1520 - Ariel & Eddie are Into Throwing Orgies, Couple Swapping and More

Summary

Strictly Anonymous Confessions

Episode 1520 — Ariel & Eddie are Into Throwing Orgies, Couple Swapping and More
Host: Kathy Kay
Date: July 16, 2026

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Episode Overview

This riveting episode features a candid conversation with married couple Eddie and Ariel, who discovered a whole new chapter in their relationship after a significant weight loss transformation. Host Kathy Kay dives into their journey—how newfound confidence led them from a "vanilla" sex life to exploring the swinging lifestyle, organizing group orgies, couple swapping, bisexual exploration, and much more. Kathy speaks to each partner separately, offering rich details and hot stories from both perspectives. The tone is open, honest, energetic, and completely unfiltered—true to the Strictly Anonymous brand.

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Key Discussion Points

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[08:19] Weight Loss Transformation & Its Effects

• Motivation: Eddie had a serious health scare—"It was pretty much either do it or you die type of thing."
• The couple radically changed their diet and started CrossFit, eventually owning a gym.
• Weight loss took four years and became a total family lifestyle change.
• Sexual Impact: Increased libido followed—“After exercising, eating healthy, it was like we were horny all the time.” — Eddie [09:22]
• Their once "vanilla" sex life shifted from sex every week or two to daily, sometimes multiple times per day.

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[10:40] Opening Up: Entering the Lifestyle

• Eddie describes himself and Ariel as completely vanilla before—"Traditional couple, missionary style, get it over with and go to bed."
• Curiosity led Eddie to suggest voyeurism; Ariel was open but cautious.
• First steps:
  • Researched online, joined a local Facebook group
  • Attended a local "meet and greet"—described as nerve-wracking, with initial skepticism about the crowd's vibe.
• Connection sparked with another couple: "They were the ones that popped our cherry." — Eddie [11:27]
• First experience: After drinks, things escalated quickly; it was Ariel who initiated play with the other wife.
• Notable quote: "My wife, out of nowhere, starts playing with the wife of the other couple. I didn’t know that she had that in her." — Eddie [12:53]

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[13:58] The First Full Swap

• The couple had no explicit discussions beforehand about dos/don’ts, only an understanding about condom use.
• The night was unexpectedly "amazing":
  • Started in the kitchen, moved to the bedroom
  • “We all pretty much fucked each other. We all did everything.” — Eddie [15:03]
• Afterward, both Eddie and Ariel agreed—"Did you like it? ... Yes. Do you want to continue? ... Yeah."

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[16:15] SDC & Lifestyle Expansion

• The host of their first party introduced them to SDC.com—a “game-changer” for finding events, making friends, and discovering the local lifestyle scene.
• Eddie became the "hunter," organizing and vetting couples for compatibility and chemistry.
• Friendship growth: "From that point on we started meeting couples left and right and it just became friendships..." — Eddie [16:46]

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[20:20] 24-Hour Play Sessions & Communication

• Eddie describes non-stop sexual marathons with other couples, including overnight hotel stays:
  • “We were designed—took gallons of water, food... sex continuously for 24 hours.” — Eddie [20:20]
• Communication: "Every time we finish a session... Did you enjoy it? Are you okay? Communication... skyrocketed. No way that we've ever communicated the way that we communicate now." — Eddie [20:33]

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[22:30] From Orgy Guests to Orgy Hosts

• First orgy as guests felt “way too fast, way too soon”—not enough connection with partners.
• Solution: Eddie and Ariel began hosting their own group play parties, curating guest lists for maximum chemistry.
• “We started with, like, couple A will join us with couple B... And then all of a sudden, within a year, we become leaders of a group that we weren’t even a part of a year before.” — Eddie [23:55]

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[24:21] Training New Couples, Creating "Marathon" Orgies

• Eddie and Ariel purposely sought out "new in the lifestyle" couples to train in their style.
• "If nobody has a connection... you really don’t have that passionate, euphoric environment." — Eddie [24:42]
• Developed a rotation of about ten couples, resulting in regular, high-energy orgies lasting up to 12 hours.
• Eventually opened play to singles: "Singles became more of a number one play factor over the couples." — Eddie [25:11]

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[27:57] Sexual Fluidity & Bisexual Play

• Both partners' sexual boundaries evolved.
• “When you're in those environments... I realized it doesn't really matter what your orientation is. What matters is the amount of pleasure you can receive at that particular moment.” — Eddie [28:03]
• Eddie, having identified as straight, began experimenting with men: "Nothing ever felt bad. Everything felt good. So I started playing with guys..." — Eddie [29:18]
• Bisexual orgies became the new norm, with all-participant openness essential.

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[31:10] Favorite Scenarios

• On picking his "ideal" scenario: "I will pick a bisexual single guy. A threesome with a guy, those are the best between us two." — Eddie [31:20]

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[39:27] Ariel's Perspective: Initiation and Chemistry

• Ariel: “I was excited that I could explore every avenue sexually... I want to be as open sexually as I can and have fun.” — Ariel [38:57]
• Describes first four-way swap:
  • Strong chemistry with the other wife
  • Women led the play: “In the LS, women kind of lead the play.” — Ariel [42:32]
• Watching Eddie with another woman: "That is my turn-on, is knowing he's satisfying this other person." — Ariel [45:22]

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[50:45] Hot Stories: Orgies, Desires, and Airtight Fantasies

• Orgies organized with deep connections—"We met first, introduced them, and then we set a future day for all of us to meet at the house and kind of have our own play." — Ariel [48:01]
• Group play included fulfilling specific desires, such as gangbangs—Ariel: "I have this fantasy of being tag-teamed by a bunch of guys... while the wives watched." — Ariel [50:45]
• All desires (fantasies made real) openly shared and acted upon.

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[54:24] Bisexual Play: Compersion and Turn-On

• Ariel encouraged Eddie’s bisexual exploration: "You do what's comfortable for you... if you ever feel the need to explore with a guy, go for it."
• Watching Eddie with men became a major kink: “I was like, oh my God. And it turned me on so much. And I told him, like, I am really okay with this. It's such a turn on.” — Ariel [55:07]

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[59:58] Body Image & Female Empowerment

• Impact on confidence: "I never wore a bikini... I did hide my body a little bit, even though I was very confident. The lifestyle... taught me it doesn't matter what you look like, there's always somebody out there." — Ariel [59:58]
• Validation and body acceptance: “It solidified my confidence in my body... my husband finds me attractive, but it’s different when it’s another man.” — Ariel [61:26]
• Ariel’s message to women: "Confidence... I think a lot of it though is you have to be confident in yourself." — Ariel [64:26]

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Notable Quotes & Memorable Moments

• On discovering new desires:
  “Even airlock. Really airtight. Airtight, yeah. And another crazy night... all three couples are in the bedroom butt naked... Next thing I know, I've got one in every hole.” — Ariel [57:18]

• On being leaders:
  “Within a year, we become this... leaders of a group that we weren’t even a part of a year before. Now we have ten couples that are constantly in some sort of rotation.” — Eddie [23:55]

• On communication:
  “Communication... skyrocketed. No way that we've ever communicated the way that we communicate now on every single subject before.” — Eddie [20:33]

• On body acceptance:
  "The lifestyle for me has taught me that it doesn't matter what you look like, there's always somebody out there." — Ariel [59:58]

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Timestamps for Key Segments

• [08:19] — Eddie details the weight loss journey
• [09:22] — Sex life transformation post-weight loss
• [10:40] — Curiosity about opening up; first meet and greet
• [12:53] — The “cherry-popping” moment with another couple
• [15:03] — First full swap experience
• [16:15] — SDC.com and rapid expansion of their sex-positive circle
• [20:20] — 24-hour orgy marathons; catalyzing open communication
• [22:30] — Hosting and curating their own group orgies
• [24:21] — Hunting for new “trainable” couples
• [27:57] — Sexual fluidity: Eddie explores bi play
• [31:10] — Favorite scenarios (M/M/F threesomes)
• [38:57] — Ariel on being excited to sexually explore
• [42:32] — Details on how women lead the play
• [48:01] — Group-play success formula
• [50:45] — Ariel recounts her hottest gangbang fantasy
• [55:07] — Ariel discovering her kink for watching Eddie with other men
• [59:58] — Female empowerment and finding confidence through the lifestyle

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Final Takeaways

• Eddie and Ariel’s journey is a testament to how radical life change—beginning with personal health—can transform not just a relationship, but individual self-confidence and sexual fulfillment.
• The couple’s success is rooted in clear communication, mutual support, and a shared passion for adventure, exploration, and pleasure.
• Their story underscores the diversity and acceptance within the lifestyle—breaking taboos about sexuality, gender, and body image.
• Both partners emphasize that a happy, sexually open marriage is possible with trust, dialogue, and a willingness to grow together.

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For more adventures and confessions:

• Join Kathy’s Patreon for pics (anonymous), confessions, and ad-free episodes.
• Connect with the community on Discord (access via book or Patreon).

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“I always say, what is sexy? Sexy is like people who love sex and who love themselves. It’s a vibe, it’s an energy and that of thing you can’t change, it doesn’t matter.” — Kathy [64:39]

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Transcript

[Kathy]

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[Eddie]

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[Kathy]

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[Eddie]

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[Kathy]

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[Eddie]

You go to Singapore or Thailand, you can't not do it. The temptation is just too much.

[Kathy]

Does your friend know that you're banging her? No.

[Eddie]

No, he has no idea.

[Kathy]

And anything goes.

Motto of the show. Let your freak flag fly. Probably the only good advice I'll ever give you is to rehide your whips and ch.

Here is your host, Kathy.

Hey, welcome to the Strictly Anonymous Podcast with Kathy. If you want to follow the Strictly Anonymous podcast on Instagram or Twitter, follow me at Strict Anonymous if you want to be on the show. It's called Strict Strictly Anonymous because they change everyone's voices and names. Okay, so if you have an interesting, secret, naughty life that you want to talk about while remaining anonymous or not anonymous, if you're out and proud, you could email me at strictly anonymous podcastmail.com or go to my website, strictly anonymous podcast.com and click on be on the show. Now listen, I'm also looking for people that have any kind of, like, regular interesting stories or any kind of health journey stories, like you lost a lot of weight or you started working out and you completely transformed yourself or anything to do with health. If you have an interesting story, I do a Sexual Health Saturday series and I'm looking for regular people to call in and tell their health stories, if that makes sense on my show. You know, like I said, I mean email strictly anonymous podcast gmail.com. now listen, if you have a naughty confession you want to leave on my Confessions line, you could do that 247. The number is 347-420-3579. That's 347-420-3579. Call from a quiet place. I can't use ones when people call where they're driving. Some of those confessions make it onto a Confessions episode. The rest go on to my Patreon. Now, my Patreon is super fun and it's very inexpensive. If you ask me. It's only $7 a month and you get every single episode. I do seven episodes a week. You get every single one of them early before anyone gets them, as well as intro and ad free. You also all the Confessions and you also get Q&As that. I do like every other month where I answer a lot of questions as well as you get anonymous pics of probably every single girl that has called into my show. Every single female guest. I got pictures of them over on my Patreon. Like I said, it's $7 a month. The link to Patreon is in the description. If you do sign up for my Patreon or buy my book, I wrote a book. It's called Strictly Anonymous Confession, Secret Sex Lives of Total Strangers. It's all stories my show told in the third person. They're super fun. And the audiobook is coming out in August. So if you buy my book, either in paperback or ebook or audiobook version, the links are all in description. I will also give you access to my private Discord. Like I said, if you join my Patreon or if you call into my show or if you buy my book, I will give complimentary access to my private Discord. My Private Discord is not a paid site. It is free, but it is private and you can only get if I send you the link. I promise you, you will not be disappointed. My Discord is full of great effing people. Okay? So if you buy my book, send me a screenshot of your purchase and I will send you the link to my Discord. Last thing I'm going to tell you about is if you want to sign up for SDC.com I do have a free trial for my listeners. SDC is like the world's largest online dating website. And it's not just a place where you could hook up with people. You could learn all about the lifestyle. You could find out about all the lifesty events and meetups and all kinds of things going on in your neighborhood, as well as if you're going to travel and you want to have a little fun, you're going to find it all on SDC.com Like I said, you get a free trial if you use my code 37712 or just go to the description and click on the link. That's 37712. Or just go to the description and click on the link. So today I have on Eddie and Ariel. You're gonna love them as a couple. They're effing great. Okay. I included their episode recently in a confessions episode. Their in a confessions episode recently because they did call up and said, hey, we're a couple. We lost a lot of weight. And then we got in the lifestyle and now we're open and we've had some hiccups, but things are like, couldn't be any better. And I was like, okay, let's hear their whole story. So I talk to Eddie first, and then I talked to Arielle. They both give lots of details of a lot of hot scenarios. This is a couple that did lose a lot of weight. I asked Eddie about that in the beginning, and he does talk real quick about, like, how they lost all the weight, which is super interesting because I always think everyone, it's not like they did like the shots that everyone's doing now and stuff. So we talk about that. But then we do talk about their transition into the lifestyle because after they lost weight, they both became super horny. Like, seriously, this was a very vanilla couple. They got super horny after they lost the weight, and then they decided to open up. They went to a meet and greet. They talk about the couple they met there. And after they met that couple, it was just like on. And they did everything. They talk about that first time they met up with the couple and the first time they did a couple swap and then they wound up at an orgy at some place at some point, and they weren't really into it, so they started doing their owns. They started setting up lifestyle groups, their own group. And they talk all about that, how they set it up, the couples that they pick, how they vetted people what they taught them to do and why that led to them having the hottest orgies ever. And they talk about all of it. Ariel comes on second and she gives a lot of details. She's really open and into so many different things. She's talks about the time where she was airtight. She did a gang bang. She's done orgies with women only. She's very open. Eddie's very open, too. He's hooked up with guys. They're both down for that. She's very into Persian. He is, too. You're going to hear all about it. There's lots of details. Trust me. I didn't give away the whole episode here in the intro. Okay, don't worry about it. So you're getting a listen. You're going to love them. They're a great couple. I have pics of them over on my Patreon links in the description. Anyway, I'm going to be back on first with Eddie and then I talk to Ariel.

This is the Strictly Anonymous podcast. Strictly Anonymous podcast.

Hi, Eddie. Eddie and Ariel, I'm going to be talking to both you and your wife today. You guys made it to one of my confessions hotline recently. I did post your confession that you left on my hotline. You were a couple that started swinging. You're in the lifestyle. We're going to get into all those naughty details. But what was interesting about your story? I just want to know real quick how you did lose a lot of weight. Like, you were like. I kind of tagged you guys as, like, the couple that started swinging after weight loss. You both lost a lot of weight together. Could you just tell me real quick? We're gonna first, just so you know, everybody listening. We're gonna talk to Eddie first, like I normally do, and then Ariel. So, Eddie, how did you. Quick, because we want to get to the juicy stuff. How did you guys lose so much weight?

[Eddie]

I had a, hey, Kathy, how are you? Oh, yeah, but we did. We did a. I had a health scare pretty much, and I was forced to lose a lot of weight, and it was pretty much either do it or you die type of thing. And I did tell her that we needed to do this whether she wanted to do it or not. And we got really, really serious about it and we did it. And it took us four years to do it all. Oh, God. We started a boot camp working out, and we changed our whole entire lifestyle. We went from eating unhealthy to eating the most healthiest way that you can possibly can.

[Kathy]

Yeah, amazing. So you did it with diet and exercise. So you did it with diet and exercise?

[Eddie]

Yeah, boot camp. And we went into CrossFit and we got really into CrossFit and did all that. And at one point we even owned a CrossFit gym too. Yeah, it was a huge lifestyle change, which we still follow to this day. But that's literally how our story started. It was all through the weight loss, and then it just kind of kicked off from there.

[Kathy]

Why? Because you felt so hot after you lost all the weight?

[Eddie]

Oh, pretty much.

[Kathy]

But wait a sec. Okay, so you lost all that weight and then how was your sex life before? Were you always vanilla? Had you been discussing, like, opening up your relationship or something? Or did this come out, like, strictly right after you lost the weight?

[Eddie]

No, we were at vanilla, if you can possibly be vanilla too. We. We didn't. We didn't talk about it. We didn't do anything. We were the traditional couple, missionary style, get it over with and go to bed type of thing. Our sex life, if you describe. If put it. I don't know, look at it now and look at it before. It sucked pretty much. I will say, and I think in the confession that I left, we. We were. Had sex maybe once a week, once every two weeks, and that was enough for us. And then through this whole process, I don't know what happens to the human body, but it just skyrocketed. Our libido immediately after we started exercising, eating healthy. It was like we were horny all the time. It was like, what's going on? And it went from having that little bit of sex to it started twice a week and then three times a week, and then every single day, and then two, three times a day.

[Kathy]

So how did it come up to start bringing others in or doing whatever you did?

[Eddie]

I will say sexually, my wife is a lot more open. She's had sexual experience with girls in the past, but we as a couple never brought that up. At that time. We were like 17 years into our marriage and we were just pretty vanilla. But me, I started to look into different avenues of making it more exciting. And I was looking into maybe doing Borism or having sex in front of people. And we live in Florida, so there's a club in. In town that we wanted to visit. Or I started looking into and I started doing my research on Facebook. So I. Because it started coming up and I asked her if she was interested in doing something like that and having sex in front of other people. And she was like, oh, let's talk about it. Let's Think about it. And we never did anything about it or even until this day, we haven't even gone to any clubs yet. But that led to going to nude beaches. That led into, and I think Facebook, also their algorithm. Once you start looking into something, it starts throwing you ads about other stuff. I got an ad of a group that actually meets in the downtown area where we live. And I asked her if she wanted to do something like that. It was kind of like a meet and greet at a bar. And then from that time on, we. I asked her if she wanted to go. We went. Of course, we're both scared as. Because we have no idea what we're going through or getting into. Sincerely, I thought every guy was a creep and everybody was like a sex offender of some sort. And I just didn't know what to expect. Yeah, so we got there. We get there early. We didn't know that the party started a lot later in the meet and greet, and we literally sat on the corner and. And just kind of like observed from the background. And I was really overprotective over my wife. And I just told her, if nothing happens, nothing happens. If something happens where we talk to somebody, that, hey, the cool thing about it is there was a club right next door that we were able to dance and pretty much have fun, the two of us. That same night, we got very, very tipsy, and we were about to close the bar tab and we meet a couple. That couple was like, hey, we've been looking at you guys for a while, but you guys haven't been, like, hanging out. You just been kind of going back and forth. And we got to connect with them. And that's kind of where our story start. That particular couple we did hooked up about a week later. They were kind of like the ones. My wife says they're the ones that popped our cherry. And then from that point on, it was just, like, amazing. The first time that we met with them, of course, we're driving over to their house and we're just scared as hell. We don't know what to do, how to do this stuff or anything. Everything has been like research that you see online of what to do, how to do it. But we met them. They made us feel very, very comfortable. They just made us feel comfortable with each other. And my wife, out of nowhere, starts playing with the wife of the other couple. And I didn't know that she had that in her. And they both started in the stuff that I was seeing. It was just, wow. I didn't know that she Was that open? We never even discussed it.

[Kathy]

Yeah, because you didn't really probably think you were ever gonna move forward with anything. Even when you were meeting that couple, did you think, oh, we're gonna sleep with them? But you guys just didn't discuss, like, what you can or cannot do.

[Eddie]

I thought we were gonna probably go to first base, maybe second base, and that's it. And, like, rope around or anything. It ended up that we started in the kitchen. We, of course, we were all drinking and we were having a nice discussion, talking about our lives, and then all of a sudden, one hand moves to a boob, the other hand moves to the other boob, and dresses start coming off and a booty jumps on the. On the countertop, and my wife starts going down on her. And I'm, like, looking at the other guy, which now he's my personal friend. He's. Am I seeing this? And of course, they've been in the lifestyle for a while now, and he's relaxed, just enjoy the. And go from there. And I'm following his leaders, like, okay, cool, I'll just relax and just watch. And they were the ones that kind of lead us into this world of, I call it fun and relax and being open with each other. From there. We jumped into the bedroom and the night just seemed like it went from, I don't know, two hours. It felt like it went for eight hours or so. It was just the most amazing night that we've had. But we all pretty much fucked each other. We all did everything. It was just an amazing night. By the time we left the house, me and my wife were like, did we just do that? What did we do? No discussion of how, when, or if we were going to do it. The main discussions that we were going to, we knew that we had to do is use condoms, be as safe as possible and go that route. And. But it was just. I think it opened up something in our brain that we were just, did you like it? She was like, yes. And she asked me the same thing, and I told her, yes, do you want to continue this type of lifestyle? She's like, yeah. So we met them a couple of more times after that, from there, actually, on that same night that we joined the club, the host of the party, she gave us a little business card with one of the sites that you join, and the site was sdc.

[Kathy]

Oh, wait, I gotta give a shout out to sdc, because now that is the one app or the one website that I promote, and I do have a deal with them. Like, My custom, my listeners get 14 day free trial with them. So I'll put the link to my SDC 14 day free trial in the below because most people talk about sec. They love it like it's a great place to find out about events and groups and meet other people and stuff. Like they have everything you need right there. So. So anyone that wants to join SCC after you hear just go to the link in the description. Anyway, go on. Sorry.

[Eddie]

So we did join that about maybe a week later where I started like putting our profile and setting our profile together and oh my God, from that point on we started meeting couples left and right and it just became friendships that we started making with these people.

[Kathy]

Okay, one thing I know for sure is great sex doesn't happen in a hurry. It happens when you teach. Take your time. Whether you're with your partner or not, rushing to the finish line is never ideal. So this July, why not give your body or your partner's body your full attention and rediscover how good unhurried sex really is. And while you're at it, why not learn a new thing or two? And you know where you're going to learn a new thing? It's on beducated. Beducated.com is like the Netflix of sex education. They have courses on everything from yoni massage to sex positions, guided masturbation and oral sex courses. They literally have something for everyone. Want to learn some new tricks to use on your girl the next time you go down on her? Well, take their cunnilingus course. It features 10 different new moves that you could try that are going to blow your girl's mind. And the best thing about betrocated is you're going to learn those moves by seeing a guy doing them. That's right. Most of their courses include a video tutorial featuring real hot humans guiding you. You're not just going to learn by reading about it, you learn by seeing it in action. So what are you waiting for? Go check out Educated. All you got to do is go to the description, click on the link, and you're going to get your own personalized roadmap to a slower, more pleasurable sex life. That's right. It's super easy. Just go to the description, click on the link to get your personalized roadmap to better Got a Sam's Cafe pizza.

[Eddie]

Order up.

[Kathy]

You know the best part about this spicy Italian sausage? I voted for this topping. Yeah, just another perk of being a member. Come join us.

[Eddie]

Sam's Club from one we went to the second, to a third, to a fourth. And little by little, we just had a bunch of different plane friends throughout the area that we live in. And every experience was just one bigger than the other, bigger than the other, bigger than the other. One couple that we met, which they were also going through the same lifestyle experience as us. They. We had an experience with them on a major football holiday. And we were supposed to have that and watch it and eat wing like everybody else does. But we did not do any of that. We literally had a marathon and night of pretty much sex all night long. It started around, I don't know, 6 or 7pm and I don't think we stopped until 6 in the morning. And it was just crazy. When I tell you crazy. It was just a connection that even the guy and I and the girls had. And everything was just so mutually hot and euphoric. That same couple one time asked us. They were like they were coming to our town, was like, hey, we're staying at a hotel. Do you guys want to come over? And yes. That was our first time that we've ever pretty much had sex continuously for 24 hours.

[Kathy]

Wow.

[Eddie]

Of course, with breaks.

[Kathy]

Yeah, yeah. But sex the whole time. Crazy.

[Eddie]

Yeah, it was. We. We all four of us prepared. We all took like gallons of water. We took food. We. We were designed to not.

[Kathy]

Survival. You're in survival mode. We're gonna survival. So fun.

[Eddie]

And we did it and it was an amazing time. And every time we were. We finish a session or a playtime with somebody or a couple, we both looked at each other. Did you enjoy it? Are you okay? We. Communication between the both of us just skyrocketed. No way that we've ever communicated the way that we communicate now on every single subject before. I will tell you, that wasn't even there. We were just talking husband and wife type of thing. But now my wife knows my deeper inner sexual wantings. Not only that, but pretty much every little thing that happens in my life. She knows we're very, very open with each other now. So communication is just so much clearer. And I think LS has pretty much helped jump start that. It's amazing. From that point on, we decided to start. Within 30 days or 40 days after we started doing this crazy stuff, we landed our first orgy. We went to that same bar that I was telling you about. And we were all dressed in costumes and stuff. And all of a sudden the hottest girl ever comes and kisses my wife out of nowhere. And she just tells her, you are so hot and I'm like, oh, yeah, she's hot, too. And they were like, I want you to come to our house. We're heading back home. Do you guys want to come over? My wife looks at me. She looked. I look at her, and I'm like, it's up to you. She's just like, yeah, let's go. Within 30 minutes, there's five couples, if I'm not mistaken, in the house. We're the last ones to get there. The only downside to that is we're brand new. We have no idea to what to expect, what to do. That was probably the. It was. Even though the whole experience was nice and hot, that's what guided us to do our own thing, because we couldn't connect with people. I think it was way too fast, way too soon, and we didn't know who else was. So what we decided after that experience is we're going to be doing this. We need to connect and have that connection with that other either couple or single. So we started hosting our own parties, and the people that we started meeting through that app, and we literally started connecting couples with couples that we knew that will play together well. And at one point, we started, okay, let's start this. We started with, like, couple A will join us with couple B. And we'll join us. That went fantastic. And was like, oh, my God, it's amazing. Now we all know each other. How about if we include couple C into this thing? And then all of a sudden, yes, next weekend we do that, and we all interconnect. And then all of a sudden, within a year, we become this. I call it leaders of a group that we weren't even a year late, a year before, we weren't even part of. And now we have 10 couples that are constantly in some sort of a rotation. But I think we were just going really turbo and really, really fast on what we were doing. We're the type of couple that once we decide on something, we are comfortable, we're doing it. We're. We're just go 100 miles an hour and just go full, full. Look pretty much forward with it.

[Kathy]

That's why you're the leader of this group. You guys were the perfect people because you do like to take the reins and do it, and you're gonna. And all those other couples probably totally appreciate it because it's probably not their thing to set. Set it all up and do it. But that's how you guys.

[Eddie]

The kinky. Or I call it kinky, but the cool side of things. Is we were focusing. We call it hunting. We were going hunt for couples either on a nap or at a bar.

[Kathy]

Yeah.

[Eddie]

So we used to hunt for couples that were just like us, new in the lifestyle. They were pretty much. They didn't have any type of experience. It was easy enough for us to train them our way and letting know how we work. So when they. We do do this parties connection is hot and neutral between everybody and everybody has a great time. We learned very, very. Yeah. Early that if nobody has a connection. Yeah, everybody can have sex. But you really don't have that sensual, passionate, euphoric environment if nobody knows each other. It's just a quick transaction. So these parties is starting and being very, very exotic and erotic. Where once it started, we call them marathon sessions where it's just constantly for 10, 12 hours people are just having sex. And it was just ongoing without stopping. It was just mind boggling of wow, this exists. People actually do this. And it just got better and better. Then we started playing. After all of that, we opened up to playing with singles. So we discussed it and was like, it's just something that we want to do. Both my wife and I, we agreed. So we started playing with single girls and single guys. That was a lot easier than playing with couples because it's a lot easier to just communicate with one person instead of three or four or five different people. Singles became more of a number one play factor over the couples. It was a lot easier to schedule. It was a lot easier to get them to our either hotel, wherever it is that we were meeting. So it was just way, way easier to set up meets with singles than actual couples. But yeah, everything that we did was just phenomenal. And then of course we started buying pineapples. Everything. Our house just became a pineapple haven of everything.

[Kathy]

You guys really. Do you commit? I love it.

[Eddie]

Oh, we commit. 100. And we're the type of people that we own our own business. So it doesn't really matter. We don't hide. We always tell people. We don't hide it, but we don't advertise it.

[Kathy]

Yeah.

[Eddie]

But if anybody asks, we will literally tell them. I. We don't. We're not afraid. We're not scared. We don't. We don't. We're not ashamed of it. It's what we do. So that's. And it somehow radiated because even our close friends started asking, what are you guys doing? You guys seem too happy, too bubbly and. And we were like, nothing, nothing. Even though it started like leaking and then One found out is that you guys are doing something naughty. And my wife told her.

[Kathy]

Yeah.

[Eddie]

And then from there, it's kind of like spread with wildfire. So we have even our close personal friends new and we're the type of couple, if you like it, stay with us. If you don't go away, it doesn't really matter. So that's kind of our story of this whole entire selection of playtime and play sessions and how we got into this world of playing. If I go into each individual story, and each individual will take way too long.

[Kathy]

No, no, we're gonna get some hot stories from Arielle and stuff for sure. But let me ask you this. It sounds like you've done it all right? You've done the threesome with the girl, you've done the threesome with the guy, you've done the. Or done the couple swap. You know what? Is there anything that stands out that's like your favorite and why?

[Eddie]

If I have to say something, I will say the opening of both of us. When we started doing this, of course we went in being straight as an arrow and being only with a girl. She's only with a guy. She will play with a girl at the very beginning. That's usually how these kind of play style go. And all of a sudden, a year into it, when you're in those environment that everybody's just in this passionate ball of sex in one bed or two beds, I realize it doesn't really matter what your orientation is. What matters to me is the amount of pleasure you can receive at that particular moment. So I told my wife and I asked her, like, will you be upset or anything if I do anything with a guy or. And vice versa. And she was like, you want to do it? More than welcome to. So we started looking for people that were more bisexual or pansexual in a way. There was no written rules of you can't touch me, you can't do this. Don't touch me. Over there, we find a lot of guys that were pretty homophobic that your dick can touch my dick. We can't do DVP. You can't do this. You have to stand 10ft away from me. Don't touch me. It was like those were kind of odd situations when we started figuring out our sexual endeavors, I guess, or preferences. We started figuring out it's a lot easier when everybody's all on the same page and there's no discomfort of anything. That's when I started dabbling and playing with guys. And at one point, I Told my wife, I'm doing everything. If everything feels good, if it doesn't feel good to me, I'll stop. But if it feels good, I'll continue. And guess what? Nothing ever felt bad. Everything felt good. So I started playing with guys, and little did I know a lot of the couples that we started putting together for these parties, all the guys were feeling the same way as we were. And literally we started saying to them, it was like, if you guys want to do something or wanted to play together, just let us know. And a lot of them were like, I'm open. I'm open. Everybody was like, open. It's like, oh. So these orgies became more of, like, bisexual orgies than anything. It was like all everybody was for everybody. And it just became into this. I don't know how to describe it. It's just hotness. When it was. When we were in those situations that it didn't matter if I was with a guy or she was with a girl, or we were two girls, one guy, three guys, one girl. It didn't matter. There was no judgment zone within the play itself. So it was just amazing. And that's how we kind of, till this day play. We typically, if we are going to be playing, we like to play with somebody that has no inhibitions and it's free sexually, regardless of what their orientation in the vanilla world is.

[Kathy]

So if you had to pick, say, tomorrow night, you're, like, super horny. You're like, we got to make something happen tomorrow. And you get to pick your favorite thing because it's your birthday. What do you pick? Mmf. Threesome. Do you pick an orgy? Do you pick seeing your girl with another girl?

[Eddie]

I will say we. I will pick a bisexual single guy. A threesome with a guy, though, those are the best between us two.

[Kathy]

Yeah.

[Eddie]

If I had to take.

[Kathy]

Yeah, that's your choice. I'll ask her the first the same question. That's interesting. So you're kind of like, do you do. Now that you hook up with guys? You had never hooked up with guys before this?

[Eddie]

No, never.

[Kathy]

Right. So do you find. Because, listen, I've had a lot of conversations about this topic and some a lot of times, and I've had a lot of different questions, like, do people. Do you consider yourself bisexual now? Do you or is it just like a matter of if it's like, you're just so into sex that whatever it is, it's like, good. Like, you're like, hedonistic or do you feel bisexual?

[Eddie]

You're one of my favorite podcasts to listen to. And you had a lot of people talk about this. This subject a lot.

[Kathy]

Yeah.

[Eddie]

Including a doctor guy. So romantically, I've learned this, that romantically, I'm attracted to a woman, which is my wife. It's. But when it comes to having sex, I am open to anything. I don't know if it. What term or what category I fall in. It's just when I am having sex, I'm very, very open towards anything that gives or gives, receives, or gives pleasure.

[Kathy]

Yeah, I like that. And the communication thing, I've heard a million times you did say that it just changed the game as far talking about. Not just about sex, but about everything. Right. And that it made you feel so much closer because now you're so open, like, you're like, she knows every little bit of me. And there's something to that that I think a lot of people don't understand. And a lot of people on the outside that look down on people that are in the lifestyle that open up their marriages, they just assume without knowing anything and without talking to any couples and without doing any kind of research that it's just. You're doomed for failure. It means you don't love each other. Even fucking Dr. Drew, I used to love him. He's such a. When you hear him talk about. He's never talked to one person. I've talked to people for 12 years. 12 years. I have over 800 episodes. Like, I go listen to my stuff. I'll give you so many couples that they'll tell you why they. They're closer

[Eddie]

people. And don't tell me, Don't. Don't get me wrong. Even through the whole entire years that we've been doing it, we've had. We have one major hiccup, but we. Sometimes we don't agree in different things, and one gets upset over the other. But conversation and communication always gets us over that hump. But nothing's perfect. But I will tell you, it's probably the we now. We've been married 19, but I will tell you it's probably been. I feel closer to her now than even the first year that we got married.

[Kathy]

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[Eddie]

So she's sitting right next to her. I'll give her the phone.

[Kathy]

Okay. Thanks so much for calling for talking, Eddie.

[Eddie]

No problem.

[Kathy]

Hi Arielle.

Hello.

Hi Arielle. Welcome to Strictly podcast. Now you heard our whole story. I Love your guy's story. I love how you guys roll. Are you both leaders? Is your guide the one who pulls in the reins and says, hey, let's like lose weight, let's join the lifestyle and you're just like right there with them. Who's the driving force or you just both that way?

We are definitely both that way.

Yeah. That's awesome.

He had his hair, his health scares. And I told him it's time that we resolute, be healthy. We have kids, so we want to be there for our kids as long as possible. And I told him if we do this, we the whole family does it. So it changed our whole lifestyle, not just the two of us, but even our kids.

Yeah, I could imagine.

Change the diet, full exercise. I was the one kind of controlling the meals. And every time we needed to up, let's say our protein intake, I was taking. If our weight kind of just plateaued and we weren't losing any weight or gaining muscle, you had a tweak your diet a little bit and I was the one on top of all that.

So you're both like, like the take charge people and that's why you make a great team. Right. And you're setting up all these parties and orgies and stuff because you're both kind of leaders. Your guy though, did say that in the beginning, like that you had, you were more open than him. Like you had been with people, be women before. Was that like a college thing? I made out with a girl. When did you hook up with women before you were married?

Yes. So it was like that college phase. I never really had a girlfriend or anything like that, but I of course experimented. But I prefer, prefer men. So I fell madly in love with my husband and we got married and it was he. I was always open about it. Yes, I've been with women. It's not where I want a relationship, but it was fun when I did it.

But so when you got back in

the life, always known what that.

So he always knew that you had done that?

Oh, yes.

Yeah, yeah, yeah. So when you got back in the lifestyle, were you excited to hook up with women before or you're like, you said, like it's not really your thing, but you'll do it in the moment.

I was excited that I could explore every avenue sexually.

Right.

It wasn't like, I want to be in the lifestyle because I want to be with the women. It's I want to be in the lifestyle because I want to be as open sexually as I can and have

fun yeah, yeah, totally. So now when your husband came to you and said, hey, let's go to the. Well, first it was like, let's post pics, right? And then. But then you wind up going to that meet and greet. Like, how was that experience for you? And did you. Were you totally into that couple when you first met them?

It actually is. That whole thing was kind of funny because he came up to me and I introduced the whole voyeurism and I told him, okay, send me the research that you have and listening to podcasts and, and reading. I was the one that came to him and said, well, what if we just swing? I like the idea of that. When he brought up the meet and greet, it was kind of scary because I didn't know what to expect. The crowd at the beginning wasn't really what I think we were looking for. But as the night got later, we met the couple and I was nervous. She was hot, he was hot, and I, we had great chemistry and conversation. We like to group chat. We like to like both parties and the couple to be involved so that there's no misunderstanding. There's also that connection between the four of us, so we're comfortable with each other when we get into those settings. And the chemistry between the four of us was amazing. So when we got to that first meet, it was nerve wracking. After drink or two, it was game on.

I know. And he said that you were the one that hit it off, right? So you were obviously attracted to the woman and just tell me like how that experience was for you or explain it in detail if you want.

I was, I still attracted to her actually. She's probably my favorite female partner to still play with. We just have very, very good chemistry. I am very much about energy. Like that energy does have to flow from me to you. And she, what I gave, she gave back. So it just was very hot and intense. So if I go up to her and I give her a kiss, she comes back. Next thing we're making out for like good to three minutes. And I think everybody has their stableness in by play. For me, I have always been completely open to everything. So I started kind of making out with her at the to the bar and next thing I know, I'm taking her dress off, she's taking my shirt off, her clothes come on, my clothes come off. And then I pick her up and put her on the kitchen counter and just of spread her legs and go at her.

And that your husband was like, what the going on? He was totally into it he didn't realize that's what he was going to say.

Well, honestly I didn't realize that's what I was going to say either.

Yeah.

But in that moment, like I said, the energy between her and I is, is very intense. So it's just, it felt comfortable at that moment today like and we kept on playing and then we, the girls, of course I feel like in the LS women kind of lead the play. The men may set it up but see what happens during play is led by women. We kind of came up for air, was like let's go to the bedroom. I like to say at some point I love five plate but at some point you just needed chicken you. So it was at that moment like we looked up, I'm like let's take it to the bedroom. And we went in full swap. While we got to the bedroom and I played a little bit and then from then on it was full swap for the four of us, no hesitation. We didn't have a lot of rules at that moment other than we play together in the same room.

So how was it though for you? Because like you guys didn't really, I think it sounds like and I think your husband said it like you didn't really think like anything was even going to go down that first time. But it went all the way full swap. Everyone was with everybody. Totally great. Right. How was it for you seeing your guy with another guy, I mean with another woman because he was swapping. This is obviously the first time you've seen your husband another girl out

for me. So when we first started, when he first brought it up to the first time we swapped with this couple, it literally was about six weeks and we've never done anything before. So it was a little nerve wracking thinking what would happen.

Yeah.

But it was the hottest thing I think I've ever experienced it. For me it wasn't about what he was doing with her as far as oh, he's having sex with somebody else. For me it turned out to be and it still is is more of her. Yeah, I know what he's doing to her and I know it's driving her wild and that is a turn off on and watching him give her, satisfying her, it's such a turn on. It's still to this day where there's a woman or a man that he's with, I, I still like that is my turn on is knowing he's satisfying this other person and that person gets to experience what I get to experience.

Yeah, that's called conversion. And you hear it a lot when guys are talking about their hot wives and that's what it's all about for them. And it's a lot of times for women, same thing when they're doing this. I've heard it from them too. Now, how about for you? This was the first time you were like screwing another guy. I know you were ready for a dick in you at that point. You said, you know, what was that experience like? You've been monogamous to this guy all this time. 17 years. Now all of a sudden you're with another guy. Just. Was it just like super hot too?

Yes, it was for me, a little nerve wracking. Like it's our first time, but I think that we were just both in the moment while being with him. I could hear my husband and the other wife and that was just such a turn on. I was turned on, he was turned on. And. And it was a very. It was a great experience. There was no regret. No. Once we got into it, it was like no real. Nobody was nervous, Everybody was comfortable. We'd been chatting. So we've gotten to know each other a little bit. I think that helped a lot for us. I think we're not very much dtf and that connection of at least I know a little bit about you helps with the easiness of play. The other thing is, since we've been chatting, we kind of already told each other what we like. We don't like do's and don'ts. I don't like my toes licked or my ears licked. So that experience, I think was in part very good because we had already kind of had that talk. Because I always tell the couples that we need is I need to know what you like, what you don't like. Because our time is limited. We're here to have fun. I don't want to be guessing what you like, what you don't like. If I already know. Yeah, right. If I already know. We're going to have an amazing time.

Yeah, totally. It's smart. And that's what you guys did because you did take the lead and start creating these groups and stuff. Right. And you brought in a lot of couples. And that. Is that just how you started, did things moving forward with the other couples just so you could recreate that same great chemistry you had with the first one.

Yes. Well, so it. I know he mentioned that we landed in a orgy like maybe 30 days later.

Yeah.

And we, and we tried. We. We landed on a second one maybe another 30 days from that, and they weren't the best experiences. But what I learned from those is that, like I said, we're not dtf. So on our. Actually, from the last one, on our way back, I was like, if we introduce this couple that we've played with, with this couple, I think there would be great chemistry because they play similar. And I think it'd be great to just bring into the house and, you know, well, we met first, introduced them, and then we set a future day for all of us to meet at the house and kind of have our own play or the old together, which we did that. And then what that allowed was the other two couples played together in between. And then when we met back at our house, all six of us knew each other, have played with each other, and it was one of those, like, time warp. Like, you look up and it's five hours later and nobody has taken a break, and you're like, what the heck is going on? It just happened that both of the couples, their husbands were open to explore their bisexual guy. So besides, it ended up being just kind of like a free fall, and it was amazing. So once that set the tone of how we kind of like to group play, it just became that.

[Eddie]

That.

[Kathy]

So we started, okay, we've got three. Three couples. Who's the next one that we can add? And we met couples that were like, no, they're not. They're not the right fit. And then we would meet that one couple that we were like, that's our fourth couple. That's our fifth couple. And we also. It wasn't that we would invite them to the party. No, it was more of, here's this other couple. You guys do whatever you want with each other. We're all playing. And then every so many months, we would do one huge group play, because with all people, it would be amazing. Yeah, everybody knew each other. Opposed that. Setting it up and meeting for the first time in group play. So it kind of became like a public kind of group play. Everybody would bring a dish, we would talk, hang out, and then all night long, we watch, literally, the sun go down and the sun come up.

How many guys in a night was, like, the most that you had sex with?

Five. So we did have one of those group plays where we were taking a break, and I kind of stepped in and said, I have this fantasy of being tag team. A bunch of guys.

Oh, okay.

You ladies be okay if I borrow your husband's for a little bit and let them have at me? And the wives were like, yeah, sure. One of them picked up my husband's phone to kind of take some pictures and videos for us to remember. And they just watched kind of like a gang bang.

Don't you think?

Think, yeah. While the wife watched.

Yeah.

Which was after, to me, made it hotter. And it kind of became also something like we did during our group play fan. Like, little fantasies like that. Okay. I like to call them desires because you are able to accomplish them. Fantasy is something that will never be able to happen. Like, my husband's in love with Chiquita and that is his fantasy to be with her.

Not gonna happen.

Yeah. In this group plays their desires. And the wives are like, hey, what if, when we take a break, is it okay if we fulfill this desire of mine? And we were like, okay. And the, you know, rest of the wives sit back and watch or husbands or whatever happened. And those group scenarios. There weren't a lot of guys wanting to watch the women because we always started, usually the first who got the thing started with the women. With the women. So the guys got this amazing show of 5, 6, 7 women with each other. We would get on the bed and we would just. I would. Yeah. I don't know how to explain it. It's an orgy, but just women.

Yeah.

And the guys would just kind of sit back and watch until one of us was like, I need a ticket, me. And then the guys would come over.

How many women was the most in that? A five.

We had a group of seven women.

Wow.

We did have a unicorn that we're still friends, but she's in a relationship now. She's taking a break from the ls. So we had a unicorn and a bull that we would also incorporate when they were available. So sometimes we had an extra female, sometimes we had an extra male. And it was just, I. I like things that you kind of, I don't know, see in movies or porn. It was just very surreal for us. But it definitely became same part of our lives as far as lifestyle. We really merged it with our personal life. For example, we, those same couples, we do vanilla things. We'll have beach days with our family. We'll go to a bar and just have dinner and drinks. All of us as a group. So it literally became our lifestyle trial.

Right. That's interesting. Let me ask you this, because your husband started to play with guys and stuff. It sounds like you're obviously into it. Do you remember when he told you and how you felt about that? Or did it just come up during orgy?

So it Was something that from the get go, I've always told him I from the beginning, I explore my bisexual side. And I always told him there is no limit on what you can explore. So whatever you're comfortable with, I'm comfortable with. So if you ever feel the need to explore with a guy, go for it. The only thing is I will tell you after if I didn't like it or if it just wasn't something that I felt comfortable with with. So I. He never put any rules for me for bot play and I never had any rules for him for bot play. You do what's comfortable for you. I feel like we're in this to explore our sexual side of us. Why am I putting restrictions on what you can do with another man if that's what you want want? And so, you know, he would make comments here and then I'd be like, whatever you want. Whatever you want. Until actually that first group play that we kind of put together, I think it kind of led my, I don't know. Desire is more of my kink to watch him. The girls, girl. The girls and I, we were kind of dancing, touching and feeling each other making out. And one of the husbands is going out on my husband and no, sorry, my husband's going down on one of the other husbands and it's hot. But then he all of a sudden gets up, walks over to the other husband and the other husband starts to go down on him. And I just froze. It was like, it was so intense and hot that I was like, oh my God. And it turned me on so much. And I told him like, I am really okay with this. It's such a turn on. So I'm very big on the compression. So I will sit out and watch him play with another male. He will watch me play with other guys. I will will sit and just watch the two of them play. And it's such a turn on.

Isn't that surprising?

Yes. I always knew I would be comfortable because it's not something that bothers me. But I didn't know that I would enjoy watching it as much as I do.

Yeah. But it really is the whole conversion thing that's like what you're really, really into. Have you done like DP and DVP and all that kind of stuff in the middle of all these kinds of crazy orgies that you've had Pad?

Yes. Pretty much everything has been checked off the list. Even airlock. Really airtight. Airtight, yeah. And another crazy night. We had a couple over and one of our Other couple friends ended their date play date early. And we get a phone call and they're like, hey, I play date in the early. Do you mind? I know you remember with this couple, you and I would come over, we're in the middle of play butt naked. I think I'm with the husband and the wife. We're having kind of like a threesomeness is kind of watching and the husband's kind of watching. And then he picks up the phone, hey, can we come over? We talked to a couple, they said, yeah, sure, that's fine. Because we all know each other. And the next thing he's like, oh, well, can you open the front door? And my husband's like, are you here? And they're like, yeah. Next thing we know, all three couples are in the bedroom butt naked. And my husband, hey, I've always wanted to see my wife with the two of you. Do you mind if we borrow your husband and let them watch them have a threesome? And the wife were like, yeah, that's fine. And next thing I know, it's dp, I have one of them analy one of a vagina. Next thing I feel is the bed moving. My husband jumps on the bed, gets in front of me and oh, airtight in my mouth. Next thing I know, I've got one in every hole. Yeah. And one of the wives again picks up a phone and like, you have have to take a picture of this because it's something to remember. And it was amazing all the way around. And it's always been. We've always been very open about it.

Huh?

It's not. We're very shy.

No, I mean, listen, that's why you've checked off everything on your box, because you guys are just open. It sounds like you never really ever had any kind of boundaries and were. Were very okay and clear about everything right from the get go. I know he said you had some hiccups and stuff, but how is being in the lifestyle for you as a woman? Because so many women are so repressed when it comes to sex and stuff. And you've just been like, really open and doing all these crazy things and like, how has it changed you as a woman?

For me, as a woman, I would say I've always been a confident person. Like I always say, I am not a Barbie, I am a mom, and I am women. And I have my, what I call my life scars in my body. But there's always this, even in porn, there's always this ideal image. And what I found in the Lifestyle is that that ideal image isn't set in stone. Ideal image is what that other person finds as a. As attractive and a turn on. So I found myself a lot of the time with women who have that perfect body and we're but naked and I am being desired as much as she is. So for me, I think is that I was one of those that I never wore a bikini. I, I didn't want to address conservative but I did hide my body a little bit even though I was very confident. The lifestyle for me has taught me that it doesn't matter what you look like, there's always somebody out there. My husband typed me very attractive. But it's your husband. It almost feels well, he has to because he's your husband. So it's different when it's another man. And I think it got my. It solidified my confidence in my body. Not just myself, but my body. So like for me, I think as a woman that was very important. And then I also feel like because we're so open sexually and everything is on the table, communication, it's so open. And it's not just about LS communication about everything in our life. And I also feel because a lot of the conversations about the ls it's all sexual. It also, and I think it's one of the hiccups that we hit that we have to learn that communication isn't just talking. Communication is understanding what the other person is saying. So then you really do have to listen to each other other than just few words out 100.

That's what it's all about for sure. And I just have to say as a woman, I think that that is great. Got that sort of truth about your body and, and you feel sexier because of it and realize like guys like you. Because I think porn and the media not so much now anymore because the media is so different and it's amazing that they just have all different body types out there. But I always knew because I had so many guy friends that guys like a lot of different things. But I think so many women think like you got to be skinny and perfect for a guy to think you're hot. And that's not really true. I think sexiness comes in all different shapes and sizes and it's just how you feel about yourself and it's a vibe and it's energy and it's so much more. And I think it's so great that now you know that because I think that that was true before you got in the lifestyle. You just didn't know because you're thinking, oh, my husband thinks I'm hot, but he's supposed to. But now no, like a lot of guys think you're hot. You are hot. And I think that that's great. And I think I wish more women knew that because I think women do get so crazy about their bodies and stuff because of like society and everything thing. But so I think that that's great.

Yeah, we've had a lot of single play. So I've played, we've played with single men. And at first for me it was like, well, you're not gonna want to be with me. Look at him, look at me kind of thing. And next thing I knew they were like, can we meet today? Can we meet tomorrow? Wait, he is interested. Okay. And that. It's not like I conceited, it's just, it's just. It makes you feel good. Like crap. Yeah. You know what? I thought that guy wouldn't be interested. He is. And I think a lot of it though is you have to be confident in yourself.

Totally.

And it takes a little bit to understand that. And that confidence. I think for guys it doesn't really matter what you look like. They like that confidence 100%.

I used to have a girlfriend who was like a slightly overweight. She wasn't even obese or anything. And she just was so like always covering up her body. She never felt hot. And I used to try to show her pics of musicians and celebrities that had her same body but showed it off. I'm like, listen, look at that girl. Has your same body but she doesn't look like you because she feels hot and she's presenting herself as hot. It's all, that's what it's about. It's not about how you look, it's how you feel about yourself. I always say, what is sexy? Sexy is like people who love sex and who love themselves. It's like a vibe, it's an energy and that of thing you can't change, it doesn't matter. Like a girl that has like the perfect body if she feels like terrible about herself is not going to present that way because it is how you feel. The guys could smell that. And also guys are horny and they like to a lot of different things and it's just the way that they roll.

That's another thing I've learned. Yeah, they don't care. They really don't care what you look like. No, all these little things. Yeah, A good connection and you.

And you're opening down. And you're opening down like you're here. Here you are. Sorry to cut you off, but like here you are, this chick who's so open and willing to try everything and really effing into it. That's like every guy's fantasy. He's not gonna give a if you don't have the perfect body. You know what I mean? I used to always be paranoid like, oh, and ask like my booty call guys. Do you think guys would see this like little roll when I bend over here and Kathy, guys don't look at that. We just. Women don't understand that guys are not what we think they are. They're not looking at our bodies like we are. That's just like a society thing. But I love you guys and I would love for you to send me some pics for my Patreon. Now are. And I will give you guys free access to my discord. There's a guest channel in there. You could upload stuff yourself. You could also do X rated stuff. I don't do X rated stuff on my Patreon. But if you want to send me some hot pics of your guys self for my Patreon to go with that, the episode, I think it would be great. Especially because you had such a transformation. And I will also send you free access to my discord. Make sure you guys sign up to be Ariel and Eddie and let me know when you do it and I'll give you the guest role so that when your episode airs, you could post pics. Is that cool?

Yeah, that'd be cool.

Yeah. Anonymous pics for what you sent to me. Don't send me any X rate of things like no decks and pics, no faces, no anonymous pics. Your guy listens to my show. He knows what I look for. So send away. And thank you so much for calling in Ariel and your husband too. This is a great episode. It'll be up really soon, so send me those pictures sooner than later. Thanks, you guys. Bye.

[Eddie]

Yeah, bye.

[Kathy]

Bye. Okay, I just want to tell you before you go that my book, it's called Strictly Anonymous Confession, Secret Sex Lives of Total Strangers, is now available not only in paperback and ebook, but you can pre order the audiobook. It's still not going to be out till August 25, but. But you can pre order it. The book is basically 17 different stories taken from my show. I kind of picked one story from each category that I talk about on my show. Like there's a hot wife story, There's a cuck Queen story, there's a cuck story, there's a gang bang girl story. Like I said, 17 stories. And they're all told in the third person and they're all true. I took the interview and rewrote it in the third person. And I wouldn't really call it like a total erotica book. Think like Penthouse letters. It's more direct. It's not so over the top. Like erotica. I don't really like that kind of vibe. Right. But these are true stories. 17 of them. They're really short chapters, easy read. You could read, you know, one or two and then skip around. You could read the whole book. It's available in eback format, paperback format, and finally, the audiobook book is available, coming out August 25th, but you could pre order it now. And if you buy my book in any format or pre order it, I will throw in a complimentary link to my Discord. My Discord does not disappoint. Okay? There's no way you get into my Discord any other way than getting the link from me. Okay? I give it to people who buy my book. There's tons of people in there. Everybody shares content with each other and that's what you get to do. You there. You could post your own pictures and videos. There's tons of channels. We have lots of contests where you could win a lot of money. It's a super fun place to be. It's a total, strictly anonymous community and you will love it. I will be giving anyone who buys my book access to my Discord. It's private. Like I said, all you gotta do is email me a screenshot of your purchase. Whether you did the audiobook, the ebook, or the paperback, send it to me at strictly anonymous podcast gmail.com. that's strictly anonymous podcast gmail.com and I will send you the link to Discord. So anyway, thanks so much for tuning in.

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