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Probably the only good advice I'll ever give you is to rehide your whips. And ch. There is your host, Kathy. Hey, welcome to the Strictly Anonymous Podcast with Kathy. If you want to follow the Strictly Anonymous Podcast on Instagram or Twitter, follow me at Strict Anonymous if you want to be on the show. It's called Strict Strictly Anonymous because they change everyone's voices and names. Okay, so if you have an interesting secret naughty life that you want to talk about while remaining anonymous or not anonymous, if you're out and proud, you could email me at strictly anonymous podcast gmail.com or go to my website, strictly anonymous podcast.com and click on Be on the Show. Now listen, if you have a naughty confession you want to leave on my confessions line, you could do that 24. 7. The number is 347-420-3579. That's 347-420-3579. Call from a quiet place. I can't use ones when people call where they're driving. Some of those confessions make it onto a confessions episode. 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You could find out about all the lifestyle events and meetups and all kinds of things going on in your neighborhood, as well as if you're going to travel and you want to have a little fun, you're going to find it all on SDC.com Like I said, you get a free trial if you use my code, 37712. Or just go to the description and click on the link. That's 37712. Or just go to the description and click on the link. Okay, today I have on a really informative episode. Guys, you want to make your bit your dick a little thicker. Okay, Well, I have a guy that can do just that for you. To me, it's like a very new thing. You know, it's not something that I had ever heard until recently, is that they are now using filler into hyaluronic acid into guys dicks to make them thicker. And it does make you thicker. And it makes you thicker for a while. Okay? It's like a. It's like the real deal. It actually lasts longer in the penis than it does in a woman's face. He talks all about the procedure I have on Dr. Pash. He runs upsized clinics. They have clinics all over the country where they do the procedure. And he talks all about it. I mean, you get all the information that you want to know, including, you know, how much it costs, whether it hurts, what's the downtime, you know, how much bigger he can make it, how long it lasts, and all that kind of good stuff. You're going to want to listen up because I think it's amazing that there is a procedure out there now that can make you a little thicker. Nobody cares about length. Okay? Girls don't care so much about length, but every girl you know is gonna be happy with a little bit more girth. I mean, you don't need that much more girth. Okay? You don't. He talks about a funny guy who made it really huge. Wait till you hear that story. But, you know, if you just want to be a little bit thicker, which most girls would love, he could do that for you and explains exactly how it's done. So. And then at the end, I said, you know, you know, if you have any guy who went through the procedure and made his dick bigger, like, send him my way, because, you know, I'll have him on the show. So hopefully he's going to send me an actual patient who did this procedure so I could get this whole story from a patient's perspective. You're going to get the doctor today, and then very soon I'm going to have the patient on because he's going to send me one to give me the whole experience from the patient's perspective, which I think is always super interesting, too. So anyway, I'm going to get right to it and be right back on with Dr. Pash.
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This is the Strictly Anonymous podcast. Strictly Anonymous podcast.
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Hi, Dr. Pash. Welcome to the Strictly Anonymous podcast. How are you today?
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Good, how are you? Thanks for having me.
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No, thanks for coming on. I love what you do. I don't know how you got to do what you do. You are like a penile enhancement doctor. That's what you specialize in. Now. I don't think anyone goes to school for that first. Right. So I would love a little backstory of how you wind up there. You have clinics called upsized clinics where you do this procedure, and we're going to get totally into all that. But can I get a little background information of, like, what kind of doctor are and then how and why you got into the whole penile enhancement game or world.
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Yes, you're correct. No, no doctor does a residency in penile enhancement.
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Right there.
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I mean, you might do plastic surgery or urology or something like that. Yeah, I personally am an anesthesiologist. I finished training in 2011, I think. I think it was 2011. Did regular anesthesia for about 10, 11, 12 years, something like that. I mean, I still do regular anesthesia about two days a week.
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Oh, interesting.
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And then. Yeah, so. So a few years. Well, I guess five years ago now, I kind of Was looking for something else to get into. Just trying to get in a cosmetic world and kind of doing some different things, like not taking insurance and.
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Yeah, I know a lot of doctors. Yeah, of course.
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And. And it turned out, being a guy, I kind of didn't think that women that wanted to get their, like, lips injected or something. Like, I didn't think I was the guy for that. So I came across the penile thing. It's nothing I had heard of before or that I would have thought I would be doing at any point. Yeah, just I did some research on it and I thought this is. Sounds pretty cool. You know, it. My wife and I looked into it. One of the criteria of anything that I do and that hopefully most doctors adhere to, is it has to be real and actually effective and not a scam or whatever. And so we, you know, we were a little skeptical at first, and we looked into it, and it turns out it's totally real and effective. And so I decided to go into it. One might ask what anesthesia has to do with it. You know, most people think that anesthesiologists just put people to sleep and that's it. It's one of the things we do. But one of the. Some of the things we also do are nerve blocks, which is injections into nerve plexuses or specific nerves. Or as people know, we do epidurals, which are done with big needles and. And spinals and all kinds of central lines. And so, I mean, the point I'm trying to make is we're actually really experience using needles, right?
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Yeah.
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And probably more so experience using needles than any other doctor that exists even than a urologist or a plastic surgeon. So you might not want me to do brain surgery on you, or you certainly wouldn't want me to do breast implants, for example. But when it comes to doing things that use a needle, which this procedure does, then we're and myself are actually really good at it.
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Yeah. Interesting. And needles with nerves. Right. Needles, when you're considering nerves, too, and I'm assuming that, you know, makes people feel safe because you're going near their penis. No.
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Yeah. So when you use needles, like, as a skill in general, you always want to know where the needle is.
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Yeah.
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Is it near something like, you know, a needle in the. Just in the skin is not usually a big deal, but there's all kinds of nerves in the skin or underneath the skin and arteries and veins. And in the. In the case of the penis, things like the urethra and the corpus Cavernosum. So you do, when you use a needle, you know, you don't just stick it anywhere, you have to know where putting it. And so. And that's one of the skills of using a needle, amongst other skills.
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Let me ask you this because like this, the penis enhancement that year that you do, is it like with injections and stuff, is that the kind of penile enhancement that you're into?
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Yes, exactly.
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Right. So, and so that's what I. Because I feel like that seems like it's probably something kind of new. Like how long ago did you decide to get into this? And like when you got into it, was it something that was still very new or has this been going on longer than, than I, I think it has been going on because I just heard of it like a couple years ago.
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I've, in my anesthesia world, I've met guys from Vietnam that have like Vaseline in their penis. So.
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Oh my God.
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So it's, it's been going on for a while. The question is, when did it become legit putting stuff. They're getting snake bites in their penis. Yeah, in 2000 BC. And it made it bigger or whatever. But how, when we're injecting actual kind of medical grade filler in there? Well, this, this filler we're using didn't exist until kind of the mid-2000s, so it wasn't really possible to inject it in there before then. And you can see some studies that I've, that I've seen in Korea. Like South Korea is big on cosmetics in general. And so there's studies of that that demonstrate that doctors were doing it in South Korea around that time and like the early to mid 2000s. So that's the first time I've seen it done. And then I think commonly done or like, let's say not super obscure is probably like 20, 18, 19, 20, something like that.
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Yeah, yeah, that makes sense. Right. And that became a thing. And I feel like a lot of guys still don't even know that it's an option. Don't you think?
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Correct. Oh, totally. That one of our, if not our biggest problem is that people don't know they can get it done. Like everyone knows they can get breast implants or, or lip injections or you know, tummy tucks and that kind of stuff. But no one knows faceless, no one knows they can get their penis injected. And so one of our biggest challenges is actually advertising that this is available exactly like you. It's, it's hard to advertise, right. Because you can't put.
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Yeah, yeah.
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And you know, Instagram bans anything to do with the penis. Tick Tock does. It's funny because they don't ban anything to do with breasts. So it's kind of like a double standard. But it's. It is like a challenge advertising it.
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And where are your clinics based? Like all over the U.S. yeah, we have.
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So Upsize is a kind of. Is a doctor network. So it's a net, a network of currently 25 doctors. And there were pretty much all over the United States. My personal offices are in San Francisco and Sacramento, so that's where you would actually see me. And then there's offices in Los Angeles, Seattle, Phoenix, Dallas, Houston, Austin. I mean, I could give a big list, but it's kind of all over the place.
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So listen, I did hear about this from a guy that. I think it's called Fallow Phil. I don't know if that's the name of his. His procedure or whatever. And he was injecting, you know, fillers into the penis. Now it. And that's ex. Do you do the same kind of procedure? Do you know that a fallow fill and is that the same procedure that you offer or you do. Do you have a different kind of procedure that you perfected?
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I do know a fallow fill. I wouldn't say it's the exact same procedure. I think it. My understanding is that they also use dermal filler. So in a way, it's a. It's certainly a similar procedure. We do the procedure a little bit differently than anyone else that I know of.
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Yeah, I love that. Huh.
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We. So we came across. Now I've personally done probably 1500 procedures or so. Wow. So when you, when you do a lot of them, you kind of learn tips and tricks and nuances. And as you said at the beginning of the show, there's not a school where you go to. To learn this.
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Right.
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You know, it's not a residency program or whatever, so. So a lot of it is. There's a. There's a basic technique to doing the procedure. And I would imagine most doctors that do this procedure, you know, kind of along the same lines, but over doing many, many, many of these, I. I learned kind of like, oh, when we do it this way, it turns out better than we do it that way, or something was different with this patient. How. I wonder what that was, you know. So what ended up happening is after doing a thousand or so, we were able to kind of hone in on a specific technique that as Far as I'm aware, no one else does it exactly that way.
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Yeah, so sure. The, the way that the. So the gist of it is we're putting hyaluronic acid filler in the penis and it goes underneath the skin and it makes the penis thicker. So it's mostly to get a thicker penis.
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Yeah.
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Not to get a longer penis, which
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I will say most girls want width over length. More width over length anyway as far as I'm concerned.
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Correct. Yeah, yeah. Everyone, everyone thinks that like they just need like this two foot long thing. But it's actually girl. It's like. Actually. Yeah, it's. That's, it's kind of. That's not what you mean. I mean, I think guys, like, watch like porn or whatever.
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Yeah.
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Have this weird expectation of what they think is normal. But of course, that like, selects for a very few distinct group of people that have like, monstrous penises.
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Yeah, exactly. But, you know, you offer a guy girth, which to me is huge.
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It is a big. It is huge. And no pun intended.
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Exactly.
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And the, it does have. Cosmetically, it does give you some length in the sense that when you have like more material in your penis and when it's thick, when it's thicker, it's heavier and it, it kind of hangs lower and looks bigger, but. Oh, that's when it's erect, it's not actually longer. Right. So the, the best way to think of it is let's say you, you wanted to have a bigger arm. Okay. There's no plot. You, you, you could envision yourself injecting a bunch of, say, fat, let's say underneath the skin and, or just getting fatter and then your arm would get fatter. Right. But there's no like, plausible way you could actually make the arm longer by by putting an. Of course.
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Right, right. Yeah, that makes sense. So I like, I have a couple questions for you. Like, do you find that these guys have like, unrealistic expectations of what you can do? I mean, I'm assuming you're not. You can't make a guy like the three inches thicker, right. All around or what? How much, you know, how much bigger or thicker can you make them?
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So that's kind of two questions. Right? It's like, do you guys have unrealistic experts?
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Yeah, first, that's. That one first.
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Right. One. Now we, most of the guys that come see us have a phone consultation beforehand. So there. So that's where we see like, oh, yeah, I just want to get like 4 or 5 inches and length added onto my penis. Right. And it's like, yeah, seriously, we get that all the time. It's like, have you taken out a tape measure and, and really like, look at what that means. Exactly.
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Yeah. As a woman who's bought sex toys by accident, I've not known what they mean when they say like 3 inch girth or whatever. And I got something back that was like a baby's arm or body. You know what I mean? I'm like, what the. You know, you don't really realize what those measurements are when they're said. You Know what I mean? In a certain way.
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Yeah. People don't have what? Well, I mean, people should know what an extra 5 inches of length is. So I'm not gonna say that you shouldn't know that. But. Yes, like in circumference.
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Yeah, it's confusing.
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A little more obscure.
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Right.
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Because we don't usually measure things in circumference. And even if we did, it's like it's a volume thing, which is the formula that is. It's not linear, right?
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Yeah.
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It's not like, it's like if you add 2 inches onto circumference that your penis is actually to, you know, like a better way of looking at it is if, if you have a three inch penis and then you add three inches of circumference, it's actually more than three times than twice as big. Right, right. So. So people have, you know, that's just hard to. Because it's not something. Some math that we do all day and most of us didn't do well in geometry and stuff like that.
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Yeah, totally.
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But so what? Basically the guys that want to get an extra 5 or 6 inches in length added onto their penis don't usually come to our office because we tell them well in advance of that, that that's like not something that can be done under any reasonable circumstance. Now the next question you had is how much can we do? And certainly we've increased the circumference of the penis by two and a half inches. Now remember, that's not that circumference, not all around.
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Right, Exactly. Yeah.
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So it's like you, you can do it. I mean that's a lot, but it can be done. And of course it depends on like what you're starting size is. And just people have different anatomy and different physiology and stuff. So it's, it's different in everyone. But it is possible to get like fairly dramatic results. The question usually becomes at what point does it look unnatural? And some people don't care. They just like. It's a very analogous to getting breast implants. Like you'll get. I don't know why, but you'll get people that get like double D implants put in or something and then it's like clearly like fake. But that's what they wanted and they got it it. So there's guys that want that too in their penis and then there's guys that come in and they just say, I just want to look natural. So no one knows. But bigger. And so we can do that too. Right? It's a more reasonable increase in size.
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What other questions are typically being asked in those initial consultations that you find guys calling up for asking?
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Well, it's like the main one is, does it cause any. Like, are there any side effects or complications?
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Yeah, they're dick. And they don't want a problem.
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Right.
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Yeah.
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So typically there's not. Right. Like, any medical procedure has risks there. But risks are different procedures have different risks. As far as. As far as all things that all different procedures you can do, ranging from brain surgery to heart surgery to knee surgery to whatever, you know, this is extremely unlikely to have a problem compared to any of those things. It's injections. It's not cutting anything. It's not really like an implant, which. And, you know, those have a high risk of infection and needing removal.
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And are you going anywhere near the nerve? Right. But in. And like, if I was a guy, I'd be like, can you inject me? And I lose sensation or anything? Or like, I would assume because you're a doctor, you could explain that maybe you're not going anywhere, anywhere near any of the nerves to be able to even do that anyway. So that's not a risk. I don't know.
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Well, it's a risk, but it's not something that happens if you know what you're doing.
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Right. Okay.
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Under normal circumstances. Right. So there are obviously nerves in the penis that you need to know where they are, and then you need to not inject near them. And so we just don't inject near them. And I've never had a patient that's had permanent nerve injury to their penis.
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So this is why you don't want to just go to anyone to do this, because.
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Exactly. Right.
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Yeah.
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And it's also a reason to. To think really hard before you get other more invasive things done to increase the size of your penis. Because other things do have or potentially do have a higher risk of nerve injury or damage. Just. Just by nature of. Like, anytime you cut skin.
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Yeah.
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Which a surgery would require, you cut right through nerves.
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So what other kind of treatments. What other kinds of things are available out there for guys to make their dicks bigger?
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So there's surgical implants, which I just briefly talked about. There are. And by the way, I'll start by saying none of these can give you lens length. Really?
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Yeah. These are all for girls.
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None of them can give you erect length. So there's the implant, surgical implant, and there's different types, but essentially you're just implanting, like, a solid. You're cutting open the penis and implanting a solid material in there so it can make it thicker. There's a surgery called the suspensory ligament release, which they, a lot of doctors will advertise makes it longer, but the fine print is it makes it longer when flaccid, but not when erect.
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Oh, interesting.
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And so most guys will say, well, who cares? Right? Because, yeah, first of all, filler makes it longer when it's flaccid also.
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Right.
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But it's like, it's not useful to you, like, to have a lot. In fact, it's probably like more of a pain in the ass for it to be longer when it's placid.
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Yeah. And you're going through a surgery to get something that's like the payoff doesn't. Isn't worth the rent. You know what I mean? Isn't worth worth it. Yeah, big deal.
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Well, and it's got serious problems. Like when you have a ligament for a reason, what the ligament does is it holds your penis up, pointing up when you have an erection. So you end up after the surgery with an erection that points down, which is kind of weird.
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Oh, you're kidding.
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At least in my opinion. So I would say to me that neither of those two seem worth it to me.
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Right.
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Right. Then there's. Okay, so we got implants, ligaments. There's, of course, pills which basically don't do anything. There's pumps, which don't do anything. Pumps will, like, temporarily make you bigger for, like, you know, the time that you're using it or whatever. And then there's stretching devices. So those kind of actually work, but you have to use them. Those are for length only. And you have to use them like, really long term.
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It's very time consuming. I've had a guy on that talked about it. It's not. Most people are not going to be able to commit to what you got to do for that. You know what I mean?
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Yeah. And then still you end up with like a skinny, long penis. And then it's not like you're adding on four inches.
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Right, Right.
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Still, when all send. I'm getting like three quarters of an inch or something like that. So. Yeah, yeah, it's. But. But it's not it. But it is effective. So I'll. I'll. I'll grant that, that it's an effective way to do it if you can do it.
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Right.
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Then I think I just covered everything.
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And now the newest thing is this. Right. Is the filler, is the hyaluronic certainly.
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Yeah, it's. I. It's one of the. Well, you know, I don't want to say the newest thing because all. Well, they probably will tell you. Well, they have new technique to do the suspensory ligament surgery or the. They have a new implant that they can put in. Right. But. But it's certainly one of the newest, and in my opinion, at least, to not have surgery that in itself makes it safer.
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Yeah, for sure.
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For many different reasons.
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Yeah. As a woman, you know, I've gotten filler in my face, and I know that it just, you know, lasts for so long. Long. Now, you know, would. If, like, a guy, you know, talk to his wife. His wife would be like, what if it lasts only six months to a year? Like, does filler act the same way when you inject it into the penis? Or is it a different time period that that lasts? Or is it temporary, like filler is in a woman's face, or does it last way longer?
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It is temporary, but the. It lasts way longer than in the face. We. We tell people that it's about 18 months to 2 years on average. So. And we do see that we have guys that come back and they have filler there in three years, and we have guys that. It's rare, but that lasts like six months or something. Those guys usually have, like, genetic things that get, like, some sort of genetic thing that's giving them more enzyme or faster metabolism or something like that.
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Right. Yeah, But.
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But anything's possible. Right. But typically, 18 months to two years, which is a reasonable amount of time. It's a trade off for it being safe. Right. Like, you can actually get fillers injected that are permanent. But I've seen so many botched permanent fillers that were like, you're just. Your penis is ruined forever.
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Yeah.
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That. I think it's a huge benefit to be able to have something that, you know, is temporary and that, by the way, can be dissolved, like, so hyaluronic acid Fillers, as you probably know, can be dissolved with an enzyme if you have a problem.
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Yeah. I'm afraid of anything permanent because like you said, if it doesn't look good, you're.
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Yeah. And. And filler's a little kind of more. It's a little trickier than surgeries and. Or, like, not than all surgeries, but for example, breast implants, I think, have, like, pretty. You know, if the surgeon knows what they're doing, they have pretty uniform results. Yeah. Filler, as you know, can migrate a little bit. It can sometimes be Uneven or not look perfect? And I'm not trying to kind of. I'm not trying to dissuade people from getting penis filler because it's actually. I'm not trying to do that. What I'm trying to say is if that does happen, it can easily be fixed or dissolved. Right? Right. So, you know, just as with the lips, like, nothing's 100 perfect, and sometimes things do need to be fixed. And with hyaluronic acid filler, it's, like, zero issue at all.
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Okay. Yeah. Does it hurt? Right. That's a big one.
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There you go. Yeah.
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Does not really. It's done using local anesthesia. So I will say it hurts much less than lips or face. The face and the lips are very sensitive.
B
Oh, my God. The worst.
A
And what we do is in the, in the penis is we numb the whole penis with local anesthetic. So just as like when you go to the dentist, the anesthetic going in hurts a little bit, but once it's in, there's zero sensation for the whole procedure.
B
Yeah.
A
So you kind of have like 30 seconds of discomfort followed by an hour of feeling nothing. And most guys, actually pretty much all guys leave and they say, oh, that was way better than I thought it was going to be.
B
Yeah, that's good. That's. That's always better than it being worse. Does one. Is it one shot and it numbs the whole penis or do you have to. To do a couple in different places?
A
Yeah, it's a couple different places. You, you want to just cover the. All the skin where you might be injecting something.
B
Right.
A
But usually with anesthetic, like after you do the first little bit, it kind of numbs the adjacent areas.
B
Exactly.
A
After the first little bit, it's not that bad.
B
Right. And then once that's done, they don't feel when you're going in with the, the needles to inject the filler.
A
Filler. Correct.
B
Right. How long does the procedure. Yeah, how long does the procedure.
A
Better than dental numbing?
B
Yeah. That's amazing that they don't because like, even though they. They do that with the filler on the face, like, you still feel it. I'm sorry. It's never like you don't feel anything.
A
Well, the thing is that the. The lips are a really small area, and you're usually only getting, like, 1 milliliter of filler put in or something. So know, you can't, you know, like, to numb the penis, you need, like, probably 10 milliliters of local anesthetic. And to numb, like, if you put
B
that much in the lips, you probably
A
need a few milliliters.
B
Yeah.
A
Three milliliters or something, which is like three times the amount of filler you're actually gonna get.
B
Yeah, that makes sense. Right?
A
And when you put it in it. Yeah, it like. Well, when you put in straight local anesthesia into a small space like that, it's gonna disfigure the whole thing temporarily, but it's going to make the lips not look like there's a. You know, they're going to look all swollen.
B
Yeah. So they can't do it. Yeah.
A
So now you can't. You. You can't really do the procedure.
B
Right. So you said that the. And the pro. The procedure is about an hour. And is it like, by vials? It's like you decide, like, is it like, oh, how many vials you. You. You're going to use on somebody, depending on how big they want to be.
A
Yeah. So the cost of it's based on the amount that we use because the actual filler is expensive. Just like in the lips, they probably charge you per milliliter of filler, so it's charged the same way. So it's just. It's kind of where the budget and the size that you want intersects. That's where. That's how much we're going to use.
B
Right. And around how many. Like, you know, give a couple examples of, like, you want this much. It's this many filler, you know, that kind of a thing.
A
I would say the average person gets like 10 milliliters of filler. So substantially more than the lips, but substantially bigger than the lips. Right.
B
And 1 milliliter is 1 vial. Right. So that's like 10 vials, correct?
A
Yeah, well, ours are 1.2. So different colors come in different, but. Yes. Rough. Roughly, like 1 milliliter, I guess. Yeah. And so the average person probably gets 10. That's kind of like if you have an average size penis and you're getting an average amount of filler, you get an average amount larger, like a good amount. That's Noticeable. Right. But you're not going to be a monster after. But it is going to be like, noticeable. But there guys will get 20 if. If they just want to be huge. And guys will get like six or five, which is much more subtle. So. But that's. I would say that's a range like 6 to 20.
B
Right.
A
And then the thing is, you can come back later. Right. So that's in one visit. You can get it injected and sit on it for a few months and then say, you know what, I kind of want it bigger and then come back and get more.
B
Right. And does it, does it get swollen, like, right after and you have to wait like two weeks. Weeks to see like exactly what you got and how it, how it looks and everything. Like what is the after.
A
Yeah, in many cases.
B
Right.
A
Like not in every. Different people have different responses.
B
Of course.
A
Things.
B
Yeah.
A
But. But yes. And I definitely tell people, don't expect. Don't. Don't think that what it looks like tomorrow is what it's going to look like in two weeks for sure. Right. Because you're going to have bruising and swelling and stuff. And, and a lot of times it gets smaller a few weeks later because of swelling.
B
Yeah.
A
Or it could be because, like, the anesthesia dissolves or whatever. Right.
B
So do they.
A
Yeah, about two weeks.
B
What do you tell them to do when they leave? Like, do they have to, like, not jerk off or like, for like, you know, two weeks or whatever? Because I mean, I would assume, like, you don't want to disturb that filler for a little bit. I don't know. Know. You tell me.
A
I tell people kind of pretend that. Or treat it the same way that you would treat any other part of your body if it had, like some cuts on it or, or something like that.
B
Okay.
A
Where you, you don't want to break open any scabs or any cuts. Right. Because we're mostly worried about infection. So definitely no sex for a week because that's like uncontrolled. Right. In the sense that. That you don't know, like, if you're gonna break off a scab or something like that. Right. Because you're not really in control of.
B
Yeah.
A
All the skin on there at that point. Like masturbations. Potentially a little bit better. Because you can control it more.
B
Yeah.
A
Use. Yeah, you can control more. And then other things we're not that concerned about. Like after the. By the next day, usually any, any little needle holes that you had are like, kind of closed up and it doesn't Matter what you do.
B
And they could work out because, I mean, I know after, like, Botox and filler, like, I won't work out for a couple days. Like, is. Do you have any other things that they can't do for a couple days because of this procedure?
A
No, I don't tell people anything. One of the big differences is that no one can see your penis.
B
Exactly. Right.
A
So. Yeah.
B
Except your wife, you know, your partner. Do you. Are most of these guys doing this? As I was gonna ask, like, do you think most of these guys. And I don't know, you know what they tell you? How much they tell you if you're like, their little therapist in your office?
A
Oh, they tell me everything.
B
I could imagine. Yeah. So are they. Are most of the guys not telling their partners, or are they telling them. Do you know?
A
I. I wouldn't say most, but a shocking number of people are not telling their partner.
B
Interesting. And, like, you know, if I was, like, the partner, I'd be like, oh, wow. Like, you know, you wonder what they would say if they were, like, questioned, like, how the. Did it get so much thicker?
A
Well, I had a guy come in, one of my patients last week. He goes. He comes back because his. His wife was like, oh, your penis seems, like, a little bit smaller or something like that. And he's like. Never told her.
B
Oh, that he had it bigger put in.
A
So now he has to come back
B
to oh, my God.
A
To make it the same as it was like last time she looked at it. Whatever.
B
Oh, my God. Do you. Can you help, like, guys with micro penises? Like, or is there, like, a such a thing as, like, oh, it's just too small that you can't work on it, or there's nothing you could do? Have you turned guys down for that?
A
Yeah, I don't. That's more of micropenis. If it's a true micro penis, it's. And you. You do have to distinguish between a guy that thinks he has a micro penis.
B
I know. I know.
A
An actual micro. Like, yeah, you know, like, the. It's very common that you'll get a guy like, oh, yeah. Like, I have a condition. I was born with, like, this smallest penis ever, and it's always been. And then you look and it's like, dude, that's bigger than. Than mine is. You know, whatever.
B
Yeah. Don't you feel like guys think there's, like, smaller than they really are? Like, I did a whole Q and A about that recently, right? Yeah. Yeah. And it's poor.
A
So, yeah, it. It Is. Yeah. Or like they're. I don't know, like. Yeah. I mean, women are the same, right? They like.
B
Yeah. Body dysmorphia. Dick dysmorphia.
A
Yeah, exactly. So, but. So there. So it's. But if we're talking about actual medical micropenis where it's like, it's very small and it didn't develop properly because of like hormones and stuff like that.
B
Yeah.
A
As they were age, as they were growing up, there's not really much we can do. Like they need kind of plastic surgery and stuff like that. So I don't. True. I don't tell people I can treat that because I, I can't or. I don't know. I mean, I don't think you, You're. They're just not going to be happy with what we can do.
B
Of course, worse is there.
A
Some doctors do say that they'll treat. I mean I, I'm not going to use any names, but you can Google it. And there's. There's doctors out there that are injecting filler for micropenis. But I think it's a little misleading potentially because you're.
B
Are. You're not putting it in the tip. Right?
A
You can, but I, I don't like to.
B
Right. Is there any impact to sensation either for better or for worse, or is it zero.
A
Any change in sensation? Is that your question?
B
Yeah. Uhhuh.
A
I. There's not. There's typically not a decrease sensation. I mean, I've heard of people say for like a week, you know, while it's healing. I've decreased, but I haven't seen permanent decrease in sensation there. I think you can increase sensation because you're. You have more.
B
You could.
A
You're closer to the walls. You can feel it more. Yeah, exactly.
B
Yeah, I can see why. That's why I was thinking maybe the sensation is better, you know, not worse. Maybe it could help.
A
Yeah, exactly. Yeah.
B
Because there's a lot going on in there that maybe you're feeling now more. So what do guys come back and tell you? Like, what do you hear from guys that have had this procedure?
A
Just it. It's. Their guys are very happy with it. Everything from. I'm an only fans guy and it substantially like increased my desirability and I've been getting more work.
B
Oh yeah, I forgot about that. Homework.
A
Yeah, yeah. Like. Like I have one patient. It's kind of funny. He. He's like. He called himself a stunt, huh?
B
Yeah.
A
So I guess he was in these like, only fans where you'd never see him. It's just like only his. Yeah, he was like, he was like, you'd see the girl, I think, but only his penis. And so he was like, yeah, everyone wants to ever. I've been getting calls to be on more things now. Yeah. So there's, you know, that, that's one. Or. But obviously the most common is just that they have better sex life now or they feel better or they're more confident to. Or whatever. It's pretty much exactly what you would think.
B
Yeah.
A
And it is effective. So they hear that all the time.
B
And for the guys that are telling their partners, like, do they come back and say, oh my God, my girl, like, loved it. Like, she was super impressed. She was like, oh my God, best sex ever. Like, do they tell you anything like that? Like the feedback they got from their partners.
A
I think 50% of partners don't care.
B
Interesting.
A
And well they, they care if they're having good sex or not.
B
Of course.
A
But they don't care how big your penis is.
B
Yeah, yeah.
A
So those are two separate things.
B
Yeah.
A
So I'd say 50 don't care. Some person, let's say 20, like literally come in with the guy and it's like, let's get this size right.
B
Oh, hilarious. They're girls there with them.
A
It's kind of funny. Yeah. Or. And then 30 are like, yeah, it's, it's definitely better, but it's just not common that women. I don't think it's common that women really care about the size of your penis as long as it's like normal.
B
Yeah, they, yeah, guys don't just like, women feel weird. A lot more self conscious about their body. Like I've never heard a guy. Guy say to me, a guy friend, like, oh my God, I this really hot girl, but she had so much cellulite, I got so turned off. You know what I mean? Like, guys don't give a about cellulite, but girls do. Do you know what I mean? Like, there's a lot of things that guys think about more so that girls don't. You know what I mean? And when it comes to their dicks, that's one of the biggest things. Like, like you said, they all think that, that you wanna. Every girl wants a 9 inch. I would never want one that long. You know what I mean? Like, honestly, like, shorter is better for me. I don't want my service being pounded. I can't stand that, you know? So I feel like the same thing with like a lot of girls can't Handle. They don't want a monster, you know, but every guy wants to protect, you know, think that every girl wants that. It's not true.
A
I. I have one patient that I've had to, like. I've had to give him a reduction because he got out of control. And then it's, like, not useful. Right? Because the women, like you said, they're like, I. That, like.
B
Yeah, too much.
A
I'm not. I'm touching that.
B
I was gonna say, like. Because I know, like, with filler. I remember the first time I got filler in my face. I started to, like, kind of chase the dragon. It's hard not to, right? I learned after the first time I'm trying to chase the dragon. Like, oh, don't ever do that again. Because, you know, because you're like, oh, this looks great. Now let me go here and let me go there. And then you start to look, like, up. You know what I mean? And sometimes you could get that way. I was wondering, like, do guys a lot of times go nuts? Because now they're, like, a little bit bigger and they want to go bigger or detect. Typically, guys, like, you know, that's. You don't see that happening. Like, do they get out of control?
A
No, I see that all the time.
B
Oh, okay. Yeah, absolutely. And I think it happens to women, too. Like, you gotta check that.
A
I have this one patient, and he, like, here's an example. He. He just randomly. He decided in his mind he need to be 7 inches around, which is massive.
B
Oh, my. Are you kidding?
A
I'm not kidding. So, like, super. Super nice guy. Like, normal guy, right? But just. He had. He. That was his number that he decided. And it's like, we got him to six and a half, and it was just huge, right? And he just kept coming back for that extra 0.1. Okay, now you're at 96.6. Like, dude, I don't think we can get you any bigger. Like, you're. No. And then come back and. Yeah, okay, we got an extra 0.1.
B
Oh, my.
A
A little bit bigger. You know who's, like, fixated on. On numbers or. Like I said, this guy that I recently just had to dissolve to make it smaller. You get, like, guys, too. It's kind of funny. They're like, oh, yeah. On. It looks great. But there's this little thing right here, and you can only see it in the. Right.
B
Yeah.
A
Angle and whatever. And I'm just like, dude, trust me. Like, you're not looking at it carefully.
B
They're a little. They get A little nutty. And you can have. That can happen when you start fixating. You know what I mean? I think like, that's what happens to all those women you see walk around with bad, you know, faces. But what I always say, because a lot of people are like, I never do Botox filler because, like, it makes people look weird. It's like for every weird person you see out there. And it's probably the same with the dick thing. It's like there's, you know, 50 more that walk by you that look killer, and you just don't know it's because they look so good. You know what I mean? Most people don't take it that far and don't do it in the. In that way. Right. And it just like, really works. How many guys, you know, do most guys come back in two years? Like, and they, you know, because they dig it or like, you know, like, what's the repeat customer kind of thing? Like, how does it. Do they. I would assume, you know, if they.
A
It's high.
B
Yeah. Because I would assume once you get it a little bit bigger, like, you don't want to lose it, right?
A
Yeah. And it's high. Like, like it. People a lot of times come back sooner than two years, right. They just. They want it bigger. Right? Yeah, it's like, it's kind of like. It's kind of like tattoos.
B
Uhhuh.
A
You get one and then you're like, oh, that I need more of these. Yeah, yeah, you've got like 20. So. But usually like on most people, budget is the only thing, right. Like, everyone get. They say you get. Come and get 10ml of filler and you're quite a bit bigger. And then you think, well, it be better if I even had another half shatted on. But at a certain point you. It's expensive, right. So it. You can't get unlimited. Some guys can, but most guys have some sort of budgetary constraint.
B
Yeah. The average guy can't. Around how much. I mean, do you want to give that number or should I just not ask you?
A
Yeah, no, it's on the website. I mean, so 10 milliliters is $5,900. And so the, like, I would say the average. Like I said, the average is 10, maybe 12. So somewhere between 5,900 and 7,200.
B
Yeah.
A
Is what it costs. We're very transparent. There's no. There isn't a thing where it's like you come in and then we'll quote you and we just make up a number. It's, it's like we're giving you this amount and this is the.
B
How much it costs.
A
Yeah, there's not, you're not gonna get it for half price and we're not gonna rip you off. It's just, that's just what it costs. Which is a lot different sometimes than like, you know, if you call a plastic surgeon's office and say, how much is breast implant? They're gonna tell you to come.
B
Yeah, of course. I remember when I first aired the Fallow Phil one, I think it was, he quoted a lot higher and guys were going like mental. This is when I had a YouTube channel back in the day before they kicked me off. And the YouTubers, because it's like a common. They were like going crazy. Like 10 grand. I was like, oh my God. Like I couldn't believe like how nuts guys were about like self care prices. When like as a woman I pay, I'm like, do you know how much everybody, every girl that you walk by is paying for her? And I'm like literally telling you you could get make your dick bigger. Which is like the most mind blowing, amazing thing that's possible for this much. When girls have been all these girls you're hooking up with, with breast imp plants, you know how much money they spend, how much I spend on my filler, my Botox, my highlights are 700. You know what I mean? The fact that guys were complaining, I'm like,
A
thousand bucks a year.
B
Yeah. It's a ridiculous. And I do my highlights plus tip. It's like thousands of dollars then. But every girl that gets Botox is like $800 and like breast implants 20,000. Like, and guys are complaining like, you could literally make your dick bigger for $5,600. I think that's a great deal. You know what I mean? Like, I think it's amazing that it's available.
A
And it's funny because guys are like, I, I don't know, I don't want to like offend guys, but I'm one too, so I'll do it. Like, some guys can be dumbasses.
B
Yeah.
A
Like, yeah. It's like you'll get. I feel like most women that get a thing like breast implants or whatever are gonna go see like multiple surgeons.
B
Yeah.
A
Like get some prices and find out who's best and maybe look at what school they went to or what, you know, whatever. Right. Ask some friends. Friends, like who the good one is. Guys are like, some guys are just like, oh yeah, no, I just want the cheapest one, right? Or like crazy.
B
Oh yeah.
A
You're not, you know, I live in, you know, Manhattan beach and you're in Beverly Hills. I can't drive there. Right. It's like, dude, it's, it's 45 minute drive, right? Yeah, like when there's no traffic. So.
B
Yeah, no, I mean, listen, you know,
A
whereas like if you're a woman having you drive, you probably get on a plane and fly somewhere if it was better.
B
Yeah. But you hear of the horror stories of people that go the cheap route and they get up and I'm sorry, When, like as much as it's amazing that it's available, I mean it still is your dick. And like we all know how guys feel about it. You got to make sure you're going to someone legit. I mean, this is what you do at your clinics, I'm assuming, because you also do have like training centers that everybody that works at your clinic go through through. Goes through your training as well. So is that the case?
A
Yeah. So they're all doctors for starters.
B
Right.
A
They've done residencies and medical school and you know, ideally they've work in a field otherwise like I did that use it where we're kind of doing things that are kind of similar. So yeah, it's, it's not a huge jump like, like we don't have a psychiatric penis injections.
B
Yeah.
A
Right. So it's like our doctors are like dermatologists and plastic surgeons and anesthesiologists. So basically familiar with this and it's just a small leap to learn how to do this one new specific thing. So. Yeah, but we train them on the technique that we do and then they're able to. And every doctor that they're, you know, our doctors are busy so they're doing lots of procedures because they're part of our network and we're the, I think we're probably the biggest, if not the second biggest network of doctors doing this.
B
Oh, okay, interesting.
A
So, yeah, so they're, you know, our doctors are experienced, they've had training from us. Most of them have trained from me specifically or Dr. Friedlander who's the one of the part owners of Upsize and he's in Sacramento.
B
Huh. And upsizer in all major cities. I mean, why don't you give a shout out to UPSIZE clinics? I'll put a link in the description for anyone driving. But why don't you give out like all the information that somebody would need to find a clinic near them?
A
Yeah, yeah. So I wouldn't say every major city, but lots of major cities. There's probably one near you somewhere.
B
Right.
A
And we're expanding. Like, for example, we don't have someone in Chicago right now, but we're training someone in Chicago in the next month.
B
Right.
A
So we. By the time you're ready to go, we'll have somewhere in Chicago.
B
Right. Like, I'm in New York City. I'm sure you have them in New York City.
A
Oh, we have like a ton. And we have a guy in Long Island.
B
Yeah. Yeah. Amazing.
A
New Jersey. And then I think, I don't know how far. Like, we have upstate. Like, we have Syracuse and Albany. So new. We got New York covered really well.
B
Yeah.
A
So how do you find it? So you can go to upsize matters.com upsize matters.com if you're a doctor that or a nurse practitioner or. So basically, if you're someone that has a license that is qualified to do this procedure, you can go to eurosculpt.com u r o c U-L-P-T.com and on there you can take our training course.
B
Yeah. But for the guys listening that want to make their dick bigger. Okay. Which, you know, I'm like, if I was a guy and who doesn't.
A
Wasn't.
B
Yeah. If I was a guy and it was available, I'd go put it on my credit card. You know, I mean, come on. Like every other girl does. Like I said, with all our. That we're doing, I think it's amazing that it's available, especially because, like you said, it's not like surgery or anything like that, you know, And I'm. I'll put the link to upsize matters.com in the description for people to find. And thanks so much for calling in. In. This was like, super interesting. Like I said, I think it's great. And you know, if any guy. By the way, because I have my Sexual Health Saturday series, I always love hearing from people that, like, you know, have experience with in health, anything related. If any guy goes to one of your clinics and gets their dick bigger, I want, I want the whole. I want this whole story from the guy. And if you want to actually send me like any of your guys that have been to you to do all a whole episode about it, to talk from, like, the patient experience, I love to get both. That's why. That's how I do my sexual health series. I like to talk to the experts, and I really love to just talk to the person that has been through things. So if you Want to send me something like a patient that wants to talk about their experience? I would love that. Or if one of my listeners winds up going to you email me and I'll have them on. But either works for me because I would love to get this story of, yeah, why don't we get a guy on that did the procedure. I would love to talk to the. The patient. You know what I mean? Because like I said, I, I love to get both sides of things. I think it's important to hear from the expert. And then I think it's like super interesting to hear from the person. Right?
A
Yeah, I think it'd be great. It's. I should be able to find someone, you know, as you can imagine, a little different. Even your only listen, not every guy is like telling everyone no, but listen,
B
you know what my show's called? You. You know what my show is called? It's called Strictly Anonymous. I change people's voices. Oh, right, that person that calls in. Yeah, not your voice. But I change everyone. Every single person that's on my phone, on my show, all their voices are changed. I never ask anyone what they do for a living, where they live, any kind of like, you know what I mean? So that person can remain completely anonymous. And I change their voices and they don't sound weird, right? Like I just change a little bit of change of a pitch change changes the person. Everyone sounds like a normal person, but none of those voices are their voices. So they're strictly anonymous on my show if they want to come on or send the only fans guy and I'll promote the. Out of his only fans. I have a very big audience, so, you know, they could get. You could send someone to do a, you know, where they could talk about that. Give me that story. And we promote their only fans. You could get that guy or, you know, just get a regular person who just wants to call in. But they'll remain anonymous on my show. I'm never about outing people.
A
Yeah, perfect.
B
Okay, I'll out you. You're going to be outed. Yeah, exactly. I'm promoting upsize matters. But so get, you know, I'll send you my email or get my email from your publicist or whatever, you know, so that you could send someone my way. Because that, that'd be great. I would love to get that. I think it'd be a super interesting episode. And it's so easy. Let them know there's no video, it's all audio, and they remain anonymous. And it's, you know, I ask all the questions. And. And like I said, yes. I think sometimes those kinds of episodes will only promote the out of you even more. You know what I mean? So. And for me, what I get out of is I get an episode, you know, I put ads in it. I promote my sponsor. So, like, I'm happy you're happy. So get me that guy because I would love to have that story. This was awesome. Thanks, Joel. Thanks so much for calling in. And I look forward to talking to one of your patients.
A
Yeah, do me a favor and put the Eurosculpt link, too, if you don't mind.
B
Sure. Thanks, Joel. Thanks so much for. I mean, thanks, Dr. Pash. Thanks so much for calling.
A
No, you. You call me Joel. Like my. My wife calls me doctor and.
B
Oh, my God, that's so funny.
A
My patients call me Joel, too. It's just for. I feel like when you're doing a podcast and people don't know anything about you, it's like, yeah, you gotta be
B
a little bit more formal.
A
Yeah. Some guy. Or is he really a doctor?
B
Yeah. But after I talk to you for an hour, I could call you Joel. So thanks, Joel.
A
Yes, you could call it Joel.
B
Awesome. All right, Joel.
A
Okay, take it easy.
B
Thank you. Bye.
A
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Okay, I just want to tell you before you go that my bug book, it's called Strictly Anonymous Confession, Secret Sex Lives of Total Strangers, is now available not only in paperback and ebook, but you can pre order the audiobook. It's still not going to be out till August 25, but you can pre order it. The book is basically 17 different stories taken from my show. I kind of picked one story from each category that I talk about on my show. Like, there's a whole hot wife story. There's a cuck queen story, there's a cuck story, There's a gang bang girl story. Like I said, 17 stories, and they're all told in the third person and they're all true. I took the interview and rewrote it in the third person. And I wouldn't really call it like a total erotica book. Think like Penthouse letters. It's more direct. It's not so over the top. Like erotica. I don't really like that kind of of vibe. Right. But these are true stories. 17 of them. They're really short chapters, easy read. You could read, you know, one or two and then skip around. You could read the whole book. It's available in eback format, paperback format. And finally, the audiobook is available coming out August 25th, but you could pre order it now. And if you buy my book in any format or pre order it, I will throw in a couple complimentary link to my Discord. My Discord does not disappoint. Okay? There's no way you get into My Discord any other way than getting the link from me. Okay? I give it to people who buy my book. There's tons of people in there. Everybody shares content with each other and that's what you get to do there. You could post your own pictures and videos. There's tons of channels. We have lots of contests where you could win a lot of money. It's a super fun place to be. It's a total, total, strictly anonymous community and you will love it. I will be giving anyone who buys my book access to my Discord. It's private. Like I said, all you gotta do is email me a screenshot of your purchase. Whether you did the audiobook, the ebook or the paperback, send it to me at strictly anonymous podcast gmail.com. that's strictly anonymous podcast gmail.com and I will will send you the link to Discord. So anyway, thanks so much for tuning in. This is the Strictly Anonymous podcast.
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Strictly Anonymous podcast.
Release Date: July 25, 2026
Host: Kathy Kay
Guest: Dr. Joel Pash (Founder, Upsize Clinics)
In this candid and eye-opening episode, Kathy welcomes Dr. Joel Pash, a board-certified anesthesiologist and founder of Upsize Clinics, to unravel the growing world of non-surgical penile enhancement. They dive deep into the realities of using hyaluronic acid fillers to increase penis girth, exploring the science, safety, expectations, results, and the societal taboos that surround this procedure. The conversation is frank, informative, and sprinkled with revealing patient stories, offering a complete guide for anyone curious about “dick fillers.”
On men’s unrealistic expectations:
“Yeah, I just want to get, like, 4 or 5 inches in length added onto my penis. It’s like, have you taken out a tape measure and really looked at what that means?” (20:14, Dr. Pash)
On why thickness matters:
“Nobody cares about length… but every girl is gonna be happy with a little bit more girth.” (03:56, Kathy)
On the psychological side:
“Guys think women care more than they really do… I don’t think it’s common that women really care about the size of your penis as long as it’s, like, normal.” (47:54, Dr. Pash)
On chasing size & ‘dick dysmorphia’:
“He decided in his mind he needed to be 7 inches around, which is massive… we got him to 6.5 and it was just huge… you get, like, guys too… fixated on numbers.” (50:13, Dr. Pash)
This episode is a must-listen for anyone even remotely curious about cutting-edge male enhancement procedures, body image, and the hilariously honest reality behind men’s secret insecurities. Expect judgment-free, straight-talking information and plenty of laughs along the way.