Is Soccer UNITING America?! | Guest: Jill Savage | 6/19/26

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Episode Title: Is Soccer UNITING America?!
Date: June 19, 2026
Host: Steve Deace
Co-hosts: Todd Erzin, Aaron McIntyre
Special Guest: Jill Savage
Main Theme: Principled conservatism with a snarky twist, exploring recent trends in American culture, politics, the economy, and how sports, including soccer, might paradoxically become a unifying force in a divided nation.

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Episode Overview

This episode explores the state of America’s political and cultural landscape through the week’s top news stories. With conservatism at its core—and healthy doses of humor, cynicism, and spirited intra-panel debate—the episode delves into:

• The left’s cultural contradictions
• America’s ongoing economic struggles and recovery prospects
• The intersections of politics, morality, and the sports world—highlighting both culture war flashpoints and surprising moments of unity thanks to the soccer World Cup

The panel also addresses generational shifts in media consumption, the looming influence of younger voters, and the conservative movement’s future.

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Key Discussion Points and Insights

1. "Bleep Lord Nefarious" – The Weekly Montage ([03:01–07:25])

• Aaron’s montage features a highlight reel of recent progressive soundbites, focusing on the left’s contradictions—cultural, moral, and scientific.
• The panel reacts with both exasperation and gallows humor, emphasizing the "death cult" mentality and the ongoing collapse of certain progressive narratives.

Notable Quotes:

• Jill, on progressive confusion:

  "You see the leftists go through the mental gymnastics of, like, wait, if I say that, then this means this. Oh, crap. My entire worldview is actually crumbling before my very eyes." (07:30)

• Steve, on the intellectual toll:

  "I am significantly more retarded than I was before this began." (07:12)

Panel’s “Worst of the Week”:

• Jill: Resurgence of "An Inconvenient Truth" as progressive climate predictions are overshadowed by Big Tech's AI/data center needs ([07:30–09:24]).
• Todd: The "sober tones" from mainstream voices equating sporting events at the White House to 20th-century lynchings is a delusional rewriting of reality ([09:34–11:11]).
• Aaron: Lists and ridicules Al Gore’s failed climate predictions and the climate movement’s ever-shifting terminology ([11:12–12:23]).

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2. The Economy – Gas Prices, War, and Structural Issues ([14:28–29:25])

• With a recent U.S.-Iran ceasefire, gas prices have dropped. The panel discusses if (and how long) it will take for the economy to rebound—especially in light of ongoing inflation and broken labor markets.
• Steve draws a distinction between short-term "fuel-driven inflation" and deeper, underlying structural issues dating back to pre-pandemic times.

Notable Quotes:

• Jill, on consumer confidence:

  "As long again as that trend line is going in the right direction, I think that people are actually going to give the president in this administration a little bit of grace." (16:12–19:06)

• Todd, on the labor market:

  "Our labor market is utterly broken. ... That's insane. That has a lot to do with an absolutely broken labor market." (19:40)

• Aaron, on housing and consumer pressure:

  "We are now paying $500 more per month on our mortgage payment. It’s all property tax. The cost of health insurance ... is not going down anytime soon." (20:33)

Panel Consensus:

• There’s a two-tiered problem:
  • 1. Recent war-related price spikes (potentially temporary)
  • 2. Pre-existing, systemic economic malaise
• Even a gas price drop can’t fix persistent issues like labor, housing, and medical costs.

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3. Sports and the Culture War ([31:26–41:40])

Main Stories:

• Giants Pitchers Reject Pride Night Uniforms: Four San Francisco Giants pitchers refuse LGBTQ-themed hats, citing religious expression, inciting progressive backlash and a stern response from MLB ([31:26–33:37]).
• College Athlete Gambling Scandal: The saga of Brendan Sorsby and the NCAA’s confusion over gambling punishments ([33:37–35:36]).
• "Freddie" the German World Cup Tourist: A European tourist’s optimistic road trip across America charms American social media, breaking through negative stereotypes ([38:23–41:01]).

Notable Quotes:

• Todd, on college football idolatry:

  "You cannot continue to have people watching the porn and complaining about what's on the porn at the same time and take them seriously ... This is idolatry." (34:06–35:36)

• Aaron, on the Giants’ quiet stand:

  "Just be a headache to the right people ... They just decided, no. The answer is no. I don’t care that I’m in San Francisco." (35:38–37:19)

• Jill, on "Freddie" uniting America:

  "Freddie is the feel good story of the summer so far ... He is bringing people together left and right. The war is over—we have Freddie traveling America." (38:23–39:20)

Panel Gist:

• Small acts of cultural resistance (“just say no”) can create outsized impact.
• Sports (even soccer, via Freddie) might be accomplishing what domestic pastimes like football can’t—unifying a divided country, at least for a moment.

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4. The Generational Rift & The Conservative Movement’s Future ([73:42–94:00])

Prompted by a listener’s letter:

• A Gen Z listener laments constant betrayal by the GOP, wonders about third party potential, and highlights his generation’s wholly different media ecosystem—centered on independent long-form podcasts, not legacy TV or traditional talk radio.
• Steve and the panel discuss whether the right can survive once Boomers are not the core voting bloc.

Notable Quotes:

• Steve, on Gen Z’s "different ecosystem":

  "It’s not just a different slant now. There’s an entirely different media ecosystem that his generation has no idea whatsoever ... totally different.” (74:56)

• Steve, on the future if the GOP loses the next generation:

  "If the end result of your generation coming of age is that it does [collapse], then we deserve it ... If we have disappointed them and gaslit them so much that an entire generation ... pulls the plug on our side, then we will deserve at that point whatever we have coming to us." (80:45–81:08)

• Todd, challenging young conservatives:

  "My generation absolutely has failed you ... But don't give yourself any excuses because we failed. You don't get to fail. That's not for you to decide. Show us up. Make us proud." (86:09–87:49)

• Steve, on "fighting with the army you have":

  "There's not another army for me to go and enlist in to punch back at the spirit of the age ... The only meaningful opposition in America and in the west is Trump and his movement." (81:49–83:05)

Panel Gist:

• The generational media/values gap is real, and Boomers (and Gen X) have failed to deliver change, but now the next generation must choose whether to re-engage or give up.
• Sober realism: if the right loses the youth, it’s a meritocratic fall, not a tragedy.
• If there’s a future, it will depend on young conservatives refusing to surrender or disengage—regardless of how badly previous generations have failed them.

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Notable Quotes & Memorable Moments (with Timestamps)

• Jill Savage (on climate hypocrisy):
  "The Green New Deal, the Green movement is also just collapsing ... the rich will get richer and the poor will get poorer."
  [07:30–09:24]

• Aaron McIntyre (on MLB resistance):
  "Just be a headache to the right people ... Did they do anything illegal? Nope. They just decided, no."
  [35:38–37:19]

• Steve Deace (on America’s moment):
  "This is the army we have. This is the general we have. And we are not ... afforded the luxury of, well, let's see what else is out there."
  [81:49–83:05]

• Todd Erzin (to young listeners):
  "Don't give yourself any excuses because we failed. You don't get to fail. That's not for you to decide. Show us up. Make us proud."
  [86:09–87:49]

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Timestamps for Important Segments

• [03:01] – "Bleep Lord Nefarious": The leftist soundbite montage and reaction
• [14:28] – Economy/Inflation/Gas Prices and U.S.-Iran Deal Discussion
• [31:26] – Sports & Culture Wars: Giants Pride Night, NCAA Gambling, Freddie the German
• [41:40] – "If You Could Be Great at Any Sport…" Lighthearted Panel Segment
• [50:12 onwards] – Listener Feedback: Iran deal, generational issues, right-wing movement's future

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Conclusion and Tone

The episode blends deep concern and exasperation over America’s cultural drift and policy failures with a sense of wry humor, self-awareness, and challenge to both older and younger generations. The hosts and guest Jill Savage pull no punches in their critique of leftist hypocrisy, Republican inadequacy, and conservative complacency—but also insist that personal action, cultural resistance (even in sports), and generational renewal will ultimately determine America’s fate.

Tone:
Conversational, irreverent, sometimes cynical, frequently challenging to both the right and the left—always aiming to prod listeners toward self-examination and renewed action.

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Use this summary to quickly get up to speed on the episode's key arguments, memorable moments, and the ongoing questions facing American conservatives in 2026.

Transcript

[A]

Foreign. Happy Friday. Welcome to the Steve Day Show. I am he. He is him, Todd Erzin. He is the other him, Aaron McIntyre, and she is she. It is good to see again former colleague, always sister Jill Savage. She'll be joining us here for the day. Scroop momentarily. You guys know the drill, how this works on a Friday. It's going to be your turn with some feedback Friday coming up. We're brought to you by our friends over at Preborn who are so thankful for how so very generous so many of you in our audience have been. Did you know for as little as as $28 you could save a baby's life today, I would argue maybe save mama's eternal life at the exact same time because something supernatural happens in either circumstance either when a woman chooses to become a mom instead of her murderer or sadly, the other way around, a murderer instead of a mom. And so we're here not just to save babies, but to save souls. And also they're here to save families. And what I love the most about what preborn does is, is they don't just say thank you to that mom if they convict her and show her that it's another child. It's not just her body. They don't just say, hey, here's looking out. Thank you for choosing Life. Good luck to you. See you on the flip side. No, they're there now to help this new family get started off on the right foot. Practical things like diapers, car seats, intimate things like counseling and more. All of it free of charge, but it's not really free. And that's where you and I come in. Make your tax deductible donation [e-mail] Steve. That's preborn.com/Steve. So, Jill, you want to update the audience on what you are up to, what you're doing, where they can find you?

[B]

Yeah. So you can go ahead. Everything is always going to be on X at Jill Underscore Savage. And then you can go at Exit Memos. Matthew Peterson and myself will be coming out with additional content. And there's, there's so many things that we have yet to be able to discuss here on the show, Steve, but I know you know some of it behind the scenes. And as soon as we can possibly tell your audience, they will absolutely know what's going on. But at Exit Memos for right now,

[A]

I trust you've been keeping up with what's going on in the world during your hiatus. If not, it might even be more fun, frankly. All right. But I Trust you're at least somewhat informed as we begin your weekly look at the week that was. It's called the DACE Group, And it begins, as it always does, with issue one, BLEEP Lord Nefarious.

[C]

Hey there, all your fascists.

[A]

Let me put you straight.

[C]

When you come for the rest of us, we'll fight you at the gate and you will lose, you fascist battaloo. What would you say to Trump if

[D]

he was here right now?

[A]

You're a piece of. I really genuinely hope you die in

[C]

a most horrific public way.

[A]

Making your city beautiful is like, a

[C]

worthwhile goal, but in some ways, the whole beautification effort felt a little bit insulting, I would say, because I feel like it had this, you know, connotation that D.C. was not beautiful.

[D]

So, I mean, I mean, it's not really a stretch to say that the same impulse that created the UFC fight on the White House lawn is the impulse that really pushed lynching in the late 19th century.

[C]

What is a woman?

[A]

This might sound really philosophical, but I

[C]

think woman is more of a.

[A]

An experience.

[B]

I can see what you mean by that.

[C]

Like, women is a collective experience that is very cultural into itself. So anyone could be a woman.

[A]

The phrase we all love our country stuck in my throat because our country isn't so lovable right now. I hate to say it, but loving our country is starting to sound like an abused spouse saying they love their abuser.

[B]

An ICE agent, you need to die. If you support ICE agents, you need to die. If you support the president, you need to die 100%. And I mean this. I don't give a who you are. My own brother supports ICE and the Trump administration. I don't care for his life anymore.

[C]

So anyone could be a woman.

[B]

No. People can be appreciative of a culture. For instance, I can be appreciative of Nigerian culture, and I can act within it, but I feel like it's a. But I'm never.

[A]

I'm.

[B]

I'm getting in a weird gray area there. If the scientists were dead, right, why has so much been made about this documentary? And what was wrong?

[A]

Well, they cherry picked a few little. You know, how many years before the Arctic is ice free?

[B]

Kilimanjaro.

[A]

Kilimanjaro.

[D]

The snows of Kilimanjaro are complicated for sure.

[A]

The main elements, as the scientific community has been very generous to confirm, are right. Lou says he built this cross after carrying wooden slats from his near west side apartment to Grant park last Tuesday afternoon. He showed the red ball cap that he put on the top beam and used lighter fluid and toilet paper to get it all going. I put a red hat to signify the MAGA hat, the make America great again hat.

[B]

So that.

[C]

That was.

[A]

Yeah, that's what I tied on top. That's not visible in the one video that was taken by a motorist. Lou says he was protesting what he calls maga, Christian nationalist supporters and the Trump administration ruling class.

[D]

He's just scamming people.

[A]

We're just scamming out of money.

[B]

Right. I can be appreciative of Nigerian culture and I can act within it, but I feel like it's a.

[C]

But I'm never.

[A]

I'm.

[C]

I'm getting in a weird gray area

[A]

there, because I was gonna say but

[D]

I'm never gonna be.

[C]

Then we got ethnically.

[B]

I'm never gonna be ethnically Nigerian.

[D]

Mm.

[B]

But then I'm seeing where this is leading, and then it's getting into a trans thing. So let me wait, because if I say I would never be Nigerian, then like, a trans woman who's like, well, I'm a trans woman, and I'm experiencing

[A]

the trans woman has always been a woman. World cup is here.

[C]

The first match this weekend at MetLife

[A]

Stadium, taking place in New Jersey. Even though some people say it is technically New York. But what do you think will win it all? Who are you rooting for? I like Mexico.

[D]

Mexico.

[C]

There you go For Senegal.

[A]

Absolutely the most one you've ever had. I'm not even the least bit angry, not even the least bit demoralized, not even the least bit depressed.

[D]

I reached for the weapon midstream. There. I almost didn't last the entire time,

[A]

but I am significant.

[C]

The weapon was reaching for you, Todd.

[A]

I am significantly more retarded than I was before this began, though. I mean, I'm. I'm without question dumber. Without question dumber. So, Jill, the guest and ladies go first here. What was the most clear port of the hell that you just witnessed and why now?

[B]

Usually after this, I am, like, completely demoralized, and I usually hate Aaron at this point in time, but I'm actually. I'm okay with this one, honestly, because we know that the leftist death cult is out there. That is kind of a way of life, especially if you watch this show. It's been documented over and over again. It's hilarious to see the leftists go through the mental gymnastics of, like, wait, if I say that, then this means this. Oh, crap. My entire worldview is actually crumbling before my very eyes. But my choice for this because it's kind of an off the radar thing. I did not expect to see this in there. We have to go back to Al Gore because he deserves a moment in time. Now, yours truly, a million years ago, when I was in college, watched An Inconvenient Truth, they had a screening at the University of Iowa and I went to it for funsies, as the kids say, and to kind of rile everybody up. And I just waited for my time and I was asking all the questions and they're like, huh, yeah, no, that actually doesn't make sense. So the fact that we're bringing An Inconvenient Truth around again. Well, now it is inconvenient for the Green movement because now we have the AI and the data centers and all this and for all the leftists to go out there and make their millions, billions, if you're elon trillions, you have to actually go through and have a crapload of energy. So the Green New Deal, the Green deals. The Green movement is also just collapsing under. Oh, we actually do want to have like really cool, fun new things and we want to make sure that like, we can all gain from this in a certain way, but the rich will get richer and the poor will get poorer. So I guess it'll still even out in the end. For me, An Inconvenient Truth circling back around in 2026 is. It's going to be my worst of the week.

[A]

I like it.

[C]

You stole mine, Jill.

[A]

Then I'll let, I'll, I'll let Todd go first. So maybe people forget everything Joel, Jill just said when we come back to you. All right, Todd, go next.

[D]

It's, it's the very sober, sober tones. I mean, Bette Midler crazy, but the sober tones. I don't know who that woman was, NPR woman or whatever, saying you realize that the wrestling and motocross on the White House lawn is the exact same thing as a lynching in the 1950s. See, this is what, when I talk about, conservatives sometimes say the whole tranny madness and girls sports thing is taking your eye on the ball of a lot of other issues. And it's important, but we made it too important. It's not just about sports or even transgenderism. It's about defining reality and what it really is. And if we will not win this with severe prejudice, you will have all kinds of people like that. Again, the sober minded tones. She thinks she's, she thinks she's smart and she isn't like an abject but. Well, no, trust me, I get it. But she just thinks she's better than you. And these people, when they think they're smarter and better at you, they literally think they can say anything at all and it's right and you're wrong. So we will live in the Upside down because they say so. She's deadly serious about that. What you just saw on the White House lawn was a lynching. You should never take her seriously about anything again. She should have instantaneously been fired for that. But she is legion.

[A]

Aaron.

[C]

So Al Gore says they cherry picked. Some days the critics of Inconvenient Truth

[A]

cherry picked some data like all his claims.

[C]

Here's the data they cherry picked. The prediction of the imminent 20 foot sea level rise. The prediction of the disappearance of snow from Mount Kilimanjaro. He did mention that polar bears drowning in significant numbers. Hurricane Katrina, direct result of warming. An influx of fresh meltwater from Greenland could completely halt the Gulf Stream. The drying of Lake Chad was entirely due to global warming. Rise in carbon dioxide levels, historically directed, caused the Earth's temperature to rise in a cause and effect relationship. Glacier national park would lose nearly or all of its glaciers soon. Arctic summer sea ice would disappear soon. Low lying Pacific atolls and islands currently being inundated, causing evacuations due to warming. Coral reefs facing imminent widespread destruction primarily from warming. Increased frequency and severity of floods, wildfires, tornadoes, general extreme weather and Himalayan glaciers melting rapidly, soon leading to depletion of water supplies. I think he mentioned that as well. So just a few of the. That's not cherry picking, that is scooping up wheat off of the stock. I don't think that's cherry.

[A]

Those are his fundamental claims.

[C]

Here's the funny thing though. You missed the memo. This is how old An Inconvenient Truth is. Now you see, all of these predictions were tied to what global warming. Okay, you missed the boat, you missed two boats, no pun intended. You missed two boats there, Al Gore. Number one, it's no longer global warming, it's climate change. That's the term du jour, whatever that means. And it's intentionally, it's, it's intentionally opaque. Number two, you missed the boat. We're not even doing climate change anymore. We're not even doing climate change anymore. Did you notice kind of right around the time that we started needing to build data centers. And I say that as somebody who is, I would say more pro AI than maybe anybody else on the panel at the moment. I don't know, I don't know what Jill's feelings are, but Amongst the three of us, I use some of these data centers to ship an app earlier this week. But just around the time when all of these tech paragons started needing data centers and all of the energy for those data centers. Just right around the time. You know what we're not hearing a whole lot about anymore? Climate change. Isn't that interesting? So that's inconvenient. It is inconvenient for them, isn't it? The delicious irony.

[A]

Get to exit Question on a scale of 1 to 10, with 1 being the odds that Jill Savage here has to worry about being sexually harassed by Lindsey Graham and 10 being the odds that Lindsey Graham is planning on sexually harassing every effeminate with a Pulse who's in D.C. for the four day holiday weekend over America 250 and a run of debauchery that would make Freddie Mercury Blush rank this week's level of total depravity.

[B]

Jill, I'm feeling good. I'm feeling a seven.

[A]

What about you?

[D]

Well, Jill is right. I. I'll come down to a nine.

[A]

Okay. I, I mean, I, I might go five or six.

[C]

Yeah, I was five.

[A]

Yeah, I didn't think it was very dark, just thought it was very retarded.

[D]

That's why I gave it a nine.

[A]

Okay, let's get to issue two. How long is it going to take for this economy to rebound?

[C]

After months of a fiery but mostly peaceful ceasefire, the US and Iran purportedly came to a memorandum of understanding to hopefully make the ceasefire, who spread last Sunday, first from Pakistani government officials, then from Trump himself, that the two sides had reached a deal. For the better part of the last week, the details of the deal were kept under wraps, with Vice President J.D. vance serving as the chief spokesman of the US government pertaining to the terms of the deal. That deal, which could be violated, invalidated or ignored at any moment by Iran, sent the oil markets cratering from within mid $90 per barrel a couple of weeks ago in WTI to holding steady in the mid-70s as the week wound on. With the latest inflation numbers last week coming in hot, ostensibly driven by those oil prices, low and steady energy costs are just what the doctor ordered. But as ever, even if Iran holds up their end of the bargain, we'll see if it's enough to make a noticeable impact for the average consumer come the midterms.

[A]

So, Jill, I know you follow these kinds of trend lines economically very closely. So how long is it going to take for the economy to rebound? Right now we are looking at the lowest gas prices we have seen since before the war began. And heading even further down at the time that we are recording this, who knows when people will watch it later on Rumble or listen to it later on a podcast. Right. So don't know what the numbers are gonna be when that occurs. But right now those trend lines are good. So on the other hand, the Fed is saying, yeah, we still don't like where inflation is at. We're not gonna lower rates, may even raise them once before the election, that was, I think, a 19 nothing vote with the first act of the President's new Fed chair. So I mean, again, this is in your wheelhouse. So we're teening up for you. What say you?

[B]

Yeah, I love it. Kevin Warsh comes in and he's like, I'm going to out Jay Powell, Jay Powell. And then he has, he's going to figure out eventually that he can't, you know, do do all the things that he wants to do, but it's still early. And then with a new Fed chair. So, you know, the future is bright for that. But when I look at what's going on with the war, we were told originally that this was going to be a four to week conflict. And here we are three and a half months later and it's seemingly wrapping up with the memorandum of understanding this week. Now, of course, that's better because your other option was to escalate the war with uncertainty in the future of all of that. And we could have ended up right back where we were right now. So the fact that people want to say it's a good deal, it's not a good deal, guess what? This is probably what we were always going to be facing the entire time. And as Aaron wrapped up with that montage, it's all about the midterms. You had to wrap it up. You heard Donald Trump this week come out and say that there were four weeks basically of the world reserves for oil, and then you would have seen bedlam. Well, the only thing that actually counteracted that for a longer time than some of the pundits believed that this could go on was because the United States, we learned this week, was making a deal in Doha that they would go through and pay Iran and let some of the Qatari ships get through. So we avoided all of the catastrophe to come through. Now, if it took three and a half months for everything to get torn down, my estimate would be it's going to take twice as long for things to get back to normal. And that, of course, is when you end up Right around the midterms. Now it doesn't have to be completely perfect, you know, the first November, the first Tuesday of November. But if people are seeing that it is actually moving in a positive direction, they're going to give you more leeway. And the biggest thing right now, of course it's going to be gas prices. Airlines, they dropped a lot of the routes for, for a lot of, you know, the major airlines were just like, we're just not going to fly to all these different cities. I think you'll slowly start seeing those come back and prices should start dropping there. But with me it's all about consumer confidence because that means that you're spending money today thinking that everything in the future is going to be a little bit better. And so that gets you back onto family vacations. Maybe you actually get in the car and go somewhere over the fourth of July. And if you're on fixed income, you're actually able to potentially have that dollar go a little bit further with the gas prices coming down. Because this is going to be one of the biggest outputs for any family out there. So I look at this and now you're going to have all of the uncertainty in the markets and that's what people are really looking for. Like, can I make an informed decision going forward? It's not going to be how long is this going to go on for? What's the future going to bring? So I look at like a six month time frame, maybe a little bit longer. But as long again as that trend line is going in the right direction, I think that people are actually going to give the president in this administration a little bit of grace.

[A]

All right, before I ask Jill any follow ups, let me get you guys reaction to what she just said.

[D]

Well, I more or less agree with everything she said within the context of an election. But if I can just take the economy on its own terms without any political consequences to it, the coming gas coming down is not going to completely fix what ails us. Our labor market is utterly broken. I mean, I just, before taping the show, I just walked over to Casey's to get, I got, that's a big

[A]

gas station chain here in the Midwest.

[D]

I mean I got a, I got a slice of pizza, a bag of chips and, and a Coke for my guilty meal there. It was 10 bucks. That's insane. That has a lot to do with an absolutely broken labor market. And also it has to do with the consumer confidence. Doesn't mean the same at all times. Right now. Our consumers are kind of Addicted and locked in. And it takes way more pain for them to make a decision to change their habits. They're very reactionary, they're not very principled. And then we also have the AI aspect of what it's going to do to jobs. We have way more questions than just this war regarding a healthy economy. And I don't expect we'll be lucky if we get an electoral outcome that works to our advantage, but it still won't be a great economy.

[C]

Aaron, I tend to agree with that sentiment. And here's the. If the oil prices hold at this mid 70 mark and we don't even go further down, but we don't also come back up, I think taking into account lag of purchase price. Cause as we're recording this, this is. Or as we're on the air today, we are sitting for the July contract for wti. So that's when the oil gets actually sent to, I think, refineries. And then it takes a while to get refined into gasoline. So the lag here places these new prices right around Labor Day. Right around Labor Day. So that's, you know, that's a time when people are doing what but traveling for football, traveling for sports, doing a lot more traveling. So that's pretty good timing. If this holds. Again, this is all incumbent upon. If this holds. The overall economic sentiment, though, I kind of share with Todd, because consumers, us, we're getting squeezed in so many different ways. Want to go get a little lunch before we go on the show at Casey's? A slice of pizza and some pop. $10. You're right. That's ridiculous. What's also ridiculous, and this depends on locality. We purchased our home in 2022, in the time since. And again, this is why I'm saying locality in the time since, we are now paying $500 more per month on our mortgage payment. It's all property tax. That is ridiculous. The cost of health insurance, which everybody has to have because government's involved now, that doesn't go. Is that going down? Do you see that going down anytime soon? You guys are, I don't know if you're, you're still on health insurance. That cost is not going down any. Consumers are getting pinched everywhere. Now. Energy prices and the derivatives of oil, petroleum, having those prices go down, those, those input costs go down, that'll have a ripple effect across every sector. So it is. It is. Todd is right. It's not just gas prices that are going to do the, the, you know, it's not going to solve every problem. But in terms of not feeling so squeezed, which I guess is our, our bar now that we're asking to clear that I think is going to, if this holds, that's going to have positive ramifications.

[A]

So just to make sure our audience can follow, and me too, what I, what I hear you guys saying, all three of you, to some varying degree, Jill, I'll start with you is you believe this to be a two tiered process, that there were structural problems before this war began that still had to be addressed. A lot of them related to what went on. Tomfoolery that went on via Covid, which was then exacerbated by the last administration, that that systemic problem is still there and unaddressed. The, the fuel driven recession, I'm sorry, the fuel driven inflation that we have seen, which might have become a recession if it went on much longer. The fuel driven inflation and the likes that we have seen in the last couple of months were unique to this scenario. That it's essentially like, yes, it's true, Bill Clinton is the last president to pass a balanced budget, but they didn't actually still address the national debt. They were just balancing the budget at that moment. Is that a good. Does that kind of summarize what you guys are saying for our audience? Jill, that we still have the long term issues that pre existed this war we still have to deal with?

[B]

Absolutely, yeah. My answer is definitely just pertaining to this war. Now if you look over my shoulder, that's the creature from Jekyll island right there. So Steve, I'll go way back further than way before COVID Right. You can go back to 1913 with all these problems and I would really just go back to like at the part where Alan Greenspan gets in and they do the boom bust cycles. There's, there's a lot. I'm an everything bubble kind of girl. I think that things are about to get. I don't know the timeframe for it. I can't tell you with a magic wand here. But I think that there are structural changes that need to be made that I hope that Donald Trump is willing and able to do this. But at this point in time, we haven't ever seen anybody because it's politics. You're never gonna go out there and actually serve the people. All the bad news that they need to actually take the medicine to make all of this better in any meaningful way.

[A]

You guys agree with that?

[C]

I totally, yeah. And I don't want to have this conversation anymore because where this leads is really dark.

[A]

Well, this Gets to the conversations we had last year and that when you're in as much debt as we are, there are only two options. You have an existential level of debt. You have to greatly increase what's going out or greatly decrease what's going out or greatly increase what's coming in. There are no other options. Right. Okay. The tariffs were devised to greatly increase what is coming in. The courts have kind of cut those off, you know, right there at the knees. So nobody's gonna vote for less government here. No one is. No critical mass of this. No, no one's standing up and saying, hey, we'll be the generation that takes less. Put it on us, you know, we'll sacrifice. That's not gonna happen.

[D]

So we're at Aaron's answer.

[A]

Yeah, I mean, so you're left with, we have to bring more in. So we're back to what I was advocating last year. Empire. All right? That's what I was advocating. I mean, because if we're not, if we're not going to decrease, then the only option is aggressive expansion. I mean, that's our only options. We don't, I don't know what other options.

[D]

We don't have the will for that either because that would include absolutely taking over Iran and we're not going to do that. We talked about that at length.

[A]

Well, we just absolutely taking over Venezuela or Cuba.

[D]

I don't.

[A]

But we start there. I'm totally in favor of that. I mean, I'm not kidding. I'm totally in favor of it.

[D]

But you keep saying, I, I, I. There's not enough of that going around. I mean, Aaron's right. It's depressing because it's going to happen. The bu, the bubble. We like our bubbles. There's just too much money, Steve. There's just too much money. This is what we are addicted to. We're not going to change. And the bubble is going to have to burst. Watch the big short and look at your future.

[A]

I will say there's more. Say there's more houses for sale in my neighborhood right now.

[C]

Mine too.

[A]

Than there has been since before COVID So we're going back to 20.

[D]

That's what I talk about. The difference between consumer confidence and consumer addiction. I, I think things have gotten somewhat better. But we are just a very soft civilization. We don't make hard choices. At some point we just decide it's might not even be economically smart. I just want to go because I just want what I want. That's who we are as a people.

[A]

Because this is moving, too, Aaron. They're not just for sale in my neighbor. They're moving.

[C]

But is that an indication that things are actually better? And maybe that's an indication of the immigrant, the mass remigration, repatriation, deportation. Maybe that's an indication that that's starting to have some impact. But I think the housing, the housing market in and of itself is a perfect encapsulation of what Todd is talking about. Nobody is going to be willing to take the shaft. Nobody's going to be willing to take the shaft either. An entire generation of Americans, maybe two, are just going to be left out of actually having a home, having a house, having a spit of land for themselves, or the boomer generation is going to get absolutely screwed on their prices. And. And I'd hate that for them because they've been paying into that their entire lives. That was their promise. Their entire lives. That's probably part of their retirement portfolio. Somebody's going to get screwed and shafted here.

[A]

Meanwhile, we take in 20 million people. They are. They're going to need shelter, they're going to need food. Right. We've been jobs.

[D]

We've been living too many lies for too long not to have the chickens come home to roost.

[A]

Four doors down for me, we bought our house in 2006 for $230,000. Four doors down from me, this is. We just celebrated our 20th anniversary in this home. Four doors down from me, a house just sold for half a million. Four doors down. Four doors down for me, half a million.

[B]

Sorry, did you move to Florida or Texas? You're still in Iowa, right?

[A]

Yeah, yeah, I know, I know.

[B]

That's a lot of money for an Iowa.

[A]

Blew our minds when we saw that. Blew our minds on our street. Four doors down from us.

[D]

Like I said earlier, reality matters. We're not living in reality right now on any of this. And we like it. We still love it.

[A]

Exit question. I'm going to put the over under on national average gas prices heading into labor day weekend at $3 a gallon. That last happened in December of 2025, and that was the first time it had happened since May of 2021. Are you taking the over or the under?

[C]

This is a really good number. This is really. If it holds, I'm going to say narrowly under.

[A]

Okay.

[C]

I think It'll hold about 76 bucks a gallon.

[A]

Chill.

[B]

I'm the exact same with Aaron. Just under.

[A]

Just under over. Just. Are you just over or like 3, 23, 25 over.

[D]

Sure, that sounds about right. Also, there's just too many unforeseen circumstances to I mean, a lot can happen between now and Labor Day.

[A]

All right. When we come back, we're going to get into what in the Sam Hill has been going on in the sports world where multiple culture war fronts have emerged there on multiple sports, not just Todd's dreaded college football, but everywhere. All right. We're gonna get into that and more here next. Stay tuned. The steve day show. All right. Back here on the STEVE DAY show, powered by our friends over at Relief Factor. If you're struggling with too much inflammation that usually manifests as too much chronic pain, your back, your knees, your neck, your hips, your joints, that's where Relief Factor comes in. The drug reef drug free supplement that goes after the inflammation that's likely the cause of your chronic pain. And you know, we've been telling you about this three week quick start they've had for 20 years and how low this price is, just 20 bucks. You know what, for America's 250 folks, they've lowered it all the more. Now it's just 17 and 76 cents. They lowered it all the more. Why don't you see if you don't see a difference in your pain in three weeks or less when you go to relieffactor.com get the three week quick start now for 17.76. So even lower than the 20 bucks it's been which was dirt cheap for years. All right, no promises, but over the years over a million people have tried relief factors. 70% have seen such strong results they stick with the product long term. Reliefactor.com get the three week quick start today at relieffactor.com all right. We welcome in former colleagues forever friend and sister Jill Savage as we continue on your weekly look at the week that was. Let's get to issue three. The culture war hits the sports world on multiple fronts.

[C]

A trio of interesting stories emerged from the world of sports over the past week, starting with the cadre of San Francisco Giants pitchers opting to shirk the Giants so called Pride Night special edition hats. In all, four of the five pitchers the Giants used in last Friday night's game opted against wearing the rainbow adorned hat with three of them writing scripture references to the Noah Covenant on their hats and the fourth opting to wear the team's regular San Francisco orange logo. What likely took these pictures 10 seconds to do before the game turned into a firestorm with the usual rainbow jihad suspects flying into fits of rage. California State Senator Scott Weiner remarked the pictures desecrated the rainbow logo with scripture Major League Baseball, then chastised the players and warned other players not to do what these players did. That prompted a response from Missouri Senator Josh Hawley, who wrote a letter to the MLB warning them against religious discrimination. Then there was the saga of the gambler Brendan Sorsby, his NCAA eligibility in Texas Tech. The Big 12 Conference, of which Tech is a member, filed a federal lawsuit in the Northern District of Texas seeking both a declaratory judgment and injunctive relief to allow the league the authority to use its bylaws and potentially punish Scoresby, who admitted to betting on college sports. The federal lawsuit seems to have spooked Texas Tech and Sorsby, who announced later in the day that lawsuit was filed that just kidding, he doesn't want to play this fall after all and will instead bet on himself and enter the NFL's supplemental draft. That story was a retarded way of finding out what, if any, limiting principle still exists in college football. And the final story that's emerged over the past week or so is the Ballad of the German Named Freddie, a stand in for oodles of Europeans and other foreigners traveling to the USA for the World Cup. Despite the incessant stereotyping at best and propaganda at worst, the continent of Europe has directed at the United States, Freddie has seemingly broken through the noise, walking the earth, driving from locale to locale in the Deep south, discovering things like Buc EE's Bass Pro Shops, Raisin Cane's, the beautiful diversity of America's interior and the joys of the open road. And a radio. Apparently, America isn't so bad after all.

[A]

All right, Todd, we'll start this round with you. Which of these stories most sticks out to you? And why?

[D]

Soccer. There was some worry, as I said, that this is not as concerning as I worried about because a lot of people not showing up to the US because the US as me and the empty stadiums, how that would be used politically. I mean, this has ultimately been a nothing burger and everybody's just moving on with their lives. But it's definitely college football. It's. If you want to call me one note, that's fine. But it's just like obviously true that now you've, I said months ago that you're, you're making the NCAA increasingly look like the good guys. And here, once again, this is, this is idolatry. You, you cannot continue to have people watching the porn and complaining about with the porn at the same time and take them seriously. All the people up in arms like somehow Texas Tech wasn't completely foreseeable and the end result of everything, all of you started and were rooting for Nil. Transfer, Porter, all that stuff, this is where it was always going to go. And it's absolutely true that you would be making the same excuses for your team, almost certainly that Texas Tech is making for theirs. I don't, I don't know what it's going to. Hey, there's this guy named Bonchi online. He's a relatively conservative guy, but he was actually saying, we're going, I hope base somebody takes a stand on baseball. So things change. And he admitted, because I'm like everybody else, I'm not going to take a stand in football. We love it too much. We're never going to do anything regarding football to stop it. That's called idolatry. This is idolatry. Everything we talk about with the culture, everything we talk about, the culture on this show will never change if we keep having idols that we don't. Smash.

[A]

Aaron.

[C]

I really love the story of the San Francisco Giants pitchers, and here's why. And Vice President Vance was right from a different point of view the other day when he remarked on the Major League Baseball chastising these, these players saying, hey, Trump won the election. We don't have to do this anymore. What he was talking about, we don't have to do the cancel culture thing anymore. That's what he was talking about. But he's also correct from a different vantage point. These guys are players for the what? Giants?

[D]

San Francisco?

[C]

The Alabama Giants? The Nashville Giants? No, the San Francisco Giants. These guys, maybe more than any other guys could have just said, you know what? Trump won. We're in San Francisco. Just wear the damn uniform. Get this night over with. Could have done that. Instead they decided, eh, nah, let's just take 10 seconds, scribble on the hat. Within 96 hours, you had a US senator writing major League Baseball accusing them of religious discrimination, all because three of these guys said, eh, let's just take 10 seconds. You know, we're not going to play these stupid games. You think there's a lesson in there? You had Scott Wiener saying they defaced, defaced the rainbow flag with signature Scott Weiner, the weirdo who likes to dress up in BDSM for their, their parades. That's just a perfect story. And there's so many lessons there. Just be a headache to the right people. Just be a headache. What did they do, anything illegal? Nope. Nope. They just decided no. The answer is no. I don't care that I'm in San Francisco. The answer is no.

[A]

So our first bisexual senator senator was Sinema Cinema. Our first homosexual presidential candidate was Buttigieg. And the guy who is the enforcer of the rainbow Jihad hats in Major League baseball. His name's Weiner.

[C]

That's Scott Weiner. That's the state senator from California. He's not that, but he very well could be. I mean, it's one of the same.

[A]

It seems like, I mean, these. You can't make this stuff up.

[D]

We've allowed it too long.

[A]

If I put this stuff into a script, people tell me it's too on the nose. It has to be more subtle.

[D]

This is my point about that woman. You just redefine reality and everybody has to start. Well, I guess that's just the world we live in now. And so now you get all the so called tough guys within the football world. Actually talking about a guy who gambled on his own team. The cardinal sin going back to Shoeless Joe Jackson. And they're like, I feel his pain. He has a mental health issue. We have to take this. I mean, who are we? We are a joke.

[A]

Jill. I think I saved the best for last. Go ahead.

[B]

You know, I just love that. And I'm gonna let Mr. Vinegar have all of that and I'm gonna go with some optimism on this Friday, you know, because Freddie is the feel good story of the summer so far. I do not care about the World Cup, I don't care about soccer. I'm not a communist. I will not watch any of it. But I'm obsessed with, with Freddie. You're my boy blue.

[A]

You're my boy blue.

[B]

He is bringing people together left and right. The war is over. We have Freddie traveling America. Things feel good for, you know, a couple of days. So I'm gonna go with it because I love that he's traveling through the south, he's traveling through the heartland. And this guy had like 11,000 followers on X when he started. He's up over, you know, 650,000 or so right now. He is the just. He's the joy of the summer. And I didn't even know that this was ever going to happen, nor did he. He was just like, you know what? I'm going to post these videos because what I am experiencing in America, driving around the country, this is inherently good. We have been told so many times that America sucks. We are the terrible people. We should be more like Europe. And you have all these Europeans coming over here and they're like, man, Buc Ees, this is a gas station, right? You just see all of this and I know like Aaron takes road trips all the time. Steve understands, you know, it's America, bitch. It's back. This is what we always wanted. And it took some, you know, some young guys, we don't even know how old they are from Germany that they're coming over here. And the best part is like they put emojis over their faces. You don't even know who they are. Like this guy just has an X account for. He had no idea. Like you get to go and like meet Ella Langley. He didn't even know who Ella Langley was. And then she's like, hey, by the way, you're going to come to my show in Oklahoma City. Like, come on out. And then he tried to get a private jet, was offering to fly him into that concert and he's like, nah, bro, I'm good. I'm going to drive there because that's what I've done this whole time. That's what I enjoy doing. I just want to see the people, eat the food, do all the regular things. And he's not going to like fancy places. He's going to like Whataburger and Chipotle. As Aaron showed on that montage, Jill

[D]

just admitted at a girl Chill live on air that the sport of soccer and a German national are bringing the country together more than college football and baseball.

[A]

Well played. Listen, we thought we were going to have white boy summer. It's Euro summer. It's Euro Summer instead. Yes. Let's get to the exit question. Last year college football broke its all time television ratings record. Will it break it again or see a decline after all this controversy? Todd.

[D]

Yeah, porn is still very popular.

[A]

So will this Jill to the moon.

[B]

We're gonna, we're gonna go up.

[C]

Aaron, do you recall, I seem to recall about 10 years ago we. I don't know if it was on the sports shows or if you talked about it on this show. The, the bellyaching about college football ratings, they were kind of going down a little bit for a little. For an amount.

[A]

Yeah. Like people did not tune in during COVID with a bunch of free time on their hands. Like fol ratings were not good. Yeah, yeah.

[C]

Well, that, I mean that was, that was that instance. But that seems like a long time ago. So to answer the question kind of with Jill to the moon, we're not putting this idol away. We're not putting that away anytime soon.

[A]

All right, let's get to the Kicker topic issue four. If you could be professionally great at any sport, which would it be and why? I'm gonna go first. It's golf for me, all right? Because you'd make the most amount of money with the least amount of wear and tear on your body. And if you look when. The only four events that really matter are the majors. One's in April after the final Four, the other's in May, the other's in June, and the other's in April, May, June, and July. All right? Is the British Open, which means by the time camps start. Jill, are you feeling me. Jill, are you feeling.

[B]

I got you?

[A]

By the time camps open and everything, I've made all my money. I've put in all my time. I could care less about the FedEx cup or the rest of that, all right? I've still got the fall. I've still got the. The change of seasons. I've still got trick or treat with the kids. I've still got college football Saturdays. I've still got Christmas. I'm not interrupting any of that, right? And there's millions and millions to be made, and I'm wearing cool clothes. That. That would be my choice right there. Golf. That's what I would be professionally great at if I could choose one.

[D]

Steve wrote this question so he could answer it with the most idolatrous answer possible. How may I polish it? Shinier.

[A]

And it's all true. I'm done before pumpkin spice season. Jill. I'm done.

[B]

All right?

[A]

The British Open and then pumpkin spice season's, like, next week. I'm done. I did my time. I put in the work, you know, and the. And the rest of my time is mine, so that's what I do.

[C]

Yeah, I was gonna say golf now as well, but now I'm a little bit too embarrassed, so I guess I'll say yes. I guess I'll say you should be. I guess I'll say women's basketball.

[A]

Oh, not.

[D]

That's. Yes. Yes.

[C]

Tell me.

[B]

Tell me as a woman.

[C]

Yeah, tell me what. Tell me why that's wr. Tell me by what standard? Sorry.

[A]

Sorry, Jill, but, like, Aaron's just out there dunking on chicks like Billy Madison. Just dunking on, like, the four. Like. Like it does the fourth graders in the movie. Just out there, just. Just dunking on these little. On the chicks. That'd be phenomenal. I pay to watch that. I would pay to watch that. You bet. Todd, what about you?

[D]

The only acceptable answer is to go back to the little boy you once were and which One. You wanted to be in that baseball. For me, it would be baseball.

[A]

Yeah.

[B]

Yeah. Jill, I'm gonna go tennis. As the only chick on this panel. I'm gonna go tennis because that's where I would be making the most money. And I wouldn't be offended because, you know, like, women's tennis and men's tennis are equally as enjoyable to watch television. And I understand, you know, Aaron could go out there and play women's basketball, but, you know, we see what the WNBA is doing to my girl Caitlin, and it's just not right. I can't stand it. I don't like it. I would never choose to. To enter into that arena, but I could. I could make a decent living playing tennis. And, you know, you get all the endorsement deals still.

[A]

So travel the World bank that season. That season's over before football Season two. Well, it ends like. It ends like Labor Day weekend is the U.S. open. Right. So you miss. You miss week one, but the rest of the season is all yours. Yeah.

[B]

So by Iowa, I was state week two.

[A]

Yep.

[B]

We're locked in.

[A]

And it's the first Grand Slams in Australia in January where it's their summer, so you escape winter. That's. That's a rock solid choice right there, sister. That. That'll. That'll preach right there. I'd like to get to predictions, Aaron,

[C]

go along the lines of sports, which has been this segment. I believe the NCAA tournament will expand to no fewer than 96 teams within the next five years. Probably.

[A]

I'm totally in favor of. It means no other tournaments.

[C]

96.

[A]

I'd be in favor.

[C]

See, I tried. I tried to. I tried to come up with a number that's almost unfathomable.

[D]

Does anybody know what sports is for? You know what?

[A]

I would actually.

[B]

Anyone?

[A]

My idea all along is actually to do 128. And listen to this. The regular season champion gets an automatic bid and the conference tournament champion does. And every year you don't know because it could be the same team. So in any given year, you don't know how many at large births you have a true. And you make the regular season matter again. That's how I do it. And none of the rest of these other minor league tournaments, they're all gone. We're not doing any nit. They're all gone.

[C]

You're not interested in the crown?

[A]

No, we're not doing anything else. Todd, your prediction go

[D]

have to overcome so much when it comes to. When it. When it comes to your sports takes mind, body, soul.

[C]

No, it's Wallet. Wallet.

[A]

And one of us here was once a successful sports podcast or sports broadcaster. What do you know?

[D]

Go ahead.

[A]

Do you have one? Or are you broken?

[D]

I'm pretty broken.

[A]

All right, Jill, go. Todd is broken.

[B]

Well, to your point, on Thursday, we have to start winning the war at home. We have to start taking things seriously at home. And that's why even Erin mentioned it before. The Mass Deportation Coalition. I think that they will have a resurgence once we actually start looking at. Wait. We need to do things here at home. That's the solution.

[D]

Oh, I was gonna say, I think that.

[A]

I hope that's right, by the way. Go ahead.

[D]

There was a minor league sports team that just had to protest, forfeit a game because their players want to do the gay pride thing. I think this thing is just getting started. By the end of this month, I think a Major League baseball team will have to forfeit a game because enough of their players won't play.

[A]

Look at you.

[D]

That's a good sport. Not like yours. It has principles.

[C]

This is a great time to do it, too.

[A]

Yes, it is.

[C]

Of what Steve said about the lockout probably coming in next year.

[A]

Yep. I don't think my prediction is. I don't think that there will be any government solution to college football. I don't think you can get anything that will pass the Senate and the House both. And I just. I don't think it'll happen at all.

[D]

So do you just. It's an idol then, right?

[A]

No, I. Well, it's part of. It's the. In this case, part of it is the political process, because to get something to pass a legislative body, you got to do 75 things when they really only have to do, like, three or four.

[D]

But they can't be done. Nobody will do them. It's. Everybody sees it. Nothing will be done. What is it if it's not an idol?

[A]

Well, as long as we're counting the legislative process in that, I agree.

[C]

Pre orders for GTA 6 come out in six days, Todd.

[D]

I won't be at work next week, Steve, by the way, I'm gonna play Grand Theft Auto. And you can't complain about it. I get my idols.

[A]

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[D]

Let's go.

[A]

All right, let's hear from this guy's name. I've seen him a lot over the years in our Feedback Friday inbox and on Buy Seller hold. So he has a totally different view than what we expressed on yesterday's show of Trump in the Iran deal. So I thought it'd be good to let him have a say and we'll react. All right. On your show this week, you guys called Vance's media blitz a tour de force and that may be true in terms of his handling of the left, but with the right he has incredibly damaged himself. Going on Megan and trying to rehab the coalition with Mark Levin, Tucker and her is a mistake because most of the base doesn't want to partner with the Jews brain rot like them. But additionally attacking critics of of the of the Memo of Understanding whose main concern is what are the details of it? As bad as a deal is worse than no deal, uh, as neocons hawks who want to drop every bomb in around Iran until all the Iranians are dead is pretty disgusting and it's an outright lie. He asks why they're repeating Iranian propaganda. Well, how do they know that it is, especially when they are refusing or could not release the actual details for so long and then there's a signed deal with details. Why is there Iranian propaganda that contradicts it? And given there are leaks of the memo of the MOU coming ostensibly from American officials, can you blame them for reacting negatively if it sounds bad? Trump's no better, as some of what he's saying seems to contradict Vance, but worse himself, he's now going against much of what he previously said about what he wants for and from Iran, which makes it like he's capitulating to them and thus making the MOU look terrible for us. Regardless of whether it is or not. Trump says it was either this or global depression. But if an obliterated nation like Iran can ruin the global economy at will, perhaps the global economy sucks and should be realigned towards America, which it appeared Trump was doing before he abruptly turned to the ceasefire option. I like you want to win, but even if we assume the MOU is wonderful, Trump and Vance's handling of it has been atrocious and in particular Vance he has further damaged his stock with many on our side. My timeline is full of people calling Vance all sorts of things, including many who you rightly respect and called friends and are going full bore into the Never Vance land, especially with the silence of Rubio thus far so called confirming their suspicions. I'd love to bomb the IRGC into oblivion and have the Iranian people take over their country, but I'm also willing to give the MOU a fair shake. However, the handling of it so far has been very discouraging. Before I chime in on this, do you guys have anything you want to say?

[C]

I just kind of think that the people who are already bound and determined to be pissed off about this were continuing to be bound and determined to be pissed off about this, and I don't think J.D. vance's media blitz media tour made any difference to those people.

[D]

I've heard this song before is just kind of like a cover of Trump and Desantis stuff going back and forth. It's shirts versus Skins. I, of course this entire line of thought, the train of thought of this show led by Steve Dase has never bought in to anybody's Kool Aid on any side of this issue. And now people are looking for scapegoats. Put yourself in J.D. vance's position. I think you're being at the very least uncharitable in terms of his advocating for policy that he is not the author of but has a job to do. That doesn't mean he should just go out and say and do anything in a situation. And we, many of us agree there is no way to come out clean on the other side of. I don't, I'm just tired of. Which is again why at the beginning of this week we start off talking about Iran. It went into people using this to talk about Rubio advance like, no, I am out of that. We've got to grow up realizing how challenging and difficult this world is. And like you said, you know who this person is. But there's way too many pseudo experts behind the non accounts. That apparently isn't you. You've put your name on it, that's fine, but I don't. J.D. vance is not the man to be tearing down at this point in time.

[A]

So let me just reiterate would have been my consistent positions on this all along. Last summer I said the president is correct that Iran cannot have a nuclear weapon but we cannot get involved in a regime change war in Iran. I said, I said at this time last summer, I don't know how to navigate those two things. I don't know how to do that without involving ourselves in a regime change. The president was able to orchestrate that with Operation Midnight Hammer. All right, so we established that we were capable. I said this at the time. Go back and listen to these shows. We archive them all. I said at the time that the president has established now that we can be. We can have devastating impact on our enemies in the Middle east without some massive military buildup or face or threat of an invasion. But a very, you know, precise, devastating and amphibious flexible style of sniper assault against an enemy. I thought that was very important heading into this. I said I was against this because I saw no way for us to not eventually come to the place we're at right now. We cannot afford a regime war. They're not just going to go away. At some point we're going to have to negotiate with them and you can't trust them to keep any deal. Did I not say all these things the entire time? And I And I did not foresee a scenario where there was going to be a clean win here and that we came to that scenario. I have to trust because I don't have the intelligence, I don't know, I have to trust that this president had information that Iran was again close to having weapons of mass destruction and had to act. I have to trust that I don't blame anybody. I've also said I don't blame anybody if they don't trust that, have I not? I mean, our, our intelligence community, especially the way they behave towards this president. It was our intelligence community who told us that Hunter Biden's laptop wasn't real and that Trump was really compromised from a pee tape that never existed to Putin. So based on those things, if you never want to trust them ever again, I don't blame you at all. I, on the other hand, have a hard time believing that the, the President who was being victimized by that intelligence community would just go ahead and blow up his entire, the entire economy that he's trying to rebuild off of faulty intel from that intelligence community, which prompted, did I not see all of that? Yes. Now this prompted some people on our side, like Megan and Tucker and others. Well, I'm not so sure how much on our side Tucker is or which side he's on anymore. But this prompted some people to say, well, this must mean we're cucks for Israel and that, and that really we are just Trump is owned by Bibi. Did these people not all say this at some juncture here this winter and spring? Now, of course, though we're hearing, it's funny, we went from, from Israel is the tail that wags the dog to now my Jewish and, and Israeli friends are now complaining the United States has left Israel hanging out to dry. Is that not currently what is happening at the moment?

[D]

Sure.

[A]

So how can all these things be simultaneously true? Does anybody know? You guys know how we went from, and see, this is, this is one of the problems that I have with all this is maybe I, maybe I expect too much from people. I've been invited to the Trump White House one time, that was last year. We, we kept it totally secret because we knew there were people in the White House who had never want us to step foot in there. I, I'm not, you know, I'm not sitting around all the time on the Trump speaker circuit. I'm not doing any of that. I'm not involved in that world. I'm not like welcomed into that world. I'm not, but I, I, I Kind of think that you guys deserve, and the country deserves that we set our personal feelings and agendas about people or situations aside when it comes to what's best for the country. Maybe I just expect too much for people that I'm willing to do that, and I expect others to do the same. Because it's literally insane that within the, within the American right, one half of it said for the entire. The entirety of the winter and spring that Trump was completely owned, pimped out by Bibi Netanyahu, a Zionist. And now the other half wants to say that he left Israel behind and deserted them. That is. That's in. That's bipolar. Maybe there's a way to explain all of this, and it seems pretty obvious to me, if you didn't have a personal agenda and you just watch Trump behave for the last 10 years. The wind blows where it wants. He just does stuff. Trump just acts on instinct, for better or for worse. Sometimes it works, sometimes it doesn't. And he likes to present himself as erratic and mercurial because he thinks that's good for negotiation. Has this. Is this not just common Trump characteristics? Like, some of us act like this guy just shocked us and appeared five minutes ago. He's been dominating the American political landscape for a decade.

[C]

So he was.

[A]

Are these not the consistencies of the entire 10 years?

[C]

He was talking about how Hamas has actually behaved really well and discussing how he thinks this round of leaders aren't very radicalized and people clutching their. I don't know, I got nothing for you. I mean, has he not shown this with world leaders and different. That's just his style.

[A]

Now I've got people. Well, he promised the Iranians that the hour of your freedom was at hand. Maybe it was then he found out that the Iranian government was going to be harder to topple than he thought. Maybe that was just a talking point that he threw out there to indicate to the Iranian regime, absolutely everything's on the table. If you don't deal with us, then we'll arm your people. Who knows? Who knows? But I, I can't believe in the year of our Lord 2026, six years into Donald Trump being president of this country, I still. Me, me, dude. I was leading the delegate fight against Trump at the convention the first time. And I've got. Now I'm the guy that has to say, do not take Trump anything Trump. He said, take Trump seriously, but don't take anything he says seriously. I now have to do this. We still have to learn this. This is a 60 day pause. If we woke up on day 59, 58, day 61, 62, and you found out that a stealth bomber dropped a frickin moab on whatever's left of the Iranian government, would you be shocked?

[D]

No.

[A]

No. And if you woke up on day 65, 66, 67, and found out Trump's like, well, we'll just have to figure that out later. I got to win the midterms and we'll deal with Iran later, would you be shocked by that? You see what the point I'm trying to drive here. The story. I said this to one of my. One of my. A good friend of mine who's an Israeli conservative. The good news about Trump is if you're disappointed by him now, he's one decision away from inspiring you again. This is how the man operates. He is an agent of chaos. He thrives in it. He's a disruptor by nature. He's been dis. Whether it's, Whether it's the new Manhattan real estate market, whether it's reality television, whether it's the Vegas strip. He's. He's a disruptor by nature. The stories. You want to know when Trump's story will be over? When he's dead. Under no circumstances should the Iranian regime be like, hey, looks like we waited him out. If they were all dead tomorrow, would that shock you? If you woke up tomorrow and they were all dead and this entire thing was a ruse, would it shock you? Really? No. No. Then again, if, if we were sitting here next year and Trump was like, well, guys are going to go nuclear again. We got to do this again, would that shock either?

[B]

No, though.

[A]

In other words, everything's on the table. Keep your head on a swivel. Learn from the last 10 years. This is life with Trump. If you react to everything he says, existential all the time, you'll go insane. Which is why I have to believe a lot of this is because people are trying to kill J.D. vance 2028 right now. Except the issue you're choosing to do it with is the worst possible one on if. If we're not willing to do enough for Israel. Is the issue that you choose to try and. And shadow box and proxy primary JD a year before it all starts, your JD's political prospects have skyrocketed this week. Skyrocketed. I agree with Ain Rali, because I bet you him and I roll in a lot of the same circles. In those circles, JD's dying in the other 80% of the country, including the other rest of Our party, his stock is soaring. People don't want to go to war with Iran. They didn't want to go to this war with Iran, let alone a prolonged war with Iran, Making Israel the issue as to why JD can't be the nominee. You thought you had an anti Semitism problem before. Holy cow. Holy cow. Why don't you just write their propaganda forum? My goodness. Who needs Joel Webbin? You don't need them weapons like, hey guys, you're. You're stealing my thunder here. I've got. I've got a content plan for 2027 and you're getting out. You're gonna. You're gonna. You guys are gonna write my content for me. No, we're not having allegiance to a foreign country being the dividing line issue of whether someone is the right president of the United States, no matter what country that is. That is a loser argument. Guaranteed to lose. Guaranteed to lose. So. I'm about, I don't know too many people that have beaten Trump in two primaries. I've been on two winning teams. We barely won them both. But they both had the same thing in common with ted Cruz in 2016 and Zach Lane this year, that is. We did a better job of articulating that we were for the stuff Trump was for than he or the candidate he endorsed did. You're not going to beat Trump on. He's not neocon enough. He's not. He's not like me enough. He's not nice enough. You have to show that you're actually better at his own talking points than he is. You have to beat him from the right running for running to Rubio as we need more foreign war. I'm just telling you I'm your friend. I'm your friend. I am. I think I've earned it, man. I've expended quite a lot of political capital and I regret none of it. It was the right thing to do. And I'll. I'll do like Folgers. I'll go to the last drop. If I'm the last evangelical under the age of 70 with a show up against the armies of darkness of anti Semitism, I'll Jon Snow that thing all the way to the last man. I promise you. I'm your friend. This is a loser argument. You're strengthening JD's hand. I know you want to say something, Todd, go ahead.

[D]

No, I'm. Thank you. I mean, this. This is Aaron realy. You said.

[A]

And listen.

[D]

No, because he's a good.

[A]

Aaron has been in our replies a million times.

[D]

I didn't hear you say it the first time when you. So it caught me off guard. But take Aaron, your. This opinion right now. It. Your name is on it. Most people who are sharing this opinion in either direction, their name isn't on it. And that's what really, at its core, bothers me about this. All of these guys demanding we come out where we stand on to Jew or not to Jew. Yet when it comes. And you can't have any influence on this, but all the things you can have influence on at home, in your backyard, domestically, you've got reasons, you've got excuses. That's why you have ignited. This happens over and over and over again. At its core, the more we talk about this, that's what really kills me. Everybody's so certain they're Suddenly got a PhD level in how to thread the needle and tiptoe through the raindrops on this Iran throw thing, when the only honest answer is that there's no way to come out clean on the other side. But there's so many other issues that if we just showed a little principle and we're willing to get a little uncomfortable domestically, which Steve has been talking about, which we won't do, and the thing we have to take care of, we have all of our energies totally misappropriated, and I'm just sick of it.

[A]

And here's the thing. It's all for a story that's not over yet. It's a pause. Pause. It's a pause. That's all it is. It's a pause. The. Well, look at the propaganda of the Iranian regime. Did you really expect the Iranian regime to say, man, they really.

[C]

We got screwed.

[A]

We got screwed on this one. I mean, they've killed 88 of our leaders. We have no idea who's running the country right now. We're just kind of trying to hang on. Of course not. Not. Of course not. Who had I had someone come at me today, and I should have when I looked on his bio, DeSantis, 2024. Another person who probably wants to lecture me. I didn't do enough for Ron DeSantis. Who knows, given the amount of money that cost me? But I'd do it all again because he was a great candidate. That notwithstanding, oh, this is all carrot, no stick. And I wrote back to him. I'm like, who has treated Trump, which president in American history has treated Iran more harshly than Trump has? Do you guys know he, he, he canceled the Iraq, the Obama deal, took all their money from them, bombed their nuclear Reactors Last year killed eight.

[D]

Killed.

[A]

Killed 88 of their leaders, including the freaking Ayatollah himself. And now you and some guy. Now, well, we're just gonna let him go?

[D]

This is a great point. This is not what. This is not really about Trump or Vance or it's not even Iran. It's about us. All of the people of no matter what side you come down on Iran, I guarantee you, most of you people, if you're at the meet where the tranny is running against all the girls, you're sitting there and you're doing nothing. That's the problem with this. Why are you willing to die on this rhetorical hill when you absolutely won't die on any real hills? That's what sickens me about all of this. You're playing Stratego like you're some smart guy. This isn't a game of risk. Good grief. Every time we need conservative men in real life to stand up, they almost always have excuses. But, sure, you're the guy that is solving this riddle. No, you're not.

[C]

Just Todd and Steve, if you love the discourse on the Iran story, you'll die for the discourse on the reflecting pool.

[D]

Yeah, there you go.

[C]

Have you seen this?

[D]

Yes.

[C]

It's been going on for weeks and weeks and weeks and weeks. Democrats hate that they're trying to revamp. Lefties hate that they're trying to revamp the reflecting pool for reasons. We've got experts on pools now coming out of the woodwork. We're experts on reflecting pools coming out of the woodwork. And it's divided on partisan. I imagine some form of eternal torment has to look like the discourse around it, but I think it's very germane and very much in the line of what we're talking about here. It's just a lot of talking and arguing about really what is right now? Nothing. It's really nothing. We're on day, what, one of the. Of the Memorandum of Understanding. Nothing has happened. We don't know what's going to happen. Nobody does. We all agree Iran can't be trusted. So why are we getting our pant. Why is anybody getting their panties in a wad? The more that I think about this, this, the more frustrating it becomes because everyone, no matter what side of the aisle you come down on, everyone agrees Iran cannot be trusted. So that's kind of the end of the argument.

[A]

Yeah, well, we have to cut a better deal with a group that can't be trusted to keep any deal, which is an argument which makes no sense to Me, it just makes none. I just think there's a lot of people that. Well, not a lot. I think there's a faction of people that thought we should have gone in and changed the regime and they just don't want to have to say that because they know they represent about 20% of the country and the other 80% is just like hell to the no. I just think it's that simple. For most. I think some of it is the dispensational issue that you raised. That's some of it. And then I think some of it is people just trying to get out ahead of JD being the nominee in 2028, trying to stake out their ground for the post Trump world, which I totally understand. I think Marco Rubio would make a fantastic candidate. I don't have an issue with that whatsoever. I'm just telling you this is not the ground to stake out. If you, if you want J.D. vance to be the nominee in 2028, keep doing exactly what you are doing. Let him totally own the I'm the guy that puts the American people first space. Let him have that completely and totally to his own. He'll take it, write it all the way to the nomination. I can promise you that. Let's continue on. I think it's time we have an adult conversation about what happens in 10 years when the Boomer generation is no longer politically active. It's blown me away how the Sean, Ryan and Rogan guests get into the water table and spark conversation and movement like nothing I've ever seen before. For frankly, I've been told to hold my nose and vote for principled conservatives my whole life and that it would get better. I was ecstatic to vote for Trump and couldn't wait for Doge and all the cleanup now yet again, like the 23 years previously I've been alive. We're at war with five dollar diesel and I can't get anything done. And then they'll go after Thomas Massie, who I held the line, who held the line for what I voted for, harder than we all will go after the Somali daycares. I just think it's time we had a conversation about what it looks like when a younger generation becomes a larger part of the voting block and won't deal with the current party because of the lack of results in corruption. My fear is that too many young men and women will give up on the political system if we don't do something soon. Is it time to have a serious conversation about a third party? Is it possible to Overhaul the Republican Party. I do seriously think we would have a shot at a third party in 10 years if the Republicans keep this up and more of my generation comes of age. I would love your thoughts on the show. So let me. So, Ben, thank you for your note. Let me say this. The, the brilliance of your post and why I wanted to share it is because you opened it up by pointing out we have a generation with an entirely different media ecosystem, not an entirely different media slant. See, that's what, that's what all of us have grown up in. Right. You and I were coming out of college, right, at the emergence of, in our early adult years. Fox started in 1996. So for most of our formative years as men, we've lived in, and we've, we've had, we have lived in the same media ecosystem, but with an alternative slant.

[D]

Right.

[A]

Aaron was kind of born into that environment. All right. As a millennial, what Ben is defining here as a as, as a gen zer is it's not even just slant now. There's an entirely different media, media ecosystem that his generation has no idea whatsoever and isn't even paying attention, doesn't see the clips. Anything. Couldn't tell you at all. Like, I still have a general idea of what Jesse Waters thinks on Fox, even though I've never watched an episode of his show because I'm in his media ecosystem. So I see a lot of clips of his program. See what I'm saying? What Ben is saying is he's from a media ecosystem. If he would know a Jesse Waters from a Jesse Ventura, he would not have a clue. If he, if he never wanted to know, he could be very informed on issues and never have to ever find out who these people are.

[B]

Are.

[A]

There's a totally different media ecosystem. And so in the past, there's always been the issue of the younger generation is concerned about how corrupt things are and will they tap out, you know, when they get, and then they get older and they realize they have to work with the system they have. What's, what is different, I would say about Ben's generation is their willingness to go along may not be as automatic as previous generations because they do have their own completely, totally different information ecosystem. So their expectations are going to be a lot different from previous generations of people as well. They've been getting new information and different information than the rest of the culture has. Is what I'm saying making any sense at all?

[D]

For sure?

[A]

Yes, for sure.

[C]

Yes. And I, that's something that I worry about for for our industry as well because of how we are geared and it's, it's, you know, that's been the largest consumer of our products is, has been the boomer generation. But a lot of things are going to shift, shift around quite a bit. And how it's, I'm not so much worried about the message, but I am worried about the venue. Like where do you go to find the younger, the younger audiences? Because it is so frag. Part of it is because it's so fragmented and part of it, I'm not, I'm not really sure where to go to find the 20 to 35 year old or 18 to 35 year old kind of right wing or nominally right wing audience. I'm really not sure the place to

[D]

go to find that there's no plan that's going to fix what ails us. We have a heart problem. You got to ask yourself some real questions like how really important is it for me to be comfortable or to just be left alone? And if those are what they obviously are at the end of the day, even for conservative Christians, we're not going anywhere. Steve mentioned yesterday, I think it was the, the Amish, you know, they, this is, are we willing to be more like them? Are we willing to just live that much differently and create our states in such a way that our cul de sac looks way different than yours right now? The Christian conservative on the cul de sac right next door to the liberal, they're all just, you know, playing the same video games, watching the same games, watching the same. Their lives aren't fundamentally any different. We're worshiping the same idols. Until that changes, there's no point.

[A]

Well, this is Ben's point. Ben's point is his generation's lives are fundamentally different. They're in a completely different information ecosystem than what's existed in the past. And it's not even a derivative of the existing one, which is what our generation created. Kind of our own media that looked and sounded all like theirs, just with our viewpoints. What he is saying is it's a fundamentally different ecosystem. All right. And so he wonders what happens if we lose that generation? Will we just see the right in America collapse? I'm going to address that when we come back. The steve day show. All right, so back here we wrapping it up on a feedback Friday. Just got this note from a young guy named Ben. He's 23. He's like, I, I'm, I don't know that the older generations are prepared for what happens when boomers are no longer politically active within the next decade and they die off. And my generation has a completely different info information ecosystem. It's getting information that's not, it's. It's not what he's saying. It's not what you guys do. Like, we're Gen X, we still get a lot of our information from mainstream sources, but then we unpack it and, and unspin it with our own worldview. Right? What he is saying is we're going to shows like Rogan and Sean Ryan and just getting holistically different sources of information, not just different takes, not just different beliefs, not just different worldviews, holistically different sources of information in and of itself. And so what happens if that generation comes of age and keeps and has voted Republican on the right and feels like they've been sold out and nothing and nothing is fundamentally been delivered to them? I mean, does this whole thing collapse? And here's what I would say. If the end result of your generation coming of age is that it does, then we deserve it. That's why I don't worry about things like this. I don't. If, if given what the American left wants to do to us as a people and how obvious they are making it, if, if systemically we have deceived our own people so much and we have disappointed them and gaslit them so much that an entire generation emerges that pulls the plug on our side, then we will deserve at that point whatever we have coming to us. It'll be sad, it'll be tragic, but it is what it is. And that's why I'm not sweating it. Because if we truly do commit to the amount of. Of gaslighting of our own side, that disappoints your generation to, to the point that you're describing, Ben, given what the alternative course for the country is, then that would be such a systemic and. And wicked and deep level of betrayal that it's deserved. And the Lord giveth and the Lord taketh away. Blessed be the name of the Lord. There's only one perpetual kingdom. Every nation gets its. Eventually gets its page in the encyclopedia or Wikipedia. Every generation, every. Every nation eventually gets its tombstone in the ash heap of history. There's only one forever kingdom. So I'm doing what I can. You know, I tell as much truth as I know how to do. I try to be as honest I can possibly be, but, you know, I can't fix everything, not by a long shot. So the end result of this is that your generation has just been so systemically lied to, that you tap out and the result is that, you know, the Democrats and the left plant the flag. It would, that would suck. But would we sit here and say that's necessarily undeserved?

[D]

I know it's deserved right now.

[A]

Exactly. So it would suck. It would suck. Now, what you hear now and, and we're listening to you now. Hear us so you understand our motivations as men who are older than you. Doesn't mean we're right. It doesn't mean we're right. Let me, let me, let me say that a third time. Make sure everybody hears my voice, particularly the young men. It doesn't mean we're right. Did I make that very clear? Yeah, but so, so that we're having. Just so you wanted us to share, you see, your perspective as a young man and how you guys see things. Right. And I think we've been very fair there. Okay. Now here where we're coming from. And then you decide for yourself if you think we're right. But see, a lot of you young, young men aren't married yet and don't have kids yet. And so you're not thinking yet in terms of 20, 30 year increments yet. Many of the older men we are. I've got a grandkid and one on the way. I've got three adult children I'm launching into adulthood right now. One of them's already married. And so it. And this is for some friends of mine too. It's not that I don't see the betrayals that you're, that you're bringing to my attention. It's not that I'm unaware of the gaslighting. On, on several fronts. It's not that I, it's not that I think Donald Trump tiptoes between the raindrops. It's that there's not another army for me to go serve in. There's not another alternative for me to go enlist in to punch back at the spirit of the age that wants to end my way of life before I can pass it on to my kids and grandkids. So it's not that I think you're wrong, is that I'm out of options. And I am right now. And you know, it's strange, as you get older, the older you get, the more likely you are to start thinking in 20, 30 year increments because you recognize your time is short, particularly when you have children and grandchildren. Right. Your time starts getting shorter. For what I can really, the mark I can really leave for them. And what I'm going to leave behind and what messes I'll lead them to clean up, that I could have confronted myself. There's. There's not another army for me to go and enlist in. The only meaningful. The only meaningful opposition in America and in the west to the spirit of the age is Trump and his movement. And I hope that you understand what it means for somebody like me to admit that publicly. All the twists and turns I've had with Donald Trump on a personal level, on a professional level, on a political level for me to now say that. And I have no financial incentive to say that whatsoever. I'm getting nothing for that. I don't have another, you know, to quote Richard Gere from a movie you've probably never seen that was made way before you were born, Ben, I got nowhere else to go. I have no other movement, no other organized movement that is even a modicum of a threat against the spirit of the age trying to end our way of life. And so I hear your complaints. I see them in much of my professional and adult life. I've aired a lot of these kinds of complaints myself. Right. Aaron, you've heard me do these shows as you were growing up with a lot of these kinds of complaints, right? Oh, yeah, Todd, same thing. You've worked some of those shows, right? Okay. But we come now to the end of all things Gandalf, right? This is it. Okay? The board is in place. The pieces are moving. This is it. We are one step away now from everything we hold dear being gone. And so I don't believe I could be wrong. You're welcome to believe I'm wrong. And I won't detest you for it at all. I'm just sharing with you my perspective and our generation's perspective, and you guys decide what you want to do. Do. Okay? But from. From our perspective, there's nowhere else to go. This is the fight. This is the moment right here. This is the army we have. This is the general we have. And we are not a we don't. I just frankly don't. We don't believe we're afforded the luxury of, well, let's see what else is out there. Let's. Let's, you know, let's sit out for a decade and. And come up with, like, a phoenix rising from the ashes. That might work. Work. But it's a little bit why I. I've opposed regime change in Iran. Okay? We could get rid of the regime. Might work, might not. What happens next. And that's. That's the the best and most sincere and and least confrontational way that I'm capable of explaining that perspective. You want to add anything that Todd, since from the same generation, just really

[D]

quick, not only boomers, but my generation. And I know Steve is right to point out that my generation's males are the only ones who did vote for Trump. But as I've said on other matters, voting is an important thing. But it's one thing done on one day. Living out the principles of what that vote is supposed to stand for is the 365 day a year thing that we put on autopilot it way too much. My generation absolutely has failed to you. We're supposed to be the leaders. We like to be comfortable and have excuses. All that being said, none of that, none of it is an excuse for your generation to give up. You're not allowed that luxury. You're not allowed that excuse. You, you have a charge to keep as a child of God, as a citizen. So you know what?

[B]

What?

[D]

Show us up. Make it clear that you're better than our generation. It won't be that hard because we didn't set the bar very high. We're hope. I mean Steve's talking about our generation doing our best to maybe finish well so that there's something left for you guys to be inspired by and take the piece, pick up the pieces of trust me, I'm counting on that. And we talk about launching. I've got one daughter engaged, another one who's been dating a marine for five years long distance. Finding the kind of man that I think you might be and you hope there's more of. But don't give yourself any excuses because we failed. You don't get to fail. That's not for you to decide. Show us up. Make us proud.

[A]

I like that challenge a lot.

[C]

You're gonna have to take power at the earliest possible moment. That's gonna be your call not to give up is here's the bind that you're kind of in that we're kind of in right now. The reason things are the way that they are right now is because the boomers are the ones who are showing up to vote. The reason things are the way they are right now because the boomers keep showing up to vote positive and negative. Now in the last election, the last major election, you know, boomers actually went to to Kamala, didn't they?

[A]

It was a tie.

[C]

It was a tie. Yeah. So it's kind of trending badly.

[A]

That was a four point loss of boomers. For Trump from the 2020 election.

[C]

But by and large, for the better part of my adult life, my entire life, the boomers are the ones who are showing up to the polls. So guess what? What are the polls? Who are the polls? Who are the polls rewarding in policy? By and large, the boomers not really thinking about the next generation. So when the time comes, you're going to have to take power and run with it and wield it as righteously as you possibly can.

[A]

East of Eden, I don't know what my other options are. I don't. There's at least a crap sandwich. I eat every day of things where I wish Trump would not do that or not say that.

[B]

That.

[A]

And I eat it every single day. Why? Because it's in the grand scheme of things. My disdain for that or frustration with just doesn't come close to be worthy of the energy it would take to express that, given what I'm up against as the alternative. See, that's the thing. I. On my phone right now, I've got a private text thread. I'll let you look at. It won't mention names, but it'd be names a lot of our audience would know. I don't know that I disagree with. It's just it. And this thing has gone on. How many threads was it after I showed it to you? 15, 20?

[D]

I.

[A]

Well, I couldn't get multiple people like a rambling screed of complaints and vents. Don't know that I necessarily disagree with any of it. Did you see the one post that I made in the thread? The one post I made was. Listen, I. I think I agree with you guys, a lot of complaints, but what's your alternative? What, what's, what's the al. I sincerely, and I mean this from the bottom of my heart to everybody within the sound of my voice. I'm really good at giving you theoretical exercises and complaints. Made a career out of it. I just don't think we have the time, guys. I'm not getting anything else out of this at all. I started off the year standing with all my Jewish and Israeli friends for six months against the anti Semitic race. Right Now I am opposed to them and being thrust into a group with the anti Semitic right. There's no financial situation for someone like me. No one. There's no reason to try to buy somebody like me off because I genuinely do what I think is right. Not it doesn't mean it is, but I genuinely do try to do what I think is right. So trying to buy me off Wouldn't work because if I just started doing stuff that I really didn't believe in, it would blow up my brand and people would know it's a fraud. Fraud. And you wouldn't be getting what you're paying for anyway anyway. So if I'm doing the least financially beneficial content you could probably do, My goal is to bring into the mainstream the worldview that's gotten more people killed than anything else on this earth. Believing the word of God. So right away, there's some limiting principles here.

[D]

Fair. Yes.

[A]

Just telling you from the bottom of

[D]

my heart,

[A]

I'm swallowing all that crow and I'm eating it all because I think it's the right thing to do. We don't have another army. We don't have another vehicle of resistance. I wish we did.

[C]

Did.

[A]

I've tried throughout my career to make that happen. I was unable to do so. This is the one that God has given us. So I. I want to be at work with where my father's at work. Like any good son. I want to go to work with my dad. So I'm going to work in the same field as my father. I don't understand it. Not the field that if he came to me and said, what would you do? But it's the one we got. I'm sure there's all kinds of aspects about how I do my show and the way we talk at times or the way we think at times. And probably a lot of you think, man, I can't believe God really has anointed that or blessed that. I mean, if. If I was given that platform, I would be doing it differently. You're probably right. I don't know. I do know for all of his faults, Donald Trump is getting shot at, and most of our pastors aren't. I know that. And I don't. I don't think they're shooting at him because they think he's some kind of double agent for the deep state that's here to subvert the American. Right? No.

[D]

No.

[A]

Probably not. No. So this is. We're in a war. This is the army we have. That is my only motivation. It truly is my only one. And, Ben, I'm trying to hold on so that you can. You can prove Todd was right, that your generation can do better. That's all I'm trying to do, man. I'm just trying to hold. That's it. It's my only motivation. I don't have another one. Gentlemen. I'll give you guys the final thoughts. Got about two and A half minutes. Aaron, you've been quiet for a while. Go ahead.

[C]

Yep. This is, I think, the text that I, I think I sent you. Maybe on election night or the morning after the election, you fight with the army you have. This is the army you have. And do you think George Washington was just, boy howdy, this ragtag group of revolutionaries, they just, just all tip top shape, they all know how to fight. They've all been in a dozen wars. They're doing great. We're doing great here. No, you know, what he did have, though, was commitment. Commitment to the bitter, bitter end. And for a lot of them throughout this country's history, it was the bitter end. As people who fought blood and died for this country gave the, what is it, the last full measure of devotion to this country. But that is in their way, throughout this country's 250 years. That is their own way of showing the commitment. What do you always say, Steve? It's not about being willing to die for your cause. It's about making sure the other son of a gun is willing to die for his. And so, yes, we have lost many for the cause of this country going back to George Washington's army, but it was not in the service of being willing to die. It's for the service of taking ground. And that's kind of what we have to. That's how we have to reframe our minds. You can only take so much ground as one person. You can really only take so much ground as one person or a hodgepodge of people where there's an entire other army over there trying to take hills on your behalf. Sometimes maybe not the best way, maybe you not the way that you would command that army, but that's what they're doing. So you fight with the army you have.

[A]

Todd.

[D]

Yeah, I'm worried too. I'm glad my daughters are all going to be out of school here shortly because losing means the enemy is probably going to steal my children away. So you fight, I'll fight with you. I promise.

[A]

Everybody have a great weekend. Back at it again on Monday, noon to 2 Eastern, right after Glenn Beck, right here on BlazeTV. Until then, go hard. Romans 8, 28.