"Sisters" w/ Casey Jane Ellison

Summary

Podcast Summary: StraightioLab - Episode "Sisters" with Casey Jane Ellison

Introduction

In the December 3, 2024 episode of StraightioLab, hosted by George Severis and Sam Taggart from the Big Money Players Network and iHeartPodcasts, the duo delves into the intricate dynamics of sister relationships within straight culture. Joining them as a special guest is comedian and playwright Casey Jane Ellison, who brings her unique perspective and experiences to the conversation. The episode, titled "Sisters," explores societal expectations, stereotypes, and the nuanced roles sisters play in shaping individual identities.

Main Discussion: The Concept of Sisters in Straight Culture

Exploring Stereotypes and Societal Roles

George Severis initiates the conversation by dissecting the traditional portrayal of sister relationships in literature and media. Referencing classics like Little Women and modern interpretations, George highlights how sisters are often depicted with varying personalities—ranging from the brainy one to the supposedly "crazy" brunette. He states:

George Severis (04:05): "Thanksgiving food is inherently so ugly when photographed. And yet we have been taught in our society to cook for the sake of taking photos of the food."

This observation serves as a metaphor for how societal expectations can sometimes prioritize appearance over substance, a theme that parallels the superficial judgments often placed on sister relationships.

Intersection with Queer and Straight Dynamics

The conversation takes a deeper turn as George introduces his belief that "pessimism is optimism and optimism is pessimism," suggesting that underlying societal pressures blur the lines between positive and negative perceptions. Casey interjects, emphasizing the importance of gratitude, especially during the Thanksgiving season:

Casey Jane Ellison (09:07): "Especially this Thanksgiving season. It's great to be aspirational and to want more and to be gay in that way."

This blend of humor and insight underscores the episode's central theme: the balancing act between societal conformity and personal authenticity within sister relationships.

Guest Insights: Casey Jane Ellison on Her Show "It's My Sister"

Premise and Narrative Structure

Casey Jane Ellison introduces her one-woman show, "It's My Sister," which unfolds as a fictional phone call between two estranged sisters. The narrative alternates between each sister's perspective, revealing the reasons behind their prolonged silence. Casey explains:

Casey Jane Ellison (19:22): "It's like analog play. You're hearing the phone call from one sister's side and then the other sister's side at a time. So you hear both sides of an incredible fictional story."

Themes and Cultural Commentary

The show delves into themes of familial obligations, personal trauma, and the societal pressures to maintain certain familial roles. George and Jared Goff, co-hosts, engage with Casey in dissecting how these dynamics reflect broader straight cultural norms. For instance, Casey mentions:

Casey Jane Ellison (40:23): "The whole show is a phone call between two sisters that haven't spoken in five years. It's like hearing one side and then the other to uncover the layers of their relationship."

Reclaiming and Redefining Sisterhood

A significant portion of the discussion revolves around redefining what it means to be a sister beyond traditional stereotypes. Casey advocates for a more nuanced and authentic portrayal:

Casey Jane Ellison (47:06): "Sister is the conduit to being mass. Being gay for both."

This statement encapsulates the episode's exploration of how sister relationships can serve as a foundation for broader identity formation, challenging conventional straight cultural narratives.

Conclusion

The episode "Sisters" of StraightioLab offers a rich, engaging exploration of sisterhood within the context of straight culture, infused with humor and critical analysis. Through Casey Jane Ellison's insights and the hosts' probing questions, listeners gain a deeper understanding of the complexities surrounding familial relationships and societal expectations. The episode not only entertains but also encourages introspection on how we define and perceive sisterhood in contemporary society.

Notable Quotes

• George Severis (04:05): "Thanksgiving food is inherently so ugly when photographed. And yet we have been taught in our society to cook for the sake of taking photos of the food."

• Casey Jane Ellison (09:07): "Especially this Thanksgiving season. It's great to be aspirational and to want more and to be gay in that way."

• Casey Jane Ellison (19:22): "It's like analog play. You're hearing the phone call from one sister's side and then the other sister's side at a time."

• Casey Jane Ellison (40:23): "The whole show is a phone call between two sisters that haven't spoken in five years."

• Casey Jane Ellison (47:06): "Sister is the conduit to being mass. Being gay for both."

Final Thoughts

"Sisters" is a thought-provoking episode that masterfully blends comedy with social commentary, offering listeners both laughter and meaningful insights. Casey Jane Ellison's contribution emphasizes the importance of redefining traditional roles to better reflect the diversity and complexity of modern familial relationships.

Transcript

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[George Severis]

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[Jared Goff]

Foreign what is up all?

[George Severis]

Happy Sunday.

[Jared Goff]

Happy Sunday, everybody.

[George Severis]

Let's face it. Happy Sunday. How was your Thanksgiving?

[Jared Goff]

Oh, my Thanksgiving was good. I was back in. I went to Virginia. How was your Thanksgiving?

[George Severis]

It was incredible. We hosted. I made so many things you would not believe.

[Jared Goff]

I believe.

[George Severis]

Let me know if you agree with this. I was thinking that Thanksgiving is such a. I wouldn't go so far as, say, anti capitalist holiday, but I would certainly say it goes against the, you know, the sort of logics of big tech. Because Thanksgiving food is inherently so ugly when photographed. And yet we have been taught in our society to cook for the sake of taking photos of the food.

[Jared Goff]

I think this is such a good point. I had never thought about the fact that Thanksgiving food is ugly.

[George Severis]

Yeah, it's like uniquely. It's actually uniquely delicious and uniquely ugly, which is the one thing the companies don't want is for you to enjoy yourself without it being consumed by others.

[Jared Goff]

Well, I think what's an interesting thing about it is it's not necessarily uniquely delicious, but it's like uniquely unique where it's like you only have it on one day. And so you're like, well, this day I'm grateful for this, but if I was having this, you know, once a week, I'd be like, yeah, can we do something else?

[George Severis]

I mean, I was thinking about that in terms of stuffing. I was like, every year I have the thought, why don't we have this more often? And it's like. Because that's how it is.

[Jared Goff]

Yeah.

[George Severis]

And you can't. It's like, why isn't Jesus born more often? Cause he was born once.

[Jared Goff]

He was born once. And we celebrate him.

[George Severis]

And we celebrate him once a year on, well, twice.

[Jared Goff]

And Easter, of course. Well, and every Sunday, needless to say.

[George Severis]

And every Sunday, of course.

[Jared Goff]

Yeah, I had, as you know, I was Manic in Toronto. And then I went straight to Virginia, and I was feeling so east coast pilled. I was sort of like, damn, now this is a real place. Sorry, I always have to bring it back to there. But okay. I've been back in la and I keep looking around, I'm like, what the hell are we doing here? What is this place? Yesterday I went to see a movie and I was like, I mean, I live in a damn mall. This whole place is a damn mall.

[George Severis]

Well, where would you. I mean, it's funny, the movie is the thing that is shocking to you because to me, I'm like, well, you're indoors. You're in a movie theater. That's the one where you can just pretend you're in New York. Just pretend it's the Regal in New York.

[Jared Goff]

The way you can't pretend it doesn't feel like the Regal in New York. You cannot pretend. And, you know, trying to go to eat food before the movie, and you're like, well, everything I walk past is like, essentially a pret.

[George Severis]

Totally.

[Jared Goff]

So it's kind of a bummer.

[George Severis]

Cool.

[Jared Goff]

Yeah. But, you know, c'est la vie. I also, I have to say, I woke up today in a horrific, rancid mood. That.

[George Severis]

Why?

[Jared Goff]

Well, there's no reason for it. That's the worst part. It's just like, everything I'm taking issue with everything. I'm walking around, I'm like, huh, you know, I'm having one of those days.

[George Severis]

Totally. What an incredible time to bring our guest in. Let's see if she pisses you off.

[Jared Goff]

Yeah, that would be awesome. No, I think she's gonna lift me up like a thousand doves.

[George Severis]

Let's hope so. We're actually counting on it.

[Casey Jane Ellison]

It's really. My department is what pisses you off. That's where I live, baby. That's what I love.

[George Severis]

Do you feel like you're right and that's where you love and live and laugh?

[Jared Goff]

Of course.

[Casey Jane Ellison]

Yeah.

[George Severis]

Yeah.

[Casey Jane Ellison]

All of it.

[George Severis]

Would you say you are a positive person, Casey? Jane Ellison, please welcome.

[Jared Goff]

Please welcome to the podcast, Jane Ellison.

[Casey Jane Ellison]

Yeah, I am. I really, like, I believe. You know, I really am. I am perpetually disappointed.

[George Severis]

Yeah.

[Casey Jane Ellison]

But I am. But I am hopeful. And that's why I think, actually, that is an interesting.

[Jared Goff]

This sort of fits into George's whole worldview.

[George Severis]

I have a really big worldview that a lot of people are sort of have been latching onto, and it's been gaining traction, which is one of my main beliefs, is that pessimism is optimism. And optimism is pessimism, because I feel like you don't even have to go on. Exactly. But you know what I mean.

[Casey Jane Ellison]

Yes, I do.

[George Severis]

It's obvious.

[Casey Jane Ellison]

You're unrealistic. You're not listening.

[George Severis]

Exactly.

[Casey Jane Ellison]

You're not. You're just not here now. You're actually not here now.

[George Severis]

So you're not here now. And when people are like, oh, this person's so negative. This person is so cynical. It's like. Right. Because they have higher expectations for the world and high, high hopes for a living, to quote that song. And when someone is like. When someone is like, oh, my God, I love everything. Isn't it so amazing? It's. You're. You're literally so. What a depressing existence to not be able to imagine a great.

[Casey Jane Ellison]

You're a liar. You're lying to me.

[George Severis]

You're a liar.

[Casey Jane Ellison]

Well, yeah.

[George Severis]

A liar at best. At worst, someone who literally has no imagination and no, you know, no desires.

[Casey Jane Ellison]

Absolutely.

[Jared Goff]

Well, I always return to Lars von Schreier's Nymphomaniac, of course, where there's the monologue where it's like, some people just want more colors from the sunset, you know, more vibrant pinks, more beautiful oranges. And I'm like, yeah, that's me. It's just like, everything disappoints me because I dream bigger.

[Casey Jane Ellison]

Okay. I will have to interject at this point and say, please. That literally. Also gratitude.

[Jared Goff]

No, totally.

[Casey Jane Ellison]

Especially this Thanksgiving season.

[Jared Goff]

No, this Thanksgiving season, it's so important to be grateful.

[Casey Jane Ellison]

It's great to be aspirational and to want more and to be gay in that way.

[George Severis]

But totally.

[Casey Jane Ellison]

We also have to be like, the sun's doing an amazing job, and you could never. No offense, Sam.

[Jared Goff]

No, no, you're. You are right.

[Casey Jane Ellison]

You know what I'm saying?

[Jared Goff]

I. I'm at a confusing place with gratitude. I'm like. I'm sort of like. I don't know where it fits into my life. Like, right now, I. Such a place.

[Casey Jane Ellison]

Just try it right now. Just do it right now.

[George Severis]

Try it for once. Just try it just for one second. Maybe just stop complaining for one second. Have you tried that?

[Jared Goff]

Oh, my God, Sam, answer the question.

[Casey Jane Ellison]

What are you grateful for? Say it now.

[Jared Goff]

Don't even think I. I'm grateful to be a podcasting. I find it a fun way to express myself.

[George Severis]

Wow. Is that end of list or.

[Jared Goff]

I didn't know I had to have a list. I thought I was just saying Casey.

[George Severis]

Asked for one thing. I actually think. I'm not sure what the Best way to do this is. But I have long thought that these concepts of, like, gratitude, kindness, open heartedness, these concepts that are seen as so corny need to be reclaimed by the, like, cool community. You know what I mean?

[Jared Goff]

So you're essentially saying kindness punk.

[George Severis]

Kindness punks.

[Jared Goff]

But I actually wanted to actually catch.

[George Severis]

Yeah, but it's like. I mean, I hate to say it, but kindness punk was actually super corny and not cool. Like, we actually. We need it to come all the way back. It's like all the people that are like edgelord freaks need to embrace kindness as like a subversive thing to have. And generosity and gratitude. Thoughts?

[Casey Jane Ellison]

Yeah, I mean, absolutely.

[George Severis]

This is sort of. It's the ethos of, you know, rave culture. It's like, we are really cool because we are so open to community.

[Jared Goff]

It's very Burning Man.

[Casey Jane Ellison]

So many things happening to me right now. I'm thinking about. So wait, when did kindness punk happen? Did that ever happen?

[George Severis]

Or we're just thinking maybe that's so Kindness punk. It was part of the world of Chromatica during the Lady Gaga album Chromatica.

[Casey Jane Ellison]

Wait, during the pandemic?

[George Severis]

Yes. She invented the concept kindness punks and.

[Jared Goff]

It sort of like quickly abandoned it. I will.

[Casey Jane Ellison]

I don't remember that movement. Yeah, yeah.

[George Severis]

To call in a movement would be generous. Yeah, I. She sort of. It was part of the world building of Chromatica, which was a sort of outer space world that was giving colors.

[Casey Jane Ellison]

Gorgeous.

[Jared Goff]

The theme was colors. The theme was colors. It was most literally seen in the Stupid Love music video. And that's where the thing about kindness punks. There was like a title card about kindness punks.

[Casey Jane Ellison]

So is this kind of like sea punk? Like it had the same kind of color scheme or different. Different colors.

[George Severis]

There was a. There was definitely. It was bright pink, bright purple. Bright blue. That was the scheme. I would say it was a little.

[Jared Goff]

More elementary school than a little more.

[George Severis]

Elementary school meets streetwear.

[Jared Goff]

Yeah, streetwear. Cropped. Cropped yellow with big. Big pants.

[George Severis]

Yeah, big pants. Streetwear fonts shot on an iPhone.

[Casey Jane Ellison]

But was anyone wearing these clothes? Like, I didn't get out of sweats for two and a half years. Like, was anyone actually.

[Jared Goff]

Sweats actually did fit in. Sweats did fit in.

[George Severis]

There were sweats, actually, and they were green and pink, if I remember correctly.

[Jared Goff]

Yeah, yeah. Okay, let's fit into the universe.

[Casey Jane Ellison]

Okay, so what was the question? Kindness. We're doing that.

[George Severis]

How do we reclaim, like, how do we reclaim kindness, generosity, gratitude so that they're not concepts associated with like needle point pillows and corny, like, unfortunately, DNC speeches.

[Jared Goff]

Unfortunately, you have to commit to, like, ethical meanness.

[George Severis]

Okay.

[Jared Goff]

Because you. It's just about, like, genuinely listening and taking in everything as it comes and being like, does this need to be critiqued or does it not?

[George Severis]

Yes, yes, yes, yes.

[Jared Goff]

Because it's like, sometimes people are mean unnecessarily and, like, vengefully and just, like, taking something else out. And sometimes you're like, well, that. That deserves, like, a little slap on the wrist because it's like, what you're doing right now is frustrating.

[Casey Jane Ellison]

And I was gonna say that unfortunately, like, part of being kind is, like, being an. You have to be a loser. Like, you have to be okay with, like, being dorky in a certain way because it's. It is actually fun. Like, if you maybe cool. I don't know what that is or something, but it's like. Yeah, cool can be super lame, actually, if you're so concerned.

[George Severis]

Well, certainly. Certainly chasing cool. Yeah, chasing cool is very lame.

[Casey Jane Ellison]

But also being.

[George Severis]

So Maybe you just have to, like.

[Casey Jane Ellison]

Being above it, Being, like, cool. Like, I think you're. You're talking about, like, cool, where you're just like, everything's kind of like, all right. Like, that's. Yeah. Like, just. Is that kind of it, or. Yeah. Yeah.

[George Severis]

So you're saying that's lame because you're not letting.

[Casey Jane Ellison]

You're not getting involved. You're not getting involved, but it's. Yeah.

[George Severis]

You're not living.

[Casey Jane Ellison]

Yeah.

[George Severis]

Yeah.

[Casey Jane Ellison]

So I think your values have to change. Like, for what cool actually is. Because I think.

[George Severis]

Yeah.

[Casey Jane Ellison]

Like, I'm trying to think, what's the coolest thing I've ever seen? And was it kind?

[George Severis]

Yeah.

[Casey Jane Ellison]

And was it kind?

[George Severis]

Wow.

[Casey Jane Ellison]

Yeah.

[George Severis]

Wait. First of all, I love the question. What is the coolest thing I've ever seen?

[Jared Goff]

The coolest thing I've ever seen?

[Casey Jane Ellison]

Oh, I think it was Greece. Like, I still think the musical. Yeah, I think it was John Travolta in Greece, and I think that wasn't that cool. Actually, when you think about it, it was, like, the best thing on earth. But I don't know if it's cool. Like, it's so beautiful.

[George Severis]

Yeah. Yeah.

[Casey Jane Ellison]

Okay, I lost you guys.

[Jared Goff]

No, no, no.

[Casey Jane Ellison]

I'm. I'm.

[George Severis]

You know what? My mind. I don't know why, but I'm immediately going to Robin Williams. I'm like. The coolest thing I've ever seen is at his peak. He reached such a stride where, when he was on stage, it was just. I mean, he was also on so much cocaine. But when he was on stage it was just like he was breezing through. And then when he was off stage, it was just like head to toe. Issey Miyake. Like so just like constantly with like three completely random people. It would be like one model, one, you know, international social justice activist and one democratic politician. And they would all be having martinis. That's like what Robin Williams's life was like throughout the 90s.

[Jared Goff]

Sure, sure.

[Casey Jane Ellison]

Wait, I just realized, did you contextualize me at all in this interview or did we just immediately start like chatting?

[Jared Goff]

Thank you for sort of a comedy.

[Casey Jane Ellison]

Chat because I'm actually on the clock right now and I need to like.

[George Severis]

Okay, you are promoting the way you have domed us throughout this process. I'm talking.

[Casey Jane Ellison]

I told you, I'm in rehearsal mode right now. So like it's not a joke.

[George Severis]

First you're like, okay, I want to promote my show. You were like, oh my God, amazing. We can't wait to have you. Then 30 minutes before recording, you were like, can I take this call from a car? We were like, no, actually, then we're like, we're actually going to do a quick intro and then bring you in. And you're like, can we just not do that?

[Jared Goff]

This is.

[George Severis]

And now we're literally doing the podcast and you're like, I'm sorry, I'm. Can you please introduce me properly?

[Casey Jane Ellison]

Okay, this is like a sign of unhappiness. Is controlling. Is being overly controlling.

[George Severis]

Right? No, but I get it's funny because. No, it's funny because I so see it from your perspective. Like you are, you are promoting, you're trying to sell tickets.

[Casey Jane Ellison]

Well, no, well, it's sold out. But we just added. We just really. I should just. Let's cut it, let's just cut it.

[Jared Goff]

No, this is actually so good.

[George Severis]

Casey, we would love to hear about the sold out show you are promoting in Los Angeles.

[Casey Jane Ellison]

Wait, you guys. It's sold out, but we added a new show on another show on Saturday at 5pm in Los Angeles at the new theater.

[George Severis]

Uh huh.

[Casey Jane Ellison]

We haven't seen.

[George Severis]

What is it called?

[Casey Jane Ellison]

It's called It's My Sister, written by Casey Jane Ellison, written by and starring moi. And yeah, it's a one woman kind of play and it's the premise.

[George Severis]

Okay, yeah, I actually would love to get into the premise because I have been very curious about this because I was just telling you before Sam got on the call that I think more people in our community need to do fictional solo Shows. I have had enough, I repeat enough, of the sort of Edinburgh trauma plot. Like, one time when I was 12, I looked out the window and it was snowing. And that's when I realized, you know, I was a snowman.

[Jared Goff]

George. I'm crying, though. That was powerful, though.

[Casey Jane Ellison]

Yeah, that's a great. That sounds good, though.

[Jared Goff]

Yeah. Let's start.

[Casey Jane Ellison]

So the twist is, he's a snowman.

[George Severis]

And again, that's why it's good, because it's fictional. Because that would never happen in real life. If you gave me a trauma plot and it was that you were a snowman, then I'm listening. But if the trauma plot is, like, I had a difficult relationship with my mother, join the club.

[Casey Jane Ellison]

Well, I have to say that I'm sorry to disappoint, but there is tons of trauma in this story.

[George Severis]

Well, yeah, obviously. Obviously. Otherwise it wouldn't be a solo show. But I'm saying it's not you coming out and being like, when I was six. So tell. So say more. What is it?

[Casey Jane Ellison]

So the premise is, the whole show is a phone call between two sisters that haven't spoken in five years. So, like, you meet sister, the first sister, and then she gets a phone call from her sister, who she hasn't spoken to in years, and you hear, like, just her side of the conversation, and you end up real. You have. You end up learning what happened to them, why they haven't spoken. And then I play the second sister, and you hear her side, but it's like another. It's like later in the phone call, you don't hear the whole thing again.

[George Severis]

So it's like, oh, you're hearing one side of the phone call at a time.

[Casey Jane Ellison]

Yes. It's like analog play. You're hearing the phone call from one sister's side and then the other sister's side at a time. So you hear both sides of an incredible fictional story.

[Jared Goff]

Wow.

[Casey Jane Ellison]

Yeah.

[Jared Goff]

And what are the dates that this is happening again?

[Casey Jane Ellison]

It's December.

[George Severis]

Not that it matters, because guess what? It's sold out.

[Jared Goff]

No, there's a new night, George.

[Casey Jane Ellison]

Hey, there's standby as well. And, like, this is a really cool new theater called the New Theater Hollywood. And it's like, well, you know, we might get you in. You know, like, it's kind of like. It's arty, it's Hollywood. You know, you never know. So if you show up and you want to see, we'll make it work. No, I can't say. I can't say that widespread. But you know what? I'm talking be cool about it, everybody.

[George Severis]

Do you think that theater could ever truly catch on in Los Angeles?

[Casey Jane Ellison]

Girl, Yes, I. I think. Have you, like, the.

[George Severis]

Because this is exciting to me. Like, the fact that you're, like, the fact that you're doing this, it's like, how fun. And there's a new theater and, like, what if everyone started doing more of this stuff? What if we stopped trying to make clowning happen and actually build a theater community that's sustainable in the city of Los Angeles?

[Casey Jane Ellison]

Sorry, Sam, go ahead.

[Jared Goff]

Well, sorry. I have one of the more. Maybe you say what you're gonna say and then I have an insane take to say after that because mine kind of changes the subject slightly.

[Casey Jane Ellison]

My point is, like, I think that everything that's happening, like, with people being clowning and all that, it's all building. Like, we're building an actual enterprise where we all can bring skills to maybe, like, the future of theater. And, like, it's all. I think it's sticking. Like, I think it's gonna. It's already huge. It's like, look what happened, you know, with Jeremy O. Harris and Cole and, like, Kate Berlanso. It's like everybody. Everything is, like, sticking to itself. And it's a big. It's a big moment.

[George Severis]

No, I definitely think overall theater is having a great moment. I'm saying Los Angeles.

[Casey Jane Ellison]

I see your point.

[George Severis]

I have a show started in Los Angeles.

[Jared Goff]

That's true. Okay, here's my weird theory that I want you to both comment on.

[Casey Jane Ellison]

Okay. What?

[Jared Goff]

There's more musical theater gays in LA than in New York.

[Casey Jane Ellison]

Yes.

[George Severis]

Well, that's because they're dumber.

[Jared Goff]

No, but literally, I think. Yeah, that's true, though, because you would think they can see Broadway in New York, so they'd be in New York, but it's like, it's actually way more common to be musical theater gay in la.

[Casey Jane Ellison]

I mean, you're talking to a lot. Did you know that? I'm from la? I'm born and raised in Hollywood, California. Did you know that?

[Jared Goff]

Oh, I don't think I knew that about you.

[Casey Jane Ellison]

So you're talking.

[George Severis]

I know that about you. No, first of all, I just want to be clear. I know I've been very, like, jokingly anti la. I actually love. I, like, I have grown to really appreciate la. I just still love making fun of it because it's very fun.

[Casey Jane Ellison]

It is fun. And I agree with what you're saying. It's a confusing place. It's like we have everything and there's no friction, and that makes people really uncomfortable. And then also it's like we live in a bubble. But it's also really rude here. Like, people are so uncomfortable here because they don't have practice. Like, there's no practice, you know, chit chat. There's no coochie coo. There's no. There's no, like, rhythm here. So it's like everyone's like, excuse me, what, are you calling the police? Like, it's just like. There's just. We are just too. We're awkward here, but we are, like in a good mood or something. So it's a very weird thingy, you.

[George Severis]

Know, I actually think the no rhythm thing is really unlocking something that I think has been missing in my theory of Los Angeles. I think you're absolutely right. It's like the.

[Jared Goff]

That's.

[George Severis]

That is the root of all. The kind of. The root of all the miscommunication about the ethos of Los Angeles is that at any given point when you're starting an interaction with someone, you are basically interrupting the solo show that is their life. They are starring in a film. And when you are saying, would you like oat or whole. Their brain is exploding because this is not part of a consistent series of interactions they're having during the day.

[Casey Jane Ellison]

It's an interruption. It's hard.

[Jared Goff]

And I think they're jumpier.

[Casey Jane Ellison]

They're. I'm so jumpy. I grew up jumpy because it's like. Yeah, it's really jumpy because you're like, that's just. You're going with a literal dry breeze. That's the rhythm of L. A. Across the plain, the desert, into the ocean. Like, that's the rhythm of L. A. And then someone's like, you want oat or almond? It's like, what are you trying to say? What are you saying to me? Don't talk to me this way. And then you have. You have to, like, yeah, you have to do a lot.

[George Severis]

And then you have to do a sound bath like that. It's like, then that happens to you. And yes, you have just like a series of. Basically, you are going through this frictionless existence and every interaction you have with another human or a business or, you know, any kind of, like, other entity is a trauma. So then at the end of the day, it's like, oh, someone's punching me here, someone's slapping me here. Someone's, you know, shooting a little, you know, rubber bullet to my forehead. This is just ordering coffee, by the way. And then by the time you get home, you're like, well, I have to do something to fix all the. All the trauma and all the bruises I have on my body from living a life. And that's how you get into Scientology.

[Casey Jane Ellison]

Yes. And the. The dry breeze just hits a wall, and it's the blue building of the Scientology. It's. It's actually like from Pasadena to the ocean Scientology. You hit it on the way. Yeah, yeah, I know.

[Jared Goff]

Yeah.

[Casey Jane Ellison]

It's kind of beautiful.

[George Severis]

But then it's. But then it's like, it's unfair that then someone, an outsider, looks at that and is like, oh, they're so out of touch because they're all doing sound baths and having green smoothies. And it's like, yeah, that's because they have to heal.

[Jared Goff]

I saw a man take over upwards of 20 minutes to order breakfast this morning in a way that I didn't like. If. If someone. If there was like a bomb about to go off. And it was like, the only way to stop this bomb from going off is to, like, make this interaction last longer. I couldn't make it last that long.

[Casey Jane Ellison]

It's like Speed. It's like Speed the movie, but just ordering breakfast.

[Jared Goff]

Ends. The bomb will go off.

[Casey Jane Ellison]

You have to keep the tempo of the conversation, like, that minute, like, that mundane. Keep it calm. Yeah.

[Jared Goff]

Otherwise the bomb is going to blow. And this guy was like, would have succeed. It was like, I've never seen anything like it. And I was like, I feel like I'm on a different planet, like, to. To extend this interaction this long. In a way, it made me so angry, and that was, like, unjustified. This is part of my rancid mood. And I. I was like, I'm not built for this place.

[Casey Jane Ellison]

Are you from. Where are you from? Vermont, you said.

[Jared Goff]

I'm from the Midwest. And Virginia.

[Casey Jane Ellison]

Virginia. Excuse me. Which.

[Jared Goff]

We're in the Midwest, like, mostly Michigan, but also a little bit Ohio and Indiana.

[George Severis]

But I think the reason you're not built for it is not because you're from the Midwest. It's because you spent all of your adulthood in New York.

[Jared Goff]

Yeah, Yeah, I.

[Casey Jane Ellison]

You know what's crazy? You said that, because it's just. It's a citywide thing. I was behind this woman ordering, like, 29 barechas or whatever. And it's like. Then the cashier was like, wait, do you want them in individual bags? And she was like, yeah. And then he was like, are you sure you don't want them in sep. In the same box? I can get them off.

[George Severis]

Yes.

[Casey Jane Ellison]

And then she was like, yeah, maybe I want it separate. Maybe I want them separately in separate boxes. And then he goes, are you sure you don't want them? Maybe I can put them in bags and then a box. And then she was like, yeah, maybe. It just, like, kept being a discussion. And I was like, wow, the Lord is testing me, and I am.

[Jared Goff]

Yeah.

[Casey Jane Ellison]

But this is like, yes, this is as good as life is.

[George Severis]

This is the. This goes back to every interaction being a trauma. It's like the. The cons. The experience of ordering the Barekas in New York would be just like, something you do as part of, like, the 15 things you do in. In your morning. Right. So you're just. Your goal is to get it done as quickly as possible so you can go deliver them to the big client.

[Casey Jane Ellison]

Yeah.

[George Severis]

But in Los Angeles, the. The interaction of ordering them starts, and you're like, oh, perfect. This is the main event ordering.

[Jared Goff]

Yeah. Now it's my time to shine.

[George Severis]

Now it's my time. Like, this is ordering, and I better get this right.

[Jared Goff]

I. I even think part of the. Part of my triggered response is that this, to me, is essential. Like, Midwestern. Like, when people don't know what to talk about and they can't connect emotionally, they're like, okay, let's talk logistics for the next hour.

[George Severis]

Yeah.

[Jared Goff]

Like, it'll be like, oh, how did you. Oh, you took 65. Oh, okay. Was there traffic? Oh, well, I heard the Walmart over there is closing soon. Oh, actually, no. They were adding a grocery center, and it's like, just the most mundane nothing. It's like, how about you just say, like, I haven't talked to my mother in 10 years, and, like, I'm so lonely. Like, just let's get into it. And everyone just wants to talk mundane, mundane, mundane, mundane here and there as well.

[Casey Jane Ellison]

That could be fun. It's just weird how, like, I guess that's like a stradio lab issue is, like, you can talk about, like, really, like, you know which charger it is. And, like, is it gif or is it gif? Like, you can do that, but it's like, you can put a twist on it. It can be fun. It can be.

[George Severis]

You're sort of like, you're reclaiming small talk in the way that you have already reclaimed kindness and gratitude.

[Casey Jane Ellison]

I love small talk.

[Jared Goff]

Well, I love. And I want to be clear. I love small talk. Just, like, when it's like, someone you should be able to emotionally connect with. Like, if it's like a cashier, it's like, sure, like, have a little pleasant interaction. But if it's like your uncle who's known you since you were a baby, like, you should be able to talk about something.

[Casey Jane Ellison]

Sure. Well, actually, it's interesting. So the guy, the cashier or the barista was, like, creating this mountain out of a molehill of. Of barechas, like, in the containers. And then when it was my turn, I went up and I was like, you have, like. I was, like, holding it in, but I had an intimate thing to say to him, which was like, you have, like, a little bit of something, like, on your head. And he was like, oh, shit. And I was like, no, it's, like, fine. Like no one noticed, but, you know. And, like, we did have an intimate moment. And I was, like, locked and loaded with it because I was appalled at the lack of intimacy with this insane conversation that was about care, but it actually wasn't about care. It was just wasting paper and time. And then when I told him about his thing, he got knocked off his game. But I think, what's your policy, by the way? Would you tell a stranger about something on their.

[George Severis]

That he had something on his forehead.

[Jared Goff]

If it were a stranger? I think I would not. I think I would not. If it were a stranger, I don't.

[George Severis]

Think I would either.

[Casey Jane Ellison]

But it's like the long.

[George Severis]

Which is not to say that I think I'm right.

[Casey Jane Ellison]

20.

[George Severis]

No, I think you did the right.

[Casey Jane Ellison]

After person after person. And it was getting longer with the.

[George Severis]

Barechas thing, of course, needless to say. But I think. I think.

[Jared Goff]

Were you in Safi's?

[Casey Jane Ellison]

Yes. Was that you?

[Jared Goff]

No, it wasn't me.

[Casey Jane Ellison]

Wait, was there someone else ordering? Were you there?

[Jared Goff]

I wasn't there, but I was like, if I know a line and I know Barca's, it's going to be at Safi's.

[Casey Jane Ellison]

There you go. You clocked it. Shout Out Sapphi's.

[George Severis]

No. Shout out.

[Jared Goff]

Shout Out Safies.

[Casey Jane Ellison]

I live for the Earl Gray latte. I. Wow. I'm saying that without any endorsement, like, any check at all.

[Jared Goff]

No, but Saffy should give us special treatment when we go. From now on.

[George Severis]

Let's rush through our first segment so that we can get to the meat of your topic.

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[Ryan Seacrest]

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[George Severis]

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[Jared Goff]

Good point. Our first segment is called Straight Shooters. And in this segment we're going to ask you a series of rapid fire questions to gauge your familiarity with and complicity in straight culture. It's basically this thing or this other thing and the only rule is you can't ask any follow up questions or we will get so upset at you that.

[Casey Jane Ellison]

But I already do have questions. What am I supposed to say exactly?

[George Severis]

Sam, go.

[Jared Goff]

Okay. Arrested development or caressing a gentleman?

[Casey Jane Ellison]

Arrested Development.

[George Severis]

Getting the ick or eating a dick?

[Casey Jane Ellison]

Eating a dick.

[Jared Goff]

Okay. Face tattoo or Mace Windu?

[Casey Jane Ellison]

What was the third? Oh, no follow ups. Even if I don't even understand the question, what was it? The first one.

[George Severis]

You're on thin ice getting a tattoo.

[Casey Jane Ellison]

That one.

[Jared Goff]

Face tattoo. Okay.

[George Severis]

Okay. Casey, Mid century modern decor or she dyed her hair auburn. J'adore.

[Casey Jane Ellison]

This one's hard.

[George Severis]

Yes.

[Casey Jane Ellison]

The auburn.

[George Severis]

Yeah, yeah.

[Jared Goff]

Fish fry or CIS guy?

[Casey Jane Ellison]

Oh, fish fry.

[George Severis]

Obviously buying an American girl doll. Or side eyeing an arrogant girl at the mall.

[Casey Jane Ellison]

The side eye.

[Jared Goff]

Male pattern baldness or female chatter in the office.

[Casey Jane Ellison]

Female chatter in the office.

[George Severis]

Okay. Keeping your friends close, keeping your enemies closer or keeping your eyes peeled for that bitch Jessica because you know she's always up to fucking something.

[Casey Jane Ellison]

Probably the last one.

[Jared Goff]

Yeah.

[George Severis]

Wow.

[Jared Goff]

Wow.

[George Severis]

You did a really good job.

[Casey Jane Ellison]

Am I straight?

[Jared Goff]

You did a really good job.

[George Severis]

I think you did a really, really good job. And I actually think I really appreciated that for all of them you went with the edgiest one.

[Casey Jane Ellison]

I do. Do I like edgy?

[Jared Goff]

Yeah, yeah, yeah. And you know, we are sort of flip flopping between different scales right now.

[Casey Jane Ellison]

Okay.

[George Severis]

But normally, basically post election, it's been really difficult to decide what the future of the segment is because we think there's been a really intense shift in the vibe across the country.

[Jared Goff]

Yeah. But that being said, I think I'm going to go ahead and give you so 890 doves.

[George Severis]

Out of a thousand.

[Jared Goff]

Out of a thousand.

[Casey Jane Ellison]

That's good.

[George Severis]

Congratulations.

[Casey Jane Ellison]

B plus.

[George Severis]

Oh, that is not the kind of scale we're talking about. This is not school. This is art.

[Casey Jane Ellison]

Thank you. When do I get my doves? How many doves? Are they delivered?

[Jared Goff]

Okay, they're in the mail.

[George Severis]

They're hand delivered, one by one.

[Casey Jane Ellison]

Dove bars or dove.

[George Severis]

Yes, actually dove deodorant. Where it's little travel size. Dove deodorants.

[Jared Goff]

Yeah.

[Casey Jane Ellison]

Okay. I don't. Okay, I'll take it.

[Jared Goff]

You don't.

[George Severis]

Unscented. Don't worry.

[Jared Goff]

Don't worry.

[Casey Jane Ellison]

I might.

[Jared Goff]

Oh, that's okay.

[George Severis]

Well, people, your community will love 892 unscented Dove deodorants.

[Jared Goff]

And the holidays are just around the corner.

[George Severis]

And the holidays are just around the corner. We're actually. We're releasing our gift guide soon. It's a bunch of things that are dove branded of different kinds.

[Casey Jane Ellison]

Wait, isn't there a dove soap? No, Dawn.

[George Severis]

Yes, there's definitely dove soap.

[Casey Jane Ellison]

There's also dove soap, but the body. No, I meant like dish soap soap. Does dove dish soap.

[George Severis]

No, that's Dawn. That's Don.

[Jared Goff]

Yeah, that's Dawn.

[George Severis]

But you know, you could just use dove body soap for your dishes. I'm sure it would make them extra, extra smooth.

[Jared Goff]

That's true.

[Casey Jane Ellison]

Don.

[Jared Goff]

Is the soap I used to wash oil. What?

[Casey Jane Ellison]

I felt like I was being led down a. Like I was being proven down a case that I was gonna be upset about, but I think I did well, so I'm just recovering from that.

[Jared Goff]

Yeah. It can be really frustrating to be asked a question and not know why you're being asked the question.

[George Severis]

Yeah. And it's like. Is like, are. Am I being tricked? Am I. But what I appreciated about your performance was that you never strayed from your plan, which was to pick the edgiest one.

[Casey Jane Ellison]

Well, I just went with what my heart said.

[George Severis]

Yeah. Which I think is what you should do.

[Casey Jane Ellison]

Yeah. And also what I'm in the mood for. Like, I'm in the mood for a fish fry, not a guy.

[George Severis]

No.

[Jared Goff]

Yeah, we do it for.

[George Severis]

Someone comes to your door and they're saying, do you want a fish fry or a CIS guy? Who is going to pick CIS guy?

[Casey Jane Ellison]

It depends on the guy. Who's the guy?

[Jared Goff]

I mean, can we see him?

[Casey Jane Ellison]

Yeah. Let's get.

[George Severis]

It was. That's true. I guess if it was, you know, Paul Hollywood, then of course, if it.

[Jared Goff]

Was you, say, come on.

[Casey Jane Ellison]

Say, let's go. Get in here.

[Jared Goff]

Get in.

[George Severis]

Okay. So Casey we would love to know what your straight topic is for the day and what is straight about it.

[Casey Jane Ellison]

Okay, well, I kind of was sneaky because I just have to undermine and be edgy.

[George Severis]

It's sort of amazing.

[Casey Jane Ellison]

Thank you. Yeah, I'm slippery, but okay, the topic is sisters, but you know what I'm saying?

[George Severis]

Well, of course you're, you know. The topic is a tie in. It's a collab, if you will, with your sold out solo show.

[Casey Jane Ellison]

It's a plug. But it's also very straight. I feel like sisters are always like, like, imagine a, a boy, a guy, he has a sister. Like, can you imagine something so more straight than. More straight than that.

[George Severis]

Yeah.

[Casey Jane Ellison]

Then imagine like a girl, she has a sister that's. That's very straight too. But imagine, imagine just like another girl.

[George Severis]

Yeah.

[Casey Jane Ellison]

Imagine a sister, she has a sister that's gay. Do you know what I'm saying?

[Jared Goff]

Wow.

[Casey Jane Ellison]

When you think about that for sure.

[Jared Goff]

Then when the sister has a sister.

[George Severis]

When a sister more removed, the more removed from the main character you get, the gayer it gets.

[Casey Jane Ellison]

Maybe, maybe. I'm not sure I'm going to confirm that.

[George Severis]

To me. Here's to me. What's straight about sisters as a topic?

[Casey Jane Ellison]

Okay, tell me.

[George Severis]

When there is a family and it's four, the kids are four girls and they're all blonde. Or like three of them are blonde and one is a brunette. And even though they're all basically identical, the brunette is like the crazy one and everyone's like, she's brainy, she wears glasses. Like, oh my God, she's like kind of ugly.

[Jared Goff]

Yeah. You're also, you're thinking in sort of a bad sisters way.

[George Severis]

Yes, yes, I'm definitely thinking about, but also just like, you know those families where it's just like four girls and they are all, even if they're not Christian, the vibe is Christian. They're all wearing, you know, little sundresses. As soon as they each hit 27, they start having kids. Then it's like a big family. We're talking kind of a lavender, maybe knit cardigan.

[Jared Goff]

Here's what's straight about it to me is the four sisters in particular.

[George Severis]

Yeah.

[Jared Goff]

When there's four sisters, immediately it becomes there's like an implied competition of like, we have to get married.

[George Severis]

Yes.

[Jared Goff]

Like, I think there's a, there's like an assumption of like, well, where's the man here? We have to get married. I guess I'm thinking Pride and Prejudice.

[George Severis]

I was literally about to say it's so Jane Austen. Yes.

[Jared Goff]

Yeah, yeah.

[George Severis]

It's so Pride and Prejudice.

[Casey Jane Ellison]

It's so like dowry coded.

[George Severis]

Dowry.

[Casey Jane Ellison]

There's a lot of dowry. We've got to split up.

[George Severis]

Yes. There are limited resources here.

[Casey Jane Ellison]

Yeah. There's not.

[George Severis]

There's not enough dowry.

[Jared Goff]

And God forbid the father is ill, then what.

[George Severis]

Oh, my God.

[Casey Jane Ellison]

And also, what's gonna happen with the sheep.

[Jared Goff]

Yes.

[George Severis]

By the way, I don't even have to say it. Little women.

[Jared Goff]

Little women.

[George Severis]

Folks, folks. Little women.

[Jared Goff]

Little women. Two words. Little women.

[George Severis]

Here's what it is.

[Casey Jane Ellison]

This is what's also straight about that. So when you go into that where there's the four sisters, but actually, like, some of them are subversive and some of them are like career and more genius style girls, then there's still one. A man.

[George Severis]

Exactly. This is exactly.

[Casey Jane Ellison]

And that makes them still like, well, is it a man or is it my book?

[George Severis]

Yeah.

[Casey Jane Ellison]

And it's like, that's an issue, you.

[George Severis]

Know, the false promise of, like, diversity within the sister community. Like, it sets up.

[Casey Jane Ellison]

Watch your mouth. Watch your mouth.

[George Severis]

It sets up this.

[Casey Jane Ellison]

Like you're.

[George Severis]

You're watching where. Oh, one of them can.

[Jared Goff]

Wait.

[George Severis]

What?

[Casey Jane Ellison]

No, just like, be. We're edging into misogyny. Just want to alarm.

[George Severis]

No, no, no, no, no, no, no.

[Casey Jane Ellison]

Which is straight.

[George Severis]

First of all, Casey, I get it.

[Casey Jane Ellison]

I get it.

[George Severis]

First of all, you. A woman is not going to tell me when I'm edging into misogyny. I'm going to decide when I'm edging into misogyny.

[Casey Jane Ellison]

It's true.

[George Severis]

But it's like if you have little women and if you have the. If you have. Oh, by the way, Bronte sisters. Not even gonna get into that one. But this is also an example.

[Jared Goff]

Interesting.

[Casey Jane Ellison]

This era comes up.

[George Severis]

Yeah. You can be the brainy one, you can be the slutty one, you can be the smart one or the dumb one. But the fact that at the end of the day it all. Everyone's still looking for a husband, it's almost like you're reaching the limits of heterosexuality.

[Casey Jane Ellison]

Yeah. I mean, I get it. I kind of want a wife. I do. I mean, I totally kind of. Like, I definitely do. I get it comes down to that. The straight, like, married thing. But even when you're gay.

[Jared Goff]

Yeah.

[Casey Jane Ellison]

But this is interesting that you guys went to corsets with sisters.

[George Severis]

Yeah, yeah.

[Casey Jane Ellison]

Historically.

[Jared Goff]

No, it is notable.

[George Severis]

You were thinking. Because I know I changed. Like, when you were describing it, it was much more. It was different. It was like the concept of having a sister is straight.

[Casey Jane Ellison]

I Was thinking more contemporary, like, where's your sister? Like, did you pick her up? Or like, I don't know where the fuck she is. Or like, she's always late or.

[Jared Goff]

Or even like, don't talk to my sister like that.

[Casey Jane Ellison]

Exactly. Yeah, let me talk to my sister. Put her on the phone like that. Like. Yeah, like some kind of thing. An older sister is, like, mad and trying to get in touch. Someone's in trouble. Someone, like, needs to be picked up. It's usually about getting picked up. Or dropped off.

[George Severis]

Or dropped off. That's right.

[Casey Jane Ellison]

And then.

[Jared Goff]

Well, your sister has practice and.

[Casey Jane Ellison]

Right, yeah, somebody has practice.

[Jared Goff]

So you can't go hang out with your friends because I went suburban with.

[Casey Jane Ellison]

Them, which wasn't even my life. Like, I don't know why.

[Jared Goff]

This is interesting. We're doing sort of a Rorschach test of just, like, saying the word sister and being like, where does it take you? Where does it take you?

[George Severis]

Yeah.

[Casey Jane Ellison]

And then immediately. I mean, the show's called It's My Sister, which I think is. You know what the reference is? Like, it's my sister.

[Jared Goff]

Like, oh, like when you see it on the phone. Yeah, yeah.

[Casey Jane Ellison]

It's like that.

[George Severis]

That's good. Yeah.

[Casey Jane Ellison]

And then it's. It's my sister. It's like. It's a blame thing. It's like, it's my sister. And also it just sounds. Whatever. I'm just giving myself compliments. It's a great. It's a great turn of phrase. But also I'm reminded of Paris is Burning. Like, that's my sister.

[Jared Goff]

Sure, sure.

[Casey Jane Ellison]

And sisters. It's like sis, the sister. I got all my sisters with me. It's like, it's family.

[George Severis]

Sure. Well, I will say, obviously, sisters, when you divorce it from biological family, gets more complicated because the term sisters has a different valence in queer communities and black communities. In, like, drag. It does it. It then becomes much more complicated, which I think is why both Sam and I went to Corset it.

[Casey Jane Ellison]

So you didn't want to go there?

[George Severis]

Because I think that then if you do. If you do the, like, non biological sister, what that is doing is taking the strength of these heterosexual sister ties and applying it to your chosen family.

[Casey Jane Ellison]

Yes.

[Jared Goff]

Which is powerful.

[George Severis]

Which is.

[Casey Jane Ellison]

So I did undermine the assignment. Yeah. I mean, I don't think the word sister in its. In itself, what it is, is a straight word. It just.

[George Severis]

Right. It's. It's having a sister.

[Casey Jane Ellison]

It's having a sister. Exactly. And it's a beautiful thing. It's Such a. It's a community word. It's a word that means community. And tension. A lot of tension.

[Jared Goff]

Yeah. There's something about saying sister, like, where it is even, like, you're still married to the. The family element. You're like, before, she is Rebecca, she's a sister. Because you could just be like, oh, it's Rebecca. And instead you're like, it's my sister.

[George Severis]

Yeah. No, I. This is actually so exactly it. Because I find myself sometimes saying that about one of my sisters to someone who knows one of them. Like, I could so easily be like, that's, you know, Margaret. That's not my sister's name. But that's, you know, you. You could so easily say her name. Yeah, Say her name. And instead it's. It's like. Like, I am. I want to reaffirm that she is only what she is in relation to me. And in that way, I am subjugating women by calling them sister instead of calling them by their names.

[Casey Jane Ellison]

Absolutely.

[Jared Goff]

Wow.

[Casey Jane Ellison]

Absolutely.

[Jared Goff]

Wow.

[George Severis]

And so that, I think, makes it more straight. It's like, it's. Honestly, I'm sorry, but it's like saying wife, like, the way that wife is so inherently misogynist because you are taking a woman and defining her by her.

[Casey Jane Ellison]

I have to take what you're saying and then give it, like, the positive twist, because I'm a positive person.

[George Severis]

Of course.

[Casey Jane Ellison]

It's like to. To call someone your sister or your wife. That's my wife. It's like you're. You're claiming a stake in it. Yes. It can be territorial, but it's personal. It means. Personal. It means we have a history. It's like. It's like, whatever it is, you might not know what me and my sister is about, but there's a lot. It's everything, actually.

[George Severis]

Yes.

[Casey Jane Ellison]

So there is something. Yes. Like, I. I get what you're saying, but don't. Don't diminish yourself in that relationship, George.

[George Severis]

That's true.

[Casey Jane Ellison]

Because when you're saying that and you're staking a claim, you're actually saying, like, I exist too, in that.

[George Severis]

Right. Because, of course, she's my sister. What's the corollary of that? I'm her brother.

[Casey Jane Ellison]

Don't mean to gender, but. Yes, you are.

[George Severis]

And I'm actually.

[Casey Jane Ellison]

You're also her sister.

[George Severis]

I'm also her sister.

[Jared Goff]

That's true. Because you're gay.

[George Severis]

Well, yes, but also because having a sister, as much as we've already discussed, it's a straight thing. But also to have a Sister makes you a little bit of a sister yourself.

[Casey Jane Ellison]

Absolutely.

[George Severis]

In order to reach across the aisle and have a sister, you have to have sisterly attributes. Otherwise, it will never work. If you're just a brother, and you are firmly a brother, and you refuse to be anything but a brother, you're never gonna actually have a relationship with your sister. A brother has to be a little bit of a sister, and a sister has to be a little bit of a brother.

[Casey Jane Ellison]

I've never had a brother, and I don't. I'm zero percent bro.

[George Severis]

Yeah.

[Jared Goff]

Wow. Yeah.

[Casey Jane Ellison]

Do you guys think that, by the.

[Jared Goff]

Way, that you're 0% bro?

[George Severis]

I don't think you're bro. I don't know about 0%.

[Jared Goff]

I think you're like. To me, what comes at the forefront of you is like, city, city, child.

[George Severis]

You know? What I'm getting from you is, like.

[Casey Jane Ellison]

What is that? Like, biblically?

[George Severis]

Is that.

[Casey Jane Ellison]

Like that. Who's the archetype?

[Jared Goff]

I'm not super familiar with Bible references, unfortunately.

[Casey Jane Ellison]

It sounds Jesus.

[Jared Goff]

No, to me. It's funny that we were talking about cool stuff at the beginning, because to me, you're, like, the essential cool girl.

[George Severis]

Girl. And I actually think the lack of brothers ties into that, because I think of you as, like, there's something sort of like. Like, you live in a matriarchy.

[Casey Jane Ellison]

I do well.

[Jared Goff]

And this whole thing, I'm actually. I'm feeling more comfortable now. At the beginning, I was like, let's feel out the vibe more.

[Casey Jane Ellison]

Yeah.

[Jared Goff]

I think there's something about your, like, kindness thing that is very real, where you are both very cool and kind, and that makes it, like, the kindness is almost like, whoa. I didn't think she was gonna be nice to me. Like, she's actually very nice in a way. That's like a cool, disarming thing you can do.

[Casey Jane Ellison]

I know. I would. I don't know what else to do. Like. But anyway, let's move. I mean. Yeah, that's. That's true. That's me.

[Jared Goff]

Yeah.

[Casey Jane Ellison]

George.

[Jared Goff]

What? Okay.

[Casey Jane Ellison]

You look like.

[George Severis]

No, nothing.

[Casey Jane Ellison]

You're pregnant right now. We want to say something first.

[George Severis]

Well, I'm. I'm part sister, so of course that can happen. Pregnancy. No, no, I. I don't. I was. I'm still thinking about, like, what it means for you, you know? Cause I also don't have a brother. I guess you could say I am a brother. You are, But I like the idea. I'm thinking about.

[Jared Goff]

You're. Okay, but you're a brother. But you're also the dad.

[George Severis]

In Little Women, I'm the dad in Little Women because I'm the oldest dad.

[Casey Jane Ellison]

Is it dad and Little Women?

[George Severis]

Yes. He's the one who says, my Little Women.

[Jared Goff]

He's out at war, and then he comes back in the middle.

[Casey Jane Ellison]

That's right. That's right. I hated that part, by the way.

[George Severis]

Here's what I'm struggling with, Casey.

[Jared Goff]

The vibes were amazing until he showed.

[George Severis]

Here's what I'm struggling with, Casey. It's like you're a queer woman. Okay. Traditionally speaking, it's like a queer man. The stereotype is that he's more feminine than a straight man. And the stereotype of a queer woman more masculine than a straight woman. Okay, so, of course. Okay, there is. Do you agree with that?

[Casey Jane Ellison]

Generally speaking, queer man is more feminine than a queer woman. That's the.

[George Severis]

Sorry. No, no, sorry. Queer man is more feminine than just a straight man. That's just like.

[Casey Jane Ellison]

Yes, yes, yes.

[George Severis]

And then queer woman traditionally is more masculine than a straight woman. That's just like the general stereotype. You think a lesbian. You're like, she's going to be a little more masculine than, you know, Charlotte York.

[Casey Jane Ellison]

Yes.

[George Severis]

Okay, here's my question. All right. Queerness affords a woman a certain level of masculinity, as does having brothers, because it makes you a little bit of a bro. So how does the masculinity of the adjacency to brothers compare to the masculinity of simply being a queer woman?

[Casey Jane Ellison]

Well, the answer is gay men. It's just like, I am a gay man, too. Or like I'm not. I'm not.

[George Severis]

I see.

[Casey Jane Ellison]

You know the word I'm. I'm really saying. But I'm not gonna say here in.

[George Severis]

This space, but that's.

[Casey Jane Ellison]

It's like. It's. It's sister.

[George Severis]

It's. It's.

[Casey Jane Ellison]

Sister is the conduit to being mass. Being gay for both.

[George Severis]

Whoa.

[Jared Goff]

Wow.

[George Severis]

So have. Here's what it is. Having a sister is straight. Being a sister is gay.

[Casey Jane Ellison]

You tore that. So we can't escape being gay if you're. If you're in proximity to a sister.

[George Severis]

Exactly.

[Jared Goff]

Right.

[George Severis]

Because the sister having a sister is straight, but the sister instills in you a certain energy which eventually makes you get.

[Casey Jane Ellison]

And you must choose to be a sister, too. It is bestowed upon you, but you must choose it. It's a choice.

[George Severis]

Well, of course.

[Casey Jane Ellison]

So that is crazy. I'm really glad we had this talk. It's actually going to help me with my show because that's What? My show is kind of about being.

[Jared Goff]

A sister and choosing to be a sister.

[George Severis]

Being a sister, having a sister, choosing to be a sister.

[Casey Jane Ellison]

And it's conduitness to gayness or like, whatever, like, being. Yeah. Connected through that stuff. A kind of stuff I do a little bit.

[Jared Goff]

Want to talk about brothers for a second?

[George Severis]

We're still on the same page today. It's crazy. I was literally about to bring up brothers.

[Jared Goff]

Go ahead. Well, like, first of all, I don't even know in the gay to straight world where this stands. I just know that when I'm in a house with all brothers, I'm frightened. I'm scared for my life. I don't know what physical violence will come, but I know it will come.

[Casey Jane Ellison]

Brothers.

[Jared Goff]

I have one brother and one sister. I'm the middle child. So it's a very tasteful little mixture.

[Casey Jane Ellison]

But when the only gay.

[Jared Goff]

I'm the only gay.

[George Severis]

Yeah, but also your brother is not Toxic mask.

[Jared Goff]

No, it's a very. It's a very tasteful, tasteful straight. Yeah. And. But, like, if I'm thinking of, like, one particular family that I knew in high school and it was like three brothers and like, like I essentially went over there and would be like, well, hopefully they think I'm too weak to attack. And, like, because you never knew, like, when they were just gonna, like, throw a bottle across the room. Totally one another, really.

[Casey Jane Ellison]

Boys.

[Jared Goff]

Yeah, boys.

[George Severis]

I mean, of course, the flip side of four girls. Jane Austen. Little women. Of course, the flip side of that is the horror, the blatant horror of four brothers all playing lacrosse. Four brothers, like, piling into the minivan, you know, just muddy shoes, literally stepping on their mother's brand new hairdo.

[Casey Jane Ellison]

Right.

[George Severis]

Just disgusting. But this is so crazy.

[Casey Jane Ellison]

I'm so privileged. I don't even know about this life. And, like, you can't even go, I. I didn't even hang out with many boys. And, like, I just sometimes. But I didn't see this inside world. I mean, I was straight for a minute, sure. But they were very gay. They were very sister people.

[Jared Goff]

Yeah. I mean, when I was around, like a. Well, when I was around this family of boys, I literally would turn into sister. I would be like. Like, I would essentially be like, well.

[George Severis]

You have to act like a defense mechanism.

[Jared Goff]

Yeah, yeah, it was weird.

[George Severis]

You can make the conscious choice to be a sister just for self preservation, even just in a temporary way. You're like, I'm entering this house. I'm in danger. I will be a sister for the next three Hours just to get through this playdate. Otherwise, I don't even know what could happen to me. Yeah, but in terms of the straightness of it, because of course, we're saying four sisters is straight. Jane Austen. Okay. Isn't four brothers straight? But I would argue no, because I think four sisters is like, men are. Exactly. Yes. It's like, it's not. But then it's so over the top that it almost becomes like camp. Like, it's like four men that are all basically, like, ripping open their shirts and, like, you know, pounding their chest monkey style.

[Casey Jane Ellison]

That is.

[George Severis]

That's not serious.

[Jared Goff]

Like, you're kind of. Turns into a circuit.

[George Severis]

Exactly.

[Casey Jane Ellison]

It's a performance camp. That's like. Isn't that like the, Like, Jacqueline Novak's show? She talks about this like. Like, how men are everything they say women are.

[George Severis]

Yes.

[Casey Jane Ellison]

And it's like. I think that's like Lacan or something. Sorry. Whatever.

[George Severis]

And, yeah. No, but it's like they are the ones who are sensitive. They're the ones who have short tempers. They're the ones who. And I think she uses the penis as a metaphor for this, too, where it's like. It's like. So you have to, like, like, coax it out of its shell, but then the second it gets scared, it's back. The penis is a woman. Yes.

[Casey Jane Ellison]

Yeah.

[Jared Goff]

Yeah.

[Casey Jane Ellison]

Right.

[Jared Goff]

Huh.

[Casey Jane Ellison]

So. But that's really interesting. I would maybe in my life I will have seen the boy world, but. Yeah, I've just never. Or maybe I've, like, blocked it out or something. I'm just like, that's so not. Yeah, but it's not true. Like, I want to be able to be a part of. Of that world. Your world, or what is the. You know what I'm saying?

[Jared Goff]

Yeah. It is a world.

[Casey Jane Ellison]

Yeah.

[Jared Goff]

Like, I almost would like to revisit it, but it's like, how would I ever. I mean, I do think. I think this is like a gay man plight, you know, like, where you're like, you should have fit into that world. And then you're like, but you didn't. And so now I spent my whole life chasing that and being like, how can I be this, like. Like, nasty man? And I never, ever actually can reach the heights that they reach. Like, they will always be a nastier, gayer man than I will.

[George Severis]

Yes. Straight men will always be nastier and gayer than.

[Casey Jane Ellison]

That's very true. But you can do. I think gay men are really competing these days and being really.

[Jared Goff]

That's true.

[Casey Jane Ellison]

That bitch.

[Jared Goff]

Yes.

[George Severis]

Gay men are out there being that bitch.

[Casey Jane Ellison]

They are. They're really being even more straight than straight can be.

[Jared Goff]

That's true. That's true. That's true.

[George Severis]

Here's my question. So being a brother we've decided is gay because it is camp. What about having a brother because we decided before having a sister is straight, but being a sister is gay.

[Casey Jane Ellison]

Honestly, having a brother, I literally don't know.

[George Severis]

Yeah, it's just foreign to you.

[Casey Jane Ellison]

Yeah, but not even, like. Even if I'm judging and, like, trying to critique. I don't know what that is. Brother sounds financial to me.

[George Severis]

Yeah, totally. Totally.

[Casey Jane Ellison]

Brother. Brother. We're brothers. Like, we're brothers.

[Jared Goff]

I will say, whenever I say, like, I'm going to hang out with my brother, I do feel heterosexual.

[George Severis]

Oh, interesting.

[Jared Goff]

Like, there's something about, like, having a close relationship with your brother that's like. There's a, like, innocence there where you, like, didn't have to grow up. Like. Like, it's, like, simple. It's like, you know, it's gonna be easy.

[Casey Jane Ellison]

Yes.

[Jared Goff]

There's something about having a brother and being like. Like, okay, I'm gonna go hang out with my brother where it's like, I'm actually checking out of, like, real life for a second.

[George Severis]

Right, right, right.

[Casey Jane Ellison]

It reminds me, this is what I see when I see brother. Like a blue bear children's book Brother Bear with, like, a little hat. Sleepy hat.

[Jared Goff]

Yeah, yeah.

[George Severis]

Suddenly you're in a children's book. Yes.

[Casey Jane Ellison]

They put sleepy.

[George Severis]

No, the Sleepy Time Tea. The Sleepy Time Tea Bear is like, kid.

[Casey Jane Ellison]

Like. Like that, but as a teenager.

[Jared Goff]

Yeah, totally. Totally.

[George Severis]

Huh?

[Jared Goff]

I love the Sleepy Time Bear prequel.

[George Severis]

No, you. As soon as you utter the sentence, I'm going to see my brother, you become a cartoon. Like, you start looking at your hands, and they're, like, turning into just line drawings in a hand. You're like, oh, my God. Like, we're in a children's book.

[Casey Jane Ellison]

You have a paw. Suddenly you have a paw.

[George Severis]

You have a paw. It's like, you are. You are Brother Bear.

[Casey Jane Ellison]

You lose a finger and you become.

[George Severis]

You lose a finger.

[Casey Jane Ellison]

Four fingers.

[Jared Goff]

Yes.

[George Severis]

And you have permission to not worry about social injustices or politics or the election or the news. You just. It's this beautiful state where you can go back to just being Brother Bear.

[Jared Goff]

Yeah.

[George Severis]

God, that's. I love that.

[Casey Jane Ellison]

Me, too. Me too.

[George Severis]

Whereas actually, I'm. And sorry to again toe the line of misogyny, but when you.

[Jared Goff]

I was thinking the same thing.

[George Severis]

When you have a sister, actually, sadly, what's happening Is you are going into this realm of like, oh, did I say the wrong thing? Oh, oh, we could. Is this a miscommunication? I mean, going back.

[Casey Jane Ellison]

Yes, you did say the wrong thing, and yes, you did. Because it is an abstract world. It's an opposite of a children's book. It is an abstract realm. We are no longer. There is no way, there's no way.

[Jared Goff]

There's no real world.

[George Severis]

It's a hall of mirror. You are literally entering into like a circle circus hall of mirrors where anything you say can and will be used against you.

[Casey Jane Ellison]

And George, I want to give you just unsolicited advice. When you enter this world where. Yes, did I say the wrong thing? You're never going to get it right. So you keep trying to be brother in this world. It's never going to work. You need to let it gonna work.

[Jared Goff]

You have to be sister.

[Casey Jane Ellison]

You have to just be like, I did say the wrong thing, and then see what happens. And enter that world of unknown. It's not gonna be chill.

[George Severis]

No, it's not gonna be chill.

[Casey Jane Ellison]

No.

[George Severis]

I mean, maybe this is the crux of like, you know, the battle of the sexes is like there's this world of cartoon brother bear world. And. And to the uninitiated observer, they're like, why is that man being so brute? Like, why is he being so bare? But in his mind he's being so cutesy. And brother bear, he just, he has no idea. He's knocking over plates and vitrines and everything when he's like going into the room.

[Casey Jane Ellison]

Absolutely.

[George Severis]

And he's also looking at the sister who is basically in like, you know, a one woman adaptation of Chris Krause's I Love Dick. And he's like, why is she saying words I don't even understand, by the way?

[Casey Jane Ellison]

Mine is not like that. My one woman show is not like that. Just to put that out there. Totally. I think we cracked it like in unknown.

[George Severis]

I know we cracked it did.

[Jared Goff]

I think we cracked it in like a pretty big way.

[Casey Jane Ellison]

Yeah, pretty.

[George Severis]

I would say this is going to be like, this is going to go down in the history books as like core Stradio lab. Mythology is brothers and sisters.

[Casey Jane Ellison]

You can refer to this. But I do want a shout out every time you refer to this conversation as canon. Do you know what I'm saying?

[Jared Goff]

Yeah, yeah. No, this is in the canon for sure.

[George Severis]

And actually, speaking of shout outs, I think it might be time for a.

[Jared Goff]

Final second, which is called shout outs.

[George Severis]

Which is called shout outs.

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[Jared Goff]

George, will you introduce it?

[George Severis]

I would be absolutely delighted. Okay, Casey, Our final segment is called Shout Outs and in this segment we pay homage to the classic straight oral tradition of the radio Shout out. Think trl. You're shouting out to your squad back home. What we're each going to do is shout out something that is absolutely making us so happy this week and we think of it on the spot. So Sam and I are going to think of them now.

[Jared Goff]

I have one, you have one.

[George Severis]

Okay, go.

[Jared Goff]

I would like to give a huge shout out to Bad Sisters Season one. I watched all of Bad Sisters season one just last week and I was in heaven the entire time. And when I was in Toronto even I was like, oh, what am I going to do on this Sunday? I can. The whole city is my oyster. And you know what I did? I said I'm going to sit in my hotel and I'm going to watch seven episodes of a TV show. And I actually have not been so happy in my whole life. I said, finally, I'm taking the pressure off of exploring a new city and I am just watching bad Sisters live it up and be bad. I will say I did watch episode one of season two and I said, oh no, no no. I hope they don't undo the perfect ending they had for season one. And it seems like they might be undoing it. And I don't know if I will continue to watch and I will live in the fantasy that is the ending of season one because it was satisfying, it felt good. And honey, it's all fiction, so just let me enjoy the fiction. So shout out to Bad Sister Season one. Shout out to not doing anything when you were in a foreign city and shout out to Ireland. Woo.

[George Severis]

Woo. Yeah, I'm scared about season two, Sam. I also just watched the first episode and I don't know.

[Casey Jane Ellison]

Wait, so bad. You're not even trying to plug my thing. You're just like coincidentally watching something called Bad Sisters.

[Jared Goff]

It's a, it's a good show.

[George Severis]

Have you seen it?

[Casey Jane Ellison]

Never heard of it. I need to watch.

[George Severis]

Oh, it's on Apple tv. It's so good. It's Sharon, Oregon.

[Casey Jane Ellison]

Oh my God.

[Jared Goff]

You'd like it.

[George Severis]

Okay, okay, okay. I have a Canada related one too. Sam and I just got back from Canada. What's up up my little piggies? I want to give a shout out to the classic Quebec style hot chicken sandwich. I was not familiar with this dish until my dear friend Sarah Haggie planned a beautiful day for us in Toronto and took me to all the Canadian sights and sounds. Culminating in a dinner at this place that served Quebec style hot chicken sandwiches. And I'm sure you're thinking, what the hell is that? It's pretty simple. Shredded chicken on buttered white bread with gravy and green beans on top. And that's it. It is an open faced sandwich, piece of bread, shredded chicken, gravy, green beans. It was such a beautiful like introduction to the spirit of Thanksgiving because this was, you know, a few days before American Thanksgiving. And you know, I think something I appreciate about Canada is their willingness to let gravy be a year round dip slash topping. I think we are so scared in America to divorce gravy the Thanksgiving table. And it needs to be something that has to be enjoyed with the biological family while celebrating violent colonial histories. And I think what Canada has done is said, you know, we can just serve it at McDonald's on fries. So shout out to Quebec style hot chicken sandwiches. Shout out to sort of anything Quebecois. In fact, I'm really fascinated by their culture. I know that's different than Toronto, but. And also, you know, shout out to gravy.

[Jared Goff]

Well, that was beautiful, George.

[George Severis]

Perfect, thank you.

[Casey Jane Ellison]

Okay. What a cuties, which is what I call my fans. That's what my fans are known as. And those of you who do not identify as cuties, I would love to shout out, first of all, alfresco dining. I love you. You've always been there for me. I'm from L. A, so that's a fact. And I love you so much. Like I love spending too much in this setting. I love a chicken caesar, I love the French fry chicken caesar combo. It's Just me. I call it the Sharon Stone of lunches.

[George Severis]

Beautiful.

[Casey Jane Ellison]

It's a perfect fun and, you know, nutritional extravagance. I love, like, ordering, like an orange juice. Like, things that you can get for much cheaper. Al fresco. Simple things. Yeah, I love al fresco dining. I used to smoke like a psycho and I would. And that's where I initially fell in love with al fresco dining. Just to smoke in between courses and. Sorry, is this a shout out or a convo? Are you convo.

[George Severis]

Sorry, going, please.

[Casey Jane Ellison]

And I love friends alfresco. I love dining solo alfresco. I love chit chatting with the waiter slash waitress slash whatever gender. And I love. Yeah, I just love it. I love al fresco. Wow.

[George Severis]

I love that. God. To order an orange. I know exactly what you mean about, like, deciding that, yeah, I'm gonna pay $6 for an orange juice glass that they just. Because it literally. Yes. And it's worth it because that has the experience of drinking the freshly squeezed orange juice outside is literally worth $6.

[Casey Jane Ellison]

I will also say alfresco, not to be, like, classist with the alfresco dining. Back to the shout out. Shout out to, like, in and out al fresco dining. Just like when you take your. Yours, your anything outside, picnics, sitting outside the McDonald's, sitting on the curb, having the taco. Al fresco. Work, work.

[Jared Goff]

So al fresco just means outside.

[George Severis]

Yeah, I think dining outside.

[Jared Goff]

Yeah. Now I've seen everything in Italian.

[George Severis]

Yes. What is it?

[Casey Jane Ellison]

What's the actual translation? Fresh.

[George Severis]

I think it means outside al fresco.

[Casey Jane Ellison]

To the fresh.

[George Severis]

English. It means fresh.

[Casey Jane Ellison]

It means fresh to the fre. Yeah. Which is period, you know?

[Jared Goff]

Yeah, they.

[Casey Jane Ellison]

They.

[Jared Goff]

They knew exactly what they were doing with that one when they named that one. Well, I mean, wait, no, I just.

[George Severis]

Want to say Google Translate says it means cool. Hello.

[Jared Goff]

Hello.

[George Severis]

Circle much?

[Casey Jane Ellison]

Kidding me, bitches.

[George Severis]

Wait, so the epitome of cool to answer our initial inquiry is quite literally dining.

[Jared Goff]

Alfresco dining. Wow.

[Casey Jane Ellison]

I didn't even know you guys. I'm just naturally cool. Crazy. I thought it was just kind and low key.

[George Severis]

Well, yeah, no, it actually means. And by the way, al fresco, I think literally means in the fresh air. But. But it also means in a different literal way, cool.

[Casey Jane Ellison]

Wow.

[Jared Goff]

Well, it means cool.

[George Severis]

It means wow.

[Casey Jane Ellison]

I mean, you're Greek. You understand al fresco.

[George Severis]

I get it more than anyone.

[Casey Jane Ellison]

Yeah.

[George Severis]

Yeah. Casey, this has been an absolute delight.

[Jared Goff]

Yeah. Thank you so much for doing the podcast.

[George Severis]

Let's tell people once again about your show.

[Casey Jane Ellison]

Yes. So it's called It's My sister. It's a one woman, two sister. It's two sisters, one woman show. It's December 4th through the 7th. We just added a show on the 7th at 5pm Pacific Standard. Please come. There's more tickets available and there's standby at all the dates. So, like, calm babes. It's gonna be great. And I really want to give this gift to you and to me.

[George Severis]

Oh, my God, I'm so bummed. I miss genuinely, I was like, what if there's a way to make it work? And there is.

[Casey Jane Ellison]

I think I'll just go do it on Broadway. Like next month. I'm doing on Broadway. Yeah, it'll be great.

[George Severis]

Okay, perfect. All right, See you on Broadway.

[Jared Goff]

Okay, bye. Thank you, guys. Podcast ends now. Wow.

[George Severis]

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[Jared Goff]

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[George Severis]

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[Jared Goff]

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[George Severis]

Created and hosted by George Severis and Sam Taggart.

[Jared Goff]

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[George Severis]

Co produced by Bay Wang.

[Jared Goff]

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[George Severis]

Artwork by Michael Fales and Matt Grubb.

[Jared Goff]

Theme music by Ben Kling.

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