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1529 - Joelle is Into Crossdressing, Facesitting, Pegging and More
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Welcome to the Strictly Anonymous Podcast. Strictly Anonymous Podcast. Conversations with online strangers. We place ads online. The Craigslist is definitely like the gift that keeps on giving. Real people respond.
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You go to Singapore or Thailand, you can't not do it. The temptation is just too much.
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Does your friend know that you're banging her? No, no.
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He has no idea.
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And anything goes.
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Motto of the show, let your freak flag fly.
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Probably the only good advice I'll ever give you is to rehide your whips and chain here. Host Kathy. Hey, welcome to the Strictly Anonymous podcast with Kathy. If you haven't follow the Strictly Anonymous podcast on Instagram or Twitter, follow me at Strict Anonymous if you want to be on the show. It's called Strictly Anonymous because I keep everyone anonymous. I change people's voices. You could email me from an phony email. Call me from a phony number. I just want to hear your true story. And since this is a Fetish Friday episode, I love to hear your story about your unique fetish. Whatever you're into. If you got a fetish, you could be on the show. And if you have a pantyhose fetish or a cross dressing fetish and you call in, I will give you free access to my Patreon. Now on my Patreon I have two tiers. One for cross dressers and one for hosers. Those are guys who like pantyhose. On those tiers you get every single episode early ad free, plus intro free. Also you get all the pics, anonymous picks of all my guests. Plus you get exclusive content over there. And since I've been doing this for many, many years over on Patreon, there's so much exclus pantyhose fetish episodes and cross dressing episodes that are only available on Patreon. The hoser tier is $8 a month. The cross dressing tier is $10 a month because Crushers also get the Hoser episodes as well. But if you call into my show, you're going to get a whole year free. So if you want to call into the show because you have a fetish that you want to talk about, send me an email strictly anonymous podcast gmail.com or go to my website, strictly anonymous podcast.com and click on Be in the Show. I do have a book out. It's called Strictly Anonymous Confession Secret Sex Lives of Total Strangers. It's available on Amazon and ebook and audiobook and and paperback. But it is now available for audiobook to pre order. Okay. It's coming out August 25th, so it's coming out very soon. You could purchase that my book any by going into the description and clicking on the link. Now anyone who calls into my show as well as anyone who buy buys my book. If you send me a screenshot of your purchase, I will give you free access to my Discord. My Discord is a super fun place and in there there are so many different channels. You get to post whatever you want there and everyone posts and talks to each other and there's a whole community over there. It's private, it's free. But you could only get the link through me. I throw it in complimentary to anyone who calls into my show, joins my patreon or buys my book. So send me a screenshot of your picture to Strictly Anonymous podcast gmail.com There is a lot of fetish and K channels over on my Discord. Okay, today I have on Joelle. Joel is great. He's got a very interesting story because Joel is a cross dresser, but he's also into a lot of different things. He started out getting into like feminine undergarments when he was younger, wearing panties. And then he got married. He wasn't allowed to do anything because he had a very vanilla wife. But and he didn't do much when he was with her. But when they ended, when things ended with her he went into something called his horror phase. And during his horror phase we get his stories on a lot of other crazy things that he did that have nothing to do with gracious thing. Like he like hooked up with women like in crazy scenarios and then a couple and he wound up having a hookup with a guy and he was into face sitting and cream pies and he got into that and then he got with another partner. They're not married but they've been together forever. So it's kind of like a wife. And she was into pegging and anal beads and all that kind of stuff. And then she wound up catching secretly dressing up. He had and he talks about how she wound up catching him, how she reacted did and then what went down after which is her him dressing up in front of her, how he felt about that, how she felt. He talks about, you know, how she eventually like wound up giving him advice on the way he cross dresses and what he's wearing. She eventually put makeup on him. They went out fully dressed one night and had a great time. He talks about like their intimate experiences together when he he's dressed up. He's now able to cross dress what he wants. He's got this maid thing that he has every Thursday talks about that when he's the maid and he gets to dress up. Today is Thursday that we were taping, so he was in his maid outfit, and he talks about what he was wearing, where he buys his clothes. He's very into chastity too, and he talks about that as well. So this is like a very interesting episode that has so much in it. His story is great. He's living his best life. Let me tell you, his second girl is like the girl of every cross dresser's dream. Wait till you hear all about her, because she's very accepting and the whole episode is great. So I'm going to get right to him. Be right back on with Joel. This is the Strictly Anonymous podcast. Strictly Anonymous podcast. Hi, Jo. Joelle. Welcome to the Strictly Anonymous podcast. How are you today?
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I'm doing good. Yourself? Good.
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I need to tell people what happened before we start ting because I was like, I hear you breathing like it's very loud, like, blah, blah, blah. And you're like, well, I am wearing a corset, and so I could barely breathe. It's like, oh, my God, it's so funny. I'm like, I need to tell everybody because you are dressed up for your call. You are a cross dresser. Joelle is your cross dressing name. And, you know, I want to like your whole life story. You know, why don't we go all the way back to how you got into cross dressing? You want to start there? I'm sure that's a long time ago.
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Sure. Well, okay, so actually, like, physically, cross dressing full has probably been the past, I'd say eight years.
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Okay.
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But definitely, like, most everyone you talk to. And I think I even heard one of your more recent episodes, the crossdresser. I don't know if it was on the Patreon exclusive or if it was on the public one. But, you know, he was talking about, like, the old Sears and JCPenney catalogs.
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Oh, they all do.
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Oh, man. I don't know what it was, but seeing those models in there, like corsets and especially like the. They had, like, the bridal lingerie section, and that was such a turn on.
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I'll tell you what it was. It was that there was no porn back then, right? There was. You know, unless you found your father's, like, Playboys under his bed or wherever he hit them, if you a good hider, you had no way of seeing anything. Nowadays, you know, they. They see it walking down the street. So the only way you could get a glimpse of A chick was in those catalogs.
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Yeah.
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So is it, like, feminine? Is it, like women's undergarments? That gets your interest right away.
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Oh, yes. Yeah. I. I was probably. I don't know. I can't. I don't know the exact age where I really started. There's probably like 13, you know, typical puberty, time frame hitting and. Yeah, just seeing that, like. And also, lo and behold, when they had, like, the. I remember hearing, like, Playtex cross your heart commercials on television. Like, that's been forever ago. But, you know, it was in. Seeing that on television was like, like, you know, that was my only, like, sexual, like, thing I could have access to.
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Yeah, you and tons of other guys. I had a roommate that told me that he loved the. The catalog to look at women in bras. You know, I mean, I don't even think he was a crusher that I know of, but I think a lot of guys, whether you were interested in wearing it yourself or not, that's where you saw boobs. The most boobs. Oh, you could see, you know, what was underneath all these women and girls
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walking around, and it just, like I said, like, the. The see the girl. The ladies in their panties and bras, and you could see their, you know, tits smashed up or bigger than normal. And then definitely, I think the corset part really, you know, I didn't know it then, but, you know, that helped. Excellent. I don't know. What's the word? Accentuate the. The female form. That hourglass look.
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Oh, yeah. That's what it's all about. That's why you're literally not breathing, talking to me. Because it's making you look really. It's giving you the hourglass look. That's what it's for.
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As best, best. As best as they can.
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You're doing good. You're doing good. Okay, so you start noticing all that stuff. That's one thing to notice. Like I said, I had a roommate guy who said he used to look into, look at the bras, but he wasn't necessarily wearing. When do you start thinking, oh, like, I want to be those girls or I want to put that on? I mean, like, what comes next?
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I would say probably maybe, I don't know, 15 or 16 is when the first time I ever tried on a pair of panties. And of course, it's just like anybody else. It was my older sisters. Both my sisters are significantly older than me. So by my teenage years, they were out of the house. They were. Either one was starting their life, career, and the other one was still in college. So it's like kind of, I was left alone, you know, Great general. What do you call that? The Gen X story? The latchkey kid.
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Oh, yeah. We were like, yeah, the way we treat our kids is very different. The way we got treated. We did whatever the we wanted
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and, you know, we were left alone a lot. So I remember my sister, she came home from college and it was like spring break and she was getting to do like, you know, the parents kind of let the leash out a little bit on her. She knew, they knew her friends, they let her go. But she had a lot of laundry left over. And, you know, being the kid, I learned how to do laundry. And I was like, well, send the dirty clothes. I'll just clean it, you know. And then when I was done, I was, you know, I just like, like, I wonder what these feel like. So I put them on like any other young teenage kid does and just found it really exciting and, you know, very arousing at the same time.
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What was it that was arousing? The feeling of it. Did you look at yourself in the mirror?
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Definitely. The feeling of it, yes. Like, I mean, because, you know, that's not like once again, not like today, that rear options were basically any whities and it was such a different feel, an escape than the normal. So, yeah, definitely. You know, I tried that on and like I said, I could basically wear it, you know, whenever, because I knew my parents schedules, like they both worked and I knew they were not going to come home before a certain time. It just never happened. I never, never got caught by my parents.
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So thank God for them. Not just for you, for them, you know, because that generation was just lived in denial anyway. Like, they didn't want to know anything. You know what I'm saying?
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Ye. Yes.
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So it's good.
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Yes. And so that went on. And then of course, you know, my mom was a professional woman, so she wore the old, you know, the blouse, the skirt, the slip, the heat, the. The pantyhose. And I tried the pantyhose on too. And I just found that a lot of fun. And luckily my mom and I, we were the same height, the same build. Like, basically I am just a male version of her to a degree. So, you know, when I finally hit, like, you know, 17, 18, I could try on. I could actually fit her clothes just the same as she did, and I could walk around in her heels and her. It was just a lot of fun. Now, she had no corsets, unfortunately, so I Didn't get to enjoy that as a young kid, but that happened. So that was definitely, I guess, the backstory and all. But also to put to. Probably more to the kink of my life that I enjoy the mo. The kinks I enjoy the most. Fetishes is like you said, we didn't have it. Like, we didn't have. Well, we did have television porn, but that was, you know, few and far between. But then I found a copy somewhere on the street. I grew up in a very major city on the east coast, and I found a copy of Penthouse Variations. Oh, what was that? Familiar with that?
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No. I don't know.
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So it was like. It was like a smaller. It was like. What do you call that? Reader's Digest size.
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Okay.
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But it had stories in it.
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Right.
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And these weren't the typical, like, just male and female. It was like, you know, bdsm, cross dressing, you know, forced by gang bangs. It was all of that.
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It's like my show.
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Yes. Yeah, you're so. Yeah, I discovered you're so about. About four years ago, and it's been great. Yeah, there you go.
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You got the same variety, right? I got the same variety. Oh, yeah, yeah.
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But definitely. I always found the stories of the guy being cross dressed and being pegged or, you know, stuff like that was always the ones that turned me on the most. And even through, like, my early adult life, you know, once I left the house, I joined the military and I did 22 years. So. But a lot of that time, you know, the cross dressing was repressed. Definitely. I didn't do it during any of that time, especially when I lived in the barracks. But even when I lived on my own, I really didn't do it just because. I don't know. Well, one kind of busy for most of it, but. Yeah, I just never really did a lot of the cross dressing. But I still did enjoy the fetishes and the kinks.
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It. Like in your fantasy or reading about. Right, exactly. In your mind and maybe because you. Listen, how old are you right now?
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I'm 51.
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Okay, so maybe back then when you were on your own, like, was Amazon around yet? To just, like, buy and enter your house secretly? So maybe that's why you weren't.
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Well, it was.
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Oh, it was. Yeah.
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I mean, I came up. Yeah. Through the whole Internet generation, you know, the dial up and all of that stuff. But I also got married younger and. So.
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Oh, so you're not by yourself when you say living alone. You're not living alone. You're Living with your wife?
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Yeah, I was living alone for a little bit, but then I got married and that was. I mean, and then we're not together anymore. But like, definitely during that time. Yeah, it just, she. We did try, we did talk about some kinky things, but she was definitely not open to anything.
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But what were you doing considering she's not even in your life anymore? Like, what were you doing when it came to cross dressing through these, through these years when you're, you know, now out of your parents house, out of the barracks with a woman living with her, you know, are you secretly cross dressing? Are you going all the way yet? Like, what do you do?
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No, I'm not. I'm secretly. At most, I'm just reading about it.
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Oh, okay. So. Yeah. But you were playing with her panties secretly.
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Yes.
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Okay. Did she ever catch you?
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No, she never caught me.
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Okay.
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You know, but you know, we did. I did try to bring up stuff and you could just tell she was very like, no, this is just. This is how it is. This is. Sex is just for like a little bit of pleasure, but mainly for having kids. And I was like, oh, okay. You know.
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Yeah.
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And so, you know, I really did love her and. But we did just eventually grow apart.
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And just life was just different. So we divorced, but.
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Okay. Did you ever get remarried?
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Not technically married, but I have been with the same woman right now for 10. The past 10 years.
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Okay, so we'll get to her. So. But let's. Let's go back to, like, after your divorce and now you're living on your own. How old were you at that time? Are you still only like 25?
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I was 30, so 17. 27. I'm doing all the fast around.
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Like, Was it late 20s?
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I was 39. 39 when I was divorced.
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Oh, no, you stayed with her. You stayed with that wife for a long time.
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Oh, yeah. 18 years.
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Oh, my God. Okay, so you. 18 years. All you're doing is like kind of reading, probably Googling about it, but also wearing her panties, but nothing further than that. No bras, no legging, like, no, like, no pantyhose, no lingerie.
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Nope. Because she would have known. She would have found it, and I knew better than to deal with that. Like, she did find a porn magazine once, and that created a whole issue and a whole long term deal. Just a mess with it. Just created a lot of friction. Yeah.
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It's not ridiculous. It's like, so stupid.
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It is.
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Yeah.
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But anyway, I just learned to, like, not even try to hide it because if I did, it would just be found and it was not worth the headache to go along and you would lose your family.
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I'm assuming you had kids with her.
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Yes. Yeah.
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So you don't want to lose all of that stuff. Okay, so you were like, listen, I give you credit. Some people can't control themselves. Houses. But you really didn't want to get caught, so you kept it at a minimum for all that time. But now that you get divorced, what goes down?
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Oh, I hit the horse stage. Oh, let me tell you, I hit the horse stage.
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You made up for it.
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Oh, yeah, I made up for it.
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You're saying. You're saying horror phase, right?
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Oh, yes. Whatever you want to call it.
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Yeah. Okay.
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Joel is. Oh, yeah. And that's back. You know, like you said Craigslist was wild. It was a wild time back then. And also Kick was one of the newer messenger apps. And it actually, at that time, it had video chatting, which it doesn't now, which really sucks. But so I would just meet all kinds of different people in the area I lived in. And what kind of people are you meeting first? I met this. This woman, and she was pretty much in a, like, I wouldn't say sexless marriage. But it was only when her husband, who was a complete dick, he only wanted to do it, or if it was like a threesome, he would set it up with who he wanted. Like, she never got any real input into it. And so she was just like, I just wanted. Want someone to eat my. That's all I want. I was like, oh, I'm down for that. I love.
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Oh, my God.
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And that was one of my things. My ex did not like. She did not like oral. I'm like, yeah. What the. Why do you not.
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Yeah.
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And so I met up with her, and the first time we met was at her place, but she was like, hey, we got to go into this little. Like, she shed. She had. She goes. Because her sons were in the main house and her husband was gone for some whatever, weekend thing. So I'm like, I don't care. I'm getting some. She's getting some. And so, you know, went down, did the deed with her, had fun. She was a squirter. And, oh, my God, that turned me on even more. But she was like, okay, I gotta go back in. And I'm left there, you know, hard as. Hard as a rock. So, you know, whatever. Go home. I go back to my little place and just jack off and enjoy that one. And then it just became like, let's see what I can find. I learned it is insane. I just got on Craigslist and put ads out myself. Like, not looking for much in return. Not looking to. I just want to eat and ass. That's it.
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Oh, my God.
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And it is amazing. Like, click, click, click. Kept hitting.
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Oh, yeah. Who was responding to you? It's not just women. Right. It's more guys.
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Right? Well, I wasn't as a. I was just a guy doing stuff. I was just having fun with sex. And.
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No, I know, but I would still assume on Craigslist is, you know, guys, there's more guys on there than women that you probably did get hit up by dudes now or dudes pretending they were girls, probably.
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But then you're like, hey, okay, I'm ready. I'm down to do this. Let's go meet. And of course, that was probably the guys.
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Yeah.
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But the ones who were, you know, basically, we would find out, hey, we both had kick. And we'd get on kick, and we would sit and talk back and forth and be like, okay, let's meet up. Let's do this. And we would. And, you know, someone come over to my place.
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Wow.
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Someone go to theirs.
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It's pretty incredible. Your Story. It's more interesting because it's not like. Because I don't know what was going on in your town and your Craigslist, but typically, you know, a lot of guys don't find a lot of women on there. My show started during the Craigslist days, you know, so I know all about it. So it's surprising to me that you had. Had, you know, a fair amount of women responding and women in action with women from your ads, you know, well,
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to be fair, I was still living in the same area where I retired out of the military from. And it is. It's the largest army base in the United States. And so, like, you know, a couple 10, you know, Austin, Texas was only an hour away. So like. And in Texas, you can drive. Drive. You know, driving four hours and coming back on the same night's not unheard of. It's a big state. So, you know, I would go and a lot of these women were like, their husbands were deployed or they're.
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Right, that's where I thought you were going. Yeah. Okay. So that's the key. That's the key to getting chicks.
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Yeah. There's a lot of.
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I'm sorry to keep cutting up. No, because no other town except one of those. Are you going to get all those women emailing you? I'm just. Sorry. It's just not. It's the norm.
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100. I'm not like, I know I'm not the most handsome guy.
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It doesn't matter if you were a 10 or a 12. That has nothing to do with it. There's just not that many women in places doing that. But when you have a small place where all these women, like you said, their husbands are deployed, you got a lot of act. You know, it makes sense that it's the location that was the difference. Makes sense. It's interesting. I'm glad I asked because that's kind of Craigslist doesn't exist anymore. But, you know, know that would have been a key. That would have been a great tip to some people. So go on with your story. So you're just hooking up with women at this point. So what. What goes down?
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Eventually I meet. I'm talking to this one woman, she's like, well, I really like. She goes, would you be interested in, like, my husband giving you a blow job or are you him? Oh. And I'm like, well, as long as I get to your. I guess I can deal with some. We can try this and see how I like it. So you know me. Let's Say we go over there. We. We all. Well, we meet at a restaurant the first time. Like, I always got to that point where I'm like, I'm randomly running into someone's house because I got lucky. Like, I had no issues. But, like, there was a couple times, like, it kind of felt off, you know what I mean? Like, the whole. Just something felt weird. So I was like, okay, I'm not going. Like, I was pulled up to one person's house and I knew something felt weird. And I'm like, I don't know what's going on. I'm not going to risk this. I'm done. I'm out. And I left. So, you know, I never talked to that lady again. But, you know, you know, quite possibly could have been fine, but I just. What? I didn't think it was worth the risk. So then I started like, well, if this lady and her husband want to do this, I'm willing to try, but I want to meet them first. Like, I was not going to get set up in some situation.
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Okay.
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So we met and we met. We had dinner together and drank and all, and it was a lot of fun. And they sat together the first. At first. And then she went up to go to the bathroom and him and I were just talking. We got along great. And then so she sat next to me and there was a little bit of touching and feeling going on. You know, my feeling her leg, her feeling me up. And then her and her husband switched and he was feeling me up and like, okay, this is different. But I don't. Like, I'm not opposed to it. Like, it's. I'm not freaked out by it at all.
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Yeah.
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So then we're like, okay, let's go. Like, so when your schedules and my schedule work, we can meet up and like, we can. If you guys want to get a hotel, we can get a hotel. You know, if your place, whatever. So first time we met up was at a hotel, and it was a lot of fun. And, you know, through our talks, you know, she definitely found out I had a kink for face setting where I like to just lay down and a woman get on top and she can grind her and ass on me and on my mouth any way she wants, you know, let her have the control. And that's what I found out. I like the not being in control. Right.
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Kind of being smothered a little bit. Face sitting. Right. The same thing. Yeah, all of that. Okay.
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B
So she. I laid down, she sat on my face. And while that. And she, me and her just started out 69 and her husband watched. Then she got up and I could definitely tell by, you know, the pressure and the weight shift that. And then her husband started blowing me. I'm like, feels good. I'm not having a problem with this. And we're having good. It was a good night. I end up coming in his mouth and she comes on my face and he ends up her. And I've always read about cream pie eating. I'm like, it. I'm doing this like, oh, my God,
- [26:18]
A
this is your horror face.
- [26:20]
B
It is. I'm like, this is my first chance ever to do this. And. And I was like, yeah, I want to eat you now. She's like, okay. So she laid on the edge of the bed. I got there and I got to. And it was just great. I enjoyed it. So played with them for a good while and I did end up topping him. I end up sucking him. And that's about as far as I ever went with him and her and I a lot even. You know, there's a lot of normal stories with that. But never. It never got the cross dressing or anything. It was just me like, hey, I. I do not mind a little bit of bisexuality. Does not bother me a bit. I enjoyed it. And then so life changed and I ended up moving out of that area. So definitely that, well, is run dry. But I end up meeting my current partner. We call each other husband and wife to everyone because it's just easier.
- [27:21]
A
Okay.
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B
But we've lived together, you know, for. No, we've known each other for 10. We've lived together for eight. And at the beginning, she knew nothing of all of the cross dressing or the kinks. But that has come out over time. And, well, let's see. Because she was married and divorced also, and she was kind of. She wasn't quite going through her horror phase as much as I was, but she just enjoyed the. She's a pillow princess any day of the week. It works perfect for me.
- [28:00]
A
Because you love that.
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B
Yeah, I love that. And then everything else. But, you know, one time we were just playing around and she was giving me a blow job and then she was like rubbing her hands and she just touched my ass. I was like, that feels good. And she was like, that doesn't bother him. Like, yeah, it feels good, you know. So things went on and on. Then finally now she didn't do much more than just play around the outside. And then we're driving one day and she's like, would you mind if I shut the anal beads of your ass while I'm blowing you. And I'm like, hell no. I'm like, oh, my God. So, you know, instant hard on. But she's thinking, this is. This is turning him on. And I'm like, oh, my God, this is back to those Penthouse variation days. I'm like, I'm finally finding a woman who's a little more controlling. Like, this is great.
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A
Yeah.
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B
So, you know, we do that. That's fun and enjoyable. Definitely a different sensation. And, you know, we're going on and on. And then she was like, she goes, I don't know. I. I really never knew how we got to these conversations, but she was talking one time. She's like, would you ever like to get pegged? I'm like. And so she knew the term, which means she had some history or thought of it. And I'm like, yeah, I'm willing to try that in my brain. I'm like, yes. You know, that old cartoon cat with the bugging out, all that craziness that's going on in my brain. But I'm trying to play it cool, like, because she only sees me as more of the alpha male type at that point, you know, I was. I'm a manager where I work, so that's all she ever sees, is me in control, making things happen and things get done, you know, so that's all she ever really sees. So that's. And she knew. And she knew about my army life. So, you know, that's. That's how she sees me. But I'm like, hell yes. Finally, you know, jackpot. Ding, ding. You know, all the nickels. And so it takes some time and she does do it. And I did enjoy it. I don't know if she enjoyed it, but, like, it's like you said, she said it. And other people said, like, it's fun to watch, but, like, there's no, like, real feeling, I guess, to the woman going in and out. I guess it's more. I don't know if it's a visual or psychological thing for women, but. But she was like, it was fun to do, but not as exciting as I thought it would be.
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A
Right?
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B
So I was like, a little let down.
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A
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B
And then. So the way the cross dressing part comes out is I went away for a business trip. I'm in a room by myself, and I'm like. And I knew there was a lingerie store down the street. I'm like, screw it. I'm just going to go down there. So I go down there, I buy like a body stocking. I buy a small dildo, and I buy a corset. There's there. And I go there. I'm having fun my whole week there, enjoying this, everything. And I come home and I just threw all that stuff away. Like, oh, she's never gonna see. Never fun. You know, I spent a hundred and some dollars. I got my enjoyment out of it. Life is good, right?
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A
But it's a secret issue. Yeah, it's still a secret.
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B
Yeah. And she finds out because this idiot here left a receipt in his wallet and it was like sticking out, like. So I just threw my wallet on the nightstand like I normally do. And she just saw that. And so she was like, what's that? And she looked at it and she was. And I had the day off. And she's like, what is this? Who did you buy this for? Like, I. I bought it for nobody. I bought it for myself. And at first she was like, yeah, whatever, you know, I. I understand. She doesn't believe. I'm like, look, I bought it for myself. Like, I did not buy it for some other woman. Did not mess around with some other woman, you know, because one Craigslist isn't around. And I met the hotel with, like, other people in the company I'm in, so I don't need them to see some random woman coming in and out. So I'm like, I know to play it a little safer that way because you don't where you eat, you know?
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A
Yeah.
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B
So. And she's like, whatever. Like, she goes. And so she. And I. She was best. And she's like, well, do you have it? I'm like, no, I threw it all away. She goes, oh, you gave it away? I'm like, no, I threw it away. I bought it for myself. I did this every night, generally, after you and I talked on the phone, I would just have fun, and then I'd go to sleep, and next day, dude, like, just repeat the whole process. And she was like, fine, whatever. I have to go to work. And so she goes to work, and she sends me a text. She goes, if that was really you, I want to see you when. Something like that. And I'm like. She goes, when I get home.
- [36:14]
A
Interesting.
- [36:14]
B
Like, so it's like, this is like
- [36:16]
A
the girl of your dreams, though, but kind of.
- [36:18]
B
Yes. So it's like, quick Google. I hit Google up, and I'm looking around, and it's like, nearest lingerie store and all this. And like, oh, there's there an hour away as an adult store near. Near the airport, which they always seem to be by. So my like, well, let me. Let me cruise. Cruise down there. I buy some things, I come back home, I have them on. And it was really weird the first time she came home, and she's like, well, let's see. It was really weird being in lingerie for the first time in front of somebody else.
- [36:52]
A
I could imagine that.
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B
So I was nervous. I didn't know what to say. And you could just see she was like, you know, just looking at, you know, like, okay, this is different. Like, like, all right. And you're wearing.
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A
What are you wearing, by the way?
- [37:06]
B
I'm wearing, like, a. A body. Just a body stocking. One that go. But it was crotchless, so, you know, cover the legs, the chest, and the arms. And I had a corset on. And I think she was impressed. I could. I could get a corset on, right?
- [37:20]
A
I can imagine.
- [37:21]
B
Because by yourself, it is a lot more difficult than people agree, right? People would even know. So she's like, okay, and what do you like to do in this? And I'm like, well, I would love to, you know, go down on you. And she's like, okay, that can happen. And she goes. And so I'm going down on her, and she's talking to me, and she flips over, and she goes, well, now worship my ass. So I'm playing with her ass and having all that fun, and she goes, okay, it's time for your ass. And like, okay. She goes, lay down. Get doggy position. And I can feel the cold lube hit. And then, see, she just slams. She grabbed one of her dildos out and just slammed it into me. I was like, okay, you know, better.
- [38:04]
A
You know, I'm like, how is she getting you back?
- [38:07]
B
Well, no, because I. I've always wanted a triangle with her, but she is like. She doesn't mind, like, a finger or my tongue, but she's like, no. No toys, nothing. Your is way too big for my ass. So I'm like, okay, you know what I enjoy the most I'm getting to do. I'm not complaining about not getting to stick my dick in her ass at all, But I'm just like, you know, I'm like. I'm like, what do you not know better? Like, you don't like when I just shove my dick up your. Up your. Like, what? Do you think this is any different? Yeah. So she's like, okay, let me try this again. So then she slowly works it in and out this time. I don't know if she was just mad at me about catching me and that was her way to get back at me. Probably was. But, you know, she was like, okay, you know, all right. She goes. And she. When we were done, she's like, just change. And she goes, let me just process this, you know, for a while. And then, of course, the typical questions come up. Like, she goes, are you gay? I'm like, no, I'm not gay. Literally, I'm not. She goes, well, are you bisexual? And I'm like. And that's when I tell her, like, you know, I have met. I have hooked up with guys before, and I go, I have sucked before. And, you know, she was like, well, tell me some of those stories. And I tell her about them. And she's like, have you. She go, since me and you have been together, have you cheated on me? It's like, no. She goes, guy or girl? Like, no. Like, it's all been this. And she's like, okay. So luckily, about the same time I got caught and all that's when, like, the big. What do you want to call? Call it like, Teemu Explosion hit. So you could buy stuff super cheap to see how it fit or how it worked. It definitely, like, it's good for, like, trying some, like, niche things. But, like, that's not where definitely there's stores that cater to cross dressers. And because, you know, men have different sizes and proportions and so finding women's clothes to actually fit and look good is a lot more difficult. Right? So there I've. I have discovered some of those different stores that do cater to.
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A
What are the names? You don't know, but they're there on teu. Is what you. How do you find them?
- [40:17]
B
Google. You just Google Crossdresser Men. And then like certain sites will hit up and like, you do pay a little a premium for the specialty service, but once you figure out their like, measurement system and all, it you, it's worth it because you're not buying something that, oh, I can't fit into this because.
- [40:40]
A
Right.
- [40:40]
B
Definitely there's websites that are like, oh, yeah, you know, this is a women's like extra large. Extra extra large, 2 XL. I put it on and it's like I can't even close the thing around me.
- [40:49]
A
Wow.
- [40:50]
B
It's like there's no way, like, so definitely a lot of trial and error and learning to close. So over the years, you know, it's gotten to be like, well, let's try it on. Let me see. And so. And she'll be like, you look like a train wreck. So you'll tell me I look good. Like, okay, that outfit that works, that's a good complete outfit. Or she'll be like, that's, that's just, that's just a mess.
- [41:15]
A
She like, helps you out. She like, right, she does, yeah.
- [41:18]
B
Yes. And so she has taught me how to do makeup and I am okay at it, but she definitely has done makeup for me where, of course, you know, she makes it look good and. Right. So the one, the first time she ever did my makeup, she was like, hey, what do you want to do for your birthday? And I have one of those great birthdays that's in between Thanksgiving and Christmas, so. And I'm like, I don't want you to buy me anything. I go, I just want us to go on a little vacation. And I go, I want to go out one night fully dressed, me and you. And so we went to Casino of Vegas. This so you know, you can be cross dress public there and nobody's gonna care because there's enough other freaky walking up and down the streets that no one's gonna freak out about.
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A
Yeah.
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B
And it's far enough away from where we live. You know, the chance of us running into somebody is slim. So we go, we just enjoy our first few days at the casino. And, and I. And she's like, okay, tonight's the night. Are you ready? I'm like, yeah, I'm ready. So I go through, pick out the outfit. She looks at her, she goes, okay, yeah. She goes, we need to go get a few more things to make it better. So we go get like, you know, this is smaller things like the jewelry, the things that make it look, you know, push the looking from good to looking. Great. So we get all that together and get dressed up. I shave, put the dress on, put the breast, put the breastboards on, the corset on the heels, the. The stockings, every. The full. The full thing. You know, the JCPenney catalog come to life.
- [42:57]
A
Yeah.
- [42:57]
B
And. And the dress and then the wig. And she does my makeup and she was like. And by this point, my mom has already passed, so she goes, oh, my goodness, you look just like your mom.
- [43:10]
A
Wow.
- [43:11]
B
I'm like, I don't know if that's a good thing or a bad thing, but she.
- [43:15]
A
You did say your carbon copy of her. Her.
- [43:17]
B
Yeah. And so I'm like, okay. She goes, well, let's go. You know, she got dressed up, looking good, and so we just had fun walking around the casinos playing the games. And she was generally always buying me, but she'd be like, hey, go get some drinks. So I go get drinks and come back. And I think she. I think she did enjoy being me, being out like that. And it was nice having her with me. So, you know, if things did get uncomfortable, at least I had somebody who I trusted next to me. So we just. That was the first time ever went out. It was a lot of fun. Then we just go back to the room and we have a lot of fun with, you know, then we just fool around and her in. L. Like, I would rather see a woman in lingerie than I would rather than see a woman naked.
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A
Right.
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B
Just.
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A
Yeah.
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B
And I know a lot of guys are like that.
- [44:05]
A
Yeah.
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B
And having. Having sex with her while we're both. Both, like, in lingerie was one of the sexiest things ever. So great birthday to me.
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A
That was the first time.
- [44:19]
B
The first time her and I had sex together, both dressed up.
- [44:24]
A
Yeah.
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B
Perfect.
- [44:24]
A
Okay, cool.
- [44:26]
B
Yes. And so, you know, and after that, you know, that's when we I filmed your podcast a little bit before that, but then we started, like on long drives. We definitely listen to it. That's the great thing about media. Now I don't have to listen to it. You know, you don't have to plan your life around when you're going to watch or listen to something.
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A
Yeah. It's great, right? I can't believe it took you this long to call in. Has your way.
- [44:51]
B
I've been listening to you for about five or six years.
- [44:53]
A
Yeah.
- [44:54]
B
Yeah.
- [44:54]
A
Has your wife ever given you like a free pat? Like she knows you're into guys. Right. Have you ever, like, I mean, I'm assuming she mocks it up when she picks pegs you and everything so. And you're not a cheater, so you're not going to do anything about it. Has she ever talked about you being with a guy or wondered if you have that urge because you have done it in the past, but I'm assuming you haven't while you're with her, correct?
- [45:16]
B
No, I have not while I was with her. I have talked to her like we've talked about it and it's like I'm like, I don't ever find a guy like attractive in day to day life. Attractive, but like a deck. Yeah, it's, it's fun. I, you know, when I did suck a dick, it was a lot of fun having one of my mouth hearing me be able to get that guy off. Right. So. Which is really weird because like sexually I don't want to be in charge of anything. I just want to be submissive.
- [45:46]
A
Yeah. Interesting.
- [45:48]
B
So and I brought that up to her and like we've tried some like femdom weekends or like some things and, and it's, it's harder I think for her to grasp the whole concept or get into that space, that mind space.
- [46:03]
A
But that's okay with you, right? Because you're fine with like everything that you have at home, I'm assuming, yes. Because like you said, it's not like you're the type of guy that's into guys when they're walking around. It's more so like if it's in the, it's if, if in the moment it, it's there, you'll go for it, but it's not like something that you're craving. Is that correct?
- [46:25]
B
That is correct. Yeah. Definitely not craving. No.
- [46:28]
A
Yeah. Interesting. And so how like what's your routine now? Like does she dress up a lot in lingerie after? Like you realize you love that so much. Is that some something that happens once in a blue moon?
- [46:39]
B
Oh no, that happens often. She knows definitely when she knew early on that I like like lingerie. Lingerie.
- [46:47]
A
Yeah.
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B
And she's what we would be called a bbw. And you know, just her skin is soft. She looks cute in her different lingerie outfits and it turns me on.
- [46:57]
A
Right.
- [46:57]
B
And she knows it. But then, you know, age hits up to every guy and Bluetooth does wonders. But my biggest issue is not getting hard. It's just the fact that now for some reason my endurance, sexual endurance is nowhere near what it used to be. Interesting.
- [47:15]
A
Why do you think that's by the way? Have you tried by the way? Have you tried Bluetooth Gold?
- [47:21]
B
No, I have. And I have heard that. I might. Well, let me.
- [47:25]
A
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- [48:23]
B
Okay, I'll try that. Yeah, definitely. I'll let you know.
- [48:25]
A
Yeah, let me know. I love it. Yeah, go on.
- [48:28]
B
So definitely, because I don't last as long, but luckily I enjoy oral and she enjoys receiving oral that, you know, it still works out that I can get her off, but you could tell, like, she's not getting off by me penetrating her all the time. And she's not really ever expressed interest in, like, hot wifing or anything like that. I have let her know, like, I would have no problem with you having sex with another guy to help you get off, but she hasn't. And, you know, I'm not going to push that. That area because once again, we're both.
- [49:00]
A
Yeah, yeah.
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B
We're both in our 50s. We're both like. Like, our kids are growing on their own, so we can have some fun. But, like, I also know, like, it's not. It's not worth pushing an issue. Like, it might happen one day down the road, but if I push the issue, it'll probably never happen.
- [49:16]
A
Right, right. Well, you know, listen, if you listen to my show and you hear all these guys that sometimes, sometimes eventually do get the wives to do it. It is a matter of playing the long game. You know what I mean? For sure. You know, there are things you can include in your daily life that meet might lead to it. Like what guys typically start with is just like the role playing, you know what I mean? When you're together. And that could maybe help like with satisfying her too if you know, getting toys and pretending that another other guy is there with you.
- [49:51]
B
Yeah, we've done it to a degree. Like where I told her like, you know, you know, so we were on like a trip and we stopped at a rest area like 15 minutes before we would get home and I her came in her and then when we got home, the fact that like we got home and like her, she had a come filled that I went down on was. Was a lot of fun. Like it was great. Right, right. Because it kind of. And she knew that and like it kind of was a role playing scenario.
- [50:21]
A
Yeah, that's kind of hot. Role play scenario smart.
- [50:23]
B
Yeah.
- [50:24]
A
Yeah. Like cream pie. But yours but it's pretending it's another guy's. Right? Yeah.
- [50:29]
B
And then along with the femdom we got into. I'm. I do enjoy chastity play.
- [50:35]
A
Okay.
- [50:35]
B
I don't have a small dick but like I finally did find that. You know, once again when you research and you find something that, that will fit better and built better that accommodates your size. Like I've worn. I think you had, you had the guy on your show and I ordered through him and you know, it was like this was no like 50, 60, you know, this was a couple hundred dollar cage but it was metal and it was built to what my. My penis is, you know, in its normal state. So I could wear it around a lot more comfortably all the time. Right.
- [51:10]
A
Because I remember somebody recently saying that the key to being comfortable in one is you don't want any room to grow. Right. Right. Isn't that true?
- [51:19]
B
Yes.
- [51:20]
A
Because pretty you don't want to be able to grow. And then it's pushing and it's hard. Like it has to be like no space. And I. I would have never thought of that. Or maybe it's the opposite.
- [51:29]
B
I forget now for me like mine when I'm soft, it. It feels like that's perfect.
- [51:35]
A
I think that's what it's supposed to do.
- [51:37]
B
When you get hard and excited. Of course it like exp. Like the girthiness expands.
- [51:43]
A
Yeah.
- [51:43]
B
A little bit and it comes around the bars but like it also kind of will pull up on your balls and they get tighter too. So there's a little bit of. Not like a paint, like it's a pleasure, a pleasurable pain.
- [51:55]
A
Yeah.
- [51:55]
B
You know, it's not like, oh, this hurts, like it's not killing you. It's like, oh, this feels good. But you can, can still, you know, do day to day life stuff in it. And I have worn that. I would take it off every day, just like for hygiene, clean, like during a shower, clean myself real good and clean the cage real good because you don't want anything funky and. But she does, she has enjoyed that.
- [52:18]
A
How long have you worn it for? How long total?
- [52:21]
B
The longest, the longest I ever wore at one time was three months. Wow. But like I said, I would take it off daily when I took a shower.
- [52:28]
A
Yeah, of course. Right, right.
- [52:29]
B
But then we've been, I guess in playing with Chassity on and off for like three years and so it's kind of fun. Like she, she does have like a necklace and she'll wear the key when we're like out of town. And I've told you, just wear that around town someday. And like I even got her like a T shirt that says it looks like an everyday T shirt. You know, like some crazy print. You buy the, you know, that girly print like you'd buy at a Cracker Barrel or some like that. And. But it says key holder.
- [53:00]
A
Yeah.
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B
And I'm like, just wear that around town, you know, or if wear one of your dresses and you know, because she's got big, big boobs. I'm like, you know, wear the bra that makes your boobs look even bigger. Wear that key, the, the key around your neck. She goes, well, what if someone sees it? I'm like, well, what if they do? Like, either one, they're just gonna be like, oh, that's different. Or two, they're gonna know what it is. Like, you know.
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A
Right.
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B
And I'm like, and if someone knows what it is, guess what? You know, and they know that you both know what it is. So they're not going to probably. You know, I've learned in life, you know, when certain people know certain things about each other and they're both quote into it or guilty of it, they're not going to help you because they know they're going to help themselves.
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A
Yeah.
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B
That's why we did things with our friends growing up. You know, I had that guild by association.
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A
No one's gonna talk because there was
- [53:50]
B
no, no Facebook or anything to Bust me when I was a kid. Yeah. So, you know, so we did have done with some chastity play and I wish she would be a little more femme dummy and more of the key holder aspect, like publicly a little more. But you know, she's not comfortable with it. And I have told. We have talks, you know, pretty regularly. Like, I would like you to do this, but I understand you. You're not comfortable.
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A
Right.
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B
Because she does have a very public job here in the city.
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A
Yeah. You got to be careful with stuff like that. I get it.
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B
Yeah. So that's what like usually if we go on a vacation somewhere, we can indulge in this a little more, which I'm sure is 99% of the time with every couple.
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A
How much do you indulge in your cross dressing at this point?
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B
So I have a pretty. For the world I work in, it is very chaotic. People have a lot of shifting schedules. But I have a set schedule, which is great. So I have. Every Thursday I have off. So when you sent the call to be like, hey, can you do it on Thursday? I'm like, perfect, you know, I can do Thursday.
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A
Right.
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B
So every Thursday I basically, she goes to work and that's when I get to do what we end up calling the maid. The maid's here to clean the apartment, do the laundry, do all stuff. It's just. And it's. She knows it's me being cross dressed and I do all of that stuff. Stuff while I'm. I clean the whole apartment, do all the laundry.
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A
And what are you wearing?
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B
Made out right now. What's that?
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A
What are you wearing? Are you wearing a maid outfit or are you just wearing whatever.
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B
No, I'm wearing, I'm wearing. I'm just cross dressed.
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A
Right.
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B
But we just call it the maid because all the cleaning gets done.
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A
Because you like to clean. That's like a submissive thing to do, correct?
- [55:26]
B
Yes. Yes, it definitely ties into being submissive. And also, even with my work, because I usually work, either I'll end up working overnight or I'll work early in the morning. So I'm generally always off in the afternoon. So I always do the cooking. So that's kind of a. I don't know. That's always played into that, like sub ness upside of me. Like, I like making good dinners for her.
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A
Yeah, that's fun. When. What do you typically like? Right now you're doing. You're the maid and you're in a corset and what else?
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B
I got a corset on. I got the, you know, the, the breastplate on. So I got the corset on and I got what do you call some fishnets on and some heels and then I just have a kind of a like mid calf length pencil skirt and then just a long sleeve top on and then just some jewelry to go with it.
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A
Do you like that whole vibe? Because that's how like your mom drives dressed for work back in the day. Like, is that like the, the kind of gear you like to wear when you're fully dressed by any chance?
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B
I can do either or like I can do classy and I, I can do slutty and I enjoy either.
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A
Oh, as long as.
- [56:40]
B
Okay, that's together. As long as it looks like together. Like I've learned to appreciate complete outfits and definitely the whole cross dressing routine. Like, I now understand why it takes a woman a while to get ready to go somewhere.
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A
That's what they all say. You have, have a new appreciation, right?
- [56:57]
B
Oh, I definitely do. Like, you know, now it's just like, you know, before it'd be like, hey, we need to leave at this time. And over these, like past, you know, years have evolved. It's been like, hey, I know we're going somewhere and you have to get ready. So you probably need to start getting ready around this time because it would be good to leave around this time. And she appreciates that a whole lot more. Are you can tell it's not like we gotta leave by now. Right? You know, so it definitely has helped in just relationship, you know, just small things like that. But you know, both every day to day relationship and sexual relationship. Yeah, it's. The cross dressing has definitely been, it's fun to learn and. But the other day she was like, this just isn't a face for you, is it? Like, no, this is because we went to a costume shop and they had like all these corsets all on a rack and these are like not cheap. Every day, like you can tell these are like some vintage corsets. I'm like, oh, these are awesome. So you just have fun looking at them.
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A
But she's totally down and cool with it. Does she like to like do you dressed up intimately with her? Sometimes still.
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B
Sometimes it doesn't happen often, but I mean it does happen from time to time.
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A
Right. But it doesn't really have to happen for you. Right. Because. Because it's not like you're not allowed to dress up. You have plenty of time to like fulfill your fetish fantasies. Right. Whenever you feel like it.
- [58:27]
B
Yes.
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A
Without getting caught or anything.
- [58:29]
B
Yeah. And she doesn't mind. Like, like, oh, my God. I. Well, I discovered years ago the, like, leggings, tight leggings, like athletic pants. Oh, my God. Those are the most comfortable things.
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A
You like them? I'm wearing them right now.
- [58:44]
B
I love. I love wearing them just around the house. I have, like, quite a few pair, and she's fine with me putting them on and wearing them around. Like, you know, that doesn't bother her a bit. So I think she might be a little jealous that I do walk better in heels than she does.
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A
Hilarious. Yeah. How often do you fully dress and do the makeup and stuff? Was it only that time that you went out?
- [59:08]
B
We've done it. We've gone out a couple times that I've done it like that. And. And on, like I said, on Thursdays when she's at work, I generally do myself all the way up as soon as she leaves and we say goodbye in the morning. That's when I get into. I go from my guy form to Joelle, and I just enjoy the day.
- [59:28]
A
Well, that's why you wound up calling in Joelle at your time, because this is your day and your time to be dressed. Yeah. So everyone else, all you crush us is, okay, we're ending the podcast and this is what I gotta say. You're gonna get free year to Patreon. If you're a member, you just have to cancel your membership or let it run out. If you bought a whole year, you know what I mean? And you will then, because you can't use the free year when you're a member. You need to. If you're doing a monthly cancel it. Wait till the end of the month. It wears out for whenever you paid for. And then you could use it and you'll get a whole free year. Or if you paid for a year, just wait till that year up and you could use that and get another free year. But for everyone. And I say this now, any cross dresser or hoser guy who's into pantyhose that wants to come on the show and tell their story, I give you a whole free year to my Patreon. If you're a crusher, you get a crush dressing tier. It's $10 a month, so it's like 120 bucks you're getting. You know, I don't pay anyone else to be on my show. Okay. But if you got a fetish, I'll. I'll give you free access, which I think is a great deal. But this is. This is why you called in because I always make jokes that no crushes are calls in because they make, you know, they're listening to my episodes. When they're fully dressed, that's when they're looking for it. You know, they make their appointment. I'm booked very far in advance because I have a lot of people calling in. And so by the time that day comes, they're not dressed anymore and they just flake and it's so irritating. So if you're a cross dresser and you want to call in, work it around your cross dressing schedule like you did. That's the reason why.
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B
Well, I didn't, I didn't have to work around it. You just scheduled it for this time and I was like, oh, perfect. Yes, Thursday.
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A
Yeah, it's like, perfect because if you
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B
would have been like, hey, can we, like, I would have told you, like, hey, my life schedule doesn't allow for this, but we could probably do it at this time.
- [61:12]
A
Yeah, yeah.
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B
We would have come to some negotiation.
- [61:14]
A
Yeah. I typically don't negotiate with people because I don't have time for it, but because I need cross dresses because they're open, always flaking. And even people with regular fetishes flake all the time. It is by far the, the one group of people that flake and nobody else really does, you know, when they book a call for me. But I'm always looking for people to call in for the Fetish Fridays series. I love your story because it's like a little mix of a lot of things that I talk about on my show. We got, you know, we got cross dressing. We have, you know, the lingerie fetish. We have face sitting. We have cream pies, we have Craigslist hookups. We have, have bisexual hookups. A little bit going on there. We got a little chastity and Fem Dom face sitting. Right, we said that already. And then we have the whole thing with your wife accepting your crushes thing. So I love it. I'm so glad you finally called it. You know, you have a great story and it's going to be up this Friday, so stay tuned.
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B
Okay.
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A
All right, thanks so much, Joelle, for calling in. And if you want to send pics, you know the deal, send them now to my Patreon. Okay, cool. Thanks for calling. You too. Bye. Bye. Okay, I just want to tell you before you go that my book, it's called Strictly Anonymous Confession, Secret Sex Lives of Total Strangers, is now available not only in paperback and ebook, but you can pre order the audiobook. It's still not going to be out till August 25, but you can pre order it. The book is basically 17 different stories taken. Taken from my show. I kind of picked one story from each category that I talk about on my show. Like there's a hot wife story, there's a cuck queen story, there's a cuck story, there's a gang bang girl story. Like I said, 17 stories. And they're all told in the third person and they're all true. I took the interview and rewrote it in the third person. And I wouldn't really call it like a total erotica book. Think like Ben how letters. It's more direct. It's not so over the top like erotica. I don't really like that kind of vibe. Right. But these are true stories. 17 of them. They're really short chapters, easy read. You could read, you know, one or two and then skip around. You could read the whole book. It's available in ebag format, paperback format, and finally, the audiobook is available coming out August 25th, but you could pre order it now. And if you buy my book in any, any format or pre order it, I will throw in a complimentary link to my Discord. My Discord does not disappoint. Okay? There's no way you'd get into my Discord any other way than getting the link from me. Okay? I give it to people who buy my book. There's tons of people in there. Everybody shares content with each other and that's what you get to do there. You could post your own pictures and videos. There's tons of channels. We have lots of contests where you could win a lot of money. Money. It's a super fun place to be. It's a total, strictly anonymous community and you will love it. I will be giving anyone who buys my book access to my Discord. It's private, like I said. All you gotta do is email me a screenshot of your purchase. Whether you did the audiobook, the ebook or the paperback. Send it to me at strictly anonymous podcast gmail.com that's strictly anonymous podcast podcast gmail.com and I will send you the link to Discord. So anyway, thanks so much for tuning in. This is the Strictly Anonymous podcast Strictly
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