1537 - Rob is a Hoser who Wears Pantyhose Out and About

Summary

Strictly Anonymous Confessions

Episode 1537 – Rob is a Hoser who Wears Pantyhose Out and About

Release Date: July 31, 2026
Host: Kathy Kay
Guest: Rob (“Darth_Rob_SpeedKing” on Instagram)

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Episode Overview

This Fetish Friday episode dives deep into the life and journey of Rob — a self-described “hoser,” meaning a man with a strong pantyhose fetish, who is also known for his out-and-proud presence in the hoser and kilt-wearing communities. Rob opens up to Kathy about his early experiences with hosiery, how his relationship with pantyhose evolved over the years, the pivotal role his supportive wife played, and how a medical diagnosis ultimately pushed him to live more openly. The conversation covers his coming out process to friends, family, and the public; how he became an online influencer and community leader; and the specifics of his favorite hosiery styles and brands.

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Key Discussion Points & Insights

1. Early Encounters & Formative Experiences

• First Exposure:
  • Rob’s earliest memory of wearing tights is for a school play at age 6 ([07:29]).
  • His mother also had him wear pantyhose under clothes for warmth after her divorce, due to the lack of long johns ([09:02]).
• Early Fascination:
  • Visual attraction to shiny tights on TV and in 1980s/90s exercise shows ([09:24]).
  • The “bug” for pantyhose began around age 12, when he noticed other girls in school transitioning into wearing “big girl hose” ([09:47]).
  • Secretly started wearing his mother’s pantyhose, ensuring to return them exactly as he found them ([10:48]).

“It was like putting on armor for your legs.”
– Rob ([15:10]).

2. Fetish Development & Teenage Exploration

• Visual and Tactile Elements:
  • Compelled by the look and especially the “sheen and shimmer” of hosiery.
  • Secretly wore pantyhose as a teenager, though he was open with friends about loving them on girls ([12:30]).
• Social Dynamics:
  • Encouraged girlfriends to wear pantyhose, was always complimentary, and explained that it turned him on ([12:35]).
• Self-awareness:
  • Did not identify his feelings as a “fetish” until his twenties ([22:01]).
  • Felt isolated with his interests until later joining online communities.

3. Relationship with His Wife & Openness

• Early Marriage Confessions:

  • Married young (21–22); his wife was open-minded and supportive from the start ([24:10]).
  • She initiated honest conversations and encouraged him:

    “If you like doing stuff like that, go right ahead. Just be honest and open with me.”
    – Rob’s wife ([25:01])

• “Jackpot” Partner:

  • Rob describes his wife as his “Croatian princess,” recognizing how rare and valuable acceptance is ([25:18]).

4. Medical Diagnosis & Becoming 'Out and Proud'

• Restless Leg Syndrome:
  • Developed RLS, experienced discomfort, and tried medications, which impacted his job ([27:28]).
  • Doctors recommended compression hosiery — the “perfect storm” that provided medical justification and empowered his public wearing ([28:44]).
• Transition to Open Wearing:
  • First ventured out in shorts and compression hose on Thanksgiving Day, 2010 ([33:19]).
  • Discovered that “nobody said anything” and realized most people didn’t care ([33:24]).
  • Wife’s initial concern was about their children facing ridicule, but over time she accepted his openness ([31:37], [32:05]).

5. Coming Out to Friends, Neighbors & Work

• Neighbor’s Reaction:
  • Rob’s neighbor straightforwardly asked about his hosiery. He explained both the medical and fetish aspects ([34:44]).
  • She responded nonchalantly and was accepting ([37:55]).

“Her reaction was, ‘Okay, that’s cool.’”
– Rob ([38:04])

• Strategy:
  • Emphasized honesty to take away stigma and diminish potential for rumor or shame ([36:28]-[37:37]).

“It’s all about how you carry yourself... If you respond with confidence, people accept it.”
– Rob ([40:46])

6. Community, Online Influence & Social Media

• Finding His Community:
  • Joined the forum Legwear As Unisex Fashion (LAUF), meeting Pantyhose King and other like-minded men ([32:16]).
  • Realized the power of online support, exchanged nuanced understandings of the fetish ([19:27]-[19:47]).
• Becoming a Content Creator:
  • Started posting conspicuous hosiery pictures on social media; eventually consolidated his presence on Instagram ([49:10]-[49:37]).
  • Hosted hosiery review blogs, contributed to podcasts (e.g., “A Tight Frame of Mind”), and launched OnlyFans/Patreon for exclusive content ([48:32]-[55:05]).
  • Encouraged questions and conversations about male hosiery-wearing, normalizing it through openness.

7. The Kilt Connection

• Cultural & Personal Heritage:
  • Scottish/Irish heritage inspired Rob’s kilt-wearing ([43:38]).
  • A college friend (and fellow kilt-wearer) got Rob started—he now owns 13–15 kilts, usually pairing them with hosiery ([45:05], [45:09]).
• Influencing Others:
  • Encouraged athletic/utility uses for hose; friend adopted hosiery for warmth and practical reasons ([45:43], [46:20]).
• Distinction from Cross-Dressing:
  • Emphasized that for him, kilts and hosiery have not led to further interest in feminine clothing ([47:30]).

8. Details on Hosiery Preferences

• Favorite Styles & Brands:
  • Loves shine and shimmer; prefers 40–70 denier for durability and feel ([55:21], [56:06]).
  • Favorites include Danskin, Berkshire, L’eggs, Calzedonia, and Manzi ([56:27]).
• Color Preferences:
  • Defaults to skin tones and black, but silver is a standout favorite ([55:30]).

“I prefer natural skin tones, but my favorite color to wear is silver.”
– Rob ([55:30])

• Fashion Evolution:
  • Has moved from strictly compression wear to fashion hosiery as well ([55:05]).

9. Advice & Reflections

• On Disclosure:
  • Advocates honesty, self-acceptance, and openness—especially if people are likely to find out anyway ([36:28], [37:37]).
• On Community:
  • Urges other men with similar fetishes to find solidarity and not be ashamed.

“If you don’t like how I’m dressed, oh well, tough!”
– Rob ([41:25])

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Memorable Quotes & Moments

• Rob on realizing the universality of his fetish:

  “I know I’m not the only one around here.” ([32:23])

• Rob on stigma:

  “If you give it no shame, people give you less judgment back.” — Kathy ([39:31])

• Rob’s wife’s straightforward support:

  “Look, I’ll be your camera person. You do whatever you need.” ([52:01])

• Rob’s pragmatic advice for OnlyFans hopefuls:

  “You’re not going to make a lot of money... maybe you get gas money.” ([51:43])

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Timestamps for Key Segments

| Time | Topic | |-------------|--------------------------------------------------------| | 06:02 | Rob’s introduction and public “hoser” identity | | 07:29 | First experiences: School play & warmth-wearing | | 09:47 | The “bug” hits: noticing girls in pantyhose | | 12:30 | Girlfriends’ awareness and pantyhose encouragement | | 15:10 | “Like putting on armor for your legs” | | 22:01 | Fetish realization in his 20s | | 24:41 | Wife’s openness: “If you want to put them on, do it” | | 27:28 | Restless leg syndrome diagnosis | | 33:19 | First public outing in shorts and hose | | 34:44 | Neighbor conversation: coming out (fetish and medical) | | 37:55 | Neighbor’s acceptance | | 40:46 | On confidence and disclosure | | 43:38 | The origins of Rob’s kilt-wearing | | 49:10 | Social media and community-building | | 55:05 | Preferences: Compression vs. Fashion Hosiery | | 56:06 | Favorite brands and deniers | | 58:22 | Instagram handle: Darth_Rob_SpeedKing |

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Additional Resources

• Rob’s Instagram: @darth_rob_speedking
• Rob’s Patreon: See podcast notes for details
• Podcast with Pantyhose King: “A Tight Frame of Mind”
• Podcast Patreon: For the exclusive second half of Rob’s conversation and other hoser content

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Summary Reflection

This episode offers an honest, detailed look at what it means to live openly with a pantyhose fetish in today’s world, exploring the intersections of sexuality, authenticity, fashion, and community. Rob’s journey—from secret teenage experiments to being an online educator and advocate—demonstrates that courage, self-acceptance, and supportive relationships can help dismantle stigma and build vibrant, accepting communities. Whether you’re a “hoser,” a curious outsider, or seeking encouragement for your own unique path, Rob’s candor and Kathy’s compassionate interviewing style deliver both insight and inspiration.

Transcript

[Kathy]

Welcome to the Strictly Anonymous Podcast. Strictly Anonymous Podcast. Conversations with online strangers. We place ads online.

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[Rob Speed King]

You go to Singapore or Thailand, you can't not do it. The temptation is just too much.

[Kathy]

Does your friend know that you're banging her? No, no.

[Rob Speed King]

He has no idea.

[Kathy]

And anything goes.

[Rob Speed King]

Motto of the show, let your freak flag fly.

[Kathy]

Probably the only good advice I'll ever give you is to rehide your whips and chain.

Here is your host, Kathy.

Hey, welcome to the Strictly Anonymous Podcast with Kathy. If you haven't followed the Strictly Anonymous podcast on Instagram or Twitter, follow me at Strict Anonymous if you want to be on the show. It's called Strictly Anonymous because I keep everyone anonymous. I change people's voices. You could email me from an phony email. Call me from a phony number. I just want to hear your true story. And since this is a Fetish Friday episode, I love to hear your story about your unique fetish. Whatever you're into. If you got a fetish, you could be on the show. And if you have a pantyhose fetish or a cross dressing fetish and you call in, I will give you free access to my Patreon. Now on my Patreon I have two tiers. One for cross dressers and one for hosers. Those are guys who like pantyhose. On those tiers you get every single episode early ad free, plus intro free. Also you get all the pics, anonymous pics of all my guests. Plus you get exclusive content over there. And since I've been doing this for many, many years over on Patreon, there's so much exclus of pantyhose, fetish episodes and cross dressing episodes that are only available on Patreon. The hoser tier is $8 a month. The cross dressing chair is $10 a month because crushers also get the hoser episodes as well. But if you call into my show, you're going to get a whole year free. So if you want to call into the show because you have a fetish that you want to talk about, send me an email strictly anonymous podcast gmail.com or go to my website, strictly anonymous podcast.com and click on Be on the show. I do have a book out. It's called Strictly Anonymous Confession Secret Sex Lives of Total Strangers. It's available on Amazon and ebook and audiobook and and paperback. But it is now available for audiobook to pre order. Okay. It's coming out August 25th, so it's coming out very soon. You could purchase that my book any by going into the description and clicking on the link. Now, anyone who calls into my show as well as anyone who buy my book, if you send me a screenshot of your purchase, I will give you free access to My Discord. My Discord is a super fun place. And in there there are so many different channels. You get to post whatever you want there and everyone posts and talks to each other and there's a whole community over there. It's private, it's free. But you could only get the link through me. I throw it in complimentary to anyone who calls into my show, joins my patreon or buys my book. So send me a screenshot of your picture to strictly anonymous podcast gmail.com. there is a lot of fetish and kink channels over on My Discord. Okay, today I have on Rob Speed King. He's Darth Underscore Rob Underscore Speed King on Instagram. I found him through Pantyhose King. He's definitely into hoes. And what I love about Rob is he's very out and proud. He doesn't just wear tights and pantyhose. He also wears kilts. We talk a little bit about that, but on this episode, you hear his whole journey, which is kind of interesting. It's a little different than a lot of other journeys I heard. I mean, he started wearing pantyhose when he was young. The reasons why were super interesting, but it didn't, like, turn into a fetish or become something that was very into until he was, like, a little bit older. And he talks about that. He talks about when he started secretly wearing them. He talks about how he was always open about loving them on girls. And he talks about what he would do with his girlfriends who wore them. And then he talks about when he met his wife and how open she was. And then he talks about a medical diagnosis that he got that forced him to become much more out and proud with. With wearing them himself. Okay. And that's when he started to go out and about wearing compression hose. He started being open about not only wearing them by wearing them out and about. He also started telling people this was a fetish that he has and had and being very open. He talks about how people, you know, acted when he brought it up. He also talks about how it led to him wearing kilts. Because if you go on his Instagram, he wears, like, kilts and stuff. He talks about the brands he likes. He talks about the kind of hose he likes. He talks about how he loves shine on his hoes. He talks about how he got involved in the community, the hoser community. He winds up. He does sometimes speak on Pantyhose King's podcast called A Tight Frame of Mind. That's a great podcast if you want to listen to it. He also has a patreon, which he told me about and we talk about that. Towards the end, he started an only fans. His wife is very supportive. He was also very involved in the community. Talks about that too. There's so much to. Great stuff to this episode. We finished the conversation because we were coming up to an hour and I was like, oh, my God, there's so much more we could talk about. So we wound up doing the second half for my Patreon. I do have a Patreon that has a hoser tier. You get all kinds of exclusive content. I talk to him more over there for the exclusive content if you want that. The link to my patreon is in the description. He also has a patreon. We talk about that as well. You're going to get that information also in the description. But anyway, I'm going to get right to it and be right back on with Rob Speed King.

This is the Strictly Anonymous podcast. Strictly Anonymous podcast.

Hi, Rob Speed King. Welcome to the Strictly Anonymous podcast. How are you today?

[Rob Speed King]

Doing great. Thank you for having me on.

[Kathy]

How have I not talked to you so yet? I don't know why I found you through Pantyhose King, who's been on my show forever, he's got his own podcast. He's the best. I love him. He turned me on to you. You are very. And I saw. I went through, like, your Instagram when he told me, and I'm like, oh, my God, you. You were, like, so out and proud as a hoser. Okay. Hoser slash kilt influencer, which I love. Okay. You know, not only do you wear hoes, you wear kilts, and you're out and proud about it. And I love that because, you know, the more that people sort of are out and proud, the better for everybody else. Right. It kind of helps take away the stigma. I mean, I do know that when I first started doing my show and I was, like, looking for people on Craigslist, like, that's when I found out as a woman that, like, so many guys, like, had this. This fetish for pantyhose. Right. Like, who would have known? And I feel like sometimes some people don't. Still don't even Know that this is like a real thing that exists that so many guys have. Right, the pantyhose fetish.

[Rob Speed King]

Oh, yeah, absolutely. I mean, I mean, for me, being a Gen Xer, I grew up being around. Around it all the time. Yeah, yeah. Everything from, you know, from my mom all the way to, you know, my girlfriends to, I mean, you name it. I mean, growing up through the 80s and the early 90s and everything, I mean, I saw it all the time. And if the thing is, it's like the. The first time I ever, ever wore. I mean, believe it or not, it was primarily for a school play, and I was about maybe six years old, maybe.

[Kathy]

Oh, really?

[Rob Speed King]

Yes. But the bug didn't hit me until I was about roughly 12.

[Kathy]

Okay, well, I like. That's where I like to start. I like to go all the way back. Right. And I want to get your whole life story because the pictures on your Instagram, you're with your wife. She obviously knows we're going to go through your whole sort of journey. Right. And, you know, so let's start. You know, you're six. You wear it for a play. Do you have any, like, strong memories of that experience that stand out to you? Like that Sort of. Okay, talk about that. Let's start.

[Rob Speed King]

So. So what it was. It was for. It was for. I was in first grade, and it was for. I was playing a. A royal soldier or a royal guard or something like that. And so all. All the kids, all the boys that I had that had that part, we had to wear these opaque navy blue tights. And. And. But the thing is, at that time, you really. You really don't get that imprint or whatnot. But the thing was, is that I do remember having to wear them and. And us giggling and laughing and whatever, just, you know, pointing at each other.

[Kathy]

Yeah.

[Rob Speed King]

And. And so it said. But like I said, but the bug didn't really start hitting me until, like, about 12. But going. But going forward from that time, at the time, I was living. My mom. My mom, she had, you know, gotten a divorce and everything. So it was just for a while. And. And growing up, whenever it snowed here in Virginia now, I didn't have long johns, and my mom didn't want, you know, couldn't, you know, wouldn't buy long johns or whatnot. So what she had me do, she would have me wear tights or pantyhose under my clothes in order to keep warm.

[Kathy]

You're kidding me.

[Rob Speed King]

I'm dead serious.

[Kathy]

Fascinating. That was. Listen, that was kind of smart. Of her. Right. Can't afford it. But this will keep him warm. Right. So put these on. I got them around the house. Interesting.

[Rob Speed King]

Yeah, yeah. And. And she. She wore them all the time because, I mean, it was part of. She was, you know, primarily like a. Like a secretary pretty much wherever she worked at.

[Kathy]

Yeah.

[Rob Speed King]

So that was kind of. Kind of the dress code. Yeah, you saw it on tv. But what fascinated me the most was during the summertime I would, you remember the. The exercise craze back then. You would see the. The in the early mornings and, you know, you see these buff guys with the women, you know, around them. They would have these, you know, shiny tights on. And that really struck out with me or stuck with me.

[Kathy]

Yeah.

[Rob Speed King]

But it wasn't. But it wasn't until I was in sixth grade, right around when I was about 12 years old, when I really, you know, that's. Of course, all the guys are starting to notice the girls, and that's when I really started noticing it. And I remember this one particular girl who. The way their way our desks were set up, she was facing one way I was facing right directly towards her. And she would. This is one, you know, girls are finally starting to get their big girl hoes and all that stuff. They're getting out of elementary school, no longer wearing, you know, the white tights or the opaque black tights or blue tights, whatever. And. And I just remember. Just kind of, you know, it just caught with it. And she's like looking at me going, what the hell are you staring at?

[Kathy]

Because it was like her legs, her feet. The whole thing.

[Rob Speed King]

Yeah, the whole thing she had. Had on the suntan hoser and everything. And I remember how. How it cut caught my eye and everything. And it just. I became, over the. Over the years, became more and more. More and more obsessed. And during the summertime, I remember, you know, and I've. And I've told this story a thousand times.

[Kathy]

Yeah, but not on my show. So tell it again.

[Rob Speed King]

Not on your show. Of course, yes, not on your show. But. But I remember during the summertimes, you know, when my mom would be off. Off to work and everything, and I would, Yes, I would go and steal, you know, steal her. Her hosiery and everything. Try it on and just to see. It's like, what's the big deal? What's it all like? And eventually, and I make sure mom was very particular, so I had to make sure I put it back the way it looked, almost exactly how she left it. So. And. And I Remember, I would wear them all day long. You know, it. I wouldn't, you know, having it just. And just the allure of it just drew me, drove me crazy.

[Kathy]

But you were wearing them. That's when you're wearing them secretly. Let me ask you a quick question. We'll go right back to this point. But like, when you were wearing them for warmth, were you sort of putting it together that you like the way that they felt at that time or was that just like, just not. It did not register at that point.

[Rob Speed King]

At that point, it had not registered yet. It wasn't. It wasn't. Yeah, it had not registered just yet. It wasn't until, like I said, right when I was right about 12 years old. Okay, registering.

[Kathy]

Yeah, so that was before. And it registered first in you seeing the women doing it. Right. And then you started to put them on yourself.

[Rob Speed King]

Yes.

[Kathy]

What an interesting progression.

[Rob Speed King]

Yeah, but what, but what the funny thing was, is like. And I would still do it in secret, you know, throughout, you know, my teenage years. Now, now my girlfriend, now my girlfriends, on the other hand, they know I was very secret about it because nobody, I didn't want nobody to know or, you know, all that, all that, you know, BS and everything. You know, most guys are, you know, very self conscious. Well, the one thing that my girlfriends always knew that I had a thing for, that's how they would say, oh, he has a thing for. For pantyhose.

[Kathy]

You mean, what, did word get around in your high school or something? Like, how did people know the girl,

[Rob Speed King]

the girlfriends, I am, all my female friends, they all knew that because I would, I would encourage them, I'd always compliment them. I would always, I know I would always show them a lot of respect when it came to that. And I would not, you know, treat them in, in any type of derogatory way. I would, you know, it's like. And I would always say, you know, everything matches, everything looks great. You know, I was, I was very complimentary. And when I would start dating and everything. And of course by that point, you know, you're getting active, you know, sexually active and everything. And that's one thing. I was always rubbing their legs and everything. And I told him, said, look, I really love them when you wear them. It drives me crazy, pushes my buttons. And they, they would constantly. Would wear all the time because they knew it pushed my buttons and they loved it. They, they would, like, they wouldn't. I could not keep my hands off of them, and they loved it. And. But you know what became interesting Is that, you know, later on down the road when I got to college, you know, it was, I didn't wear as often. If anything, I didn't wear at all.

[Kathy]

Yeah, but what was going on when you were secretly wearing your mom's and stuff? Like, what was going on for you then?

[Rob Speed King]

So for me, it was, it was the, the look, the feel interesting.

[Kathy]

Okay.

[Rob Speed King]

It was. For me, it was more the look, more of the perfection and trying to get that, that sheen, that shimmer that, that you would get out of it. It drove me nuts.

[Kathy]

Right.

[Rob Speed King]

And, and the, and ironic thing of it all is I had a best friend and his dad worked for legs.

[Kathy]

You're kidding.

[Rob Speed King]

He had the legs van there at, at his place and everything. And I would go play and everything, and his dad would sit there and hand me a couple boxes ago. Here, go take that to your mom.

[Kathy]

Wow.

[Rob Speed King]

True story.

[Kathy]

What would you, would you dip into that? Do you remember after the fact, I

[Rob Speed King]

didn't, I didn't really start buying my own until, But I mean, like, at

[Kathy]

that point you could have stole, but you were, you were giving them to your mom, but then you were going into taking them secretly and then putting them back. Right. Wearing for a little while.

[Rob Speed King]

Yeah, I was, I was a good boy. Don't get me wrong. I was a good boy.

[Kathy]

Right.

[Rob Speed King]

But, but, but the, the thing was, is that, you know, when, when you, when you put them on and you want that perfection and it's all about the perfection and the way everything looked, everything was in place and you felt like everything was put together. It's almost like for me, it was like putting on armor even for your

[Kathy]

legs, is what you're saying. Right. When you're talking about the perfection, it's not just for the women. Right. It's also like the perfection that it's giving to your legs as well. Correct.

[Rob Speed King]

Exactly. Exactly. And then, and then, then the feel of it and, and, and just when you look at the details and, and that's the one thing, one thing I'm talking. When I talk to other hosers, it's all about the details.

[Kathy]

Yeah.

[Rob Speed King]

And, and, and even with the curiosity of it all and, and even when dealing with the details and all, and it's like you want to be open, but, you know, you, you couldn't at that time. You really couldn't because a lot, a lot of that was not tolerated.

[Kathy]

Yeah.

[Rob Speed King]

Even, even, even my mom knew I had a thing for it because I, I, you know, because I was, I was open with her and would talk to her but she just didn't. She.

[Kathy]

What were you.

[Rob Speed King]

But she didn't. But she. But she didn't know I wore, though. That's the thing, so.

[Kathy]

Oh, okay. So you were open about liking them on women and loving them?

[Rob Speed King]

Yes.

[Kathy]

Oh, okay. But she never knew you wore, so you were open to. To that extent at that point in your life, correct?

[Rob Speed King]

That is correct.

[Kathy]

And that's an easier sell, right?

[Rob Speed King]

Yes, for sure. Much easier. It's a much easier sell.

[Kathy]

Yeah.

[Rob Speed King]

And. And. And she. And she was like, well, what is it about it? What, you know, what, what draws you to it, what you think, what. What's going on? And I. And I told her it's kind of like what I was telling you, and you know now. Was she judgmental about it? No. Yeah, she was not judgmental about it.

[Kathy]

That's great. And was it for you? Was it that it made like. Do you consider yourself. Because one of my hoses, like, he believes that sometimes, like, all hosers are kind of like leg guys. You know what I mean? And because, like, the hose makes the legs look perfect. So it just. The leg up a notch where you let. Are you like a leg guy?

[Rob Speed King]

I have always been a leg guy. I was also a boob guy as well, so.

[Kathy]

Well, you know, that's a given a lot of times. But you are like. I mean. And that is, though, what it is with the pantyhose, right? It just like elevates the legs and makes it look perfect.

[Rob Speed King]

Yes.

[Kathy]

Right.

[Rob Speed King]

It. It. It just. It made that. It made the shape that. That you were looking for, made everything that much more elegant. And, and for me, it was a big draw. It was a massive draw for me. And it's like, if. If I knew a girl that didn't wear it, I didn't care. I didn't. I didn't mess with them. It's like if the girl wore hosiery, I was there.

[Kathy]

They were all wearing. Right. So it was kind of easier at that time. Correct.

For some.

[Rob Speed King]

For some. For some. At least. At least where I. Where I live, I mean, it wasn't always the case, but with the girlfriends that I had, they wore almost all the time. The. Some of the girls that. That were at my school and everything, yes, they wore all the time. And so, yeah, it was really hard for me to concentrate sometimes.

[Kathy]

You mean, just because that's how, like, mesmerized you were by them, which is. I think it's very interesting. That's like the pull. I mean, that's, like, really powerful, correct?

[Rob Speed King]

Yes, it Was very powerful because a

[Kathy]

lot of times men might feel that way by a pair of big boobs or whatever. But like to feel that way about pantyhose, which is, is, you know, something that you would never think that someone would have that it is interesting. But anyone with the fetish understands.

[Rob Speed King]

Oh yeah, anybody who's, who's got the same fetish, they will totally understand where, where, where I'm coming from. Because it's like what, like from, from other hoses. I've heard on your show. Yes, I, I do listen to your show.

[Kathy]

Oh, okay. Why haven't you to be on my show? What the. Why were you. Why have you been holding out?

[Rob Speed King]

Because I can always consider myself so vanilla compared to most people.

[Kathy]

But this is the thing with fetish episodes, people. And I need to give this shout out to people that have fetishes on my show. Like my fetish episodes are. Don't have to be about sex for real. Like they're really more so about the fetish, the psychology behind them, the experience, what you're into, what you're not. You know, I mean, that's the. That these fetish guys that are listening want to hear. They're not tuning in to be turned on. You know what I mean? They're. They're tuning into, relate to somebody else to hear somebody else that's like them. You know what I mean? So to me, the, the brands you like, the visions you had, the feelings, like that's the stuff that's super interesting. So vanilla is fine. The fact that you have the fetish is all you need to be on my show. So that's my, that's. That's what you need to know. So keep going with your story.

[Rob Speed King]

So. So to continue on.

[Kathy]

No, but you were saying what you've heard other hosers say on my show.

[Rob Speed King]

Right. And so I've heard, you know, from what other hoses? I mean, a lot of them had a lot of the same experiences that I had.

[Kathy]

Yeah.

[Rob Speed King]

Whereas. But then there's some people who are more. As one hoser put it years ago was. It was a tactile thing. For others, it was a visual. For the others, it. It might have been a, a cross dress type deal, which there's nothing wrong with it.

[Kathy]

Yeah.

[Rob Speed King]

I say, hey, if you can do it, you know, go it, flaunt it, do what you got to do. Yeah. And so, but so, I mean, there's so many different aspects to it. There's so many different nuance. My God, the nuance for, for some, it's cr. It's crazy how many different nuances you can look at one specific thing and how it could either turn you on, turn you off, or if you look for that one, like one little, Little iota of something. And it just, if. If it's not there, it just totally, you know, it's like, game off.

[Kathy]

Yeah, well, that's why I could have a million hosers on my show. I've been doing that, my show for 12 years. I have 1500 episodes. I have tons of hosers on my show as well as on my Patreon. And I'm always hearing a new story, and people are always like, oh, my God, I love this episode because of this and this and that. And it was like, different than the other one. You know what I mean? Because each person is so specific. The fact that we're gonna eventually get to like, you putting on kilts is super interesting. Right. And totally different than anyone else. Also. What I find interesting already about your story is like, sort of the trajectory of how, like, you did wear them a bunch of times when you were younger, but didn't really click yet. Like, what did it click with you wearing them? Was it like when you were, like, high, like when you were like 12, that you said that's when you start to be like, okay, now I get it. You, like. It felt like armor, you said, right?

[Rob Speed King]

Yeah, it was like armor. It's if. If the curiosity. It's like, it. When the curiosity really hit. Hit me, and I was like, okay, what? In my mind, I was like, okay, what's the deal? What. What's, you know, why. Why are they wearing this? Why, you know, okay, what's. What's so great about it? So I had to try it myself.

[Kathy]

Right, and then you learned you liked it too.

[Rob Speed King]

I was on. I was hooked. I mean, day one.

[Kathy]

Interesting. But it's interesting that you didn't get hooked when you were wearing them for the cold and all that stuff. Right? It's so that, to me, is what's interesting about your story. I haven't heard that happy for.

[Rob Speed King]

But at that, at that time, you know, when you're. When you're that. That young really didn't really dawn on me, per se, because you're not thinking. And. And I'm gonna. I'm gonna be. I'm gonna be honest with you on this. I didn't learn that. That. That what I had was a quote unquote fetish until, like, I was in my 20s.

[Kathy]

Yeah, right. Of course.

[Rob Speed King]

If that. Tell. If that tells you anything. Yeah, I mean, I, I know. Don't. It. It just really did not dawn on me. It didn't really register with me because as a kid, you're more focused on getting outside and playing in the snow, of course, than, than what you're wearing because like, well, you know, you, you're wearing, yeah, you're wearing this, but you're wearing also all those, you know, bulky pants and, and everything else. And you, you just, you're not focused on, on what you're wearing. You focused on just getting out there and playing with your buddies.

[Kathy]

Yeah, but some hosers were though. That's the whole difference. But that's what's interesting about you, that you didn't, you didn't come together, but you did have it in you because you always like to see the women in it, right? And that's the stuff, right? That's the, that's the like. Listen, not every hoser wears themselves, but every hoser likes hose on women, right? That's something you all have in common. If you have the fetish, right? There's no guy out there wearing only on himself and he's not obsessed with girls that wear them, you know, so you had that right from the get go. And so like. Oh, yeah, point like when you're like, like in your teenage years and in high school, you're wearing secretly, right? And let, but also at the same time letting girls know, including your mother, know that you do like women to be wearing them.

[Rob Speed King]

Yes, I would only secretly wear it home, but I didn't wear it. Wear it to school because, because you had to dress out and all that stuff for, for a PE and all that. So. Yeah, but it would only be like, like whenever, whenever, you know, my mom was off, off to, to work. I was at home by myself. That's the only time I would really do it. And then when you, when you, you know, go further on from when I went off to college at that point, that's when I, I actually had stopped wearing all together. Yeah, but I was still, but I was still pursuing the girls who wore it. Okay, but it wasn't, it wasn't until way later. This is going back, going back to my early 20s and everything. I mean, I would secretly wear on and off. My wife knew I had a pantyhose fetish. If anything, she was the one who's like, oh, you got a fetish then? Okay.

[Kathy]

Oh, she's the one that let you know that word and let you know what you had. Interesting. So you got married early you got married to your wife early on?

[Rob Speed King]

Yes, I was. Oh gosh, I was about what, 22? 21. 22.

[Kathy]

Okay, so I got married. And so at that point she didn't know that you were into wearing, Correct? Because you weren't really wearing at that point, right?

[Rob Speed King]

Not. No, not full time. I was just off and one at the time.

[Kathy]

Did she know?

[Rob Speed King]

Yes, she.

[Kathy]

Oh, so, so walk me through that, that conversation. You meet this woman, you know, you're young, you don't even know that you have a fetish, but you know what you're kind of into. Like, how do you bring it up to her?

[Rob Speed King]

Come to find out, she was a very open minded woman. She. It. And there was, there was a one, there was one moment where she had had these stockings and she's like, if you want to put them on, put them on, go right ahead. And she's, you know, if you, if you like doing stuff like that, go right ahead.

[Kathy]

Yeah.

[Rob Speed King]

And. But she was like, but don't, whatever you do, you know, be honest and open with me.

[Kathy]

So she was the one that brought it up. She was more open than you. She brought it up first. Crazy.

[Rob Speed King]

Yes.

[Kathy]

You're like, I hit the jackpot. No wonder why you put a ring on it. I mean, that was like the perfect girl to marry.

[Rob Speed King]

I mean, she, she, I put her on a pedestal. She is the, the mo. The most wonderful.

[Kathy]

As you should.

[Rob Speed King]

She is my, she is my, she's my Croatian princess. She is my everything, my world. I love her dearly and she is the most amazing person you'll ever meet, you know, for not just being a wife, but a business owner and, and, and, and also. And a mother and just. She is a wonderful, wonderful person I can always confide in and I trust her immensely. She trusts me immensely. And it's like I have no reasons to, to, you know, do anything else but be with her, if you, if you get what I mean.

[Kathy]

Yeah, but you're so lucky to have all of that and you're able to be fully yourself because there's plenty of guys that call into my show that have all of that and might feel that same same way, but yet their wife doesn't know that they have this thing, you know what I mean? And it's amazing that you're, you got the full package, you know, and that's what's incredible is that she was the one that was like, you could put them on and so did you event. Is that when you started to wear again when you were with her or you still weren't that into it.

[Rob Speed King]

So what, what got me into the full time and really being open about it, it really came down to a medical issue I had. And so I was, you know, having a hard time sleeping. I was, you know, kicking at night. I was, I was having. Or we would be sitting on the sofa. Now I'm, I am a recovering heavy metal drummer, so just understand that.

[Kathy]

Oh, I love heavy metal. My son now loves heavy metal too.

[Rob Speed King]

So, I mean, I was used to, you know, having both my feet, you know, going up and down, up and down all the time. And, and I always thought it was like more like a nervous tick and everything, but when I was noticing I was just, you know, sitting down, watching TV and, and I swear I would feel these little zings in my knees or in my upper leg, upper calves and stuff like that and just feel like your, your skin was crawling or, or like, or somebody was trying to stab me with a needle, whatever. And I felt like I wanted to like completely twist my, my legs off.

[Kathy]

Yeah.

[Rob Speed King]

And that's when I found out I was diagnosed with, with restless leg syndrome.

[Kathy]

Oh, interesting. That's what that was. That's what it, that's how it presents itself.

[Rob Speed King]

That's how it presented itself because it's, it presents itself in several different ways and it, it's more prevalent in women than it is in men, but it does happen to men.

[Kathy]

Huh.

[Rob Speed King]

And so for me, it was, it was like I was having such a hard time just sitting still. I was constantly having to shake my leg for, or get up and walk around and move around for relief.

[Kathy]

Yeah.

[Rob Speed King]

And, and so, and that's, and I tried, and I tried doing, you know, the medication and everything. Now understand I'm also, I also work for, for a major telecom and so it's a semi dangerous job and the medication just. I tried it for two weeks. I'm like, no, this is affecting my job too much.

[Kathy]

Right.

[Rob Speed King]

I got to have my wits about me. I mean, I drive a very big truck and I don't want to have something happen. And you have, God forbid I could be 20ft up in the air or 20, 20ft down down below. Yeah, you got to have your wits about you. So I went to two, to two different doctors and everything and they both basically recommended in doing compression therapy.

[Kathy]

Okay.

[Rob Speed King]

As they play, it's like, do you have an open mind or would you be, would you be interested in compression therapy? Would you be interested in doing this? And it was almost like a perfect storm. Really.

[Kathy]

Yeah.

[Rob Speed King]

And I was like, okay, well you know what, I'll give it a try. And I tried, I tried doing the, the, the, like the, the, the, the knee high stockings and everything. I hated it. And I went ahead and went with the, the full deal. Now they said that what I had wasn't, wasn't, wasn't as bad. But they, they recommended what levels I need to wear, where I can get it, get measured, all that, all that bs and, but they said all you had to worry about is wearing either, you know, medium to full support. You don't need something too terribly, you know, restrictive unless you're really having a bad day or something like that.

[Kathy]

Yeah.

[Rob Speed King]

And so that, that came in into play and I remember coming home, I had just got home from the, from the store and I had picked up at the time was that I had, they had the legs act of support at the time. And I'm coming home and I'm putting them on. My wife had just come over where she opens up the door, she's like, what are you doing? Is there something I need to know? I'm like, no, no, no, hold on, hold on. And so I explained it to her. She was like, oh, okay. But her biggest concern was more or less our kids.

[Kathy]

So when you say that she was freaked out because she was the one that told you to wear, and I'm assuming you're wearing in front of her, but she was like what, why she freaked out is because you were like wearing in public at this point. Is that what was going down that, that was so shocking?

[Rob Speed King]

Right?

[Kathy]

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[Rob Speed King]

It was, it was shocking because she was worried about the kids because they were in elementary school. And of course, kids can be very cruel.

[Kathy]

Yeah, of course. No, I get it, but I'm just saying, were you wearing before? I'm assuming you were wearing in front of her.

[Rob Speed King]

It was, it was very, it was very often on then. It wasn't a full time.

[Kathy]

Okay, okay.

[Rob Speed King]

And once I, once I explained it to her and everything and she was like, okay, no problem now. And I'd still hid it for a while from public.

[Kathy]

Right.

[Rob Speed King]

It wasn't until I finally, I had joined at the time a forum called legware Unisex Fashion or Lau Lauf. Okay, we've heard of it.

[Kathy]

No, I had never heard of it.

[Rob Speed King]

That's where, that's actually where I met Pantyhose King for the, for the first time.

[Kathy]

Okay.

[Rob Speed King]

Yeah, so I met him and a bunch of other hosers and kind of found out there was many other guys that were just the same as I was because I kind of felt like an island in the stream here. He's just like, God, you know, am I. I know I'm not the only one around here. And I learned from, from that form and talking to other people, it's like, yeah, you can be open about it, you know, just. You don't have to be. You just gotta act normal, dress normal. Most people are not going to care, you know, if you just have your wits about yourself.

[Kathy]

Right.

[Rob Speed King]

And so from that point, that's when I had. Had started wearing a little openly. And I remember, remember it was Thanksgiving Day 2010. I go out to the store to go get some stuff for some plates and, and glasses for. From the dollar store, of all places, because we had company coming over and I'm wearing shorts. That was my first time going out

[Kathy]

in public with shorts and hose. Like compression, but they're compression hose. Correct.

[Rob Speed King]

And nobody said anything. Nobody even noticed.

[Kathy]

Yeah. Interesting.

[Rob Speed King]

And I come home, she's like, what do you do? Why are you going out like that? You should have told me you were doing. I'm like, whoa, whoa, whoa, whoa, hold. Nobody said anything. Nobody knew anything.

[Kathy]

Yeah.

[Rob Speed King]

And so I proved. Proved it to her and the kids by going out to the mall. And we went out to the mall. I was in. I think I was wearing, like, nude. Nude legs at the time. Nobody said anything. The only thing that looked odd was the fact I'm wearing a jacket and shorts in. In the winter time.

[Kathy]

Right.

[Rob Speed King]

And from that point on, it just became kind of old hat. And then we started. I started wearing other colors, like, lay off black, you know, jet black. And at that time, I would still would put on pants because I didn't. My neighbors really didn't know anything at that time. And one day I had on jet black hosiery, and we were going to go next door, and I said, all right, well, I'll go. I'll go change. She goes, oh, no, no, no, Keep your shorts on. Just. Let's go on over.

[Kathy]

Sure. Okay. Paint the picture. You're wearing shorts. Now. Are these still, like, this whole time that you're wearing? Is it always compression hose because of your problem? Okay, but they're black. They're black. And you're wearing shorts with black leggings, like. Or tights.

[Rob Speed King]

Correct, Right.

[Kathy]

Okay.

[Rob Speed King]

Correct.

[Kathy]

Okay, go on.

[Rob Speed King]

So we go. So we go over next door now. Now, my neighbor, I, God bless her, love her, to love her dearly. And we're sitting there, we're talking, and. And I kid you not, about 30 minutes into it, she. She looks over, she goes, right. I gotta ask you, so what's. What's going on with the. With the Hoosier here? I got. I gotta ask.

[Kathy]

Oh, I give her credit for asking. Why not? Right? I don't mind that.

[Rob Speed King]

She would. God bless her. I love her dearly. I mean, she. She. She's one of my. One of the. My. My biggest proponents. When she understood what was going on.

[Kathy]

Yeah, she's just gonna talk about the elephant in the room. No judgment, just curiosity, Right? Why not?

[Rob Speed King]

Correct.

[Kathy]

Yeah.

[Rob Speed King]

Yeah, It's. It. And I could tell you funny story after funny story after funny story. And. But. But the biggest. But the biggest thing for me was when I came out to my co workers, right?

[Kathy]

But wait, let's stay at that story. I love all these stories. Let's stay at that story that she says to you, you know, when you're over the house with these tights on, like, what the is with this? Like, what's going on and what do you say and how does she react?

[Rob Speed King]

And so when I, When I reacted and I didn't react, I just acted nonchalantly. I was like, yeah. I said, I'm wearing. Yes, I'm wearing pantyhose. Yes, I'm wearing. These are. These are compression hosiery. As. And I explained to her what was going on. She was like, like, oh, okay. Well, all right. Well, that kind of makes sense. And she goes, does it help? I said, yeah, absolutely, they help. They're a godsend. I can sleep better at night. I'm. I'm not coming home with sore legs all the time. I don't have. I can sit down in peace and not constantly have my leg shaking like crazy.

[Kathy]

Yeah.

[Rob Speed King]

And I said, but also. But I told her, I said, also, I do have a fetish for pantyhose as well. So I said, why do you think

[Kathy]

you were so bold to do that at that point?

[Rob Speed King]

Because I want. I wanted to be open with people to know that it's not just one thing. There is. There is other. Other underlying issues. And I have people that I know would use that information as blackmail.

[Kathy]

So you wanted to say, like, you want to get ahead of it. You're going to be the one to tell people what it is instead of them sort of speculating. Is that what you're saying?

[Rob Speed King]

That's correct. And same thing with. With my social media and the way I did my social media. I just, you know, the very. The very first picture I ever posted of me and pantyhose is me in front of my Christmas tree with. With gifts, and I'm wearing, you know, wearing shorts. I'm wearing like these. These, like, basketball shorts or something like that. And, and you. And if you look closely, you can tell plain as day that I'm wearing. So I would constantly would post pictures of me just doing mundane things with my family and with my kids and, and doing, you know, stuff that I would do, like with my band, if I'm playing with my bands or whatnot. And so if anybody had said anything, it's like, well, it's no big secret. You can check my social media. It's already out there.

[Kathy]

Yeah.

[Rob Speed King]

So, like, whatever.

[Kathy]

Yeah, but we didn't start there. We're still at the place where you just started to open up about it. You're with your neighbor and you say, but it's also. It's not just that I wear because of this restless leg syndrome. I also have a fetish for patios. And what is she. How Is what's her reaction? Like?

[Rob Speed King]

She was, believe it or not, it was almost a non reaction. She was just like, okay, well that's, that's cool. Yeah, that was. Her reaction was okay, that's cool.

[Kathy]

Yeah, there you go.

[Rob Speed King]

It's like she's like, did they help out? It's like, yeah, they help out there at Godson. And she was like, okay, well that's all that matters. She goes, she goes, I've known you long enough. I mean, you're cool, you're. You're a good guy. You. You always, always helping us out when we need help or, or you there when, you know, whatever. I mean, they knew the content of my character. So they unders. They understood that. Look, I'm being open with you about it. So. And they respected it. And that's what, what mattered is the fact that they respected it.

[Kathy]

Yeah. And don't you think that that like, that you sort of putting it out there yourself and telling them while you're sitting there that that demand, like that sort of demands the respect or like that gets you the respect more so than if like everyone was like whispering about it. You know what I mean? Like, you were smart to get ahead of it and be honest and lead with it yourself. You know what I mean? Because then I feel like you give it like no shame if you're. And that's what I always feel like you, you get back whatever you give, right? If you feel really shameful about it and you're hiding, you're going to sit across from people that might feel that way as well. But when you're okay with it and clear with it and you're ready to be straight up, up, this is who I am. This is what I am. And you respect yourself and what you're into and you're not hiding it, people are gonna see it in a different way, right? They're not going to judge you. They're gonna just you less. I mean, there might still be that one or two crazy people, but most likely you're gonna get people like exactly like react the way you said that they did, where they were fine with it.

[Rob Speed King]

Yeah, she was. She was completely fine with it. And I mean, and now and, and not only that, but also she had like a get together like not even like the next weekend and she had all these people over her house. She had us over for the cookout and I'm out there with the guys with her husband and, and I guess her father in law and everything and just sitting there on the front porch. And, and wearing black pantyhose again and shorts. And I'm just talking with them and talking with them and not once did they say anything to me. Yeah, but. Yeah, but yet. But the daughter in law, you know, comes up, she's like whispering to me in front of these three, four other guys. She goes, are you wearing peony hose? I'm like, yes, I am. I said, as you can see. And I'm sitting there, I pull it and pop it right there.

[Kathy]

Yeah, there you go. Yeah.

[Rob Speed King]

She was like, oh, oh, okay. Yeah.

[Kathy]

You took the same right out of her. Yeah. Because you took away the thing. She was like ready. And it really does go to show that the way you reacted back to that, that really.

[Rob Speed King]

Yes.

[Kathy]

Made all the difference. Right. If you got embarrassed and taken aback, you know what I mean? She would have kind of won and it would have been a totally different story, you know. But you were like, yeah. And so where does she go with that? There's no place else to go.

[Rob Speed King]

It's all, it's all about how you carry yourself. It's about the, it's about how you carry yourself with confidence. You. And if somebody asks you or say something to you. Yeah. You respond back with confidence. Or sometimes in me I have, I have very, I have self deprecating humor. So a lot of times they're like, hey, are you wearing hoj? And I'm like, where, where?

[Kathy]

What are you talking about?

[Rob Speed King]

Oh, you mean my socks? Okay, gotcha.

[Kathy]

Yeah, yeah. But what, but you never had any shame for your like you were always like very clear about it, like no shame or like was it just at that point in your life you got to that place. Like had you had shame earlier and then like what do you think changed in you that you were able to be so open and honest about?

[Rob Speed King]

Wasn't. It wasn't necessarily a shame thing it at that. When I was younger it was more or less. It was more of a curiosity thing that led to a more sexual thing when it came to my, to my girlfriends. But then as it became where it was at, my everyday dress was more like this is my everyday dress. If you don't like how I'm dressed. Oh well, tough.

[Kathy]

Plus you had no choice because you needed to wear them for the, the restless leg syndrome. So you were like in this like, like interesting place. It kind of. Right. Like, I mean it kind of forced you into being open and it was like the best thing that could have happened to you because you get to wear and you kind of have a reason for Wearing, you know what I mean? But you also can be also honest about your fetish so you don't have to feel bad about it at the same time.

[Rob Speed King]

Yes, that is correct. And not only that, and, and there was, there was times where there was. There's one story we have a, a kind of a local legend here in, here in Richmond. And he, he lives a little out. He lives outside of Richmond and him and his wife were known to. He, he's a known cross dresser. And I mean he, and honestly I, he had some damn good legs, I'll give him that. Even his wife had good, good looking legs.

[Kathy]

Yeah.

[Rob Speed King]

But they were known for, you know, dressing up very outlandishly. And they would have these bells all over and they would, you know, kind of march up and down the, the mall or the local Walmart. And I remember with being with my, my kids and my, when my kids were still young in elementary school and they saw these two walking and they're like, like dad, they all. Are they wearing the same thing you do? I was like, yeah, they, they are. Well, how come everybody's laughing at them but not you? I said, well, because I'm not dressed like them. Them. But they had the confidence to dress like that.

[Kathy]

Right.

[Rob Speed King]

So a lot of people don't understand why they dress like that. I get why they dress like that.

[Kathy]

Right.

[Rob Speed King]

And then, and, and, and my son was like, oh, okay, well why they dress like that? I said, because he wants to and his wife wants to, wants to support him.

[Kathy]

Exactly.

[Rob Speed King]

Oh, okay.

[Kathy]

Where do your kilts come into play?

[Rob Speed King]

So the kilts came into play. Oh my gosh. I have, I gotta thank my friend Steve for this one. So I have a friend, an old college buddy that I have. I've known Kylie since 92 when we first met at Old Dominion University. He has always worn kilts. And there was a, there's a Celtic festival that would. And Highland games that would come to Richmond every year. And for a while it went away for about 20 years. And I do have Scottish heritage on my mom's side. I had, you know, Scots Irish on my father's side. You know, the Stevenson name is. You know, the Stevenson's were this, the steps of the McTavish family back then. And then it all rolled down to, to me and, and my dad and all that stuff. Well, nobody in my family really wore kilts whatsoever. And I wanted to pursue my heritage, so to say. And so my buddy, he was like, well, you know, you can always, you know, you know, get yourself a kilt. Or something like that. But I was like, well, I don't have 500 to spend or whatnot. Yeah, it was, oh, no. And he showed me where I could find some online and everything. And so I started kind of going crazy because when you buy one killed, you kind of want to buy more and it's more like a drug. So here it is, two, three years later. I end up, you know, like, like 13, 15 of them.

[Kathy]

Interesting. And you wear them all the time, everywhere with your hose?

[Rob Speed King]

Yes, I wear it all the time. I generally try to be very traditional looking where. So I would tend to stay. Stay with the skin tone hosiery. But I do have utility kilts that I like to wear different colors with. Like, I have a black utility kilt. I like wearing my black hosiery with. My friend, on the other hand, who got me into kilts, he started trying hosiery himself, especially during the winter time.

[Kathy]

How did. I mean, did he bring it up because he saw you wearing or did he wind up, oh, okay, so he saw you wearing. And then did he say, oh, by the way, I wear too? Like, what. How did that conversation go?

[Rob Speed King]

So he, he wanted to. He likes to go out and jog. He likes to exercise outside. He's a very outside DIY kind of guy.

[Kathy]

Yeah.

[Rob Speed King]

So he. So he was like, I would like to be able to keep myself warm without having a lot of bulk, like having to wear a bulky legging or anything like that. And so I said, well, have you tried wearing, you know, try wearing pantyhose or try wearing some tights or something like that. That would help keep your legs warm. And so he tried it and.

[Kathy]

Oh, so he had never been a hoser before.

[Rob Speed King]

Right.

[Kathy]

Interesting. You turned him on.

[Rob Speed King]

Yes. And so he even wore it with his kilts. And. And he also has a, A skirt fetish himself, so he would wear them with his skirts as well.

[Kathy]

Wow. He has a skirt fetish too. How did that come up?

[Rob Speed King]

He, we. We had always talk about different guy things and everything. Like I said, we've remained friends for over 30 years. And so he, he got to telling me about it, and so I kind of confided in him. You know, when it came to. He knew I was open about my hosiery. He knew. Yeah, I was, you know, unabashed about it.

[Kathy]

Yeah.

[Rob Speed King]

So he, he was. Well, he goes, well, I kind of have a, A skirt thing. I'm like, okay, great, that, that's fine, because, you know, because he goes, you know, I wear my kilts. I said, yeah, well, he goes, I kind of also get skirts and stuff, but he get both. The ones that he gets are. They're not frilly or anything like that. They're more like. They look almost like. Like a kilt, but without all the frills in the back.

[Kathy]

Right.

[Rob Speed King]

More business like.

[Kathy]

Yeah. Have you ever. Has the kilt ever progressed for you into anything other kind of clothing? Feminine clothes?

[Rob Speed King]

No.

[Kathy]

Okay. Because it really a feminine piece of clothing anyway. But it never like for him, he did quilted kilts, but he also liked dressing up. He was probably a hoser, but just didn't pretended that this was something new, that you were turning him on. Don't you think he was maybe doing it before? I mean, come on.

[Rob Speed King]

Maybe. Possibly. I can't speak for him.

[Kathy]

So that's typically the gateway drug. If someone's into cross dressing, pantyhose comes first. Typically. But you know what? Have them call into my show. I love any kind of story that's different if it was separate. But it's just interesting that. But you know, the truth is there's so many guys that are into pantyhose that you'd never know. You know, it's so. It must be so great that you are so out and proud. Like, have you had any other guys come up to you and admit that they're into wearing pantyhose too, because they see you wearing.

[Rob Speed King]

I have had since as. As pantyhose king would say, I'm an og.

[Kathy]

Yeah.

[Rob Speed King]

Because he's like. Because he was like he. You've been wearing. Because I would be on his. On. On our show Tights Frame of mind.

[Kathy]

Yeah. You co host with him too, sometimes.

Right.

I'll put a link to your guys podcast in the description for everybody. Okay. Yeah.

[Rob Speed King]

Yes, I. I was. I was one of his co hosts for. For. For quite a while until my business went crazy and it's like I barely have time to do anything nowadays.

[Kathy]

Right.

[Rob Speed King]

And so I, I have had so many people online message me because of

[Kathy]

the Instagram, is what you're saying? Because you came out and became like a wearing on Instagram pictures, right?

[Rob Speed King]

Oh, before that. I mean, I. I had put them out on Facebook years ago. I also was on several other different platforms and then I even had my own website where I did. Where I did hosiery reviews.

[Kathy]

Oh my God. Well, see, these are the things you need to tell me.

[Rob Speed King]

Well, the thing was, is that the. The hosiery. All right, so that website finally, that blog got shut down because it. I was having to Use several different platforms to do. For one posting.

[Kathy]

Yeah.

[Rob Speed King]

Like, if I did video, If I did videos or anything like that. And I wanted everything all in one spot.

[Kathy]

Yeah.

[Rob Speed King]

I didn't want to have to be on YouTube. I didn't want to have to be Facebook. I didn't want to have to be this, this. So I. I decided to go completely on Instagram.

[Kathy]

Right.

[Rob Speed King]

Okay. So. And that's. That's primarily where things really exploded from that point on.

[Kathy]

Right. And that's how you became, like an influencer, you said.

[Rob Speed King]

Correct. That's correct. But we. But, God, I'm trying to think of. It was. Oh, I can't remember what the name of the website. It was. It was where you shared your pictures. It wasn't. It was prior to Instagram. I cannot remember the name to save my life. But the fact of the matter is, that's where I started posting a lot of my pictures there until I wanted to kind of consolidate everything and do everything just on Instagram alone. And from there. Then people started following me from. From that other site, and they were like, finding me on there and like, oh, yeah, yeah, yeah, I know him. Oh, yeah, I know. Speaking. Oh, man. Oh, yeah, he's got. Yeah, you. Oh, if you follow him, he's got that. And he's got that. He's got that. Well, fast forward. Not only did I do reviews, but then, of course, tpk, you know, goes, hey, you know, have you ever thought about doing a Patreon? Have you ever thought about doing, you know, stuff that was a little more on the, you know, risque side? I said, yeah, I've been wanting to do risque. And at one point, I even, you know, got into doing only fans at one. At one point, I end up shutting that down and then going to Patreon instead, because I just felt like only fans had too much of a bad connotation.

[Kathy]

Yeah. Yeah. And, well, for what you're doing, probably only Patreon was fine. Right. You're not doing anything that explicit that you need. Need only fans. Right, Correct.

[Rob Speed King]

I mean, I can still do. I mean, I still do explicit. Don't get me wrong.

[Kathy]

Okay.

[Rob Speed King]

And I do have a small. Yep. And I do have a small following on there. And. And that actually stemmed from. From a point when I was, like, so dead broke that I couldn't, you know, I couldn't even afford to pay attention, honestly.

[Kathy]

Right, right. So you needed the cash.

[Rob Speed King]

And my. And my wife. My wife and I had had this. And it was a particularly bad Christmas. We had we, we were. All of our accounts were overdrawn. We were. Didn't know when, where we're going to be able to, you know, I'm still, still working and everything, mind you, but when you get paid and everything's gone and because you've been in the negative for that, you know. You know, desperation calls for different things.

[Kathy]

Yeah.

[Rob Speed King]

And. And I remember at one point my wife, you know, had had a conversation at one point, she was like, if I ever have to sell my body a blah, blah, blah to make money, you know, she goes, I would have it. I was like, like, maybe you might not have to sell your body. I said, but I might be able to do something similar.

[Kathy]

Yeah.

[Rob Speed King]

And I explained to her the whole only fans thing and she was like, so she had so many questions and there was a particular Instagrammer that I followed who had it on only fans. I was not a member of it, but I had, but she had given me like a free access to kind of see what she did in order to be able to. For me to set up mine. And, and we set up a video conference between her and her husband and, and my wife and I, and we asked a million questions and we asked all about everything that was going on. And long story short, my wife's like, look, I'll be your camera person. You, you do whatever you need. You know, if we need to get props, we need to do that. She goes, I'll. I'll help you out. So a lot of times she's the one that's behind the camera.

[Kathy]

Right.

[Rob Speed King]

And, and so in the, in the early days and everything did okay. I mean, we, I didn't make a lot of money. I mean, still, still a little bit here and there. So. So any guys that are thinking about doing it, just understand you're not going to make a lot of money. Just, you know, maybe you might get gas money, but that's about it. Unless you, unless you're like, very prolific on something. And, and I did that for almost three years and I finally said, you know what? I need, I need to shut this down. I need to rethink things. I need, I need to. And I got very lazy with it. And I'm. And I will be very honest, I was very, very lazy just because I had so much else going on in my life. I just didn't have time to really take good care of it.

[Kathy]

Right.

[Rob Speed King]

If you get what I'm saying.

[Kathy]

Yeah, it takes a. It's a hard work. It's gone. You have to tend to it. All the time. It doesn't just. Just you don't build it, and then it takes off and takes care of itself. You have to tend to it always.

[Rob Speed King]

Correct. And so that's when I, A few months later, I was like, why not just go with Patreon? I said, it doesn't have all the bad connotations to it. I can set things up on different levels instead of just one full, you know, level. And I can do like a free level. I can do a teaser level. I could do a full explicit then and full explicit with videos and stuff like that. And so that's when I ended up doing. Doing it that way. And honestly, I mean, I've had more fun with that than I did with the. With the only fans.

[Kathy]

Yeah, I love that. Let me ask you this, Rob. I want to, like, I want to get all your information about your Patreon and what you do over there and all that kind of good stuff, but I'm gonna do that as a Patreon only episode. I do have a hoser tier on my Patreon, and we could promote your Patreon over there to my hosers. Right. They're your perfect people. But anyone that's listening to this episode on my. On my podcast could also join your Patreon. I will put your links in the description, but if people want to hear your part two, they could go to Patreon and hear the rest of this. I got your backstory. Let me just ask you a couple more hoser questions before we end this and then get to the Patreon section. But, like, right now, are you still, like, when it comes to hose, you're still wearing compression hose? Always. Is it always like, like, you know, high den tights, like compression hose is what you wear, correct?

[Rob Speed King]

I do, but what I do also, I do have to have a break from the squeeze, so I do wear fashion hosiery as well. It's become a part of my everyday dress. So, like, for instance, right now. Right now, I'm actually wearing Dan Skin microfiber dance tights.

[Kathy]

Yeah.

[Rob Speed King]

They're not compression.

[Kathy]

Yeah. Okay, cool. And what colors do you like to wear and the brands that you. You prefer? Like, when you're wearing regular stuff?

[Rob Speed King]

I prefer natural skin tones, but my. But my favorite color to wear is silver.

[Kathy]

Silver, interesting. Like a gray or a silver. Is it a tight or what's the denier that you like?

[Rob Speed King]

My generally, I prefer a 40 denier. That's my. That's my overall favorite. Yeah, I'll go as low as 20. But I won't go any lower than that just because I, I am, you know, I am a communication worker. So. Yeah, I kind of have to have some durability. Yeah. But I, I mean, like, for instance, these dance tights, about roughly 70 denier, maybe 80.

[Kathy]

Oh, nice. And they hold you in. I like, I prefer tights. I like hot. I like, you know, high denier. I like tights. I like that feeling of holding myself in. Not necessarily compression. Right. Because that could, you know, be. That's hardcore. But, but just reg. Even regular tights, you do have a little bit of a compression feeling. And I do like that. Some people do. You obviously do as well. Right.

[Rob Speed King]

Love it. I absolutely love it. And if, if it, if it's too light, then I won't wear it. But if it's got like a. Just a little bit of a squeeze to it, I'll wear them all the time. And, and I've got, and that, I mean, I've got brands that I love to wear all the time. Dan Skins is one of them. Berkshire is one of them. Of course. Legs. That's, that's a, A true classic. I wear Calzedonia. Oh, my gosh. What else? I've gotten late lately. I've gotten into wearing Manzi.

[Kathy]

Oh, I just heard of Manzi a lot from somebody else recently. Yeah.

[Rob Speed King]

Oh, I love them. They. They have, they have such a good stretch to them and they have a high shine that just satisfies.

[Kathy]

They're not expensive. I bought them myself to take a shower in them for my Patreon members. Someone made me do that for them. And I got him, Manzy and me, man. And this is what he wears. He's like a cam guy who wears pantyhose. And he's like, he loves those because he doesn't have to worry about whether he rips them or anything. You get like six in a pack for like 18 bucks. It's like, that's killer that.

[Rob Speed King]

I will say this. They are not cat proof.

[Kathy]

Yeah, but it doesn't matter. That's what's so great about them, right? They're cheap.

[Rob Speed King]

They're very cheap. I could at least get, you know, two. I can at least get two pair for like 20 bucks. Man. I can't.

[Kathy]

I got like six for like 18. No. Is that the same ones?

[Rob Speed King]

Oh, no, it's probably. Probably the same ones. It's just the ones I got were like off of Amazon.

[Kathy]

Yeah, yeah, yeah. Okay. But anyway, so you like those and you. And love them. Yeah. So we're gonna finish this conversation over my Patreon people. I have exclusive content over there and they could hear more about you. I'm going to give your link to Patreon though, for people to listen there. Maybe you'll be back on on my podcast again to talk about other things hoser related. But we got your backs right here and give out your shout out to your Instagram as well so people could go follow you over there.

[Rob Speed King]

Yep. Yeah, you can find me on Instagram. Now people know I'm a Star wars fan. So it's Darth Rob Speed King.

[Kathy]

I love it.

[Rob Speed King]

So if you want.

[Kathy]

Yeah.

[Rob Speed King]

If people wonder why speaking is because you know, like the Deep Purple song Speed king from their 1970s and rock album.

[Kathy]

Yeah, that's your metalhead in you. Okay, listen, Rob, thanks so much for calling in for my Fetish Friday episode and we're going to continue this conversation over on Patreon. But thanks for calling in finally.

[Rob Speed King]

Thank you. Thank you.

[Kathy]

Thanks. Bye.

Bye.

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