We're NEVER Going to Beat the Left by Co-opting the Left's Own Framing | 4/1/26

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Title: We're NEVER Going to Beat the Left by Co-opting the Left's Own Framing
Date: April 1, 2026
Host: Steve Deace (with Todd Erzin and Aaron McIntyre)
Podcast Network: Blaze Podcast Network

Overview

This episode tackles the underlying cultural, spiritual, and ideological battles in America, particularly between principled conservatism and the rising "spirit of the age" that Deace characterizes as progressive paganism. Steve and his cohosts examine why attempts to combat the Left using its own language—especially its racial framing—are ultimately doomed, and urge conservatives to focus on foundational, biblical worldview arguments rather than superficial demographic or identity politics.

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Key Discussion Points and Insights

1. Correction on Justice Elena Kagan

• Steve opens with a correction about previously referring to Supreme Court Justice Elena Kagan as a lesbian, after being fact-checked by a listener who used Elon Musk’s Grok AI to clarify Kagan has not publicly identified as such, despite media speculation.
  • Memorable moment:
    “[05:08] A: So, from this time forward, I will not refer to Elena Kagan as the lone lesbian on the U.S. Supreme Court. I'll just refer to her as the Lindsey Graham of the U.S. Supreme Court.”
• The segment is playful but underscores Steve’s commitment to public corrections:
  “[05:15] A: …we don't bury it at the end of the program or on page E14, you know, like the newspapers do. We do it right here at the top of the show.”

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2. “What Happened While We Were Away” (Aaron’s News Roundup)

• War in Iran: President Trump to address the nation regarding U.S. operations in Iran. New Iranian President’s stance is uncertain.
  • [07:48] A (Trump quote): “We'll be leaving very soon, and if France or some other country wants to get oil or gas, they'll go up through the Strait and Hormo Strait... We have nothing to do with that.”
• US Pullout/Operation Epic Fury: Discussion of timeline and consequences as U.S. withdraws involvement.
• Legal/Political News: Trump attends Supreme Court oral arguments on birthright citizenship; federal judge blocks termination of parole status for a million illegal aliens.
• Culture War News:
  • Boise mayor forced to take down a trans flag on “Trans Day of Visibility”, gets emotional, sings hymns:
    “[09:23] C: For each other will carry us through,”
  • Viral clip from a Worcester, MA, city council meeting with dramatic trans activists.
• Sports and Religion:
  • NBA controversy with Jaden Ivey and Patriots’ Travion Henderson pushing back on LGBT activism, with Coach Vrabel hedging:
    “[11:06] A: …I want them to be able to express what they believe in their heart and in their mind, but also want to make sure that they're educated.”

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3. The Real Culture War: Religion, Not Race

Main Thesis

• Steve contends that the core conflict in America isn’t political or racial but spiritual—specifically, a struggle between Christianity and aggressive secular/pagan ideologies.
  • [11:58] A: "...what we are up against is a rival religion...the new Progressivism is just the old paganism."
• The Left frames their agenda using quasi-religious rituals (e.g., singing hymns at political events), indicating that the clash is about worship and worldview, not just policy.
  • [14:07] B: “Hymns...There's a reason why you see the left show up and sing these ridiculous sounding songs. To them, they're not ridiculous at all.”
• Steve criticizes those on the right adopting the Left's racial framing, specifically debates about “whiteness,” as a strategic dead-end:
  • The essential battle is about worldview, not melanin count; the so-called war on whites is actually a war on Christianity, because white evangelicals form the backbone of sustained opposition to progressive policies in the U.S.—a phenomenon not observed to the same degree in other “whiter” Western nations.
  • [21:09] A: “I have no idea what whiteness is. I've never once told my kids, we're gonna do this because we're white. Unless it was a joke...All the whiteness in the world didn't save the UK. It didn't save Germany...the war on whites is really a war on Christianity.”

Why Focusing on Identity Politics is Futile

• "Evil is the home team on racial, sectarian divisiveness. That's their language. Can't beat him at it. But second, and most importantly, God won't let you." ([21:53] A)
• Steve ties this argument to Christian doctrine: God cares about repentance and the spread of the gospel, not the preservation of races or cultures for their own sake.
• Final dichotomy: "The choices really are Christ or chaos. Those are your choices. Those have always ever been your choices." ([24:51] A)

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4. Conservative Weakness: No Appetite for Sacrifice

• Todd laments conservatives’ lack of willingness to suffer for their beliefs, comparing it to the sacrifices demanded by their professed faith.
  • [26:41] B: “…the willingness to suffer, which has always been the game. It's not some eggheaded idea. It's actually the cross, and we don't like it, and we keep running away from it...”
• Aaron follows up by noting that Christian worldview is supposed to be about self-sacrifice—but modern American Christians aren’t living that out with courage or resolve.

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5. Current Political Landscape and Media Commentary

• Podcasters discuss the echo-chamber phenomenon where conservative personalities (Tucker Carlson, Megyn Kelly, etc.) somewhat insularly go on each other’s shows.
  • “[39:01] A: ...the insinuation is that they're kind of these, these five or six shows are all a cabal and they just kind of go on each other's shows to feed each other's frenzies...”
• Analysis of right-wing political factions: Steve recounts how "the right" has never really coalesced around clear principles, and both principled conservative and transactional MAGA politics have significant flaws.
  • “[55:13] A: ...because we did try to be a movement based on shared principles. We sold those principles out for a front row seat at the Republican Party...we would take anybody that looked like they were going to win...and instantly make them the most conservative figure that ever existed. And we sold people out and didn't deliver.”
• Commentary on voter apathy and idolatry: Fewer people are voting in primaries, and Todd accuses conservatives of idolizing comfort and trivialities instead of taking action.

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6. Supreme Court & Birthright Citizenship Concerns

• Guest Daniel Horowitz highlights the Supreme Court’s birthright citizenship case as existential: if SCOTUS rules the Constitution requires birthright citizenship for children of illegal immigrants, there is little hope Congress would marshal the necessary votes or courage to pass an amendment overturning it.
  • [80:35] C (Horowitz): “…there aren't enough votes to repeal a policy of obvious long-term national suicide. That should fill us with a lot of dread for the country's future.”
• Steve gloomily agrees that the "fake right" is to blame for passivity and incompetence; the Left cannot be blamed for taking advantage.

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7. Views on U.S. Operations in Iran (“Epic Fury”)

• The hosts question the political benefit and strategic wisdom of Operation Epic Fury.
  • Steve and Daniel Horowitz speculate that either the White House is executing a masterful rope-a-dope with Iran or there’s a component the public doesn’t understand, since the U.S. seemingly allowed Iran leverage over the Straits of Hormuz.
  • Daniel is skeptical: “...what is happening, prima facie, is so indefensible that I gotta believe that there's more happening than meets the eye.” ([89:43] C)

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Notable Quotes & Moments

• On spiritual conflict:
  “[11:58] A: ...what we are up against is a rival religion...the new Progressivism is just the old paganism. That's all that it is.”
• On the limits of racial framing:
  “[21:09] A: ...I've been white for 52 years. I've been married to a white woman for almost 30 years. I've raised three now adult white children...I have no idea what whiteness is.”
• On leftist tactics:
  “[14:07] B: ...there's a reason why you see the left show up and sing these ridiculous sounding songs. To them, they're not ridiculous at all. To us they are, because we have the exact opposite worldview.”
• On conservative idolatry:
  “[63:20] B: ...I'm asking everybody to read it honestly, objectively. Is that idolatry? Yeah. That silence I get. No one wants to come to terms with that. And if it is, what are you going to do about it? Nothing. This is why we're too hard on Lindsey Graham.”
• On the threat of complacency:
  “[93:36] D: ...until there's a critical mass of people who take the faith that we celebrate in particular this week really seriously, we're just gonna have generations of black pilled shows.”

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Timestamps for Major Segments

• Correction on Elena Kagan & Opening Banter: 00:20–07:10
• News Rundown (“What Happened While We Were Away”): 07:10–11:58
• Spiritual War, Not Racial War Monologue: 11:58–26:41
• Panel Reflection on Sacrifice & Idolatry: 26:41–29:55
• Buy/Sell/Hold Game—Listener Submissions & Media Analysis: 31:27–79:03
• Daniel Horowitz Interview (Birthright Citizenship, Border Crisis, Iran): 79:03–92:53
• Final Thoughts & Closing Reflections: 92:53–End

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Closing Sentiments

The hosts conclude in an uncharacteristically somber, honest mood, feeling "black pilled" (despairing) about the nation’s spiritual and political inertia but urging the audience not to exchange true conviction for comfort or racial demagoguery.

• [94:59] A: "I just want to win, man. And if we were up against some great conquering army, if they had the better arguments...Come Lord Jesus, come...This is just inexcusable."

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Summary Takeaways

• The core fight is between worldviews—biblical Christianity versus the progressive/“pagan” spirit of the age—not merely between political parties or racial demographics.
• Conservatives lose when they adopt the Left’s language, especially its focus on racial identity.
• The real threat to America is a lack of conviction, willingness to sacrifice, and a tendency for idolatry—mistaking hobbies, comfort, or political personalities for deeper philosophical or spiritual commitments.
• The potential Supreme Court decision on birthright citizenship highlights the consequences of decades of conservative complacency.
• There is deep frustration and even resignation within the movement’s intellectual leaders, coupled with a call for authentic cultural, spiritual, and political renewal.

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For First-Time Listeners

Expect a mix of news recap, biting commentary, introspective philosophy, and panel banter. The tone is serious yet interwoven with humor and sarcasm. The message: only a return to core convictions and sacrificial living—not copycat tactics or superficial loyalty—can effectively challenge the current cultural moment.

Transcript

[A]

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[B]

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[A]

There's some things that we're not necessarily sure about on a day to day basis. Like who's actually on our team. Just a few.

[B]

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[C]

My.

[A]

My kids beating on his younger brother or sister. Any other thing that you would recognize as outside of the nature that God intends for your child, right? So you take them to pastoral counseling and Hope that the enlightening of the word of God can open the eyes of my heart, Lord. Right. So that you're living differently. That's. That is so called gay conversion therapy. And the Supreme Court ruled yesterday, eight to one, with even Elena Kagan's vote, that you can't do that against the First Amendment of the Constitution. Right, we talked about that.

[B]

Right.

[A]

And I believe I referred to Elena Kagan yesterday as the lesbian Supreme Court justice.

[B]

I bet this is where we were.

[A]

Okay.

[B]

Yeah.

[A]

All right. So our great friend Dacian memes for pumpkin spiced queens checked with Grok Elon Musk's AI to see if indeed I am correct. Now. Now I'm going to read you this full correction because this thing. She's a beaut, Clark. All right. No, Elena Kagan is not a lesbian. She has never publicly identified as such, and there is no credible evidence or confirmation of any same sex relationships. Right. Did you read the next paragraph? During her 2010 Supreme Court nomination, rumors circulated, often sparked by her never having been married, having no children, a short haircut that she was a lesbian. These were widely discussed in media from outlets across the spectrum, including political, political, ABC News, Mother Jones. Notice these are all on the left. The Guardian and Wikipedia summaries of the episode. Close friends and associates directly addressed and denied speculation at the. So in other words, even though she exhibited all of the hallmarks of what would make someone a lesbian, she is not one. So essentially, Elena Kagan is the Lindsey Graham of the US Supreme Court, mysteriously single, just like Lindsay's. Mysteriously single, lispy, effeminate, not dating, not any rumors of any dating, and couldn't find just somehow one southern belle worthy of being Mrs. Graham in the entire Palmetto State. That's essentially the Elena Kagan bio. Despite all the hallmarks of being a lesbian and being discussed as such by virtually every major left wing news outlet, there's no evidence that she is. Of course, there's also really no evidence when you read the Grok thing that she's not. Nevertheless, I should issue a correction here. All right, so from this time forward, I will not refer to Elena Kagan as the lone lesbian on the U.S. supreme Court. I'll just refer to her as the Lindsey Graham of the U.S. supreme Court. I think that's a fair description. What do you think, Todd? You're the show ombudsman. You get the final verdict.

[B]

All roads on this show lead back to Lindsey Graham. So here we are.

[A]

Indeed. Indeed they do. Aaron, you okay with that?

[D]

Yes.

[A]

Just want to make sure. We're on the same page. So listen, we have to make a correction. We do here right at the top of the show. We don't bury it at the end of the program or on page E14, you know, like the newspapers do. We do it that nobody still reads. We do it right here at the top of the show. So I want to thank our friend Dacey and Memes for pumpkin spice queens for providing that. That correction. And we have now provided the clarification. We will no longer state, although I will. I will state, all right, that Elena Kagan now is firmly number one in my lesbian Supreme Court justice power ratings. She is firmly number one in those while not actually maybe even being a lesbian, but being adjacent. And the Lindsey Graham of the U.S. supreme Court. Fair.

[B]

That's pretty solid because one of the other justices doesn't even know what a woman is.

[A]

That's very true. And may not even actually know what. How to spell homosexual, for that matter. Indeed. She's not a homosexual. Nothing. But she likes the way she handles your. You handle your rig. She does. All right. Coming up on the great winning Zoo radio bits of all time, Trucker Glock. Who wants it? Where are we? I don't know. Matt Gaetz is talking about. Hey, when I was in Congress, they showed me that we were breeding humans with aliens to create a hybrid species.

[B]

Really?

[A]

He just said that yesterday.

[B]

Yeah, yeah, man, I missed that one.

[A]

He said. He just said that yesterday. True story. Yeah, I think they were called Nephilim. I think I've heard this story before. Anywho, on today's show, Daniel Horowitz will join us. We could, frankly, after this opening, we need some woe and lamentation. We need it today. And I'm after talking to him yesterday, I'm pretty convinced he's gonna, he's gonna bring it.

[B]

He's locked in Daniel's like, you don't

[A]

want me on your show tomorrow? That's what he told me. Yes, we're gonna have you on. All right, so he will be with us at the end of the program. We will play buy seller hold in the middle, and that's where you guys will determine what we're gonna talk about. But first, we're gonna talk about Aaron's write down of what happened while we were away.

[D]

What happened while we were away, brought to you by decision day. The White House announced last night President Trump will address the nation in PrimeTime tonight at 9pm Eastern regarding the war in Iran. This morning, President Trump posted on Truth Social that the new President of Iran is much less radical and is calling for a ceasefire based on some media reports whose veracity remains unknown. Iranian President Massoud Pizakian has butted heads with the irgc. The latter group seems to remain steadfast in opposition of any deal with the US that does not end on their terms. President Trump at the White House yesterday gave a potential timeline for a US Pullout with from Operation Epic Fury.

[A]

We'll be leaving very soon and if France or some other country wants to get oil or gas, they'll go up through the Strait and Hormo Strait.

[B]

They'll go right up there and they'll

[A]

be able to fend for themselves. I think it'll be very safe, actually.

[C]

But we have nothing to do with that.

[A]

What happens with the strait we're not going to have anything to do with, because these countries, China, China will go up and they'll fuel up their beautiful ships and they'll leave and they'll take care of themselves. I would say that within two weeks, maybe two weeks, maybe three, we're hitting them very hard.

[D]

President Trump made those remarks during a signing ceremony for an executive order aimed at shoring up mail in voting and voter citizenship and ID for voting. This morning, President Trump became the first sitting president to attend and observe oral arguments at the Supreme Court. The court heard arguments pertaining to the historic birthright citizenship case. Meanwhile, a federal judge in Massachusetts on Tuesday tried to block a Trump administration policy that terminated temporary parole status for nearly a million illegal aliens who were granted the benefit out of thin air by the Biden administration after they entered the United States using a mobile app that was originally designed to streamline the process of checking cargo trucks through the southern border. In Boise, Idaho, the city's mayor wept as she was forced to take down a trans flag yesterday on the so called Trans Day of Visibility, one of the over 530 such days on the Rainbow Jihad calendar. It's not political, it's not religious, it's not ideological.

[C]

For each other will carry us through,

[A]

yes. Our love for each other will carry us through, yes.

[D]

Lauren McLean, Boise mayor complying with state law banning the flying of flags like those of the Rainbow Jihad weeps and sings hymns as she reminds people the trans agenda is neither religious nor ideological. In Worcester City, Massachusetts, this video from last year went viral this week featuring residents showing up to voice their support for turning their town into a sanctuary city for dudes pretending to be women and vice versa. You better prepare for trans people to

[B]

make this a very unsafe space.

[C]

I'm shaking Right now. I don't want to be here. I'm sorry, am I taking too long pleading for my life? You remembered how many children I have

[A]

and how many and that two of them are trans.

[D]

I speak as both the B and the T in the lgbt.

[A]

I do not want to be here. It's my day off. I do not want to be in your DMs. I do not want to be in your email inboxes. I do not want my creativity writing diss tracks like Kendrick. I don't want to spend an hour applying GL glitter on my face so that you will hear and see me.

[D]

It's all funny haha till you remember they're the ones actually showing up. Told you yesterday about the Chicago Bulls releasing guard Jaden Ivey for his criticisms of the NBA's embrace of the rainbow jihad degeneracy that prompted New England Patriots running back and Christian Travion Henderson to come to Ivy's defense, posting Matthew 5:10 in reaction to the story, Henderson's coach Mike Vrabel tried to cut the baby in half when asked about his running back.

[A]

I love Travion. I love the person. He cares deeply about our team. He cares deeply about his faith. He cares deeply about his family, his wife, the people in our building. And so I want them to be able to express what they believe in their heart and in their mind, but also want to make sure that they're educated.

[D]

So New England's former star linebacker turned head coach thinks you're uninformed if you're a Christian. Got it. And finally an oldie but a goodie. The guards outside Christ's tomb. And that's what happened while we were away.

[A]

So we have talked on our show for a long time now about and this conversation was being had even before Todd and Aaron came to work here that what we are up against is a rival religion that the we used to say the new Progressivism before it rebranded as wokeness. The new Progressivism is just the old paganism. That's all that it is. All right. And, and, and the, and the, and what we call woke today is really the spirit of the age. And that's a, that's a term right out of the scriptures to describe whatever is the, the godless zeitgeist or cultural prevailing thought or mood that that claims it's smarter and more powerful than God. And in one of his epistles Paul taunts these these notions and he says where is the sage of this age who will dare stand against God elsewhere in the Word Of God. It says, the fool says in his heart there is no God. What you, what you just saw throughout much of Aaron's montage were, were fools. Absolute lost souls, foolishness. And some of them are literally the bearded lady. And some of them are the guy with the 36 inch biceps and no balls. None can't run and can't run away and cower fast enough. That's the head coach of the Patriots. And I, I, I think that we need to be reminded every now and then maybe, maybe frankly quite a bit, that the war we are fighting here is not political. And even though we're making everything racial, it's also not racial. The war that we are fighting here is spiritual. There's a reason why. And Aaron was so apt to point this out that he noticed the term he used when they were lowering the tranny flag in Boise. What was the term that Aaron used for the songs they were singing? What did he call them?

[B]

Hymns.

[A]

Hymns. There's a, there's a reason why you see the left show up and sing these ridiculous sounding songs. To them, they're not ridiculous at all. To us they are, because we have the exact opposite worldview. On the other hand, when we show up at church, if you're Todd, you Gregorian chant, and if you're the rest of us, maybe you put a hand in the air or a hand over your heart and you sing to Jesus on Sundays, that sounds ridiculous. To them you're the bearded lady. To them you're the weirdo. Because these two things can't share a culture together. They never have, and I promise you they never will. For a long term relationship. It's impossible. And one of the things that I see today that I am concerned about, that is a tactic on our side and it's a, it's a tactic that will lose us this war. And that is to argue about whiteness. And I, I see this a lot. I see this even with people I like. I see this even with friends of mine. I see this even with people we've had on our show in the past. Right now we have a hispanic secretary of state saying we should consider leaving NATO, the north atlantic treaty organization. There are 32 countries in NATO currently. The least white country in NATO is turkey. Do you guys know what the next least white country in NATO is? The united states. The united states and turkey are the least white nations in NATO. Many of the other 29 countries that are more white than us are like, way more white than us. Like, like, Next on the list is Canada. We're roughly 58% white. Canada is like 65% white. Germany, the UK they're like in the 90 percentile, way whiter than us. And yet all those countries are more woke, they're more pagan, they're more godless, they're more simps for Islam than us. So how do we explain this? How do we explain that the NATO countries that we have nothing in common with other than whiteness are way worse than us, yet at the same time, the. The whiter you are in America, typically, the more right wing you are. That's also true. Right. You know, we know that from demographics. Okay, so how do we explain this demographic or. I'm sorry, how do we explain this dichotomy? Well, first of all, let's acknowledge this. There is clearly a war on whites in America, and we need to push back on it with maximum prejudice. But I think if you want to defeat it, you need to know its true origins and purposes. This is occurring because the white evangelical church, even in its diminished state. Did you guys see that Pew study about a week ago that looked at the religious trends of what people really think on cultural issues? And white evangelicals were like, way out. Now, listen, as a white evangelical myself, I'm like, that percentage is too low. Okay? But we were still like, way out ahead of every other demographic group. See, that's your reason why. That's your reason why, even in its diminished state, the white evangelical church in this last generation still preached enough gospel that it created a critical mass of voting opposition to the spirit of the age in a critical mass of voting opposition that does not exist in any other western country other than here. This is why I keep saying countries like the UK you're not going to be able to vote your way out of this now. You can't, sadly, you're going to need. In the UK frankly, you're going to need the kind of existential level of disruptive protest that finally finished off the Soviet Union. The Boris Yeltsin protest that finally finished off the Soviet Union. You're going to need that or you're going to need revolt. You can't vote your way out of it. You don't have a critical mass of candidates to vote for. They don't exist in that country. Nigel Farage has gone soft. There's just not a critical mass of candidates to vote for, let alone if you had the votes and you don't. And so therefore, for the last generation, really all that stood between America and the spirit of the age, doing to us what it did to all these other NATO countries that are way wider than us was the white evangelical church. And because that white evangelical church has no critical mass, only 2% of France is evangelical, for example, since there's no critical mass of that white evangelical church in these other predominantly and way wider countries than us, the they're all way woker, way more pagan, way more godless, way more Muslim. And this is why what I just articulated to you, this is why the left's most potent language is reserved for whites. And they want whites to buy into this as primarily a racial identity thing and not what it truly is, which is a religious one. That's really what it is. And the longer that we go without seeing it this way, that is really a spiritual war manifesting as a political racial fight, the more likely it is that the left is going to win and we are going to lose. Because the longer that we see it that way, the less inclined we're going to be to bring out the greatest weapon we have, the greatest weapon ever forged in the history of this third rock from the sun and the only undefeated and perfect thing on this planet, the word of God. There's a reason why your enemies say, make your arguments without the Bible. There's a reason why tyrannical countries always take the Bible and try to ban it because they can't beat it. If you kept getting beaten by the same team all the time, you'd want them out of your league, too. And so if we're going to wield nebulous whiteness instead, you, then you don't even really. You can't beat an enemy you don't really know. Now, I've been white for 52 years. I've been married to a white woman for almost 30 years. I've raised three now adult white children that to varying degrees, are well adjusted and love Jesus. And I have to tell you, I have no idea what whiteness is. I don't know what that means. I never once told my kids, we're gonna do this because we're white. Unless it was a joke. I mean, how often do you correct Ben on the grounds of whiteness at your house, Aaron?

[D]

Yeah, it's been a really low number.

[A]

Really? No. How about your four daughters? Are they like, holy crap, man, I'm disappointing the white race. I got to get better grades. Have they ever said that sentence out loud to you? I'm sorry, dad. No, no, no. All the whiteness in the world didn't save the uk. It didn't save Germany. Any other place in the world. Because the war on whites is really a war on Christianity. If those whites were voting demographic. I'm sorry, if the whites were voting Democrat, would the left be issuing a war on whites right now? No. No. And that's why whenever there's a Jaden Ivy or a Tony Dungey or a Clarence Thomas, all those guys see Thomas soul, they stop being black and they start. Start just being one of we white guys. Because it's not about whites. It's about what you believe. They love white people who vote their way. That's what it's. It's about what, what you believe, not the color of your skin. The enemy will show you his true motives. You just have to hear them. Now I promise you, if you attempt to fight this evil on whiteness, you cannot win. It's impossible. Cannot happen. First of all, you're playing on the enemy's playing field. Evil is the home team on racial, sectarian divisiveness. That's their language. Can't beat him at it. But second, and most importantly, God won't let you. God has no interest. He's no respecter of persons. He's not here for the preservation of a culture or heritage or some bloodline did that once. That covenant was fulfilled in Christ. We're in a new one now. We're not doing that anymore. He's interested in his Word and calling people to repentance in Christ. This is why Jesus is Lord. This is why Christ is king. Through one man's sin, Adam, we fell. Through another man's sacrifice, Christ we rise. And. And what has arisen from Christ is the most successful, potent, powerful and demographically diverse movement in the history of this planet. Now, let me make this also clear. We are absolutely permitted to want our own traditions, our culture inhabited by people who share them, the preservation of our own way of life. As much as I, I am, I'm bleeding in my soul for the savagery our Nigerian brothers and sisters are facing right now. If they were to be my neighbor, I'd have way more in common with some cynical Vietnam vet that lived next to me, had never been to church in his life. But we like the same sports teams and celebrate the same, you know, customs and holidays and eat a lot of the same foods. I've been pretty vocal. I think we ought to have an immigration moratorium. I think we ought to have mass deportations. I think that we ought to have a closed border. You have every right to preserve your heritage. And just because you're white doesn't mean you don't get to preserve the traditions and customs associated with your culture. Well, everybody else does. America should be for Americans, not foreigners. An American is an American citizen. We are a nation of citizens, not immigrants. The Great Commission does not call us to mass migrations, but missionaries. We're not called to replacement theory, but individual regeneration. However we can. We must never forget this. You're never going to preserve a God given culture with another form of godlessness. It can't happen. Beelzebub cannot cast out Beelzebub. The choices here are not more whiteness and less diversity. How are the white folks doing in having kids, by the way, right now?

[B]

Not great.

[A]

Who's aborting, who's, who's doing, who's having a whole bunch of abortions right now?

[B]

Them.

[A]

Yeah. So we're not even. Even if we tried, would we even win some kind of demographic birth off? Would we win that one?

[B]

No.

[A]

No, because the foreigners are coming here and having way more kids per capita than the white folks are having. Yeah, it's white women that are voting, single white women that are voting for all these abortions on demand and having quite a few of them. The choices really are Christ or chaos. Those are your choices. Those have always ever been your choices. And those will always be the only choices you have. For something will always rule and something must always be worshiped. It is worldview and not demographics that is destiny. Europe has all the demographics we're looking for and yet none of us think they have the superior culture to us at the moment. In fact, we're, we're debating now on our side about whether we should decouple from Europe even faster than Israel. Holy Week is a reminder that it is not nostalgia. You know, one of the reasons why they, one of the reasons why the Jewish leaders, many of them missed Christ was their cultural nostalgia. Oh, wait, we, we're sinners too. We have to repent too. I thought we were going to, you know, instantly restore the kingdom of, of David and, and rule here. I thought we're going to make the Greater Israel Project that comes right out of the Bible. We're going to make it happen right now. You mean to say even though through all my robes and how much Torah I've, I've memorized, I have to still repent of my sins, that I'm just like these lay people out here doing the sacrifices every day that I haven't arrived, that our culture is not unique and special? I have to repent too. Yes. Cultural nostalgia fails. And whoever is willing to suffer the Most for what they believe in, wins, and ultimately gets to determine culture. Gentlemen, your thoughts.

[B]

I have just. Daniel thoughts. When he says, you sure you want me to come on the show today? These are my thoughts. I. I don't. We're not serious about what you just said, Steve. When you make those comparisons about our similarity to the pagan next door, even though we spiritually might have more common than with the person in theory in Nigeria, that. How often does that theory actually play out? This is why I bring up all the time. The. The. The person going to church, even every Sunday on the cul de sac almost looks exactly the same as the pagan living on the same cul de sac. And it's because of that last part you talked about, Steve. The willingness to suffer, which has always been the game. It's not some eggheaded idea. It's actually the cross, and we don't like it, and we keep running away from it instead of running to it. And just the mere fact of bringing that up to people in various obvious ways that you're telling them, and I do this all the time, you're telling them not to stop it altogether. You're telling them it's gone too far. They hate you for it. How dare you. I'm just. Something drastically has to change. You know, we're afraid of boots on the ground in Iran. I get it. You know what? The modern Christian is also afraid of boots on the ground right here in America. You know, we don't want to go to war about anything. Can I just be left alone?

[A]

Well, that's why you're getting lectured to it by the fools in Aaron's montage in that. In that city council video. Yeah, that's why you're getting it.

[B]

Yeah.

[D]

It's time to let the lion out of its cage. Really. You know, I think there are some. When it comes to what you're talking about with whiteness, what is whiteness? You know, I think it was the Smithsonian. I brought this up in passing very quickly, in overtime earlier this week. It was like the Smithsonian or some national museum brought up blackness or something, what blackness meant. And it was a bunch of things that were, like, not exactly good.

[A]

Flattering.

[D]

Yeah, they weren't flattering, but they were trying to make it sound like it was a good thing. And so his whiteness, you know, the opposite of these. You're still playing the enemy's game, you know, whether you're running a political campaign. You've said this, I've heard you say this behind the scenes so many times. Whether you're running a political campaign, whether you are coaching a team, are you going to have more success accentuating what you are good at or trying to be better than what the enemy is good at? You're going to be better at accentuating what you are good at. In the biblical worldview, greater man hath no greater, greater love hath no man than this, that he would lay down his life. That's what our worldview does really. Well, what does that require? What Todd was just talking about suffering. That's what we do. Well, we're supposed to anyway. Are we doing it well right now, though?

[A]

Well said. The Steve Day show. All right, Back here on the Steve Day show, brought to you by Jevity. Maybe you guys all know a guy, strong, active, seems to have done everything right. Then one day gets the call. Stage three, stage four, everybody's like, well, he seems so healthy. How did this happen? Well, that's why Jevity exists, because you're fine. It's not always good enough, especially as we start getting a little bit older. That's why they test over 100 markers. The stuff that actually tells you what's building beneath the surface. The stuff your insurance maybe doesn't want to cover. Right. And depending on where you live, they can come and do the blood draw right there at your home. No appointment backlog, no six week wait. Your care team will then walk you through what your results mean for you and what to do about them. I've gone through this and I was extremely impressed. I even took the Jevity stuff to my own doctor. She was very impressed. All right, so don't be the guy everyone's surprised about. Be the guy who already knew. Go to gojevity.com all right. G E V I T I for longevity. Gojevity.com that's gone. Use the promo code DACE for 20% off. See what's coming. Promo code days for 20% off at gojevity.com gojevity.com code DACE. All right, are we ready?

[B]

Sure.

[A]

Let's play. Shall we play a game? We shall. And the game is called buy, sell or hold. You guys know how this works. All right, Aaron has your submissions. Todd, you and I have yet to see them throughout the course of the next hour. We'll get through as many of these as we can. What remains we will get to in the overtime for BlazeTV [e-mail] DACE. Use the code DACE. You'll get $20 off your Blaze TV annual subscription so it comes out to a Quarter a day comes out to, what is it, eight bucks a month? Can't beat it. You'll get all the exclusive content we do just for you here at the blaze. Blazetv.com dace code dace. So you don't miss today's overtime or any other exclusive content via Blaze tv. Right. So we'll get to as many of these as we can. What's left is in the overtime. You and I will decide, are we going to buy it? Are we going to sell it? We are permitted to hold. After all, that is the name of the game. Buy, seller, hold. But holding is considered such an emasculating move that it requires a very, very draconian punishment. Therefore, shall you invoke your hold. You're going to have to find out, Todd, what Lindsey Graham did with his Disney World bubble wand.

[B]

Once again, why are we harshing on men's hobbies? I'm reliably told that you're on your leisure time. You can do whatever you want just to kick back and relax. So I think we're just being too hard on Lindsey Graham.

[A]

Well, you're going to find out how hard he was on that bubble wand, brother. So don't hold. Do not hold. Aaron. Fire.

[D]

We'll begin with uncontexted to electric Boogaloo. Who has this? This is the current state of the Steve Day Show. It's the Ben Affleck.

[B]

Love it.

[D]

Smoking and exhausted. Gif. Love it or meme.

[B]

Perfect.

[A]

I. I'm. I'm going to come clean for you guys. This is exactly where I am. All right? I'm down bad. I'm just going to be honest with you. I'm down bad right now, and I'm doing my best, man. I mean, I'm trying to turn all the chicken salad into chicken caca I can right now because everything we're doing, nobody voted for and nobody ran on.

[C]

And

[A]

something wicked this way comes, brother. I'm doing everything I can to hold it together. Right? I mean, I'm down bad. I'm. I'm trying to make this the most entertaining I can make it. All right. I'm. But I'm. I'm unwell right now. So this. This meme. I mean, I'm wearing something Michigan every day this week because I've. That's really all I got right now is the final four.

[B]

Perhaps that's the bad luck. I mean, perhaps we need to turn that.

[A]

I mean, I know it's working pretty on the back. It's working for the basketball team. Trying to Get a little. I'm trying to get a little magic there, some mojo from that. But I. I'm down bad. I'm down bad. I am. This is me putting on a brave face, trying to make this thing as go team as I possibly can. But it kind of feels to me like we're down 20 and the die is cast.

[B]

What if your team sucks?

[A]

Well, it's. You know, our team sucks. Radio is really hard to get people to listen to.

[B]

I don't know. I have people trolling the heck out of me on X for that version of it.

[A]

Now, here's the other thing.

[B]

Maybe it's worth a shot.

[A]

I've done all kinds of stuff that was hard to listen to. The other thing it does is it's early still. It is still April 1st. A lot can happen in seven months. All right? But this game is not going well. Right. And. And this is way more important. And you know, this. This game's way more important than the games we're joking around about here. Right? So I'm fighting to the end. I mean, I'm playing to the whistle, okay. But. Well, I'm feeling more like the Tennessee Volunteer basketball team was feeling Sunday afternoon than the team that wore this jersey.

[B]

A lot of people on our side don't believe what you just said, that the games we're joking about aren't any less important. That that's the problem. We have too many idols. We need to smash them.

[A]

And then there's a lot of people on our side that just believe. Absolutely. People want endless war in Iran and they want to pay high prices and they want higher gas and. Yeah, I know. And then they're all going to turn and just be shocked. First Wednesday in November. Why did nobody tell us? Well, you didn't want to hear it. You know, I want to win. I want to win. And I'm hard to get along with if I. If we're not winning. And I'm even harder to get along with if I know where there's things we could do to win and we won't do them. And these guys can tell you that that's when I'm really difficult to get along with. I do not struggle on the things I cannot control. I struggle with the stuff that I think that I can. And it didn't have to turn out like this. That's when I'm very difficult to get along with. And I'm feeling that way right now.

[D]

Next we go to Dacian Memes for pumpkin spiced Queens with this excerpt from the Tuk tuk binks show quote, buy seller, hold quote. They said now saying that the trading federation be blocking the Naboo Misa wondering why we so nada warned people. But didn't a Naboo bring in it on themselves? Dis is nutsy. He yee ye ye hoo hoo. Ooey buoy. And why said they be called Naboo? Isn't they ghosties? We said be jeering. We said be jeering. Dem. Buy, sell, or hold.

[A]

I'm absolutely buying that. If you can make me laugh after the spleen I just vented, that has to be bought. That is. I wish you all the podcast listeners, I wish you were looking at this. All right? But sitting there with Tucker's sweater, with. And Jar Jar sitting there, it just. The image just cracks me up, man. Okay. I mean, that was. I needed it. I'm still down bad, but not as bad as I was five minutes ago. I needed that. Thank you. All the buys.

[B]

I mean, the statesman go. I think once again, Jar Jar's also gotten a bad rap. Really? Compared to what we deal with every day.

[A]

How much? Okay, can I do a little sidebar since we went there on the Tucker thing for a second, can I do a little sidebar with you guys?

[B]

Sure.

[A]

Do you guys buy this trope online that these guys just all go on? Like Megan and Tucker and Dave Smith, and they all just go on. And they just all go on each other's shows? That's kind of a thing now, I don't follow it that closely, but one of the things I see. I don't know what is. What's. What's the trope here that they do just go on each other's shows all the time and tell. And. And. And essentially, you know, intellectually manual do. The intellectual equivalent of manual. Manipulate, manipulation, a circle. Okay. Or is the trope that they do do that? You see what I'm saying? Is that not really true, but you guys get the sense that these just the same six people go on the same podcast, all saying the same things to each other all over and over again. Do you guys get that sense that.

[B]

I mean, everybody's got. I mean, heck, this show has a group of people that are on more often than others. So that's not my. Like, when I think of them, that's not my lament if I have one. I mean, it's kind of normative that you do, but I don't even know. Like, it's just the two big insinuation

[A]

is that they're kind of these, these five or six shows are all a cabal and they just kind of go on each other's shows to feed each other's frenzies, to elevate each other with their, you know, retarded, you know, foreign policy views.

[B]

This isn't it for everybody else in conservative media to suddenly talk about one certain group selling out. I don't know. It's not the hand you got to play on this one. I'm not buying it.

[A]

Okay.

[D]

I think the best thing is just to take each person individually on a case by case basis.

[B]

Okay.

[A]

All right.

[D]

Jonathan has this. Tonight's presidential primetime speech will be about the launch of the Artemis 2, but timed to freak out Iran with the potential he could be announcing a ground invasion. Do you buy the overall sentiment this is some sort of big head fake. Now Caroline Levitt did say specifically last night this address will be regarding Iran. Still they could pull a fast one.

[A]

I think there will absolutely be an address on Iran tonight. And I think that there's like three or four approaches of what it will say. That could go down to 10 minutes before the address before we decide which one it is. Because there's an ongoing leveraging and negotiation happening here. So I think they range anywhere from there could be of the three or four, one that announces a ceasefire, at least a, some kind of 30 day temporary ceasefire, you know, to see if the Iranians will keep it. Or hey, we're sending in the Green Berets, I think, and, or and then there's a couple, that one or two that could be in between. Okay, that's the one. Could be, hey, we're making progress, but we're still negotiating and they've. And I gave Iran. How much time was it he gave him for the straits?

[D]

Until like the sixth, I think to the sixth.

[A]

Okay. All right. So they've got another week here almost, you know, to open that up. Otherwise we're going to bomb them. Back to the I, I think there's, it's a choose your own adventure book and I think Iran's choosing which adventure the President decides to declare tonight.

[B]

That's what I think the only honest answer about what this might entail is the one you just gave uncertainty because we listen, we've been given a lot of benefits of the doubt to the uncertainty on multiple fronts with this thing because Iran is absolutely an evil entity that has not just overt malicious designs but carries them out on the regular. So if that was not the case, we'd. This would, this would Be basically looking like our analysis of Ukraine because we just. The communication about what's been going on has not been great.

[A]

Correct. The one difference, the major difference here is one has defined. Has acted as a threat against our interest and declared that they are.

[B]

Yes.

[A]

And plans on being even more so. And the other has not. Right.

[B]

So that again, has bought a lot of benefit of that on people. You know, the show is exhibit number one. We're trying. We are trying to.

[D]

Next we go to DJ Miller, who says if Democrats were made an offer to secure nationalized health care, seeing as we're already there with Medicare, Medicaid and the va, but illegals have to go due to program costs, Democrats still wouldn't sacrifice any future voters even to score a key campaign sales pitch item.

[A]

In fact, you're so right. The Republicans ought to do this to expose it. Actually, the Republicans ought to say, all right, nationalize health care, but you have to be a citizen.

[B]

This is another.

[A]

And make, and make Democrats say, no, we're not for that. In order. So, okay, so really then the only issue you guys really care about then is that we can't have a citizenry. We can't have a country. No matter what the policy is, it can't be a country for Americans, by Americans, to Americans. It can't be. No matter what the policy is, even if it's your own policy, it cannot prioritize the American people. The Republicans actually ought to suggest that

[B]

this has been happened multiple times on multiple issues, which is why I've often presented to you my hard cases abortion philosophy. This is another version of that. Oh, really? The hard cases, Rape, incest, healthy mother. Those are your problem. Okay? You have that, whatever that is. 2%. You give me the rest of them. They'll never take that deal ever. Even though you think it's immoral, you should put it on the table for them because they'll never say they can

[A]

flesh out the false objection. Yes. And make, and make them show you that they wouldn't take it if offered.

[B]

Yes.

[A]

Listen, remember after this, the State of the Union speech and I talked about how well the president did, and he made this very point. All right, stand up if you think we ought to prioritize Americans instead of illegals. And no Democrats stood up. Right. And see, and I, and I walked out of there feeling, hey, we're back on message. Everybody's unified. We never talked about, we're going to invade Iran. Who knows how long it'll take? 4 weeks, 5 weeks, I don't know. You know, Maybe, blah, blah, blah, blah. I'm, listen, I want us to win. I hope, I hope we kill every single member of the, since we're there, I'm just not, I'll go on the record and I say this, I think it's totally biblical. I think it's Romans 13. I'm fine. If we kill every single member of the Iranian high Command and every single member of the Iranian Revolutionary Guard, I think the world's a better place and God is glorified. If they all die, they made their choice. Totally fine with it. But that's a separate question from, we can't run from Tim Walls in Minneapolis. Why did we run from Tim Walls in Minneapolis and run to Iran? That's a separate question. And now I'm looking at polling from Scott Rasmussen. Support for this thing is dropping. We can't fight for other countries harder than our own. You just can't. It's not 1987. All right? We have a myriad of fundamental problems here. I was in North Dakota this last weekend and I cannot tell you how many people I heard from. Man, I cannot find a good husband for my daughter. I cannot find a good wife for my son. In North Dakota, In North Dakota, We, we, at some point, we have to prioritize our issues. I agree that Iran is an issue for us, But the reality is we are way more threatened by the fundamental systemic things in our own culture right now than we are Iran. The Israelis aren't. But I don't live in Israel. I love Israel. I love, I'm, I'm, I am a Zionist. I don't live in Israel. I'm an American. When you're on an airplane, whenever you get on and I, I'm on a lot of airplanes. I travel a lot, I speak all over the country. And it's funny, you know, when they warn you, hey, if, when, if indeed there's a problem and we lose turbulence, we lose air pressure, or the plane's going down and the, and the safety mask comes down. What do they always tell you to do? Put yours on first before you put on the one neck to the, you help the person next to you because if you're not secure, you can't help the person next to you. See where I'm going with this? We are arguing right now in the US Supreme Court, and I've been following this during the break, essentially the chief justice of the US Supreme Court thinks it's totally fine if a billion foreigners come here. I, I, I, I, I'm not terrible. And nobody else is that wants to make sure that their kids and grandkids are at least as secure from Drag Queen Story Hour as the Israelis are from Iran. And I don't think that makes you terrible or an anti Semite or any of those things. And I freaking hate the anti Semites. I volunteered to take on the Gripers at Amfest. I asked for it. Said, you bet, man. I'll take that one on. I volunteer as tribute. You don't have to ask. I volunteer. It made my thoughts on Fuentes and all this very well known.

[B]

Yes.

[A]

And will I continue to probably do so. And will I continue to probably have to, yes. But we have. The plane's going down. We've got to put our own masks on first. More in a moment, Sam. All right, back here with hour two, Live and on Demand on Blaze tv, radio and podcast. I'm Steve Dase alongside Todd erzin and Aaron McIntyre. Let us know what you think about what we think via the steveday.com inbox, which you can take advantage of by emailing the show. Steve dace.com that's D E A C E like us on Facebook, me, we and Gab. You can follow me at steveday show on X Instagram and TikTok. Also, don't forget to subscribe to our new YouTube channel at Day show on YouTube. That's at Day show on YouTube. Pardon me. You can also subscribe to the podcast version if you haven't already hit that subscribe button or if you're on Apple itunes, you hit the follow and that's how you know for sure that every time we do a new episode, it's for sure right there in your podcast feed. And then finally, if you wouldn't mind, if you are a podcast listener and haven't done this yet, tens of thousands of you have. But we have way more podcast listeners than that, so there's tens of thousands more who could leave us a five star review. That's if you like the show. Of course, we would never ask you to lie. We would of course ask you to exaggerate. We think that's totally fine. Okay, so if you just kind of like the show, maybe bump us up to a really like, thank you. And many of you have already done that and shown pity upon us. And so we are grateful. Appreciate it. We're also brought to you by our friends over at Van Man. You know, they, they are a little skeptical of the new natural personal care brands out there. All right. And you know, they know they, several of these are kind of Sold out years ago to massive corporations, private equity firms. They replace the real ingredients with the cheaper chemical substitutes. But Van man, they're going in the exact opposite direction. They're one of the companies that even helped kick off the tallow movement. They're staying committed to using real traditional ingredients instead of corporate filler. Their tallow bomb is made from grass fed tallow. There's a reason that matters. Those fatty acids in that tallow, they're identical to the oils in our own skins. So it naturally produces the glow that you're looking for. And you're going to notice the difference immediately. That's just one example. All right, so go to vanman shop/dace. Vanman shop dace. Use the promo code dace for 15 off your first order at vanman shop/dace. Code dace for 15 off. Van man, real ingredients, no exceptions. Van Man Shop slash dace. Promo code dace.

[B]

One of my girls just asked me the other day, hey, dad, you guys still cool with the Van Man? I mean, I get street credit because I'm involved with van.

[A]

Is that, is that a passive aggressive way of saying you guys getting more free stuff in you can give me pops? Probably was that and I respect that. I totally respect that. At least your kids ask my kids just grab my Raycon headphones and walk off.

[B]

You got five women in my house that are all in on this stuff.

[A]

Okay, good stuff. All right, let's get back to some buy Southern hold. Aaron, fire away.

[D]

We will continue on with Brian who says Steve's assessing the right as a big tarp community was spot on. But now so many consider those like Tucker and Megan quote on the right when they never were. They were always mainstream media and left of center at best buy seller hold.

[A]

I'm going to sell that, particularly where Tucker's concerned. I mean, he has a long body of work. And I think that's why so many people have been, myself included, have been so challenged by how to relate to some of the zaniness we are seeing right now. Because it's not even that some of the positions that he's taking, I know we had the conversation, I think briefly yesterday about my contention is I think that Tucker, at least I think the Ron Paul movement. I see this with some prominent Ron Paul people I know and I follow or follow me. They are, they are mean. Listen, RON Paul is 90 years old. And as a senator, Rand is not really afforded the level of ideological rigidity in that position that his father could have. See what I'm trying To say, like, you're in the Senate, man. You're going to take some bad votes. Like, he's the most libertarian member of the Senate, Rand Paul is, but he's nowhere near as, like, consist ideologically rigid on this as his father was. See what I'm trying to say? Okay, so you need kind of a new intellectual fountainhead, to borrow a. Another libertarian Iran's term. You need a new fountainhead. And I think it's very clear. I don't know if this is what Tucker wants, but I think it is very clear that prominent Ron Paul voices are kind of trying to make Tucker that voice. They're trying to make it happen because he's already got the wherewithal of the, of the celebrity and the, the, the platform. And I think what you're gonna end up finding, I think you guys are gonna be very disappointed, okay? Because I think the only thing really paleo about Tucker is his disdain for Zionism, but I don't think it's coming from the same place that you guys is. And I think once you get past the Zionist part, you're not gonna get any of the serious discussion on monetary policy, fiscal policy. I mean, is it, Does Trump. I'm sorry, does Tucker talk about anything other than Israel these days?

[B]

Not that I know.

[A]

I mean, it's the overwhelming majority of his content, and it was before Operation Epic Fury ever launched, you know, or was even on the radar screen that this may launch. So I, I, But I, I do think that they're looking for a new fountainhead. They, they, they. There's no Ron Paul capo that has anything close to the, the platform to sustain his legacy. And so they're trying to kind of make Tucker anoint him. And I think you're gonna find he's more King Saul for you than David would be. I think what you're gonna find. Megan has had several iterations in her career. I mean, she's done mainstream media, she's done. She was the one that Roger Ailes sent out that very first debate in 2015 to try to take Trump down. Remember that? She, When Trump talked about the bleeding from her whatever after the harsh treatment he got in the debate, he was talking about Megyn Kelly when he said that, you know, so she's had different iterations throughout her career, and I don't really know her well enough to make that kind of a judgment. So I guess if you. She's been kind to me, you know, But I also don't know her, like, at all. I. So I think because she's kind of had several different media iterations. If you want to make that claim about her, I might be more open to listening. But no, Tucker believes serious things. Whether they're seriously right at any given moment is up for debate.

[B]

And Steve mentions the two specific people brought up on one side of your equation. Let me address the other side of the equation. You know, they haven't really been the right. What is that? What has it ever been Isn't. If you had to winnow it down, if there was one poster child that you had to win it down just on raw percentages, isn't it closer to Jon Thune?

[A]

See, that's not good either. When Daniel Horowitz texted me yesterday, you don't want me on your show tomorrow, listen. All right, and because he was just losing it over the quote, fake, right? And I texted him back, what was the real right before the fake? What was it?

[B]

That's my point.

[A]

See, we're in this moment with sort of this mishmash populism. Trump. Well, it's maga, but it's America First. And that's not really an ideology as much as a battle cry. We're here because the previous era failed people. We're here because we did try to be a movement based on shared principles. We sold those principles out for a front row seat at the Republican Party. I'm old enough to remember when I had to argue against the Heritage foundation because it was promoting Romney's Romney care health care mandates in white papers and distributing them around the state of Iowa during the Iowa caucuses. And I had to push back on that. We would. We would take anybody that looked like they were going to win any election as a Republican at all, no matter what they believed, and instantly make them the most conservative figure that ever existed. And we sold people out and didn't deliver. We had all these Tea Party people go in 2010, and they ended up actually being the most profligate spending Congress in American history. The company I came from, Conservative Review, was founded because a very wealthy man was one of the biggest bundlers of the 2010 Tea Party wave. John Boehner did nothing, but he promised this guy he was going to do and wasted his money. And he looked around conservative media and he saw no one was holding these people accountable. He called it Conservative Review to troll National Review because they sold out their birthright. He went, this is how Daniel Horowitz and I got to be friends. He recruited Daniel, recruited me. He found me. He recruited me to join Conservative Review. The President of the Blaze, Gaston Mooney was, was the president of Conservative Review. He was brought in because he was Jim Dement, the most conservative member of the Senate, his chief of staff. We were formed as a company to hit the Republican Party from the right because no one would do that. Anything the Republicans wanted to do, no matter how left, they got away with. It wasn't until George W. Bush tried to cut them and, and John McCain tried to cut the deal with, with the Ted Kennedy for endless amnesty that Rush finally stood up and said no, we can't do this and stopped it. And then Bush turned around and called Russian all of us basically a bunch of xenophobes. And I know Eric Erickson is just nothing. It's just a panic attack waiting to happen online since COVID But there was a time when his red state actually pushed back on the Republican Party from the right. That's why Harriet Myers got defeated and we got Samuel Alito instead. We've been selling out to the Republican Party the entire time. So along comes Trump. Clearly we can't have a movement based on shared principles because we'll just sacrifice those like the Esau as we are. So why don't we try on transactional shared relationships. And to the Trump's defense, he has moved the Republican Party further right than it ever is. Right now the Republican Party says the most right thing ring things and has done even some of the most right wing things we could have never gotten it to do before. When I suggested 20 years ago in my home state that we needed school choice where the funding followed every child, no matter what building that was, whether that building was at home or a private school or a charter school or a public school, the funding followed the child. The Republicans looked at me like I had both eyes in the same socket. That's now the policy of the state of Iowa and the policy of the couple dozen states in the country right now. But now, see, the problem is the limits of when you aren't aligned by, by, by values. And then when your leader starts getting older and he's a lame duck and he'll never be on the ballot again and, and then he starts anointing people not because they share his principles, but because they, they slurped him to the right ratio. Looking at Joe Kent, Marjorie Taylor Greene, these are now the people stabbing him in the back like Brutus to Julius Caesar at the front of the Senate. Beware the Ides of March because it's good to have, it'll work to have a political movement on Vested interests. Provided the one who decides whose interests are vested can wield enough power to hold everybody in line. But the minute he starts getting older, the minute he starts getting term limited, people like, I don't think you're the pony I can ride anymore. And now suddenly, I've got a conscience when they never did and don't now. That's what's happening to us right now. That it? What I just described is the last 25 years of the Republican Party in America. So, see, I can do it in a short amount of time if needed. Not everything has to take a half an hour. All right, but I just gave you 25 years in. In three minutes. That's where we are. And I. I don't know the way out. I don't. I don't. I'd tell you if I did. I didn't even have a guess. Couldn't even proffer. You guess. As the great prophet Bill Belichick once said, it is what it is.

[D]

Next, go to Nate, who says Paxton, Ken Paxton, showed us a public method to gain an endorsement and allow Trump to play both sides and win. I see this as one of the few ways to shape the primaries for the better. Other candidates need to take notes.

[A]

Totally agree and buy. Now, you also have to understand that Ken Paxton built up highly visible, built up his own name ID to the point that he could pull a play like this. Okay, the list of people who could do this, small, but your. Your observation is still correct. And it's. It's among the most deft political moves I have seen in my entire career. I mean, you know, impressive. Most impressive. I mean, that. That. That was a Jedi move, what he pulled here, for sure.

[B]

Well, I, I agree, but it's mostly Jedi in the sense that it's rare. I mean, really, it's not genius. It's just having a bare modicum of stones and understanding a moment and an opportunity. We used to call that being a man.

[A]

Well, now you just described why it's so rare.

[D]

Next is. I was promised a good time. Who says more people use the various Kalshi polymarket predictive markets nationally to bet on the NCAA Final Four than turn out to vote in the primary elections nationally.

[A]

Oh, gosh, this is not even close. Of course. Of course this is true. I'm telling you right now, we're going to have fewer people vote in this statewide. We have not had a gubernatorial contested primary in Iowa in 15 years on the Republican side. 15 years was the last time we had one. 20. 10. So no, 16 years. We are going to have fewer people vote in this gubernatorial primary than voted in the 2016 Iowa caucuses. And that's with an all time record amount of Republicans In Iowa, over 700,000 of them. We have a 200,000 voter registration advantage. And I would not be shocked. Rob sand is running unopposed. And I, I mean, I, I may, I, I may. Joker pencil trick myself live on the air. If this happens. Don't be shocked. If more people vote in the Democratic primary for Rob sand unopposed, then we're going to get in the Republican primary. Yeah. And that is beyond. I'm not. I mean, a few days ago I was in the corner. Cut me, Mick. That's cutting myself. If that happens. I mean, I'm cutting myself.

[B]

That's Aaron's montage.

[A]

I'm stigmatying in the driveway. If that happens.

[B]

They show up. They sing hymns. Yes. Who. Who wrote this, Aaron? I don't.

[D]

I was promised a good time.

[B]

Okay. I don't recognize that person. So they're not like a, a, a slappy on my behalf. I'm just saying based on that, I mean it. I'm asking everybody to read it honestly, objectively. Is that idolatry? Yeah. That silence I get. No one wants to come to terms with that. And if it is, what are you going to do about it? Nothing. This is why we're too hard on Lindsey Graham.

[A]

The last thing on earth I want to be is too hard on Lindsey Graham.

[B]

Everybody just gets to do what they want to. It's their hobbies blowing off some steam. That's what it looks like right there.

[A]

I'm gonna tell you right now, based on the way I think this midterms gonna go, I'm gonna need a post midterm Disney vacation. I'm gonna need to get away. I'm gonna need one. I finna need quite a bit. Like maybe I'll buy some Tucker nicotine patches. I'm gonna need a lot.

[B]

We won't deal with our idolatry, so we can't have high expectations. It's just that simple.

[D]

SoCalConservative says a compilation or highlight reel of Steve's MSNBC appearances back in the day would be the most watched video on Steve's YouTube channel. How about it, Aaron?

[A]

Yeah. I've looked for these, by the way. We, we kept some of them in our old archives there. I mean, these appearances all predate you. I don't know how much of that like video because we used to play them on the show like in 2011 and 12 and stuff when I was on there. So I don't know how much of that is still available to you, Aaron, or not. How much we've kept all the moves and everything else, I have no clue.

[D]

I mean, I uploaded a bunch of them on YouTube back in the day, but I know some of them are still.

[A]

So some of them are still out there. Oh, okay.

[B]

All right.

[D]

Yeah.

[A]

I've not watched those in a long time. A long time. My favorite one is when the one I was on with Ed Rendell, and it was actually this one was one of the last ones I did. I think it was before the 2014 or. No, it was after the 2010 midterms. So it wasn't one of the last ones I did. You know, I can't remember. But we filmed this one at IPTV via SAT Uplink, so Iowa Public Television. And they had me on with Ed Rendell talking about, if I remember right, how bad the midterms went for Democrats. And you guys may not remember Ed Rendell. I think he was one of Clinton's election victories. I think he was his campaign chairman, mayor of Philadelphia, head of the dnc. Right. You remember Ed. He always seemed like a. Like, kind of a cool dude, just way too left wing. Right, Right. You know, but a dude at least maybe one of the last, like, dudes the Democratic Party actually had, you know, that could relate to people like us. And his whole thing of how Republicans had won the last midterm election so decisively was gerrymandering. And I'm like, ed, how do we gerrymander a Senate race? That's. How do we gerrymander a statewide Senate race? Ed, do you get. Can you. Am I missing something? How do you. How do you gerrymander? Did we move population in and out of the state? I mean, I don't know how we gerrymander a Senate race and then it's moved on like it doesn't matter. Good talking point. That's one of my favorite ones. We gerrymandered winning the Senate. We gerrymandered this winning the Senate. Apparently you can just move people from Nebraska to Minnesota win a Senate seat there. Or you know how we gerrymander statewide races? Do you know how we do that? You know how that works? Because I'm thinking we're going to have to gerrymander some folks to win this governor's race. All right, maybe quite a few.

[B]

Asking for a friend.

[A]

Yes. If you know how to gerrymander a statewide race, which is Ed Rendell accused us of. And a Thing that him and I did together on msnbc. I'd love to know. I don't know how you do that. That was one of my favorites. We gerrymandered to win the Senate. That was cool. Can we do that this year? Can we? I mean, Alabama. Doesn't mean Alabama's got enough Republican voters can move some of those to Michigan. Maybe just. We gerrymandered it. You know, rural Alabama is now in, you know, the UP of Michigan. Is that how it works? Can we do that? No.

[B]

You got your own little project Hail Mary going on, don't you?

[A]

I do, yeah. Tell me how we can. Ed Randell accused us of gerrymandering to win the Senate, and that was the former head of the Democratic National Committee. Yes. I'm just sitting in a public television studio in Johnston, Iowa, and I'm like, I don't think he can do that. Oh, gosh.

[D]

TC Turtle is next. Steve and Todd are having a great time lately with the screenshots of Steve walking off the set and Todd laying down on the desk.

[A]

That's great. I'll buy that. That's a great side by side. I forgot you did that a few weeks ago. I forgot about that. Yeah.

[B]

I don't even remember what the bit was or why we did it, but you were gone. And Aaron and I looked at each other and just said, yes.

[A]

I've walked off twice. One was the night of the 2016 Democratic convention when they, for the first time since I think Jefferson was a Democrat, started quoting the Constitution against us. I just couldn't handle it. I just got triggered. And if I remember right, Aaron was off.

[B]

Yeah. That's why it was.

[A]

You had to guest produce. Okay. And so it was just you. We're on like 100 radio stations across the country and Todd's like, what's going on?

[B]

I think Kim was still with us. I'm pretty sure. So she was still sitting there. Yeah.

[A]

And then two days ago with the. Was the second time it's happened. Yeah, I just. I just need a minute. I'm so triggered. What may happen next means we are all fired and never work again. And I just need a moment.

[B]

Yeah.

[D]

Next we go to Lawrence, who says, I don't have a good buy, sell or hold, but this week's hold penalty should be to sniff the bubble wand.

[B]

Dude, pretty much what.

[D]

There are a lot of these submissions, and I want to tell you, the ones remaining, I took all of them. Took them all.

[B]

One man's bubble wand is another man's NFL Sunday Ticket. How dare you, T.C.

[D]

turtle double dips. The punishment for holding today should be that you have to find out as eyewitness what exactly Lindsey Graham is doing with that bubble wand.

[A]

Well, that's what we did. That's exactly what I chose. Yes, that's the. That's. That is the punishing. That is the punishment for holding. You've got to know what Lindsey Graham was doing with that bubble wand at Disney World. That's exactly what we picked. So great minds think alike. Bye. You bet.

[D]

Dirty Oak is tracking with Steve's mood. The Steve Day show will get a huge following on YouTube, only to be squashed on itunes until Apple gets sued. Then iheartradio will squash the show until they're sued, and the show will get squished by Spotify until getting sued, only to lose everyone on YouTube yet again.

[B]

Nailed it. I have that. Math is solid. Solid.

[A]

That's not a buy. To buy that seems like would cheapen it somehow. That's metaphysical. I mean, that's. That's. I mean, this is. This is, you know, this is not buy seller, homily. Okay. I mean, that's. That's existential. I mean, I think that just cheapens just how potent that. That that offering is to just. To just denigrate it with a simple buy or sell. You don't buy or sell that. That you just exist. You just acknowledge that. Right. You know, buy or sell gravity. You know, buy or sell the jet stream. Right. You know, buy or sell the temperature. It is what it is. That's a. That's a cause. That's a force of nature. And that's exactly what that post was. 100%. Yes.

[D]

Let's go to this. Andy in Florida with a random one. Prometheus is arguably the best movie in the Alien franchise.

[A]

No way. Come on, man. I suppose if it's the only Alien film you've seen, I could see why it would be high up there, but no way. The second one, Aliens, Game over, man. That's one of the great sci fi films, like, period of all time. So it's not even in that ballpark. No. I have you high.

[B]

I have no idea. How many movies are there?

[A]

You're sniffing Lindsey Graham's bubble wand. All right.

[B]

How many Alien movies?

[A]

Seven or eight, I want to say now.

[B]

Are there really?

[A]

Yeah.

[B]

I'm so proud. I'm so proud. I don't know. I just look so disgusting. Yeah. I just. I'm trying to play, but I just. At some point, I'm like, are you. I mean, I Don't know why.

[A]

The look of just utter disdain on his face. That is a species. We've made that many Alien films was tremendous.

[B]

Get to do whatever hobbies I want whenever I like.

[A]

It looks like when his daughters didn't go to class, that's the look on their face they saw. Just like utter. Just disgust. All right. Oh, gosh, that was great. Oh, man.

[D]

Next we go to Julia, who says it's time for the convention of states. No, really, this time I don't.

[A]

I 100% agree. I think you're. We don't have the demographics to give Republicans much more majorities than we just gave them. I mean, so if these majorities aren't better, aren't good enough, then there's just nothing left. I don't know. It's time. Throw the Hail Mary pass. We're at the end of the game. It looks like the Supreme Court is poised to say we can't have a border and anybody can come here and become and do anything they want whenever they want. So if that. And apparently we can't find a lawyer, I don't know any chance to listen to it. But according to Clay Travis, who's kind of a cheerleader for the president, if we're being honest, we sent a solicitor general up there who literally can't talk. So that's great. Okay. So, I mean, I'm sure, though, he gave the requisite Trump slurpage on some Twitter post, so that's why he got that job. Maybe we need an sg, though. Could talk. Might help, you know, for this particular pivotal moment in all of human history. All right, So, I mean. Yeah, okay, cool.

[B]

Yeah, it's.

[A]

And then. And then when I sign off here after this show, I'll go on X and be told by 16 people that I won't criticize the administration anymore. And I'm a total sellout. Guaranteed. Guaranteed. Just to line them up.

[D]

Just really serious people.

[A]

Yeah, y. Just to line them up. You bet.

[B]

It's so funny. I remember vividly Old Studio. It was before, when it was Blaze. It was radio. We were having these conversations. We were having Mark Meckler on. And my arguments were, listen, this is. It's a trap. We don't. As a Republican Party, we don't stand for enough things. We're going to get tricked. They're going to go in and the left is going to be way more aggressive. And you know what? And so I said, we slow your wall. I don't. I'm not sure we're there yet. I Believe everything I just said. It still holds. It's a trap. The Republicans don't stand for anything. We might lose. But now I'm the opposite side. We have to do it. And my logic has it, because of what Steve said, we're. We are so out of options.

[A]

I don't even want to contemplate. You think we have a hard time getting our people to vote now? You think we're having a demoralization problem now? What's one of the main issues that gets our people to still show up and vote in the polls? Supreme Court justices. Let's have the Supreme Court come back and say you don't have any borders anymore. You don't have a country anymore. You. And as long as a billion foreigners come here and plop out a kid without you asking, they're now Americans. Get to vote you out of your country. Gaston Tyler, if you're listening, don't have an election night coverage on Blaze tv. And if you do, don't invite me. Psa.

[B]

Yeah. If we weren't, where would you yet be struck? This is Isaiah 1 territory. I the lessons we have not learned as whatever the movement is on the right from COVID from. From transgenderism, from borders. Not having them. I. Those are all the things I just figured when we were having these arguments. We have to give it time for people to realize the stakes. They're going to learn from this. They're going to learn from this. They didn't. So now, while I still think this could end up in utter disaster, so is everything else, so why the heck not? Next.

[D]

Somewhere in Kentucky has this. Getting rid of the filibuster serves no purpose. There aren't even 50 Republican votes to support the Save America Act. Anyway,

[A]

to that, you know what I'm gonna answer. I'm gonna get you decide if you think this is a buy or sell or not, okay? Because this is from a really smart guy, Blake Neff. And Blake Neff is the producer, one of the producers of Charlie's show. And I mean, Blake was. Was kind of the nicer, balder version of Todd, you know, learned Catholic friend of Charlie's that he would consult with on some of these deeper intellectual matters. Here's what he just posted eight minutes ago. Quote, the most black pilling part of the birthright citizenship debate at SCOTUS isn't that they might rule. The Constitution requires it. It's that if they do, there isn't a hope in hell that Congress would ever pass a new amendment to fix that.

[B]

Right?

[A]

It should be the Easiest thing in the world to pass a new law clarifying that tourist anchor babies and surrogate children brought by cc. Chinese Communist Party oligarchs don't get lifelong US Citizenship yet everybody knows Congress will never do this. There aren't enough votes to repeal a policy of obvious long term national suicide. That should fill us with a lot of dread for the country's future. Yep.

[B]

Same conversation.

[A]

And that. And that's. And that is from one of the most. That is from. Of the trusted intellectuals of. Of probably the best and most unifying leader we had that they shot in the throat. Yeah. There. What it took to win this last election was extraordinary.

[B]

Yeah.

[A]

And remember when I said what it will take to keep it together after we won will even be harder? All right, all right. This is like, as you like to point out, this is the Dr. Str. This is the one. This is the one. Okay? And we are. We are wasting political capital on things that won't win the next election. Instead of on fights like this, we. We have to fight as much for citizenship in our country as we do for the citizens of Iran. And I don't think that's true. Much to ask of the people that we voted for. I just don't. And I don't apologize for it. The Steve Day Show. All right. I'm down bad. I'm already black pilling hard right now. And this is me during Holy Week, man. What do you think next week's gonna be like? And this is. This is me during Holy Week and with my favorite team, maybe the greatest team in college basketball history. No. They're at least in. They're at least in the conversation. They win this.

[B]

Muddy the waters.

[A]

They're at least in the conversation.

[B]

They're not at all.

[A]

They're at least in it. They're not in it. At least.

[B]

You don't have to.

[A]

At least a little bit.

[B]

You don't have to counter Stallion.

[A]

See, I knew. I knew I could. I knew I could get a sports take out of you. I knew. Knew I could do it. You fell for it. Just bananas right there in the tailpipe. And you took it anyway. This is me down bad. So why not just. Let's just go ahead, man. Just bring in the profit of war and lamentation. Let's just keep it rolling. Daniel Horowitz is here with us. Brother. How are you?

[C]

What a time to be alive.

[A]

Steve, I want to share with you something we were just talking about before the last break. All right. This is from Blake Neff, and Blake was kind of Charlie's Todderson, kind of his Catholic editor sidekick to bounce things off of, maybe has a bit of a different perspective as a Catholic that he does. Smart guy. Right? Here's what Blake just posted. The most black pilling part of this birthright citizenship debate at SCOTUS isn't that they might rule. The Constitution requires it. It's that if they do, there isn't a hope in hell that our Congress would ever pass a new amendment to fix that. It should be the easiest thing in the world to pass a new law clarifying that tourist anchor babies and surrogate children brought by the communist Chinese Party oligarchs don't get to have lifelong U.S. citizenship. Yet everybody here knows our Congress will never do that. There aren't enough votes to repeal a policy of obvious long term national suicide. And that should fill us all with a lot of dread for this country's future. He just posted that. Oh, 18 minutes ago. All right, so I know you were taping as the arguments were going on today. Okay. But I also know this is, this is an issue that, I mean, you, you would be. I mean, you're going to give Stephen Miller a run for his money on who on our side has maybe written more on this topic over the last 15 years than you have. Right. So. All right, so let's just use what your, your knowledge of the issue and what Blake wrote here that we just cited kind of as the takeoff. And, and now I hand it over to you.

[C]

So, so, Steve, I. That's exactly the point we need to make before the oral arguments. I made the case that the Trump administration needs to communicate very clearly to the public the arguments why it cannot be true. It cannot be true that people could invade illegally, assert jurisdiction and allegiance, and steal citizenship for themselves in their posterior, to the point that even prospectively, the people, through their elected representatives, have no recourse to prevent them from doing so. So if you have sort of a, you know, a scrimmage line, like a football game, and you have a pregnant woman and there's a border agent and they're able to get through the line, drop the veil, nothing you can do. I mean, personally, even if it didn't say you're born in the US and subject to the jurisdiction of the second clause, if it just had the first, you know, first clause, born in the US There is no way you could read that, like Amelia Bedelia, like a, that an invader could come in and assert jurisdiction. So he should have made the case, then made another case that people Forget within the 14th Amendment, there's something called Section 5 that gives Congress plenary power to enforce the provisions of, of the 14th Amendment. So not only do they have Article 1, Section 8, plenary power over naturalization, which this interpretation would denude them fully of that right because they don't have control over who's a citizen, foreigners do, but that they don't have control over the 14th Amendment itself, which they do. And then rather than the SAVE act, remember, this is a much bigger deal. You're talking about about 7 to 9% of all births in the country every year. CIS estimated in a given year that could be about 250,000 people. That's a much bigger deal than, you know, whoever winds up voting illegally as a non citizen, that should be what he stakes it out. Instead, I'm going to show up. We're going to win. When the reality is there is not a single legal scholar that believes we have five votes against anchor baby jurisprudence, which in itself is an indictment of Republican.

[A]

And this is this. If you know John Roberts, this is not an issue that he will permit to be determined five to four. No, it's going to be minimum six, three, one way or the other. There's no way any kind of hot button issue like this is getting decided by one vote. Well, Steve, the overturning of Roe was decided by one vote. Well, the overturning of Roe was, but that case was not. Roberts ruled on again, ruled for the Mississippi abortion ban. He ruled for it. All right, so there were six votes for that. Okay. He didn't want to go so far as to overturn Roe and the other five justices did that. Okay, so, so on something like that, it's almost never going to be five to four. All right. Roberts will craft the idea that him and Amy Coney Barrett are going to vote separately. They vote like 90% of the time together. All right, So I mean, this was, this is going six, three, one way or the other. Yeah.

[C]

And so, so yeah, it's either, it's a question of Gorsuch, it's either two or three. I mean that's, that's really the question. But, but the reality is that once you tell me that they could redefine marriage, they could redefine humanity, they could redefine sexuality. And then we've had a build up. Just yesterday we had a district judge say that Trump has to keep the CBP1 app. So Biden illegally beyond statute takes away Article 1, Section 8 of Congress and creates his own visa program. And, and the judge says, you have to keep it. And they're like, okay, you know, I mean, I don't think Trump should have spent time on the ballroom, but he did. And a judge said you can't use it. I mean, it's.

[A]

By the way, how would that, how would that judge like stop the construction from happening? Would he like run out under the, under the, under the White House grounds, you know, bypass all the security to get there and run onto the, and just stand in front of the cranes. Forbear, forbear. I demand. I mean, how would he stop that from occurring in the first place?

[C]

It's so. Look, Steve, I don't mean to toot my own horn, but it's tough being 15 years before everyone on every issue that MAGA feigns outrage and care to, to care about, but then they don't really see it through. I literally wrote the book on this stolen sovereignty. I said, even if we elected the best people in the world, but if we accede to basically this notion that anything a court says is, is God's law and you have to affirmatively use your powers against what you know, the Constitution to mean and use it to empower them, then we're done. And I gave birthright citizenship as that was the crux of the book that I said, if you don't stop this, they're going to create the ultimate stolen sovereignty, which is you don't only. You're not only denuded of the right to self determination on every critical issue, but you're denuded of the right to determine who becomes part of your society. And I warned about this and here we are and it's going to happen. I would not have frankly appealed the lower court opinions because it was the Trump administration that appealed it, because you know what you're going to get. I would have said, now I think we all know legally, once it's not in the Constitution, which, which it's not statute just cuts and paste the 14th amendment. So you could do it executively, but I think politically it would have made sense for him to stake out his presidency. Getting Congress, on the other hand, thanks to the endorsements of the Rhinos over five consecutive cycles, you're right, we don't have the votes. They actually agree with it. Look, Wong Kim Ark, it says blatantly in there that you're a citizen. You come, you know, here to immigrant parents if permitted to reside in the US that's that that line is in the opinion. It's. I could go through a bunch of arguments that the Solicitor General did Not give that. By the way, your Solicitor General in Iowa, Eric Wasson, did a great job. He actually put these arguments in that the Supreme Court has said. I just want to briefly share with your audience. It has said it in, in an uninterrupted stream of cases for 140 years that if you're here illegally or even given temporary status while we adjudicate your right to remain here, it is in the most literal, physical, territorial, geographical sense, as if you are standing outside, outside the boundaries of the US So therefore, even if it didn't have subject to the jurisdiction, if it just said anyone in the US is, you know, born to someone in the US as a citizen, it could not apply to them. They're not in the us they're outside of it. A bunch of are saying, oh, haha, you mean they could commit whatever crimes you want that you don't get the benefits of it. And then yeah, of course, if you come and invade, we could clamp down on you and capture you, but you can't assert allegiance in that you grab citizenship for yourself. The fact that we're even debating this is like debating a psych ward. It's mentally ill. And by the way, you know, where in the finer case, what was it, 1948, 1950, where Justice Jackson said the Constitution's not a suicide pact, Roughly paraphrasing. Do you know what that was? That was an American citizen speaker speaking out. And they were worried that that was causing, you know, violence and anarchy. So there was a local ordinance against, you know, what he was doing and he, he, he was arrested. That was First Amendment rights for an American citizen. And you know, Justice Jackson, who is a champion of due process, lead dissenter at Korematsu, Chief justice at the Nuremberg trials, he was very clear that at some point you have to temper any doctrine with some, a modicum of common sense. And yet here we're applying it to, you know, 8 billion people just come and steal it. But again, I don't blame the left for doing that. I blame the fake right for going along with it. And they've been doing that until now.

[A]

The President's going to give let's. There's going to be way more to say about this in the coming weeks as we await the opinion. But the President's going to give a national address tonight on Epic Fury in Iran said yesterday we are negotiating with the the head of parliament in Iran, who has run for President several times in Iran unsuccessfully, but is also known as a hard liner, although he claims he's more of a technocrat. He's, he's. They're supposed to deliver a letter to the White House sometime today before this talk, basically formally asking for a cease fire. The President said there will be no ceasefire without a complete opening of the Straits of Hormuz.

[B]

Right.

[A]

And so Scott Rasmussen has polling out today that this Operation Support has dropped nine points just in the last week. You know, we're hitting that four to five week period of time that the President named when we went in right there at the beginning of, or right there at the end of February, beginning of March. So what do you think all this means right now?

[C]

I mean, politically, I think it's,

[B]

it's

[C]

a needle in a haystack. You can only lose by so much. So this war is only a few weeks old and long before it, we've had the warning signs of Republicans underperforming by 15 to 25 points across the board. The main thing is the economy. The only thing things like this do is exacerbate the point that the economy is terrible. You're not focusing on that priority. And it's getting worse. And I'm going to blame who, who's ever the incumbent in power. I don't think fundamentally people care either way on the underlying issue of Iran and if anything, they would agree with the President. But the bottom line is, like I said, Israel was doing this for free. When they had the element of surprise, Trump pulled them off and then bizarrely, a year later decides to do it with weird timing. I'll say this. What, what is happening, prima facie is so indefensible that I gotta believe that there's more happening than, than meets the eye. And I know I usually don't give him that grace with domestic policy because you could easily see what's happening with, with matters like this, it's hard to really see. They had to have known about the Straits of Hormuz. They had to game theory to all of this. So I, I don't know.

[A]

You're saying that they're, I. Let me make sure the audience can follow.

[C]

This could be a rope, a dope.

[A]

Yeah. You're saying there has to be something we don't know because the one piece of strategic leverage Iran was, they were never going to be able to stand up to our military. Right. They had no chance. So they really only had two fallbacks.

[B]

Terrorism.

[A]

Okay. Terrorism and the straits. Right. Those are their two fallbacks. Right. And so this idea that we'd be four to five weeks into this and not have the straight of Hormuz is like a primary objective already on lockdown. We were already in total control of it. And so they've kind of had this quasi leverage to negotiate for the last few weeks. What I hear you saying is there must be something we don't know that we are allowing them. This, this, this, this, this perception of, of. Of some form of leverage when we've been obliterated, obliterating their military the entire time. Is that kind of what you're saying?

[C]

No, no, exactly. I mean, because leading up to this, it looked like he was going to cut a deal with them, and then a day later, it's bombs away. And so I think when it comes to things like this, there's got to be more. I would hope there's more. The other marker I would lay down is that, you know, the presumption militarily is that to secure it, you're going to have to have some sort of ground force on the islands, on the shores. But I would argue there actually is another option that I would, you know, I would think would be a good idea, which is that the straits aren't closed. They're closed to us, but they're open for Iran and its allies. I don't see why. I mean, we, we have the biggest naval build up there than we've seen in modern history. I don't see why. We can't say, all right, you don't open it up, we'll shut you guys down. Because, remember, they needed opened for their exports and, and their own shipping. So I'm not sure why we haven't been doing that. And that wouldn't even require ground forces. So, I mean, these are the sorts of things that I'm going to be looking for.

[A]

Good to see you, my friend. Thank you.

[C]

Have a blessed Easter. Take care.

[B]

Thank you.

[A]

Happy pass over to you. All right, gentlemen, thoughts as we get out of here. Final two minutes.

[B]

Daniel nails it when he talked about how don't get all eggheaded and high and mighty with the arguments. The fact that we are talking about this and he uses the term over and over again, it's true. And it's just like that with transgenderism, and it was just like that with COVID and it's just like that with Borders, but we keep doing it all the time. And again, it's because of what we are. Aaron showed us on the show how many more people are on a betting app than voting. There it is. We have an idolatry problem, and we have no plans to smash those Idols, we're doing great.

[D]

Everything's great here. How are you? I don't know what else there is to say. This has probably been the most black pilled show. Obsidian Vantablack show. And how appropriate maybe it is this week in Holy Week. I just pray that the faith that we all celebrate this week is really real to a real majority of people. If not in this lifetime of ours, this mortal coil, then the next generation. Because until that's the case, we're gonna. It may be the Steve Day show, it might be the Aaron McIntyre show, it might be the Autumn's Hibbs show someday. It might be the fill in the blank generation after generation. But until there's a critical mass of people who take the faith that we celebrate in particular this week really seriously, we're just gonna have generations of black pilled shows. If we can even do shows like this in future generations. I just. Men without chests abound.

[B]

Yep.

[D]

And it's just. And that's the same thing we've been saying. It's just I'm at where Todd has been multiple times. How do you say the same thing in a different and more compelling way? And I'm just out of words.

[A]

I just want to win, man. And if we were up against some great conquering army, if they had the better arguments. Come Lord Jesus, come, come what may. History books. It's our turn. Hey, we gave it a great run, you know, time for the next superpower to give it a shot. This is just inexcusable.

[B]

But it's who we are. It's honest.

[A]

And that's, that's why I'm honest. That's exactly why I'm not happy. Because this, it doesn't have to go like this. It doesn't. It just doesn't. It's self inflicted. Back at it again tomorrow, noon to 2 Eastern, right after Glenn Beck, right here on the Blaze TV. Until then, go hard. Romans 8:28. Hey marketers, listen up. Before this, there was this. Our voice. It's how we shared knowledge, build communities. Well, guess what? Voice is back. That's why Spotify Advertising has published a new report, the Sound on era. Because audio moves culture forward. And if your brand wants to be heard, you need a sound on Strategy. Go to ads.Spotify.com to download the Soundon era and turn up the volume on your business.