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What if chronic pain is not something you have to manage forever, but something your brain and body can actually unlearn?

In this powerful episode of the Stop Chasing Pain Podcast, Dr. Perry sits down with Dr. Howard Schubiner to discuss his new book, Unlearn Your Pain: The Science of Recovering from Chronic Pain, Fatigue, Anxiety and Depression. They explore how chronic pain can be driven by learned neural pathways, nervous system sensitization, stress, emotion, and the brain-body connection, not always by damaged tissue.

Dr. Schubiner shares a science-based, compassionate approach to helping people understand their symptoms differently, calm the threat response, and begin creating the conditions for real recovery.

If you or someone you love feels trapped in a cycle of pain, inflammation, fatigue, or fear of movement, this conversation will open a new door. It is a reminder that healing begins when we stop only chasing symptoms and start asking better questions about the nervous system, the brain, and the story the body has learned to protect you with.

Share this episode with others and get the UNLEARN YOUR PAIN book here.

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