Behind the Scenes Minis: Disease Pact

Summary

Stuff You Missed in History Class
Behind the Scenes Minis: Disease Pact
May 29, 2026 | Hosts: Tracy V. Wilson & Holly Fry

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Episode Overview

In this behind-the-scenes mini-episode, Tracy and Holly dive into two recent main show topics: Carlos Juan Finlay's work on yellow fever and mosquito transmission, and the somewhat lesser-known figure Samuel Hartlib and his intellectual circle. They explore how disease has shaped history (and how, surprisingly, this has sometimes been downplayed), geek out over insect anatomy, share anecdotes about veterinary care for pets, and laugh about historical quirks—including a “secret” intellectual pact. Their banter is lively, familiar, and always rooted in a deep curiosity for historical oddities.

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Key Discussion Points & Insights

1. "Historians Have Only Recently Acknowledged the Role of Disease in History"

[02:38–07:01]

• Holly stumbles upon a surprising statement in a military history article, claiming that historians have "only recently acknowledged the role of disease in history."
• Both hosts are incredulous, recalling learning about the devastating effects of smallpox during the Revolutionary War and Civil War, and the impact of diseases introduced during colonization.
  • Tracy: "Hello, sir. Have you met Samuel Pepys?" [03:24]
  • Holly: "I remember multiple mentions of diseases being deadlier than combat in a lot of wartime engagements." [03:29]
• The hosts speculate the author may be referring to military historians' reluctance to focus on disease, since it removes focus from battles and personal heroism.
  • Holly: "If what you wanted to be writing about was battles and weaponry and tactics...it's like the diseases are stealing your thunder." [06:00]
  • Tracy: "Well, I have feelings. They're not charitable." [06:40]
• Both question whether disciplinary silos are at play, and agree that disease as a pivotal historical force is not a new observation.

2. Geekery About Mosquitoes & Insect Anatomy

[07:04–09:11]

• Delight in Carlos Juan Finlay’s meticulous drawings of mosquito mouthparts.
  • Holly: "They have parts of their mouths that turn into a straw, basically." [07:40]
  • Tracy draws a parallel to Maria Sibylla Merian’s insect drawings: "Often...you would see the fully unfurled straw apparatus and it was pretty cool." [08:02]
• Discussion turns to general insect anatomy enthusiasm—pollen pockets in bees, anatomical adaptations—which both find fascinating and beautiful.
• Personal anecdotes segue into a conversation about mosquito-borne diseases and their relevance to pet (cat) health.

3. Heartworm, Flea, and Tick Prevention in Pets

[09:11–11:49]

• Holly and Tracy swap stories about heartworm prevention decisions for their cats, emphasizing how context (e.g., geography, indoor/outdoor habits) changes risk.
  • Holly recalls receiving a listener email that misunderstood her approach, and underscores she made choices in consultation with a veterinarian.
  • Tracy: "Our ladies are always inside...the risk is pretty low if we're a little slacky." [10:29]
• Both confess that cat preventive schedules are imperfect and that veterinarians reported many owners are similarly lax.
  • Tracy: “The vet tech that I talked to was like, you know what? Probably 85% of our clients aren’t really up to date on it.” [11:09]
• Flea, tick, and even mouse-borne disease prevention for indoor cats is discussed, with Holly noting her old house and wooded neighborhood occasionally bring mice inside.

4. The "Mosquito Man" and Regrets in Scientific Discovery

[11:55–13:41]

• Returning to yellow fever, Holly discusses Juan Santos Fernandez, who established a Cuban research institute to find the cause of yellow fever, but dismissed Finlay’s theory—later regretting this after Walter Reed’s confirmation.
  • Holly: "[He] totally dismissed this guy and called him the Mosquito man..." [12:49]
• Tracy’s imagination runs wild with the “Mosquito Man” moniker, joking about a cryptid superhero, while Holly contemplates a human with mosquito mouthparts: “And it honestly is really cool.” [13:23]
• Both appreciate finally featuring Finlay on the podcast after years of interest.

5. Samuel Hartlib, the Hartlib Circle, and the “Disease Pact”

[17:26–26:47]

• The conversation switches to Samuel Hartlib, his influential network, and the so-called Disease Pact—a somewhat secretive intellectual agreement among 17th-century scholars.
  • Tracy is struck by how Hartlib is influential yet underappreciated: “He's unique because...there's not a whole lot of knowledge about him in general history.” [17:26]
• Holly and Tracy discuss how historians fill in gaps where historical records are thin, especially regarding Hartlib’s exclusion from the Royal Society.
  • Holly: "He was more like a librarian than a scientific researcher." [19:40]
  • Tracy: "He was like a catalog librarian...making sure that people got those [papers]." [20:16]
• The Disease Pact itself becomes a source of amusement:
  • Tracy: “This idea of, like, and it's our secret. I'm like, my dudes, everybody knows this is your life work...why did you put that clause in there?” [21:02]
  • Holly: “This feels like something that would have happened between, like, me and two other girls standing at the end of the hallway in high school...” [21:56]
  • The hosts appreciate the earnestness and near-childlike charm behind the pact’s secrecy, despite its obviousness.
• They reflect on aspirational 17th-century reforms—universal Latin, universal education, and pan-Protestant unity—with current-day skepticism.
  • Holly: “I also found very funny the idea of, like, uniting all of the Protestants into one.” [23:24]
  • Tracy: “Good luck.” [23:33]
• Both enjoy the concept of open knowledge sharing and imagine how Hartlib would thrive—or be put out of a job—by the modern Internet.
  • Tracy: "I wonder what he would make of the Internet...I think he would find things like Wikipedia just spectacular." [25:47]

6. Lighter, Personal Touches and Closing Thoughts

[24:23–26:47]

• Tracy confesses her struggle with the name John Drury (wanting to call him Drury repeatedly), and the hosts riff on playful Drury Lane allusions.
• Tracy shares her (possibly) upcoming interest in covering Boyle and his chemistry.
  • “Boyle and his chemistry...I’m not sure when, but it is coming.” [25:08]
• Both express admiration for Hartlib’s efforts, if not all his philosophies.
  • Tracy: “I love your noble efforts. Even if I don't agree with all of it. The concept is real good.” [25:35]
• Tracy ends with well-wishes for listeners to enjoy any upcoming time off, relax, do something rejuvenating, or, if working, that their obligations go smoothly and quickly. [26:47]

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Notable Quotes & Moments

• Holly (on military historians minimizing disease):
  “If what you wanted to be writing about was battles and weaponry and tactics...it's like the diseases are stealing your thunder.” [06:00]
• Tracy: “Hello, sir. Have you met Samuel Pepys?” [03:24]
• Holly (on mosquito anatomy):
  “They have parts of their mouths that turn into a straw, basically.” [07:40]
• Tracy (on the Disease Pact):
  “This idea of, like, and it's our secret. I'm like, my dudes, everybody knows this is your life work.” [21:02]
• Holly: “This feels like…something that would have happened between, like, me and two other girls…in high school…We're gonna form this secret pact.” [21:56]
• Tracy (on open intellectual exchange):
  “Anybody who wrote to [Hartlib] and was like, hey, I heard you have this thing…like a broker of great information. Terrific.” [25:12]

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Timestamps for Key Segments

• [02:38] – Stunned reactions to the claim that historians just discovered disease's influence
• [07:04] – Admiration for mosquito anatomy and Finlay’s drawings
• [09:11] – Pet health: Heartworm, fleas, and preventive struggles
• [11:55] – Scientific regret: “Mosquito Man” and missed yellow fever discoveries
• [17:26] – Hartlib, the Disease Pact, gaps in history, and knowledge circulation
• [21:02] – Hilarious analysis of the over-secretive “pact”
• [23:24] – Ambitious (and unlikely) utopian reform: Uniting all Protestants
• [25:08] – Foreshadowing future Boyle/chemistry episodes
• [26:47] – Hosts' personal sign-off and encouragement

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Tone & Style

The episode maintains a conversational, lightly irreverent tone, mixing genuine admiration and intellectual curiosity with playful teasing of historical oddities and their own tangents. Both Holly and Tracy bring warmth, inclusiveness, and a sense of finding joy even in the quirks and failings of history.

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This summary covers the essential content and spirit of the episode, distilling its most memorable discussions and quotes. Perfect for those who want to catch up on “what you missed” in “Stuff You Missed in History Class.”

Transcript

[Tracy V. Wilson]

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[Holly Fry]

Hello and Happy Friday. I'm Tracy V. Wilson and I'M Holly Fry, and I'm. This week, we talked about Carlos Juan Finlay and yellow fever, and we talked a lot about mosquitoes.

[Tracy V. Wilson]

Yeah.

[Holly Fry]

When I was doing the research on this, a statement was made in one of the papers that I just did a double take about. And I don't wanna throw this author under a bus, so I'm just gonna say what the sentence was and not more detail about the paper. The sentence was, historians have only recently acknowledged the role of disease in history.

[Tracy V. Wilson]

What?

[Holly Fry]

And I was like, right. That was my response.

[Tracy V. Wilson]

What?

[Holly Fry]

And the context of this was a military history paper. And so I was like, do you mean maybe only military historians specifically?

[Tracy V. Wilson]

Right? I'm like, hello, sir. Have you met Samuel Pepys? Right.

[Holly Fry]

So even then, like, I remember in elementary school learning what a problem smallpox was during the Revolutionary War. Like, I. I remember multiple mentions of diseases being deadlier than combat in a lot of wartime engagements. Like, I remember learning about how devastating disease was during the Civil War. So I read this statement, and I was like, what are you talking about?

[Tracy V. Wilson]

Well, and even before that, like, I think about the discussions of the diseases that were introduced by European colonists into North America that really, really devastated a lot of indigenous communities. We knew.

[Holly Fry]

This isn't really. Yeah, none of this is new stuff. And so this sort of made me wonder, like, is this person writing. Is what they are trying to express that there has not been as much really, really deep, detailed analysis of disease's role in wars. Right. From medical hist. Or from military historians specifically. Like, is this a statement that if it were being read by military historians, would go, okay, I get it. I get what you're saying. But since I, more of a generalist, am reading it, and I'm like, what are you talking about? Am I just coming from a totally different context than the person who wrote that sentence? Because the rest of the article did not seem like they did not know what they were talking about.

[Tracy V. Wilson]

Right. Listen, we're gonna blame an editor there. I say that having been a copy editor, sure, I'll take the blame whenever I don't. But the thing is even that, right, like, there have been discussions of, like, this military force was significantly weakened by disease, and that's why they were not effective in this conflict.

[Holly Fry]

Right?

[Tracy V. Wilson]

So that seems weird unless they're talking about a very specific. Like, no one has been able to run the hard numbers, quantify, like, what percentage of disadvantage problem was created by these specific. Like, that's the only thing I can think of. But that seems like such a general sentence. It's not talking about that.

[Holly Fry]

Yeah, there. It would. There was a, like, footnote reference to another paper that made it sound like military historians specifically did not want to focus so much on disease because focusing on the role of disease in war took a lot of the human agency about it. So if what you wanted to be writing about was battles and weaponry and tactics, and really the major driver of the course of the war was diseases, it's like the diseases are stealing your thunder. If your interest is on the battles and the weapons and the maneuvers.

[Tracy V. Wilson]

Well, I have feelings. They're not charitable.

[Holly Fry]

I definitely said what out loud. Very much the way you said what When I read that sentence.

[Tracy V. Wilson]

Yeah. That's so odd.

[Holly Fry]

It was very, very weird.

[Tracy V. Wilson]

I'm still parsing this file. I'm like, yeah.

[Holly Fry]

Something that was much more on the delightful end of the spectrum to me anyway, is that some of Finlay's papers about yellow fever had these illustrations of mosquito mouth parts. And I. I do not love mosquitoes. I do not like being bitten by mosquitoes. I don't like mosquito bites. I don't like the number of diseases that people can get from mosquitoes, many of which don't have treatments or cures that are very effective right now. I do like. Their mouths are cool.

[Tracy V. Wilson]

Oh, yeah.

[Holly Fry]

They have parts of their mouths that turn into a straw, basically.

[Tracy V. Wilson]

Yeah.

[Holly Fry]

They don't fly around with it like a straw all the time. It's like a little Velcro thing.

[Tracy V. Wilson]

Right. With the proboscis unfurled.

[Holly Fry]

Yeah. And so when I saw that he had drawn these little mosquito mouth parts, I was extremely excited about.

[Tracy V. Wilson]

Reminds me of when we talked about years ago, Maria Cebulla Meria and her drawings of insects similarly. Like, in that case, it was about not biting people, but about collecting pollen and whatnot. But often same. You would see the fully unfurled straw apparatus and it was pretty cool.

[Holly Fry]

Yeah. Yeah. Back when I used to write for a website called How Stuff Works, I really enjoyed all of the insect and arachnid articles that I read because they always had such interesting and cool anatomical features.

[Tracy V. Wilson]

Oh, they're beautiful.

[Holly Fry]

Like bees having all of these structures on their bodies to hold pollen, including like sort of little pockets. Little pockets to fill up with their pollen as they fly around. I love it.

[Tracy V. Wilson]

I love it. Get pollen Pocket. Not to be confused with Polly Pocket, but a Polly Pocket. Yeah. I have a. My general fear of mosquitoes is more about the cats, since they're a heartworm vector.

[Holly Fry]

Yeah.

[Tracy V. Wilson]

And I will confess that I am not always amazing at keeping up with the cat's preventative.

[Holly Fry]

Right, Right.

[Tracy V. Wilson]

Cause listen, we got sassy girls at our house.

[Holly Fry]

Yeah, yeah. We had a discussion about this on the show at one point a long time ago, and I don't even remember how it came up. That was about heartworm prevention in cats. And when I was living in, like, North Carolina and Georgia, I had. They were on heartworm prevention in a lot of the places that I lived. But then I moved. One of the places that I moved, I had a conversation with the vet that was about the risk of heartworm in that area versus the risk of the preventive for the heartworm. Right. Which in that particular case, it was like, there's not really a reason to do this. There's not a major risk of heartworm here. There would be more risk from the thing. And we got an email from someone who was really upset because I think they thought I had just decided, based on vibes, not that I'd had a thoughtful conversation with the veterinarian about whether that was what they needed.

[Tracy V. Wilson]

Yeah, yeah. Our other thing, right? Our. Our ladies are always inside. They have no exposure to dogs. We don't even have friends who are dog people that are ever at the house.

[Holly Fry]

Yeah.

[Tracy V. Wilson]

I can't think of any of our friends that has a dog right now that would be over on the regular. So the risk is pretty low if we're a little slacky. Although I had a funny thing recently. Gosh, it was probably a month ago. We had everybody in for their annual. And they always ask, like, are you keeping up with? And I'm like, not really. I'm sorry. And the vet tech that I talked to was like, you know what? Probably 85% of our clients aren't really up to date on it. I was like, whoa, that's a high number.

[Holly Fry]

Yeah.

[Tracy V. Wilson]

We also have that problem of one of our cats being extra robust and needing, like, the higher dose than anybody else.

[Holly Fry]

We do flea and tick prevention on ours, even though they never go outside, because I go outside a lot.

[Tracy V. Wilson]

Oh, yeah. You're out in the woods having nature experiences.

[Holly Fry]

You know, if I could take a tick prevention for myself, I would do that.

[Tracy V. Wilson]

Do it. Just put the cat stuff on the back of your neck. It'll be fine.

[Holly Fry]

And then also, because we live in a very old house in an area that has woods and whatnot around it, occasionally we do get mice inside, and they can also bring in.

[Tracy V. Wilson]

Yeah, yeah, yeah. Oh, I had not thought about that for you.

[Holly Fry]

That's a whole other.

[Tracy V. Wilson]

Whole other potential concern.

[Holly Fry]

Yeah. So especially since Opal in particular is she likes to find a mouse. We haven't seen one in the house in quite a while, but she thinks they should be toys and I try to get them away from her. Anyway, to return to Yellow Fever. To Yellow Fever and Carlos Vaughan Finlay, we talked about how a man named Juan Santos Fernandez had established this institute, this research institute. He really wanted to find the cause of yellow fever. And I think the impression I get is that after Walter Reed came down and confirmed what Finlay had been saying the whole time, Juan Santos Fernandez was like, really kicking himself. He was like, I could have had this discovery on my list of achievements. And I don't because I totally dismissed this guy and called him the Mosquito

[Tracy V. Wilson]

man, which launched my brain when we were talking about it onto a whole different, like, yeah, Cryptid trajectory of what mosquito man would look like. And I'm like, how would it compare to Mothman? Would people also think it was a sandhill crane? Like, I was literally down the road so far, I was like, reel it

[Holly Fry]

back in, Holly, reel it back in. Now I'm thinking about a human sized person with mosquito mouth parts.

[Tracy V. Wilson]

Yeah.

[Holly Fry]

And it honestly is really cool.

[Tracy V. Wilson]

And his name is Captain Proboscis. The brain is busy.

[Holly Fry]

So, yeah, I'm glad I finally got to this episode because it's been more than a decade since I've said I want to talk about the sky some more.

[Tracy V. Wilson]

Yeah, it's wild the way time passes. How dare.

[Holly Fry]

It really does. It really does.

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[Tracy V. Wilson]

And we talked about Samuel Hartlib and the Hartlib Circle this week. I find this whole concept fascinating that there are, I mean this is a thing that always fascinates me in everything that we talk about. There are just, in a manner of pattern recognition, people that pop up over and over that are obviously nexus points in history where they knew a lot of people, influenced a lot of people, et cetera. He's unique because he's that. But there's not a whole lot of knowledge about him in like, you know, general history. You kind of have to find the Hartlib scholars to learn about him. And I just think that's interesting.

[Holly Fry]

Yeah.

[Tracy V. Wilson]

One of the things that I am always tickled by, but especially in this instance, is how, you know, when there's not a lot of ready, documented information about somebody. Sometimes you can see the vibe of when people are kind of filling in the blanks or making suppositions or even kind of putting their own opinion in the mix.

[Holly Fry]

Sure.

[Tracy V. Wilson]

Which is. I'm not dogging any of those people. Like you're trying to make the narrative work. It's fine. But one of the things that was interesting was that any of the times when Hartlib was excluded from something, why the Office of Address never happened or why he was left out of the Royal Society. And one, especially with the Royal Society, I saw one paper about it that kind of hinted like, well, he was so tied to like, you know, the hyper sort of almost puritan thing and so religious that the Royal Society was like, yeah, I mean, we're Christians, but you're, you're a lot. But that doesn't seem to have really been the thing. Right. When you look at it, he wasn't, I mean, as we mentioned in the show, he wasn't that. He wasn't in the mix, talking out like any of these scientific concepts with

[Holly Fry]

a lot of people.

[Tracy V. Wilson]

He wasn't trying to be part of their meetings or their little circle. He was just trying to like be a steward of that information.

[Holly Fry]

Yeah.

[Tracy V. Wilson]

So I just find that interesting.

[Holly Fry]

He was more like a librarian than a scientific researcher. And a lot of the other people that were part of the founding of the Royal Society were like doing hands on research of some sort.

[Tracy V. Wilson]

Yeah.

[Holly Fry]

And it's at least from the quoted material in the episode, it seems like not only was he not doing some kind of hands on research, he also seems like he wasn't really super in depth reading anybody else's stuff. He was more passing it around, like circulating it. Yeah.

[Tracy V. Wilson]

He was like a catalog librarian. Yeah, yeah. And was like, oh, do you have a request for that paper that so and so wrote? I'll make you a copy. That's not a problem. And was like making sure that people got those. And because he was publishing things, he clearly had access to, you know, print materials and could, could make duplicates of things in whatever way he was doing it. So, I mean, I. I feel like it just was like a. It would have been almost weird for him to have been. Yeah. A member when you view it through that lens. Like, no, you're. You're. You're.

[Dr. Joy]

Yeah.

[Tracy V. Wilson]

You're cataloging things. Okay. We have to talk about the pact. Because I'm obsessed with it.

[Holly Fry]

It's so funny.

[Tracy V. Wilson]

It's sort of cute, sort of sweet.

[Holly Fry]

I feel like they had a tree house and they would go up there and they would pull the ladder up after them.

[Tracy V. Wilson]

Yeah. But what I find. So what? Just. I had fits of giggles when I was reading about it because this idea of, like, and it's our secret. I'm like, my dudes, everybody knows this is your life work. This isn't a secret. Like, why did you put that clause in there?

[Holly Fry]

Like,

[Tracy V. Wilson]

is there some aspect of this I'm not grasping? Like, yeah, and we won't tell anyone. And I'm like, you tell everybody all the time. I guess they're just not saying. And we signed a document about it. I don't.

[Holly Fry]

Right.

[Tracy V. Wilson]

And that's the other thing. If it's supposed to be a secret. You documented it. You kept that document forever.

[Holly Fry]

Yeah.

[Tracy V. Wilson]

I love it so much. It's so silly. Anyway, Tracy, we're gonna make a podcast. But it's our secret.

[Holly Fry]

It's gonna be a secret. This. This feels like, like, this feels like something that would have happened between, like, me and two other girls standing at the end of the hallway in high school. We're gonna decide. We're gonna form this secret pact.

[Tracy V. Wilson]

Yeah. My mental picture of how this would enact for me went even farther back than this. I'm like, this happened on the Four Square court in second grade.

[Holly Fry]

Okay.

[Tracy V. Wilson]

We couldn't write in Latin then. No. Or ever. It made me laugh so hard. It made me laugh so hard. I love the whole, like, there will be no secrets. It's precious. I don't mean to mock it. There's an earnestness to it that is actually so charming. But the part that, like, we're gonna keep it secret, just. I was like, what? But you're not. You write other pamphlets about how important this work is.

[Holly Fry]

Yeah.

[Tracy V. Wilson]

I love it. I love it. And I'm glad of it because, you know, he distributed a lot of information. Listen, do I. I don't agree with his concepts that, like, if we all read the Bible more, we would be a better nation. You gotta have. Gotta let people do their thing, whatever religion they choose or don't choose. It's fine.

[Holly Fry]

I also found the very funny, the idea of, like, uniting all of the Protestants into one.

[Tracy V. Wilson]

Good luck.

[Holly Fry]

This is sort of running afoul of the concept of the Protestant movement. The Protestant Reformation.

[Tracy V. Wilson]

Yeah. I mean, I do love the idea of, like, if everyone has universal education, we will all understand each other better.

[Holly Fry]

Yeah.

[Tracy V. Wilson]

We there. It will be a more egalitarian and utopian community because everybody will, like, get it. But at this point in our lives that we're living right now, it seems like even if you give people the information, they may not digest it.

[Holly Fry]

They might willfully misuse it to hurt other people.

[Tracy V. Wilson]

Yes, the worst. But I love the idea. I love the hippie part of it where it's like, you guys, we would all be cool to each other if we all spoke Latin, if we could

[Holly Fry]

all read ancient Latin texts.

[Tracy V. Wilson]

Do you know what was one of the hardest parts of this episode for me? It's very silly.

[Holly Fry]

What?

[Tracy V. Wilson]

John Drury. Because, you know, I want to call him John Drury all the time for no reason.

[Holly Fry]

I'm afraid I did at some point, and neither of us caught it.

[Tracy V. Wilson]

I don't think you did, because I was listening for it, because I knew I was so predisposed to do so. So I don't think you did.

[Holly Fry]

But I feel like he lives on

[Tracy V. Wilson]

Drury Lane, right in the theater where all the ghosts are. Really. Samuel Hartlib was. Is kind of a precursor to me wanting to talk about Boyle and his chemistry, so.

[Holly Fry]

Oh, yeah.

[Tracy V. Wilson]

I'm not sure when, but it is coming.

[Holly Fry]

Yeah.

[Tracy V. Wilson]

And again, I do love the idea of, like, a little, you know, intellectual correspondence group, but, like, that's not exclusive. And like, anybody who wrote to him and was like, hey, I heard you have this thing, like a broker of great information. Terrific. Yeah, yeah, I have it right from the source. Do you want to read that guy's paper? I'll make you a copy.

[Holly Fry]

Absolutely.

[Tracy V. Wilson]

Terrific. I love your noble efforts. Even if I don't agree with all of it. The concept is real good. I wonder what he would make of the Internet.

[Holly Fry]

He might feel like he's been put out of a job.

[Tracy V. Wilson]

He'd either be really into it or really heartbroken. Well, or maybe it would be his job. I think he would find things like Wikipedia just spectacular.

[Holly Fry]

I was thinking more archive.org and all of the.

[Tracy V. Wilson]

Probably. But remember, he was in the contemporary thing, so it wasn't all about archives for him as much as about sharing newly developing ideas. Like, now his stuff is in archive.org and I do love that the University of Sheffield makes all of his papers available.

[Holly Fry]

Nice.

[Tracy V. Wilson]

I had some tricky times with search, but I think that's a user error thing and not a them thing. But you can if you just want to kill a weekend. I mean there's thousands and thousands and thousands of documents. You could not read them all unless you put aside time like a large chunk of your life to just become a heart lib scholar. But it's. It's very interesting if you can get through the very clunky linguistic style.

[Holly Fry]

Right?

[Tracy V. Wilson]

Sorry Samuel, I don't mean to criticize. It's just hard to read. Speaking of chunks of time in your life, if you have days off coming up, I hope they're stupendous. I hope that you hang out and relax and do whatever hippie or non hippie thing you want to do that makes you feel rejuvenated and good about the world and that we are all kind to one another. If you have to work or you are saddled with a lot of obligations this weekend, I hope that those go super duper smoothly and that they all wrap up a little faster than you're expecting so you get some time back to do whatever you want. Eat a cupcake. Sounds great. We will be right back here on Monday with a new episode. We will also be here tomorrow with a classic.

[Holly Fry]

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