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Jon Stewart
In six months Jon Stewart is back at the Daily show and he's bringing his signature wit and insight straight to your ears with the Daily Show Ears Edition podcast. Dive into John's unique take on the biggest topics in politics, entertainment, sports and more. Joined by the sharp voices of the show's correspondents and contributors, and with extended interviews and exclusive weekly headline roundups, this podcast gives you content you won't find anywhere else. Ready to laugh and stay informed? Listen on the iHeartRadio app, Apple Podcasts or wherever you get your podcasts.
Maria Tremarki
Welcome to the Criminalia Podcast. I'm Maria Tremorki.
Holly Fry
And I'm Holly Fry. Together we invite you into the dark and winding corridors of historical true crime.
Maria Tremarki
Each season we explore a new theme. From poisoners to art thieves, we uncover.
Holly Fry
The secrets of history's most interesting figures, from legal injustices to body snatching.
Maria Tremarki
Tune in at the end of each episode as we indulge in cocktails and mocktails inspired by each story.
Holly Fry
Listen to criminalia on the iHeartRadio app, Apple Podcasts, or wherever you get your podcasts.
Danny Trehlvey
You should probably keep your lights on for Nocturnal Tales from the Shadow. Join me, Danny Trehlvey, and step into the Flames of Fright, an anthology podcast of modern day horror stories inspired by the most terrify legends and lore of Latin America. Listen to nocturnum on the iHeartRadio app, Apple podcast or wherever you get your podcast.
Holly Fry
Welcome to Stuff youf Missed in History Class, a production of iHeartradio.
Tracy P. Wilson
Hello and happy Friday. I'm Tracy P. Wilson.
Holly Fry
And I'm Holly Fry.
Tracy P. Wilson
This week was Unearthed Week in a Behind the Scenes since most of these two installments of Unearthed were written back before the holidays because I wanted to take some time off at the end of the year, I had gotten all of the Unearthed ready to go and then the plan was that I would return to the office on the 6th of January. I would go through the news and see what had come out between in the mid December, mid late December timeline, in January. And I would add in anything that needed to be added in that actually worked really well. But what also happened was I just entirely forgot anything that I had written prior. So I was coming at it, reading it as though someone else had written it, and in some cases, finding truly hilarious typos that I had made back before the holiday. Like when I typed Walrus Ivory as Walrus Ivy, which I found very funny. There were some things that came up in the news that I wanted to include, but I became so confused about what the researchers were actually trying to say that I was like, I can't put this in there. Like, there was one. There was some research about the domestication of maize, and I just couldn't figure out what the results were even going to the original paper. The results are just incomprehensible to me anyway. Petra. Yeah. We determined mostly during AD break time, when Holly and I were just discussing things and stuff that was cut out on the episode, that I found this deeply annoying. But, Holly, you do not totally understand my annoyance at it.
Holly Fry
I understand your logic for being annoyed. I 100% get that.
Tracy P. Wilson
Okay.
Holly Fry
Yeah. But I think, like, to me, it's not annoying because I understand the way that they're just trying to, like, shorthand recognition of the site for readers that are not maybe, steeped in historical knowledge.
Tracy P. Wilson
Yeah. Yeah. So I think, like, I absolutely understand that the role of a headline writer is to write a headline that will get people to read the thing. Like, that's the purpose. And I think it's probably possible to write a headline that alludes to Indiana Jones without making it sound like that Indiana Jones is the only important thing about Petra. Because some of the headlines that were about this read like, Indiana Jones filming. Like Tomb found at Indiana Jones filming Location. And that was like, the sum of the. The sum of the headline.
Holly Fry
Right.
Tracy P. Wilson
Which makes it sound like that could have happened on the backlot somewhere.
Holly Fry
Yeah, I see that. I will say this, though. I don't know. And maybe I'm just lacking creativity in this moment. I'm not even saying that's a good headline. But I am saying that I don't know how you would shorthand what Petra is.
Tracy P. Wilson
Yeah.
Holly Fry
In a headline that would make people understand what it is.
Tracy P. Wilson
Yeah.
Holly Fry
Because it is super cool and super weird and beautiful.
Tracy P. Wilson
Yeah. I don't think we have an episode on Petra, and I don't think prior hosts did a Petra episode either. It's definitely not one I remember seeing in the many times that I've been looking at old episodes for some reason. But Petra has been used as a filming location in a lot of films.
Holly Fry
Yeah.
Tracy P. Wilson
And often it's supposed to be this like mysterious, almost incomprehensible place. And so it's, it's. That's sort of become connected to like the popular conception of it. I think probably of all of the many movies that have been filmed there, probably Indiana Jones like most cultural sticking power, if that makes sense.
Holly Fry
Yeah, I mean, if you said Mortal Kombat Annihilation filming site, I don't know that most people are going to be like, I know exactly the place you're talking about. Yeah.
Tracy P. Wilson
I think maybe the Mummy returns a little more memorable than that. Just in part because of how the mu. The Mummy became its own kind of cultural.
Holly Fry
Yeah, yeah, yeah.
Tracy P. Wilson
Not to the like just the juggernaut of Indiana giants. Anyway, the. I saw headlines that were almost exclusively referencing Indiana Jones numerous times before I actually saw an article that I was like, oh, this find is actually interesting without even the connection to Indiana Jones. And then I was like, okay, I'll put it in Unearthed. But I'm gonna comment that I'm annoyed by the reporting. U. There's. It seems maybe not all the time, but there've been a lot of times there's been like one particular news story that gets. Is being reported over and over and over again in the same way. And that way starts to annoy me. Or in this case from jump annoyed me.
Holly Fry
Right, Yeah, I get it. We all, we all have our peccadilloes.
Tracy P. Wilson
We do, we do. Maybe there will be a future Petra episode. I don't know. I don't know. A lot of the things that we talked about this time and part of it is just my own selection bias because I was working on this in the late December time, a time that is very busy trying to get ready to have some time off. Also a number kind of stressful things happening in the world going on. I tended toward the things that just struck me as delightful more than the ones that are horrifying.
Holly Fry
Right.
Tracy P. Wilson
And I mean, some of the things that we talked about are things that are either horrifying or related to horrifying things in history. But I was also just like, man, I love talking about the cat kneading on a piece of pottery as it was drying. I love all the things that were about bread. I love all of the things that were about, you know, these letters. I even though I don't love the Sexism that Ada Lovelace was having to deal with. Right. The. The tone of the letters being like, hey, just curious. My husband wants to know. I'm.
Holly Fry
I'm just a foolish lady. I don't know anything. By the way, here's a complex math equation.
Tracy P. Wilson
Here's. Here's something incredibly complicated that I'm asking you about.
Holly Fry
I kind of want there to be like this. As soon as I saw that in your outline, my brain was like, there needs to be, like, a TV series called Miscellaneous 19. And it's like all of the secret things Ada Lovelace was doing to try to, like, do all of her projects without ruffling any feathers of people that might be confused by her being a woman who was, you know, incredibly smart.
Tracy P. Wilson
Yeah.
Holly Fry
Anyway, that's just the show that now runs in my head for free.
Tracy P. Wilson
Yeah, I would watch that. That sounds very fun.
Holly Fry
Miscellaneous 19 sounds very fun.
Tracy P. Wilson
I want more William Blake. Distracted doodling.
Holly Fry
Yes. I love William Blake.
Tracy P. Wilson
Yeah.
Holly Fry
I also like that we got some Bram Stoker.
Tracy P. Wilson
Oh, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah.
Holly Fry
Have you been to read that short story?
Tracy P. Wilson
No, I did not.
Holly Fry
It's super creepy.
Tracy P. Wilson
Oh, really?
Holly Fry
It's about. It starts out sort of like. It seems sort of sweet. It's like there's a man talking to children about murder and death and what all of that means. And then the children. It kind of takes a turn, and the kids are not the good guys.
Tracy P. Wilson
They'll tell you. Huh.
Holly Fry
But it's quite lovely. I'm in a very Bram Stoker place right now. Okay. Because the new Nosferatu came out.
Tracy P. Wilson
Right.
Holly Fry
So I, of course, went on Christmas Day, as you do, which I quite enjoyed. Some people are not loving it. It's a little too sexy. They weren't ready.
Tracy P. Wilson
Okay.
Holly Fry
Some people in our theater were not ready. There was a group of, like, 20 something dudes that were not prepared for the sex, and they kind of giggled nervously through the whole thing.
Tracy P. Wilson
Okay.
Holly Fry
And I was like, oh. Oh, babies. Vampires inherently have a lot of sexual.
Tracy P. Wilson
Connotation, but this is reminding me of the time that I saw the Watchmen in an IMAX theater and there were some folks behind me who were unprepared for the full frontal male nudity.
Holly Fry
Yeah. In imax.
Tracy P. Wilson
In imax, yeah.
Holly Fry
But anyway, having seen that again has now sent me down all of the rabbit holes of Dracula and Nosferatu and I revisited Powers of Darkness, which is the English translation of the Icelandic translation of Dracula. That is quite different in some ways, which really may actually be the Icelandic translation of the Swedish translation of Dracula, which may have been changed by Bram Stoker himself. Anyway, in the midst of a whole Bram Stoker moment. So I was very pleased that Gibbet Hill came up, although I was not sure how to pronounce Gibbet Hill well.
Tracy P. Wilson
And I just. I think that's right. I don't know. So often. I don't. We've talked about pronunciations on the show. In my opinion, they are one of the hardest things.
Holly Fry
Oh yeah.
Tracy P. Wilson
About the show because we are typically like we're trying to get a native speaker of something saying it correctly. And sometimes there are native speakers of something that are not saying it correctly. We don't really have a way of knowing that. Sometimes there's like a bunch of differences regionally in how someone says a thing. Sometimes we just do our best and we get it wrong. And that was one that I didn't even think to look up whether, like how people pronounced the g right.
Holly Fry
Which is a thing.
Jon Stewart
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Danny Trehlvey
Welcome. I'm Danny Thrill. Won't you join me at the fire and dare enter. Nocturnal Tale from the Shadows presented by iheart and Sonora. An anthology of modern day horror stories inspired inspired by the legends of Latin America. From ghastly encounters with shape shifters to bone chilling brushes with supernatural creatures. Take a trip and experience the horrors that have haunted Latin America since the beginning of time. Listen to Nocturne Tales from the Shadows as part of my Cultura Podcast network. Available on the iHeartRadio app, Apple Podcast or wherever you get your podcast.
Maria Tremarki
Welcome to the Criminalia Podcast. I'm Maria Tremarke.
Holly Fry
And I'm Holly Fry. Together we invite you into the dark and winding corridors of historical true crime.
Maria Tremarki
Each season we explore a new theme. Everything from poisoners and pirates to art thieves and snake oil products and those who made and sold them.
Holly Fry
We uncover the stories and secrets of some of history's most compelling criminal figures, including a man who built a submarine as a getaway vehicle. Yep, that's a fact.
Maria Tremarki
We also look at what kinds of societal forces were at play at the time of the crime, from legal injustices to the ethics of body snatching to see what, if anything, might look different through today's perspective.
Holly Fry
And be sure to tune in at the end of each episode as we indulge in custom made cocktails and mocktails inspired by the stories. There's one for every story we tell.
Maria Tremarki
Listen to criminalia on the iHeartRadio app, Apple Podcasts, or wherever you get your podcasts.
Ozvarlosjin
Do you want to understand an invisible force that's shaping your life? I'm osvarlosjin, one of the new hosts of the long running podcast Tech Stuff. I'm slightly skeptical but obsessively intrigued.
Holly Fry
And I'm Kara Price, the other new host and I'm ready to adopt early.
Ozvarlosjin
And often on tech Stuff. We travel all the way from the mines of Congo to the surface of Mars to the dark corners of TikTok to ask and attempt to answer burning questions about technology.
Maria Tremarki
One of the kind of tricks for.
Tracy P. Wilson
Surviving Mars is to live there long enough so that people evolve into Martians.
Holly Fry
Like data is a very rough proxy for a complex reality. How is it possible that the world's.
Ozvarlosjin
New energy revolution can be based in this place where there's no electricity at night?
Holly Fry
Oz and I will cut through the noise to bring you the best conversations and deep dives that will help you understand how tech is changing our world and what you need to know to survive the singularity.
Ozvarlosjin
So join us listen to tech stuff on the iHeartRadio app, Apple Podcasts or wherever you get your podcasts.
Holly Fry
I have my own personal unearthed. Oh tell me if you want it, please. So as you may recall, as we were talking about sewing back when we recorded before you left in one of our behind the scenes, I mentioned a.
Tracy P. Wilson
Sewing magazine and a pattern with a.
Holly Fry
It's really multiple patterns of like so cute koala siblings that I have been looking for and I even said like if anybody knows where this is and you have been out. So I have been doing QA on everything in the last couple weeks while you were gone. And when we got to that I was like I'm going to go search it again. And I did, still didn't find anything. And then I just started putting weird nonsense words, semi nonsense words together, right? Like koalas Christmas vintage, which turned up a lot of one particular pattern that is not. This was like a pattern you would buy like in a pattern envelope, not from a magazine. Yeah, and then I was doing some version of that. I don't remember what the exact key string I Did. And it did not turn up the pattern, but it turned up an image of a magazine that did not have the koalas on it. And it was an Etsy listing, but bless this Etsy seller who had clearly keyworded it and also had scanned in pictures of most of the primary items within the magazine. And I'm paging through, and I'm paging through, and I'm paging through. And then there were Kirby and Katie. So I have. It's not in my clutches yet. It's gonna come, like, it's on the way tomorrow while I'm out of town on a business trip, but it's coming, and then I'm gonna make. And I, I. It was also the first time in, I don't know, 30 plus years that I saw it because, like, when my mom passed, she was a little bit of a sewing hoarder. I come by it honestly, and I specifically looked for this magazine, and I could not find it. And so I had this image in my head of what it was, and there it was. And it was the same. It was in the McCall's Creative Crafts Christmas Bazaar magazine of 1983. I was two years off on my guess when we talked about it, but it's as cute as I remember.
Tracy P. Wilson
So good.
Holly Fry
It's both of the koalas, plus their koala baby sister, plus their koala baby sister's little bitty koala plush, plus a blanket that you applique that goes with them, plus their duffel bags I talked about, plus a train made of felt like, I'm obsessed. I'm making these things. It's going to be like. If anybody wants to follow along, I'm sure my Instagram will be full of koala plush things for the foreseeable future. Cause, you know, I'm gonna make them seasonal outfits.
Tracy P. Wilson
Yeah.
Holly Fry
They're gonna have Halloween costumes. I don't know how I'm gonna integrate them with all of my Star wars stuff, but I will.
Tracy P. Wilson
Yeah.
Holly Fry
My inner child has become so healed over finding this one thing, even more than I would have anticipated.
Tracy P. Wilson
This is really reminding me of something that I read while I was out on the break, which was a story about somebody trying to find a story they had read when they were a child. And for years doing a very similar thing of, like, searching. Like, once search became a thing that you could do. Searching, trying to find this story, trying to find the story, trying to find the story, failing to find the story, and doing this sort of every year. And this person chronicled the whole Thing in a piece on substack called Twelfth Night till Candlemas. The story of a 40 year book quest and of its remarkable ending. And it was very similar of like trying to find this story remembered from childhood and just not being able to do it. And the person who did finally, finally find the story and said hey, by chance is this the story was a librarian.
Holly Fry
Librarian to the wind man.
Tracy P. Wilson
This is what librarians. This person also had two different experiences where I think it was two different experiences where somebody was like is this it? And the thing that was like is this it was an AI generated thing. That was not it. But librarians amazing librarian found it using sort of a similar process to what you just said of like kind of tweaking the search terms and winding up in the right place. So good.
Holly Fry
Kirby and Katie come in everybody's way.
Tracy P. Wilson
So exciting.
Holly Fry
I'm so stupidly excited. My husband was just like, you are crying. And I was like, I know. Like bless him. He has had to have me. I'm gazing at this picture on my phone until it comes that this person and I just keep showing it to him and he's like, uh huh.
Tracy P. Wilson
I've seen the fell train.
Holly Fry
That's great babe. Yeah. I don't even understand why I'm so excited about it. I just am.
Tracy P. Wilson
I really love this. If folks are wanting an update about whether I have seen the six Triple eight movie, I have not yet.
Holly Fry
Oh yeah, I was wondering.
Tracy P. Wilson
Yeah, I did not get to watch it while I was at my parents house. And then when I got home I had a number like we had a number of adult household things that we wanted to do around the house. I was home. We got a fraction of those things done and I got sucked back into a video game that I used to play a long time ago. And I spent a long time playing the video game. And I can't play video games right before bedtime because it interferes with my sleep. I have to do something else. I can understand that. And so I would turn off video game and I would see if there was maybe a little something that I wanted to watch, a short episode of television or something. And whenever I would open Netflix the thing, it would show me and be like, you might enjoy this movie, the six triple eight. And I'd be like, I can't start a movie now. I'm going to bed.
Holly Fry
You're like, I might enjoy that movie but now is not the time. Thank you.
Tracy P. Wilson
So at some point I will watch it, but I still have not. So yeah.
Holly Fry
Anyway, all of the updates on the things we discussed three weeks ago.
Tracy P. Wilson
Yep, yep. So whatever's coming up on the next couple of days for you, whether it's your weekend, whether you gotta go to work, whatever, I hope everything is going great. We're just a couple of weeks into the New year. I hope the new year is treating everyone well. We'll be back tomorrow with a Saturday classic. We will have something brand new on Monday. Stuff youf Missed in History Class is a production of iHeartRadio. For more podcasts from iHeartRadio, visit the iHeartRadio app, Apple Podcasts or wherever you listen to your favorite show.
Jon Stewart
Jon Stewart is back at the Daily show and he's bringing his signature wit and insight straight to your ears with the Daily Show Ears Edition podcast. Dive into John's unique take on the biggest topics in politics, entertainment, sports and more. Joined by the sharp voices of the show's correspondence and contributors, and with extended interviews and exclusive weekly headline roundups, this podcast gives you content you won't find anywhere else. Ready to laugh and stay informed? Listen on the iHeartRadio app, Apple Podcasts or wherever you get your podcasts.
Maria Tremarki
Welcome to the Criminalia Podcast. I'm Maria Tremarke.
Holly Fry
And I'm Holly Fry. Together we invite you into the dark and winding corridors of historical true crime.
Maria Tremarki
Each season we explore a new theme, from poisoners to to art thieves.
Holly Fry
We uncover the secrets of history's most interesting figures, from legal injustices to body snatching.
Maria Tremarki
And tune in at the end of each episode as we indulge in cocktails and mocktails inspired by each story.
Holly Fry
Listen to criminalia on the iHeartRadio app, Apple Podcasts, or wherever you get your podcasts.
Danny Trehlvey
You should probably keep your lights on for Nocturnal Tales from the Shadow Press. Join me, Danny Trehoving and step into the flames of Fright, an anthology podcast of modern day horror stories inspired by the most terrifying legends and lore of Latin America. Listen to nocturnal on the iHeartRadio app, Apple podcast or wherever you get your podcast.
Ozvarlosjin
Do you want to see into the future? Do you want to understand an invisible force that's shaping your life? Do you want to experience the frontiers of what makes us human? On tech stuff we travel from the mines of Congo to the surface of Mars, from conversations with Nobel Prize winners to the depths of TikTok to ask burning questions about technology, from high tech to low culture and everywhere in between. Join us Listen to tech stuff on the iHeartRadio app, Apple Podcasts or wherever you get your podcasts.
Podcast Summary: Stuff You Missed in History Class – "Behind the Scenes Minis: Petra Peccadillo"
Title: Behind the Scenes Minis: Petra Peccadillo
Hosts: Holly Fry & Tracy P. Wilson
Release Date: January 17, 2025
Podcast: Stuff You Missed in History Class
Produced by: iHeartRadio
The episode begins with Holly Fry and Tracy P. Wilson warmly greeting listeners, setting the stage for an insightful discussion into the behind-the-scenes processes of their podcast, specifically focusing on the "Unearthed" series.
Tracy P. Wilson [02:25]:
"This week was Unearthed Week in a Behind the Scenes..."
Tracy discusses the challenges faced in preparing the "Unearthed" episodes during the holiday season. She had written the episodes before the holidays to take time off but encountered issues upon returning.
Tracy P. Wilson [02:29]:
"I had gotten all of the Unearthed ready to go and then the plan was that I would return to the office on the 6th of January..."
However, she admits to forgetting her prior work, leading to a fresh perspective that unveiled humorous typos and inconsistencies.
Tracy P. Wilson [02:54]:
"Like when I typed Walrus Ivory as Walrus Ivy, which I found very funny."
A significant portion of the discussion revolves around the difficulties in accurately representing complex historical topics, such as the domestication of maize. Tracy found certain research findings too convoluted to include effectively.
Tracy P. Wilson [04:08]:
"There was some research about the domestication of maize, and I just couldn't figure out what the results were even going to the original paper."
The core of the episode's discussion centers on Petra, an archaeological marvel frequently associated with the "Indiana Jones" franchise. Tracy expresses frustration over media headlines that oversimplify Petra by linking it predominantly to the film series, thereby overshadowing its historical significance.
Tracy P. Wilson [05:37]:
"So I think, like, I absolutely understand that the role of a headline writer is to write a headline that will get people to read the thing."
Tracy P. Wilson [05:43]:
"Some of the headlines that were about this read like, Indiana Jones filming. Like Tomb found at Indiana Jones filming Location."
Holly empathizes but points out the challenge in encapsulating Petra's essence without resorting to pop culture references.
Holly Fry [05:57]:
"But I think that I don't know how you would shorthand what Petra is in a headline that would make people understand what it is."
The hosts delve into creative brainstorming, contemplating show ideas inspired by their discussions. Holly introduces an imaginative concept:
Holly Fry [09:58]:
"I kind of want there to be like this. As soon as I saw that in your outline, my brain was like, there needs to be, like, a TV series called Miscellaneous 19."
This segment highlights their playful approach to content creation and their enthusiasm for integrating historical nuances into engaging formats.
Transitioning to personal stories, Holly shares her excitement about finding long-sought sewing patterns featuring adorable koala siblings.
Holly Fry [17:22]:
"I was going to go make. And I, I... It's not in my clutches yet. It's gonna come, like, it's on the way tomorrow while I'm out of town on a business trip, but it's coming, and then I'm gonna make."
Tracy relates this to a broader narrative of searching for childhood stories, drawing parallels to a Substack piece about a 40-year quest to find a forgotten story.
Tracy P. Wilson [20:30]:
"This is really reminding me of something that I read while I was out on the break, which was a story about somebody trying to find a story they had read when they were a child."
Towards the end of the episode, Tracy provides personal updates, including her intentions to watch "The Six Triple Eight" movie and balancing household responsibilities with leisure activities.
Tracy P. Wilson [22:10]:
"So at some point I will watch it, but I still have not."
Holly and Tracy also tease upcoming episodes, including a "Saturday classic" and fresh content slated for Monday, ensuring listeners stay engaged with future content.
Tracy P. Wilson [23:53]:
"We'll be back tomorrow with a Saturday classic. We will have something brand new on Monday."
The episode concludes with warm wishes for the new year and reminders for listeners to stay tuned for upcoming content, reinforcing the hosts' commitment to delivering enriching historical narratives.
Tracy P. Wilson [23:53]:
"I hope the new year is treating everyone well."
Key Quotes:
Tracy P. Wilson [02:54]:
"Like when I typed Walrus Ivory as Walrus Ivy, which I found very funny."
Tracy P. Wilson [05:43]:
"Some of the headlines that were about this read like, Indiana Jones filming. Like Tomb found at Indiana Jones filming Location."
Holly Fry [09:58]:
"I kind of want there to be like this. As soon as I saw that in your outline, my brain was like, there needs to be, like, a TV series called Miscellaneous 19."
Tracy P. Wilson [20:30]:
"This is really reminding me of something that I read while I was out on the break, which was a story about somebody trying to find a story they had read when they were a child."
This episode offers a transparent look into the intricacies of producing historical content, highlighting the balance between accuracy, creativity, and personal passion. Holly and Tracy's candid conversation provides listeners with an authentic glimpse into the dedication behind "Stuff You Missed in History Class," making it both informative and relatable for those interested in the nuances of podcast creation.