The Window Is CLOSING: Act Now or Lose EVERYTHING | 6/29/26

Summary

Steve Deace Show — Episode Summary (6/29/26)

Episode Title: The Window Is CLOSING: Act Now or Lose EVERYTHING
Host: Steve Dace (with Todd Erzin & Aaron McIntyre)
Guest: Bob Vander Plaats (The Family Leader)
Podcast Network: Blaze Podcast Network
Date: June 29, 2026

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Overview

This episode of the Steve Deace Show presents a high-intensity warning about the shrinking window of opportunity for principled conservatives to push back against the progressive left and secure the future of the nation. Deace expresses deep concern over recent Supreme Court decisions, the rise of elected open communists in New York, and ongoing cultural and political trends. The message: Act with urgency—politically, culturally, and spiritually—or risk losing everything. The tone is urgent, snarky, and often sardonic, blending political analysis, social commentary, and Christian worldview.

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Key Discussion Points & Insights

1. Supreme Court Rulings and Their Implications

• Election Ballot Counting (00:01–01:11, 24:37–25:02):

  • The SCOTUS (5-4, led by Justice Barrett, with Roberts joining the liberals) allows states to count ballots after Election Day under certain guidelines, from Watson v. Republican National Committee.
  • Deace argues this decision functionally “undoes” U.S. elections by enabling endless ballot counting and undermining election integrity.
    • “Elections by one vote of the Supreme Court completely undone in America. The clock is ticking. Can you hear it?” (08:03)
  • Analogy: “That’s like...we’re going to ban all abortions except in case of the mother’s health. So you’re not banning any abortions then?” (24:37)

• Executive Power to Fire Bureaucrats:

  • SCOTUS upholds presidential authority to fire bureaucrats at will.

2. Global and National News Rapid-Fire

• Iran–US Escalation:
  • U.S. and Iran strike each other's vessels; both sides vow to de-escalate (01:20).
• Venezuela Earthquakes: 1,450 dead, 50,000 missing, international rescue effort.
• Texas Education Policy:
  • State Board of Education will require Bible reading in public and charter schools (01:46–02:25).
• Texas Democratic Convention:
  • Democratic nominee Benjamin Flores uses sarcastic group solidarity (“When they say James is a tofu-eating vegan, we’re ALL vegan... when they say James is going to hell, we’re ALL going to hell” 02:21–02:59).
  • Deace’s reaction: “We know, and we appreciate the honesty. Speaking of honesty…” (03:00)

3. Cultural Commentary & Political Trends

• Pride Parade & Trans/Palestinian Flags:
  • Reference to a “Trans Palestine Fusion Flag” at Seattle’s Pride parade (03:00), exemplifying leftist coalition-building.
• Buttigieg Family Hoax:
  • Coverage of Pete Buttigieg’s account of a false CPS call (03:31–04:17); Deace expresses skepticism.
• Minneapolis and Ohio Policy:
  • Lifting adult bathhouse bans, immigration status debates, and gubernatorial criticism.
• AOC and Growing Leftist Zeal:
  • Alexandria Ocasio-Cortez’s links to rallies calling for policing and prison abolition, and a “world without borders” (05:14–05:18).
  • Deace sees these as evidentiary of extremism on the left.
• Scott Wiener & Legacy of Progressive Policy:
  • Detailed critique of CA State Sen. Scott Wiener for supporting legislation softening penalties for sex crimes, supporting “queer” causes, yet being attacked by trans activists for not being anti-Israel enough (06:16–07:59).

4. The “Window is Closing” — Urgency for Action

• Collapse of Election Integrity:
  • Deace hammers home that Supreme Court changes to ballot counting spell the (near) end for fair elections (08:03, 27:00).
• Zealotry on the Left, Complacency on the Right:
  • Highlights willingness of the left to act with “zeal” and concerted activism (“the zeal does,” 21:50).
  • Critique of passive conservative donors compared to progressive billionaires willing to "just drop hundreds of millions…it's missional." (22:52)
• Call to Action:
  • Laments conservative/Christian apathy. “We’re way too compliant. Just give me a talking point, a meme to share, a troll.” (22:18)
  • “You should prepare...these windows don’t stay open forever.” (11:07)

5. Red State Contradictions — The Case of Ohio

• J.D. Vance vs. Mike DeWine (13:17–14:32, 41:27–43:23):
  • Explores the ideological rift within the Ohio GOP: DeWine (Governor) is slammed as a “pro-life corporatist” with Democratic tendencies; Vance (now VP) represents a more populist-right base.
  • “How did the same system within a half-decade come out with J.D. Vance for Senate and Mike DeWine for governor? How’s that happen?” (40:03)
  • “Your tent cannot be big enough for J.D. Vance and Mike DeWine...it's not a tent, it has no actual stakes in the ground. When a force of nature like the demonic left comes along, it will absolutely topple that structure.” (46:20)

6. Rise of Open Communism on the Left

• Democratic Party Radicalization:
  • The hosts and guest Bob Vander Plaats warn that socialism and communism are no longer fringe but gaining mainstream wins, especially in New York (32:52–37:28).
  • “Joe McCarthy wasn’t wrong, he was just early.” (32:52)
  • “The heart of socialism is to shut up the gospel, to shut up the word of God… it's envy, it's greed, these are sins, not virtues.” (35:43, Bob Vander Plaats)

7. Historical and Spiritual Reflections

• Founding Era & Need for Virtue:
  • Deace and Erzin discuss George Washington’s understanding that republican government only works with a “critical mass” of virtuous citizens. (56:28–62:21)
  • “It isn’t necessary for all or even most to be saints… but to suppose a republican government could succeed without at least a modicum of virtue would be a pipe dream.” (58:28, Todd Erzin reading)
  • “[W]e are in revival or bust territory…” (62:21)
• Spiritual Foundation as the Only Real Solution:
  • “The solution is not political. It is spiritual.” (62:21)
  • Without revival, “liberty in America will be lost.” (62:21)

8. Audience Q&A (“Ask Me Anything” Segment, 63:53–96:18)

• Primary Election Participation:
  • Frustration at low conservative turnout in primaries: “History is won by those who show up. The Samuel Adams observation—never been the majority but the tireless minority.” (69:49)
• Tactical Voting Debate:
  • Is it crazy to vote for a Democrat to oust a RINO? Deace not opposed in principle (if strategic, local, and reversible), but in Senate races with six-year terms, “we don’t have six years to waste right now.” (64:10–68:35)
• Violence and Resistance:
  • Where is the line for justified resistance or "vigilante" action? “Revolutions are real, sometimes required, but must not become atrocities.” (84:53–89:41)
• Signs of the End Times:
  • Deace sees more prophetic “signs of the times” than ever before, but cautions against reading current events into Scripture without care. (89:41–93:19)
• Love for Neighbor:
  • “My neighbor is who I have a direct opportunity to interact with and influence. But loving neighbor follows, not precedes, loving God...” (93:34–95:14)

9. Cultural Recommendations & Promotions

• BibleForASoul.com:
  • Platform for gifting annotated Bibles, recommended by Bob Vander Plaats (30:24–32:49).
• Steve Dace’s Children’s Books:
  • Self-promotion slot for “Why Independence Day: America is Great Because God is Good,” though censored by New York Times lists (54:06–56:28).

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Notable Quotes & Moments

• “If our opponents want the branding that they are all demon spawn… let them have it.” (10:41, Steve Dace)
• “If we cannot come up with a cogent opposition… we're toast.” (46:20, Steve Dace)
• “The same problem has happened — complete infiltration by traitors and knuckle-draggers… The left has not had this problem at all.” (20:59)
• “You think they’re cursing you now? Wait until you then tell them you’ve got a hot revolution on your hands… and it won’t be ‘we old people’ doing this. It’ll be our kids and grandkids…” (27:00)
• “It should be a warning to all of us… government is your god.” (35:43, Bob Vander Plaats)
• “History is won by those who show up… It’s the tireless minority.” (69:49, Steve Dace)
• “We're way too compliant, way too placated. Just give me a talking point, a meme to share, a troll.” (22:18, Steve Dace)
• On Christian duty:
  • “We must take part in the political process to defend ourselves… but ultimately the solution is not political. It is spiritual…” (62:21, Steve Dace)
• “We are in revival or bust territory.” (62:21, Steve Dace)

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Timestamps for Important Segments

| Timestamp | Topic/Segment | |---|---| | 00:01–03:00 | Rapid-fire news roundup (Supreme Court, elections, national/international news) | | 05:00–08:03 | Reactions to new leftist causes, AOC, Scott Wiener, and intersectional left infighting | | 10:00–14:32 | Deace's opening monologue: cultural decay, conservative apathy, warning of closing "window" for action | | 24:37–25:02 | In-depth Supreme Court analysis — loss of election integrity | | 32:52–37:28 | Bob Vander Plaats on the normalization of socialism/communism in Democratic politics, risks to religious and property rights | | 41:27–46:42 | Ohio case study — the split between populist (Vance) and establishment (DeWine) factions within the GOP | | 56:28–62:21 | Founding principles, necessity of virtue, and spiritual renewal as prerequisite to political redemption | | 63:53–96:18 | "Ask Me Anything" segment — audience Q&A on strategy, resistance, and future prospects for America | | 84:53–89:41 | On violent resistance and when revolutions are justified (rededication of the temple, founding fathers) | | 89:41–93:19 | “Signs of the times” & End Times prophecy | | 93:34–95:16 | Who is “your neighbor”? (Christian obligations and boundaries) |

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Final Thoughts

Deace and his guests argue that recent court decisions, political trends, and the left’s intense activism are closing the possibility for peaceful, political correction of America's current trajectory. They call for a renewed, zealous activism on the right—grounded in virtue, faith, and action—warning that passivity ensures defeat.

Bob Vander Plaats closes with a stark warning: “If socialism takes hold in this country… government’s God… take from you to make it theirs.” (44:15–47:28)

Deace's message on the threshold of America's 250th anniversary is clear: the time for action is now, before the window closes.

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Transcript

[Steve Dace]

It's the Steve Day Show. And here's what happened while we were away. Come for Skoda State for trannies chasing a wiener. We'll begin at the supreme court where a 54 majority led by Amy Coney Barrett, the three lib justices and John Roberts ruled that states can indeed continue counting ballots after election day, provided states have guidelines and procedures for counting said mail in ballots. The case settles a dispute out of Mississippi, Watson v. Republican National Committee. Supreme Court also ruled this morning that the chief executive of the United States actually does have the power to fire bureaucrats and at will. The US Struck Iran multiple times in recent days after Iran struck multiple vessels in the Strait of Hormuz. Before announcing last night, both sides promised not to do any more booms and pew pews. This week, Vice President J.D. vance got a pointed question from Bill Maher on Iran and nuclear weapons.

But their program isn't destroyed.

[Bob Vander Plass]

The nuclear program isn't destroyed.

[Steve Dace]

I mean, I don't know. I don't know any of our objectives.

[Bob Vander Plass]

And look, I said I.

[Steve Dace]

What part is not destroyed? Well, we didn't get in there. The whole thing is we have to

[Bob Vander Plass]

get in there and see.

[Steve Dace]

Otherwise we wouldn't be doing this.

[Bob Vander Plass]

Well, let me say.

[Steve Dace]

No, we didn't, first of all.

So a nuclear program, and I'm hardly a nuclear scientist, I'm a lowly politician, but the thing that you have to destroy is their ability to enrich uranium, which has been destroyed. You have to destroy their ability.

Well, because you need functioning centrifuges that can actually spin.

We gotta get in there and we gotta get the dust.

[Bob Vander Plass]

Okay?

[Steve Dace]

And we didn't get in there, so how do we get the dust? So that's actually a separate question. So there's the highly enriched stockpile, which by the way, was allowed to accumulate over 20 years of previous administrations. That enriched stockpile is something that we want to get. But Bill, if we never get it

and the President wants it and we

are going to get it, but if we never got it, it's buried deep underground and they don't have the ability to turn it into a nuclear weapon. So the program is functionally destroyed.

At least 1,450 people have died since last week's devastating earthquakes in Venezuela. 50,000 are missing. Around a couple dozen countries have sent aid and rescue teams who to assist with search and recovery operations. The Texas State Board of Education approved a measure last week making reading parts of the Bible mandatory for students. The requirement covers 5.5 million students across all public and charter campuses. And elementary grades. We'll see it first in the 203031 school year. Also in Texas, the Democrat convention over the weekend, Texas Democrat Land Commissioner nominee Benjamin Flores came to the defense of Texas Democrat Senate nominee James Tallarico.

Next time they say that James is trans,

[Bob Vander Plass]

we're all.

[Steve Dace]

When they say James is a gay tofu eating vegan, we're all gay tofu eating vegans. And when they say James is going

[Todd Erzin]

to hell,

[Steve Dace]

We'll say we're all going to hell.

Yeah, we know and we appreciate the honesty. Speaking of honesty, in Seattle a new flag emerged at the city's Pride parade. It's a trans Palestine Fusion flag, one of the most predictable developments ever. In Dearborn, Michigan, an Islamic Ashura procession filled the streets over the weekend. Ashura is a period of rage and warning for Shia Muslims as they remember the slaying of Muhammad's grandson at the hands of, you guessed it, other Muslims. Hard to believe. Also in Michigan, Pete Buttigieg revealed that his so called husband and adopted children were the target of what he called a cruel, politically motivated hoax involving Child protective services. The former mayor of South Bend, Indiana and failed presidential candidate wrote in a Substack article posted on Friday, someone made a false report against him in an attempt to separate his family. Police apparently determined the anonymous call was false, although he said he was forced to spend the night away from his 4 year old twins. Buttigieg described the 24 hour ordeal as, quote, among the darkest hours of my life. Something about that story stinks to high heaven. In Minneapolis, Mayor Jacob Fry signed a new City Council measure repealing a ban on adult bath houses and other businesses where sodomy and other perversions take place. In Ohio, Governor Mike is dewining about the recent Supreme Court decision all but ending the temporary protected status for hundreds of thousands of Haitians and Syrians, some of whom currently reside in the Buckeye State.

[Bob Vander Plass]

It is not in the United States

[Steve Dace]

interest, certainly not in Ohio's interest to

[Bob Vander Plass]

have people who are working every single

[Steve Dace]

day who are supporting a family, who are buying houses, fixing up old houses,

[Bob Vander Plass]

starting businesses and then put deep roots in this country and really are contributing

[Steve Dace]

and yank them out. In New York, Congresswoman Alexandria Ocasio Cortez is defending some of the batcrap crazy stuff her newly minted commie comrades have said. We're talking about the trifecta of congressional races in those Democrat primaries won by Mamdani endorsed candidates. Late last week she attended a pro

Palestinian rally in Times Square the day after the Hamas attacked Israel she said

she was worried about an outsized reaction

that cost thousands of people their lives.

She has not backed away from attending that rally. She also she deleted a Twitter account

that had a number of posts that

called for the abolishment of police in prisons.

According to CNN, in 2021, this is what there's a reference to.

She posted.

A world without borders, just like a

world without prisons or police is possible

and necessary to and the only moral way forward. I genuinely believe that we have to give people the opportunity to occupy their beliefs within the gravity of becoming a duly elected member of Congress.

Learning Chinese today. Today's phrase is kamalablidigu called and said lay off the vodka. And finally some trannies chasing a wiener. Scott, I think your legislation on, on

trans issues and your legislation specifically protecting queers on

a sex offender registry is fantastic.

Like I really applaud you for that

and I think you deserve to be here for that. That is California State Senator Scott Weiner, one of the most wicked, vile and accomplished lawmakers in our country. Specifically your housing policy aligning with gimby's.

And I think your policy, and I think your policy on the genocide in Gaz, and I think your policy on the genocide in Gaza is terrible. I think you do not belong here. You do not belong here. You do not.

Here's a quick profile of the practical effects of legislation he's introduced or supported. Legislation removing mandatory sex offender registry inclusion for adults who statutorily raped 14 to 17 year olds as long as the age gap is within 10 years. Legislation forcing male rapists and murderers into women's prisons. Legislation softening the penalty for knowingly spreading aids. And legislation forcing judges to disregard out of state custody orders when one parent won't affirm a child's quote unquote gender identity. And legislation removing the legal authority police use to investigate child street prostitution. All that are the practical effects of legislation that Scott Wiener has either authored or supported.

How could you do this to San Francisco? How could someone like you do this to San Francisco?

[Bob Vander Plass]

Francisco?

[Steve Dace]

Scott, Say something.

Redeem yourself. Do something.

You and your dying ass.

I want, I want to like the person who had such good legislation on trans rights.

You're a piece of,

Scott. I want to support someone who's so positive on trans rights. But you're a piece of on Gaza. How could you do that?

So why did a mob of trainees in San Francisco verbally and physically confront Scott Weiner over the weekend?

You stopped being queer the moment you started supporting Israel.

He's a Jew. And he doesn't hate Israel enough. And that's what happened while we were away.

That's an ET Phone ho moment right there. The cult he helped create turns on him. If our opponents really want that branding, I say we let them have it. I detest Mike DeWine as much as any politician in America, but he does speak to the generational failure of the right. I'll get to that as well. And elections by one vote of the Supreme Court completely undone in America. The clock is ticking. Can you hear it more next year on the Steve Day show.

[Todd Erzin]

All right.

[Steve Dace]

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[Todd Erzin]

Yeah, I mean, it's a take, that's for sure. Of course, I'm of two minds. Of those things. I go. One half of me goes the way you just said, and the other half is just. That's a level. They're talking to each other. Just wait till they get their hands on us and our children.

[Steve Dace]

Well, both of those things are true. Yes, both of those things are true. In the natural, you should prepare yourself. Which we're gonna. This ties into the Supreme Court decision, by the way. You. You should be preparing yourself about the possibility you may have to do the kinds of things that led to the 250th birthday of this country ever happening in year one in the first place. So in the natural, you should be getting ready for that. In the supernatural, I mean, you should also be simultaneously praying for these people because what awaits them for their obstinance and their. And their ingratedness and their defiance of the redemption and mercy of God is a far more, pun intended, hellish fate than losing any form of cultural war or even hot war to the likes of us. What, what awaits their souls for all of eternity is way worse than losing control of this landmass.

Yes. And that's what I was talking about on Friday. With the fusion of Islamism and communism into a new religion, there are two ideologies fused together into a new religion. And that's what we're seeing across the country. But I think what you're talking about is that land commissioner. I'm not super worried about that. That's in Texas. Oh, that was in Texas where Democrats say that stuff out loud.

Yeah.

To a room, probably an arena, or at least a large ballroom full of clapping seals. In Texas. In Texas, there's a really popular song right now, Choosing Texas. Hmm. I think the devil is Chosen Texas right now. At least it's trying to anyway, and it has for a long time. But just openly saying yeah, we're all going to hell. Clap, clap, clap. The writing's on the wall.

[Todd Erzin]

We've been boiling in this pot for a while. I just can only imagine, I was thinking what would, if Steve could have seen this montage in his second year working at who. And this is the future, you know, the reaction for everybody, the whole audience. Your average normie would have been so much different. Like, is this the end? But here we are living, we got all our bread and circuses and we're just like, I'm, I'm sure we'll plow through this.

[Steve Dace]

Well, somehow the state of Ohio in the last half a decade has managed to produce Mike DeWine and J.D. vance at the exact same time. I, I, I, I understand. Like, if you looked at the behavior of our state legislature in Iowa, it's way more based, it's way redder than any member of our congressional delegation is. Every member of our congressional delegation is somewhere to the left of, of, of the state as a whole. Fair. They might be good quality people, high character people like a Charles Grassley, but he's definitely these days to the left of where our bases.

[Todd Erzin]

Yes.

[Steve Dace]

And then you get to Ashley Hinson would be even further to the left of where our base is. Right. Joni, her, Joni Ernst. The job she's running for, Ashley as would be even more to the left of.

[Todd Erzin]

Way more.

[Steve Dace]

She'd probably be the most to the left of where the base is. I mean, she's basically, you know, I mean, her and Lindsey Graham have a lot in common, including, they both really like guys. So I mean, our congressional. But, but you can see the line of demarcation there. Right. We're a small state, we're not a major media market state. And so where we could have, well, as you would call it in your tradition, subsidiarity, where we could have that. Right. Where we had the most local control, the most opportunity to move the dial, move the fulcrum. We have done so considerably in our state. Right?

[Todd Erzin]

Yes.

[Steve Dace]

Then you get to, you get to offices that even federal offices, a Senate seat even in the, in a small state like Iowa is still going to cost 75 to $100 million from the moment you launch until the day that the, well, weeks the votes are counted based on what the Supreme Court just did, you're probably still here spending 7,500 million dollars, all the outside groups and everything else to win that seat. That's probably what it will cost. Right. Okay. And so trying to penetrate that veil, much more difficult because it's Way more expensive. Right. You know, and so we can, we can dominate at a grassroots level in terms of volume that people are with us. But up here at the high level, the money folks can still buy a lot of these seats. And so you see a clear line of demarcation in a red state like Iowa between how red the federal office holders are and then how read everybody else is. You see what I'm, what I'm trying to say? All right. But when you have situations in Ohio where in a. Statewide. In statewide elections. Statewide elections. And this is a state with several major media markets. Columbus, major media market. Cleveland, major media market. Cincinnati, major media market. Heck, Akron is a top 100 market. And you can produce within the same party the level of variance that gives us J.D. vance and Mike DeWine. Something's fundamentally broken there in your, in your party structure. If that can happen. Is that fair? Yeah, it doesn't make any sense. Like it makes sense that one like a JD Vance could get elected like into the state legislature, but not raise the money to win statewide because of the likes of the Mike DeWine run the state party. That's what we have in Iowa. Right. At the meta level. Right. But how does Vance get elected and Mike DeWine at the same time? How does that happen to statewide offices? Senator and governor? How is that the top of your ticket in the same state? How in the same party? How's that even remotely possible? Blows my mind in this era. And in case you guys had forgotten about DeWine during COVID I detest Mike DeWine as much as any politician in America. I mean, if I'd much rather just get stabbed in the face by Democrats than stabbed in the back over and over again by the likes of DeWine. If Mike DeWine was on fire on the side of the road and I really had to pee and the sign said rest area the next 150 miles. I'm gonna keep driving and take my chances. Good luck to you, Mike. Hope those Haitians have got to know how to hook up the fire hydrant. I mean, that guy is human debris. An absolute traitor to his party, to his constituents maybe. I guess I don't know much about the Ohio Republican Party. Somebody thought he was a great idea. He's the governor, but he's just a betrayal to every. To. To the entire moment that we're in right now. He even looks and sounds lispy like the, the guy that betrays you. Even sounds like it. He sounds like he's going to leave you a voicemail in office space. Too. Yeah, we're going to have to take some more Haitian refugees. I'm not sure what Haiti Mike's been to. I've been there. Not a lot of businesses, not a lot of thrifty folks. It's a culture come undone. Like we're about, like we're threatened with being where you're way more likely to see a 19 year old young man standing on the side of the road doing lung darts and taking shots than working and doing anything constructive. And that's the same thing of a 29 and a 39 year old man where whole villages have no men because they all fled and left the women and abandoned their women and children. That culture has nothing to offer us. Nothing. But I guess Mike DeWine did admit that one of the reasons we have a housing shortage and problem in America is too many foreigners are getting homes. Because he did mention that they're buying homes. Right. Wonder where Haitians are getting money to buy homes, do you think? Where might that be? Poorest country in our hemisphere. Poorest country in our hemisphere. How have they managed to be buying homes in the state of Ohio on such short notice? Things that make you go. Dewine is symptomatic of a generational failure that we have had on the right. And this has happened whether we were the post Reagan allegedly ideologically based party. In fact we got DeWine from that era. The, the, the post Reagan ideologically based party that some of you continue to lecture me about. As Aaron likes to point out, who can't let the, the spring, the, the summer of 2023 go. Well, we, we, we, we used to be this really conservative. No, we weren't. We were never this, I've been doing this for 20 years. I've done a variation of this show more times than I can count. Regardless of what iteration the Republican Party was. You're a fool or you're lying to yourself or you're just lying than gaslighting the rest of us. I don't know you, but I'm. I do know enough of you that it's one of those three or a combination thereof. So we were an allegedly ideologically based party and that's how we ended up with getting absolute traitors like John bolton and Mike DeWine in the last decade under Trump. We've been allegedly a loyalty based party and that's how we got Joe Kent and Marjorie Taylor Greens and Candace Owens is. And the list just goes on a bunch of people no one ever heard of until they found a corner of a nipple to on the on the. On. On. On Trump's carcass to suckle on and somehow elevated themselves way beyond the levels of their, their competence, especially integrity. Only then just turn around and just. Absolutely. Joe Ken has had four different positions on Iran like in the last year and a half. Explain that. Naturally you cannot remember when I predicted earlier this year Marjorie Taylor Greene was going to end up on the View, and then it happened a week and a half later. Remember this?

[Todd Erzin]

Yes.

[Steve Dace]

Yeah. So whether we were allegedly an ideologically based party or allegedly a loyalty based party, the same problem has happened. Complete infiltration by traitors and knuckle draggers. Whether the names are Bolton, DeWine or Crean and Kent. The left has not had this problem at all, let alone for decades now as we have. So we have to ask ourselves why this is. And there's two reasons why that I can come up with. Maybe there's more, but here's the two, the best that I have. Number one, their base is active and engaged. Now. I don't ever want us to behave like what you saw happen in that video at the Rainbow Jihad rally. That's not godly, that's not Christlike. That doesn't represent who we are whatsoever in terms of the behavior. But you know what? The zeal does? The zeal does, the zeal does. Now, in the past, the way our forefathers in the faith used it is they would risk their own lives to start things in the Roman Empire called life watches. And they'd hang out in the ditches where the prostitutes and the wealthy and the poor didn't matter. Their socioeconomic status dropped off the babies that they didn't want to die in ditches or be eaten by animals. And they'd risk their own lives to wait, take those children and send them off to be adopted within the church. That's how orphanages began, actually. So the zeal was there, the behavior was better. We definitely need more of that dude's zeal. We're way too compliant, way too placated. Just give me a talking point, a meme to share a troll. Funny.

[Todd Erzin]

Haha.

[Steve Dace]

And then our donor class, Holy cow. Or on McIntyre said something today. I'm like, let him preach. He said every, every conservative billionaire is going to make you account for every expenditure of 100k or more. Lefty billionaires are just out there dropping hundreds of millions of dollars with no hope of return on investment because they see it's missional. That. And I'm just going to tell you, Auron has grown in his show and Stature a lot in the last few years. I've been around here longer. I'm applying at a level above him. He's more right than he even understands because I've talked to several kinds of people that he is hoping to one day. He's exactly correct. His instincts on this are exactly right. What is the point of so and so's got big pockets and so and so's got all kinds of money and so and so's got all kinds of this and they're aligned with you. If you've never actually seen the evidence of them investing any of it, what's. What's the. What's the point of it? Is there a point of it?

[Todd Erzin]

No.

[Steve Dace]

No. Meanwhile, you got Jeff Bezos's chick that he, that he kicked at the curb dropping $260 million in donating to causes of hell. So this brings us to what happened at the Supreme Court today. The Supreme Court essentially undid American elections today, saying that you can have mail in ballots provided you can. Provided, you mean. Well, is that. I mean, provided you. You mean. Well, that's like. We're going to ban all abortions except in case of the mother's health. So you're not banning any abortions then? Because anybody who's willing to fill out a form, anybody who's willing to murder a kid who's filling out the form, the very doctor is willing to commit the murder, Right?

[Todd Erzin]

Sure.

[Steve Dace]

So if you're willing to commit murder lying on a form, exaggerating on a form kind of seems casual. You've strolled past that sin a long time ago. Right?

[Todd Erzin]

Right.

[Steve Dace]

Okay.

[Todd Erzin]

Your idea about that isn't changed by seeing Scott Weiner's crowd there. And you don't think their hearts.

[Steve Dace]

No, no. And I. And I. And I kind of think if you' an election month and election week, your idea of operating in good faith probably isn't the same as my own or anybody else's. Within the sound of my voice, one vote. Elections just undone in America. Not an exaggeration at all. I've been telling you for the last few years, the. The windows closing where we can act peaceably but aggressively. Peaceably but aggressively. These windows don't stay open forever. The event we're going to all celebrate a 250th anniversary of next week testifies to this. These windows don't stay open forever. In fact, they've rarely been as open as ours has been. Maybe never have been in the history of our species. But the window will not stay open forever. When you match the zeal and the behavior of Scott Wiener and his crowd with Take as long, take as many times, take as many days as you need. Take all the time as you need to count the votes. Make them up. Whatever you do you yolo. What do you think's gonna happen when you match that zeal and behavior with that lack of oversight? Well, what's been happening, but way worse. Way worse. That window's a lot close. That window's a lot more closed than it was 24 hours ago. And hell, tomorrow, by the time they get done telling of a border, that window might be about right here. So take advantage of it while you can. Because for those of us who are 40, 50, 60, 70, we're not going to be the ones doing the new Lexington and Concord if we don't take advantage of it. It's our children and grandchildren will sentence to that because we didn't do our job. We've got a moment right now for a little zeal. A little zeal? Certainly a lot more than we. A little more than we've currently shown under control, of course. Christ. Like, of course, but zeal nevertheless. Takes a lot of zeal to say you're a whitewashed tomb. You're a brood of vipers. You're a den of harlots. Depart from me, I never knew. You tear down this temple and re and I'll rebuild it in three days. Takes a lot of zeal to do things and say things like that. Not a lot of passivity. So maybe that window was here 24 hours ago. It's about right here now. And 24 hours from now, it's going to be down here. You won't have elections and you won't have a border. So what are we going to do, Hezekiah? This thing. Hey. This won't go down in my lifetime. Right. Okay, cool. Future generations have to deal with that. Not my problem then. Don't you dare do that. These problems happened on our generational watch. Our job is to confront and correct them. And we still have windows to do so aggressively but peaceably. That will not stay open much longer if we do not take advantage of them. And then your children and grandchildren. You think they're cursing you now? Wait until you then tell them. You've got a hot revolution on your hands. You're the new UK. But in this case, we own 300 million guns. Because it won't be we old people doing this. It'll be our kids and grandkids. We'll ask them to do it. Shame on us. If we do so. Gentlemen, your thoughts?

[Todd Erzin]

I wish you were manning the Iowa booth at the Great American 250th Fair, because that is worthy of standing in the center of our nation's capital and having everybody hear it far and wide. There's a great story back in the days of the founding fathers when a speech was given and somebody came late but had heard what, how the quality of the oratory was. And so everybody agreed that the person who gave it, I can't remember it, was one of the great founding fathers, should give it again. Listen to that again because Steve is giving you an 11th hour message that you must heed.

[Steve Dace]

Those who have ears to hear, let them hear. And don't just hear. As we've emphasized on Theology Thursday now, a couple of weeks running and increasingly so after the gospel, it's the hearings of the sittings, the sittings of the apostles, the ruminations of the apostles. No, the Acts hearing produces action and the hour is late. I can't imagine even doing this montage. That was eight minutes. Can't imagine even doing that five years ago.

Nope.

Not even during COVID I couldn't imagine doing a montage like that on a Monday, a Monday

morning.

[Bob Vander Plass]

The steve.

[Steve Dace]

All right, back here on the Steve Day show alongside Todd Erzin and Aaron McIntyre. And we are joined now by our good friend Bob Vander Plass of the Family Leader. Good to see you, brother. How are you?

[Bob Vander Plass]

I'm doing really good. And happy 4th of July early to you guys. Let's freedom ring.

[Steve Dace]

So you got, you brought some gifts to us today.

[Bob Vander Plass]

I did.

[Steve Dace]

It's called Bible for a Soul. And ooh, I see they signed it. But it's hard to see on the dark box what they said. But this is a really cool concept you were telling me about. So share this with our audience.

[Bob Vander Plass]

I'll do it real quick. First of all, our Dean and Lori Val camp, huge fans of your show, by the way. Thank you, guys. They put up with me on Mondays, but they're huge fans of your show. But they have started a ministry called Bible for a Soul. You can go to BibleForASoul.com and the way I understand it, you request a Bible, they'll send you one for free and then you get to read through the Bible for a year. So a year through the Bible, but with somebody in mind. And so for Steve, it could be like his daughter Anna or Zoe or for his son Noah. For Todd, same way, you know, Tessa's getting married, Ainsley starting a career. Read through it For a year. But in the margins, take notes about what did that word of God speak to you as it relates to them? So they've got the Bible, they've got all the notes, and after a year, then you gift it to that child.

[Steve Dace]

This is a great idea.

[Bob Vander Plass]

To that friend, to that neighbor. It's all free. And what's interesting, I asked our Dean and Laurie Veldkamp, because they're Dutch, 100% Dutch, just like me. Like, who's paying for this? We got to get down to the money. And right now, they are underwriting this themselves. And so praise God for people like our Dean and Lori Valkyrie.

[Steve Dace]

And listen, these are the boxes. Nice. This is not just some thing thrown together here. I mean, there's craftsmanship involved.

[Bob Vander Plass]

It's beautiful. This was really laid on Lori's heart. They've done this, and they've been doing this for years. And they thought, you know what? We should start a ministry of this because it means so much to people who actually get it. What a cool, cool, cool.

[Steve Dace]

It's a great idea.

[Bob Vander Plass]

We're gonna get her.

[Steve Dace]

It's one of those ideas. You're wondering, why has nobody done this before?

[Bob Vander Plass]

Exactly.

[Steve Dace]

It's so obvious. Yeah. So what are the names? Give them a plug.

[Bob Vander Plass]

Dean, A, R, D, E, A. And our Dean Valkamp and his wife Lori.

[Steve Dace]

Is there a website if people want to do these?

[Bob Vander Plass]

If they go to bible fourasoul.com, i believe it goes right there.

[Steve Dace]

I'm going to warn you guys, though. We did this for my buddy Chris Danielson's Bible sidekick book, what, like a week and a half ago? All right? And they got 200 orders in a day. All right? So I'm gonna warn you guys, all right?

[Bob Vander Plass]

You may just need to start fundraising.

[Steve Dace]

Hunker down. Hunker down. Hook her down. Bear down. Bear down. All right. BibleForASoul.com is the website.

[Bob Vander Plass]

It is.

[Steve Dace]

It's a great idea. It's a. It's a tremendous idea.

I love it.

So, all right. So we were just talking about what the Supreme Court did to elections in America about two hours ago, effectively undoing them, saying, as long as you mean, well, you can just, you know, keep the elections going as long as you need to keep them going. I mean, as long as you. As. As long as we're all, of course, you know, one big happy family here, and we're following accepted rules and procedures and you mean, well, just go ahead and, you know, as the great prophet De La Soul once said, do what you like, right, okay. So when you contrast this with what happened in the elections in New York City last week, I know that you're very concerned about this. We have open avowed communists winning elections. We were talking on the show last week that Joe McCarthy wasn't wrong. He was just early. Okay, so you wanted to address this because you think that there's some things about this that people want to make sure that they understand. So the floor is yours.

[Bob Vander Plass]

Well, first of all, let's go back to what the Supreme Court did a couple hours ago. Guys, there's a dead mucky on the line. You take a look at all of the controversies surrounding elections and a lot of it has to do with people who are just not trusting them anymore. And does with the mail in voting, it does that. You don't require voter id. You don't have to be a citizen. It's taken us days upon days to determine the fate of an election. It's ridiculous in today's age. If you want to keep this thing that we call Republic, that we're going to celebrate 250 years of coming up here on Saturday, my goodness. Make sure that our elections are filled with the highest bar of integrity. This is a bipartisan issue. You can't get more red, white and blue than this. It's an American issue to act like, hey, you guys, it still should be run by the states. I totally believe that. Do not believe the federal government should run it, but doggone it, you got to make sure that there's integrity in elections or we're going to have a real mess on our hands. And we do have a mess on our hands as well. Steve, when it came down to the New York elections, a couple of things. One is I watched Speaker Johnson's press conference afterwards and I thought it was compelling, intriguing, when he said, listen, I was watching the victory parties of seeing the said socialists or communists win elections. And I was watching their victory parties and. And when the name Hakeem Jeffries would get mentioned. And even though Speaker Mike Johnson and Hakeem Jeffries probably don't disagree on much,

[Steve Dace]

but to say, I would like to know, he got flat out. You know what, that's a question I think that should be asked. Yes, ask. Just ask a simple question. What do you. Hakeem Jeffries may be the next speaker of the House.

[Bob Vander Plass]

Right.

[Steve Dace]

Okay. What do you disagree with these communists on? What would just ask an open ended question. What would it be? What would you disagree on?

[Todd Erzin]

But.

[Bob Vander Plass]

So they're booing him because he's not Far left enough. You and I, Todd and Aaron, we all know, a lot of your listeners know that the heart of socialism is to shut up the gospel, to shut up the word of God. It's no longer, you know, you get your rights from your creator like the Declaration of Independence. It's now, listen, government is your God. We take from you and we redistribute on our terms. And so these things that they're clinging onto, I mean, it's envy, it's greed, these are sins, these are not virtues. And I think there's been a couple of really good op EDS written on these things about. This should be a warning to all of us. For us here in Iowa, we have a lot of our friends and neighbors who own land. They own farmland. My wife and her family, they own farmland. They work exceptionally hard. Pretty soon, listen, that's not your land. That's our land plan. We're going to common share this thing because that worked out really well.

[Steve Dace]

They've already been saying about our kids for the last 20 years, those are our children.

[Todd Erzin]

Yeah.

[Bob Vander Plass]

And so the same thing goes, you know, if it's a New York housing, you guys don't get to be in that big house, you don't get to drive that big car. You don't get to do whatever. We're going to try to equalize everything because for those of us who either choose not to work or choose not to do anything, we still want what is yours as well. This is a shot across the bow to all America and what we stand for. Especially when you come up on this 250th anniversary. And I think people need to wake up and take note of what's taking place. Shut up. The word of God. God is no longer God. Government is God. But two is, I'm going to take what is rightfully yours. You earned it. And I'm going to redistribute it on my terms, not your terms.

[Steve Dace]

Totally agree with every single word that you just said, 100%. So it's a good thing then that we have Republican governors like Mike DeWine who are. Who of course realize that the solution to everything you just said is we need more Haitian migrants.

[Bob Vander Plass]

Haitian migrants. Mail in. Voting no voter ID. I gotta tell you, what DeWine did by vetoing that piece of legislation the other day. He basically robbed probably Vivek Ramaswamy from the government.

[Steve Dace]

He may have done that.

[Bob Vander Plass]

That governorship is exceptionally close. Vivek and I just visited a couple weeks ago in his home and talking about how this race has really tightened up because of the different things at stake. And now DeWine does that. The succession plan for DeWine is not Vivek Ramaswamy. That was a clear message sent. He's not for Vivek.

[Steve Dace]

I, I am. You know, I'd love to get your take on this because we were talking about this before you came in. So here in Iowa, because Ohio and Iowa are on similar trajectory. States that are redder right now than they have been in recent.

[Bob Vander Plass]

We're Trump states.

[Steve Dace]

States that are both and Trump that two states. There are some states like Georgia that Trump has made bluer.

[Bob Vander Plass]

Yeah.

[Todd Erzin]

Okay.

[Steve Dace]

But there are certain states that Trump has made redder. Ohio and Iowa would be two of them.

[Bob Vander Plass]

Right.

[Steve Dace]

Okay. Pennsylvania would be another one. All right, so there have been some trade offs here. Right. Ok. In Iowa, you and I have lamented and I'm more vocal about it publicly than you are, but you'll, you'll lament it privately because you know more of those people than I do. So I don't care what they think of me.

[Bob Vander Plass]

Sure.

[Steve Dace]

But, but if we are, if we're being honest, every single, every, every single member of our congressional delegation is somewhere to the left of where things are on the ground in Iowa, without question, a little bit left. Some like Joni earn star way more left and it's all Republican. But they would all be less based than where things are at on the ground. And it kind of makes sense. Right. We don't have a lot of huge money, you know, to, to even in Iowa from the start of a campaign to winning it. When you count in outside groups and everything else, a governor's race is going to cost like $75 million to win. Okay.

[Bob Vander Plass]

I think that's going to go north.

[Steve Dace]

But yes, a governor's race is going to cost $50 million to win. Okay. When you count all the outside money and everything else that comes in. Right. Okay. So we can, our grassroots can overwhelm at the state legislative level and a lot of state levels. Right. But when you get up to that higher meta level, these federal offices and when the national outside groups come in and most of them are certainly more corporatized than our base would be, it would make sense then why there's a demarcation between how red we are at the state level and compared to on the federal level, even though we're all in the same party.

Right.

With me so far. Okay, let's talk about Ohio. How is it possible that the two Republicans at the top of the ballot in Ohio. Right. Now, simultaneously are Mike DeWine and J.D. vance as the former senator there, now the Vice president. How, how, how does that happen? How do, how do, how do these two people who represent nothing. Mike DeWine has way more in common with Democrats than he does JD without question. Take out, Take the abortion. He's been, I'll give him. He's been good, pretty good on the abortion issue. Take that. He's essentially Mike. Mike DeWine is a pro life statist, okay? That's essentially what he is. He's a pro life court, pro life corporatist. If you took the life issue off the table, Mike DeWine would have more in common with the Democratic Party in Ohio on everything else compared to JD Vance. How does that happen there? How does that happen there? Especially because you also have. Columbus is a major media market. Cincinnati is, Cleveland is. Akron is about the same size media market that Des Moines is. Okay? So you would think you would, you, you would think it would also be even more difficult to have that kind of level of variance with higher, you know, with more available media markets that you have to have the money to raise only a certain kind of people, amount of people could raise the amount of money to compete in all those major markets in Ohio simultaneously. Right. So how did the same system within a half decade come out with J.D. vance for Senate and Mike DeWine for governor? How's that happen?

[Bob Vander Plass]

That's a great question. My only thing could be is that J. I mean, DeWine has had a long history in Ohio politics. Matter of fact, he was.

[Steve Dace]

So the voters are lazy is what you're trying to say.

[Bob Vander Plass]

When Ohio was more blue than red.

[Steve Dace]

Yeah.

[Bob Vander Plass]

When we were losing Ohio, DeWine was succeeding. And the reason he was succeeding because he was way more blue than red. So Therefore he succeeded. J.D. vance came in basically on Trump's coattails. That's when J.D. came in. Mike DeWine has never been for Trump. I don't think he's ever been for a lot of the conservative values, as you just pointed out, Steve, that you and I are. That is the only way that I can see you have that kind of a juxtaposition in, in Ohio between a J.D. vance and a Mike DeWine. But it's a problem for guys who want to succeed like Vivek Ramaswamy.

[Steve Dace]

Right.

[Bob Vander Plass]

And that U.S. senate race is going to be a tough race there as well with Sherrod Brown, and I forget the Republican candidate that replaced J.D. vance.

[Steve Dace]

It's very clear. Republicans like Mike DeWine and I would argue virtually every federal office Holder, in my own state, even I, even those I like more than others on a personal level or respect or admire on a personal level, just truly don't understand the tenuousness of the moment that you just articulated. Like, if what you're saying is accurate, and I don't know how much you had a chance to hear what I had to say before you came in, but if you and I are anywhere close to accurate and what we just told this audience, then, you know, I would have said 24 hours ago, the window to peaceably but aggressively change course. Correct. Where we are in America so we don't have to repeat the events that we're celebrating a 250th birthday of. Right. That that window was maybe about right here, and it's closed quite a bit in the last decade. Okay. I would argue after what the Supreme Court did to elections today, it's now about right here.

[Bob Vander Plass]

Yeah.

[Steve Dace]

And after what they're likely going to do to our border tomorrow, it's going to be, like, right here. Right. It's vitally important we elect people, and that means no more lazy primary voters. That mean we can't. We got to do something other than just sit around and wait for Donald Trump to endorse and tell us what to do. Right.

[Todd Erzin]

So.

[Steve Dace]

Because he's not going to be here forever either. He just turned 80. So we, we, we're gonna have to get, like, way more aggressive here.

[Bob Vander Plass]

Yeah.

[Steve Dace]

Way more zealous here. Otherwise, our kids and grandkids, on top of all the debt we're about to pass on to them, we're also going to say, hey, you guys are going to have to fight another. You guys have to fight another Bunker Hill. And you guys are gonna have to, you know, do the things previous generations we just read about in history books had to do so that we could squander your freedoms in the first place. You guys are gonna have to do that all over again.

[Bob Vander Plass]

To me, Steve, there's a threat and there's an opportunity. The threat we've already discussed. Listen, if socialism takes hold in this country, I'm telling you what, guys, you're going to have a way different America. Government's God. They redistribute. And so Bernie Sanders was way ahead of the curve. We thought Bernie Sanders was just a nut case back in 2008 running for president. He was almost prophetic right now about capture the moment. The opportunity is we are giving them fuel for these elections in November. Meaning we talked about this on this show. You know, people can't buy homes today, you have to make America affordable. If you can make America affordable, you take away that oxygen from that fire of socialism when also in America is not affordable for Tesla and for Ainslie and for Anna and for whoever else. The kids rising up going, I can't buy a home. I hardly afford the car. I can't afford the gas in the car. And then when I get to the market where the car took me, I can't afford the market. Now you got a problem that fuels socialism. You need to make sure you have the economic principles. The other part, when it comes to elections, we're very successful in primaries. Let me tell you. Look at this last primary in Iowa where you stopped an incumbent congressman from becoming the gubernatorial nominee. Well, now you make sure we don't lose our way in the general and make sure they understand who brought you to the dance and make sure that we keep these principles rock solid here. So the socialism, just like Trump captured on a lot of the populism narrative back in 2016, he captured that momentum, led him to the presidency. They're hoping that's the same thing for socialism as well. Right now, we need to get the economic principles back in play to where people can afford a home, they can afford the gas, they afford the market. Marketplace.

[Steve Dace]

Well, I've only got two minutes left, but again, I go back to how do you have a Vance and DeWine out of the same state in the same party at the same time? Because DeWine's concern is that there's not, you know, we need homes for Haitian migrants.

[Bob Vander Plass]

Yeah.

[Steve Dace]

And J.D. vance's concern is we don't have affordable homes for actually people born in America to have.

[Bob Vander Plass]

If.

[Steve Dace]

If we cannot come up with a cogent opposition to what you just described, we're toast. There's not room. Your tent cannot be big enough for J.D. vance and Mike DeWine if they are. It's not a tent. I don't know what it is, but it has no actual stakes in the ground. And when a force of nature like the demonic left comes along, it will absolutely topple that structure.

[Bob Vander Plass]

The good news is the Mitt Romney's of the day, the Mike Dewines of today, they're leaving the stage and there's not really room for them all the party. Randy Feenstra, the governor nominee who tried to become the governor nominee for state of Iowa, he tried to run a Mitt Romney playbook, a Governor DeWine playbook, and the voters in Iowa rejected him. Even with a Trump endorsement, there's becoming way more and more of a stage of the JD Vances in this. In this realm. And that's what we need to cheer on. But I gotta tell you, if you're not reading the tea leaves, you should be and should have us all on high alert about what took place in New York and what their final endgame is. And that is really to take from you to make it theirs. And it becomes a government is God and there is no other God.

[Steve Dace]

Well said, brother. Thank you.

[Bob Vander Plass]

Thank you.

[Steve Dace]

One constant right here, it's Bible foursoul.com. that's the website.

[Bob Vander Plass]

Bible foursoul.com.

[Todd Erzin]

all right?

[Steve Dace]

Make those people rise up and curse me for the amount of traffic that's going their way. All right? Bible foursoul.com. thank you, Bob.

[Bob Vander Plass]

Thank you.

[Steve Dace]

All right, we'll come back. It'll be your turn to ask me anything. Next.

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And greetings back with hour two. I'm Steve Dase. He's Todd Erzin. He's Aaron McIntyre. I've kind of decided, you know, once a year, I do a sports jersey week. Once a year, I do superhero T shirt week, which I just created simply to have excuses to wear my favorite jerseys and superhero T shirts. Like how I did that.

[Todd Erzin]

Well, yeah, Nobody else created it. That's.

[Steve Dace]

Yeah, I just made it all up to give myself an excuse. I looked at the temps this week here in the Midwest. I was down south over the weekend at undisclosed locations, seeing if we could make dreams come true for a second time. I'll just say that for now, I brought that heat with me, bro. Okay.

[Todd Erzin]

Summer's here.

[Steve Dace]

Yeah, it is here. And so I got up this morning, I decided, you know what? It's going to be Americana week. Americana. It's 250th.

[Todd Erzin]

Yes.

[Steve Dace]

It's hotter than a witch's mammary gland out there. And right now, you know, so the kind of heat, too, where you just feel like after you go out to get the mail, you gotta take a shower. It's that kind of heat where the air is that thick. Right. You know, so I've declared it now, and we'll Only do this once because we're only gonna turn 251 time. But I've declared it Americana shirt week. Americana T shirt week. So I'm wearing the Jimmy Chitwood Hickory High jersey today.

[Todd Erzin]

There's not much of your wardrobe I'm jealous of.

[Steve Dace]

This would be one thing.

[Todd Erzin]

I want it.

[Steve Dace]

Yes, you can. I wish I could tell you I made the whole thing up. I just went and bought it at one of my favorite x account store, Super 70 Sports. I love that account.

[Todd Erzin]

Oh really? That's the one.

[Steve Dace]

Yeah. Yeah, he has these there.

[Todd Erzin]

That is fantastic.

[Steve Dace]

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[Todd Erzin]

Then instead, you know that scene in Stripes where John Candy is teaching these naive rubes how to play poker? So see, if we were in the States, a flush would beat a three of a, would be a beat a pair. But since we're here, a pair beats a flush. I'm sorry, that's just how it is. Yes, I think that's basically how it works with you and the New York.

[Steve Dace]

That's kind of how it may work with me and a few outlets, apparently. So thank you guys for another New York Times bestseller that will never happen. All right, But. But you know what? I'm satisfied that I know. I know that they know and they know that I know. All right, here's a preview.

Every Fourth of July, we light up the sky. We wave our flags, we celebrate. But if your kids asked you why, could you tell them the real story? It's a story that starts 3,000 years before 1776. A story most people have never heard told this way. A Miracle in the desert, A miracle on Christmas night. Commandments carved in stone, a constitution written on paper. What's the connection? This 4th of July, give your family the story they've never been told, the one that explains everything.

And many of you have. We are almost sold out, out of stock. We only have a couple thousand copies of why Independence Day left. If you want to make sure you get yours before the Independence Day holiday, get it [e-mail] and go ahead and shake your fist at the New York Times once more. All right? And don't forget, if you got your copy and you loved it, please leave us a five star review at Amazon that does help us. Because if the New York Times isn't going to give us a bestseller, then we got to make sure Amazon does. All right? And we have a chance now for six consecutive weeks. I'm beginning to wonder though, how, how long can a book be out and still have it be a new release? It's the entire thing a scam. All right, so on one end I'm getting scammed by the New York Times. On the other hand, Amazon scam may be helping me. I, I, maybe they cancel each other out because there's a good chance that we're going to spend six weeks in a row now as the number one best selling new release Christian children's book in the country. I know. I kind of feel like if you've been out for six weeks, you're not a new release. Maybe, but I guess I'll take it if they're going to give it to me, right?

[Todd Erzin]

Let's find out.

[Steve Dace]

All right, let's find out. So get your copy today. And if you got yours and you love it, I love when you guys send me pictures with your kids and grandkids reading the book. I love that stuff. All right, that's, that's catnip to me. All right, as, as papa, I love that stuff. So please leave us a five star review. If you got your copy and you love it, get it [e-mail] and shake your fist at the New York Times once more for just 18.99. And as to help us count down now to Independence Day, Todd, you've got, I believe this is now number six, day six of the top providential moments in the Making of America.

[Todd Erzin]

Well, I love the providence of this show as well the Making of America because what I had picked out is the perfect follow up to the concern that you and Bob showed. Because, Steve, you've often mentioned when it comes down to the number one greatest president in history. You always say it's George Washington because if he failed at it, there's no more. There's no more. Well, here's how George Washington understood providence in his own life, how it related he kept him bound to the people and how he in turn felt that the people would then be bound to their country. George Washington grasped the interdependence of the republican experiment upon the sound habits of its citizens. For this reason alone at full risk to his own reputation, he could not refuse to come out of retirement to guide the first generation of citizens of the new republic through its first foundational years. His principle was this. A nation, like a child, forms its character around its earliest transactions. That was the Steve has always told you. Therefore, Washington, determined to lead the nation at large through the ways in which a citizen is citizenry called to self government must comport itself. The people themselves must become an example to the world of reflection and deliberate choice and the enabling and supportive virtues on which these capacities depend. This distinct concept of natural rights embodied a national moral project that can be expressed through the two sided meaning of self government. A republican experiment is an experiment in public self government through public institutions on the part of the whole people. At the same time, such public self government can only succeed if its citizens also practice self government in their personal lives. The citizens of a republic must comport themselves with capacities for sober reflection and deliberate choice at the ready. It is not necessary for all or even most to be saints. Nonetheless, to suppose that a republican government could succeed without at least a modicum of virtue in its citizens would be a pipe dream. The American founding was established in a careful language which could be understood by free thinking atheists in one way, by broad minded Unitarians such as Jefferson in another, and by devout Presbyterians such as Witherspoon and and partially secularized Puritans such as John Adams. The key to this code is the analogy between faith and reason. While the American ego rises on both of those wings, some individuals use both wings comfortably, but others feel at home only on the propulsion of one or the other. For the majority of the Founders, it was not rationalism but piety that lifted their courage. Consider only the 89 founders who signed either the Declaration of Independence or the Constitution or both. Most lived in states whose constitutions required of them even for holding office, that they be Protestant Christians. Most so lived, wrote and argued. Men of a purely rationalist temper, most of them thought, are not likely to be morally reliable in times of stress and danger and ambiguity. Men of a purely Rationalist temper were certainly not representative of the majority on whose broad shoulders the fate of the republican experiment rests for most people. And in the long run, the moral entropy that levels the high achievements of an age of moral heroism and lowers the moral practice of a people can be countered only with an awakening brought about by God's amazing grace.

[Steve Dace]

So we have to have. Not everybody has to be a person of virtue, which would be. That would be a term like rectitude in their day and age. They would have said instead of motivations. Right, okay. Providence, they would have said instead of the. Instead of God's will. These were just nomenclatures of the era in which they lived.

[Todd Erzin]

Okay.

[Steve Dace]

And so we're talking about virtue as opposed to character or an integrity. Those might be the terms we use today. Right. Okay. So there's at least got to be some critical mass. Now, what is that is subjective. What is objectively true, though? There has to be a critical mass of these kinds of people in order for self government to work. Now what happens when you lose a critical mass of those kinds of people or the. The critical mass of such kinds of people either lose their nerve or just disengage from the process? Well, you end up in a country where what's an election? What's a border?

[Todd Erzin]

Exactly.

[Steve Dace]

What's a gender? What's a person? What's a criminal? Right. We're back to one of St. Peter's epistles where he says, you, my brethren, were called to be free. You were called to be free, but do not use your freedom. What's the next. What's the next thing he says? To indulge your sinful natures. To indulge your sinful natures. What you see in our culture today, what you see from that crowd at the Texas Democrat Party convention, those are people using their freedom to indulge their sinful purposes or sinful desires, which you see every month in this country on parade. People using their freedom to indulge their sinful purposes or desires. So the question is not whether or not we're going to be free, but to whom or what are we going to use our freedom for? And if we use it in enough destructive ways, we end up back into bondage. And the reason why we're the longest running experiment in human freedom in all of the history of our species is because historically human beings have. They used their freedom for virtue, to use the founder's term, or for their sinful desires.

[Todd Erzin]

Sinful desire.

[Steve Dace]

They're sinful desires. It is a narrow road, after all. And when you're at 250 years for your birthday and you're the nation, that's the longest concurrent running experiment in human self government. That just proves the answer to what you did to the question that you just gave. Yes, and this is also now why we are in revival or bust territory. We can, we, we can, we must take part in the political process in order to defend ourselves and stave off what is already here. Not from. Not trying to avoid something happening because it already has. But ultimately the solution is not political. It is spiritual. And without great awakening level revival, which is what preceded Liberty in America, without repeating that Liberty in America will be lost. That's where we are. And that brings us to ask me anything. Great job, Todd. Don't forget, get your copy of why Independence Day America is Great Because God is good [e-mail] and I don't care what the New York Times thinks. Right. Get your copy today while they still last and before Independence Day arrives. And thank you to the thousands of you guys that have already ordered your copies. Thank you very much. And I again, I love it when you guys send me the pictures of your kids and grandkids reading the book. And I hope it's a blessing to all of them and to all of you as well. And you guys have really blessed this project and all three of these books. So thank you. All right, Todd, ready for some Ask Me anything?

[Todd Erzin]

Let's go.

[Steve Dace]

All right, no topic is off limits. Todd has selected the questions that were submitted by our audience on X. I'll get through as many of them today between now and 1 o' clock central or 2 o' clock eastern when the show concludes, what remains we will get to in the overtime. Aaron, you are locked and loaded, brother. So let's go.

Auburn Tiger is first. Who says I'm seriously considering voting for the psycho Democrat against Lindsey Graham in the general election just to send Graham packing. Is this insane?

So a guy I have known for years, a pastor named Jim Garlow, he coined something. He was in a very, very red district, in a red congressional district and a rhino. And they couldn't just, they just could not unseat him. He just had too much money. No matter how organized the churches and stuff in the district got, they couldn't get rid of the guy. And so he called it defensive voting. I think he did this about 15 years ago. I think Jim did. And, and so they all got together and they actually voted for the Democrat to get him out of office because they knew the next election they'd have the numbers to get rid of him. Right. And I thought at the time, this is pretty ingenious. Okay? So I don't think you're insane, but if Joe McCarthy wasn't wrong, he was just too early. You're not insane, you're just too late. I detest Mike DeWine. I mean, I detest Mike DeWine. If he were running for governor and I lived in Ohio and he was the Republican nominee, I'd be out. I've already gotten. He already gave me the most pro life legislation he's probably going to give me. I think Mike DeWine is going to go. Is it the pro life limits that I'm willing to go?

[Todd Erzin]

No.

[Steve Dace]

So I probably already got all the pro life out of him. I'm going to get. Right, right. So if I'm going to get all the rest of the terrible stuff that he agrees with Democrats on, I might as well get it from Democrats. Right. And then I can maybe get a J.D. vance kind of nominee and run it and use that and run it against him the next time. Right. But if Mike DeWine were running for Senate, I would absolutely vote for him. See, we're going to have to think very strategically here, Because there are certain things out in the open when you have 52 or 53 US senators that, if you're a Mike DeWine or a Lisa Murkowski, it gets way more difficult for you to be this kind of Republican when you're the deciding vote on whether we get our Supreme Court nominees in. You see what I'm trying to say, the pressure to bear there makes it harder for them to be as treacherous as they would be on a statewide level when they're. When the national attention is not on them nearly as much. So. So I think we all have to be very strategic about this. And by the way, when we're strategic, we're going to end up disagreeing at times. Okay. I mean, what was it? Patton, I think, had the famous story where he wanted to keep going all the way to China because he feared what was going to happen next with them. Who was that? I think one World War II was a MacArthur somebody, one World War II general, admiral. Right. And, you know, there was a great strategic disagreement about that. And there was kind of a, you know, kind of a fracturing of a relationship there, as I recall. So, because strategy is our best human ingenuity that we hope, if you're a believer, is guided by the Holy Spirit. But we can have disagreements, right? Paul and Peter disagreed. Paul stands up at The Council of Jerusalem. Like, I think Peter's kind of, you know, not being fair to our gentile brethren. Peter writes later in his epistles, some of the stuff Paul teaches, it's hard to understand. Okay, so we're gonna disagree. When it. When it gets to tactics and strategy, we're gonna disagree. And I think we have to leave a lot of room for conscience. I think what's not open for debate is that this is a time for a lot of strategy and a lot of critical thinking. In Washington, D.C. you also have a great limit. The ceiling of what you can get done in Washington, D.C. is also way lower than what you can get done at the state level, too.

[Todd Erzin]

Right.

[Steve Dace]

So in D.C. i'm just looking for speed bumps. I'm just looking to throw as many orange cones up as I possibly can. At the state level, though, my expectations should be much higher because that's where I get to go on offense. And if I'm not going on offense, then I. I really don't know what we're doing here. So how does that apply here? I would. I would not do that for a Senate seat in South Carolina. I wouldn't. There's six years, not two. Jim did it for a House seat. I believe those are only two years. It. It's six years that you'd put somebody in there. We don't have six years to just waste right now. Fifteen years ago, I might have listened to this, but we don't have six years to waste right now, in my view. We don't. You guys have a thought on that? Maybe you guys have a different thought. What do you think?

[Todd Erzin]

No, that's. We're not exactly great these days. Once you add the need for more strategy. I mean, we can get. Barely get people to show up, as you and Bob talked about, but it's true nonetheless. And even if it's not something you can't stomach regarding Lindsey Graham specifically, the broader principle that Steve lays out is wise.

[Steve Dace]

I'm about to walk off this damn show right now. Both of you lost your fastball. We're talking about Lindsey Graham here, Steve. Lindsey Graham. And both of you are like, gotta vote for Lindsey Graham. I'm just kidding.

You might be right. You might be right.

I'm just teasing.

I also think in general, if we have to have these kinds of conversations about who this Republican nominee for Senate in a state like South Carolina is, then it is probably as late as I think that it is.

[Todd Erzin]

It is.

[Steve Dace]

Yeah.

Bob Crawl is next. Who says communism is on the rise in la? And New York. I don't think it's the masses. However, when only 17% of the electorate in primaries are voting, we will continue to get terrible candidates. I don't understand why people and a boatload of Christians don't come out and vote. Enlighten me and your audience.

Well, history is won by those who show up. The Samuel Adams observation that it's never been the majority that has enacted the most social change throughout history, but the tireless minority that's willing to show up and do the work. Right, Paraphrasing that, but that's essentially what Samuel Adams says. Some historical estimates I've read are as few as 30% of the population was really actively engaged at the time of revolution in seceding from the United Kingdom from the British Empire. There was still a large population of Tories or loyalists to the Crown within the colonies at the time. 56 men decided the destiny of an entire landmass and an entire Nation. On July 4, 1776. 110 people, if you count the men and the women are holed up in an upper room when the Holy Spirit arrives and they end up creating the spiritual armada that did what no other army of antiquity could do, conquer the Roman Empire. My point being is that this dynamic is not new. Sometimes it works in our favor, right? There was a lot of spiritual lethargy in Rome. So many religions that very few people had a serious one in many respects. The early church was able to take advantage of that with their level of commitment and tireless working and faithfulness. They took advantage of the spiritual complacency of the time to spread the gospel. Right? But it works in human nature giveth and human nature taketh away. All right, so I can tell you this though. The one thing that we can fix that is different from the era that the country was founded upon. I thought the point that pollster Scott Rasmussen made about the kinds of colleges and curriculum being taught to the founding generations of the country when they went to schools like Harvard and Yale and Princeton, compared to what they're taught in these schools now is way different. I thought that was a great point. That is such a. That'll take a multi generational fix. That is a daunting task. It might be unfixable, which is why you're seeing fewer and fewer. Fewer and fewer of our kids go to college unless they absolutely have to for something technical. It looks like I'm going to raise three adult kids who none of them are gay race communist, and none of them ever set foot In a university. Maybe that's a coincidence, I don't know, you know. But we can fix the condition of the church. That we can fix because the one key difference that between the two eras is what the church preached then compared to what it preaches now. No king but Jesus resistance to tyrants is obedience to God. We're not, the state is not all powerful, only God is. Since we are free, we really don't need intrusive government because we are free under Christ. So therefore what we really need is a limited government because the people in the government would be just as prone to sin as the people that are being governed by that said, that same government. Those are things we can change. And so that's my focus on this show. Some of the broader things I think are probably beyond our scope in this era. And but even if I'm wrong about that, I know I'm right about this. I know we can't fix them in this or any era unless we fix the church. Because the worldview it will take to fix these things can only come from the Church. It came from the church in the past, it will have to come from the church again. And so that's why that's my focus. Is that okay of an answer?

[Todd Erzin]

It's a great answer. And George Washington agrees with you. I mean that notion of a base piety, a non negotial faith into action is ultimately more important than any reasoned argument that can be made because it's the beating heartbeat of we the people.

[Steve Dace]

C Smith is next with a pretty simple question. Where do we go from here? We're giving up on cities and states now. And places like LA has a machine in place that will not allow an opposing view to take shape. The GOP refuses to pass a law to give those places a chance to come back. Revival will not work with this evil.

Well, I agree with everything. But if you think revival doesn't work, if you think there's an evil outside of the purview of a movement of God, then we just have fundamental differences as human beings. Why? Here's the thing. Let me go back a step I've mentioned a few times already on this show today we are the longest running concurrent successful experiment in self governance in human history. Why is that? Because of the Christian Church. Why did we succeed? And France failed. France took the church officials out and executed them. We passed a first Amendment so that the church would be free of government interference in order to maintain the kind of virtue driven population that was necessary to have this revolution succeed in the first place. So I promise you, in your own flesh, you cannot win. At best, in your own flesh, you might pull off a Hasmonean dynasty,

[Bob Vander Plass]

and

[Steve Dace]

then you'll end up just becoming so corrupted within your own flesh that some of you will end up just appealing to Rome, come and save us from these corruptocrats that, you know, threw out the previous tyrants because they're not really any different that history has played out in our species. How many times? Yes, many, many, many times. There's a. What's it called? It's a book my buddy Bill Federer wrote, From Chains to Change, I think it's what it's called. Or maybe it's Change to chains. It's something like that. From chains to change or from change to chains. And he essentially looks at all 7,000 years of recorded human history up into Obama and it's the same pattern over and over again. We end up using our. Our freedom to indulge our sinful. Our sinful natures as Peter warned us against. And we end up in bondage as a result. And then for a limited time, as a civilization will get itself freed of such a thing, and then we'll go right back to it all over again. The dog returns to its own vomit. We can't break those trends in our own flesh. Our brains are busted. So we need a power outside of ourselves to break those trend lines. And that power is the Holy Spirit. All right. Of the. Of the. Of the one true God of the universe, the triune God of the universe, who begins in Genesis by saying, let us Father, Son, Holy Spirit, make man in our image. And then after we break that covenant, then. All right, Jesus, the Godhead leaves paradise to be God incarnate. God with us, Emmanuel taking on human form to live the life we could not live. A faithfulness so that he was worthy to face the penalty that we should have faced and then be the sacrifice and die the death that we should have died on our behalf so that we can then have eternal life with him. And this side of eternity be the best opportunity to be the people of virtue that Todd was just describing from the words of George Washington minus that what you want cannot work. Didn't say it won't work. It cannot. It cannot work any more than you can violate the laws of physics and motion. Can't work. It's impossible. Oh, I guess we're at the end of the segment. Thought maybe I just bored Aaron to death there. We know he was watching the clock and I was not. Not. We'll come Back. More of your questions here in a moment. Stay tuned. The steve day show. So I got back from the Other side of the rainbow this weekend, and there is a box sitting on my front porch. And it's a shape. It's a very, very unique shape. And I know what it is right away. It's just a matter of which box is it? And it's. It's shaped like the Kexi cookie box. I know what it is. Open it up and I see the stars and stripes and I'm like, you son of a guns. You saved me one. They did. They saved me one of the America 250 cookie boxes that I'm, I'm greatly looking. You want. You guys want a couple? Bring. I'll bring some in.

[Todd Erzin]

Yeah. My, my wife would say thank you. All right.

[Steve Dace]

I'll bring some in for sure. All right, send me a text. I'll bring some in from tomorrow. Okay. But holy cow, now, one I'm not gonna bring in is a s' mores cookie. Not bringing that one cast, though.

[Todd Erzin]

Keep that one we know.

[Steve Dace]

But there's some other ones in there that I know are good that I'll happily share. That one, though, I've not tried yet. And I'm. I'm gonna save that one for me. All right, so you can. Right now, I don't know if they have any of the limited 4th of July boxes left or not. What I do know, though, is all their boxes are great. All the cookies taste like they're homemade because they are. Okay. And. And you can get right now 25 off their standard cookie boxes at kexi.com k e k s I is where you can go. Kexi.com 25 off their standard cookie boxes, which are good enough on their own, trust me. Kexi cookies k-e k-s I.com kexi.com 25 off right now. All right, let's continue on with some Ask me Anything, Aaron.

All right, next is James of Junkyard HQ who says, I saw Mike Lee post somewhere that the Save America act needs to be passed by the first week of August for it to take effect in November. Do you think Thune is stalling on passing it until after that deadline to make sure it doesn't go into effect in 2026, but rather 2028 to help him in his reelection?

I think you're welcome to have any negative motivational theorem about Jon Thune you want. I don't think he's worthy of any level of benefit of the doubt at all. None. So, I mean, Secret Muslim. I mean, at this point, I don't really care what your theorem is. I think his performance justifies all of the most cautionary of tales.

All right, next up, we go to Jonathan, who is ripping off an uncontexted Dace meme AI generation. Keith Malanak has a stage name and wig for when he talks like Lindsey Graham named Stanley. What should Aaron's stage name be when he goes into the Islamianist valley girl motif?

First of all, that image is. Wow, Todd, your thoughts on that image? Holy moly.

[Todd Erzin]

Well, it's. It's worth sharing. I thought, I thought Aaron.

[Steve Dace]

Yeah, Aaron, inshallah and stuff.

[Todd Erzin]

Aaron created by Gag me.

[Steve Dace]

Gag me with a burqa and iconic character.

[Todd Erzin]

It's duly noted.

[Steve Dace]

I'm in. I'm in on that graphic alone.

[Todd Erzin]

Sure.

[Steve Dace]

I'm a. Yeah, it's not Buy seller. Hold. I'm buying. I'm buying on. I'm buying on a Monday. Yes. Agreed.

How about intra Alicia?

Dude, that is. That should be a permanent character on the show in Shalisha. Should be a permanent character on the show that you should invoke. All right. Do you remember how long has it been since you've done Will It Woke?

It's been a minute. I almost did it for Rob Sand. I actually had the assets out and I started editing and it just didn't quite work. Last week I almost gave Rob sand the Will It Woke treatment because Will

It Woke was tremendous, man. When you used to bust that out, I mean, the way you used to score that with the intersectionality scores, Will It Woke was a banger. All right. But in Shalisha, Is that what you said in Shalisha? In Shalisha or in Shaliqua, something like that? I mean, I mean. Oh, gosh. Yes. I. I'm. I'm. I'm in. Yeah, you have. You've got the bosses preemptive permission slip on stuff like that. Absolutely. Open check. Okay.

[Todd Erzin]

Yeah. Yes.

[Steve Dace]

Olgur Dansky is next. You've taken questions from your ex followers, Facebook followers and YouTube followers. Will you dedicate a buy, sell, hold or ask me anything to your dedicated Me we and Gab followers who have been with you through all the tech tyranny or. Nah.

So I tried on the mewe followers a few a couple months ago.

[Todd Erzin]

We did both of these a couple years ago on the regular.

[Steve Dace]

Yeah. And the just me we questions weren't there. Maybe that's my own fault, you know, I don't know. And on the Gab stuff right now, I just. Listen I'm sure that Gab's great. I just know every question is going to be about the Juice. Every question on Gab's going to be about Jews. Every last one. They're all going to be about Jews. I just know that. So. Or nah, so maybe not. It is what it is.

Micah Toole says, when is it time for vigilante style retribution against the works of darkness? I just saw the Seattle video of men and women parading around completely nude in front of children. If I had been near Seattle, I would have gone to jail for assault and battery. At some point when every level of power is corrupt and dead set on destroying children, such actions are necessary. Right. Where's the line?

So without addressing this situation specifically, because I don't know what you're talking about and haven't seen pictures and I was not there. So without addressing the specific situation. Can you call that back up for just a second? Aaron, can we look at the last line of what he has there? The very last line? In general. Okay. At some point when every level. So can. So can I get a rule of order on this? I just want to address the last paragraph. Is that all right?

[Todd Erzin]

Sure.

[Steve Dace]

Because everything else is about a specific scenario that I don't know and can't speak to. But the bottom is a. The final paragraph is a generic premise. Can I. Okay if I just speak to that for a second?

[Todd Erzin]

Sure.

[Steve Dace]

So is there a point when every level of power is corrupt and dead set on destroying children? That other forms of action are necessary? Yes. Again, guys, we're celebrating the 250th birthday of a disputation. The founders won the debate club. They out maimed the British. They voted their way out of the British Empire. No, we're celebrating the 250th anniversary of a revolution. Of a revolution. The. The. The Declaration of Independence is a document of secession. It's a document of. It's a. It's a. It's a document of divorce. It's a breakup letter. And knowing what the cost of this breakup would be, it ends with the line, we pledge our lives. Our lives. Our lives. Our lives. Our lives. Our lives. Our lives. Now why would they have to pledge their lives? Because they. That would be the cost of walking away from an empire that thought it was the ultimate power on the earth at the time. So of course these times exist. Of course they do. Now here's the thing, though. We still have to act as men when that kind of time arises. We still have to act under control. We don't commit atrocities. We don't. We don't torture. Now, I would define torture, by the way, not as an action. I would define it as a motivation, a means of punitively making people suffer in a sadistic way for our own enjoyment. That's how I would define torture. I would not define enhanced interrogation techniques to find and free innocent people as torture. Torture to me is sadism. But, yeah, there. There are still some things we're not allowed to do, no matter what is going on in the world. There are some things we can't do as Christians we can't do, but everything else, we're gonna do everything else. We're gonna do everything else. There's some things we can't do. So Jesus went to a festival of dedication in the New Testament. You guys know where they were dedicating at the feast of dedication? You guys know what they were dedicating? I mean, do you know. I'm asking, you guys know what they were dedicating?

[Todd Erzin]

Not off the top of my head.

[Steve Dace]

The temple. Why were they re. Why were they dedicating the temple? Well, you know it today as a different holiday. Hanukkah. That was what the festival dedication was. You know it as something different today. Hanukkah. How were they able to rededicate that temple? You guys remember? You should know, it's in your Bible, not in ours. But how are they able to rededicate that temple? What took place that they were able to rededicate that temple? A massive revolt. Who led the revolt? What's a revolt? You have. You have a couple of books in you guys's Bible, don't you?

[Todd Erzin]

Maccabees.

[Steve Dace]

Maccabees, yeah. How was this revolt? What was it? They passed around a petition? Is that what they did?

[Todd Erzin]

They did not.

[Steve Dace]

They did not. That's not how it worked.

[Todd Erzin]

It is not.

[Steve Dace]

It is not. No. Okay. Clever pun. They stacked up enough clever puns. They. I know. They memed. They memed the epiphanies out of power. That's what they did. Correct.

[Todd Erzin]

It doesn't work that way.

[Steve Dace]

That's not how it worked.

[Todd Erzin]

No.

[Bob Vander Plass]

No.

[Steve Dace]

Didn't work that way. So revolt meant for the Maccabees. Exactly what we think it means today, right?

[Todd Erzin]

Yeah.

[Steve Dace]

And exactly what it meant on July 4th, 1776. Correct?

[Todd Erzin]

Yes.

[Steve Dace]

Yeah. So yes is the answer to this question. Yes, it is. Yes. But we still cannot act out of control. We're still not permitted to do atrocities. We're not permitted to debase ourselves. But you bet, if someone breaks into your home and threatens your wife and children. The Lord expects you to impose yourself between that threat and them. And you're going to probably. In order to be successful in such imposition, it's probably going to require more than a gift. Oren, I'll be praying for you. It's probably going to require more than that. So yeah, of course.

Next up we go to secret fire who says how long until the end of the age. We see signs like clouds before a storm. Digital IDs totalitarian world government push Israel is a nation again wars and rumors of wars. Not the date and hour thinking years, decades, centuries, I don't know.

I will say though now we should not study the Scriptures eisegetically, which is meaning. Meaning looking at the world around us and then imposing the conditions of the world on the scriptures. We, we read the scriptures exegetically. Meaning we let them inform us of what the signs of the times are. Right. Okay. Not saying you're, you're doing it isegetically. I'm just giving a warning as a general, you know, way of applying what we think the Bible says. If you agree that this is the most likely, rightly divided interpretation of end times events and not everybody agrees most Protestants agree on this today very few Catholics do. There's still plenty of Protestants that don't. And this idea that you're citing is relatively new formation of thought in the Church. There were a few ancient sects that believed in this, but in terms of it being the conventional wisdom within the Church, it's relatively new phenomenon. Okay. Doesn't mean it's wrong. I'm just again stating a fact. If that is what you think is the most rightly divided process, then I would say it's never been more possible to live in the fulfillment of those prophetic translations than it is right now. It's never been more possible to see these things made manifest. You know, and when God acts prophetically, I mean there's a precedent for this. Like I pointed out before, when the time was right, God sent his son. Why was the time right? Well, first century AD is the first time since Babel that the world is largely united under one language and one culture. Rome and the Greco Roman culture. The Romans had gained control of the seaways, which was how mass transportation was done in the ancient world. They were creating proto forms of concrete that exist to this very day that are relics of the ancient world. So by we would still find it to be very treacherous travel by what we're accustomed to with wild animals and bandits and things of that nature. But. But under the. You know, the. The structure of the ancient world, this was the most advanced public transport, mass transit system the world had ever seen. So this was literally the very first moment now since Babel, that when God dispersed the nations and gave him different languages, this was literally the very first moment possible that a movement around the power structures of this world could get out into mass cultures of this planet in order to preach a singular message. It did not exist in human history until right that moment. Right. So that's what that means. When the time was right, God sent his son. The minute it was possible to get this message out, the message went out. You could apply that eschatologically, too. You could say that there. These kinds of prophetic translations have never been able to be fulfilled and manifested like they are right now, provided that those are the proper prophetic translations. You guys want to add any of that? You okay with that answer?

[Todd Erzin]

Yeah.

[Steve Dace]

Aaron, you okay with that? Yeah, I think so. Okay.

All right, let's go now to Jeff Johnson. Steve, you always say we have to love our neighbors as we love ourselves, but Jesus makes it clear in the parable of the Good Samaritan that not everyone is your neighbor. So who do you think your neighbor.

Excellent question. My neighbor is who I have a direct opportunity to interact with and influence. I would give that answer now. I think you commit certain acts where you cease being a neighbor. Like you threaten my wife and kids, and then my responsibility to them takes precedent over my responsibility to you. Okay, but who I have. You know, we have these devices in our hands right now that makes us think that everything's our. Everybody's our neighbor. We can change everything. We can't. I've been to Haiti. It's a terrible country. I'm sorry. What happened there, happened. I went there. It wasn't the safest place in the world for me to go, for certain. I went there for a week and did everything I could to help as many people as I could. And I'd urge others to go and do the same for the Haitian people, but under no conditions should we be exporting that culture into our own. Under no conditions, Negative, integer conditions. Zip, zilch, nada. Right? That's not loving your neighbors. You love yourself. That's what Ali calls toxic empathy. That's what that is. So I would say those that we have an opportunity. But here's the thing. That's the second most important commandment. The first is to love the Lord your God, while your heart, soul, mind, and strength. That God has commanded me as a husband and a father to provide, protect and defend for my family. So my what, what I owe him comes before I owe any of you. Now, as long as what you're asking of me does not get in the way of what God demands of me, then I'm free to love you as myself. If we are in direct, if we have an ability to directly connect with one another. Yes. Okay. With that answer.

[Bob Vander Plass]

Yep.

[Steve Dace]

Yes.

Okay.

And I think that's probably going to do it for this round of Ask Dace. Anything on the show. We will finish up. We've got another round of submissions in the overtime today. A lot of good questions. I thought this week.

I was just gonna say I really like these questions this week. These were really good, very thoughtful. I thought they were very good.

[Todd Erzin]

I thought so, too.

[Steve Dace]

So thank you guys, very much. Really appreciated those gentlemen. We got about a minute left. Any final thoughts on today's program?

[Todd Erzin]

Well, the weight of the concern with people, you can feel not even knowing what you or Bob was going to say. Again, God's providence. People are reading from the same script. Now. It just depends on how we're going to live out that script, the quality of the performance we're going to give in the name of liberty.

[Steve Dace]

Amen.

Amen. We're gonna stick around, do overtime for Blaze TV subscribers. For the rest of you, we're gonna see you Tomorrow noon to 2 Eastern, right after Glenn Beck, right here on Blaze TV. Until then, go hard. Romans 8, 2018.