1511 - Hunter Was Cheating on his Girl with Guys and Now She Joins Him?!

Summary

Strictly Anonymous Confessions – Episode 1511

Hunter Was Cheating on his Girl with Guys and Now She Joins Him?!
Host: Kathy Kay | Guest: "Hunter"
Date: July 7, 2026

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Episode Overview

This episode features Hunter, a self-identified straight man who began exploring his curiosity for giving oral sex to other men while still in a long-term relationship with the mother of his children. His secret eventually came to light with his new partner, "Becky," leading to a surprising and open journey into sexual exploration as a couple. Kathy delves into the emotional complexities of infidelity, sexual identity, and the unexpected twists Hunter’s life has taken since being outed—culminating in a consensual, adventurous dynamic between Hunter and Becky.

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Key Discussion Points & Timeline

Hunter's Background and Initial Curiosity

• [09:32] Hunter, age 39, shares that his interest in giving oral sex to men emerged about three years ago, well into his 20-year relationship.
  • “Maybe three years ago, I got really curious about giving head.” – Hunter [09:46]
• No previous experiences or clear trigger; describes it as a gradual build-up during a difficult breakup.
  • “I don’t know. It just kind of gradually built up.” – Hunter [10:09]
• Heavy alcohol use and emotional turmoil during the end of his prior relationship possibly contributed.
  • “I was drinking a lot. I was a bartender … I just drank way too much.” – Hunter [13:03]

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Relationship History and Cheating

• [11:01 & 13:24] Hunter was in a monogamous 20-year relationship with two kids but began meeting men for oral sex during the last six months, before breaking up.
  • "For the last six months, I felt, you know, guilty." – Hunter [22:26]
• Hunter’s ex left him, describing them as having grown apart:
  • “We were together since the day we met. We moved in together the first day we met each other … She just called it quits.” – Hunter [14:11]

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Meeting Partners for Oral Sex

• [12:09] First encounters happened via Reddit. Hunter sought out giving, not receiving, oral sex and is adamant he is not attracted to men.
  • “I’m not attracted to guys in any way, shape, or form. So it’s weird.” – Hunter [17:21]
• Preferred specific (interracial) partners and maintained ongoing contact with a particular married man found on Reddit.
  • “He would just hit me up every couple days.” – Hunter [20:58]
• Initial experience was rough and left him feeling ashamed, yet he continued due to ego boost and the praise received.
  • “I felt pretty ashamed of myself.” – Hunter [21:46]
  • “He was hitting me up and… wanted me to come back. And that was stroking your ego.” – Kathy [22:00]

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Emotional and Sexual Dynamics

• [24:16–30:08] After his breakup, Hunter reconnected with Becky, a close friend from childhood. A dramatic motorcycle accident led Becky to discover his secret:
  • “I wake up to Becky with my phone going, ‘What’s this on Reddit? Who’s this guy?’” – Hunter [25:40]
• Becky’s reaction: far from anger or disgust, she found Hunter’s activities arousing and wanted involvement.
  • “She’s like, ‘By the way, I’m not totally turned off. Like, I think it’s hot.’” – Kathy paraphrasing Becky’s response [26:16]
• Becky encouraged Hunter to continue and record his encounters for her to watch and pleasure herself to.
  • "She wants me to keep doing it and she wants me to make her videos." – Hunter [26:28]
  • “She loves it.” – Hunter [29:59]

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Opening the Relationship Together

• [28:01–31:52] Becky eventually joined Hunter in threesomes, often taking turns or participating together in oral sex with other men.
  • “We planned that. We’re both going to suck you next time you come over.” – Hunter [28:28]
  • “She’s very, very – she’s an info… ridiculous. And she comes faster than any man I’ve ever met.” – Hunter [28:41]
• They began seeking new partners together on Fetlife and Sniffies, shifting from secretive hookups to openly shared experiences.
  • “She wanted me to find new guys … she’s been watching all these same videos.” – Hunter [29:33]
• Becky is actively engaged in the process, preferring group experiences and fantasizing about further adventures, including DP (double penetration).
  • “She wants to be DP’d. She wants a lot.” – Hunter [51:04]

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Sexual Boundaries and Hunter's Orientation

• [42:36–44:59]
  • Hunter remains focused exclusively on giving, not receiving, and is never physically aroused during encounters with men—the turn-on comes later, especially when sharing videos with Becky.
  • “I don’t even get— I’m not getting hard while I’m doing this.” – Hunter [43:01]
  • “It’s just the thought of it.” – Hunter [43:16]
• With women, his sexual response is immediate and involved.
  • “Definitely turned on when I’m with the woman.” – Hunter [44:59]
• Participating with Becky makes the experience different; her presence arouses him, especially during group acts.
  • "When she got involved, it was like… that’s when I, you know, that’s the only reason why I even, you know, found another guy." – Hunter [45:52]

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Emotional Growth and Reflections

• Hunter says he’s found more security and mutual honesty in his current relationship than the previous one.
  • “I’m very confident… that I’m the only one she wants.” – Hunter [48:33]
• Kathy and Hunter discuss how allowing Becky’s participation is rooted in security, not insecurity.
  • “There takes a lot of security in allowing something like that to happen…” – Kathy [50:41]
• They maintain boundaries: Becky isn’t interested in pursuing men alone and is more focused on group experiences with Hunter present.
  • “We don’t want to… That could lead to problems sometimes, you know?” – Kathy [51:05]

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Notable Quotes & Memorable Moments

• Hunter describes not being aroused by men:

  “I’m not attracted to guys in any way, shape, or form. So it’s weird.” – Hunter [17:21]

• On Becky’s surprising reaction:

  “She’s like, ‘I’m not turned off by this. I think it’s hot.’” – Hunter [26:16]

• On feelings about sharing his partner:

  “With my baby’s mom, no way… this girl is, I could tell you a story about this girl… she’s always been like… a really good friend… and always been very sexually enlightened, I’d say.” – Hunter [47:02]

• Kathy’s reflection on relationship security:

  “There takes a lot of security in allowing something like that to happen... it’s more security is why you allow that to happen and are okay with it.” – Kathy [50:41]

• Becky’s enthusiasm:

  “She loves it. This is like every guy’s fantasy to meet Becky.” – Kathy [30:01]

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Segment Timestamps

• 09:32 – Hunter’s discovery of his oral sex curiosity
• 13:24 – Dissolution of a 20-year relationship
• 17:21 – Hunter’s specificity: not attracted to men, only giving
• 25:40 – Becky’s discovery and confrontation
• 26:16 – Becky is not turned off, finds it hot
• 28:01 – Becky joins in threesomes
• 29:33 – Becky encourages Hunter to find new partners
• 31:42 – Considering swinging and group sex as a couple
• 42:36 – Hunter discusses sexual boundaries: never receiving, only giving
• 45:10 – Experiences with Becky and new group sex dynamics
• 48:33 – On security in the new relationship
• 50:41 – Importance of security in open relationships

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Final Thoughts

This episode paints a nuanced, deeply personal portrait of sexual fluidity, complex emotions, and transformative relationships. Hunter’s story moves from shame and secrecy to openness and mutual satisfaction, defying common assumptions about male bisexuality, cheating, and non-monogamy. Kathy’s respectful yet probing style keeps the conversation honest, revealing the real, often surprising dynamics at play in modern relationships.

“It’s like a gone wrong, gone very right story.” – Kathy [58:13]

Stay tuned for an upcoming episode with Becky to hear her perspective on their shared journey!

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[C]

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[A]

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[B]

You go to Singapore or Thailand. You can't not do it. The temptation is just too much.

[A]

Real problem.

[C]

Your friend know that you're banging her?

[B]

No, no, he has no idea and anything goes. Motto of the show. Let your freak flag fly.

[C]

Probably the only good advice I'll ever give you is to re hide your whips and shame.

[A]

Here is your host, Kathy.

[C]

Hey, welcome to the Strictly Anonymous Podcast with Kathy. If you want to follow the Strictly Anonymous Podcast on instagram or Twitter. Follow me at Strict Anonymous. If you want to be on the show, it's called Strict Strictly Anonymous because they change everyone's voices and names. Okay? So if you have an interesting secret naughty life that you want to talk about while remaining anonymous or not anonymous, if you're out and proud, you could email me at strictly anonymous podcastmail.com or go to my website, strictly anonymous podcast.com and click on Be on the show. Now listen, I'm also looking for people that have any kind of like regular interesting stories or any kind of health journey stories, like you lost a lot of weight or you started working out and completely transformed yourself or anything to do with health. If you have an interesting story, I do a sexual Health Saturday series and I'm looking for for regular people to call in and tell their health stories, if that makes sense on my show. You know, like I said, I mean email strictly anonymous podcast gmail.com. now listen, if you have a naughty confession you want to leave on my Confessions line, you could do that 24. 7. The number is 347-420-3579. That's 347-420-3579. Call from a quiet place. I can't use ones when people call where they're driving. Some of those confessions make it onto a confessions episode. The rest go on to my Patreon. Now my Patreon is super fun and it's very inexpensive if you ask me. It's only $7 a month and you get every single episode. I do seven episodes a week. You get every single one of them early before anyone gets them, as well as intro and ad free. 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It is free, but it is private and you can only get in if I send you the link. I promise you, you will not be disappointed. My Discord is full of great effing people. Okay? So if you buy my book, send me a screenshot of your purchase and I will send you the link to my Discord. Last thing I'm going to tell you about is if you want to sign up for SDC.com I do have a free trial for my listeners. SDC is like the world's largest online dating website. And it's not just a place where you could hook up with people. You could learn all about the lifestyle, you could find out about all the lifestyle events and meetups and all kinds of things going on in your neighborhood as well as if you're going to travel and you want to have a little fun, you're going to find it all on SDC.com Like I said, you get a free trial if you use my code 37712 or just go to the description and click on the link. That's 37712 or just go to the description and click on the link. Okay. Today I'm on such an interesting story. Okay, I got Hunter on. I almost don't want to tell you exactly what goes down in the store because I was very surprised. Hunter's a guy that like, you know, suddenly got into, you know, being into dudes, but he's not into dudes. He's one of those guys that'll be like, you know, I just like to suck a D and then. But I'm not into guys at all. Okay? And he explains that and when you hear all the, the things that go into his blow jobs and how he's not even turned on while he's there, you're just going to be very mesmerized by his story. But probably a lot of guys could relate to him because it's not like he's the only guy that's ever called into my show that just wants to suck a dick but isn't into guys. You know, he's one of those guys. But he started doing it when he was in a 20 year relationship. He talks about that, why he started acting out. It was like towards the end. We talk a lot about how that first relationship ended and why and then what went down during his first blowjob, where he found the guy, and then why he kept doing it. And then he talks about how he wound up back with an. An ax or not an ex, like a girl that he was friends with when he was very young. And he talks about how he was still seeing and blowing this guy while he was with her. And then she wound up catching him. She went through his. And he talks about how she caught him and then how she reacted, which was very surprising to me. And then what went down afterwards. I don't want to give any more details. I feel much more fun if you don't know and you hear what happened. But it's such a super interesting story. This is a guy that's kind of been there, done that. He was like, you know, towards the end, we start talking about. Because he mentioned that he was in Juvia at some time when he met this young girl, like the girl that he's with now because he knew her when he was younger. And we talk about why he was a juvie and all his. That was going down when he was younger. But most of the whole conversation is about him with guys, him with his girl, finding out how she reacted and what happened afterwards. That's all you're gonna get. You're gonna have to listen to the story, but you're gonna love it. It's super interesting. So I'm gonna get back on with Hunter and by the way, Becky, quote unquote, you know, it's all fake names. His girl Becky, who he's with now, is going to come on the show too. So stay tuned for that. But here's Hunter. I'm going to be right back on with Hunter. But. Right, but, but you, you, you're going to hear Hunter's story first. So I'm going to be right back on with Hunter.

[A]

This is the Strictly Anonymous podcast.

[B]

Strictly Anonymous podcast.

[C]

Oh, hey, Hunter. Welcome to the Strictly Anonymous podcast. Where are you today?

[B]

Good, good. How are you?

[C]

Good. I kind of like your voice. It's a little raspy.

[B]

Yeah, it's pretty unique. I get, I get comments on it all the time.

[C]

Yeah, I dig it. It's a good voice. I'm gonna have to change it so that no one knows who you are, you know, and you don't want people to know you who you are. I mean, you just got outed by your girl. You don't want to get outed by other people. I mean, this is the short story. And then we're gonna get the long story. I kind of like a gone wrong story because I feel like people could learn from it. And I don't know where you are at after things went wrong, but, you know, you are a guy who sometimes kind of, you know, you like to suck a dick every now and then. You're not into guys. You're definitely not gay. You're like a lot of guys who call into my show. But you did get busted by your girl. She found out, correct? That's a very short story.

[B]

Yeah, that's. That's. That's the short end of it.

[C]

All right. I don't even want to know if you're still with her, because that'll kind of give away the ending. I don't know if there's a positive ending to that story or negative. You know, I don't know if she found out. And you guys work through it, and I don't want to know just yet. I want to. I want the story to unfold as we go. Okay, so you'll. We'll get there. We'll get there. So how old are you around, Hunter now?

[B]

I'm around 39 years old.

[C]

Okay, 39 years old. And you're not married?

[B]

I'm not.

[C]

Okay, so you're not married. That's cool. So how long have you known that you've been into dudes?

[B]

I don't know. Maybe three years ago, I got really curious about giving head.

[C]

And just three years ago, nothing before that at all? For real?

[B]

No, nothing at all.

[C]

Interesting. What do you think happened? Like, what was there? Like, were you, like, drunk one night and went down the rabbit hole on, like, a porn site or something? Like, what. What. What happened?

[B]

I don't know.

[C]

That's interesting.

[B]

No idea. Yeah, it's weird. It just kind of gradually just built up.

[C]

I know, but sometimes guys don't really put things together, and girls are better at putting things together. So let me just, like, question you a little bit more and see if we could get to, like, what was going ago. Like you said, it kind of gradually built up. Like, what does that mean?

[B]

I don't know. I. I just had, you know, it was on my mind a lot. The thought of, you know, meeting a dude and. And giving him head.

[C]

All right, but why do you think it was on your mind? Did you come across videos? Were you, like, googling that on porn? Sometimes to get off where you thinking about it when you were jerking off, like, for some reason. Did you see a scene in a movie?

[B]

No. No, no. Maybe me and my. Me and my. My girlfriend at the time, we're going we're kind of on the verge of splitting up and I don't know if that had something to do with it.

[C]

Right.

[B]

But we were in a 20 year relationship where we lived together for 20 years. I have two kids.

[C]

Wow.

[B]

And. And then so she, she left me like a year and a half ago. And then I met, I mean, so then I got with this girl who I've known since fifth grade. We went to fifth and sixth grade together. We were best friends. We talked all the time.

[C]

Oh, even throughout that whole 20 year relationship, you were still friends with her?

[B]

No, most of the relationship, Most of the 20 year relationship is mostly like, you know, we were probably friends on Facebook, but okay, that was the. Yeah. And then she has, she has been married and has a kid. So we got together. We happen to be single at the same time and I was actively blowing a dude. So the first guy I met, I met him on Reddit and he lives one town over and he had never, you know, been sucked by a guy. And so it was perfect. We kind of just got, you know, we, we, we, we're on the same exact level. Yeah. And so. Yeah. So that guy I see all the time.

[C]

Yeah, but you're getting to the guy too fast. I still trying to suss out where, how the this came into your head. You, you went from like, I was breaking up with a girl and maybe that's what it had to do with. To you're already broken up with her, you're with this other girl and you're on.

[B]

Before we broke up, I was already on right of doing this. So once I broke up, I was, I had already been doing this for about six months.

[C]

Okay, so, but let's go back to the six months. So you're like, like, do you think maybe it was like kind of like an acting out because you were like very em. Because of what was going down. I mean, you're losing a big thing, like whether it's the right thing to do or you couldn't stand her anymore or you guys like didn't like it. You know, it's still very hard to leave a 20 year relationship. Especially the, the, you know, the woman that you've been with that's a mother of your children and everything. Like, so do you feel like maybe you were like acting out sexually and instead of going with women, going with men, it was like a way of like distracting yourself maybe from what was going down?

[B]

It was partly that. Yeah, I was drinking a lot. I was a bartender for an event company. So we, we Did a lot of ven. Concert venues, you know, and I. Then I ended up running one of the bars there. So I was a bar lead, and I just drank way too much.

[C]

Right, right. And listen, I know that guys that are not as much in touch with their feelings as women are. Right. But they have them. I'm sorry. Like, you have feelings just as much as women do, you know, but guys are much more like, oh, everything's fine kind of people. Right. But you probably weren't. You. You were. It was probably like a very emotional time for you. Right. Maybe that's why you were drinking more.

[B]

Definitely, right? Oh, definitely. Yeah. That also. That also added to the problem, though.

[C]

Of course. That doesn't help, you know?

[B]

Yeah, it doesn't help at all. No. Yeah, no, I lost. I lost. I lost a good thing. That was a.

[C]

Why did you lose it, though? What happens. Can we just say about that real quick? You don't have to get that deep into it. Was it just like a sep. Like, were you guys on separate paths for a long time and slowly, like, you know, were disconnected?

[B]

We grew apart. We grew apart.

[C]

Yeah.

[B]

We were together since the day we met. We moved in together the first day we ever met each other.

[C]

Wow.

[B]

And so we moved in together and we lived. That was when we were 18 years old.

[C]

Yeah.

[B]

We lived together until we were 38.

[A]

Wow. Wow.

[C]

And had two kids.

[B]

I had two kids. And.

[A]

Yeah.

[B]

And. And then she. She just called the quits.

[C]

Right, But a woman never just calls it quits on News flash.

[B]

No, she had been one. She'd been wanting to. She asked. She had. She had planned this. I mean, she was. No, not even that.

[C]

Yeah. But even way before she planned it and was on her way out. There's no way she wasn't. To you and telling you everything that she was upset about in the relationship and you just thought, oh, it doesn't matter. Like, this is what happens with men and women all the time. A woman complains for a very long time, right. And even if she's only 5% left in, okay, she will try as hard as she can by telling the guy every single day what the she wants, what she's pissed about, what she's not happy about. And the guy just goes about his day and thinks everything's fine. Like, he doesn't really take it seriously. And then by the time she's done, by the way, because she's been so trying, playing so hard, and probably at that 5%, by the time she's 0%, you're never getting her back. And. And then the guy's like, what the. Okay, I'll do everything. You know what I mean? It's like, no, you needed to do that three years ago when she started complaining. Listen to your women. They're gonna tell you exactly what they're pissed off about from day one. But guys just don't listen sometimes. It's unfortunate, but very common. Right?

[B]

It's 100. Yeah. 100. You're. You're 100. Correct. That's exactly what. Yeah. I took it for granted, and I didn't think she would ever go anywhere. Yeah.

[C]

Yeah.

[B]

20 years. And I was sorely mistaken. And she is. She's gone. There's no getting her back. That's for sure.

[C]

That's. Yeah. Once, like I said, once the woman is 0%, you're. She's never coming back. And then the guy is always like, what the. And that's when he starts to be like, no, no, I'm. Now he's backpedaling and trying to get it back. But it's never gonna happen once you lose her total.

[B]

No, no. And now. Now I'm doing the best in my life, you know, I gotta. I got a great career.

[C]

Yeah. Yeah. Well, that's good.

[B]

And she just doesn't. She doesn't care, you know, that doesn't

[C]

mean nothing anymore, of course. Yeah, no, she tried. She had that. Like I said, women have hope. We try and whatever. And that's. It's very common. You're not the only guy who's been through it and took it for granted. Okay, so you're like, literally, like, by the time you realize you're really losing your girl. So of course it's a very emotional time because you didn't see it coming, even though it was, like, obviously coming.

[B]

Oh, yeah. It was in my face. Yeah, she told me every day.

[C]

Yeah. Yeah. Exactly. Yeah. Okay. All right. So. So while you're like. Is it like when you're kind of, like, drunk and a little bit out of your mind, you start thinking about Jews?

[B]

Yes.

[C]

Okay.

[B]

Yes.

[C]

And then you have the, like. And then one night, you literally, like, are you wasted? The night that you go on to Reddit and looking for someone?

[B]

No, no.

[C]

Okay.

[B]

No. No. We have been. Me and this guy have been talking for, like, I don't know, a few days.

[C]

Okay.

[B]

And then we just planned it, and then I came over to his. To his house and yeah, it was. I actually didn't like it the first time. He was pretty rough.

[C]

But why don't you go on There looking for like, just like did you know for sure that you wanted to be the guy on the knees and you didn't want to. You want to be the giver, not the receiver. Like I. Yeah, okay, definitely.

[B]

Okay, so I'm not, I'm not attracted to guys like in any way, shape or form. So it's weird.

[C]

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[B]

I think it's because I, because I know I'm, I, I'm, I'm good at it.

[C]

How do you know you're good at it?

[B]

I don't know.

[C]

You just thought I want to be good at Blowjob? Like, I don't understand.

[B]

No, I. I don't know. I think it's just. It's more or less the. The, you know, the getting them off. I don't know. I have no idea. I don't really understand it myself.

[C]

Yeah, it's so interesting. Are you a pleaser when it comes to women, too?

[B]

Yeah, definitely.

[C]

Right? Okay. So you find this guy. So. And this guy on Reddit is like, hey, I'm looking for a guy to come over and, like, suck me off.

[B]

Yes. Yeah, definitely. Yeah. And he's. And he's a. He's a. He's a, you know, a black guy. Yeah. And that's what I was looking for.

[C]

Okay. Are you a black guy yourself?

[B]

No, I'm not.

[C]

Okay. Okay, cool. But you're specifically looking for that. And let me just tell you, a lot. Like, this black guy knew what was going on. Okay. And I don't think that there's many guys that are in his position. I know more guys that are in your position. Like, I always tell my straight guy friends, like, I'm sorry, like, but if you want a free blow job from someone that's not going to want you to take them out to dinner, like, just put an ad out there. There are so many guys that just want to go and give guys blowjobs. You know what I mean? And they're like, yeah, there's more guys that want to do that than want to be the guy at home. You know what I mean?

[B]

Receiving 100.

[C]

Yeah. Yeah. Guys. Straight guys should take advantage of that. All right, so you're looking for this whole. So now even more than just a guy, you also want the interracial thing.

[B]

Yes. Yeah. And then. So I found it. First try.

[C]

Okay.

[B]

And then that guy, that guy, he, you know, he would just hit me up every couple days. Yeah.

[C]

So wait, how was the first time?

[B]

The first time was harsh. Yeah. He was rough in one sense.

[C]

Was he pushing your face in, like, guys? Yeah.

[B]

Well, yeah, I mean, just kind of, you know, like. Like trying to, you know, my face and that. That was. That hurt. He's big and.

[C]

Oh, my.

[B]

Yeah. But. But then we, you know, that was like, maybe two years ago now.

[C]

Okay.

[B]

Or more. And then. So it's been at least like once a week. The same guy and the same guy. Yeah.

[C]

Okay, so wait, let's just slow it down. So that first time, it's, like, a little harsh and it's too much. But how do you feel? Like, right after, it's kind of loaded for You.

[B]

I felt. I felt pretty ashamed of myself.

[C]

Yeah, I could imagine.

[B]

Yeah, that. And. And then, I don't know, I just still wanted to do, you know, he was hitting me up and like, you know, tell me how good it was, and he wanted me to come back.

[C]

And that was stroking your ego.

[B]

Yeah, for sure. So.

[C]

But let me ask you this. Because you're cheating. I mean, this is why it's so loaded to me, right? Is there's a lot going on that you could feel bad about. Right? Like, first of all, you know, you're like. It's confusing. You all of a sudden have a dick in your mouth and you're like a straight guy. So, like, what the that all about, right? But you're also cheating on the woman that you loved for 20 years. Right? Like, was that a part of, like, feeling bad at all?

[B]

For sure. For sure, right? Yeah. I mean, she had checked out a while, you know, long before we weren't. But yeah, for like six months in the last six months, for sure, I felt, you know, guilty.

[C]

Had you ever cheated on her in the past or were you a monogamous guy? So you're a very monogamous guy, so of course that would be a little. That would be a part of you feeling bad, right?

[B]

Yeah. I never looked at any other girl but her.

[C]

Yeah. Yeah. Okay.

[B]

And she never. She, you know, we never. We. We trust each other. We. She never cheated on me.

[C]

Right.

[B]

We were best friends, you know.

[C]

Yeah, yeah, yeah. Unfortunate. Right? And so at this point, we literally.

[B]

We literally are the exact opposites now. And it's just her. She is 100 made a U turn and what. And what she wants to do in her life and. And, you know, even her taste in music, everything has become the exact opposite of what it was. It's weird.

[C]

Well, not really. I mean, like, you knew her through her twenties. I always make jokes and. Because I was twenty something years old. And I'm sorry, but, like, you don't know who the you are when you're in your 20s. You're like, sure, you're an amoeba, right? And you try on so many different things, and by the time you hit 30, 35, like, you know, you're much more settled in on who you are, and you're probably most likely a very different person than you were in your 20s. That's why I think it's hard when people get married so young to stay on the same path.

[B]

Because we never got married.

[C]

I know, but I'm just saying, staying together through very early Ages. Because those are the times when people grow and change the most. You know what I mean? So you. The chances that on the other side of all this growth that you're going to be on the same path and into the same things is not that high. Some people stay on the same, you know, but sometimes it is, like, who the are you after at 35? You know, you're not the same person. You're 25, and maybe you're not compatible anymore. Happens all the time. Yeah. Okay, so. So let's get back to the guy. So the guy calls you up again and you just keep going back.

[B]

Yes, I just keep going back. And then. So I get with that. That girl that I've known since fifth grade. Right.

[C]

That was like a Facebook message or something.

[B]

Yeah, we'll call her Becky. Okay. And so I get with Becky. She. Yeah, we. I was just. I happened to hit her up on Snapchat, and I was like, look, you know, me and my Jamie finally broke up. So well, and she left me. And I was like, you know what? How have you been? And she said, oh, you know, me and my boyfriend just broke up.

[C]

Wow.

[B]

So we were like, you know, let's go on a date. And I got with her. Well, I wrecked my motorcycle. Oh, my.

[C]

You're a mess right now.

[B]

Going for. Yeah, before her. If I back up. Before her, I was with a Russian Mongolian girl for about. I lived with her for about eight months. That was. That's absolutely toxic. It was crazy.

[C]

Was she hot, though?

[B]

Oh, yeah. Yeah.

[C]

And Russian girls by far are like. They're always like a 10.

[B]

And she's mean. She's. And she's mean. And. Yeah, so she. Me and her kept talking and that, and Becky was getting really mad at me about that. Well, I wrecked my motorcycle, and I end up with four broken ribs, a punctured line, and three broken vertebrae in my back. And in the hospital, I wake up to Becky with my phone going, what's this on Reddit? Who's this guy?

[C]

This is. Wait, this is when she finds out.

[B]

This is when she finds out.

[C]

Oh, okay. I like this twist. I'm glad I didn't find out before. Go on.

[B]

Yeah, she finds out everything. She is an investigator. I don't know why she doesn't do that.

[C]

That's like me.

[B]

You see, you cannot. You cannot lie to her. You cannot hide anything from her. I don't know how she does it, but, you know, she'll get call logs from your phone company. She doesn't. She's crazy. And yeah, but she's like, you know, I'm not turned off by this.

[C]

Wow, I did not see this coming. I'm so glad I just let it unfold. It's so interesting. Okay, so she's like, by the way, I'm not totally turned off. Like, I think it's hot.

[B]

Imagine she, she thinks it's hot. And then. So she wants me to keep doing it and she wants me to make her videos.

[C]

No way. By this point, by the way, by this point, are you hooking up with her? And you, you moved out with. From the Russian girl and you're with her?

[B]

She's moved in with this girl, has moved in with me at this point.

[C]

Okay, and you still got the, in the crash while you were with her, like that car, that motorcycle.

[B]

She took care of me for about the six months. Yeah. So we've been together now for a year. Next month will be a year.

[C]

Wow. Okay, so you left the Russian girl, you got in that crash, she took care of you. But it was when you were in the hospital is when she found out. So she found out like right from the get go when you were together?

[B]

She found out right in the very beginning. Yeah.

[C]

Okay.

[B]

And so as soon as I wrecked that motorcycle, she was there in the hospital and she was going through my phone. And so I tried to lie about it. You know, in the beginning I was trying to make up anything I could, you know, somebody else I was doing it to. You know, my friend was using my phone so he didn't get caught and it didn't work.

[C]

So even though she said, wait, even though she said, I'm totally cool with this, you still were like trying.

[B]

This is, this is before. So she was upset a little bit just because I was lying. Right.

[C]

Oh, okay. Well, tell that story. Okay. So she was like, it's like, it's

[B]

like, you know, like a two day, three day process. She's telling me, you're lying about this, you're lying about this. And then finally I just come clean. I'm like, you're right, I am. I was like, it's embarrassing. And she's like, well, you know, I'm, I'm, I'm into it. I think it's hot.

[C]

And you don't have to lie to me.

[B]

Exactly. And then eventually we meet a guy that was coming over another black guy, and, and he was coming over and hanging out with us, and I would, I would blow him. She would watch sometimes and play with herself. And then eventually she joined in.

[C]

Wow. Okay, let's Go back to the first time where she's going to join in. How does that all come to be. Be.

[B]

So we planned that. We actually planned it. We were like, you know, we're both gonna suck you next time you come over.

[C]

Wow. How long are you dating this girl now?

[B]

This would be probably six months in.

[C]

Wow.

[B]

Seven months.

[C]

Okay.

[B]

And she's. And she's, you know, she's. She's got her clip here. She's. She's not been with very many men, but she's very, very. She's an info like this. This girl is ridiculous. And she comes faster than any man I've ever met. And multiple orgasms, you know, it's. It's.

[C]

That's great.

[B]

That's pretty unreal.

[C]

How old is she, by the way? Is she your age?

[B]

A year older than me.

[C]

Okay, cool. Okay, cool. So she's like, listen, I wanna.

[B]

She can. She could come on too, if you want to do.

[C]

Oh, I would love that. Yeah, yeah, yeah, let's do a separate episode with her.

[B]

Yeah.

[C]

Okay, cool.

[B]

You would like that.

[C]

Yeah. Awesome. Becky. She's gonna use the name Becky. Okay, so. All right, so. So you call. It's the same guy, right? The first. A guy that you go over to with. To his house.

[B]

Oh, no. So not. No, no, no. So sorry, I guess I skipped that. So after the Reddit guys, she wanted me to find new guys.

[C]

Okay.

[B]

She's like, she's like, find like one more guy or something like that, you know, something new. Because she's been watching all these same videos.

[C]

Oh, because. Okay. Because it started with you getting the videos and you're doing that for a while with the Reddit guy, right?

[B]

Yep.

[C]

Okay, cool.

[B]

So it's. It's not. It's like I'm bringing her a video each time.

[C]

Wow.

[B]

This is like her. This is like payment to be able to do it, right?

[C]

But she's, but she's into, like, what does she do with those videos?

[B]

Oh, she watches them and plays with herself.

[C]

Okay. Wow. Okay, great.

[B]

She loves it.

[C]

This is like every guy's fantasy to meet Becky. Every guy's gonna want to date Becky. You know what I mean? Every guy wants a Becky

[B]

for sure, you know? Well, you don't know until you get it. It's a lot.

[C]

Okay.

[B]

She doesn't want any of. She doesn't want other guys unless I want her, you know, she has no interest in any of the guys. She is absolutely madly in love with me. Me. But she.

[C]

What's the a lot part?

[B]

The a Lot. You know, she likes to have sex all the time. You know, she wants to be eating out for, you know, a couple hours. And yeah, she's. She's a horn dog, 100%.

[C]

So you've definitely met your match.

[B]

Yes, definitely. Well, I mean, I. The 20 year relationship, we, you know, it was. It got to the point where it was no more than like twice a week. Maybe once a week we'd have sex. And so it was pretty vanilla. We tried to do. Me and my first. My baby's mom, we tried to do some like, campsite stuff for a few months. And, you know, that was. It was. It was a really basic relationship with not a lot of sex. And then to go over here to her, well, this is extreme. A whole nother ball game.

[C]

Yeah, it's opposite end of the spectrum.

[B]

Yeah, she's in like, perimenopause. She's pretty aggressive, you know?

[C]

Yeah, it's about. It's great. Okay, so. All right, so she. Now where do you guys. So now is she involved in finding the guy that you guys wind up with or do you do all that work?

[B]

Definitely, definitely. She's. She's involved. And then, so we got on fet life.

[C]

Okay.

[B]

And then now we're trying. We want to go to maybe, you know, in an event like a sex party.

[C]

Huh.

[B]

Or, you know, or do the swinger thing. We don't know.

[C]

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[C]

okay, but let's stick to the story, okay? Because we're not. Let's get, let's get more. So let's. We're at the place where you go on to. She says, I want to find new guys.

[B]

Yep. Yeah, she wants. She wants to find new guys. So then I find a guy that lives close by as well, and he's actually a really cool guy. We both, you know, all three of us get along. Just in general, he's just a little bit younger than us, maybe six years younger or so, but. Yeah.

[C]

And wait, is he also a black guy? Does she into the whole interracial thing?

[B]

She doesn't really care for black guys.

[C]

Okay, but you do.

[B]

Like, like, it's not like sexually, she doesn't. That's not what she's attracted to.

[C]

Huh. But you do. Is that why you choose one?

[B]

Yeah. Yes.

[C]

Okay.

[B]

Yeah, I prefer that. And then so she's. Anything I want to do, she's. That's what she likes.

[C]

Well, because you're the one engaging at this point. But this time she's gonna be involved. Right, and how, like, what's her involvement at this point? Like, what do you guys are like, what is gonna go down at this scenario?

[B]

We're just gonna both blow him.

[C]

Okay, so only, Only a bj.

[B]

Yeah. You know, switching off on. Yeah, he's the only a bj.

[C]

Okay, cool.

[B]

And that happened a couple times.

[C]

Okay. How was the first time, though?

[B]

It was. It was fun, you know, it was exciting. Yeah, it was hot seeing her suck him and seeing how, you know, how much he enjoyed it. And so we had, we had a lot of fun.

[C]

Who are these guys? Are these guys gay men? Are they straight men that are married? Are they single guys?

[B]

This guy's bisexual. Okay, so there's only two. There's only two so far now.

[C]

Okay.

[B]

The first guy from Reddit, and then now we got this guy that we met from, I think the site is sniffies or something.

[C]

Oh, I'm obsessed with sniffies.

[B]

Okay. So that's where I believe we. She found all these sites. That's where I believe we met them.

[C]

Okay, and what's this guy like? What's this guy's deal? He's by.

[B]

You said he's bi. Yeah, he's by. And he's like. I said he's a little bit younger, but he. He's a really. Just a really cool dude.

[C]

Okay, great.

[B]

And we got along. So. And she liked this. You know, she liked. She liked his personality. Like, she liked hanging out with him. You know, she's. We didn't just. In the beginning, I'm. I'm pretty shy and really nervous, and I start talking and I can't stop. So, like, the first time he came over, I probably talked for two hours or three hours before I even blew him. Yeah, exactly. I get nervous. I tell him sometimes. But, you know, I. I'm like, you just gotta come over. He's got to pull it out if you want me to shut up.

[C]

Hilarious. Okay, I'm sure your girl helps with that. No.

[B]

Sometimes. I mean, sometimes she does, sometimes she doesn't. Okay. It's whenever she wants to.

[C]

Okay.

[B]

But we ended up having. She wanted to. She wanted to be. She wouldn't have two guys. Her. So me and him ended up. And we had a threesome.

[C]

Okay, and how did you feel about that? Is there. Is that like, you're just like. Yeah, yeah. Like, you're totally into it.

[B]

It was fun. Yeah. Yeah. She was sucking, you know, me while he was her.

[C]

And some guys might feel jealous if they see their girl with another guy or anything. Like, you had no worries about that. Like, everything was on the table. Let's just do it, right?

[B]

Oh, yeah. No, I. I did not. It didn't bother me at all.

[C]

Okay, cool. So how was that experience? What went down? Was that the second time? Like, right after the first speech?

[B]

That was. No, that was probably. So we. So we did the first one with him, and that was really, really hot. We. We recorded it. So we watched that together a couple times. And, you know, then we. We invited the guy back over, and so I might have left out, too, also when. So when she caught me. Let me go back to that. When Becky caught me, she went ahead and messaged the guy, the first guy from Reddit, and she was like, you know, I'll tell your wife he was married.

[C]

I just asked you the demographics of the other guys. You didn't say he was married. Married.

[B]

The first guy. The first guy's Married.

[C]

Okay, well, you didn't tell me that. Okay. That's why I asked.

[B]

Yeah.

[C]

This is why I need to be on these calls. It's okay. It's okay. This is why I interrupt people and everyone complains. It's like, please. I wouldn't get it. Half the stories I get if I wasn't involved in. Get talking to these people.

[B]

No problem. Yeah, you got. You gotta. You gotta. You gotta stop me.

[C]

Yeah, yeah, yeah. So that guy was married. Where would you. You meet him if he was married?

[B]

I read it.

[C]

No, no, not where. Where would you perform your BJ's?

[B]

Okay, so. So he had. So over at his mother's house in the same town. He has a studio. He actually records music. Oh. So when he. So he has sessions. Right, right. He'd be like, you know, my session's about to leave at this time. You know, come over right then.

[C]

Wow.

[B]

And then he'd be able to. To do that and, you know, his wife wouldn't suspect any.

[C]

Hilarious. Okay, interesting. Okay, so your girl Em is texting him when she finds out, by the way, I'm gonna tell your wife, blah, blah, blah.

[B]

Yeah, yeah. If you ever talk to him again. Right. This is. This is why I'm still in the hospital. She's telling him this.

[C]

Yeah.

[B]

So eventually, she. We were. After we did this with the guy that I met from Sniffies after we had the threesome and whatnot, we decided to go and bless the guy that I had first did it with with me and her sucking him.

[C]

And he. So, I mean, after she threatened him and stuff, was there no more hooking up with him, right? Oh, no. You went back to him and did videos, right?

[B]

Oh, yeah. Yeah. And he was. He was like, all right, how can I believe you? I gotta trust you. So she actually texted him, was like, I apologize. Okay. I should have said those things to you. And they said he was real nervous about it at the beginning, and then he was okay with it. And then eventually she came with me one time and we both. We both gave him a blow job.

[C]

Okay.

[B]

And so he, like. He liked that, obviously, every time. Now, you know, this is actually recently. This is just probably not. So all this has been in the last, you know, six months? Yeah, six to eight months, something like that. So in the whole span, like, I was. My. My. My baby mom left me probably about two years now, out on. On the dot. And then. So it went to the. The Russian girl and then Becky.

[C]

I know, but after you had, like, what went down at the threesome with the. For. With the sniffies guy.

[B]

So that was fun. We set up a camera, and the snippies guy, he came over, he brought a bunch of condoms. He's, you know, he's got a big dick. And it was. It was pretty hot to see her kind of struggle with it. It right in the beginning. And. And then, you know, she, like I said, she orgasms super fast and just multiple, you know, back to back. And so it was fun. I got to see her come on his dick and then mine, and she would suck me in and suck him, and we ended up both coming in her mouth. So it was. It was a really good experience. The threesome. Yeah. And we actually did that one more time with him.

[C]

Right.

[B]

And. And we have not. Our schedules just haven't worked out now to, you know, have him come by again recently.

[C]

But when you went back to the sniffies guys, did you ever do more than a BJ with him? Or when you went. Called him back after that first time, did you do another. Did you do a 3? More of a threesome with him or no?

[B]

Yeah. Oh, yeah. Yeah, we had two threesomes with him. Him.

[C]

Okay, so let's get started there. Okay. So you call back the sniffies guy and you wind up doing a double bj. Now, when do you do this? Do more with him? Because at this point, that guy, you've been with him for a long time, but you've never done more than a bj.

[B]

Yeah, this. So the snippy's guy, he's the new one, so.

[C]

No, that's the Reddit guy. I'm sorry, when you go back, the

[B]

red guy, I've been with him for a long time, but see, he's kind of aggressive, so I didn't want to. Want, you know, to bring Becky with me. I was kind of hesitant.

[C]

Right. I can imagine. Right.

[B]

So, you know, after I told him, yeah, this is the way you got to be easy. Just sit back and relax and. And then. So I did bring her by a couple times, and we both blew him. We both, you know, I started, and then after I'd suck him for a minute, get him hard, I would call her over.

[C]

Okay. But no, no, no, we're past the BJ's. What happens when you do more with him?

[B]

When we do more. So when I bring her over, that's all we did. We never see. I have not had. He's not had sex with her. Only the guy from civies. Okay. We had a threesome with.

[C]

Okay.

[B]

He's the only One that I've shared her with, but now we're looking to go to. Like I said, now we're on FetLife and we're trying to see if we want to, you know, move forward in the lifestyle or it's just try everything out and see what it. What's fun and what's not.

[C]

Not. Okay, let me ask you this. Did you ever go further than blowjobs with a guy?

[B]

Never. No, I've never gone further.

[C]

And you don't want to go further?

[B]

No, not at all. There's no. There's no desire. I don't want to even, you know, I don't want to have them touch me in any way.

[C]

So you never have even gotten a blowjob from them?

[B]

No, never.

[C]

Right. And they're cool with that? Right.

[B]

It doesn't even try. Like, I don't even get. I'm not. I'm not like, getting hard while I'm doing this. It's. It's.

[C]

What do you mean?

[B]

I mean, like, I don't. I don't get hard while I swallow them head. I'm not.

[C]

Is it afterwards, thinking about it afterwards?

[B]

Exactly.

[C]

Okay.

[B]

It's just the thought of it.

[C]

Interesting. Never during.

[B]

Never during.

[C]

Right. But afterwards you can, I mean, just.

[B]

I guess. I guess I don't.

[C]

I don't know.

[B]

Like I said, I think it's more or less I like the fact that they like it so much.

[A]

Right.

[C]

And you get off on that. But I'm just saying, typically though, every time after you're done, that's when you're getting pleasured by the scenario, correct?

[B]

Yeah. Yeah, exactly. So I would go home to Becky and then I show her the video, she'd watch it, she'd play with herself, and then we have. We'd have sex.

[C]

No, but what about when you were doing it alone?

[B]

Oh, by myself. Yeah. I never, I mean, probably definitely got aroused and would, you know, masturbate, but I wouldn't watch videos of men with men.

[C]

But I'm just saying, after you would do these scenarios, considering you're never getting hard when you were seeing Reddit guy, Right. You're there, you're blowing. You're not hard at all. You come home. Is that when you're, like, pleasuring yourself to the thoughts of it when you were solo, when you didn't have Becky?

[B]

Definitely. Yeah, definitely. Once. Once it was over? Yeah, I would, I would. I would watch some porn and, you know, masturbate.

[C]

You wouldn't. Just you. It wasn't enough just thinking about the Scenario. You. You watched porn at the same time?

[B]

Yeah, yeah. The scenario wasn't enough interesting.

[C]

But yet you would still be attracted to that scenario.

[B]

Just. Yeah, more or less. It's because they. They enjoy it so much is the. What brings me back.

[C]

Right. So just like, all of a sudden you'll get the urge and like, the thought of it is horny for you, like just getting somebody off. But you, when you get there, you're not horny. Yeah. Interesting. Yeah. Do you feel the same way with women? No. You're turned on when you're with a woman, correct? Correct.

[B]

Oh, yeah. Definitely turned on when I'm with the woman.

[C]

Yeah. That's interesting. Not turned on at all when you're there and when you're home. It's not enough just to. It's not like you get hard immediately when you leave the scenario after you do it.

[B]

No. Yeah. But so. Oh, well, me and Becky, though, so when we would, when we would go over to the Reddit guy's house and blow him. So we did it a few times and on the way home, oh, she would, she would, she would blow me while I was driving. You know, we would take the country roads. I got out and, you know, her beside the car a couple times. It was, it was really fun. It turned us on.

[C]

Right. I can imagine. I mean, she sounds like she's more into it than you. She's probably horny while she's there. You're. But let me ask you this. When she got involved, I would assume when she was involved, were you actually, actually, like, into the scenario while you were there with her?

[B]

Her, definitely.

[C]

Okay.

[B]

Oh, yeah. When she got, when she got involved, it was like. So that's when I, you know, that's the only reason why I even, you know, found another guy.

[C]

Right.

[B]

Do it with. Because I was content with him, just. Just whatever he want. I would ask me if he stopped asking me. I wasn't worried about it. I probably wasn't gonna go. Wasn't gonna go look for, you know, somebody else to do it with. Right. For her and she want, you know, that's what turns her on. I was down.

[C]

Right. But you would be horny in this. You would be getting hard. Now all of a sudden, when you're with the guy because your girl is there. Right. That's a different experience for you.

[B]

100.

[C]

Now, are you the type of guy, like, if you look back at yourself, how you are with women, like, can you believe that you're, like, down seeing your girl with someone else, like before you got into this with Becky. Would you have ever thought that you were the type of guy that would be able to see his girl with another guy and be okay with it? That.

[B]

Not at all.

[C]

Right. Interesting, right? Don't you think?

[B]

Yeah. Oh, definitely. Yeah, I know. I mean, with my. Yeah. With my baby's mom. No way would I ever. You know, that was. You know, she even. She even said one of her fantasies was to have a threesome with you guys. And, like, there was no way I'd ever fulfill that for.

[C]

Interesting. And why do you think that this has played out very differently? Is it because you're different? Is it because of the way it just unfolded with this girl?

[B]

I. I don't know. You know, this girl is. I could tell you a story about this girl. So when I was younger, I got in trouble a lot. And so this girl. I told you, I've known her since we were kids.

[C]

Yeah.

[B]

So probably around when I was 15 years old or so she. We would talk on the phone every day, you know, and I was going. I had to go to turn myself in on a Friday, and I knew I was going to do six months in a juvenile program. And so I called her up, and she had a boyfriend at the time. And I was like, hey, you know, Becky, I gotta go turn myself in the day after tomorrow. Would you come over and have sex with me? And we had never. We had never done anything with each other.

[C]

Just friends.

[B]

Yeah, just friends. And she goes, let me ask my mom if I can get a ride. So her mom dropped her off, and she came in, I mean, and we had sex. So. So she's always been like. Yeah, I mean, a really good friend, I guess, And. And always been very sexually enlightened, I'd say.

[A]

Right.

[B]

You have to talk to her. You'll get a great episode with her.

[C]

Oh, my God. But you're, like, also, like, you're in a real relationship with her. Right. So, I mean, is it surprising for you that you fell for Becky both romantically and everything, and you're still okay with her being with someone else, whereas you wouldn't have felt that same way about your other girl?

[B]

Girl. Because I'm very. I'm very confident. She makes me feel very confident that. That I'm the only one she wants.

[C]

All right, so that's what. That's the difference.

[B]

You feel like that's the difference. Yeah, for sure.

[C]

Right. Right. So it's not. It's like you. You're in love with Becky the same way you were in love with your baby mama. Right. But you just feel like you're more secure and that security is the difference between why you feel okay with that now as opposed to the other in other scenarios.

[B]

Yeah. Yes. Yeah. Definitely. Yeah. My baby mom, I felt always judged by her. She's a. Comes from a very, you know, up a very well known family in our town. And, you know, important people are. So she's, you know, I don't know how. She's a brat, right. And she spoils. She does. Spoiled rotten. And she gets everything she wants. You know, her mom buys everything. Her mom gave her a business to run. And so she's very judgmental. And there was, you know, I never felt comfortable. I knew she would never cheat on me, but I. I knew she would leave me in a heartbeat.

[C]

Yeah. It's interesting because, you know, and the reason why I asked that, and I love it, but I never thought.

[B]

I never thought she would actually stay gone. I always thought that she was.

[C]

I got it. I get it. We already went through that. But what I think is interesting about the. That statement about feeling more secure with this one, and that's why you allow it, is because sometimes people on the outside, like very vanilla people look at guys who share their girls and they think it's kind of like the opposite. Like you're so weak. Like, what, you let your girl go get pleasured by someone else, blah, blah, blah. You know, and typically when you're really talking to guys like you and guys that are into this kink and stuff, there takes a lot of security in allowing something like that to happen. If somebody really thinks about it, you know, a guy would have. Have to be very secure in his relationship with his girl, in his feelings for himself to allow that to happen. Right? And you said it like, the reason why this is okay for you with her is because you feel secure. It's not like less secure, it's more security is why you allow that to happen and are. And you're okay with it. And you could sit back and enjoy it. Right?

[B]

100. Yeah. I mean, and we haven't done no solo. She's never been out by herself. But you've only been with this one guy with penetration, you know, with this. But she wants to be dp. She wants. She wants a lot.

[C]

Right? And. And you said that she's not really that interested at some point. You said she's not really that interested in other guys. Like, I always worry about solo play. Like there's no reason to ever have to go there if you don't want to.

[B]

We don't want to.

[C]

Yeah, yeah, yeah. You don't need to. Right. That could lead to problems sometimes, you know? So I think it's better that you play together. And you said, like, she's not really that interested in anybody else. It's just something that you guys do when you're together. Right?

[B]

And we. Yeah, we. It turns us both on to see each other, you know, get pleasured and have fun.

[C]

Right. She's into it too. So what's on her bucket list? A dp.

[B]

Yeah, that. That's it. That, that's, that's. That's the next one she wants to do.

[C]

Oh, my God. Are you sticking with the sniffies guy? Are you looking for more guys?

[B]

We don't know. Like I said, we're gonna. We're gonna try and go to some like a local Sweers party or something and just maybe, you know, maybe one of their little meet and greets and just see how things go.

[C]

Yeah, you should do it.

[B]

Maybe do a soft swap with a couple, like, same room.

[C]

Yeah, I was gonna ask about that. What's the deal with her with women? Her? With seeing you with the woman.

[B]

Bisexual.

[C]

Okay.

[B]

She doesn't know if she can see me with a woman.

[C]

Okay.

[B]

Which is fine with me. Yeah, I'm not worried about that. I don't need another woman.

[C]

Right.

[B]

But I would like to see her with a woman. Woman.

[C]

Right. And has she ever been with a woman?

[B]

Oh, definitely.

[C]

Okay, so do you. And so like, how, like, it must be like, so freeing for you to be able to be with guys and not have to lie about it and be living out this whole side of yourself that you figured out. Right. With the. The woman you also love too. I mean, because you guys have a real relationship, right?

[B]

Oh, yeah, yeah. We live together. Yeah. It's great. It's great to have that. She, you know, is. She's into it, right.

[C]

She's like your biggest sexual fantasy and you're living at all your great fantasies with her. But you also have a, like, you're obviously a relationship guy, right? Like you're in 20 year relationship since you're a kid and then you jumped into another one, so. And you were living with a Russian girl for eight months. Like you like to lock down, right? Like you like to be in a relationship. You're that guy.

[B]

I do, yeah, I do. I like, I like to be. I like, I like to have a stable relationship. Yeah.

[C]

Yeah. It's a matter of just like following what you want, you know? I mean, this was like a girl that you always like. Like, do. Did you really like her when you guys were best friends back in the day?

[B]

Oh, I. I was. I was in love with her. I had a crush on her. But she always had a boyfriend, Right?

[C]

Right.

[B]

Always had my boyfriend. Yeah.

[C]

Yeah. And then the fact that you guys both broke up at the same time, it was, like, perfect timing. You know? This is your time, right? This is, like, your time to be together. Did your girl know her?

[B]

My. My. My mom did not know her, but I knew of her.

[C]

Okay.

[B]

And I got in trouble once with the Facebook. I lied when Facebook, like, first came out, and Becky, you know, friend requested me, and then my. My baby mama knew everybody I'd been with. I told her everything.

[C]

Yeah.

[B]

So she goes, is this the same Becky? I says, is this the same Becky? And I was like, no, it's not. And she messaged her, was like, hey, did. Did you, you know, have sex with. With Hunter in high school or middle school? She's like, what's none of your business? So she knew right away. She's like, well, that means yes. And you lied to me. So that was the only thing in the 20 years that she. That we. You know, I'd never been, like, caught doing.

[C]

Yeah.

[B]

And so when I ended up with Becky, you know, my baby mom was a little bit like, wow.

[C]

Yeah, of course.

[B]

With her.

[C]

Yeah, of course.

[B]

Yeah, yeah, yeah. She's like the one that I've heard about since the beginning. Yeah. You ended up with her right afterwards.

[C]

Like, oh, my God. But she never caught you with guys, right? The first one. Right?

[B]

No, no, not at all. She never went through. Well, we didn't share location. She didn't go through. I never went through her phone. She didn't go through mine.

[C]

Right. But that time, she probably didn't even care what the. You were doing. She was so over you. She wasn't looking through your phone like Becky was.

[B]

No. Yeah, no, I was. I was. You know, the last straw was. I'll tell you how over me she was.

[C]

Yeah.

[B]

The last straw. The last straw was I was getting up my phone. I was having my phone's data swapped to a new one in. In T Mobile.

[C]

Yeah.

[B]

And I. I was running a little bit late. I didn't realize. So I get home, I'm supposed to go to a. A Christmas tree lighting. Yeah. In our town, and I. I show up 15 minutes late. You know, we were supposed to leave 15 minutes ago.

[C]

Yeah.

[B]

And she packed up the kids and said, that's the last Time you let me down.

[C]

Right.

[B]

And she left. And that was it.

[C]

That's. That was a straw that broke the

[B]

camel for being 15 minutes late.

[C]

Yeah, but that. No, no, but that. Like, if you just lead with that. Because, like, one time there was somebody that was always late for me. Like, always, constantly, forever. And one day I told him, if you're even like one minute, a minute late, like, to come to my house, I am not letting you in. And he drove, like, through like a. Like a walked. I live in New York City through like a hurricane to come to me. And he was five minutes late, and I didn't let him in, just like I said I would. And people thought I was like a real. But I'm like, that's not. Like, this isn't why he's not coming in. It's not one time. It's like 50, 000 times. And this is when I said that's how I was.

[B]

I was late all the time.

[C]

Yeah. So it's like. It's not like she didn't leave you because you were 15 minutes late. She left you because you were not thoughtful. You were late all the time was

[B]

hours and hours and hundreds of hours late.

[C]

You can't. You can't. That story out of context makes her sound, like, crazy, but she wasn't. She had had enough, and as she should.

[B]

That's how over me she was.

[C]

Fed up.

[B]

That was the last one. Yeah.

[C]

What. And what is with you lay people? It's so rude. I don't understand it.

[B]

It's like I have adhd.

[C]

I mean, I don't care.

[B]

So do I. I can be walking out of my house and I can see. Oh, man. I wanted to see what that paint looks like. And I don't open up a can of paints. So I'm a. I'm a painter.

[C]

Yeah.

[B]

By trade. And I do drywall and whatnot. And so I get sidetracked by everything.

[C]

I know. But I'm just going to tell you this is what I think about lay people. Then I have one more question for you. Like, lay people. I feel like, like, to me, because, like, no matter where I'm going, I'm always on time. And even if I, like, I'm traveling in a car and I hit traffic, like, I still make it on time. Like, no matter where I go, no matter what I do, I'm always on time because my intention is to be on time. It's all about intention. So it's like if you just start intending to be on time and like, Putting that in your head, you will be on time. You can make all the excuses in the world, but it just doesn't matter to you to be on time. You don't care whether you're on time or not. You've got away with it your whole life. But it is very rude. And I suggest everybody that's not an on time person starts to be a on time. And I feel like, you know what, if you're like an on time person, you're just like, you're suddenly like better than, than the average person. Like, it's not that hard to be better than everyone. Just like, do what you say, mean what you want, be honest and be on time. And you're suddenly ahead of like 90 of the people out there because it's so ridiculous to not be on time. And it just really makes you a ten times better, more responsible person. But I love your story. Like I said in the beginning, I mean, I forget that we're talking about your guy and guy action, but that is like super. You know, it was so interesting to me how it turned out because I didn't really get it. I want to kind of tease it to people, not let them know as much so they could be as surprised as me because it is like a gone wrong, gone very right story. You know what I mean? So it's not like, oh, it did.

[B]

Yeah, I mean, I mean I, I made some mistakes down the road, but it ended up a pretty good, A pretty good outcome.

[C]

Yeah, you ended up with Becky. I mean, I don't know, the, the whole Becky thing is like amazing. So anyway, listen, get Becky to use the link that I sent you. You should still have it in your tab. Right. To come on the show too. And I love your story. Thank you so much for calling in and sharing it. It was super interesting.

[B]

Right on. I appreciate you letting me on.

[C]

Yeah, I love it. And give Becky asap. Okay. If you want to send in pics. I mean, if. But does Becky know you're calling in? Obviously.

[B]

100. Yeah, she's. I actually drove off and, you know, so that I didn't want my daughter to hear.

[C]

Of course, of course. But if you want to send in pics for my Patreon, you can, you know. Anonymous. Yeah, nothing X rated, but you could do R rated hot picks with Becky if you want. And then you'll get access to my discord, which is private. You'll get the link when we hang up. And you love that there's a dick pick contest going on right now. You win like 300 bucks if you win. There's like 200 dicks on there. You're not going to believe. All my listeners have the biggest. The biggest dicks. You're not going to believe the decks that you're going to see there. You're like, where the are these? I don't get it.

[B]

You know they're drawing these ones at.

[C]

Yeah, they're all there. This is my second one I've done. It's now it's an annual dick fit contest. I do. And this time it's just as many. And there's tons of them, and they're all huge. I'm like, what the. Where were these when I was young and promiscuous? But you'll. You'll have fun in there. But anyway, get Becky to call, and thank you so much for calling in. You'll get free access to my Patreon for a month to see comments when your episode goes up. I might even air it next week, I don't know. Or the week after. Okay. So stay tuned. I'll send you an email when that's up. Okay.

[B]

All right. Thank you.

[C]

Thanks, Hunter. This was fun. Bye.

[B]

Bye. I'm Kiana. And I leveled up my business with Shopify. Once I figured out that Shopify was a thing, I never turned back. I can create a site with my eyes closed. Shopify thinks ahead of us, you know, and it thinks about the customer more than anything. Every day I'm thinking about some other new business, but Shopify is doing it to me because it's so easy to use. It's like, I can't stop.

[C]

I'm addicted.

[B]

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