"Stare. It is the way to educate your eye, and more." -- Walker Evans "I am at war with the obvious."
-- William Eggleston

In this episode, Antonio and Ward talk about how photography often grows out of ordinary days, familiar routines, and the small things that catch our attention when we are willing to stay open to them. The conversation moves through weather, travel, flea markets, rodeos, old cameras, and personal projects, but the larger theme is about remaining photographically awake even when there is no grand subject in front of you. Whether it is storm clouds over Nebraska, a county fair, a vintage Kodak Brownie, or a quiet experiment with color, the episode is about trusting the small sparks that keep a photographer engaged.

The discussion also turns toward presence and patience, especially through the Japanese idea of Zanshin, or “remaining mind.” Antonio and Ward connect that idea to photography as a kind of follow-through: staying with the moment after pressing the shutter, rather than rushing away from it or judging the image too quickly. Alongside references to William Eggleston, simple cameras, and ongoing personal projects, the episode becomes a reflection on attention itself: how photographers keep seeing, how they work through quiet periods, and how the ordinary can become meaningful when we give it enough time.

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