the last decade or so. Right. Could be a total bluff.

[Aaron McIntyre]

Yes.

[Steve Day]

Could be a total talking point bluff on their part. So let's not, let's not pretend there's no gamble here. Okay? There is a gamble here that they're bluffing right now. But if you want to bet on the side of Democrat restraint, then, I mean, I'm your grasshopper and I will now follow you, sensei, because you have a level of faith that is beyond my human fallibility and capability to rely on Democrat restraint when the moment comes. Not saying it can't happen. I'm just saying that the chances of monkeys flying out of my butt, and I'd prefer not to put my entire future hopes for this republic on bank at all. Let's just go there. You know, that's worked at one time, Federal Express rebuilt their company that way. Did you know that the owner was basically out of money? This was back in the 70s as a startup, went to Vegas, took the, couldn't make payroll, took the last amount of money he had, put it all on a, on a bet, I think it was at the craps table. And it won and that's literally how Federal Express was saved. How many other times do you think that that's been tried probably in American commerce history, do you think that it didn't come through?

[Aaron McIntyre]

Is that what we're doing with Ilana Omar jokes? Maybe that's.

[Steve Day]

I mean, the fact that there's only that Federal Express story indicates it doesn't happen very often. Right. So relying on Democrats when they have the power to act otherwise, to show restraint, might happen. Might. That's a hella gamble, if you ask me. So here we are. All right, that. That brings me to what is going on with this pope. And I have to tell you, I'm not comparing him in terms of singular malevolence, because I don't think there's a comparison, at least not yet. But in terms of burrs in my saddle fixations that I can't get around, he's becoming my new fauci, this Pope is because the scam is just so obvious. I'm insulted. I'm insulted. So Aaron told you about this new appointment they made in West Virginia. So the new bishop of West Virginia is a former undocumented immigrant, or what we used to call when we had a country, an illegal alien. Except the story is more complicated than that. Avilio. I believe that's how it's pronounced. Darren. That's how you pronounced it, correct?

[Steve Dace]

Something like that.

[Steve Day]

Yeah.

[Steve Dace]

Just say it really fast and confident.

[Steve Day]

There you go. Okay. All right. Avilio is not a dreamer. Right? So this isn't a case of his parents coming across the border, dropping a kid, and then we're having a birthright citizenship argument. He is not a dreamer. Avilio came here from El Salvador. He came here illegally. Actually attempted to come here illegally. I. I've seen. I saw various reports this morning in my research, two or three times, but what I was able to confirm in my research today is that he was deported at least once back to Mexico. He finally was successfully smuggled here in 1990. Now, soon after his arrival. Right, I'm going to give Bishop Avilo credit here. Very soon after his arrival, this guy did not try to live in the shadows, did not try to operate between the margins. He immediately applied for temporary protective status because his native country, El Salvador, was mired in a bloody civil war. So he outed himself. Once he was successfully smuggled in, he then did approach the authorities to say, hey, you know, essentially, this is a precursor to getting asylum. A green card. That's how the process worked back then. So it was. It was in A matter of weeks after he came, that he then went and attempted to go through official channels to eventually become a citizen, which he did in 2006. He learned English, became a US citizen. This is the kind of case that for many, many years would have been largely sympathetic to the vast majority of people, no matter how they voted in the last election cycle. This particular case, a guy escaping a bloody civil war does not try to operate in the margins, immediately outs himself to authorities, applies for all the right paperwork, starting with temporary protective status. That was the process back in those days. Then asylum, then a green card, and then he becomes. He learns English, becomes a citizen. These are the kinds of cases that were kind of sympathetic to maybe why we have a couple backdoor trap doors in the, you know, in the southern border. Right, okay. Particularly coming out of the, the all the. The upheaval in Central America in the 80s and 90s with communist revolutions and dictatorships and the like. Right. This is. This is the sympathetic kind of case that a lot of us before we knew who a Tom Tancredo was. This is the kind of sympathetic case of a bygone era that most of America thought. It's not official, but it's okay, fair. We kind of get it sounds like

[Aaron McIntyre]

a Cuban refugee story in a way.

[Steve Day]

Yeah, yeah. But that's. It is. It's the kind of case that was sympathetic and it's the kind of case that, you know, they sold Dutch when he gave California the. The did the blanket amnesty in 86 that turned California from the state that launched the Nixon and Reagan presidencies to the most Marxist place to ever exist on this landmass, essentially. Right. It's these kinds of hard luck cases. Right, that we kind of left exception door in. Yeah. Okay, we'll look the other way and you go out yourself, go through the right channels and yeah, yeah, we can understand. But we're not in that era. Is that the era we're in right now? No, no, we're not in that era. Would we. Wouldn't we love to be in that era? Wouldn't you love to be in the area like, you know what? Yeah, we can look the other way. I'm. We're all living pretty good here in this place called America, and we can kind of look the other way for some exceptions. Right. Therefore, by the grace of God, go I wouldn't you. Wouldn't you love to have that era return? Right. But that's not the era we're in now, is it?

[Aaron McIntyre]

It is not.

[Steve Day]

It is not. Let me tell you what era we're in now, which changed since 1990. So that would have been. You graduated from high school, would have been 90. Right, right. So that would be my junior year in high school. Okay. Since then. So this is the time now that you and I have come of voting age, got married, had children, essentially lived the prime years of our lives. Would have followed Bishop Evil's biography here. Okay. Since 1990, the national debt in America has increased over 1,000%. Over a thousand percent. Illegal immigration in this nation conservatively, has swelled over 300% since 1990. Because everybody's in a. In Avilia now. They're all. They're all the exceptions. Everybody is always whole industries. You know, we all live here in Iowa. You can go to places like Perry, Iowa, about 45 minutes from here. Right, right, right. If you would have gone in Perry, Iowa in 1990, you would have seen a lot of, if we're being honest, white working class families working the meat packing plants, the processing plants there from the agribusinesses here in the state. Right. And you could go get a job in a place like Perry, Iowa, like that right out of high school, do that job, meet a girl, not have a bunch of college debt and make a good enough living that if your son or daughter wants to go to Iowa State or University of Iowa and take the college debt on behalf of the family, you. You considered that to be the American dream. We're moving up. We're moving on up. Right. What's Perry, Iowa look like now? El Salvador. That's what it looks like now. Except not the El Salvador we have now with the guy who's actually cleaning up the streets, the one here. All right. That Bishop Avelio ran from. It looks like that now. Looks like that. El Salvador. That's what it looks like. So we have whole industries that have replaced. I'm using that word on purpose. Replaced the American born working class with illegal aliens. Whole industries. And we would be in a state where we've seen this.

[Aaron McIntyre]

Yes.

[Steve Day]

Aaron, what was the case of the gal that was murdered several years ago here in our state by an illegal alien?

[Steve Dace]

Molly Tibbets.

[Steve Day]

That's right. And her father, who's out there in Commifornia.

[Senator Ron Johnson]

Yeah.

[Steve Day]

Was a sympathetic to the. Stop condemning the illegals. As you know, his wife or his daughter's body was assuming room temperature.

[Senator Ron Johnson]

Yeah.

[Steve Day]

The amount of school children who only spoke Spanish and not English or English as a second language. First of all, no one knew what an ESL program in 1990 was unless you lived In a place like California. I was a school kid in California, the 1980s. I saw it there. But unless you lived in a state like that, you know, you didn't know what ESL was in 1990. It's at least doubled the amount of kids in our schools that only speak Spanish and not English compared to 1990. At least doubled. The median age of a first time home buyer in 1990, according to some estimates, was 28. No, no, no higher than 30. Today it's 41. First time median home buyer in 1990 was 28 or 30 when you and I were finishing high school. Today it's 41. Aaron, you got a few years left yet. Apparently a 30 year old man was twice as likely to be married with children in 1990 as he is today. Twice as likely. Twice as likely. So let me ask again. Are we the country we were in 1990, could we afford to maybe have. Let's say, yeah, we can room for some exceptions. We're a people of grace, after all. Mercy triumphs over. Over, you know, over judgment. So we'll leave a couple of trap doors here, a couple of trap doors there. We could afford to do that in 1990, right? Is that the people we are today? Based on what I've just itemized?

[Aaron McIntyre]

No.

[Steve Day]

And how could, could I not have itemized many more things other than just the ones that I chose?

[Aaron McIntyre]

Of course.

[Steve Day]

And so I just chose that. I think that's good enough to make my point.

[Political Commentator / Guest (possibly Todd Erzin)]

Right?

[Steve Day]

Barely 2% of West Virginia is Hispanic. It's 2.1%. Barely 2% of West Virginia IS Hispanic. Barely 1% of West Virginians speak Spanish. It's 1.2%. So then why is a former illegal alien the Bishop of West Virginia? I'll tell you why. You ready for this? I'll tell you. Because West Virginians have committed a mortal sin, a grave sin. Democrats haven't won a single precinct in the last three presidential elections. They haven't won a county in West Virginia since. Like Bill Clinton, Trump has won West Virginia by 42, 39 and 40 points in his three runs as the GOP nominee. That's the sin that they have to atone for. There's no. This is not a prophetic appointment in the least. This is shoehorning your open borders agenda into your church. This is Isa, Jesus, I have an agenda and I will shoehorn it into my office. That's what it is. This is an attempt to score shameless political points from a pope, by the way, who doesn't have to deal with Evilio's coming over and being smuggled into his country because the Vatican City has strict enforcement, laws and walls, mind you, he can never do this. Avila could never do this at Vatican City. But if you won't let him do it here 23 million times, you need to know. You're a terrible. And that's why in West Virginia, you're being given Bishop Avilio. You need correcting, you need taught. This is the equivalent of letting MSNBC pick church officers. While, of course, we can't ever send the illegals to Martha's Vineyard, where all their primetime hosts hang out and live. But they can go to your neighborhoods, they can go to yours and thank you for your compassion. It's disgusting, it's shameful, and it's obvious. And that's the part I'm the most offended by. This is an obvious peeing on you and telling you it's raining. We don't have much of Western civilization left, and I don't want to hear anymore. Well, they told the Africans to stay where they are. I. You, I, I'll. I'll defer to Todd on why the Africans can't move and the Hispanics get to. I have no idea why that is. Maybe you have an answer to that. I haven't. I can contemplate a few. They'd all be really bad. And I think what I'm saying already, that I'm pretty certain of, is terrible enough. We don't have time for this. Like Sands in the hourglass, this is what's left of Western civilization. We don't have time. We don't have time to consider replacing Charlie with Tucker Carlson. Within my tribe. And your tribe does not have time for this because none of us do. This is an attempt to prove a point, not do something prophetic. But these are political points and not prophetic ones. I can get that from the spirit of the age. Why do I need to go to church for that? Spirit of the age will just do that just fine. Just take their political agenda and shoehorn it right into the messaging. Why do I need that? I found this to be utterly disgusting because it was so obvious. I'm gonna find out what Todd and Aaron thinks here in a minute after we tell you about smart credit. Your credit score may have taken a big hit over the holidays, and it still might be lingering. Might be taking another big hit now with those, you know, the tax man cometh. Although we're a lot of us are getting all time record returns. Hope that ha refunds. Hope that's for you too. All right. But pretty much everything requires credit. All right? And that's where Smart Credit comes in. They're the new science and credit scoring. Their data experts understand how the credit bureau's operate and they'll help you build a personalized strategy designed to take action and maximize your score not only by a few points in a few months, but potentially you could see a real upward change that could happen way quicker than you think. And better scores mean faster approvals, lower rates, etc. So go to smartcredit.com Steve and start your seven day trial for just $1. You can't beat that. Smartcredit.com Steve starts your seven day trial for just $1. Your results are going to depend on your unique credit profile, of course, but I think you're going to be excited to see points that you could potentially add with Smart Credit's estimate results not guaranteed. You can cancel at any time. That's smartcredit.com Steve smartcredit.com Steve start your seven day trial for just $1 at smartcredit.com Steve gentlemen, your thoughts?

[Aaron McIntyre]

Well, you know, the, the background doesn't matter so much as the application, really. St. Patrick was British, ended up being a hero of Ireland, a slave who voluntarily went back. So it's, it's really not about his background story, but it's about whether or not he genuinely appreciates that as Abraham Lincoln said, this, this place is the last best hope. And if his ministry is one that denigrates that by default by making a lot of the same mistakes that have been made in the name of the Lord. Yeah, this is just, this is not new. It's just more of the same at a time when obviously more of the same is just insanity.

[Steve Day]

Aaron.

[Steve Dace]

So the Catholic Protestant debates on, on social media, Todd, you would be able to be a good gauge of this. Steve. I know you see a little bit of it. I see a lot. A bit of it depending on the day. Those are fairly high IQ debates. We're really having high minded debates, correct? Todd?

[Aaron McIntyre]

They are not.

[Steve Dace]

Oh, okay. What would maybe help us reach the high level debates that can be helpful. Can be helpful. It would not give, it would not be giving one side of that debate the ability to just say no matter what comes up, no matter what issue of importance theologically or otherwise come up and just say to Catholics, dismiss. To Catholics, look at your Pope argument over. It's over in a lot of cases, right or wrong.

[Steve Day]

Yeah.

[Steve Dace]

But a lot of the times people on my side of that debate, no matter how low, iq, high iq, whatever IQ debate they're actually trying to have. All they have to say is look at your pope, look at the last

[Aaron McIntyre]

pope, discussion over and it's fair.

[Steve Dace]

It is fair, but it's not healthy either.

[Aaron McIntyre]

No. Well, goodness, no.

[Steve Day]

We don't, we just don't have time for much of this. I mean, we just don't, we don't, I mean it's, it's, it's quite possible impeachment proceedings are going to start about five and a half months from like now. We, we don't have time for this. More in a moment. The steve day show. All right, back here on the Steve Day show. And we are powered by Patriot Mobile. As we're entering our 250th year, no guarantee we're going to see another 250, particularly with how divided the country currently is. That's why we have to make sure that we are developing as many of our own networks and resources as we can. And Patriot Mobile has been on the cutting edge of the red parallel economy and our family. Now we've been customers for six years at Patriot Mobile and have never looked back. Outstanding customer service team based here in the US which means you can actually understand what they say. And they'll customize it for whatever your family wants or needs now and at any point in time. So keep your number, switch your number, keep your phone, upgrade your phone. You can switch networks within their main hub. They have three different networks. So anytime you're in a different part of the country, even for a temporary basis, hey, I'm going to be here for a few days and I really need better cell phone coverage than that network. And you switch me to the one that's best in this region. They'll do that for you if you remember, for free. And if you're stuck with a bad contract with a communist company, they've got contract buyout programs for you as well. So make the switch today and get started with a free month of service. When you do with my name, Steve as your promo code. Code [e-mail] Steve, code Steve to get started with a free month of service today@patriot mobile.com Steve. Let's go. And welcome in now our good friend Vanderplotz. Good to see you, brother. How are you?

[Political Commentator / Guest (possibly Todd Erzin)]

I'm doing well. May the fourth be with you. Yeah, don't say, I have no idea what that even means.

[Steve Day]

Today's. Well, we used to acknowledge it as a Star wars day before they decided to completely ruin the franchise to the point now that the next they haven't had a Star wars movie since 2017, and it's tracking lower than any Star wars movie has in the history of the entire franchise. So.

[Political Commentator / Guest (possibly Todd Erzin)]

Well, let me pivot to good news then. Good news. It's campaign season, so, you know, I've been out and about. You have? I was in Sioux City campaigning for the candidate for governor that I endorse. You endorse Adam Steen. But the reason I bring it up is there's some real Steve Dase followers out there. Matter of fact, the only reason they attended the event is they knew that I'm on your Monday program and that they wanted me to say hi to you. So, Nick Patrick and Dora, huge France, huge fans of you guys here. And then last night I was in Madison County, Bridges of Madison County, Winter Said, Iowa. And I ran into several more fans, but one guy in particular, Tyler, and his wife, two kids. Tyler says, listen, I listen to you guys all the time. Huge, huge fans.

[Steve Day]

So we can add. You guys are up to Winterson, Iowa, and Sioux City, Iowa, Huntsville, Alabama. These are places where we have a strong throng of support. Naples, Florida, if and when the Blaze finally decides they can get somebody better to do this from noon to 2 Eastern, essentially.

[Political Commentator / Guest (possibly Todd Erzin)]

So you guys are having an impact. So I'm trying to tell you.

[Steve Day]

So we've got, we've got a floor. We've got our fallback when this all goes awry. So that's good to know. All right. I'm going to sleep better tonight. All right.

[Political Commentator / Guest (possibly Todd Erzin)]

So our cheers to all you guys,

[Steve Day]

the governor's race here. And I was actually making some national news. Let's start there.

[Political Commentator / Guest (possibly Todd Erzin)]

You bet.

[Steve Day]

So the Wall Street Journal did a profile over the weekend of our governor's race, kind of using it as a bellwether for the mood throughout the entirety of these midterms. And I read excerpts of the piece that I saw online. I don't subscribe to the Wall Street Journal, so I wasn't able to read the whole thing. But one of the excerpts I read I thought was very interesting. And it quoted Northwest Iowa GOP official. So the very area that you were just in saying that, hey, as long as our base is fired up and shows up. Did you see this excerpt?

[Political Commentator / Guest (possibly Todd Erzin)]

I did.

[Steve Day]

As long as our base is fired up and shows up, I mean, it might be ugly, but I still think we're going to be okay. But if they don't, we might be in a lot of trouble. Well, I mean, that's essentially the analysis I've been giving here since our governor Kim Reynolds decided not to run again last, about a year ago, about this time April 11th. Yeah. And because we have major structural advantages here in our state, Starting with a 200,000 plus voter registration advantage, more Republicans than Democrats. Correct. And we have more Republicans than we've ever had in the history of the state right now. So we have some structural advantages here. However, you know, those aren't fortresses, they're not invulnerable, they're advantages. Okay. They're not invulnerabilities. And I, I'm, I'm not confident at all right now that we're going to have as energized and united as a base as we, as we want to and need to. And I think when you have we, we had another debate last week here in our state where the so called front runner in our race, who's nobody really knows he's the front runner. There's been almost no public polling here in this race, like by the media at all. I was privy to some privately done polling this morning, but I haven't been given a green light to share that publicly. Let's just say that some high dollar private polling is not necessarily what showing perception wise what maybe a few people would have you believe. Okay. And we have a situation where we have a very highly disliked member of Congress who is the perceived front runner. And now we're getting debates and stuff, you know, the kinds of things that would get our base interested, get them engaged in the process. We're now seeing them canceled because he doesn't want to have any interactions with our base at all. He's not, he's essentially trying to hide from them as much as he absolutely possibly can. And so, yeah, I mean if you know midterm, you can't. Midterm elections are almost exclusively turn out your base because no one really knows how many normies or independent voters are going to show up.

[Political Commentator / Guest (possibly Todd Erzin)]

Well, the thing that comes to mind is Houston, we have a problem and we do not have. Our base is not energized. Matter of fact, Steve King, the former congressman out of Iowa for 5th district at the time, now it's the 4th district who was defeated by Randy Feenstra for Congress. He just put out a long Facebook post about the issues that we have and that you have your perceived frontrunner and Congressman Feenstra who's not showing up at the forums, he's not showing up at the debates. Congressman King is a base candidate. He's the kind of guy that energizes the base. And he's saying, listen, he's running the same kind of campaign that Biden did. He's trying to hide from you. And that is not going to be anything to motivate the base. But Steve, you go to the Wall Street Journal or the Wall Street Journal article on Rob sand, basically what they're saying is that Rob sand is modeling how a Democrat may be able to win, meaning he's run against the Democrat Party, he's running against the Republican Party, he's running for Iowa, he's a gun touting, churchgoing, taxpayer watchdog Democrat. And they're saying that may win.

[Steve Day]

Think a non retarded version of what they tried to sell Tim walls as during 2024.

[Political Commentator / Guest (possibly Todd Erzin)]

Exactly. And so it is. Although he may be a wolf in sheep's clothing, and he is. And when I took a look at the Washington Post poll which shows that Trump's numbers are way underwater, but what the Washington Post said, but his poll numbers being that far underwater is not automatically translating to Democrat votes and the reasons, because the people who may not be all that happy with what's going on in D.C. for whatever reason, they're saying this party is just flat out crazy. I can't go for crazy. I mean, when you got the mayor out of Seattle saying wave goodbye to your businesses and you got Starbucks, which is not a known for conservative entity, saying we're going to move a bunch of jobs to Nashville, and they're going this just flat out crazy. So what you got though, is you got a Democrat Party that's highly energized. And they're highly energized for one reason. They hate Donald Trump and they're willing to unify on that. So they will bring energy to the polls. The thing is, Republicans should know by now you need to give the voters something to vote for, not just something to vote against.

[Steve Day]

So we have the Vice president coming tomorrow, you bet. Going to be right here in our congressional district for our Congressman, Zach Nunn. All right, what's he walking into? I mean, if you had 15 minutes alone with the Vice President, what would you tell him?

[Political Commentator / Guest (possibly Todd Erzin)]

I think what you do is you got to just really, really, really reinforce all the accolades of the Trump administration and remind them what it wasn't like under Biden. Because we take all this stuff for granted. But, you know, Trump was just getting started a year ago. But you take a look at all the things that have happened, all the things that have taken place. There's a new sheriff in town he needs to remind them of, Listen, there's a new sheriff in town that's looking out for you. Now, we understand this war in Iran may not be the most popular thing in the world. And you might be over $4 a gallon gas. In Iowa, we are now over $4 a gallon gas. But we're going to get this thing rectified.

[Steve Day]

$5.50 for diesel. And that would hit our state uniquely hard.

[Political Commentator / Guest (possibly Todd Erzin)]

Exactly. And I think what you and I said, you know, maybe it was last week, pass the SAVE act, which they should be able to pass easy. And that's a 70, 80% issue with the American people. And then get the table economics back being affordable again. You got to cast a vision for that. Why you want to have Zach Nunn be your congressman.

[Steve Day]

So we have a presumed Senate nominee here named Ashley Henson.

[Political Commentator / Guest (possibly Todd Erzin)]

Yep.

[Steve Day]

Okay. Not the most conservative gal, but very likable. Has she been campaigning on. Hey, you know, the body I'm running for Senate needs to be suspending that filibuster or putting the old filibuster back. I mean, we're not even running on stuff that our base cares about. You see what I'm saying? Our presumed front runners seemingly don't even want to talk about things that would actually energize our. And it's just weird to me. We all are seeing the numbers. We all see that if Randy Feenstra is the nominee, Hinson's probably going to lose and we're probably going to lose three out of our four congressional seats.

[Political Commentator / Guest (possibly Todd Erzin)]

It could be a double digit loss in the governor's race.

[Steve Day]

Could be. And yet there just seemingly is this like, unwillingness to do anything about it. Like, well, I mean, I, it, I mean, like, like it, like the election's like tomorrow.

[Political Commentator / Guest (possibly Todd Erzin)]

Yeah.

[Steve Day]

And then there's nothing that could be. It's, it's May 4th. All right. It's in seven. It's seven months from today. All right. There's quite a bit. Or six months from today. There's quite a bit that could be done. You know, I just, they're just like this acknowledgment like, hey guys, we know that an atom bomb is dropping the first Tuesday in November. We're not going to build any shelters. We're not going to actually try to build any countermeasures. We're not going to try to bomb the people that we know are going to bomb us first. We're just all going to sit here and let it happen.

[Political Commentator / Guest (possibly Todd Erzin)]

Explain this to me, Steve. We see this every Presidential cycle with the caucuses where the really good candidates are who we thought were really good candidates. Also they have all these consultants come in and they say, hey, play it safe. We're going to have this Lane. But you got to play it safe. And ends up they just get killed. And what's happening right now, I really do believe I don't know what's going on in the Feast Trick campaign because that campaign has been dismal from day one. But even Ashley Hinson about it's not time to play it safe. Americans aren't into play it. So they want bold and courageous leadership right now and hope that this stuff is going to go away is not a strategy. You've got to be able to communicate your message, but be bold and courageous. So I think it's going to win today and see only thing that will beat Rob Sand. And that's why you take a look at a guy like Adam Steen or even for that matter, a Zach Lane, they're being way more bold, way more courageous than say, the front runner, Randy Feenstroke.

[Steve Day]

Like. Like, to his credit, and I just checked, I just checked with Grok. Grock says that there is no record of Ashley Henson making any comments whatsoever about altering the filibuster to pass the Save America. Not a single one.

[Political Commentator / Guest (possibly Todd Erzin)]

Yeah.

[Steve Day]

Why? Why?

[Political Commentator / Guest (possibly Todd Erzin)]

That I don't get.

[Steve Day]

You're the presumed nominee. Why would you not want to show your base? Hey, I'm with you. I'm fired about the the same stuff you are.

[Political Commentator / Guest (possibly Todd Erzin)]

And that race is going to be a tough race as well. I was just in D.C. last week at the SBA gala and they do a granular inspection of all the races across the country. And they believe Iowa is going to be one of the hottest states in the entire country because of three congressional races being basically toss up category, you know, a U.S. senate.

[Steve Day]

And so we're going to do. What about the current circumstances? We all acknowledge this isn't going to work.

[Political Commentator / Guest (possibly Todd Erzin)]

Exactly. To me, the message and the messenger give me something to vote for. Give me a bold and courageous vision to vote for.

[Steve Day]

So, like Randy Feenstra did something last week, it largely went unnoticed. I noticed it though, and it was. It was maybe the first brave vote he's taken as a member of Congress. And I gave him credit for it.

[Political Commentator / Guest (possibly Todd Erzin)]

Yep.

[Steve Day]

And he voted to strip the immunity for the pesticide manufacturers out of the latest farm bill, which is not an easy thing to do for an Iowa congressional member, obviously. Okay. To me, that is the kind of thing. Right. You're sitting on millions of dollars left over from your last congressional campaign instead of telling us about how tall you are and manufacturing photos that look that could be photoshopped or AI'd with Trump, who you're the only Iowan companies not endorsed, which we're sitting here on May 4, kind of gives you an idea of the truth of whatever those photos origins might happen to be. Right. Instead of doing that, I got an idea. Why not make the election about the voters?

[Aaron McIntyre]

Exactly.

[Steve Day]

And why not say, listen, I'm Randy Feenstra and. Right. And let me tell you something. There's a lot of people out there that talk about what they're going to do for Maha and things of that nature. Now, I'm the guy that took that tough vote last week. I'm the guy that's sitting here in the agricultural state, voted to strip the immunity of pesticide manufacturers from my own state's farm bill. Just why not? Same thing with Ashley. Why not sell yourself to your voters,

[Political Commentator / Guest (possibly Todd Erzin)]

help me understand this and showcase the tough votes you took like the one you just talked about.

[Steve Day]

Yeah.

[Political Commentator / Guest (possibly Todd Erzin)]

But then saying, here's the vision when I'm governor, this is also going to happen on day one and we're going to move down. There's a lot of things that they could do to energize the base. But if you're going to play it safe because you have a 200,000 Republican voter advantage, that's a clear way in order to get beat.

[Steve Day]

I'm just going to tell you, just sitting here and running out the clock because you have higher name ID and you presume it'll be ugly. But if I just do Nothing, I'll get 36% and barely avoid a convention and win. Okay, cool. And then when you lose by eight and 10 points in November and you're a national laughing stock and you have no say or standing in the state anymore, no one's going to want anything to do with you anymore because you're the guy that blew the whole election. I just don't understand. It just goes against everything I'm about just to see. Let's just sit here and lose. I don't get it.

[Political Commentator / Guest (possibly Todd Erzin)]

The difference between Ashley Hinson and Randy Feenster. Ashley is going everywhere. She's calling everybody. She's basically being a Kim Reynolds of the state right now of going everywhere. Every chicken dinner there is. Randy's avoiding all of them. And guess who remembers that you avoided all them. When you become the nominee, it's those grassroots people who put them on and that becomes a problem for enthusiasm in the general election, which gives us more of a problem and trying to beat a Rob Sand.

[Steve Day]

All right, we got about three minutes or two minutes here. Ted Cruz was here, former Iowa caucus champion. He visited the state over the weekend, spoke at the Faith and Freedom Coalition banquet on Friday night. I know you had a chance to talk to him a little bit. So what did you think? What did he have to say?

[Political Commentator / Guest (possibly Todd Erzin)]

I had a really good visit with him. Matter of fact, we hosted him out at our farm. He's the first sitting official that visited the farm. And besides being blown away by the farm, then we had a chance to do just a one on one podcast. We're going to be sending that out in reels and the full thing as well. But I tell you what, this guy was bold. This guy was courageous. This guy was articulate, insightful, and he was passionate about the issues. Matter of fact, I got done. I told him, I said, it's been a decade since I've done something like this with you. You have gotten a ton better. But what he sees, he sees the urgency that's at stake and what happens if you lose these midterms. And he understands that the Democrats, they are unified and they are energized because of Donald Trump and because they're not in power. And he said, listen, if we lose the House, which most forecasters would say the House is going to be gone. He goes, but on top of that, if you lose the Senate, it's going to be impeachment after impeachment, just laying out, what's this thing going to be? And then he got to the state of Iowa. And while he didn't land on the governor's race, he was very, very interested in what happens at the Faith and Freedom event when all five candidates are there being interviewed one on one for a total of five minutes, I believe, believe by the Republican Party chair, given

[Steve Day]

all the same questions they all knew in advance. So you can't tell a difference with any of them, really.

[Political Commentator / Guest (possibly Todd Erzin)]

But, you know, I, you know, I don't want to share what Ted's insight was, but I think the people that attended Faith and Freedom that I've talked to, they said, listen, there's no energy for the perceived front runner. And there is some energy for a guy that, you know, has a shot in Adam Steen or Zach Lane, and there's some energy even for a Brad Sherman. But they said, overall, there's a lot of energy for Ted Cruz. Matter of fact, the people that are there say Ted Cruz got standing ovations in the middle of his speech. He was really good. Ted understands the urgency that's at stake. And I don't think it's a coincidence. Ted Cruz comes on a Friday night and J.D. vance is coming in on Tuesday. Tomorrow for Zach Nunn, the state's going to be in play. And that was in play in 2026 by things a forecast and a foreshadowing of 2028.

[Steve Day]

Well, I think Ted still holds. Now, Trump broke at last election, so he has the second most votes in the history of the Iowa caucuses. Trump had 56,024. Ted got over 40,000 in 2016. So. All right. Good to see you, brother. Thank you.

[Political Commentator / Guest (possibly Todd Erzin)]

Good to see you.

[Steve Day]

When we come back, the deconstruction continues. We'll give you the highlights or the low lights next. All right, back here with hour two, live and on demand here on Blaze TV, radio and podcast alongside Aaron McIntyre and Todders. And I'm Steve Dace. Let us know what you think about what we think via the stevedace.com inbox by emailing us steve@steve dace.com d e a c e like us on Facebook, me we and Gab. You can follow me at steveday show on X Instagram and TikTok. Subscribe to our YouTube channel at day show on YouTube and then if you wouldn't mind, if you are a podcast listener, thank you. Please hit the subscribe or if you're on Apple itunes follow button to make sure you never miss an episode. But then also if you wouldn't mind, be one of the tens of thousands to leave us a five star review. We appreciate each and every one of those as well as we appreciate our friends over at Jace Medical. And Jace is here for when that could never happens here, keeps happening here again and again and again. They're the lifesaver when you realize that you need it and hope that you never do. But eventually maybe you do. It's not just a one off story. All right. We have very uncertain times we're living in right now. I just got sent by a good friend of mine some video of the of a prominent airport over in the UAE just struck by Iranian missiles. And there's all kinds of stuff online that the UAE is basically on their last nerve with Iran and maybe just going to go all in that this regime's got to go. Okay, so is that bluster? We don't know. But is it uncertainty? We do know it's that, right? So make sure you're ready for that can never happen here. When it happens here again and again and again, make sure you've got the OG Jace case of venerable proven antibiotics, some of the most important meds in all of human history. You can expand it to stuff that is unique to you and your family situation as well. And they've got a full menu of things. When it comes to preparedness in medical care, take as much control over your health care as you can by entering the promo code DACE at checkout for a discount on your [e-mail] j a s e promo code dace promo code dacejace.com that's promo code dace for the [e-mail]. well, we debuted this segment back in January when we first came back. And I will tell you, this is accelerated. What's today? May 4th. Right. This is accelerated to levels I did not foresee. The structure of what is sadly happening to Tucker Carlson I did foresee because I recognize what's happening here in a theological sense is he's deconstructing his worldview. And then the only question is when somebody deconstructs it's to then reconstruct what in its place. And that, that's the part that's still open for some debate. But the fact that he is a fully deconstructing figure is not. And that's why I came up with the idea of starting this segment when we returned back in early January. But the pace of this has gone beyond even what I feared when we started this. And I want to make sure everybody understands that. When several friends of mine noticed ominous trend lines in Tucker well over a year ago, I was still adamant because I could still communicate with him. I was still adamant. Hey, you know, let's not create a self fulfilling prophecy here. This guy is a very, has been a very important, formidable intellect on our side in the past. Let's, let's. It's one thing to be right, it's another to be early, you know what I'm saying? Okay. Where you kind of speak something into existence and therefore start acting as if it is before it is what you fear it is. Does that make sense?

[Aaron McIntyre]

Yes.

[Steve Day]

Not to mention this guy's body of work. I mean I, I would take, wouldn't he debut 2018 is when he debuted on Fox, right. In place of Bill O'Reilly, wasn't it 2017, 2018, somewhere in there.

[Aaron McIntyre]

I'll trust your memory on that one.

[Steve Day]

And up until when they let him in 2023, I would take those five or six years of content that he compiled in that primetime slot at Fox and put it up against anybody in the history of the American right, in my lifetime's body of work, not named Rush Limbaugh and not bat an eyelash at it. So, and one more thing I should, I should say, and I should say this more often, frankly, I still think many of the reasons why people are drawn to him even as he more exposes his deconstruction, I understand them. And, and I, and I do think those of you, particularly the young, the young adults that are in need of some explanation. And therefore, since you haven't gotten really any, you're in search of alternative theories and narratives. I'm sympathetic to that. And I think, I think this is why you originally were comparing what Tucker was doing to what I did earlier in my career, because I was, I was trying to figure out, okay, where'd we go off the rails as a baby Christian? And I'm watching a bunch of the biggest Christian leaders that, you know, after I got converted, I'm, I look up to and I'm, you know, letting them disciple me from afar with their content. And I'm watching them sign up with the, the guy who gave America gay marriage named Mitt Romney over a former Southern Baptist Minister with a 100 who's been 100 on all the issues that back in the mid 2000s that we said are, I mean, we're not. I understand that some of the con, some of the, the context of 2008 seems a little trite today. But, but it wasn't in 2008. I mean, these were the issues that the Christian right said were the most important issues, right?

[Aaron McIntyre]

Yes.

[Steve Day]

No one was better on them in that entire cycle than Mike Huckabee was. I even was fine if you wanted to say, well, I'm gonna, I don't think Huckabee can win, so I'm going to support McCain, who I can't stand. But the whole thing about, I, I'm going to go with the guy who gave gay marriage to the country and put taxpayer funded abortions in Romneycare, gave Obama's worst idea before he had it. That's the part I never understood. And so I started asking questions of some of these leaders to get answers. And their answers were pretty disappointing, right?

[Aaron McIntyre]

Yes.

[Steve Day]

Okay. And that, that did have me kind of then going back and looking back at the history of the church and some of the recent trends like dispensationalism and some of those things and, and just doing shows, wondering about, well, is this what we've always believed as Christians. I mean, that is the environment that I come out of, right? Yes, but it was in a search for truth. I wasn't deconstructing. In fact, I was trying to affirm my own belief system. I was trying to confirm it, not deconstruct it. And when I got done with that phase, did I come out of that a weaker or stronger believer than I was before, do you think, having been by my side for how many years now, stronger? Stronger. So I didn't. So that's just proof. I was not trying to deconstruct. I was not seeking to deconstruct. I was. I was seeking to affirm, to confirm the structure of what I believed. And even though I came out of it with some enemies that I don't regret making, you would sit here and attest to the fact that my belief system and. And the framework of my faith came out of that period of my career stronger than it was when it started?

[Aaron McIntyre]

Yes.

[Steve Day]

Is that what we're watching here?

[Aaron McIntyre]

No, no.

[Steve Day]

We're watching deconstructions, gaslights. This is what. That's what deconstructing does. And it's happening at a rate even beyond what I had feared. I would. I would have guessed in January, when we started this, the first week of January. I would have guessed the conversation we're about to have now. Maybe we would have it. Had it next year or the end of this year, not the first of May. It's very hard to make the New York Times look good. It's very hard to have the New York Times get the drop on you. Is that fair? Yeah. That you have to be caught in, like, obvious levels of almost elementary levels of simpleton levels of gaslighting for just Acme reporter at the New York Times to corner you on literally anything.

[Aaron McIntyre]

Fair.

[Senator Ron Johnson]

Yeah.

[Aaron McIntyre]

They're not good. No, they're not good.

[Steve Day]

Which is why some of the clips you're about to see, Aaron teased one of them already. Some of the clips you're about to see, I think, are kind of astounding. I think demonstrate what happens when you deconstruct all the way in January. I thought there was hope that maybe Tucker would just become the Ron Paul of this era. Some really quirky views on Israel in the Middle east, but other than that, has a lot of prophetically strong things to say on a bunch of other stuff like Ron. Is that a fair description from our belief system of Ron Paul?

[Aaron McIntyre]

Sure.

[Steve Day]

Yeah. Is that what's happening here? I mean, can you think of anything you took seriously, Tucker said on virtually anything at all.

[Aaron McIntyre]

It's been a spell.

[Steve Day]

It's been a spell when, when we would have taken virtually everything he said on everything seriously a few years ago. Right?

[Senator Ron Johnson]

Yeah.

[Aaron McIntyre]

And so would.

[Steve Day]

So he's getting more retarded, basically. And that's what deconstruction does to you. The fool says in his heart there is no God. And the most operative term there would be fool. And that's what you're watching. And you're going to see several clips of foolishness that comes out of this interview. Like this very first one. Let's start here. This is where Tucker begins raging against pro Israel.

[Tucker Carlson]

Evangelicals have so many Jews. I don't know how many Jews live in the United states. Fewer than 10 million, I think. But because we have tens of millions of evangelical Christians who unquestioningly support Israel because they believe it's their theological duty to do so. So on this question hangs the future of the American economy and the lives of American service members. There's no more important question. And the effort to push me away from that question by calling me names, calling me a hater, saying I'm obsessed with Israel. Okay. I would be grateful never to think about it again. I find Israel actually geostrategically irrelevant except to the extent that we imbue it with relevance at the behest largely of evangelical Christians. So you can see there's a one to one correlation between these questions and, and the future of my country. Mike Huckabee and the people he represents have made it the nation's business.

[Steve Day]

So he, Tucker Carlson said, there's something I agree with that the future of the success of his country is a one to one to these evangelical Christians. He's right. It's just not the way that he said, you know, over the years on this show, how many times have we gotten, have we gone after the boomer generation collectively as a generation for how it wrecked America?

[Aaron McIntyre]

Yeah.

[Steve Day]

And then a bunch of well meaning Christian boomers would email us. We were talking about me. And how many times did I say, I'm not talking about you. You guys are the ones that were the counterculture to the counterculture. How many times have I made this point? Many, many. You said here next to me while I made that point. Clarification. Many, many times. Right. All right. The, the Christian right that he's condemning those evangelicals there, they're the only reason that you and I aren't in a prison cell in America named after Tommy Robinson right now. They're the only reason why they essentially provided the third leg of Reagan stool. Donald Trump and MAGA never happens without them. White evangelicals. This is just data, straight up data. Yeah. In terms of winning national elections, Catholics tend to be the swing group that decides things. You know why? There's not a swing group of white evangelicals. Collectively, they're the most right wing voters in America. We're not the swing group. We're the base of this party and the group of voters that were discipled by the Francis Schaefers, the Jerry Falwell seniors, the Pat Robertsons, the Billy Grahams, the D. James Kennedys. That base of voters, pardon the pun, has been the bulwark against the spirit of the age in this country for pretty much most of you and I's lifetimes and all of Aaron's. They founded cpac, they founded Eagle Forum. Most of the great things that you care about on the right from an infrastructure standpoint, with the exception of Paul Weyrich, the Catholic founding heritage, pretty much all the rest of them white evangelicals founded those that entire infrastructure. Why was I disappointed in some of my leaders for backing Romney? Because it went against everything they had stood for for decades. That's why I was disappointed. If it had been par for the course, I wouldn't have been disappointed. Right. Those white evangelical voters. The critic we have not had since we've done reliable exit polling since 1980, we've never had an election where white evangelicals were less than 22% of the overall electorate. Meaning on the low end we are one out of every five voters in America. The obsession with the black vote. We've never had a presidential election where blacks were more than 13% of the electorate. Never. And that was the Obama peak. We've never had one in modern times where at least one out of every five voters was not a white evangelical. The voters he's condemning right there, it's the ones who believe in the perfect. Because this whole flirtation that we're seeing now I used to get looked at for 20 years when I did shows questioning whether this was a prophetic Israel. Again I got looked like like the redheaded stepchild. I know that this is the new trend on in podcast to stand where we work, but this is all relatively new outside of the this whole new recent new surge and Reformed theology and everything did not exist for decades outside of Moscow, Idaho. And I love those guys, you know that. But outside of Moscow, Idaho, there was not really an R.C. sproul. There was and D. James Kennedy. That's those three, right there were about the only three seriously involved reformed voices in the culture. Everybody else who saved America from the 60s and the Christian right, all pro Israel people. So if you're glad today that we're not England yet, we're not France yet, go find a white evangelical who believes in prophetic Israel and shake their hand. Because if it wasn't for those voters, we'd already be done as a country. And that's a fact. Jack, that's just data, not my opinion data. We'd be done. We'd be done. And oh, by the way, how much do they love America? Oh, by the way, do you know who got one of the highest turnouts of white evangelicals? Our one time Mormon nominee, Mitt Romney did. Those voters who rebelled against their own boomer culture, who stood up against their own boomer culture or maybe were involved in it when they were young and then left it when they got older and had families of their own. Without them, we'd be way worse off than we currently are. They're the ones that slowed the rate of growth of whatever's happened in this last generation. Going after those voters in Mass. Is essentially sabotaging America. It's essentially demoralizing the base. We can't win without maybe one day, maybe one day the young 25 year old guy listening right now who thinks Joel Webbin is on to something. Maybe you will be the dominant voter on the right. It may happen. We've had, we've had, we've had surges of anti Semitic thought all throughout the history of Christianity, have we not?

[Aaron McIntyre]

Yes.

[Steve Day]

So it may happen. It may happen, but that is not the day we're in right now. And right now you want to win this midterm and you want to win this next presidential election. Widely condemning white evangelicals is just sabotage at this point because the people most likely to vote the way we want for the last 50 years were the ones that believed in a prophetic Israel, whether you did or not, and I guarantee you they did a hell of a lot more to save America then don't jew me, bro 46 has ever done on X. I promise you that. Next clip, Tucker is confronted with whether or not he called Trump the Antichrist.

[Tucker Carlson]

What I was saying, which is you cannot mock other people's gods and put yourself in their place, period. That is a deal killer for me. That's worse than the war with Iran, in my opinion.

[Interviewer / Journalist]

Yeah, but I ask because, you know, you've been talking on your show about whether Trump is the Antichrist.

[Tucker Carlson]

I have not said that.

[Interviewer / Journalist]

On your show, the day after Easter, you noted he did not put his hand on the Bible during his swearing ceremony as president. You said, and I'm quoting, maybe he didn't put his hand on the Bible because he affirmatively rejects what's inside that book. And then on a recent show, you went further, saying, here's a leader who's mocking the gods of his ancestors, mocking the God of gods and exalting himself above them. Could this be the Antichrist?

[Tucker Carlson]

I actually did not say, could this be the Antichrist? Here's a leader who's mocking the gods of his ancestors, mocking the God of gods and exalting himself above them.

[Steve Day]

Could this be the Antichrist?

[Tucker Carlson]

Well, who knows? I don't know where that comes from, but I know that those words never left my lips because I'm not sure I fully understand what the Antichrist is. If there's just one. I actually tried to understand it. I may have said some are asking that. I'm not weighing in on that because I don't understand it. Just to be totally.

[Steve Day]

No.

[Interviewer / Journalist]

In Revelations, obviously, the absolute, just gaslighting

[Steve Day]

it right to his face.

[Steve Dace]

It's hard to watch.

[Steve Day]

I mean, that is literally. Depends on what the definition of the word is is. That is literally. You'll not. You'll choose your doctor, keep your doctor, whatever you want. That's just gaslighting it right to your face. That's like, wait, my followers are retarded, and if I just tell them it was just an AI and a fake video, they'll do it? That's just someone who has so low regard for their own audience that that's who they think. You'll just literally. That's what cult leaders think. I'll just get them to let my people just do whatever I want them to do. I don't think there's any more commentary needed for that. Aaron's comment is the best one. That's hard to watch, but let's keep going. Trump apparently has supernatural powers now instead.

[Tucker Carlson]

You know, there were a lot of cowardly people, as there always are. And Trump engenders cowardice in the people around him through intimidation. And there is a kind of quality that he has that's spellbinding. And I think it probably literally is a spell. And the effect is to weaken people around him and make them more compliant and more confused. And I've experienced this myself. You spend a day with Trump and sort of like you're in this kind of dreamland. It's like smoking hash or something. It's interesting. Very interesting. And there may be a supernatural component to it. I'm not a theologian, but it's real. And anyone who's been around him can tell you it's real.

[Steve Day]

So Trump's a warlock. He's casting spells. Why doesn't he cast one? To get all the legacy media people to stop lying about him and calling him Hitler. This is kind of like if Benny Hinn had the power to heal, why not go to the youth AIDS wards and cure the kids that with aids. Right, okay. Or congenital birth defects. Go there. If Trump could really cast spells on people of a supernatural variety, why wouldn't you cast them on your enemies to get them to stop doing what they're doing to you? You know, like shooting you, trying to put you in prison, trying to bankrupt you. Thoughts?

[Aaron McIntyre]

It's. He's got a very, very destructive Jon Stewart clown nose on, clown nose off thing going on where he. In the exact same interview, in the exact same breath almost, he will claim to be a expert on the fundamentals of scripture, and then he will pull the, well, I'm not a theologian kind of thing. And he keeps toggling back and forth.

[Steve Day]

It's a classic gaslighting. It's a classic cultic gaslighting, demagogue, deconstructing tactic. It's classic, right out of the playbook.

[Aaron McIntyre]

It's also why Jon Stewart, ultimately, at his height, was so successful. And I do worry that while it appears that it's chaotic and, as Aaron said, hard to watch, I just. There's an Appetite right now.

[Steve Day]

100 there is. Which is why I'm doing this. For 100 there is. That's why we're doing this.

[Aaron McIntyre]

There's a lot of people who share that same.

[Steve Day]

If I did not. If I was not concerned that even the elect would be deceived by what is happening right now. If I was not concerned that that's the times in which we're living, I wouldn't be doing this right now. I mean, we could do this with a Young Turks. Every Young Turks episode that's ever. That's ever been done. Right. How many breakdowns of a Young Turks episode have I ever done? It's a low number. Zero. They're not. They're not impeding. They're not. They're not. They're not. They're not infesting the field that I'm trying to work in, that I'm called to work in. He is.

[Aaron McIntyre]

See? And it doesn't. Even if you provide evidence into like we just saw evidence of him saying something. If, if they don't believe they're ultimately really responsible for what they say. And that's what the clown nose on, clown nose off thing is. It's a total avoidance of responsibility while getting to say anything.

[Steve Day]

And that's what every demagogue, every gaslighter,

[Aaron McIntyre]

every cult leader, he's doing what he

[Steve Day]

says Donald Trump describing as sociopath.

[Aaron McIntyre]

He's doing what he says Donald Trump is doing to other people.

[Steve Dace]

If you want to, if I can interject this because I think it's really important. I kind of rolled my eyes when Jeremy Boreing said, hey, I'm back, I've got a new podcast.

[Steve Day]

Okay. So does everybody else but man.

[Steve Dace]

Former Daily Wire CEO Jeremy Boreing, he did an episode about two weeks ago, maybe it was just last week, actually. The nuts and bolts of how Tucker Carlson and Candace Owens, how they communicate and the stuff that they pull. You should go look for that episode. It was last week. From Jeremy Bore in the nuts and bolts. It's very, very Soviet, both of them.

[Steve Day]

I don't know if there's a cadence to how they talk stuff like that.

[Steve Dace]

Yes.

[Steve Day]

Yeah. Saying stuff blanketly like this has already been determined. This has already been solved. It's already known.

[Steve Dace]

The pre suasion.

[Steve Day]

Yes. So he's going to try this here again. This guy is getting exposed and cornered by some acme run of the mill, fill in the blank New York Times activist. Which just goes to show you how shallow and this all is and why he puts nobody on that can really challenge him. All right. And you're going to see maybe the most embarrassing of them all is this final clip. Watch this.

[Tucker Carlson]

JD has been subject to. This is well known, but I'll just confirm it. Non stop treachery from people on the neoconservative side. Who are these people around Marco Rubio and they have been totally against J.D. vance from the very beginning.

[Interviewer / Journalist]

Who do you mean specifically?

[Tucker Carlson]

You know, I don't know is the real answer. I don't know.

[Interviewer / Journalist]

You're accusing people of treachery. So I'm wondering.

[Tucker Carlson]

Well, I know there's been a lot of treachery for sure. And I know they've been. They were so mad about J.D. getting that job. I mean, they.

[Interviewer / Journalist]

Who's they within the White House?

[Tucker Carlson]

I don't, you know, I don't know the answer to that. I've never worked there. So, like, if you don't work there, you can say you, you know, you can say what you think you know. But it's hard to really know.

[Interviewer / Journalist]

This is me looking skeptical.

[Tucker Carlson]

Yeah. Well, no, but it's me being honest. Like, I don't really know.

[Steve Day]

Except he said he could confirm. He started with, so I'll just go ahead and confirm it. There's that cadence thing you were just talking about there, though, Aaron, where there's like the slight pause to get you in and then closes the deal. Then later though, he can't confirm anything. And of course, JD and Rubio basically sing off the same song sheet. They talk about being on a ticket together again. We start with let's blindly and universally try to sabotage the voting block that made the complaints we currently have even possible. We all would have been over. We'd have been over 30 years ago if it weren't for white evangelical voters defying their boomer generation. Those are the people, the ones who believed in prophetic Israel. Those are the ones he's condemning there. So let's go right after the base of people that are the heart and soul of why there's any of America left at all. And then let me just go ahead and just admit I have no evidence, nothing at all. Let me just go and touch off a JD Vance Marco Rubio Civil War. While we're at it. This is what the last four clips and compilations of them. Among the most demonic gaslighting displays I've ever. I've ever shown you on this show. And amongst the most dangerous because they're aimed right at us from behind us. It's a lot easier to see it when it's coming from the other side. It's a lot harder to see it when it's someone wearing your uniform that you once held in a very high rank that once kissed your cheek too. So what kind of audience does this guy have and where are they from? So, Aaron, you sent this to me over the weekend and, and I didn't really know much about it and essentially we're short on time. So I'm going to try to do this as quick as I can. A benevolent white hacker wanted to kind of verify how much do these various platforms on the right really have gave him a heads up, right, that he's gonna. He was gonna do this. Right. And a couple of them, like Newsmax put the security protocols in place that he could not Tucker.

[Steve Dace]

And well, they did not. But they took. They took his advice. And then after, after the fact, the.

[Steve Day]

So the. So Tucker's show just ignored him. So this guy is. This hacker is claiming. And there's a. You can look at my post on X. And Grok walks all the way through why all of this is true. All right, it's a four panel thing. I think, all right, that this is not a snapshot, it's not individual subscribers. That essentially this guy made the whole thing up or the numbers are right. It's not a misread. Either the guy made the whole thing up and, and Grok thinks he did not make it up or that that, that Tucker Carlson has only 7,000 some odd subscribers. Now his network countered this with saying we have 56 million total views. Why didn't they counter with how many subscribers they actually have? Well, because if they come back and the numbers like 25,000 or 50,000, that's the real number. The problem is Tucker Carlson is not marking himself as a just a businessman, but a guy that is going to completely singularly reset American foreign. Foreign policy. You're not resetting American foreign policy with 25 or 50, 000 subscribers. You're not going to do it with 150, 000 subscribers, frankly. So now he's kind of caught. So he can't really argue the subscriber number. So he's got to argue the total views. Now let's assume his total views are accurate. For the sake of argument, I'm going to assume he had 56 million total views. That's across every single platform that he's been on in the last year. Let's assume that's correct. How would you be able to then rationalize only 7,000 plus subscribers? Well, Steve, young men don't have money. It's nine bucks a month. I don't think that's it. Many of your views aren't from this country. They're foreigners. You know, like when you're on Iranian state TV and every Muslim country in the world is just fascinated with you because you're as obsessed with the Jews now in Israel as they are Mehdi Hassan's family and Mehdi Hasan, for example, coming out and saying my whole family's just upset with Tucker's Khan or obsessed with Tucker's content these days. There's not going to be a Ron Paul moment. He slid all the way past this. This guy is a source of malevolence in the culture. Now there's other clips I could have chosen too, like him claiming the opposite rationale for why he platformed Nick Fuentes than what he actually said at the time. There are several other clips of this. We, we could have done an entire show of clips from this interview. I don't say this with any joy, I don't say this with any glee, but only because it's what I really believe to be true. Tucker Carlson is a malevolent presence, be warned. And in that interview right there, he essentially tries to sabotage our existing coalition which could not be held together without white evangelicals, and now is trying to sabotage what we hope is our future coalition, which is an alliance of JD and Rubio. So now he's trying to sabotage it on the back end and on the front end. No, this isn't the new Charlie Kirk. And he couldn't have held Charlie's jock strap. Frankly, That's all I got. I had a minute. You guys have any thoughts on that?

[Aaron McIntyre]

Well, that civil war you said, he seems like he's trying to foment between JD And Rubio fits nicely with my prediction that he's going to run for president of the United States. He has to do that in order to have an opening.

[Steve Dace]

It is entirely possible we were never actually fans of Tucker Carlson. We were just fans of maybe what turned out to be some fantastic writers that he had at Fox News.

[Steve Day]

I think that's very possible too. Another thing, he claims he doesn't use teleprompters and nothing's written told. Complete lie, absolute gasoline, but one of many in this interview, The steve day show. Hey, if you're struggling with too much chronic pain, that's because you may have too much inflammation in your joints. And that's where relief factor comes in. The drug free supplement created though by physicians who can prescribe drugs. No guarantee that it's going to be what you're looking for though. But over the years, over 1 million people have taken the three week quick start from relief factor. 70% of them saw such great results that they stuck with the product long term. So why don't you see if you don't see a difference in your chronic pain, that's that pain that just that stiffness, that achiness soreness in your joints, your, your back, your neck, your knees, your hips. Why don't you see if you don't see a difference in three weeks or less, especially when it costs you just 20 bucks to find out when you go to relieffactor.com Again, head over to relieffactor.com get started with the three week quick start today at relieffactor.com well, we are honored to be joined by a guy that I just think has been and I don't say this about a lot of politicians as you all know, but, but he's Just been nothing short of heroic over the last six plus years. Wisconsin Senator Ron Johnson here with us again. It's good to see you again, Senator. Thank you for joining us today.

[Senator Ron Johnson]

Thanks for having me on, Steve.

[Steve Day]

Always a pleasure. So I, we of course had to get your reactions to the indictment that came down from one of you know, Anthony Foushee's right hand men last week where he was literally putting in writing. It's almost, if it didn't cost so many people their lives and livelihoods, I'd laugh even harder. But he was literally, as you know, putting an email, you'll never catch us. All right. He was literally leaving a paper trail of how they're never going to get caught. All right, so he's under indictment right now. We have a clock ticking right now on, on calling Fauci fourth for maybe potentially lying against Congress. I think the statute runs out on that in about seven days, I want to say. And then you, of course, had even more stark findings where the COVID jab is concerned as well. So the floor is just yours, brother. I mean, you've been leading on this issue all along. And so I mean, I yield the balance of my time for you to discuss.

[Senator Ron Johnson]

Well, first I need to give a big shout out to my staff on the permanent subcommittee investigation when it comes to Dr. David Morens. The only reason that indictment's coming down is because my staff picked a needle out of a haystack and we were writing all of our oversight letters on Covid. The COVID origin, the jab, the, you know, safety surveillance system. We were getting nothing out of the Biden administration. But we don't stop there. We go and we ask for documents from different universities, people getting grants. And that particular email that started the whole prosecution of Dr. David Moran started from a 115,000 page production from a university where my staff literally picked that email out of that number of documents that showed that Dr. Morens was bragging that he had this foil lady that was showing him how to make emails disappear and if he has something sensitive, send to the Gmail. Now that's clear violation of Federal Records Act. Now we of course presented that sent oversight letter to the inspector general under Biden. He did nothing. It took Trump to come in here and start beefing up that inspector general's office. They paid attention to that and we see that indictment. But now fast forward, because of Bobby Kennedy's commitment to radical transparency, we finally and hhs, they were not cooperating with us even out of the Trump administration. Again, you've got deep staters that are going to always try and resist disclosure. But Bobby Kennedy forced them to give us 11 million pages. And out of those 11 million pages, my staff has just been digging and digging and digging. And what they uncovered is a blockbuster revelation. It should be a blockbuster story on every major news media. But it's not. So last Wednesday at a hearing we released our report. Here's a copy of it. The title is Unmasked How Biden health officials purposely turned a blind eye toward COVID 19 vaccine safety signals. And the title is as accurate as it is incriminating. So let me give you the short version of this. On March 1, 2021, less than three months after the COVID shots got their emergency use authorization, Peter Marks, the head of cber, the group that is focused on vaccines, vaccine safety, vaccine safety surveillance, the head of that Peter Marks was briefed by Dr. Anish Scharfsman, who was the lead data mining expert within fda, who was working with the inventor of the analytic algorithm that was analyzing Bayer's data. She provided multi page briefing to Peter Mack showing that the current analytic algorithm was going to mask, it was going to hide safety signals because he had two similar injections. They were going to again, if you compare them against each other, they're going to mask they're equally as dangerous, which means they were equally as safe. Okay, so 26 days later, they presented a updated algorithm that showed 49 extreme examples of masking, hiding and 25 safety signals on incredibly serious adverse events, including sudden cardiac death, pulmonary infarction, Bell's palsy, different types of strokes. Now again, this is within three months of the rollout. Instead of, you know, pitting a metal on her chest, they shunted her off to the side. She continued to keep providing up updates showing more and more safety signals. They continued to ignore her. They gave her a cease and desist order. She worked for Cedar versus cber. She was told, stay in your lane, you're not working here. We're not interested in your data. Go away. In an interview with her, she's an 85 year old woman, she said they considered her a pest. She has Persona non grata. It's all in our report. It's only 38 pages. You ought to read it if you or a loved one were injured, particularly after March 1. Because people like Peter Marks and President Biden, all these people are saying safe and effective vaccine injuries are rare but mild. They knew that was a enormous lie. And so the American public, quite honestly, global public, never had full, fully informed consent to that vaccine. So again, if you were injured or, you know, a loved one injured or possibly died, you ought to be demanding accountability and you ought to be demanding the legacy media start covering the story, because they are not.

[Steve Day]

What avenues, senator, of accountability do you think we have? Do you think corporations that imposed on their people the Biden jab mandate, would they fall under the vaccine manufacturer liability shield somehow? Could states sue the federal government? Could a local attorney general? All right, so there might be federal legislation, but does that filter down to the states? Could an individual state attorney general like a James Uthmeyer in Florida go after these manufacturers? Where are their avenues for accountability here?

[Senator Ron Johnson]

I'm not a lawyer, I'm not a prosecutor. I know in terms of Fauci, he was granted a presidential pardon, but he could still be brought up on state charges. Quite honestly, we are just beginning our investigation now. Even though we've been investigating this for years, we never got documents. Now we have documents. Our next step is going to be to interview everybody involved under oath, transcribe interviews. They better not lie or they subject themselves to perjury. So quite honestly, our investigation is only beginning. But again, this should be a bombshell revelation. This should be on every news station. As a matter of fact, I was scheduled to go on CNN this afternoon and when I sent the producers my report and saying, I hope I can talk about this, they canceled the appearance. Now, it could be coincidence, I kind of doubt. I wonder how much ad revenue CNN gets from Pfizer. So that's what's been going on here. The pharmaceutical companies spending billions of dollars on network tv, they have captured the narrative. That's why people like me were ridiculed. We were vilified for telling the truth. The truth that the big pharma, these federal health agencies who've been captured by big pharma, simply didn't want to know. But Steve, let me add something even more despicable. Again, our investigation is all about timelines in putting together this hearing, in this report, as much as I've been advocating the vaccine injured, I never put two and two together. NIH started treating the COVID injection injured in March of 2021. In the end, they were treating 23 people with some success. They told those 23 injection injured individuals, stay silent. We're going to complete our studies. We're going to complete our treatment. We're going to issue a report. We'll acknowledge your illnesses. So again, the medical establishment could be aware of this, they would start acknowledging these illnesses and move on from there. They never published the study. They never to this day have acknowledged the serious adverse events. Peter Marks, we played a minute compilation video of him telling these vaccine injured again, they're pretty well captive, right? You want to be treated, so you're going to stay silent. Zoom call after zoom call. Peter Marks kept saying, we're not denying vaccine injuries, but we're just not seeing safety signals. We're not seeing safety signals. That was complete bs. They were being shown safety signals from a different algorithm. They chose to not only ignore it, they chose to deep six it. And they're hiding behind that flawed, the invalid algorithm that they clung to. Because, listen, I didn't need a sophisticated mathematical model. I showed a chart in our hearing from 1990 all the way through 2020. On average, a couple hundred deaths reported to VAERS associated with vaccines. All of a sudden, 2021, the year the COVID injection, 21,000. And by the way, when people say, well, that's because we have so, you know, billions of doses, sure, it's somewhat dose dependent. So we did a calculation. Deaths per million doses for the COVID injections. 25.5 for a flu vaccine is 0.46 deaths per million doses. It's not even close. That's a 55 fold increase over the death rate associated with the vaccine. So again, these safety signals were screaming at them. They were made aware of the fact that their algorithm is going to hide the safety signals. They were shown the safety signals with a different algorithm, and to this day, they're lying. The American public and the media and big pharma, they're all backing them up, which is probably why this is. Even though this was reported on Wednesday, where we held our hearing and issued our report. I'm not aware of one legacy media. I was on Maria on Fox Business this morning. She covered it. Fox News.com has covered it, but I haven't seen any stories on the legacy media about this. What again, should be a bombshell revelation and a bombshell story.

[Steve Day]

So what happens? That's incredible. And that's incredible work by your staff, sir. So what happens next is. What about the window here to hold Fauci accountable? What are you hearing there on Capitol Hill?

[Senator Ron Johnson]

Well, again, you see, he's cleared of federal charges. It has to be a state. I've not heard a state go after him now. Maybe lying. You know, I don't know. Again, I'm not a lawyer, I'm not a prosecutor. My job is to uncover the truth and expose it. There are possible ways of holding these people Individual. Although gun employees have a great deal of shield from prosecution, maybe we can pierce that shield. We have to. People cannot get away with the harm done. Can you imagine being somebody who listened to Fauci, listened to Wolinsky, listen to Peter Marx, believing that these shots were safe and effective, that vaccine injuries were rare and mild? You get the shot. By the way, of the 39,000 deaths reported on VAERS worldwide, 24% to this day are reported on the day of vaccination or within one or two days. Yet if they sit there, well, VAERS doesn't prove causation much correlation that I take pretty seriously. So again, if you're one of those individuals that had a loved one die from the shot or you are permanently disabled, you took that shot because you were not provided the information our federal government had. That information was fraudulently withheld from you. You ought to have a cause of action against those individuals, against the government, quite honestly. But government creates. You know, they pass these laws. PREP act gives them all these liability shields. But with fraud, you might be able to pierce those liability shields. Let's hope so.

[Steve Day]

Senator, you have been doing the Lord's work on this for years and continue to do so, and we admire it and root for you guys to continue, you and your staff to continue on. All right. God bless, man. Thank you.

[Senator Ron Johnson]

Thanks for coming. Take care.

[Steve Day]

You bet. I want to make sure we had an extra couple minutes here to respond to what we just heard from Senator Ron Johnson. So, gentlemen, the floor now belongs to you.

[Aaron McIntyre]

Well, it wasn't just a biologic vaccine. We were psychologically vaccinated. It appears more and more, because that's not posturing there. You can see how important this is to the man named Ron Johnson. It's not politics. And the level of which he keeps saying over and over, this should be a bombshell. Story is him. It's a cry for help, like Isaiah 1:5. Where would you yet be struck if we don't care about this as a people, we are totally giving over to any enemy. Big pharma, foreign, domestic. You just don't care enough to get up and fight for yourself. You will bend over and take absolutely anything. That's what I hear from the man. And he's absolutely right about it.

[Steve Day]

Aaron.

[Senator Ron Johnson]

Yes.

[Steve Dace]

In what he ended with there, you know, particularly when it comes to Fauci or any of these figures from that era. I think one, I just did it there. Maybe a big mistake that we make is saying that it's the COVID era, as if we're not still living in it because we are, we're living with the consequences of it every single day. I mean think of all of the things that we lost. Permanently altered, permanently coming out of quote unquote, this era. It's the new normal. All of the things that were done because of the decisions and because of the advice of some of these people. What he ended with there is absolutely correct. I mean you can tell, you can hear the frustration in his voice. Maybe a state will go after him. Anybody, please. Yes. You just cannot allow this to go unpunished. And it sounds like the David Morens thing, the top Fauci advisor, at least from what Ron Johnson said. It's kind of a. They kind of got lucky pulling a needle out of a haystack with that one more, much more needs to be done. But hats off to Ron Johnson for not letting this go.

[Steve Day]

I know when over roughly 80% of adults in America took at least one dose of this, that there's a lot of tendency to say I really don't want to go back and relive this. Mistakes were made. It's just never going to happen again. So let's just move on. It will happen again. If you don't punish the people that did it to you before, they didn't

[Aaron McIntyre]

do it to you accidentally, they did it to you on purpose.

[Steve Day]

Listen, he. Exactly. He didn't even. Ron didn't even mention V safe. For those of you that don't remember, they knew all along that VAERS was a spent force, that a lot of physicians, your physician has to do the reporting for you for VAERS most of the time because there's, it's a very complicated database to report to times out on you. The technology's dated everything else. That's why a study was done about 20 years ago, Harvard did a study, Harvard Medical that found maybe by a factor of I think 100 cases were underreported in the vaccine adverse event reporting system. And so CDC created its own unique algorithm called V Safe just to monitor the COVID jab that had a sample of over 10 million people. And they knew all along that the serious adverse event, now a serious adverse event meaning something that required follow up medical care could be something as you needed to take a day off of work and go see a doctor, might have met you needed hospitalization, might have meant death. So there's a wide range of outcomes there in a serious adverse event. But they knew 7.7% of those 10 million plus people had suffered a serious adverse event. They knew this they knew it the entire time. That's why. No, I have no reservations whatsoever about posting a noose online and saying after a fair trial, of course they knew. They knew. They knew through V. Safe. They knew through what Senator Johnson and his outstanding staff has uncovered in their own writings. They knew all along. They knew. And if you don't punish them, then they'll know that they can do it again someday. Go hard. Romans 8:28.