Holy or Hollow

Summary

Podcast Summary: Street Preachers

Episode: Holy or Hollow

Hosts: Phillip Anthony Mitchell & Tim Timberlake

Date: June 30, 2026

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Overview

In this heartfelt episode of Street Preachers, hosts Phillip Anthony Mitchell and Tim Timberlake deliver a powerful, unscripted conversation on the urgency and holiness of faithfully stewarding time. Drawing inspiration from 1 Peter—as well as their personal journeys—they challenge listeners to evaluate how they manage the fleeting moments of life in light of eternity, emphasizing the critical difference between living holy and living hollow. With passionate anecdotes, biblical insights, and practical encouragement, the episode is a clarion call to live poured out for Christ, making every second count for God’s kingdom.

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Key Discussion Points & Insights

1. The Relevance of God’s Word Today

• Scripture always matters: Phillip and Tim start by reflecting on the enduring relevance of God's Word amid cultural hostility and spiritual hunger, particularly among Gen Z.
  • "The Word of God will always be relevant." (03:00, Phillip)
• Cultural connection: The hosts find parallels between Peter’s audience—Christians under Roman persecution—and the pressures believers face today, from government to social media.

2. Living with Eternity in Mind

• The brevity of life: Life is described as a “vapor,” with Phillip and Tim employing analogies about time, children growing up, and making the most of every moment.
  • "We look at the trappings of this life as if they will last and we will live forever. And this glimpse that we get, Scripture calls it a vapor." (06:06, Tim)
• Time as stewardship, not ownership:
  • Tim and Phil highlight that every human is “locked” into time by God, who exists outside of it, and we must steward it intentionally because we don’t know how much of it we have.
  • "We have this misconception... How can you manage something you don't own?" (11:36, Tim)

3. Using Your Allotted Time Wisely

• Investments that matter:
  • Listeners are challenged to consider if they're spending time on things that have eternal significance—family, ministry, generosity, discipleship.
  • "If more of us had that eternal perspective, it would dictate how we spend our time here... our time would become more fruitful." (07:57, Phillip)
• Test of faithfulness:
  • Life is viewed as a test—how one stewards time determines eternal rewards.
  • "We use money now to gain friends in heaven... because of your faithfulness, because of your giving, I'm here." (07:04, Phillip)

4. Personal Turning Points: Living Poured Out

• Defining success:
  • Phil shares how a profound encounter with God in Jerusalem changed his view—true success is to end life able to say: “I’ve fought the good fight, kept the faith, finished my race.” (16:32, Phillip)
• Emptied and obedient:
  • Tim aspires to stand before God “emptied and obedient down to the last drop, poured out,” echoing Paul’s imagery of a drink offering.
  • "If I can stand before God and say I was emptied... and I was obedient down to the last drop, poured out—my life was meaningful." (18:00, Tim)

5. The Danger of Myopic Living

• The window analogy:
  • By focusing too much on the present ("now"), believers may miss the vastness of eternity. Taking “a step back” is necessary to see the details God wants to show us about our preparation for eternity.
  • "If I'm just looking at you, I will call you now, but behind you, I see eternity." (24:02, Phillip)
• Encouragement to the Street Team:
  • Tim challenges listeners to take a step back, creating room for the Holy Spirit to align their perspective with God’s bigger plan.
  • "If you're standing too close to now, you can't put your eyes on eternity..." (26:30, Tim)
  • "Take a step back. Allow there to be space for the Holy Spirit to work in between your now and your next." (27:04, Tim)

6. What Do You Want to Be Known For?

• Legacy of Love and Faithfulness:
  • Tim and Phil reflect on the word they’d want to define their legacy. For Tim, it’s “love”; for Phil, it's being known as someone faithfully used by God, regardless of background.
  • "If I had to limit it to one word... It's not my preaching. It's not the church. It's not my leadership. It's love." (27:52, Tim)

7. Whole-Life Stewardship

• Every aspect counts:
  • Beyond time, everything you have—children, opportunities, resources, relationships—is to be managed for God’s glory.
  • "You own nothing. You do not own anything. Everything under... your leadership, everything under your hands, God has given you to steward." (33:23, Phillip)
• Work as worship:
  • Regardless of your role or boss, excellence and faithfulness “as unto the Lord” is non-negotiable.
  • "It doesn't matter if you plan for them to be here or a condom broke. You know, they're here." (31:31, Phillip, on children as a gift)

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Notable Quotes & Memorable Moments

• On urgency:
  • “I'm writing like a man running out of time.”
    —Phillip (09:31)
• On dying empty:
  • “You need to die empty. Like, we don't want to die full.”
    —Phillip (18:47)
• On eternal focus:
  • “Run while it is day... This is the hour. This is the window to lay down our comfort and to run and spread the gospel.”
    —Tim (21:40)
• On the alarm of time running out:
  • [As a siren sounds in the background] “That's what the church needs... that siren to go off so that we can see the bigger picture of what's really going on. Especially right now, as time is running out.”
    —Phillip (25:09)
• On self-examination:
  • “What was the last thing he told you to do that you did not do?”
    —Phillip (19:39)

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Timestamps for Key Segments

• (03:00) The Word’s Contemporary Relevance
• (05:24) Life as a Vapor; Parenting and the Swift Passage of Time
• (07:04) Eternity’s Perspective on Stewardship and Giving
• (14:42) Turning Point: Phil’s Encounter with God in Jerusalem
• (18:00) Living Poured Out, Not Full
• (21:40) How Revivalists Modeled Urgency
• (24:02) The Window/Narrative on Living with the End in Mind
• (27:52) Defining Legacy: What Will You Be Known For?
• (31:31) Whole-life Stewardship: Parenting, Opportunities, and Relationships
• (33:23) Urging the Audience to Repent for Wasted Time
• (35:03) Prayer for Increased Awareness and Conviction

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Final Encouragement & Call to Action

• Take a step back—mentally and spiritually—to see both “now” and eternity in your life.
• Evaluate what you want your legacy to be—are you living for love, faithfulness, or just the moment?
• Repent for wasted time and opportunities; decide today to steward your life and resources more intentionally.
• “You own nothing... God has given you to steward. Manage, and we’re going to give an account for that.” (33:23, Phillip)
• Consider reading Tim’s book, The Power of 1440, for practical help in stewarding your time.

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Episode Tone

• Raw, sincere, and pastoral: Phillip and Tim speak with urgency, warmth, and humility, filled with biblical wisdom, real-life stories, and familial care for their audience.

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This episode: a passionate plea to live wholly, not hollow; to make every moment and resource count for Christ, with eyes on eternity and hearts poured out in love.

Transcript

[A]

What's going on? Street Team, it is an honor and a privilege to share this moment with you both, myself and my brother Phil. Count it an honor that we get a chance to walk through the word of God and extract out of it handles for this time, this day and age that we live in. Listen, do us a favor, go ahead and drop in the chat in the comment where you're leaning in from, whether you're listening or watching, we always love to see how far God has taken the street for Preachers podcast and kind of the honor and a privilege to share these moments with you. Yeah, Phil, how you feeling today, bro?

[B]

I'm feeling good, man. Shout out to the whole street team across the country and around the world. We love y'.

[A]

All.

[B]

We thank you for all your support, all of your prayers, your love means everything to us, to Tim and I. We would not be here without you guys. And we are one big family together. Let me just set the record straight, right? Like, this podcast is not just like two dudes from the street. This is a growing national and global family of street teamers, Street Team. And we just brothers and sisters on mission for Jesus Christ in these final days of the church age. And it is an honor and a privilege, man, to for all of us to be together and to be unpacking God's word. Right here at the Street Preachers Podcast is where there is an intersection between God's word and what's happening in the times, intersection between God's word and the culture. And Tim and I are trying to use this platform as faithfully as possible to push out the gospel as far as God would allow it to go. So thank you, Street Team, for all your support, your prayers, your likes, your shares. It means everything to us, man. We are in first Peter at the beginning of season two, and we've been saying from the very beginning of the season, we think that is very important, what we're working through. God, the Lord dropped us in Tim's heart coming back from Europe. And when Tim and I was talking about it, it's like, yeah, bro, this feels right.

[A]

Feels right.

[B]

Yeah, it feels right. Peter's writing to the church in the first century, being persecuted in Rome under the emperor Nero. And we kind of feel the same pressure right now, right? Like, I'm seeing a rise on. On social media of just animosity towards Christianity, mockery of Christianity. We've seen it from every level, from governmental levels all the way to the street levels. And at the same time, there is. I'm feeling there is Almost like a quiet revival happening. There is a interest in faith and spirituality amongst Gen Z, you know, and we're trying to feed that.

[A]

Right?

[B]

We're trying to feed that. And so what Peter wrote in the first century feel like is a message for right now. And we feel like the text matters. And let me say this. The word of God will always be relevant. Absolutely right. Absolutely. Let me just put that out there. Let's brag on the word. This bread right here with the oil on it will always be relevant because the word of God is forever settled in heaven. So in every generation, the Word will be relevant. And what we should be more afraid of is when we're listening to people who are teaching without the word of God.

[A]

Absolutely.

[B]

You know what I mean, Tim? Like, when we. If we're hearing teaching that is disconnected from the word of God, seeing ministry disconnected from the word of God, we're seeing Christian podcasts that have nothing to do with the word of God. I think we should be more concerned. I think as believers, the Word should be our well, it should govern the way we live, the way we talk, and it should be at the foundation of all of our ministry. And so that's what Tim and I are trying to do, man. And we feel like what we in right now, First Peter, is relevant to the times. Yo, so where we at in First Peter, Tim?

[A]

First Peter?

[B]

I think we finish in chap. In verse five, when we was talking about the times.

[A]

Chapter one, verse five.

[B]

Chapter one is where we left off in verse five. Talked about God's power and we talked about the. The inheritance that was preserved for us. I think we was also talking about, man, just where our expectation needs to be about what God has preserved for us in heaven. I think I went off on a tangent, man. I just felt some type of way, you know what I mean? I was on my soapbox. I mean, like, ain't on front. I was on. I was on my soapbox for a minute. I was like, yo, who you fighting in the studio, bro? Like, what you fighting for? I was on my soapbox for a minute because I feel some type of way, Tim, you know, I'm saying, like, I feel some type of way that the enemy and the culture has duped our generation and has given us so many other things to love that we almost are. It's like, I feel like there's a large swatch of the churches doing Christianity with no desire to see Christ. We give no thought to what he went to prepare for us. We give no thought to what's going to happen in glory. And because we don't have that thought, we don't have that context, I think you said it best. We don't see this life. Right. So we're not utilizing our time here. Right. And I feel like we're distracted by so many things because we don't understand the, the, the, the never ending season we're going to next of eternity. And I think like you were saying and that we, we touched on this. If we think more about what's going to happen in eternity, we'll use this time.

[A]

Absolutely.

[B]

You know what I'm saying? Unpack that a little bit though, man.

[A]

Yeah. I think when there's no perspective of eternity, like when you really think about it, bro, this life is so short.

[B]

Yeah.

[A]

If we're blessed 90 years, maybe 70. If we're really, really.

[B]

That three score, you're saying, like that's old school, King Jimmy. Three score and three score, man. You get 70, you like three years ago, you get three scores in 10, bro. You like now. I mean, it's short.

[A]

It's short.

[B]

Yeah.

[A]

And we, we look at the trappings of this life.

[B]

Yeah.

[A]

As if they will last and we will live forever.

[B]

Yeah.

[A]

And this glimpse that we get. Scripture calls it a vapor.

[B]

A vapor.

[A]

And I, I even think about that in terms of. You think about that with your kids, Right. It was like yesterday you were holding

[B]

them as babies, Lena. And I think about that. We cry a lot, man. You know, just four teenagers at home.

[A]

Just, just. I remember babies in your hands and now they're staring you in the face.

[B]

It's crazy. You know what they say about parents. And they say the days are long, but the years go by. Stress.

[A]

That's right.

[B]

You heard I just said Your son is 9.

[A]

Absolutely.

[B]

I got 14 years. The days are long, but the years go by fast, you know, I mean, and, and so I think about stuff like that. But you know what though? It's also too, you know, when you're talking about like a vapor, you know how the scripture refers to life is like a blade of grass.

[A]

Yeah.

[B]

It springs up in the morning and it's gone in the evening. And I think we don't think about the rewards. Right. Imagine, imagine having eternal rewards that people sacrifice now because they don't see time. Right. Right. They don't see this life as like a test of faithfulness. And if more believers will see this life as a test of faithfulness, I think there'll be less distractions. There'll be more courage to persevere through challenges and then be like, lord, am I living this life really for you? Am I doing marriage for you? Am I doing parenting right for you? Am I serving my local church right? What am I doing? My money. Is there a percentage of my money that's going towards gospel ministry? You know how the Lord told that parable about gaining friends in heaven through how you steward your money? It's like, we use money now to gain friends in heaven and people. That goes over people's heads. It's almost like he says, use a portion of your income to ensure that you help to put souls in heaven so you'll meet these friends in heaven. Like, listen, because of your faithfulness, because of your giving, I'm here. Yeah, right? We don't think about that. So I think if more of us had that eternal perspective, it would dictate how we spend our time here. Our time, Tim, would become more fruitful here. I'm telling you, if we saw that what I'm doing here is really the setup for the. The. The neverending rewards we will get in glory.

[A]

Think. Think about what you just said. I feel that in my spirit, with. With the analogy of money, Right. Let's just say each one of us was given a hundred dollars. Come on. From God.

[B]

Yeah, yeah, yeah.

[A]

That's the only hundred dollars we would ever get. Yeah. We will be so intentional with how we spend $1.

[B]

That's good, man. You'll be careful about how you spend

[A]

$1 because you're not getting anything else.

[B]

Wow.

[A]

We don't store our time like analogy, bro.

[B]

Oh.

[A]

We don't steward our lives like, that's a good analogy. You know what I'm saying? And we waste days and we waste time and we waste months, and essentially we waste years. And we only get a certain allotment of it.

[B]

And we don't even know how gonna get exactly, you know, because it's fixed. We don't know how much time we're gonna get. You know, People really don't know. Yeah, we really don't know how much time we're gonna get. I mean, right before we came into the studio, I was telling one of my guys, man, I think it was a NBA player. He was 26 years old. How old was he?

[A]

27.

[B]

Brandon Clark.

[A]

Yeah.

[B]

Right. Like 27. I was thinking about how Brandon Clark died at like 27 years of age. You know, we just don't know how much time we're gonna get. So since that time is fixed, we wanna make good use of it. Like, even when I was when I was working on my book project, Contend. Like, I was working with my editors, and she was like. She was saying to me, she was saying, like, you trying to put a lot of stuff in this one little book, right? And I was like, listen, I'm writing like a man, running out of time.

[A]

Absolutely.

[B]

She said, but why you can't put some of this stuff in your second book? I was like, well, I don't know if I'm gonna get a second book. You know what I'm saying? Like, I can't say that I will. Right? So, like, I'm just squeezing things in there. Like, let me name drop a little bit. I'm throwing Tim in there, throw this brother in there. I threw my other brother in there. Like, I throw my kids in there. Like, I'm just like, let me just name drop a little bit. Because I don't have a guarantee I get another book now if God allows me another book. Praise God. But. But I'm. I was told I'm. I'm writing like a man running out of time. So there's some things I need to say. If I don't get you now, I'm. Now you can find that stuff in preaching on YouTube. But for my first literary work, I'm going to drop some things in there because I don't know if I'm getting another chance. But I'm saying that to say because the older I get, Tim, the older I get, the more I'm saying I don't want to waste my time.

[A]

Yeah.

[B]

I don't want to give away time to think that don't matter. I don't want to be in meetings that don't matter. I don't want to. I don't want to be spending my days doing things that don't matter. So I want to be more careful about how I'm investing in lead. Lena. I want to be more. More thoughtful. Let me not say careful. I want to be more thoughtful about how I'm investing in Lena. I want to be more thoughtful about how I'm investing in my kids, my children. I want to be more thoughtful how I'm invested in my staff. I'm investing in church. I'm investing in our podcast, our businesses, all the things that we have. I want to be more thoughtful about how I'm investing in those things. Because we don't know how much time we have left.

[A]

That's right.

[B]

You see what I'm saying?

[A]

That's it. We got 14, 40 minutes in every day, right?

[B]

Yeah. You just knew that off the top of your head?

[A]

Yeah, I wrote a book about it.

[B]

Oh, okay. What was the name of the book?

[A]

1440.

[B]

1440?

[A]

Yeah.

[B]

What was the book about?

[A]

It was about how we steward time.

[B]

Really?

[A]

Yeah.

[B]

Yo, we plugged the book, man.

[A]

Come on.

[B]

We talking about time. Plug the book. Come on, Go grab. Come on, go grab.

[A]

The Power of 1440.

[B]

What's the name of the book? The Power 1440. I plug the book, man.

[A]

Power 1440. You can find it everywhere. Books are sold. Grab it off Amazon and it'll be on your doorstep the next day. Also, go cop the bumpy road to bed. In my latest book, if you have not got that, it will bless you. Trust me.

[B]

Now, that first book you mentioned, what is the book about?

[A]

It's about how we steward moments because we think we own time. We don't own time, we steward it.

[B]

Right?

[A]

And we have this misconception and we have this. That. Hundreds of books of how to manage time.

[B]

Yeah.

[A]

How can you manage something you don't own?

[B]

Right, right. You know what's powerful about that, too? God lives outside of time.

[A]

Yes.

[B]

Right. He has no watch on his wrist, Right. It's not like I got a watch right now. Time. He lives outside of time. And yet he's given. He's locked humanity into time as a stewardship. It's like you have God outside of time, he creates man, and then he puts men between two boundaries. The beginning of time, from the days of Adam until the end of time, when Christ returns. And he locked men between those two boundaries. Then he says, steward it. The one who's outside of time puts man in time. And he says to man, steward it. Why would he do that? It's a test. Because where I am, you're coming, right? Like, where I am outside of time, you all will arrive here. Some of you will arrive and be with me. Others will arrive and be eternally damned. But everybody's headed to a place where time will disappear. So while I locked y' all in time, watch this word. Temporarily steward it. And some people will steward it. Right? And they will be with me, God says, and they will be rewarded forever. Others will steward it. Wrong. And they will be away from me. And they will be away from me forever.

[A]

Right?

[B]

Man, let's feel like we're doing a whole Bible study right now on your book. Right? So the one who is outside of time says to men who are in time, steward, what I've given you is temporary because you all will come outside of time, but everybody would not be in the same place. For that reason, we need to steward

[A]

it wisely, which gives the statement, the test of time, a completely new meaning.

[B]

The test of time. Right. Yeah.

[A]

Because how you steward this time dictates and determines how and where you will spend eternity.

[B]

This is a fact. Right. And then we even think about, like, the man who wrote this letter, Peter. He stewarded his time.

[A]

Well, yeah.

[B]

Like, once he. He really got a revelation of the resurrected Christ. He went on to give his life. He was executed upside down according to a church tradition. And then he wrote these two powerful letters. One of them we're standing right now, he gave his life for what mattered because he understood what we're talking about right now. He understood time. He understood who Christ was. He understood what really mattered, and he gave his life for what really mattered. And I think more believers need to do that. We need to give our lives not just physically, socially, spiritually, like mentally, emotionally, financially. We need to give our lives for what really matters, because all of this is temporary.

[A]

So let me ask you this, because you. You live your life like this. You steward your life like this, and many people don't. When I hear you talk and when we talk, you live with the end in mind.

[B]

I talk about that all the time. Right.

[A]

You live from the perspective of, this is how I want my life stewarded because I have the end in mind.

[B]

Yeah.

[A]

If the Lord tarries, this is how I want my life to be represented, as my final breaths.

[B]

Yes.

[A]

What was the breaking point for you? How did you get to that place in that point where you lived with the end in mind?

[B]

I think for me, the breaking point for me was that encounter I had with God in Jerusalem in 2018. Right. I think before that, I wasn't. I wasn't pastoring thinking about that, and I wasn't living life thinking about that. But I think when I had that encounter with God at the garden tomb in 2018 in Jerusalem, it really. It really marked my life. It was like. It left an indelible imprint on my life in which I understood the holiness of God. And I think my reverence for God had increased so much, I started seeing myself properly in light of who God really was. I saw my life as finite. I saw myself as the sinner I was. And I saw myself as like. As a man who has a fixed amount of time to honor this holy God who just revealed himself to me in a very powerful way. And so it was even. It was even around that time, I had changed my definition of success. Right. I used to think like success in ministry was some type of actualization, a place we arrived. If your ministry, you know, grew to this number and, you know, people trying to break these certain attendance goals and, you know, if I got to this place financially, if I was able to leave this amount of money for my children and. And all of that, you know, there's nothing evil in breaking attendance goals. There's nothing evil in leaving money for your children. You know, there's nothing evil in doing that. But I had. I had changed my definition of success to what Paul wrote before he died. Right before he died. I shouldn't say died. Right before he was executed. Right. Right before Paul was executed. In the last letter that he wrote to Timothy, he said. In that letter, he said, I've fought the good fighter. I've kept the faith. And he talks about finishing his race. And then he goes on to say, there is a crown now that has been laid up for him. And I redefine my definition of success. Like that is my definition of success, Tim. Right. If, by God's grace, you and I. If, by God's grace, you and I can come down to the end of whenever our life would be, right, whenever that. If we can come down to the end of our life, marriage, parenting, ministry, all the things, and on my deathbed, whatever that looks like, my mother had a dream of my end, right. I try not to talk about it ever, but whatever my end will look like, if I can come to my end, whether in a casket or in a jam and in my heart, or if I'm allowed to speak and say, I fought the good fight, I did keep the faith, and if this is my end and I'm in the will, I did finish my race. Not somebody else's race, my race, and I'm headed to get my crown, if I could say that at the end, whether on my deathbed or in a jam, then that to me is success. And if I could say that with confidence, then I was successful in this life. That. That. That's the way. That's what changed for me. That's the way I see that. You know what I'm saying? That's what changed for me. What about for you, man?

[A]

That's powerful. Like Paul, there's a statement he says, at the end, my life is being offered up. Like a drink offering.

[B]

Yeah, man. Like a drink offering, man, you know?

[A]

And for me, at the end of my life, if I can stand before God and say I was emptied, emptied and I was obedient down to the last drop, poured out Poured out.

[B]

That's powerful. I didn't think about that then.

[A]

My life was meaningful.

[B]

Was meaningful. It's almost like. It's almost like I don't even know why we hit him. We supposed to be there. It's all good. Maybe somebody needs us. You know, it's dope, too, because I was thinking, like, maybe, you know, I like to encourage people. I would talk about this in the dark, but I should talk about this more in the light. I've encouraged a lot of people in the dark. I would say to them, you need to die empty. Yeah, right. You need to die empty. You need to die empty. Like, we don't want to die full.

[A]

No.

[B]

And I don't. I personally. I don't want to arrive before the Lord full. Like, it will be traumatizing to me to arrive before the Lord and realize I was supposed to do that 100%. I was supposed to finish this. I was supposed. I don't want to. It's like if the Lord packed our locker with things we were supposed to pull out and do in this life, I don't want to arrive before him knowing that it was stuff in that lock. I was supposed to do. I was supposed to write one more book. I was supposed to preach one more sermon. I was supposed to do one more crusade. Like, I don't. I want to. I want to die empty. Me, I want to die empty. You want to die empty. We want to die heaven, like you said. I love that. Poured out. Everything we're supposed to pour out in this life. Because. Because here's the thing. Like, when we arrive in glory, he's not going to need our sermons in glory. He's not going to need this podcast in glory. He's not going to need our songs in glory. Like, all the things we. We. He's not going to need that there.

[A]

Yeah.

[B]

The things he has given us is for now, right? Like, somebody's watching this right now. And I just want to say to you, like, the things that the Lord has called you to do, he's called you to do it now. This is why obedience matters, Right? There might be somebody watching us now. You far away from God, and maybe he's calling you to surrender your life to him. He's calling you to do that now. Now is the hour of salvation. Today is the day of salvation. You don't have next week. You may not have the next three hours. Right? So I want to say, the street team, who's just sitting on things that God has spoken to you, obey, be Faithful in your local church. Give away a percentage of your income to support gospel ministry. Love your spouses, love your children and disciple them. Help gospel ministry. Go. You know the thing that God said to you last season and you still ain't do it? You asking him for something this season, but you ain't obey. Last season, what was the last thing he told you to do that you did not do? Let's talk about that, you know, before we have this laundry list of all these things we want to do. We have zeal without wisdom. What was the last thing he told you to do that he did not do? What relationship do you have to reconcile? Who do you have to apologize to? What works? You got to go back and fix. Like, let's spend our days being. Watch these words, faithful and fruitful so that we can die empty and stand before our Savior said, listen, we did everything we were supposed to do, at least like what Kathryn Kuhlman said. I love this. She said she was standing before Jesus and said, I tried. Yeah, I love Kathryn Kuhlman.

[A]

I love her, man.

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You know, I love Kathryn Kuhlman, and I love when she said that. She said, I will. I will stand before the Lord and said, lord, I tried. I gave it my best.

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Absolutely.

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You know, and let's. Let's give God our best, man.

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That's powerful, I think, you know, especially for the time that we live in, people often ask us, man, it seems like you all are everywhere. Why are you preaching so hard? Why are you preaching so much? Why are you traveling? Podcasts, businesses, all those things. Why are you doing those things? And I really believe.

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Come on.

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The Bible is true. And the Bible says, run while it is day.

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Yeah.

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And this is the hour. This is the window.

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We got a label while it's daytime

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to lay down our comfort and to run and spread the gospel. I was sharing with Phil a couple of days ago about these two revivalists, John Wesley and George. They traveled together.

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George WH.

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George Whitfield. They traveled together from Europe to the Americas preaching the gospel and sparking revival where they went. And they did most of this horseback, you know what I'm saying? Think about the discomfort in that. Horseback across Europe, horseback across America, taking boats across the sea to make sure and ensure that people in these various pockets of the world are equipped with the gospel of Jesus Christ. We got cars, we got planes, we got sprinters.

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Sprinters, you know, we have money, resources, comforts.

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What is our excuse? You know what I'm saying? And we get trapped in this. This idea Of. Of comfort. And, you know, technology is phenomenal. I thank God for technology. There's nothing like going to be in a room with people.

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But, you know, those men, I think those men had a burden to him. Yeah, I think those. I love the fact you brought those men up. I think those men had a burden, and I think those men. Those men saw the bigger picture. And I think we was. You kind of alluded to this. We might alluded to this in a previous podcast, I can't remember, but I just think we don't have enough believers that see the bigger picture. Right. We don't see the bigger pictures. Like, right, I'm staring at you right now. Thank you, Holy Spirit. I'm staring at you right now, but behind you is a massive window. But behind you, I see the skyline of New York City. Right? I see the skyline of New York City. I'm seeing buildings. I'm seeing all type of things behind you, skyscrapers and everything. If I just focused on you, I would be missing the bigger picture. See, but. But if I. If I. If I step back just a little bit, right? I can see you and the bigger picture all at the same time. So I got. I got one eye on you, but in the foreground, I see the bigger picture. I think too many believers, they're so fixed on right now. So you would be considered now.

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Yeah.

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Like, can we. Let me just do this for a second. Right, Right. So if I'm just looking at you, I will call you now, but behind you, I see eternity. Right? So it's like, if we don't have both in view, we would waste now. And I think. I think too many believers, their view is myopic. It's like they only see now, but they don't see the bigger frame of the totality of what God is trying to do. And I think men like, men like Wesley Whitfield, others throughout time. What I've done. In the beginning, I was only looking at Tim. I only saw now. That was in the beginning of my salvation, when I was an immature Christian. I think the longer I've walked with the Lord and the more that I've wrung out my heart from sin, the more that worldly things have gotten burned out of me. The more I see Tim, but the more I see the window, and because I see the, The. The. The vastness of the window, I understand staring at you is only temporary because of this massive thing behind you. And I think that's the thing is, like, how do we keep one eye on now, but Both eyes on eternity. And then that will help govern how we steward right now. Like, like, like. I'm sure they could hear this.

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Yeah. The siren.

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The siren in the back. Like, that's what the church needs.

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Yeah.

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They need that. That siren to go off so that we can see the bigger picture of what's really going on. And especially right now, as time is running out. Man.

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Think about this. If we got closer.

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Yeah.

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If. Let's just say I was to get closer to you.

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I know where you're going.

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You wouldn't be able to see.

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I wouldn't even be able to see the window.

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You wouldn't be able to see.

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I only see a face. That's it.

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You would. And it's not until you have distance between.

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Back up just a little bit.

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Just a little bit.

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Yeah. That you get the full scope of

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both now and eternity.

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Yeah.

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And see what God is actually doing.

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I think too many believers are right here on life. Right here. This all they see. They just see their job. They just. Everybody right here. They don't back up to see.

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Nose is on the mirror.

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Nose is right here. They don't back up to see. Oh, snap. The Lord has a plan of redemption. Oh, snap. He's preparing us for eternity. Oh, snap. Jesus is coming. Oh, snap. We're living in the last days. Oh, snap. I need to be faithful and fruitful, you know, Take a moment, Tim, and encourage the street team to back up just a little bit, See the bigger picture. Like, just. Just take a second and do that, bro.

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Think about this for a second. If you were getting ready in the morning, you know, they got all these, get ready with me. Get ready with me. If you. If you did a get ready with me and your nose is on the mirror, you wouldn't be able to see the details of your face.

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You cannot.

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You wouldn't be able to tell where you've put makeup for the ladies on there, man. You wouldn't be able to see if your hairline was straight or cricket. Because your nose is on the mirror. It's not until you take a step back that you're able to see the details of what needs to be done in order for you to get ready. It's the same thing in this life. If you're standing too close to now, you can't put your eyes on eternity, and you won't be able to see the details and how God desires for you to get ready for the coming of his son. And so we just want to encourage you with this episode. Take a step back. Allow there to be space for the Holy Spirit to work in between your now and your next. And watch how he weaves together even the things that you thought were unusable by God for his glory and for his. His power in your life. And that is one of the greatest evidences of his grace being at work in your life. Not that you can preach, not that you can teach, not you can cry, not that you can sing.

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Work done.

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Not that you can shout, but that you can step back from now.

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Work done.

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And really put a focus on eternity so that you live with the end in mind. One of the things bro, me and Jen talk about is at the end of our life, what do we want to be known for?

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Yeah.

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If I had to limit it to one word, what is it that I want to be known for? It's not my preaching. It's not the church.

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Yeah.

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It's not my leadership.

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It's love. Love.

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And so everything I do, I do it from the lens of the word I want people to say about me after I take my last breath.

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And you do that well, bro, you love well. You love me well. You love your family well. You love well. And I, I think anybody who knows you personally will be able to testify that you've done that, man. Because I feel that beaming off you every time you and I come together. Right. And I think anyone who has a personal relationship with you will be able to say that. Right. I even think, to be honest, Tim, you know, you know, I think that you are living now for what you want people to say about you when you're gone. It's evident beyond your preaching, it's evident in the way that you live. And I think that's encouragement, right. For the street team who's watching right now. Just when I think about my brothers Tim's life, a lot of you may not know Tim personally. You'll meet him. You'll get a chance to. On our second tour. We got a tour coming up this year. By God's grace, pray for us. We'll talk about that in an upcoming episode. We'll give you some more details, but you'll get a chance to meet Tim. Tim is one of the most loving men I've ever known and he loves self sacrificially. He thinks about people more than he thinks about himself. You'll bump into Tim and he won't talk about himself. He'll talk to you about you. He'll pray for you. He'll always encourage you. And he is one of the most Loving godly men. It's not. It's not something like he may preach from a platform, something you can feel coming out his life. And he's living his life in such a way that when he dies, that will be his testimony. And, you know, the question I asked to you, Street Team, you know, I want to be known for love, too. I want to be known for just being faithful. You know, I want to be known for a piece of trash that God took from the dumpster and was able to use for his glory. And I would. I would say to you, street Team, what do you want to be known for? You know, to be. Truth be told, we're not even going to get to first Peter. You know, we'll come back to. We'll come back. Maybe. Maybe the Holy Spirit hijacked. Well, I mean, the Holy Spirit leads Tim and I and everything that we do, because we don't. We don't script anything, which I don't know if we should be. I like these moments. Huh? I mean, I don't. We've never scripted anything. Not podcast, not studio. We just open God's Word. Our preparation is prayer. Tim and I, we pray a lot. We open God's Word, and we let the Holy Spirit lead us. And I don't know if we should script anything, but at this point, I feel like we're gonna. We're just gonna spend the last few minutes of this podcast just talking to you about time. Time. Is fixed. You're not gonna get another day than what God intends. And he knows when that last day is coming. You're not going to get another year, another month, another decade, more than what God intends. And he knows when that season is going to come to an end. And I just say to you, Street Team, I say to anybody watching right now, what are you doing with your time? How are you stewarding your time? Are you giving your time away to things that are not going to matter? Are you giving away your days to things that's not going to matter? Are you giving away your time to people that's just wasting it? How are you stewarding your marriage? How are you stewarding your children if you have them? Psalm 127 calls them gifts, not inconveniences. It doesn't matter if you plan for them to be here or a condom broke. You know, they're here.

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Y.

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And how are you stewarding them? You know, how are you stewarding the opportunities God has given? You know, opportunities are gifts, too. Just like children are gifts. Opportunities are gifts. How are you stewarding your opportunities? Are you stewarding them with faithfulness? Are you stewarding them with pride and arrogance? Are you stewarding them with a sense of entitlement? How are you stewarding? How are you stewarding the job that you have? Are you always late and leaving early? You know, are you stealing things from your job that don't belong to you? Are you being faithful at your job? You say, my boss is unbeliever. Most of us, our bosses are unbelievers. So what the scripture teaches us, man, you should work as unto the Lord.

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That's right.

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Right. You should work as unto the Lord. So don't matter if your boss is humble. Your boss could be in another religion. It don't matter. You work as unto God, whoever you are. You could be working Starbucks or you could be working at a church, but it don't matter if you cleaning toilets or you preaching the gospel. We should be doing everything as unto the Lord. Excellence. When I first got saved, the first thing I was doing at church was cleaning the bathrooms. And I will put on my headphones, listen to worship, and clean them bathroom. They will be immaculate. And I did them to the glory of God. And my question to you is, what are you doing with your time? How are you stewarding your opportunities? You know, how are you stewarding your resources? How are you stewarding your relationships? Right? There is no second chance with life in terms of life as a whole. The unknown writer of Hebrew says it is appointed to a man and woman to live. Watch this word once, and then the judgment is coming for all of us. We will give an account to the Lord for how we have stewarded this life. And no one escapes that account. So let me use the final moments of this episode of our podcast to just encourage you, street team.

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Yeah, man, man.

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To make a pivot today. Maybe some of you, when this episode ends, you need to get down on your knees and just repent before God for how you have wasted time, wasted opportunities, wasted relationships, blown things that God has given you. Not faithful at church, not faithful what you're giving, not faithful at your job, complaining all the time, acting as if you have all this time to do right. No, we have a fixed amount of time to watch be stewards over everything that God has given us. Listen to me. You own nothing. You do not own anything. Everything under the auspice of your leadership, everything under your hands, God has given you to watch. This word steward. Let me give you a more modern word. Manage. And we're going to give an account for that. So this is not to beat you up. This is to just encourage you that with the fixed amount of time you have, let's be better stewards of everything that God has entrusted to your platforms, your ministry, your finances, your relationships, your opportunities, your jobs, your children, everything. And you know that's going to be our prayer for you, that God will make you a better steward of everything he's given you. Because time is running out and time is fixed. The name of your book is the power of 1440. The power of 1440. How to be a better steward over your time. So, Father, in the name of Jesus.

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Yes, Lord.

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Yeah, Lord, like that alarm is going off right now in the studio, in this exact moment. We pray God, Lord, that an alarm will go off in the hearts of your sons and daughters. We can't script stuff like that. We pray an alarm will go off in the spirit for the body of Christ. We pray for every man, woman that's watching, listening right now, God, that you would give them awareness, you would pull them back just enough that they can see now and they can see eternity, the bigger picture. We pray for increase in conviction that they would be grieved over how they have wasted time, wasted opportunities, mismanaged relationship, mismanage resources, all the things. And right now, in this moment, I pray God that there will be an increase in awareness of the fixed amount of time that we have. Give our brothers and sisters wisdom.

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Yes, Lord.

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Awareness, a burden to be better stewards over everything you have entrusted to them, from their relationships to their opportunities to ministry, to budgets, to their jobs, to finances, everything to their own physical bodies, the temples that you have given them. Help us all to be better stewards of everything that you've entrusted to us. Let this moment of seriousness come upon us tonight. We don't have that much time left. And for the global body, may we start to set aside differences and rally together for the spread of the gospel, for the winning of souls, for the multiplying of disciples, for the pushing out the message of Jesus Christ. As we know we're living in the final hours of the church age. I pray this right now over our brothers and sisters and over our street team that something would shift in their hearts in the mighty and the majestic, in the matchless name of our Lord and Savior, Jesus Christ, Amen.

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Amen.

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Hey, family, if you're watching this episode, I want to encourage you to grab a copy of my brother Tim's book,

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the power of 1440.

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The power of 1440. It is available right now everywhere. Books are sold, man. You could, when you hop off this podcast, go straight to Amazon and order that book. You need it. A matter of fact, I'm encouraging every single person right now watching this episode. Every single person, go order that book. Read the book. Go beyond this episode. Go beyond this time of prayer. Get the book that you have a resource to help you understand the importance of stewarding your time. When this episode ends, when you hop off, go order that book right now so that you have something to help you understand the importance of time. And if you'll be so inclined, go ahead and pre order my book that's coming out in October. Contend it's also available online right now. Everywhere books are sold. You could go to Amazon and do the pre order. That would mean everything to me. And if this episode has been a blessing to you, like I feel like it's been a blessing to Tim and I, man, do us a small favor, like comment, subscribe and share it with somebody, man, who needs to understand the importance of stewarding their time. This episode was brought to you by the Holy Spirit.

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That's right.

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This episode was made possible by the Holy Spirit. Yo, we love you, street team. You mean everything to us. And we'll catch you in the next episode of Street Breaches podcast. Your peace.