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Robert Boyle came up in our recent episode on modern inventions that are actually old, because I mentioned an old thing and said Robert Boyle didn't start messing around with that for a while. That made me want to do an episode on him. But then I ended up doing the heartlib episode first because that gives extra context to the kind of situation that was going on in England at the time regarding science and science clicks. And now here we are at last ready for the Robert Boyle of it all. Boyle is sometimes called the father of modern chemistry. There are other scientists that get called that, though, like Antoine Lavoisier that we've talked about before. Boyle is more frequently described as the first modern chemist, which is kind of closer to accurate, but his work encompassed a lot more than that, including being a founding member of the Royal Society. He also wrote a lot of religious tracts and he was a product of his time. So get ready, because that means some of his ideas were just flat out super yucky.
Tracy V. Wilson
Robert Boyle was born January 25, 1627 in County Waterford, Ireland. He was born in the family home, which was Lismore Castle. His father was Richard Boyle, 1st Earl of Cork, who purchased that home, again being a castle, from Sir Walter Raleigh in the first years of the 1600s. Richard is credited with repairing, renovating and revitalizing the 12th century property that had fallen into disrepair. Robert was the 14th of Richard Boyle's 15 children, which he had over the course of two marriages. Robert's mother was Catherine Fenton, daughter of Ireland's Secretary of State. When Robert was born, his father wrote in his diary, quote, my wife, God ever be praised, was about 3 of the clock in the afternoon of this day and the sign in Gemini, Libra safely delivered of her seventh son at Lismore. God bless him, for his name is Robert Boyle. Robert was christened a week later at Lismore's chapel and there was a huge party to celebrate.
Holly Frey
Yeah, I didn't include it in these notes, but I did read a very kind of charming and illustrative note in some of Robert's writing about his family dynamic and how his brothers were treated versus him, because he was the last son. And he was saying, you know, even though the oldest son might inherit all of the property, the youngest son gets all of the love. And that certainly seemed to play out for them. Yeah, that huge party that they had to celebrate his christening was one of many large social Events that happened at the castle when Robert was young. The Boyle family, due to their status, was constantly busy with guests, arranging marriages for their many children, et cetera. But Robert, who was called Robin by his family and his siblings also got a lot of time outdoors. And they ate what he described as a, quote, coarse but cleanly diet. The luxuries that they experienced were not a constant, but they were saved for special occasions. And this kind of approach to their upbringing was all intended to make sure that the children were hardy and resilient. Robert's mother died of tuberculosis when he was 3 or 4. Different sources report both of those ages, but basically when he was still very young, his father, the Earl, was present in his children's lives. But it seems as though most of the time that they had was spent with tutors and nannies and other staff. At the age of five, Robert was assigned his own personal valet. But though there had been a very big focus on this idea of like country living, that would ensure that Robert and the other kids in the family grew up to be healthy and strong. As Robert matured into adulthood, he actually had a lot of health issues and he's often described as having been pretty frail. Among other things, he developed kidney stones at a very young age. Usually that's something that would onset later, but he got them when he was still a child. He also had very bad vision from the time he was quite young, and so a lot of time was spent trying to preserve what vision he had.
Tracy V. Wilson
Robert started attending Eton College at the age of eight and he was a good student, so dedicated to learning that teachers had to stop him from reading so much in the hopes of not further damaging his eyesight. He was at Eton for three years and then was taught privately at the family's Stallbridge estate in Dorset, England, first with the Reverend William Duche and then with a French tutor named Isaac Marcom. When Robert was 12, he and his older brother Francis, who was 16, began a tour of Europe that was customary for adolescent boys of wealth. This was a multi year affair and the boys were accompanied by Marcom, so their education continued. During their travels, they were mostly based in Switzerland. They stayed at a home in Geneva and then they would make trips out to other places from there. Robert was abroad for almost six years for this tour, but his brother Francis had to return home earlier in 1642, as the ongoing conflict between Catholics and Protestants escalated in Ireland. Richard Boyle was English by birth. This was really an English family that had moved to Ireland. The family were Protestants and by that point Francis would have been 19, so he would have needed to defend the family's holdings in the event of an attack. There's a whole context here of like the English colonization of Ireland.
Holly Frey
Yes. Which we have talked about before. So I was like, I don't know that we need to retread all that.
Tracy V. Wilson
We don't need to re explain the whole thing.
Holly Frey
Again, my understanding too is that even though his brother Francis went back, their home was never attacked. Like, he never actually had to do any of that defense that they were worried about. But in addition to furthering his education, including the acquisition of a very high degree of French language proficiency, you'll read a lot of accounts that basically say that Robert Boyle was so fluent in French that French people thought he was French. There was also a very significant event that happened during this time in Boyle's life where he was taking his years abroad. He wrote about it later when he was 21. At that point he penned a third person autobiography titled An Account of Phileratus during His Minority. Uh, we're gonna talk a little bit more about this third person conceit of this biography on Friday. But in it, Boyle described a stormy night in Geneva that happened when he was 13 and how it changed his life. He wrote, quote, and Philarides is his stand in name, like the name he gives to the character who is obviously him, quote. But during Phileratis residence at Geneva, there happened to him an accident which he always used to mention as the considerableist of his whole life. To frame a right apprehension of this, you must understand that though his inclinations were ever virtuous and his life free from scandal and inoffensive, yet had the piety he was master of already so diverted him from aspiring unto more. That Christ, who long had lain asleep in his conscience, as he once did in the ship, must now as then be waked by a storm. For at a time which being the very heat of summer, promised nothing less about the dead of night that adds most terror to such accidents. Philoratus was suddenly waked in a fright with such loud claps of thunder, which are oftentimes very terrible in those hot climes and seasons, that he thought the earth would owe an ague to the air, the long continuance of that dismal tempest where the winds were so loud as almost drown the noise of the very thunder the and the shower so hideous as almost quenched the lightning ere it could reach his eyes, confirmed Philaretas in his apprehensions of the day of judgments, being at hand. Whereupon the consideration of his unpreparedness to welcome it and the hideousness of being surprised by it in an unfit condition made him resolve and vow that if his fears were that night disappointed, all his further additions to his life should be more religiously and watchfully employed. The morning came and a serener, cloudless sky returned when he ratified his determination so solemnly that from that day he dated his conversion, renewing now he was past danger. The vow he had made so the
Tracy V. Wilson
storm scared him so badly that he pledged to become an ardent Christian. A lot of people have moments like this in their lives. Something happens, you feel like you're committing yourself to something.
Holly Frey
For a lot of folks, please God, get me through this.
Tracy V. Wilson
Yeah, whether it's religion or something else, like for a lot of folks, though, that kind of fades away. But Boyle stuck to that promise for the rest of his life. While he was already interested in science before this event, his newfound religiousness shifted his approach to science. As he grew up, he pursued science always as a means to show the marvels of the natural world as the work of God. One of the ideas that Boyle wrote about over the years was this concept that the universe is a huge machine. Everything in it functions as a component of it, down to minute particles that are differentiated by shape and motion. In his religious worldview, this was a mechanism that had been carefully designed by a higher power.
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I hate to say it, but I
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Holly Frey
We got clear facts. Maybe we could calm down a little. NBC News brings you clear reporting. Let's meet at the Facts. Let's move forward from there. NBC News Reporting for America. At the age of 17, Robert Boyle finished his travels, but he did not return to Ireland. Instead, he went to London and he stayed with his sister Catherine for four and a half months. From there he moved on to Dorset, England, where he had a family estate that was the manor of Stallbridge that he had inherited upon his father's death in 1643. While there was a great deal of turmoil in play at this time that impacted the aristocracy in regards to their land holdings, Boyle's property was safe. Other people in similar situations were having their estates seized by the parliamentarians. But Boyle's sister Catherine, who had become Viscountess Ramla when she married Arthur Jones, had good relationships with members of the parliamentarians, which had helped ensure that Robert would get and keep his inherited land. Boyle wrote of this advantageous relationship. This way, quote, he reaped also a collateral advantage by it, which was that a sister in law of lady ran law who was with them in the house and was wife of one of the principal members of the then House of Commons, brought him into the acquaintance and friendship of some great men of that party which was then growing and soon after victorious, by whose means he got early protection for his English and Irish estates at Stahlbridge.
Tracy V. Wilson
Boyle started his life's work in earnest, studying science and theology in parallel. In his autobiography he wrote that, quote, he applied himself with great vigor to his studies of various kinds, particularly those of natural philosophy and chemistry. He had already spent a lot of time studying ancient languages so that he could study religious texts in their original languages. This is also when he started writing seriously about religion and ethics and he wrote the autobiography that we've already mentioned. He also started a series of scientific
Holly Frey
experiments and when Boyle first got to Stallbridge, he wrote his sister a very long letter. He includes it in that autobiography. And that letter concluded, quote, my stay here, God willing, shall not be long. This country being generally infected with three epidemical diseases besides that old liger sickness, the troop flux, namely the plague, which now begins to revive again at Bristol and Yeovil, six miles off, fits of the committee and consumption of the purse to which so violent expulsives, if so potent and attractive as a letter from you were, but added, it would both extremely sweeten the stay and accelerate the departure of your most affectionate brother and humble servant. So he basically thought England was not cool. But his time at Stallbridge was not short as he had hoped. He ended up living there more than a a decade.
Tracy V. Wilson
In 1647, Robert Boyle became acquainted with the Hartlip Circle, which we covered just recently. And it was through the chemists in the group that Boyle started to think about doing his own chemistry experiments. He wrote of this quote, his acquaintance with Mr. Samuel Hartlib began very early, and he included several letters that he wrote Hartlib in this autobiography to illustrate their ongoing relationship. The two men bonded over both science and religion, and Boyle referenced writing of Hartlib's friend and collaborator John Durie on that subject. In May of 1647, Boyle wrote a letter to Dory encouraging his efforts to bring Lutherans and Calvinists together, stating, quote, it is strange that men should rather be quarreling for a few trifling opinions wherein they dissent than to embrace one another for those many fundamental truths wherein they agree and it is in this letter to Hartlib that Boyle mentioned that the information he had received from Hartlib gave him something to do at Stalbridge, where he was kind of lonely and bored. Quote, as for me, during my confinement to this melancholy solitude, I often divert myself at leisure moments in trying such experiments as the unfurnishedness of the place and the present distractedness of my mind will permit me, which when once my vacant intervals of time will give me leave to blot paper with and make some short discourses and reflections upon, you may with all the services you shall be pleased to command their author confidently expect from your most affectionate friend and humble servant.
Holly Frey
Yeah, so just in case that's unclear, he's like, thank you so much for those materials you sent me. That's gonna help me in the experiments I wanna try. And whatever I find out, I'm gonna send back to you for circulation in the circle.
Tracy V. Wilson
So, yeah, he very convenient. With my big empty house, I have lots of space for doing experiments.
Holly Frey
I'm bored and I can do activities. Another person that became highly influential in Boyle's intellectual life also entered it during the Stallbridge years. That was physician Nathaniel Highmore. Highmore was educated at Oxford, and at one point he had cared for members of the royal family. He wasn't the regular royal surgeon. It was like an instance where at least one member of the family had gotten quite ill when they were traveling, and he happened to be the nearby doctor. By the time Boyle met him, Highmore had set up a private practice in Sherburne, a little more than seven miles west of Stallbridge. Highmore was a leader in the medical field. In anatomy in particular, he is often described as an anatomy pioneer. He is credited with being the first person to describe in writing the maxillary sinus and the part of testicular anatomy that separates the testicles. Highmore and Boyle became very fast friends. So much so that when Highmore published his book the History of generation in 1651, he dedicated it to Robert Boyle, writing, quote, to the Honorable Mr. Robert Boyle, son to the Right honorable the Earl of Cork, my much honored friend, noble sir, where virtue shall be found in conjunction with nobility and such black the last and worst times, it no less invites and amazes the eyes and hearers of beholders than some new star or blazing comet, but with the difference. The one is cause of their fear, the other gives life to their hopes and joy. You have, sir, so enriched your tender years with such choice principles of the best sort and even to admiration managed them to the greatest advantage. That you stand both a pattern and a wonder to our nobility and gentry.
Tracy V. Wilson
Along with the land he had inherited in England, Boyle also had land in Ireland. During the two years that ran from 1652 to 1654, he was frequently in Ireland, but that didn't slow down his scientific work. He had also begun years earlier to attend get togethers of the group of men who would come to be known as the Invisible College. That's a name Boyle is credited with coining. Through these meetings and the relationships he developed, it became well known that Boyle was working in a number of areas, but especially chemistry, and that he was recording a lot of information in his home lab.
Holly Frey
Yeah, he definitely garnered a lot of respect through this, and you'll often even see him described as the center of the Invisible College. In 1654, Boyle had just returned from Ireland to Stalbridge and he was at that point invited to join the University of Oxford. Dr. John Wilkins, who was an Anglican clergyman, a natural philosopher and the warden of Wadham College at Oxford, had offered him a position there. And for Boyle, who had been working on his own out in the country, London had started to look really quite appealing. So in 1655, he left Dorset. The move to Oxford put Boyle in close proximity to many intellectuals, and he soon fell in with a group of them that includes very familiar names. Among them were John Locke and Christopher Wren. The men started meeting at Boyle's home and dubbed themselves the Experimental Philosophy Club. And Boyle's scientific work also got a huge boost in this move because he was able to set up a laboratory in High street and fill it with a full staff. This enabled Boyle to do more experiments and to publish a lot of information, and his lab became a hub of new discoveries that propelled the entire European scientific community forward.
Tracy V. Wilson
One of the members of Boyle's staff was his assistant, Robert Hooke. Boyle had shared information with Hooke about an air pump that had been developed in Germany in 1654 for creating a vacuum for scientific experimentation. But the German design wasn't ideal and it had performance issues. Hooke solved these problems with his own version of the pump, which he developed in 1659. The Hooke model worked consistently and opened the door for an array of experiments. He worked on projects that examined the functions of vacuums, air pressure and combustion, as well as others. In 1660, Boyle published his new writing based on this work, New Physico Mechanical Touching the Spring of the Air and Its Effects. A second edition was published in 1662 with additional notes.
Holly Frey
And in this work, Boyle described the Inverse relationship between the pressure and volume of a gas at a constant temperature. He described this only as a hypothesis that was based on data that he collected from an experiment. But that idea would eventually be recognized as Boyle's Law. Today, Boyle's original description is a little difficult to recognize as that law of inverse relationship that students are taught about today. This kind of interesting way that he described it was discussed at length in this 1999 paper by John B. West, which was published in the Journal of Applied Psychology. West writes this of Boyle's work, quote, the original presentation of what we know as Boyle's Law has several interesting features. And then west outlines these interesting features. The first being that Boyle was using a very long J shaped tube. It was two and a half meters long, which made the whole experiment of trying to like measure gas and volume a little bit tricky. Additionally, the numbers that Boyle recorded look really nutty to modernize because his calculations led to some wild fractions. Like you'll see things listed as a number with 10, 13 of something and 1823. Because while the concept of decimals to represent fractions less than the number one had been used in Europe already during the 17th century, they weren't common and they weren't standard practice. Fractions were really the style of the day when it came to notation. And the other odd thing that west notes is that the two numbers that needed to be compared to see that relationship between pressure and volume were included in Boyle's writing in two different tables. So a reader trying to understand and grasp the concept have to look back and forth between them, which is just not very efficient. And again, it was a hypothesis. It wasn't like he was saying this was a for sure thing. But this concept was described by Boyle as an experiment and his observations, as we said a moment ago, it only later came to be known as Boyle's Law. And we have to note too that Boyle and Hooke get credit for this. But they were not the only scientists trying to understand the property of air and gases. Several other scientists arrived at similar conclusions around the same time, including English physician Henry Power, English mathematician Richard Townley, and French physicist Edme Mariotte. So while Boyle is often called the first modern chemist, his most significant and enduring contribution to science is also something that is a physics concept. I feel like I learned Boyle's Law in physics before it ever came up in chemistry.
Tracy V. Wilson
I think I did too. We'll talk about the founding of the Royal Society and beyond, but first we'll take a quick sponsor break.
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We got clear facts. Maybe we can calm down a little. NBC News brings you clear reporting. Let's meet at the Facts. Let's move forward from there. NBC News reporting for America. The same year that the first edition of New Experiments Physico Mechanical was published, the Royal Society of London for Improving Natural Knowledge was founded on November 28 at Gresham College when Boyle and 11 other men in his circle met after a lecture given by Christopher Wren. Wren was also one of the founders. This official founding brought together a few separate but overlapping kind of casual circles of natural philosophers. By the way, the word natural philosopher just means scientist. They just didn't have the word scientist yet. And all of these men had started meeting as far back as the 1640s because a big part of what brought them together was the writing of Sir Francis Bacon, who had put forth the idea of the scientific method and this concept of establishing a set of rules for conducting experiments and collating data and, you know, making things all work in a way that everyone in the field could understand. So with the founding of this formal group, it was possible to then set scheduled meetings and also to seek a royal charter. And that meant that they would have a right to publish. Robert Hooke's book Micrographia was one of the group's earliest publications. In 1665, the periodical philosophical Transactions of the Royal Society was launched. That of course continues today. I have used it a lot in research. It is the world's first scientific journal and that means it is also the longest running.
Tracy V. Wilson
Boyle's next book was the Skeptical Chemists, which was published in 1661. The full title of that is the Skeptical Chemist or Chemical Physical Doubts and Paradoxes Touching the Spagyrist's Principles, commonly called hypostatical as they are wont to be proposed and defended by the generality of alchemists, whereunto is premised part of another discourse relating to the same subject. This is a scientific work, but it is presented as a fictional discussion among five characters. The whole thing takes place in a garden and the characters all debate various matters that were being debated throughout the scientific community, including alchemy. He wrote it in this unusual style to help people who were not scientists understand these ideas. In the preface he states this quote. I have endeavored to deliver matters of fact act so faithfully that I may as well assist the less skillful readers to examine the chemical hypothesis as provoke the spagyrical philosophers to illustrate it, which if they do, and that either the chemical opinion or the peripatetic or any other theory of the elements differing from that, I am most inclined to shall be intelligibly explicated and duly proved to me.
Holly Frey
Yeah. In case anybody didn't know, we're not getting into it a whole lot here. Robert Boyle believed in alchemy and thought you could transmute metals, which we'll talk about a little more towards the end of the episode. Throughout all of this scientific work, Boyle continued to write religious works as well, and he published numerous Christian essays. He also bankrolled projects that published the Bible in multiple languages. So he paid for the translation and the publication in. And this work in the promotion of Christianity led him to a leadership position with the Company for the Propagation of the Gospel in New England. This organization, which still exists today as the New England Company, which is a grant giving charity, was founded in 1649 originally to send missionaries to the New England colonies to evangelize the indigenous population there. Boyle was made that company's governor in 1662.
Tracy V. Wilson
In 1668, Boyle, who was then in his early 40s, concluded his time at Oxford and moved to London. He lived there with his sister, Catherine Jones, Viscountess Ranelagh. This was in part so that he would not be living alone, as his Boyle's health was not especially good. His sister had separated from her husband, so he also provided her with companionship and the two of them were well known and popular in London society. In his new home, Boyle was able to assemble an ideal setup for his work with a full laboratory and staff. But his popularity caused some problems. He had so many visitors dropping in to chat that it interrupted his work. He had to make a sign to put on the door when he was busy with his experiments to let callers know that it was not a good time.
Holly Frey
Yeah, between him and his sister, their house was like a social hub in London. Everybody wanted to just pop by and it was like, oh, no, I'm in the middle of moving air around. That move to London also enabled Boyle to regularly meet up with many of the most influential thinkers of the day. Once he was living in London, he was then at the Royal Society's epicenter and he could be more fully involved in the organization and attend those regular meetings. He was asked to be the group's president in 1680, but he declined.
Tracy V. Wilson
Both Robert and his sister Catherine were ill in the autumn of 1691. Catherine died on December 23rd of that year. This death devastated Boyle and he became even Sicker immediately after the loss. He died eight days later on December 31. The brief time between their deaths meant that Robert did not have time to update his will, which listed Catherine as one of the executive and the principal beneficiary. This was very clearly a matter of him entrusting Catherine to use her judgment regarding his life's work. In one section of it, he wrote, quote, I give to the said lady Ranela all my manuscripts and collections of receipts, beseeching her to have a care that they or any of them come not into the hands or perusal to any to whom. She thinks that if I were alive, I should be unwilling to have them communicated.
Holly Frey
I sort of love that. Don't give these to people I don't like. You know, you know who they are,
Tracy V. Wilson
you know who they are,
Holly Frey
you know who's on the list. He also left his collaborator and former assistant, Hook, meaningful tools of their shared trade. Quote I give to Mr. Robert Hooke, author of Micrographia, now professor of mathematics in Gresham College, my best microscope and my best lodestone.
Tracy V. Wilson
One of the bequeathments that is still in play today was a sum of money to set up a lecture series to examine the relationship between science and religion. The Boyle lectures started out with what would today be a very narrow and problematic focus. It was about proving Christianity to atheists and people who practiced religion other than Christianity. Over time, the lectures have taken on a more progressive worldview.
Holly Frey
Yeah, if you look at a list of these lectures from early on, they're not cool.
Tracy V. Wilson
Yikes.
Holly Frey
Yeah, it's yikes on bikes. And there was actually a little gap from the 60s to, I think, 2004 when they started back up again, but they are still ongoing. In addition to that lecture series bequest, there were also directions for missionary efforts in North America. Boyle wrote, quote, I had set apart, among other things, the sum of 401 for certain pious uses. And whereas his late majesty King Charles ii, having by his special grace and favor without my seeking or knowledge, been pleased to constitute me governor of the corporation for propagating of the gospel amongst the heathen natives of New England and other parts of America, hath thereby given me opportunity to discern that work to be unquestionably pious and charitable. And whereas I have given and paid the sum of £300 toward that piety, I do hereby give and devise the sum of £100 more to the said corporation, though by reason of sickness and infirmity, I have resigned the office of governor to be set aside and employed as a stock for the relief of poor Indian convert, which I hope will prove of good effect for the advancement of the pious work for which they are constituted, and which I heartily pray him whose glory of the work itself tends unto, and I hope the persons entrusted with it aim at, to give them a prosperous success. Yuck. So he was one of the earliest Europeans to really throw their support behind this idea of converting the indigenous peoples of North America to Christianity and assimilating them into white communities, which, as we have discussed many times on this show before, created so many problems for indigenous people that are still being felt and sorted out today.
Tracy V. Wilson
One of the most touching passages in the will, which also leaves some mysteries, is about a ring quote. I give and bequeath unto my dear sister, Lady Catherine, Viscountess Ranelagh, a small ring usually worn by me on my left hand, having in it two small diamonds with an emerald in the middle, which ring being held by me ever since my youth in great esteem and worn for many years for a particular reason not unknown to my said sister, the Lady Rannala. I do earnestly beseech her, my said sister, to wear it in remembrance of a brother that truly honored and most, most dearly loved her.
Holly Frey
We don't know that. Meaning that they shared about that ring. We have no idea. We also don't know where that ring is. Oh, she had passed at that point, so she couldn't take possession of it. And no one has ever found it. It hasn't ever appeared on, like, any kind of inventory of, you know, somebody's holdings or a museum. I think the prevailing opinion is probably that he was buried with.
Tracy V. Wilson
I was gonna ask if. If he buried it with her.
Holly Frey
No, he willed it to her. He wore it until he died.
Tracy V. Wilson
Right.
Holly Frey
Eight days later. So I was thinking.
Tracy V. Wilson
But since he didn't have time to update his will when she died, did he bury it with her?
Holly Frey
I doubt it, but I could be wrong. Nobody knows. It's possible. We don't know. But both Catherine and Robert were buried close together in the chancel of St. Martin's in the field. Robert had specified that he wanted a simple funeral quote without the least pomp. The sermon for that service was given by the Bishop of Salisbury.
Tracy V. Wilson
One of the most interesting legacies of Boyle is his scientific wish list. This list was drafted in the early years of the Royal Society, and it features two dozen concepts that in some instances seem wildly outlandish, but in other words, others sort of prescient. It's a good illustration of how long we've been chasing certain dreams and ideas and how far we've come in fulfilling those ideas. Some of the things that we have managed to do include the prolongation of life. We have made some progress here since Boyle's time, although there's a whole separate discussion about life expectancy versus lifespan and how long people actually lived in the past past. Like how much of this is about deaths in childhood. All of that. All of that's outside the scope of this episode, though. There's also the recovery of youth, or at least some of the marks of it as new teeth, new hair colored as in youth. The art of flying, the practicable and certain way of finding longitudes. Potent drugs to alter or exalt imagination, waking memory and other functions and appease pain, procure innocent sleep, harmless dreams, et cetera. Cure of diseases at a distance, or at least by transplantation and the making armor light and extremely hard.
Holly Frey
Yeah, that's stuff we figured out for the most part. I mean, there's lots of things we could still do, but.
Tracy V. Wilson
Yeah. I'm wondering what he meant by cure of diseases at a distance.
Holly Frey
I don't know. But we did get the transplantation thing mostly figured out there.
Tracy V. Wilson
We did get transplantation. I know there are various kind of New agey things that are about sort of healing other people at a distance with your mind and is that what he was about?
Holly Frey
I don't think so, but I don't know. Some of these don't have any notations. If you look at the list, it's just a list. There's not like the things that he writes. Some of his items on the list are longer than others, but it's just the list. There's no additional notes. There are some things we have not yet managed to achieve.
Tracy V. Wilson
Right.
Holly Frey
The art of continuing long underwater and exercising functions freely there. This ties into the next one, which is the emulating of fish without engines by custom and education only. So the idea that you could just learn how to hang out underwater if we could just, you know, crack the code. A ship to sail with all winds and a ship not to be sunk. We have certainly managed to create ships that operate without need of wind, but not that are unsinkable. Less easy to sink than they used to be, but not unsinkable.
Tracy V. Wilson
Yeah, we do have things like scuba gear now, but you gotta have the gear. You just can't think your way into staying underwater indefinitely.
Holly Frey
I'm gonna learn. I'm gonna go to living underwater school. I'm gonna learn all the ways there
Tracy V. Wilson
Are also some things on this wish list that are kind of debatable in their achievement or they're just problematic. There's the transmutation of metals, for example. That's certainly part of Boyle's interest in alchemy and this desire to create precious metals from non precious ones. We can sort of do it today with particle accelerators or nuclear reactions, but the expense of doing that, that is way more than the amount of gold you can produce that way. There's freedom from necessity of much sleeping, exemplified by the operations of tea. And what happens in Mad Men, that has some issues as well. We do have stimulants that they can stave off sleepiness. But the idea of figuring out what makes people with mental illness unable to sleep and then harnessing that. That to make you able to stay awake, that's tricky and troubling, really. Also, no matter what stimulant you might use short term, your body ultimately needs to sleep. We know there are a lot of problems that come from not getting sleep. Similarly, Bole also wanted to study the, quote, strength and agility of the body that people with epilepsy and quote, hysteria appeared to exhibit. So there are some interesting goals and ideas in this list. It's overall kind of a mixed bag.
Holly Frey
Yeah, it's interesting when you read a lot of biographical sketches of him, it's a lot about the cool ones.
Tracy V. Wilson
Oh, sure, sure.
Holly Frey
Not much mention of the, like, whoa, he wanted to do what? With what? I'm not saying any of that is okay, but I will give him the modicum of grace that comes with writing this. In the 1660s, when we did not really understand various diseases, mental illnesses, et cetera, the way we do now. Just the idea that you could harness the things that, like, I'm air quoting this so hard, the beneficial parts of having any of those is really creepy to me. But Robert Boyle, I really wanna know what the deal was with that ring. What did it mean between the two of them? It could be a scandalo, but he's really interesting. The thing that is funny is that of all of the experimenting he did, none of his stuff really remains in play except for Boyle's Law, which was kind of just like a footnote. I think it appears in the appendix of that second edition. Oh, yeah. And the rest of it was a lot of work. And he did bring people together, which is important. But it's kind of fascinating to me that he is this very important person in science history. But, like, what he achieved in science is not all that much in terms of yeah, it's more like he helped people with the concept that we could keep moving forward and keep trying new things. Also, again, do not go looking for that list of lectures if you are not ready to be grossed out by the titles of those lectures saying very disparaging things about other religions. They are yucky. But that is Robert Boyle.
Tracy V. Wilson
Do you have some listener mail for us also?
Holly Frey
I surely do. Let me pull it up here. Listen, this listener mail is not about history at all. Okay? But I love it. I just want to talk about it. I have other history ones I'll talk about, but this is from our listener, Tiffany. The title was Demon Cats at the Vet.
Tracy V. Wilson
Oh yeah, I read this. I liked this email a lot.
Holly Frey
Listen, I had some kinship feelings with this email, which is why I wanted to read it. Tiffany writes, your behind the scenes discussion about cats at the vet had me giggling. I had a cat named Kitty who was infamous for terrorizing any medical professional. We would warn the techs and vets that they had approximately 15 seconds from the opening of the crate until bloodshed, so they needed to come prepared. Bless our vet for always being so willing to treat her. Despite this, her file received the designation of having a comically large red stop sign on the front of it, along with several bright red tabs running down the side, indicating that she was not to be handled. One time my husband took her to the vet and a new tech looked at the repeated warnings and said, I'm a cat whisperer. It'll be fine. My husband pleaded with the tech to get the gauntlets and wait until everybody was ready, but to no avail. She opened a crate and the inevitable happened. As the tech was heading to Urgent Care, my husband was falling all over himself to apologize for our demon cat. I have had this exact moment. The vet, who was now in the room trying to defuse our angry cat, held up the giant and I mean giant stop sign on the chart and shrugged, saying, we can't make the stop sign any bigger. I miss that evil cat dearly, for as much as she was a terror to everybody else, she was my special cuddlebug for pet tacks. I've attached a picture of her cuddled up with our retired greyhound in one of their many shared naps. This was the picture that made me realize that we somehow had ended up with the pets from the Simpsons. Thank you for all you do, Tiffany. They do. They have Snowball and Santa's Little Helper right there. I love it. You could have written this about Mr. Burns. Same exact thing sent a tech to the error destroyed some drywall in the vet's office. I felt so bad, but my vet was the same. Although my vet got to the point where I had some training on how to handle some things at home rather than endanger her staff.
Tracy V. Wilson
Yeah, yeah.
Holly Frey
Cause Mr. Burns would also fight with one of our other cats sometimes. It never got crazy crazy, but there were sometimes some scrapes and cuts. Although Mr. Burns also had the best injury that made him look super street tough, but he did it to himself, which is he had a split in one of his ears, but it was because he was scratching one day and his claw got hooked in it and I swear he just looked at me and shrugged and yanked it the rest of the way and was like I guess my ear's split now he's also my baby. I love this kitty is amazing. I understand. I understand the bad cat that is your barnacle special baby. I just wanted to honor that today. So cute. Listen, Cats Animals. I feel like both of our cats have probably gone down in history and those texts are probably telling their friends right now about the horrible animals they had to deal with. But they make for good stories. So thank you Tiffany for writing. If you would like to write to us about your poorly behaved animals in solidarity or anything else really, you can write about history stuff. You could do that at history podcast at iHeartradio. If you want to see the show notes from the episode, they are available@mystinhistory.com for any of the episodes we have done. If you have yet to subscribe to the podcast and you want to do that, that is easy as pie. You can do it on the iHeartRadio app or anywhere you listen to your favorite shows.
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Episode: Robert Boyle
Date: June 3, 2026
Hosts: Holly Frey and Tracy V. Wilson
Podcast: iHeartPodcasts
This episode explores the life and legacy of Robert Boyle, renowned as the “first modern chemist” and a pivotal figure in the founding of the Royal Society. Holly and Tracy dive into Boyle's upbringing, his influences, scientific achievements, religious beliefs, and his enduring (and sometimes problematic) legacy—highlighting both his contributions to science and his role in missionary work.
Conversational, thoughtful, sometimes wry (“yikes on bikes,” “I'm gonna go to living underwater school”), and always candid about the positive and negative aspects of Boyle’s impact.
Holly and Tracy present Robert Boyle as a groundbreaking but complex historical figure. His legacy is a mix of scientific advancement, enthusiastic collaboration, and deeply problematic missionary zeal—all set against the backdrop of the 17th-century scientific and religious landscape.