1521 - Ivan has a Pantyhose Fetish & He’s Always Been Very Open About It

Summary

Strictly Anonymous Confessions – Ep. 1521

Ivan has a Pantyhose Fetish & He’s Always Been Very Open About It
Date: July 17, 2026
Host: Kathy Kay
Guest: Ivan (anonymized)

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Overview

In this “Fetish Friday” episode, Kathy Kay welcomes Ivan, a self-described “hoser” (a man with a pantyhose fetish), who shares his lifelong journey with the fetish and how his openness and communication have shaped his private and romantic life. Ivan’s candid storytelling covers his earliest memories, his relationships, his experiences with wearing pantyhose, and thoughtful advice for others in the kink community.

Kathy and Ivan discuss not only the personal history and psychology of his fetish, but also practical tips, memorable anecdotes (including a Victoria’s Secret “hoser porn” scenario), and the importance of honest communication with partners.

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Key Discussion Points & Insights

Ivan’s Origin Story with Pantyhose

• Earliest Memory ([08:00])

  • Ivan recalls having his first strong feelings about pantyhose in kindergarten, fixating on a teacher in a plaid skirt, patent leather boots, and black nylons:

    “I can remember just wanting to climb under her skirt… to put my hands on her legs... The sunlight shining through the windows, glistening off her legs—it’s imprinted in my brain.” ([08:00])

  • He notes that, at that age, the attraction wasn’t sexual but intensely tactile and visual.

• Early Experiences and Feelings

  • His sister’s friends would wear nylons around him, fuelling his fascination. He didn’t want to wear them (yet), but was obsessed with the look and feel—he wanted proximity and touch, not cross-dressing.

• Feeling Alone

  • Ivan describes often fixating on women’s legs throughout childhood and adolescence, wondering if something was “wrong” with him, especially before he understood the prevalence of his fetish.

Exploring & Disclosing the Fetish

• Teenage Years & Coming Out to Partners ([12:18])

  • Ivan bravely began to confess his fetish to girlfriends, usually framing it as a "texture fetish" to ease into the topic:

    “I would always use the excuse that I have a texture fetish and start with that...” ([12:18])

• Reactions from Partners

  • He experienced embarrassment once his secret was leaked by a girl, but found that most partners responded positively, especially when they saw how excited he got.

• First Sexual Encounters

  • Lost his virginity at 14 to his sister’s 22-year-old friend, describing it as “a fantasy novel scenario.” ([14:00])
  • From then on, he continued to connect with partners over his nylon attraction, often letting his obsession surface naturally.

The Fetish in Relationships and Marriage

• First Marriage ([22:03])

  • Ivan’s first wife (a hairdresser) was supportive:

    “Anytime I had asked her to do it, she would do it.” ([23:09])

• Preferences Explored ([24:07])

  • Ivan likes tan, black, and gray pantyhose, noting that nude/tan is particularly popular because it’s closest to the “perfect leg.”

• Second (Current) Marriage ([27:54])

  • Ivan became even more open after his divorce, telling his now-wife about his fetish early on:

    “I told her... most girls, when you say you’ll never be number one, it would make them leave. That’s what made her stay. The fact that my child was the number one priority in my life was a turn on to her.” ([28:48])

  • His wife embraced it, wearing hosiery for him—and encouraging his journey into wearing pantyhose himself.

• Parenting & Blended Families

  • Ivan and his current wife have children together, and she treats all kids equally, including his son from the first marriage, reinforcing family harmony.

Beginning to Wear Pantyhose Himself

• First Time Wearing ([27:45]–[35:10])

  • Initially not interested in wearing, Ivan tried on leggings during laundry on a cold day, which led to unexpected arousal and spurred further experimentation.
  • Inspired by stories about swimmers shaving their legs for performance, Ivan shaved his own legs and tried on seamless tights—experiencing a “life-changing” sensation.

    “Once I shaved my legs and put on a pair of tights that fit me perfect... it’s like little electricity pulsations going off in every part of my whole entire body.” ([27:45])

• “Cricketing” ([27:45])

  • Ivan and his wife both wear pantyhose and rub their legs together—coining the term "cricketing."

    “It has become my most favorite thing in the world.” ([27:45])

• Seamless & Glossy Tights

  • Prefers seamless, glossy brands—favorites include Noosh, Lebel, and Pink Grapes.

Memorable Sexual Encounters

• Sex with Pantyhose On ([37:07])

  • Ivan and his wife (and a previous club hookup) have enjoyed intercourse “through” seamless tights, describing the unique sensations:

    “The combination together is something so exotic that it puts me right over the edge... she requests it from time to time because it’s different.” ([37:07])

• Victoria’s Secret “Hoser Porn” Anecdote ([48:10]–[51:44])

  • Ivan recounts a “porn-worthy” scenario with a lingerie store clerk, who initiated a sexual encounter in the store’s back room, capitalizing on their mutual attraction and his known fetish:

    “We’re in the back, and she’s like, ‘Well, what do you think of these? Do these feel good to you?’ And I reach down and put my hands on her legs...” ([49:01])

Fetish Evolution, Public vs. Private

• Wearing in Public

  • Now comfortable wearing pantyhose under clothes when out with his wife, using it as foreplay ([41:14]), but doesn’t “present” in public:

    “If somebody catches a glimpse of my ankles while I’m wearing it... before, I would have been mortified. Now, it doesn’t really bother me that much.” ([41:14])

• Experimenting with Sensations

  • Credits a masseuse and advice from others for introducing him to wrapping his penis in hosiery for masturbation—a now-regular practice ([42:19]).

• Preference Terminology

  • Ivan uses “tights,” “pantyhose,” “nylons,” and “stockings” interchangeably, acknowledging some in the community differentiate (45:30). He enjoys all varieties, as long as they evoke the right visual and tactile response.

Advice for Listeners

• Shaving Heads Up ([54:35])

  • Recommends anyone who enjoys wearing pantyhose but hasn’t yet tried shaving their legs to try it once:

    “Just give it a try... it felt like a second skin, and it was as comfortable... as I’ve ever been in my whole entire life.” ([55:10])

• On Telling Your Partner About a Fetish ([57:41])

  • The key is communication, starting honestly, or by discussing “texture” preferences for a gentler introduction.
  • If a partner won’t ever wear hosiery, he suggests reconsidering compatibility—pretending or suppressing it will only cause problems.

    “Most of the guys I hear will end up cheating if they can’t get what they’re looking for at home... I can’t imagine living my life with someone who wasn’t willing to do something so simple to make me happy.” ([58:30])

• Communication in Sex

  • Communication is critical—even outside the fetish—using verbal requests, letters, or “sideways” means (like quizzes or discussions in the car) to express intimate needs ([66:00]).

• On Being True to Yourself

  • Ivan stresses that life is short, and urges listeners to live authentically. Don’t settle, and don’t mask what matters to you ([58:30]).

Nature vs. Nurture

• Potentially Hereditary? ([52:22])
  • Ivan speculates his fetish might be hereditary, noting similar behaviors in his father and oldest son.

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Notable Quotes & Moments

• On Childhood Realization:

  “Standing in line... just wanting to climb under her skirt... I wanted to put my hands on her legs and I wanted to stick my head under her skirt.” – Ivan, ([08:00])

• On Openness:

  “I think that I was someone who was determined to see this through... I wasn’t going to be looked down upon, I just wanted the girl to feel comfort about it.” – Ivan ([12:34])

• On Relationship Harmony and Sex:

  “For us, it was like foreplay throughout the whole entire day... the whole day ended up being like foreplay for us from the time she put them on till the time that I either ripped a hole in them or took them off.” – Ivan ([17:27])

• On Wearing Pantyhose Himself:

  “I did it and instantly fell in love with it... I like the way it feels, I like the way it looks, I like every single aspect of it.” – Ivan ([27:45])

• On Kink Communication:

  “If you are with somebody who cares about you and cares about making you happy, they’ll pretty much do anything to do that.” – Ivan ([21:39])

• On Acceptance and Confidence:

  “She has been amazing to let me know that you’re everything that you’re supposed to be and more because you’re allowing yourself to be your true self...” – Ivan ([30:23])

• On the Limits of Compatibility:

  “No matter how beautiful she is, no matter how much we may click, I’m going to be excited about her in nylons. And if you don’t ever want to put one on, it’s just not going to work between us.” – Ivan ([59:37])

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Timestamps for Key Segments

• Earliest Fetish Memory – [08:00]
• First Confessions & Partners’ Reactions – [12:18]
• First Marriage and Preference for Pantyhose – [22:03]
• Second Marriage & Coming Out as a “Hoser” – [27:54]
• First Experience Wearing & “Cricketing” – [27:45], [35:10]
• Technical Details: Denier, Colors, Brands – [24:07], [24:46], [25:13], [36:23]
• Sex Through Pantyhose & Seamless Obsession – [37:07]
• Victoria’s Secret Fantasy Story – [48:10]–[51:44]
• Advice: Shaving, Talking to Partners, Communication – [54:35], [57:41], [66:00]

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Tone & Style

• Conversational, deeply confessional, friendly, and practical.
• Ivan is candid, self-reflective, and proud, not ashamed of his kink.
• Kathy is empathetic, inquisitive, and supportive, often highlighting the “normalcy” of Ivan’s desires and predicting that listeners will find his openness inspiring.

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Final Takeaways

Ivan’s story is a testament to the power of honest self-expression and communication in relationships—especially around sexual desire. He encourages others to normalize their kinks (especially those as common and harmless as pantyhose fetishes), to seek partners who respect and participate in their interests, and to never settle for hiding such an important part of one’s identity.

For others in the fetish community or those with secret desires, Ivan’s journey serves as both a guide and a beacon that acceptance, satisfaction, and true intimacy are possible—when you let your “freak flag fly.”

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Transcript

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Probably the only good advice I' ever give you is to rehide your whips and shame. Here is your host, Kathy. Hey, welcome to the Strictly Anonymous Podcast with Kathy. If you haven't followed the Strictly Anonymous podcast on Instagram or Twitter, follow me at Strict Anonymous if you want to be on the show. It's called Strictly Anonymous because I keep everyone anonymous. I change people's voices. You could email me from an phony email, call me from a phony number. I just want to hear your true story. And since this is a Fetish Friday episode, I love to hear your story about your unique fetish. Whatever you're into. If you got a fetish you could be on the show. And if you have a pantyhose fetish or a cross dressing fetish and you call in, I will give you free access to my patreon. Now on my patreon I have two tiers. One for cross dressers and one for hosers. Those are guys who like pantyhose. On those tiers you get every single episode early ad free plus intro free. Also you get all the picks Anonymous picks of all My guests. Plus you get exclusive content over there. And since I've been doing this for many, many years, over on Patreon, there's so much exclusive pantyhose, fetish episodes and cross dressing episodes that are only available on Patreon. The hoser tier is $8 a month. The cross dressing tier is $10 a month because cross dresses also get the hoser episodes as well. But if you call into my show, you're going to get a who. So if you want to call into the show because you have a fetish that you want to talk about, send me an email strictly anonymous podcast gmail.com or go to my website, strictly anonymous podcast.com and click on be on the show. I do have a book out. It's called Strictly Anonymous Confession Secret Sex Lives of Total Strangers. It's available on Amazon and ebook and audiobook and and paperback, but it is now available for audiobook to pre order. Okay. It's coming out August 25th, so it's coming out very soon. You could purchase that my book any by going into the description and clicking on the link. Now, anyone who calls into my show as well as anyone who buys my book, if you send me a screenshot of your purchase, I will give you free access to my discord. My Discord is a super fun place and in there there are so many different channels. You get to post whatever you want there and everyone posts and talks to each other and there's a whole community over there. It's private, it's free, but you could only get the link through me. I throw it in complimentary to anyone calls into my show, joins my patreon or buys my book. So send me a screenshot of your picture to strictly anonymous podcast gmail.com. there is a lot of fetish and kink channels over on my Discord. Okay, today I have on Ivan. Ivan's such a great hoser. I love what he's here to say. He's all about communication. He's very directed guy. He's a guy who's always been super honest about his pantyhose fetish. When is it's his story though is super interesting because, you know, he talks about like his first moment in life realizing he was into pantyhose. He's got the vision in his head. He explains it and then he talks about, you know, what he was really into when it came to pantyhose and it was really like the tactile sensation and seeing it on women and was never really wearing himself and he talks about how, like, all the girls that he dated, he would bring it up. And that's what I mean about being a good communicator. He was always, like, super honest. He wasn't wearing. Like I said, he didn't have to bring up that he was wearing himself, but he would bring up that he liked hoes. And he talks about how he would bring it up and how it works. Worked and how the women reacted. He talks about the naughty things he did with girls wearing hoes. And then he talks about his two wives, his second wife he's with now. I mean, he started wearing hoes with her, and he talks about how that came to be like many, many, many, many years after he realized he had a pantyhose fetish and was a hoser who didn't wear a hose. He wound up putting them on. And he talks about why he put them on the first time. It's not going to be what you think. And then how and why he got really into it. He's got a tip for you guys out there that wear pantyhose. Something that he heard of that he did. And then he put on pantyhose, and he was like, oh, my God, it changed his life. And now he wears pantyhose. He gets. He gets it on with his girl and pantyhose. He. Through pantyhose, he talks about his favorite kinds. He likes the den. He likes the type. He likes the brands. He likes to buy his girl as well as the brands, like I said, he likes for himself. He talks about how he. A girl that was selling him hoes once. Wait till you hear that story. It's like a porn. It's like a hoser porn scenario. You're going to be very jealous of him, but. And then he, you know, he ends with some advice on guys on how to get your girl to wear hose. Because this girl, you know, wears for him and he wears underneath his pants, and he couldn't be happier. And he's here to say, you know, you only live once. You might as well communicate what you're looking for and, you know, to communicate who you are, and that's what it's all about. So anyway, it's a super fun episode. You're gonna love him. He's super cool. I'm gonna get. So I'm gonna be right back on with Ivan.

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This is the strictly anonymous podcast.

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Strictly anonymous podcast. Oh, hey, Ivan. I was going to call you Evan, but you're Ivan. I don't know if I've ever had an Ivan on. But I like the. The choice of names. How you doing today, Ivan?

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I am doing great. How are you?

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I'm doing good. So listen, I don't know if you're a professor or a pantyhose professor, but I know that you are obsessed with pantyhose. You're what I call a hoser. I forget who came up with that name, but it's so right. Hoser is what I call a guy with a pantyhose fetish. I'd say if you're obsessed, you definitely have a pantyhose fetish. Do you consider yourself a professor of the pantyhose fetish or are you a professor in real life?

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No, just pantyhose fetish.

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I love it. I love it. Good, because that's what we're going to discuss. That's more interesting to me than if you were just a professor in a school. Do you know what I'm saying? You're going to tell us all. Yeah. All right, so let's get your whole story. You know, let's. Because you want to talk about, like, where it comes from and how you feel about it and all that kind of good stuff. I want. I like to get personal. Of course, you know, we could talk bigger picture, too, and you could talk about where you think it comes from and stuff. But let's talk about, like, when you, like, sort of realize you had this fetish and when it, you know, came up for you.

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Okay. I would say that I have the ability to remember my very first sexual thought ever. So I remember in kindergarten.

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Kindergarten.

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Standing in. Yeah. Standing in line for the bus. And you would wait by the door if you were the first couple kids and everybody else would wait in line. And I remember standing there and seeing one of the teachers from the other rooms sitting out front. And she had this plaid, gray and maroon wool skirt. These, like, patent leather boots and a pair of black nylons on. And I can remember just wanting to climb under her skirt. I didn't know what I wanted to do when I got there, but I knew I wanted to put my hands on her legs and I wanted to stick my head under her skirt. And I remember thinking about that and, like, fighting to get to the front of the line every day to see that if I could see her.

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Yeah, I got so I would say

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that's when I think I first noticed.

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Yeah, I hear those stories all the time. It is always like a vision. I don't think it's a sexual thought at that Age, because you're not even a sexual being yet. You know what I mean? But it definitely is something that. Listen to how you even describe that memory. Like it's in detailed, imprinted in your brain. Right. When so many other moments of our lives when we're little, we don't remember at all. Right. But that. That exact time that you laid your eyes the first time, like you have all the details of that one vision.

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Which means.

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Yeah. Which means it was so powerful for you, you know?

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Yeah. I. I can remember the sunlight shining through the windows, listening off her legs

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sound like a romance novel writer. But it's true again. Yeah.

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I didn't know what I wanted to do. I just knew that I wanted to be under there and I wanted to be touching her legs. And as far as I can remember, that is my first real memory. Notice it. Yeah, memory. Memory of, you know, being fascinated with her legs.

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Right. But isn't it interesting that you said that you wanted to touch it? Because typically I feel like before it becomes like a sexual thing. When kids get a little bit older, it's typically a tactile thing. Like they do want to touch it. It is about how it feels as well as how it.

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Absolutely. I mean, visually it's stimulating. But I would say my whole entire life, the mission was to put my hands on them, I want to touch them, I want to see what they feel like. And I was obsessed with it. I can remember being at the town football game. Everybody's watching the game. And I'm looking at the cheerleada's legs and I'm wondering this whole time, my whole life, like, what is wrong with me? Like, why can't I just watch the football game like everybody else?

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Yeah.

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And what you don't realize back then is that I wasn't the only one. But you felt alone and you felt like there was something wrong with you because I was so obsessed with this. Now I had a sister who had dressed me up plenty of times. She was a lot older than me. And I had no obsession with wearing nylons. I just love the way they look and I wanted to touch them. And like I said, I had an older sister and her friends would come over. She's seven years older than me. When I was 10, they were seniors in high school. They ran around in just their nylons and little things like that. And I remember being fascinated with her friends and they were just, you know, I was just this cute little kid.

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Yeah.

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There was no real sexual anything to it. I just wanted to be around Them. And when they were wearing them, I was fascinated with them. And it wasn't until I got a little bit older and started masturbating that I started remembering thinking about these incidents that had happened where I accidentally maybe had touched a girl's legs in school. School or a teacher or anything like that. And that's when I realized this is what I like more than anything in the world.

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Yeah.

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Crazy is wanting to be with a girl who's wearing nylons and you see it on tv. It's glorified everywhere. Back then, there were legs commercials everywhere. And thigh highs were a big thing for me. Like, you know, you saw pantyhose a lot. What you didn't see were girls and thigh highs a lot. So when I started dating girls and they were like, what are you into? It took a little while for me to get to it. But I would always use the excuse that, like, I have a texture fetish and start with that, because I felt like I could ease my way into it that way.

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Listen, I'm surprised that you got balls that you even ever got to the point where you let them know and use the word fetish. So many guys don't ever even reveal any of that, let alone, like, what you're saying. You eased into it and stuff. The fact that you did that then is pretty ballsy.

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Yeah. I think that I was someone who was determined to see this through. Like, I wanted to see that it may be if this happened once, that I wouldn't be so obsessed with it for the rest of my life.

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Right.

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But I didn't know. But I knew that, like, when I was, you know, a teenager, I had mentioned it to one girl and, like, she said something to another girl, and I was like, oh, God, I'll never do that again. Like, I'll never say that again. Because again, I thought I was the only person in the world like that. And I didn't want to be looked down upon. I didn't want to be made fun of. And what I didn't realize then is none of that really mattered, you know, I was scared what other people thought. And the truth was, I wasn't even sure how to deal with it myself. I wasn't someone who was just going to go up and touch somebody because they were wearing a pair of tights and I wanted to touch them. You know, I never wanted to be forcible about it, and I wanted the girl to feel comfort about it. So when I did bring it up to them, most of the time I would say, 99 of the time, they were happy to. To do it and. And then seeing the excitement that was happening with me made them want to do it even more.

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Yeah. Let me go back though, a little bit. Before you start hooking up with girls, we'll get right back to this part. When you were younger and you just, you know, felt like you just wanted to touch them and all that kind of stuff, did you ever, like, steal a pair of your sisters and feel them? I know that you weren't someone who ever put them on, but did you ever get your feel anyway? I know that maybe you accidentally brushed into somebody, but was there ever a time where you, like, got a. A pair in your hands? Would you do anything like that secretly? Or you just always had the feeling of wanting to touch it and never really got to until you start dating checks?

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I think that the only time I would ever get a chance to touch them or one of my sister's friends.

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Okay.

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And I never stole any pair. I was interested in that.

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That's what I did.

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Touch them from time to time. Because you'd go into somebody's house, it was really common for them to have them hanging in the bathroom.

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Totally.

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So I might reach over and touch them with my fingers. But that was probably the extent of it at that point.

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Yeah. That's interesting that you had such a poll, but you weren't getting your fixed until effects until you were like, older and started dating chicks, right?

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Yeah, I mean, I. I was. I lost my virginity when I was 14 years old and I lost it to my. One of my sister's very best friends, who was about. She was 22 at the time. Talk about a. A fantasy novel scenario. I mean, that was just absolutely crazy. But I experienced it at a young age having sex. Then I went maybe a year and a half before he had it again. But I remember sitting in class and like, being obsessed with the girl next to me because she was constantly wearing skirts and nylons. And I was just like. I couldn't even, like, focus on what was going on in school because I was so obsessed with like, staring at her legs the whole entire time. And then I slowly started dating some of these girls and started having my own experiences with being able to put my hands on them. And it was as arousing as I had hoped it was going to be.

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Yeah. No disappointment there, right?

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No, absolutely no disappointment.

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And a little later on, when I got into a relationship that was, you know, more than a couple of years, I remember, you know, talking to her about it and telling her, you know, how it's always been there and this, that and the other, and she went out of her way to wear them at all costs. And I remember her saying to me, because she was the type of girl who was happy making me happy, and I remember her telling me that she couldn't even put them on anymore without masturbating because it was turning her on so much, knowing how she was going to turn me on later in the day. So for us, it was like foreplay throughout the whole entire day. Every once in a while, she'd send me a picture of what she was wearing. And so the whole entire day ended up being like foreplay for us from the time she put them on till the time that I either ripped a hole in them or took them off or, you know, when we got to embrace with one another at the end of the day.

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Yeah, that's amazing for a Long time.

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Yeah, it was really fun.

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What about, though, that girl, like, when you said, I told one girl and she told another girl, were they, like, did they mock you about it, or do you just find out that. That the other girl knew? Did they have questions for you? Like, did you ever.

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There was no, not a lot of questions. And I kind of blew it off because I was so embarrassed about it.

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Right.

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But I remember us sitting around and watching, like, the Breakfast Club.

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Yeah.

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And her saying something and her friend saying something like, oh, I think Ivan wants to touch my legs. And I remember looking at her being like, you know, why shut the up, right? And I was so mortified by it that I just never brought it up again. And it wasn't until, like, I graduated high school and moved out of town and was, you know, multiple states away that I wasn't really afraid to say it anymore. Like, this is kind of what I dig, and either you dig it or you don't. And I went with that.

[B]

Yeah. Well, listen, when you're younger, like the younger years of all of our lives, it's like the upside down world. Like, all you want to do is be like, everybody, everybody else. That's what's, like, popular. You know what I mean? All you. You care about what people think. You just want to, you know, being like everybody else is like, what's cool when in reality, that's, like, the antithesis of a cool. Right. Like, everyone. We all become unique individuals at some point, but when you're super young, everyone just wants to be like everybody else. You know what I mean? It's, like, ridiculous to me. It's like the upside down world. But it is a. A fact. And it sounds like you grew up in a time where there was no Internet or anything that you could. Could go and find, like, the. Like, find out that you weren't alone with this. These feelings and this desire. Right.

[A]

No, I. I mean, I grew up in a time where if one person had a magazine in the neighborhood, it's because they stole it from their father. And we all looked at it, and then it made its way back. I mean, I had no clue, right, that, you know, I had a fetish. That I had a very common fetish.

[B]

Exactly.

[A]

That a lot of people have.

[B]

Yeah.

[A]

And. And then I found out that I wasn't so odd after all and that there were a lot odder things that I could be attracted to. And in. It's usually. It was usually the girls that I was dating who was making me feel comfortable about what I was Attracted to. Because I kept asking for reassurance constantly. Like, you think it's weird that like, you know, I'm obsessed with this and the feeling and the texture and the look and, and they were all like, no, no, I think it's, it's pretty normal and it's pretty easy to take care of. And I've heard a lot of people on your show constantly, you know, the big question I hear all the time is, how do I get my girl to start wearing nylons? How do I get my girl to start wearing nylons? And this is it. If you are with somebody who cares about you and cares about making you happy, they'll pretty much do anything to do that. And I couldn't imagine living my life with someone who wasn't willing to do something so simple to make me happy. Because I would go to the ends of the earth to make my wife happy. Anything she ever asked for, I would basic, within reason, I would do because I just want to make her happy. And by making her happy, it makes me happy. And that's, that's a turn on in itself.

[B]

Yeah, you had that one girl that was questions about. No, but you had that one girl that was so it. We'll get back to what you're saying. Bigger picture. But that you had that one girl that was so horny because she was very into conversion. Right? Like your pleasure was her pleasure. So much so that she actually got into painting hose. Now, is she the person that you married? You just said your wife. Are you married now?

[A]

I am married now. I've been married twice.

[B]

Okay, and, and, but what's the experience with hoes and each wife? Let's start with the first one and then we'll talk bigger picture where you're going to give all guys the advice on, you know, all the stuff.

[A]

Okay. I would say everybody, I believe, has three marriages in them. The first one is a pregnancy, the second one's for love, and the third one's for money.

[B]

I thought we're gonna say the last one's for sex. What do you mean money?

[A]

Because I always tell my wife, now if I die now, you just marry somebody for money, that's fine, blah, blah, blah, I'm okay with it. But you know, she got pregnant. I was, I wasn't a teenager. I was, you know, already a man. I just felt like, like this is what you're supposed to do. You're supposed to marry this girl. And what you realize is once you get married and have a baby that the, the baby coming isn't going to strengthen the marriage, it's going to make it even harder because you're relying on money, one another constantly for support and help. And when that didn't work and we realized we just were not meant for one another, it was a pretty amicable.

[B]

Did she wear hose for you?

[A]

She did. Okay, did. And it was no problem with it. Anytime I had asked her to do it, she would do it. It's funny that both my wives are hairdressers.

[B]

Okay.

[A]

And I am attracted to feminine looking women. I am not attracted to high maintenance women.

[B]

Okay.

[A]

I am attracted to feminine women. I'm attracted to girls who, you know, wear high heels. I'm attracted to girls who wear nylons. I'm attracted to girls who get dressed up because I feel like looking good is feeling good. And the sexiest thing on a woman beside of parasites is, is confidence and the way they present themselves. So she dressed up daily to go to work and quite often, because I live in New England, you know, they wear tights in the fall and in the winter and in the springtime. So she was, she was definitely wearing them knowing that it was turning me on. And I was very open about it and asking for it from time to time. But most of the time I didn't even have to ask. Ask for it.

[B]

Yeah. That's amazing. Do you prefer black? Because, you know, it sounds like your first vision was that woman with black hoe. So did that become like your favorite type or do you like nude as well? I mean, do you or do you have a favorite color?

[A]

You know, I hear you ask all the hoses this all the time. And the reason why I believe most people love nude the most.

[B]

Yeah, tell me.

[A]

Is. Or suntan. Is because it's closest to the natural looking leg.

[B]

Exactly. Yeah.

[A]

I believe that, like, that that's the reason why most men are attracted to the nude color. Because it's like looking at a perfect pair of legs.

[B]

And that's what it's about.

[A]

Blemishes or anything we've talked about, you know, the makeup for the legs thing. And that's exactly what it is. And I feel like that's why most men wear. I mean, most men love tan. I personally love tan and I love black. I also love gray. And to be honest with you, now that I keep seeing all these colored hosiery everywhere, I'm realizing I. I pretty much dig all of it.

[B]

Yeah.

[A]

If I had to pick three favorites, it would be black, tan and gray.

[B]

Right. Before we get to your. This wife now Quick question. Do you have a specific den that you like, a brand or. And also like control top, seamless reinforced toe. Like, get specific. What are you into?

[A]

Okay, so prior to me wearing a pair of tights.

[B]

Oh, you eventually start wearing.

[A]

Yes.

[B]

So that's why we haven't got to that point.

[A]

I would tell you. I'll tell you how that progresses. Yeah, it comes to the type of brand.

[B]

Okay, perfect.

[A]

What it is, is I was cold one day and I went home and put on my wife's leggings and then went back and because it was still so cold, that I put on a pair of a really thick tights. And we talked about it a little bit, and it kind of turned her on a little bit. Like, seeing the definition of my coc in the tights turned her on a little bit. So I had heard something about these guys swimming and how they used to make them wear pantyhose when they swim and what a different feeling it was putting the pantyhose on when they. After they had shaved their legs. So I said, you know what? I'm going to shave my legs and I'm going to try it and see what it feels like. I did it and instantly fell in love with it. I would have to say seamless tights are by far the thing that I enjoy the most. I like the way it feels, I like the way it looks. I like every single aspect of it. And what I call cricketing, which is when my wife is wearing a pair of tights and I'm wearing a pair of tights and we're rubbing our legs together, you know, kind of like crickets would do to make noise. I call that cricketing. And that has become my most favorite thing in the world. And what's weird about it is for someone who never wanted to wear tights his whole entire life, I've never felt anything better than when I'm in a pair of tights and she's in a pair of tights and she's like rubbing her hands along my legs and she's snapping the tights against my. And, you know, the head of it and just completely edging me. And just, you know, the two of us touching each other is a sensation that is very difficult to describe. It's like little electricity pulsations going off in every single part of my whole entire body. Not just the legs where she's touching it, not where she's snapping. It's everywhere. But the second her hands touch my legs when I'm wearing the tights, it's a totally different feeling. And it is so exhilarating that it's making me wish I had started doing it when I was younger.

[B]

Crazy. And how long ago did that start?

[A]

Probably five years ago.

[B]

Okay, so with the second wife?

[A]

Yeah. This is with the second wife? Yeah.

[B]

Okay, so you get into the second wife. Right. And she knows about your pantyhose fetish, too. And she. Because she's a hairdresser, she's wearing all the time anyway, as well as for you.

[A]

Yeah. She. When we first met, I had already been through a divorce. I already had one child, and I was in the position where I wasn't gonna settle for anything anymore. I was not gonna pretend I was something that I wasn't. I wasn't gonna put up with. Certainly wasn't going to pretend I didn't like a girl that I really liked just to get her to like me.

[B]

Okay?

[A]

So I told her that. I said, listen, I really dig you, but I'm not. I don't have time for these games, and I'm probably never, ever gonna get married again. And if you can handle being number two in my life because my kid's always going to be number one, then let's try and make this happen.

[B]

Did she have kids, by the way? At that point?

[A]

She had no kids.

[B]

Okay.

[A]

In the. The. The fact that she had told me later on was that I had told her, most girls, when you say you'll never be number one, it would make them leave. That's what made her stay. The fact that my child was the number one priority in my life was a turn on to her.

[B]

As it should be. You think about it exactly as it should be. That means you're a good person. You know what I mean? If you really think about what. That. What you're saying to that person. She heard the right thing in that phrase. She didn't hear, I'm not number two. She heard, I'm a good guy. You know what I mean? Because I know the correct priorities in life. You know what I'm saying?

[A]

Yeah.

[B]

Yeah.

[A]

So right away, because I was telling her those things, I told her about my fetish right away, like, you know, what's your favorite movie? What's your favorite song? You know, what turns you on, what turns you off?

[B]

Yeah.

[A]

And we went through that. And when it came to me, her asking me those questions, I told her, I said, you know, I. I really love a girl and a pair of nylons, like, that's what turns me on more than anything. And then the next time she came over, she had a pair of black thigh highs on and it had been going strong ever since. And she has been so amazing with making me feel comfortable about who I really am and making me feel like there's nothing shameful about the fact that I like to put on a pair of tights. It doesn't make me gay. Not that there's anything wrong with that. It doesn't make me feminine. It doesn't make me a. It doesn't make me any of these words that I heard as a kid to make me feel less than right.

[B]

Exactly.

[A]

She has been amazing to let me know that you're everything that you're supposed to be and more because you're allowing yourself to be your true self and feel something that feels so amazing to you and there's nothing shameful in it.

[B]

How long you been married to her for? And did you ever have kids with her?

[A]

Yes, we have two kids together. And one of the great things about her is that when the kids were young, she would be at the grocery store somewhere with all three kids and someone would say, oh, I love your three kids. You'd never be able to tell which one of her she didn't give birth to because she treats them all the same.

[B]

Yeah, amazing.

[A]

And she was actually the go to with my ex wife because my ex wife and I couldn't stand each other. But she dealt with the whole, you know, she's the one who talked to her. And what's funny is I said, the day my son graduates high school, I'm gonna speak to that again. And. And I never have, but. But you know, I brought my son up in a way that even though my ex wife and I didn't like each other, he never heard me call her a. He never heard me, you know, degrade her in any way, shape or form because I wanted him to hold women up on a pedestal the way that I do, that they're supposed to be treated a specific way. And I'm glad that I was able to pass that on through him, even though his mother and I didn't really like each other.

[B]

Right, and you did break your rule. I mean, you did tell the this girl you're never gonna get married again. But you did marry her.

[A]

I did. You know what's funny is we actually broke up for one day over it. It was like, she's like, I'm never gonna be, you know, someone's baby daddy. And I'm like, well, I'm never getting married again. And we broke up for one day and then she came right back and we've been together ever since. We own a business together. I am madly in love with this girl. It doesn't mean I don't look at other girls. It doesn't mean that I'm not attracted to other women. I didn't stop becoming a man because we got married. And she's really good about that. You know, she understands that. She would never get jealous. I've never even picked up her phone one time to look at it to see if there's anything in there that it shouldn't be. She's never looked at my phone. We have complete trust in one another. And to be honest with you, I wouldn't even care if she did anything on the side sexually as long as she kept coming home and doing what she's doing, like being a great mother and a great wife to us. What she did on her own time wouldn't really bother me that much. No, I could never imagine my younger self saying something like that.

[B]

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[A]

Yeah. So I remember a couple of times, like, like laundry day, there was nothing to wear and I was like doing the laundry and. And the kids were real young and I was the stay at home dad. I'd gotten hurt real bad and hurt my back. So she was working and I was doing the stay at home dad thing and I was doing the laundry and one day I just had a pair of leggings on her leggings because I was doing laundry and she came home

[B]

and like, she saw it.

[A]

Yeah. Started giving me head in the kitchen and I was like, what's up with that? She's like, I just like the definition of it.

[B]

Yeah.

[A]

So that day that I was working and I came home and put her leggings on and her tights. When I got home, I was exhausted and I just laid in bed and she reached over, she's like, oh, you wear my tights? And I said, yeah. And she's like, it's kind of hot. And like reached down and grabbed it and started playing with it. And I. They were really thick, Denier tight. So I was like, oh, this is kind of hot. Like this is turning me on. But I didn't get that sensation that I got when I actually shaved my legs and put on a pair of tights that like fit me perfect in the perfect area and just felt like it would never feel with the hair on it.

[B]

Oh, interesting. So that makes a very big difference. Is that true? Is that a real thing?

[A]

Yes. I mean I, I had worn pantyhose tights, nylons plenty of times because like I said, I had an old assistant who, you know, thought I was a personal doll as a child.

[B]

Oh, right. She put them on you. Right. But you never.

[A]

I didn't really. Yeah, I really was. Even though I knew I was into nylons, I wasn't into wearing. Yeah, I got it wasn't until I shaved my legs and put on A pair. And I like a very silky satin, like, glossy type paratites. And my favorite brand right now is a brand called News.

[B]

How do you spell it?

[A]

N O, O Sh.

[B]

Okay. New. Why? Why is it so great?

[A]

It's the texture. Okay. It's the fact that they were the first pair of tights that I bought that were. Were seamless. And I. One other time, I had been with a girl who was wearing seamless tights. I didn't know her. We met in a club one night and had sex. And she must have done this prior, but she asked me to stick it in her with the tights on. With the seamless tights. And I thought, oh, this is right up my alley.

[B]

Because she's wearing the tights.

[A]

Yes, the girl was wearing the tights.

[B]

Right.

[A]

And then I bought my wife a pair of new seamless tights. I was feeling her down there, fingering her. She loved the material. She's like, I need you to stick your inside me with the tights on.

[B]

With it on.

[A]

And while she's wearing the tights.

[B]

Yeah, I get it.

[A]

What it is is because they're seamless and she's extremely wet, that it goes in and out very easily. And you get the sensation of the tights along with the sensation of her pussy. And the combination together is something so exotic that it puts me right over the edge. But now it's something that puts her over the edge because it's a different type of feeling than regular sex. Does she like it better than regular sex? I don't think so, but I know she requests it from time to time because it's different than. So I think the type of friction that it gives her on the inside really turns her on and allows her to get there a little quicker sometimes.

[B]

Yeah. That's so interesting. Why do I not know that? This is how guys. Girls with pantyhose on. I'm always thinking that they use crotchless, and it's about the hose being on the legs. But I'm assuming a lot of hosers, like if they're girls wearing for them, they. Them through the hose.

[A]

Yes. Now, I would say if they're regular tights or regular pantyhose, you know, that, you know, have a crotch in them, then you're gonna have to rip that open to get through that.

[B]

Exactly.

[A]

And sometimes because they're reinforced up there, first of all, they're really hard to tear. Like, you could cut your finger open trying to tear them.

[B]

What, the niche brand, the new ones?

[A]

No, no, no. I'm saying regular tights, like, you know, regular brands of nylons, where they have the, you know, like the.

[B]

The panty part.

[A]

Compression tops.

[B]

Yeah.

[A]

So I would say those specifically that have the gusset there, you would have to cut that out to make it happen. And the material is not as soft and as delicate as it is in a pair of seamless tights. Now, since they've done that, I've seen a bunch of other brands that do that as well. I've seen Lebel does it.

[B]

The seamless, you mean, or what do

[A]

I. Yeah, they do the seamless Pink Grapes does it. You know, there's a bunch of it that I see now, but I didn't see it much then, and Noosh was the first one that I really saw that and experimented with that. She fell in love with the texture of it, and I fell in love with the texture as well.

[B]

And they look shiny. I mean, they have all different kinds. Right, but they have a high gloss.

[A]

Yes.

[B]

Which you like, correct?

[A]

Yes. I've come to find out that I am a huge fan of all kinds of tights, whether they're. I use big tights. I mean, that's just the way it goes. My wife buys me tights sometimes, but she. She'll buy me, like. Like, footless tights that have, like, a package spot for my. For my. For my.

[B]

Where do you get those? What brand are those for you?

[A]

I think they're called Sacker.

[B]

Okay.

[A]

And she'll buy them for me. But before I could really like, I. There was one time when I was younger, when I first was like, you know what? I'm gonna try this. And the thought of wearing tights would be so mortifying to me that if someone ever caught me, I would just die. I wouldn't know what to think. Right now I'm to the point, right, in my life that, like, there's times when my wife and I will go out and she'll request that I wear them under my clothes, because for her, it's foreplay as well. So we'll go out, we'll go to a show, we'll go to a play, whatever. She knows I'm wearing them underneath, just like she's wearing. Wearing them. And it turns us both on. If somebody catches a glimpse of my ankles while I'm wearing it, some girl. I've seen them. They'll stare. Nobody's made a comment yet, but before, I would have been mortified for that. Now it doesn't really bother me that much. In fact, I went to a masseuse a jerk off masseuse and wore the tights to see like what type of reaction was I going to get from her if I kept the tights on. And younger me could have never done something like that. I would have been mortified. Even though it was some woman that I'm probably never ever going to see again.

[B]

Right.

[A]

And it doesn't really matter what she thinks about me when I leave. But I needed to judge a reaction from my own personal to know that it didn't matter what she thought about it. Was she going to laugh me out of there? Was she going to be accept, accessible to it? You know, how was she gonna. How was she gonna deal with it? And I was completely and utterly surprised at how she dealt with it. And she was really into it. It.

[B]

Did your wife know you went to her or was this with your other wife? Was this when you were single?

[A]

This was with my first wife. This is prior to me shaving my legs. I had tried a couple of times. I had heard something, oh, I think if you wear them, you'll love it, blah, blah, blah. And I tried it, but I wanted to see what this girl's reaction was going to be. Could I, if I liked it, was this something that I could get away with and she really liked it. It. And you know what she taught me that day that I had never done, which is so weird for someone who's been in love with tights his whole entire life, is I had never taken a pair of tights and put it over my. And jerked off.

[B]

Yeah, that I've heard of. I'm sure you guys doing that, right?

[A]

Yeah. And that was the first time in my whole life that had happened to me. And I thought, you know what, that's a pretty good idea for an old fashioned.

[B]

Then you started doing that at home yourself.

[A]

Yes, and I've been doing it ever since. You know, there's only been a couple of times where I've, you know, been in a situation or away or on a trip of this, that and the other where I was doing it without it. But for the most part, that's how I do it for now on, thanks to that one person.

[B]

Right, right. And what you say, you keep using the word tights. Do you prefer tights over pantyhose? I prefer tights because I like the way they feel. I like the compression breast feeling of my legs, you know, being pulled in by the tights more so than the pantyhose is. Do you prefer that you. When you're saying tights you mean like thicker, denier?

[A]

No, when I say tight, what do

[B]

you mean by tights?

[A]

What I mean by tights is the same. I consider tights, pantyhose, nylons, all the same thing. Really.

[B]

That's what I was thinking. I think you're using it improperly because tights, to me, this is what I've learned from hosers. I think pan. Pantyhose are, you know, like the sheer ones we're talking about, you know, thinner, whatever. Then you got stockings, and those are thigh highs. What I would call thigh highs. But stockings. If someone says, I like stockings, they mean like thigh highs. And then what I think tights are, are very high denier, very thick. You can't see through them most of the time. Very compressed feeling, you know, tighter or something totally different than pantyhose. But you use them all. All the same. Like, doesn't matter. Just a different word.

[A]

Yeah. Because I think, like, if I say to my wife, can you wear a pair of tights tomorrow? She knows exactly what I'm talking about. I don't have to make a specific reference to can you wear like a really thin, thin pair of nylons? Like, I. I just use the word in general.

[B]

Right. So when I was younger, specific. Because you are saying you like tights, but I. And that's why I brought it up, because I don't think. I didn't think you liked t. Tights in the sense that some hosers would think you mean tights. You're just me. When you're saying tights, you just mean pantyhose. Like, you're just obsessed with panties.

[A]

Yes. In general.

[B]

Yeah.

[A]

And when I was younger and I would think of tights, I would think of, like, cotton almost.

[B]

Yeah.

[A]

Those thick woolly tights that the girls wore at the Catholic school down the street.

[B]

Yeah.

[A]

But nowadays I don't think of it that way. And the reason why I don't is because I've heard so. So many girls use that word.

[B]

Right.

[A]

Some use the word stockings, some use the word kite, Some use the word pantyhose. That's just a quick, easy word for me. So do I know the difference? Yeah, I get it. Some are thinner, some are thicker than you, you know, some of them you can't see through. Most people consider stockings only thigh highs.

[B]

Yeah.

[A]

Girls who wear nylons who call them stockings. No, I know.

[B]

I used to only call them thigh highs. I thought stockings were pantyhose. I get it. I'm just letting. Clearing it up. And I think it's cool for you to use it interchangeably, but I wanted people that are listening, hosers that are listening, who sometimes are very particular about those words because they do mean different things in the pant. Like, if Robert from Shapings, you know, dot com was on here, he would be correcting you. Do you know what I mean? It's not proper.

[A]

Oh, yeah.

[B]

I wanted people, because we're specifically talking about you. I wanted people to know that you're not someone who loves tights. You're someone who loves pantyhose. Right. And your equal opportunity into all of them and as well as colors. Denier, you like tights, you like pantyhose, you like nylons, you like stockings, you like them all.

[A]

I do, yeah.

[B]

Yeah, I love that.

[A]

Yeah. So I. I guess that was just the word that I use.

[B]

That's okay.

[A]

That's all.

[B]

Yeah. You just don't want people to think that you only like tight tights because that's very specific and different than who you are. You know, I mean, I have had. Guy. I have had hosers on who just like tights. Like me. I prefer tights over pantyhose, but, you know, most hosers like pantyhose or, you know, it's. It's a small minority that like, you know, tights. Do you have a specific denier that you like?

[A]

I would say if I am going to put them on, I would prefer. Prefer a thinner pair.

[B]

Okay.

[A]

If I'm going to see them on a girl, I like them. I think 20 is a great number. But again, I do like them all. You know, the only ones I don't. I don't really dig are like the ones that are so thick that you can't really see through them.

[B]

Exactly.

[A]

Like leggings.

[B]

Yeah, yeah. Like the real tights, the dark ones.

[A]

Yeah. But I. I think because of the error that I grew up in, I'm more attracted to a shinier tight or nylon or stocking, whatever you want to call it, something that's a little thinner and a little shinier. I mean, I grew up with very specific, iconic women. The Playboy thing was a huge thing. Every single one of those girls, the Playboy bunnies, I was attracted to that for years because my father got Playboy. You know, we see the girl down there with the Playboy bunny outfit, they always wore the black nylons, but I didn't know at the time that they were. That they had to wear two pairs of nylons.

[B]

Yeah.

[A]

And it wasn't until I got a little bit older and realized what was going on that, I could recognize in two seconds when a girl's layering her tights. Because it's a different look.

[B]

Yeah.

[A]

Than regular nylons. Daisy Duke was another one. The Cowboys cheerleaders. Like, there was so many iconic girls that I could think of from my generation, and they all wore nylons.

[B]

Yeah. Right. Back in the day.

[A]

Yeah. And then, you know, it got through that age and arrow where they just weren't as popular anymore. And the only time you really saw them were on TV or, you know, strippers or, you know, girls that I would dating that I would request. And at the time, you could go to Victoria's Secrets, and they had tons of nylons and thigh highs and all sorts of stuff. I don't even think they carry it anymore.

[B]

Right.

[A]

But at the time, I would go there, there, and I actually ended up. This is years ago, but I ended up hooking up with one of the Victoria's Secret girls who works there. They saw that what I was into. They saw what I was buying. And then I would come in, and one of the girls, her and I just had a great rapport with one another. And one day I came in and she's like, well, talk to me as I'm walking. And next thing you know, we're in the back, and she's like, well, what do you think of these? What are these feel. Do these feel good to you? And it's like she knew exactly what she was doing. And I reached down and put my hands on her legs, and I think she could feel that, like, my hand was almost trembling a little bit with excitement, because here I am with this beautiful girl that I've seen multiple times coming in here, had multiple. I wouldn't say dreams about, but fantasies about fantasizing about this specific girl.

[B]

Yeah.

[A]

Here she is asking me, put my hands on her legs.

[B]

And you're in a back room in the Victoria. I mean, there's like. I mean, come on. It's like a fantasy. This is like a porno. You know, hoser porn. You know what I mean?

[A]

Yes. It was one of the. And so I put my hands on her leg, and I start rubbing her calf. And then next thing you know, her shoe slips off and she starts sliding her foot up my leg. And then I stand up, we embrace, I kiss her. And it was because to me, there's a big difference between and making love. And there's that passionate, raw, you know, kissing for hours, making love, which is. Can be one of the most beautiful things in the world. There's also that raw, passionate, where it's like it, it's so animalistic and it's so primitive that it's raw and it's intense and it's just straight. And that's what that was. And, and I think that that was one of the first times that I realized that sex and love have nothing to do with it. With each other.

[B]

Yeah.

[A]

Great when they go together, but they don't have to go together.

[B]

Yeah.

[A]

And in that moment when I'm embraced with this girl and this situation, it became so exhilarating. And what I realized that some of the best not making love you're ever gonna do is either with somebody you shouldn't be or in a place you shouldn't be.

[B]

Isn't that the sound?

[A]

You are sad truth right now. If you are someone you are not supposed to be in a place you're not supposed to be.

[B]

Oh my God. Top of the mountain.

[A]

Amazing. And that's what I realized at that moment.

[B]

Yeah.

[A]

They were separate, different things. And she was looking for something very specific. She was playing out a fantasy of some guy who was coming in who was fascinated with her and she was gonna play that role out. She played unbelievable in my fantasy as well.

[B]

Unbelievable. You like just her that time. Did you ever see her again after that?

[A]

Yes, but only in Victorious Secrets.

[B]

So. But so, and then. But it never did it again. It was just that one time thing. You see. I saw her again after that. It was like business as usual. Interesting. That makes it even better. The whole, that whole thing that it was just a one off. Don't you think? In a weird way?

[A]

Yeah. I mean, would I have liked it to happen again?

[B]

Of course, yes.

[A]

But I think the fact that I didn't go in there looking for it again was. I think some guys might have come back the very next day. But I also at the time, honestly, I was in a relationship with a girl and she knew why I was there. I was there buying this lingerie and these nylons for my girlfriend.

[B]

Oh my God. She was super naughty.

[A]

Yeah. She took advantage of the fact that she knew what I was into and. And I can't blame her for it.

[B]

Oh my God. That's a great story by the way. That's like a hoser porn. Like I said, so many hosers are gonna like pretend that fantasy, you know, for themselves. Do you think you get know because some hosers have said like. Oh, I think that, you know, ones that have really, you know, talked about the psychology of it and broke it down. They think that maybe Most guys who are. And I've done these polls on Patreon, like, you know that most guys who are hosers are really leg guys. Like, do you consider yourself a leg guy or a foot guy?

[A]

100%.

[B]

100%.

[A]

100%. Yes. That's. And you know what else I also think is it may be hereditary Carry. Because later on in life, I found out my father had the same exact fetish. And I have three boys, and. And I'm pretty sure my oldest one has the same exact fetish because I can remember when he was a little kid and he was, like, just walking around, he was gravitating the girls at the family functions that were wearing nylons. Like, he would go over to them and he would hold their legs and, like, stroke their legs. And it's like, I think it may be hereditary, Terry. I don't know, but I don't know where it comes from. But I do know that you like what you like, and nothing, nothing you can do is gonna change that. Be pretending isn't gonna make it go away. It's always gonna be there. I'm always gonna see girls and nylons, and I'm always gonna be attracted to it, and I'm not ashamed of it anymore. I'm not embarrassed of it. Do I go out publicly wearing nylons pants? No, I don't. I. I keep.

[B]

So you only wear at home is what you're saying. You did say sometimes you go out and a girl sees them on your ankle, so you have to be going out with them on.

[A]

Oh, I do. But I'm wearing pants over them. Like I'm.

[B]

Oh, meaning you're not with this, like. Right. Wearing them with a pair of shorts. You're not publicly showing people that you're wearing them, but you do wear them on the DL, Correct?

[A]

Exactly. Yes, I do.

[B]

Yeah.

[A]

In fact, during the winter length of time, I wear them on most days because as much as I enjoy wearing them, I really hate the cold.

[B]

Yeah, me too.

[A]

I mean, I hate the cold more than anything. I'm such a baby when it comes to the cold.

[B]

Yeah.

[A]

And they work really well, so I. I do. That's. It's funny how that all started. Even though I was, you know, I had a fetish for nylons, I really didn't dig wearing them. And it wasn't until that cold day that I put them on that I was like, this might be okay with something thing. And it wasn't until I actually shaved my legs.

[B]

Yeah. Which I think is a very interesting thing. I Feel like there's some hosers maybe that never did that, that might wind up trying it because of what you said. What else do you think about pantyhose and the fetish? That you want to, like, talk for the last 10 minutes and maybe, you know, tell guys that you have come to the conclusion about, you know.

[A]

Okay, well, there's two. One of them was that I had heard on your show, one of the guys talking about somebody saying he should shave his legs. He's one of the guys, I believe, that does, like, Instagram and things like that. And he's like, I'm not going to shave my legs because my wife is happy with the way they are. And all I would say is, you should try it just to see what it feels like.

[B]

Right. Especially if your wife is fine. Especially if his wife knows. Right. Why not? Right.

[A]

Right. If your wife is okay with the fact that you wear nylons and she doesn't want you to shave your legs and that's the reason why you're doing it. Just give it a try.

[B]

Right?

[A]

Because to me, it changed everything. The sensation was so different. They weren't itchy, they weren't uncomfortable. It felt like a second skin, and it felt like my own skin. And it was as comfortable in those types or nylons or whatever you want to call them as I've ever been in my whole entire life and never would have known that if I didn't hear that one guy talking about swimming and having to shave his legs because they. They make them wear pantyhose for drag.

[B]

Well, let me just tell you something. And now that you're calling in, by the way, I'm just going to give a shout out to hosers and cross dressers. Anyone listening on my Fetish Friday episode to you right now. Anybody who's a hoser or a cross dresser who calls in and gives me an episode gets a free membership to my Patreon. And there's so much exclusive, exclusive content over there. As a hoser, you're going to get access to probably like 70 to 100 more episodes or something, you know, because I do one a month, one new one a month, and it's all exclusive stuff that you can't hear anywhere else unless you're a Patreon member. You're gonna get a full year for free, right? So you're gonna have access to that when we hang up, and you're gonna see an episode that I just did. And this ties into your water thing with a hoser. Who, for my patreon members, they had me take a shout out shower and pantyhose. Because he was like, here to say that showering in pantyhose is like the most amazing experience. Have you ever tried to take a shower in pantyhose?

[A]

I have. And because when I, when I started, like, really embracing the lifestyle. Yeah. I looked up, like, pantyhose porn and stuff.

[B]

Yeah.

[A]

Like, wow, these people take it to a level I've never even thought of.

[B]

Exactly.

[A]

Like, they're putting it over their face. You know, they're full encasement. They're doing all this stuff. And I was like, I just wanted a girl to wear a pair of thigh eyes. Like, I didn't know we could go this far, but so I have tried it.

[B]

Yeah, I felt.

[A]

Yeah, it's. It's interesting. Did I, did I. It didn't really turn me on as much as like, just regular nylons would, but I do say that I, I kind of dig seeing the girls, like, laying by the pool and like dipping their feet into the pool with a pair of nylons on. I think it gives it an extra little glisten to it. And, and, And I'm kind of attracted to that, but I definitely don't have a. And. And I feel like some hosers are specific to. They want their nylons to be wet and.

[B]

Yeah, it's interesting. What's your second thing that you wanted to say? You said two things. You wanted to make a point. The point was sharing the legs. What was the second thing you wanted to say before?

[A]

And the other one was the one about, you know, all these guys talking about, how do I get my wife to wear.

[B]

Yes, yes.

[A]

How do I get my wife to wear Panic? And. And the way I started, like I said, was telling them straight from the beginning that, yeah, I have a texture fetish. I like the way things feel. For example, I love the way fishnets look. I love it. But I don't want to put my hands on. I don't really want to touch it. And that's kind of the way I would explain it. And even for me, specifically, like, food has to be a right texture. Like, I just, I really do have a texture thing. And telling them, them and letting them know what you like in settling. I can't imagine, like all these guys I hear calling it, and they're like, my wife would never do that. My wife would never do that. Unfortunately, I lost my brother a couple of years ago. And when that happened, him being so young, I realized, as far as I know, we're only getting one shot at this.

[B]

True.

[A]

So I am going to do all the things that I've ever wanted to do. Now, I'm not putting it off. I'm not pretending, and I'm not going to pretend I don't like this, and I'm not going to pretend that I do like this. I'm going to explain to you, this is exactly what I like and this is exactly what I don't like. And either you can be in a part of that and we can embrace it together and make it amazing, or it's going to end up separating us. Because most of the guys that I hear will end up cheating. They will end up getting what they're looking for. If they can't get it at home, they will go get it somewhere else. And I feel like that's a shame because you're not asking them to do something too odd. Like, I've never once been with a girl who said, no, I'm not putting on a pair of nylons. Now, I will say that one time I did meet a girl who was probably one of the most beautiful girls I'd ever met my whole entire life. On the date, I said to her in the beginning, oh, my gosh, I thought you had nylons on because your legs were so tan. And she said, said, no, I would never wear nylons. I hate nylons. They make my legs itch. I would never put on a pair. Now, I knew right then and there at that dinner this wasn't going any further.

[B]

Right.

[A]

Why would I put myself in a position like that and ask her to do something that makes her feel uncomfortable? No matter how beautiful she is, no matter how great her personality is, no matter how much we may click, I'm going to be excited about Erin Highlights. And if you don't ever, ever want to put one on, then it's. It's just not going to work between us. And I'm certainly not going to pretend anymore. So please don't pretend.

[B]

Let me ask you this, though, because a lot of guys, what does wind up happening to sometimes for the certain guys who actually tell their wives and their wives wear and everything, they find that over time the wife gets annoyed and sometimes says like, oh, you just want me to wear them all the time, so you must like them over me or whatever? I mean, are you very moderate in the way you sort of come to your girl about wearing hoes for you, or does she just always wear for you and you don't even have to ask her?

[A]

Well, this is the thing. I'm still turned on by women. I still like boobs. I still like legs. I still love the. The girl's flower. Like, to me, girls are the most amazing thing God ever created.

[B]

Right.

[A]

And I don't need my wife. Wife to wear nylons for us to fool around. I love her whether she's wearing them or not, and I'm excited by her whether she's wearing them or not. But when she does wear them, it just takes it to a different level. And I feel like she knows that. She knows. I mean, there's never been a time where we were about to have sex and I was like, can you just go put on a pair of tights real quick or a pair of nylons real quick? It's never happened because I'm so into her in the moment, and I feel like. Like that if the only time it's happening is when you're asking her to put nylons on, she may feel that way. And I feel it's important to let her know how amazing she is that it's not the nylons, that it's her in nylons.

[B]

Exactly.

[A]

My wife. Now, is she as beautiful as, you know, Selena Gomez? Probably not. You may not think so, but to me, I'm so in love with her that, like, every single thing she does turns me on.

[B]

Yeah, right.

[A]

So her wearing the nylons for me just makes. It's. Basically, she's doing it because she wants to make me happy, and making me happy is what makes her happy. And it goes both ways. Yeah. And I feel like that if your wife really loves you and she really wants to make you happy, she's gonna do this. And what I feel like most people aren't doing is communicating. But I know we only have a minute here, but I just wanted to put this out real quick. For example, okay? Most guys have no clue how to give a girl head, okay? They go up and down. They change. They do this, they do that. Now, some girls like medium pressure, some like hard pressure, some like light pressure. The only way you're really going to know, right, is if you don't communicate with one another verbally, then you have to get signals from her body, okay? And if you say she's a girl who likes medium pressure side to side, don't all of a sudden start going up and down, because then she's gonna have to start all over again. You have to keep that constant motion the whole entire time. And if she's not willing to communicate with you verbally, then you have to Figure it out by the signs of her body. She may start squirming, she may start moaning, and that's when you know you're in that zone. Whatever you do, don't change it. But you're never gonna get there if you don't communicate with each other. And some people just are too ashamed or too embarrassed or too afraid of what their spouse or someone who supposedly loves them may say to them.

[B]

Yeah, exactly.

[A]

Just because they like something different. And, and that's all I mean by communication. Like just communicate with one another. And if you can't do it verbally, then find another way.

[B]

Right? Yeah. Like I always say, like, buy, you know, set up a date night and buy her a whole outfit, you know, that includes a pair of hose. Or say, hey, I'm buying, buying you some lingerie and get her like a whole body suit of like a pantyhose thing, you know, I mean, there's ways to do it without saying, hey, I just want you, you to put on this pair of hose. Right? There's other ways to sort of go around to get her into it and do it. It's sad. Listen, the truth is you're very lucky, right? That you are with the girl that you are. You're very. It's just in your nature to always speak up for yourself because even when you were super young and confused about, about this, you still, no matter what, didn't keep it to yourself. You were very. Always upfront about it, like I said, even at a time when you didn't even know what the it was you were telling your girlfriends. I mean, a lot of hosers didn't do that then and they still won't do it now, you know, because they're just not that type. That's just. You've always been a communicator. You're very real. You're very upfront with who you are and what you're into from the get go, right? That's just your personality type. Type. And unfortunately, some people just aren't wired that way. Yeah, yeah, so am I. I have a voice. I don't understand people that can't say things. You know, it's just, I don't even under. You know what I mean? And so. But I gotta tell you, most people aren't that way and that. And therein lies the problem. But what I, what I love about your story is it the, the truth is what you said. It's not a big ask, okay? There's a lot worse things you could go to your girl and ask her. There's plenty of my guys going on my show, going, going to their girls and asking them to other guys. Okay. It's a lot easier to ask your girl to wear a pair of pantyhose for you. Okay. And so, yeah, so I don't think it's a big ask. I think that I've had. I have a Fetish Friday episode. There's a lot more fetishes out there that are harder to sell to your girl than this. And I love that you gave some really great tips on, you know, wearing yourself, the whole, you know, shaving your legs and how that's a total, you know, change, game changer. But I love your story. It's, like, just super inspiring. And, you know, hopefully guys maybe will speak up because they heard you talk about it or whatever and, you know, for guys who haven't yet. But thanks so much for calling in. And like I said, you're gonna get a link to Patreon. This is going to go up on a Fetish Friday episode. Okay. And when your episode comes out, that goes up on my Patreon the day before. Right. So probably next Thursday. It'll be up either this Friday or next Friday. But when it does go up the day before, I'll send you an email with the free link to a whole year of my Patreon Hoser tier. So you're going to get all that free content, plus you'll get into discord. There's a whole Hoser channel in there. There's a women in Hoes channel. You'll dig it. You're going to get a link to that, too.

[A]

Question real quick.

[B]

Sure.

[A]

Okay. I. I just want to say real quick. When we were talking about the communication, the thing, I get it. I am assertive and I'm not afraid to say it, but if you can't find a way, write a letter. Like, there's a bunch of different ways to communicate with one another. And I just hate the thought of people being out there, like,

[B]

write a letter or someone once said she likes to just drive around in a car when she's not looking at her husband. Like, he likes to talk that way. Because it's not like, eye to eye. There's all these apps now where you could, like, do quizzes where you both see if you're into the same thing. So there's so many different, creative, unique ways to put it out there and communicate without being direct. I think that's a great point. But listen, you're gonna.

[A]

You're not married you'll find someone out there who likes exactly what you like, I guarantee.

[B]

Yeah, strive for that instead of, you know, hanging your hat with somebody that maybe isn't ideal just because you're desperate to get married. Right. That's what I would say. But what did we call you again? Ivan. I love your. Your name. I love your whole story. I love that you called in. You know, if you want to send a pick of your. Of your pantyhose stash or something, you totally can. For my Patreon.

[A]

I know you always ask guys about to send the picture of the them in pantyhose. Like, am I supposed to be naked in the pantyhose?

[B]

Oh, no, no, no, no. Patreon is not like that. Patreon is. I know that I'm always like, no dicks and pics at all. If you want to send in and pantyhose, it's like of your legs and your feet. Nothing. Nothing X rated or, or you know, for Patreon at all. You'll see what goes down on discord. Any, you know, people post themselves. But if you want to send me pictures for my hoser for, for my hosers for Patreon. Yeah. It should not be. It should be the legs down. Nothing naughty in it at all. Okay. And if you want your stash. Yeah. So email me that. And thanks so much, Ivan, for calling in. I love talking to you. It was super fun.

[A]

All right, I'll talk to you.

[B]

Bye.

[A]

Bye.

[B]

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