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Rhiannon Joyce
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Madison Addison Sullivan Thorpe
This is Stylish, the podcast for all things fashion, business, beauty, and lifestyle. What is that place for? Rhiannon?
Rhiannon Joyce
You said business instead of brand.
Madison Addison Sullivan Thorpe
Whoa.
Rhiannon Joyce
But that's okay.
Madison Addison Sullivan Thorpe
That's Friday's quarter. I'm your host, Madison Addison Sullivan Thorpe. I am joined by my lovely Joanna Fleming and Rhiannon Joyce. Happy Wednesday.
Rhiannon Joyce
Happy Wednesday.
Joanna Fleming
Happy Wednesday.
Madison Addison Sullivan Thorpe
Look, I know we have a format that we usually sort of follow and that we like to end with, but I need to get something off my chest. I am obsessed with off campus. I am sick. I have never been this obsessed with anything.
Joanna Fleming
I've seen this advertised, I think. Can you give me a little synopsis?
Madison Addison Sullivan Thorpe
I would love to do nothing more.
Joanna Fleming
I haven't watched it.
Madison Addison Sullivan Thorpe
I. Quite a big synopsis.
Joanna Fleming
Go on, then.
Madison Addison Sullivan Thorpe
If you want to feel the feeling of what it felt like the first time you ever fell in love, watch off campus. Like, this show is on Amazon Prime. I am obsessed. I'm sick. All good men are written by women. We know this by the summer I turn pretty. We know this by this look. Conrad walked so that Garrett Graham could fucking sprint. Like, this guy is that hot. Like, from now on, people are like, oh, what's your type? That it is that if you see me at a hockey ring every weekend, you know why?
Rhiannon Joyce
Like, guys, the energy in the room is palpable. Like, Joe and I.
Madison Addison Sullivan Thorpe
And I just made eye contact.
Joanna Fleming
Like, is she okay?
Madison Addison Sullivan Thorpe
I've got the sweats. Like, if I was, like, at a buffet, like, it's unbelievable. I binge watched all eight episodes. We went up to Sydney last week, did a stylish Calvin Klein event in the evening. I. I was, like, at dinner with this. Like, yeah, yeah, yeah. Ready to grab. Ready to wrap it up. Ready to wrap it up. All I could think about for probably the last half an hour of dinner was getting back to the hotel quickly, having a shower, and getting back into bed to keep watching it.
Joanna Fleming
Mads, if you don't get an Amazon prime partnership after this, something's wrong.
Madison Addison Sullivan Thorpe
I just have to say, like, it got me thinking, though, because I haven't been into a TV show for such a long time. Although I do love Landman also, I think.
Rhiannon Joyce
Yeah, but you love Landman. But that the way you just pitched for this show was like nothing I've ever seen. I haven't seen this level of excitement from you about a TV show since the summer I turned pretty. Like, you're like jazzed up.
Madison Addison Sullivan Thorpe
Yeah, jazzed up, jacked up. Whatever, whatever. My whole thing about this show and what I loved about it was, I think it's been a long time since I've just let myself probably like I did with the summer I turned pretty, but because they were drip feeding, it was like that one hour a week, I just let myself not want to be productive. Like, I feel like everything this year is like being about more efficient or being smarter or trying harder. And I'm like, I just minced on the couch and I was like, what a joy. What a little pocket of happiness. And it got me thinking about, like, all those happiness non negotiables that you have. And I was like, maybe my happiness non negotiable is that I'm going to give myself permission just to do the thing that's not efficient or productive and
Rhiannon Joyce
just fucking binge the TV show. Enjoy it.
Joanna Fleming
I love having a little show. I love having a little show. How devastating is it when your show finishes and you're like, what am I going to do next?
Madison Addison Sullivan Thorpe
I've already started rewatching it. Have you? Yeah, last night I just chucked a little Epigone.
Rhiannon Joyce
I haven't watched it yet. Everyone is talking about it.
Madison Addison Sullivan Thorpe
My point is, like, those little happiness non negotiables, what are yours like? Is there something that you're like that you're either doing or that you want to do that's like your little. What gets you jazzed and jacked?
Rhiannon Joyce
What gets me jazzed and jacked? I quite like that. J and J buzzed and jacked. Oh, my God, mine is so boring. Do you know what? Can I give you a recent one? That isn't something I do all the time, but last week really stirred my inner child. I was at the airport flying to Sydney and there is a little Pop Mart vending machine there. Have you seen this at Melbourne Airport?
Madison Addison Sullivan Thorpe
No, I have.
Rhiannon Joyce
And Pop Mart is the brand that famously launched Labubus and all these other little, I don't know, like collectible figurine things. So I just stopped and had a little look and I was, you know, perusing going, oh, I was a big Powerpuff Girl fan when I was younger and they had their own iteration of the Powerpuff Girls that are like these little keychains and they have like the big eyes and are exaggerating. They're like a crybaby range. So I went, you know what? I'm gonna spend 22 bucks. I'm gonna buy one of these little Powerpuff toys, and I hope I get
Madison Addison Sullivan Thorpe
the one I want.
Rhiannon Joyce
I didn't. But the process in of itself was really joyful and fun. And, you know, I was on a work trip. It was, like, quite high pressure going to Sydney. And I took this five to ten minutes to serve my inner child. And it brought me so much joy.
Madison Addison Sullivan Thorpe
So that's mine.
Joanna Fleming
Good on you.
Rhiannon Joyce
Serve your inner child. So it doesn't have to be that specific, but that's. That's my tip.
Joanna Fleming
That's cute.
Sponsor/Announcer
What's yours?
Joanna Fleming
Mine at the moment is that I found a fondue kit at the back of the cupboard that I got probably for my 21st or something. It was like a Maxwell and Williams one, and you put a little tea candle in the bottom of it, and you melt chocolate in the top. And we've just been cutting up strawberries to watch our show at night and dipping the strawberries into the fondue and just having it with malted chocolate. Okay.
Rhiannon Joyce
Max Brenner. Do you remember going there when you were younger?
Joanna Fleming
I'm not even joking. There's a Max Brenner at High Place, which is, like, near my house, and I genuinely have been to Max Brenner recently because of it.
Rhiannon Joyce
You've reignited the flame.
Joanna Fleming
Yes. I love it. I love the waffles at Max Brenner.
Rhiannon Joyce
So you could combine Maddie's little moment and your moment and make a super moment.
Joanna Fleming
100%. That is my super moment. Every night is having a show and my little fondue.
Madison Addison Sullivan Thorpe
Do you know what I think at the core of all of this? It's remembering that we're adults with free will.
Rhiannon Joyce
Yes. And happiness. You can, like, lean in.
Joanna Fleming
Yeah.
Madison Addison Sullivan Thorpe
You truly can. Like, last Monday, I was at dinner with a girlfriend of mine, and she was like, what an ice cream? And I'm like, it's Monday night. And she was like, we're actually adults. We can drive to get an ice cream. So we did.
Rhiannon Joyce
I frequent yo chi work once a week.
Madison Addison Sullivan Thorpe
I love it there.
Joanna Fleming
Love it.
Rhiannon Joyce
I'm the oldest person that don't care.
Madison Addison Sullivan Thorpe
It's like a club in there.
Rhiannon Joyce
It's great.
Joanna Fleming
And you're the only one not on a date.
Rhiannon Joyce
Well, I'm always with Lou, so technically date night.
Madison Addison Sullivan Thorpe
Oh, nuts.
Rhiannon Joyce
Thanks for bringing a little moment of happiness.
Madison Addison Sullivan Thorpe
That's all right. I can't recommend it enough, obviously.
Joanna Fleming
Really? Is that your swap for today, or can we skip you? Oh, okay. You want to go?
Madison Addison Sullivan Thorpe
You know, there's more to go. Well, what a build.
Joanna Fleming
What do we.
Madison Addison Sullivan Thorpe
Are we gonna talk about what we're talking about on today's episode?
Rhiannon Joyce
Yeah. Yeah, sure.
Madison Addison Sullivan Thorpe
You want me to do that?
Rhiannon Joyce
Well, I'm looking at you going, yeah, well, while you're here, I feel like
Madison Addison Sullivan Thorpe
I've spoken a lot. Today we have a trend report directly from our boots on the ground. Journalism from none other than Naima and Annika, who attended Australian Fashion Week. We were the media partner. We were small little clap for the team there.
Rhiannon Joyce
That's very much small little clap from my team, Emma and G, because they spearheaded a lot of that.
Madison Addison Sullivan Thorpe
Whoop, whoop, raise the roof.
Rhiannon Joyce
And Esther in socials, who's executed so much good stuff, so much good stuff coming out of the stylish team.
Madison Addison Sullivan Thorpe
Well done. Well done, stylish team. Honestly, I'm so excited for this. We've got some little sound bites to hear. We haven't heard them yet, so I'm quite excited. Then we're going to talk about celebrity partnerships and there is one that is on my mind. Sabrina Carpenter.
Rhiannon Joyce
Bit of recency bias there, man.
Madison Addison Sullivan Thorpe
Maybe a little bit.
Rhiannon Joyce
So fair, though.
Madison Addison Sullivan Thorpe
She's everywhere.
Rhiannon Joyce
Everywhere.
Madison Addison Sullivan Thorpe
And she deserves to be right now. But first, we'll get into the swap. I will save mine for last because I was naughty and brought a bonus swap.
Rhiannon Joyce
Well, you do that every week. We all do that every week. It was more that you said it so emphatically with so much passion that it was justified. Yeah.
Madison Addison Sullivan Thorpe
Thank you for giving me this whole pass.
Joanna Fleming
Yeah.
Rhiannon Joyce
Okay, Jo, you can go first.
Joanna Fleming
Okay. Mine is for the girlies that travel a lot or create content or just need better bathroom lighting. You're going to hit all three of these with this particular product, which I purchased last week. And these are the full lume lights. Now, these are like a strip light with a. What do you call it? A suction cup on the back.
Rhiannon Joyce
So there's like two suction cup sticky phones.
Joanna Fleming
Yes, yes. But it's a light. And so I bought two of them because I'm about to move house and I'm not going to have my usual lighting set up for filming content in my bathroom, which is very precise. It's in, like, my cupboard and everything. So I needed something that was going to stick to the mirror. And I'm not going to have a lot of storage, which is in the bathroom, which is going to be a little bit problematic, but we'll deal with that. Anyway, I bought these full loom lights and they have, like a temperature setting. They have. You can, like, turn up the intensity of the light. As well. And if you need something that you can take traveling, there's no cords. It's just rechargeable. You just stick them to the mirror and you've got perfect lighting.
Madison Addison Sullivan Thorpe
Watch your fucking back, James Charles.
Rhiannon Joyce
I was thinking Alex Zell, that light.
Joanna Fleming
He didn't refer to me as James Charles right now, please.
Rhiannon Joyce
Bye, sister. That's what Joe's saying to you right now?
Madison Addison Sullivan Thorpe
Absolutely not. Sorry.
Rhiannon Joyce
I'm going to go with the Alex Zell comparison.
Madison Addison Sullivan Thorpe
I don't know, it's a fact.
Rhiannon Joyce
Ray, what's yours? Okay, mine sounds random but bear with me. I was traveling last week. I was staying in a hotel. I'm notorious for sleeping terribly when I'm in a hotel. Like I have to make a lot of little changes to my sleep routine. I have to have the shades down, but only so there's like a slither of light because I do like natural light when I wake up. And I find in hotels you can almost. It can be too dark and then I wake up feeling really discombobulated and like, where am I? Yeah. I also take ages to get to sleep, so in the hotel. I stayed at the Eve in Sydney and they had this Acari deep sleep tonic. It is so good and it's like straight from the sachet. Shove it in your mouth. I think you're actually supposed to put it in water but I just swapped it out like, oh, okay.
Joanna Fleming
I think Annika swapped this in.
Rhiannon Joyce
Has she swapped in? She has.
Madison Addison Sullivan Thorpe
Bloody unreal. Ree had told me all about it and so I was like so excited to have the wind down service at the Eve to try this. It's unbelievable.
Rhiannon Joyce
So good. It tastes a little strange. Like I don't know what was the flavour of it. You and I were going through the ingredients and it was almost like a.
Madison Addison Sullivan Thorpe
It has like a lavender sort of
Rhiannon Joyce
taste to it, but it's a bit licorice. Y. I can't remember exactly. It's gonna. It won't come to me, but when it does, later in the shower, randomly, I bet that's annoying. But I use them back to back each night so much. So the third night they gave me two because they were like, clearly this girl loves this product. So I got two and I was stoked. I've also just ordered a pack as well for when I'm traveling overseas because I'm going in like three weeks. So I'm set. I'm obsessed with them. Okay.
Joanna Fleming
Yeah, great way to sell you into a product while you're staying there.
Rhiannon Joyce
Great strategy because you're trialing that sampling
Joanna Fleming
ele with that and you're like, oh,
Rhiannon Joyce
okay, now I'm sold.
Madison Addison Sullivan Thorpe
100% agree on that. I think that is just like sampling 101. Also, I really like their hand wash and lotion. I have that in my bathroom.
Rhiannon Joyce
I have that in my bathroom as well. My mother in law bought it for us for Christmas. It's got. If you don't like coriander though, you will not like it because the coriander smell is like quite potent.
Madison Addison Sullivan Thorpe
Are people still on the I hate coriander thing?
Joanna Fleming
Yes, unfortunately, my own husband.
Rhiannon Joyce
I feel like people are really, really passionate about coriander.
Joanna Fleming
Yeah.
Madison Addison Sullivan Thorpe
Yes, I'm passionate for coriander.
Joanna Fleming
Me too.
Sponsor/Announcer
I don't mind it.
Joanna Fleming
All right, next we're going to be diving into our Fashion Week trend report. But that' right after a word from today's sponsor.
Madison Addison Sullivan Thorpe
Did you want my swab?
Rhiannon Joyce
Oh, sorry, no. You're in EA1.
Joanna Fleming
Sorry, cut that.
Rhiannon Joyce
I don't think. Cut that. I didn't keep that in. What's your swap, Mads?
Madison Addison Sullivan Thorpe
Off campus playlist is so good. I'm gonna say it's better than the summer I turn pretty. I think. Cause they had Taylor. We thought it was great. The budget was not held back on this playlist.
Rhiannon Joyce
Can you give me a little teaser? Like who's headlining this playlist?
Madison Addison Sullivan Thorpe
Okay, so we have got everything from like Suki Waterhouse to like G Flip to Elton John to acdc.
Sponsor/Announcer
Wow.
Madison Addison Sullivan Thorpe
So there are some like really good ACD bangers that like, I listen to to get jazzed up, jacked up. So like that down when dancing with myself. The Bitch is Back by Elton John is like arguably the best song if you're having a shit morning to just put on and like switch the bitch. Honestly, I've had it on repeat. It's diverse, it's great, it's fun. Lady Gaga's in there, Jenny's in there. Like, I'm just. It's a diverse mix and it scratches all the right parts. So if maybe a gaping hole is left in your spirit because the series is over or you're re watching it again, chuck the playlist on.
Joanna Fleming
I'm really gonna need to carve out some time to binge this series.
Madison Addison Sullivan Thorpe
Find your pocket of happiness and get
Joanna Fleming
your fondue out, I certainly will. And next we'll be diving into our Fashion Week trend report. But that's right after a word from today's sponsor.
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Rhiannon Joyce
So boots on the ground. As you said, Mads at Fashion Week, Nymar and Arnica were our go to correspondence. I mean, Annika, shout out to her. I saw her during the week and she was just doing everything and being everywhere. And also shout out to James. The perfect dynamic and the most like they're just incredible as a couple and they had baby Poppy. They're like the way that they were just working so that Annika could do it all was amazing. So I tip my hat to both of them.
Madison Addison Sullivan Thorpe
And Ray, you were there. I mean, you looked great as well. I think we should give you a little shout out. Look after, look after look.
Joanna Fleming
It was the eyeliner. It's always the eyeliner.
Rhiannon Joyce
It's always the eyeliner.
Madison Addison Sullivan Thorpe
I didn't say it, but what did the whole table say in unison? Eyeliner. Ray, you were there when Annika and Naima were lucky enough to interview Bianca Spender. I'd love to just like hear a little bit about that because we weren't lucky enough to be there.
Rhiannon Joyce
First and foremost, both of them did an amazing job at interviewing. We were a bit thrown off because we were actually rained out, so we were supposed to have the experience live on the lawn. So that was a little bit stressful because the weather in Sydney, classic. Every single time I go to Sydney, we got rained out so we had to relocate. So fine. The girls like cool as a cucumber, took it in their stride. Just engaged so well with Bianca, and the dynamic was amazing. She is an amazing storyteller. She gave really thoughtful answers, really lent into the storytelling. She shared a lot of her inspiration and was really open and engaging with the crowd. So that was a brief summary of the chat with Bianca Spender. But what I do want to get into is Nymar has some really good insights into the street style. Because even I noticed this compared to previous years, is that everyone turned up to serve a look, not just influencers. I'm talking everyone. Like, there was such an eclectic mix. I'm really keen to hear what Naima has to say.
Annika
It was really interesting seeing a few of Annika's predictions from the last episode really be translated into the street style. But I thought everyone had, like, a really personal approach to how they incorporated the trends into their outfits, which was so fun and interesting to see. What caught my eye. I loved the fun accessories. I saw a lot of sheiling. I saw a lot of fur.
Joanna Fleming
Fur, fur.
Annika
I saw a lot of fur fringing. And we kind of saw that come across in, like, really fun jackets. So big trench coats with, you know, shearling collars. We saw big shearling bags. And then you saw a lot of fringing across that jacket and bag category as well. Suede and leather materials. I saw a lot of fun tights. So red, blue, tartan, check. I saw tights on everyone. It looked so good with, like, more of a monochrome outfit with a pop of color. It just, like, instantly I felt like, stop me in my path.
Joanna Fleming
Okay, so Annika's a clairvoyant because I surprised everything she said in the previous episode.
Rhiannon Joyce
So good to have Annika.
Madison Addison Sullivan Thorpe
How good?
Rhiannon Joyce
Having someone in the industry, it's crazy. It's like she's so on the pulse.
Madison Addison Sullivan Thorpe
I feel like I saw so much of this, lots of the bags in particular, which I know we'd spoken about integrating color and little pops during winter. I feel like I saw so much of that coming through in the street style pics that I saw from the comfort of my couch at home.
Rhiannon Joyce
I saw a lot of pop of color, especially in shoes. I really tried to lean into that as well, taking my own advice for this winter period. But it was also the sequence for me both on the Runway and also in the street style. Like, people are really embracing sequins. It adds a really nice femininity to it. I really like it.
Madison Addison Sullivan Thorpe
Yeah, I remember. I think it might have been. Naima said something to me about six months ago, like, oh, you're such a sequence girl. And I was like, me? No. And then I was like, wait, I do love the sequin.
Rhiannon Joyce
I always find your sequins on the ground when we're out at events. Like, hey, you drop one.
Madison Addison Sullivan Thorpe
Where is she? Yeah, literally follow the yellow brick road. There was also a bit of a pants style we saw everywhere.
Annika
I saw a lot of capris. I know Annika predicted that too, but I saw it a lot in that kind of like black lycra exercise style back with heels and cool leather bombers. I really love that silhouette that I saw everywhere. It was kind of that, like, nice little juxtaposition. Speaking of bombers, I saw a lot of leather bombers everywhere. But what was fun about this year is that we saw it in lots of colors, not just black. So I saw a lot of reds, deep greens, dark blues. I love that, like, injection of color with something that is quite, like, trusty jacket shape that we've seen quite a lot already this year.
Joanna Fleming
The capri is everywhere. I don't know if I can do a Capri, but I love it on other people. I saw two creators the other day at the same event. They're both wearing the Glassons capri pants in a different colour and they both looked phenomenal in them. But then I was like, how would that look on me? I don't know.
Madison Addison Sullivan Thorpe
I don't know that I can do it. But I like two people that I've seen it on and adore it is Jackie Alexander and Adele Petropoulos.
Joanna Fleming
Yeah, Adele was literally. Saw her wearing the pants.
Madison Addison Sullivan Thorpe
Perfect. I mean, Hailey baby's been wearing them for like a solid year. I feel like this has, like, been in her wardrobe DNA and we're seeing it come through. But I like it when it's done with like an oversized bomber or something so that it doesn't feel like, I
Rhiannon Joyce
don't know, the contrast of shapes.
Madison Addison Sullivan Thorpe
Yeah.
Rhiannon Joyce
Tight and a bit loose.
Madison Addison Sullivan Thorpe
Do you think you could do a capri wreath?
Rhiannon Joyce
Unfortunately, I don't. It's not that I don't think I could do them. I just. I'm like more of a barrel leg, pant kind of girl. Like, if I was to do a crop sort of style, I would opt for that barrel leg or I'd go like a wide leg or. Honestly, I'm a low rise girly. I see myself getting more into the Skinny Jane trend than anything else, to be honest, that if that was to come back.
Madison Addison Sullivan Thorpe
Wow, that is a wild. Yeah. I mean, Annika did say while we're in Sydney that the skinny Janie is back.
Rhiannon Joyce
She did. So, yeah, I could see myself embracing that more than the Capri. I want to just come back to Naima's point around people wearing tights. I was lucky enough to attend the Nagnada show, and a few creators who were there and also people in the industry were styled. I wasn't styled by Nag Nada, but I was really curious to see how they were going to nail those looks, because Nag Nada, if you don't know, it's an activewear brand, but they really specialize in creating all of their products with natural fibers and they use majority wool. So when I arrived, I was pleasantly surprised to see a lot of the girls really embracing their styles in a way that actually looked like you could wear it out. And the way that they were able to dress up these outfits and make the activewear look like it was, like, ready to wear was really inspiring. And I, hand on heart, would have assumed coming into that, I was like, oh, how are you going to do that? Like, that just feels a little bit like it's forced. But it wasn't. All the girls out the front, they looked amazing.
Joanna Fleming
So this is creators or people.
Rhiannon Joyce
This is creators who were attending. So they were obviously styled and wearing the Nagnada pieces, but they were also wearing them with their own wardrobe. So I think the intersection of being able to, you know, wear pieces from the collection, but then also bring their own personal style into it, it was really, really cool.
Joanna Fleming
Yeah, they do really cool stuff.
Rhiannon Joyce
I love, love Nagnotta.
Madison Addison Sullivan Thorpe
So there is a Melbourne personality. I guess I'd call her a personality. Her name's Shirin Politano. And if there were like five wardrobes, I Melbourne, I would probably want to get into hers. She did, like this really cool, waxy, almost like mustard open trench coat that she had, like, quite undone with this incredible pointe shoe, which we know how I feel about a pointe. After we had our square toe, and I absolutely loved that look.
Rhiannon Joyce
I was actually really into a lot of the Vogue team's outfits. I was really following along their social series, how they were capturing shows. I just thought they all looked really cool. Obviously, they would have been working a lot on site, so there was an element of practicality in a lot of their outfits as well, which I really respected. Given that they're industry people, it was less about dressing up for the cameras and more about dressing up to show up and do their job. But they looked cool.
Madison Addison Sullivan Thorpe
Gladys looked unreal.
Rhiannon Joyce
Unreal.
Joanna Fleming
Can I just give an honorable mention to someone that didn't mean to attend Fashion Week. But
Rhiannon Joyce
my king.
Joanna Fleming
Okay, so for those that didn't see it, there was a man that walked onto I don't know what beach.
Rhiannon Joyce
It was Commons. It was Tamarama, which is in the eastern suburbs of Sydney. Yes.
Joanna Fleming
So the fashion label Commerce chose to hold their fashion show on the beach at Tamarama.
Rhiannon Joyce
Tamarama beach, yeah.
Joanna Fleming
And this guy, it's literally in the middle of a fashion show, and he's like, you know what? I don't care that it's the middle of the Runway. I'm going to also use these stairs.
Rhiannon Joyce
Do you know what?
Joanna Fleming
Fair game.
Rhiannon Joyce
Because it is a public space. So it was. I kind of understood where he was coming from. And then the best part was I saw a video posted by Violet Grace on TikTok, and she's filming him, like, stretching in the water, and it's got the overlay of that sun. I'm fucking crazy, but I'm free.
Madison Addison Sullivan Thorpe
And I was, like, losing it. It was so funny. I actually loved nothing as much as all the people who were there. Kind of just lent into taking footage of him. Maggie's out. Also had a video and was like, my point of view. And I was like, I just love that the TikTok phenomenon just kept building. Like, what a king.
Joanna Fleming
I think everyone saw an opportunity and they were like, oh, this would be good on TikTok.
Rhiannon Joyce
And comments got a lot of earned media out of that, so they'll be very, very happy. Although they weren't talking about the show, but coverage is coverage.
Joanna Fleming
I think at the time, they would've been like, oh, my God, what is going on? But then as they started to see it blow up, they would be like, actually, this is probably good.
Rhiannon Joyce
Yeah, perfect moment to lean in. Speaking of shows, who did we love?
Madison Addison Sullivan Thorpe
Look, I have a very soft spot in my heart for Tony Matichevsky. I think he's just done the most incredible job making really beautiful sculptural pieces over the years. He hasn't shown at Australian Fashion Week for years, and I thought his show was spectacular. Another designer, Mariam Siddiq, she had the most insane black strapless dress. And it was almost like. It was like if tinsel and fringing had a baby. And she did this beautiful, like, neck piece that matched it as well. That dress was insane. I don't know where I'm wearing it, but I need it. And I then will find the occasion to wear it. I believe in that.
Joanna Fleming
I was really pleased to see, as well, like, such a big turnout for Australian Fashion Week because it was looking like we weren't going to have a fashion week like was 12 months ago now.
Rhiannon Joyce
Gosh, I think the last update we gave on that was earlier this year when it was announced that the Australian Fashion Council was technically like saving the day when it came to, you know, hosting and like putting the funding behind the actual event itself.
Joanna Fleming
And in this economy, it's lucky that that actually happened and that this event was still able to go ahead and we're able to celebrate the local designers that we do have in Australia, which are phenomenal.
Rhiannon Joyce
One thing I do want to talk about, and I did see this at a few shows, again, I only attended Nag Nada, but I did follow up with a lot of the press and coverage of all of them. I say I was quite disappointed with the lack of body diversity across the runways. There is a long way to go despite incremental growth. And I will say that I would say the age diversity and also the ethnicity diversity at the shows that I at Nag Nada was very good. And more broadly speaking from what I saw in press releases and images that followed. But yeah, there's still definitely work to do.
Joanna Fleming
Okay, next we are discussing how celebrities use partnerships with designers to shape their image. But that's right after a word from today's sponsor.
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Madison Addison Sullivan Thorpe
Look, if you are new to this podcast, you will not know if you are a regular. You will be very well aware that we love nothing more than we love discussing partnerships on this podcast. Whether it's celebrity and brand pairings, whether it's product placements in TV shows, on movies, you name it. We're obsessed. And I chucked this in our Slack channel this week because we saw none other than my little pineapple princess, Sabrina Carpenter in that beautiful yellow sheer drop waist dress at the Dior 2027 Cruise show by none other than Jonathan Anderson, who we now know is the creative director at Dior. Did you both see this before I dropped it in the slack or was I new news for you?
Rhiannon Joyce
I did see it before you dropped it in the slack because it actually featured on the Runway and everyone was making a big deal about the fact that she was wearing something that was actually being shown, which is not something that brands usually do. So I thought that was an interesting, strategic move, obviously to generate a bit of buzz about the collection as well. But also I really like that they were styled very differently.
Madison Addison Sullivan Thorpe
Yeah. And this whole show was really a love letter to Hollywood and the power of dreams and illusion. And WWD put that so succinctly, like, it was the perfect way to describe everything this show was. And if we take these two as a pairing, I think it's very safe to say that in the last sort of 12 weeks, Sabrina Carpenter is very much playing into this Hollywood, you know, whimsical world of dream and illusion. What is no secret to anyone following me on social media or anyone who listens to this podcast. I did go to Coachella, a big Sabrina Carpenter fan. The world that she created was very much in this vein. I mean, the whole set was called Sabrina Wood. It was old Hollywood references. It was dances and theater and all of the things that are whimsical and like illusionary. Don't know if it's a word. We're going to go with it.
Rhiannon Joyce
We'll just go with that. But it reminded me of like a Broadway set. Like to see that at a. At an event like Coachella, which usually you have artists on the opposite end. You've got Justin Bieber, who's very much depending on himself and his laptop. It's rare that.
Madison Addison Sullivan Thorpe
And YouTube.
Rhiannon Joyce
And YouTube. Sorry, YouTube. YouTube came out great in that.
Madison Addison Sullivan Thorpe
It's.
Rhiannon Joyce
Yeah, it's rare that you see people really invest so much in the set, maybe the dancers and like the stage production itself, which Beyonce has done. But it felt like this year that was like what everyone was talking about completely.
Madison Addison Sullivan Thorpe
And look, Sabrina Carpenter is now a very high profile ambassador for Dior. And what you might not know is that all of the looks From Coachella Weekend 1 and Weekend 2 were custom Dior looks. Each of the outfits in weekend one and two were the same, but different colors. So, you know, I think weekend one, she wore the red dress. Weekend two, it was a blue version of it. She did black. Weekend one, she did white. Weekend two. So, you know, this is the start of, like, quite an interesting partnership. And I don't think we've seen one to this scale in quite some time because she then was at the Met. I'm really invested in this. Clearly she was at the Met Gala in Dior by Jonathan Anderson. Wrapped in film. What did we call it? Film tape.
Rhiannon Joyce
Film tape. I think that was the most literal example that we've seen of a nod to Hollywood.
Madison Addison Sullivan Thorpe
Yeah, completely. And she works really closely with her stylist, Jared Elnor, who also styled Emma Chamberlain for the Met Gala. So it's interesting, right, because Emma Chamberlain's look, I would say, was one of our favourites.
Rhiannon Joyce
I would say it was best by far.
Madison Addison Sullivan Thorpe
But very different world that he's creating for the two of them. And I do think Sabrina's leaning really heavily into Dior's world, or Dior really leaning heavily into hers.
Joanna Fleming
There's a lot of storytelling that's matching up here for me between Dior and Sabrina and their separate brands and entities.
Rhiannon Joyce
It's symbiotic. I feel like they've come together as a team. Yeah.
Joanna Fleming
I don't know what that is, where
Rhiannon Joyce
he's doing something coming together. I'm just like putting my fingers together.
Madison Addison Sullivan Thorpe
I'm now doing it.
Rhiannon Joyce
It feels quite good. It's a brand's ultimate dream where it feels so authentic and so genuine. To your point, Jo, you absolutely bang on. The storytelling feels really obvious, but also like really strong.
Joanna Fleming
Yeah.
Madison Addison Sullivan Thorpe
Can I ask you, is there like an artist? And when I say artist, I mean movie star, model, celebrity, singer, you name it. That when you think of a brand, you think of the person or you think of the person, you think of the brand.
Rhiannon Joyce
Okay, I'm going to go back in the archives and maybe this is because Sabrina Carpenter did perform with her at Coachella, but Madonna, I felt like back in the day she was the best in class example when she partnered with Versace. So they actually had a long running partnership from 1995 all the way through to 2015. That is seriously, seriously long standing. She also partnered with. Who was it? Jean Paul Gaultier.
Madison Addison Sullivan Thorpe
Do you remember that?
Rhiannon Joyce
But again, it also feels like very symbiotic in a way where the brand and the person like, come together and it makes the most sense. More recently, I can't really think of anyone.
Joanna Fleming
Mine is Harry Styles and Gucci.
Rhiannon Joyce
Oh, my God. Yes. That is such a good example. I was literally racking my brain being like, who is the best in class example of this lady?
Joanna Fleming
Think about Harry Styles pre 2018. So he started working with Gucci in around 2018 and that was really what gave him his fashion credibility. Like think about his evolution from One Direction days and how much they helped to evolve his image. Yeah. And that was obviously, like, mutually beneficial because he's in the zeitgeist. He's very popular. He gives them this in with a certain audience, and I feel like that was just so beneficial for both the celebrity and the brand.
Rhiannon Joyce
It's the eccentric ness of it as well. Like, I think about Harry when he was performing, you know, it was the big, oversized glasses with the diamantes. It's the feather boa, like, that made the sense.
Joanna Fleming
Yes.
Madison Addison Sullivan Thorpe
Yeah. I'm gonna do two. One is a throwback, and it's Elton John, ironically, with Gucci, as well. I think about him in those sunglasses, and, like, he is just. I mean, also the bitches back. Play it again off campus. We're back here. We are, like, it is uncanny to me, that relationship. The other one is Dua Lipa and Versace.
Joanna Fleming
Yes.
Rhiannon Joyce
I would say Dua Lipa and Jacques Moose more than Versace.
Madison Addison Sullivan Thorpe
Okay. I challenge you that. That's a, like, dead tie. Yeah. I put five iconic Dua Lipa looks in my head. Three of them are Versace.
Rhiannon Joyce
Okay, that's so fair. That's so fair. And she did do the Runway with them as well. I think I maybe have a bit of recency bias with this. And also, I just love Shark Moore, so maybe I'm also projecting that to the front. But that's a good point, Mads.
Madison Addison Sullivan Thorpe
Yeah. Do you know who I think, from a creative standpoint, always did this really well was Alessandro Michelle, who was at Gucci and, like, famously got them to that dizzying high that they've been chasing ever since. And I think we're sort of seeing him try and do it again at the moment, because he's at Valentino now, and he has been doing it with Somber. So Somber is now one of the faces of Valentino, wore them to the Met Gala, has been wearing a lot of their pieces in front of their campaign, which I'm a little bit sad by, because I really thought Saint Laurent should have just came and got him for, like, their kind of leather and, like, I don't know, they do lots of leather and bombers and oversized. And I think it, like, really suits his, like, rockstar aesthetic. But I really like what Dior are doing, because I do think Dior have synonymously been a little bit more for the established, elevated woman. And I think by doing it with Sabrina, who is in her early mid-20s, is kind of, like, the equivalent of getting the Harry Styles. It's trying to maybe from her team. It's helping her grow up a little bit for their team. It's helping them grow down a little bit.
Joanna Fleming
She's also a lot edgier, I think, than a lot of other partners that they've had previously in various categories that they work across. But, like, obviously her music is a little bit more, like, sexy, and it's not really their vibe or historically has been their vibe. So I think it's helping to give them a little bit of an edge as well.
Rhiannon Joyce
Yeah, it's interesting as well, because this does feel premeditated. Even though we're seeing a lot of this right now off the back of Coachella, I actually want to read a quote that goes back all the way to when Anderson actually did his first Runway. So Elle actually reported. Anderson's debut collection has ushered in a period of creative reimagining, marrying Dior's deep heritage with modern, witty accessories and cinematic Hollywood inspired Runway collections. So this feels so prevalent right now, but he's clearly set his collection and this new era of Dior out with the intention of it honoring this old Hollywood. I want to know when he was like, sabrina, you're my gal. Like, you're the person who's going to be embodying this and transcending us to that next iteration. Do you think it came first or do you think he had Sabrina in mind all along?
Madison Addison Sullivan Thorpe
I think he had her in mind all along. I see all these memes that's like, this is what happens when you give the theatre kid budget. Love her or loathe her. The level and scale of her productions are kind of unmatched right now. Like, it really is creating a world. And I think Jonathan Anderson is so known for creating a world. You look at Loewe and everything he built and transformed them into in terms of sensorial and playing with fruits and vegetables and, like, building out these things. Things so much so that, like, people take a photo of, like, you know, a perfect tomato in, like, a trash can, and they're like, it's giving Louisville. Like, he's built this entire universe that I think he's trying to do with Dior and has more scope to do it now because the house has more heritage and. And he's bigger by nature. I think he saw Sabrina and was like, you're also creating worlds.
Rhiannon Joyce
Yeah. This is really random. And I want to know what you guys think about this, because immediately when you're saying that, Mads, my mind was thinking about Alex in Wonderland. Like, I feel like he sees her as like, his Alice.
Madison Addison Sullivan Thorpe
Yes.
Rhiannon Joyce
And can create worlds with her and like, she's got that real. Like, she's just got such an incredible buzz and energy about her right now. And it seems like to me that her as a person and how she's moving through her career is that she's not afraid to push and not afraid to do more. It's like the craziest, the better.
Madison Addison Sullivan Thorpe
Yeah. And I quite like that because it's funny. It feels like her aesthetic is evolving, but it's not changing the way that maybe other female pop stars have felt they've had to.
Joanna Fleming
Yeah.
Madison Addison Sullivan Thorpe
It is interesting though. I did make this comparison at Coachella and I'm keen to get your thoughts. Katy Perry. She reminds me a lot of Katy Perry's era of, like, California Girls, where it was like big production and theatre. And I do wonder how this will continue to evolve and not fall into perhaps the way Katy Perry fell into it.
Rhiannon Joyce
It feeling a bit kitsch or a bit like. Yeah, that's an interesting point, Mads.
Joanna Fleming
I haven't even thought about that longevity of this and like, how does this evolve from here? Where do we go?
Rhiannon Joyce
Do you know what I would do if I was a big hot shot celebrity and pop star?
Madison Addison Sullivan Thorpe
I've seen you in a character picture at a Red Hot go.
Rhiannon Joyce
I could never be a pop star because I lose my voice so easily. It's a really sad quality. I think about it all the time. I'm not kidding. But anyway, I digress. I think it's the kind of thing where you go really big and then you almost like pull away entirely and go back to your roots and you bring out the acoustic guitar and like,
Madison Addison Sullivan Thorpe
your voice will do the work.
Rhiannon Joyce
Like, I think there's that in it. And that's where I think her and Katy Perry will differ, is that. And no offense to Katy Perry, but I think in terms of like, their voice being super strong, I think Sabrina is known for having like a really, really good voice. Kind of like Ariana Grande. Whereas if you strip it all back, same with Billie Eilish. It's like strip all the production back and everything. The voice will really come through. I feel like that's a direction I could potentially see her going down, where it's like, hey, I've done all this and now I'm going to strip it back entirely.
Madison Addison Sullivan Thorpe
Yeah, it'll be like a Grammys performance of her just in a great dress with a spotlight kind of vibe.
Rhiannon Joyce
Who do you guys think benefits more from this? Do you think it's the brand or do you think it's the person, the celebrity, I should say.
Joanna Fleming
I think it depends on the individual case because. So Fashion House can really give a celebrity a lot of credibility, but vice versa, a celebrity can give a brand a lot of relevance. So I don't know. I think it depends.
Madison Addison Sullivan Thorpe
I'm really torn on this one. It's a really good question and an answer just does not come to my mind in this instance because I don't know that Sabrina Carpenter's core demo are gravitating to Dior. I think they may be watching and I think there's adjacencies they're doing. Like Jake Shane being there is a real choice. I don't think an Internet personality like him would have been at a house like Dior's front row at their show 10 years ago. And I think we're seeing it with Chanel having more fun. They're having more fun. I don't know. I think this is Jonathan Anderson just trying to shake Dior's little box and hope that, like a bit of fun falls out.
Rhiannon Joyce
Yeah. I think the diversification of faces at a house is smart because you are appealing to different demographics and Dior hasn't gone and isolated, you know, a huge portion of their audience by associating with Sabrina Carpenter and Jake Shane to a smaller capacity in that influencer space. I think it's strategic and I think it's smart because that audience will grow with you. As you said, Mads, in this instance, I think both Sabrina and Dior benefit mutually in this scenario. There are other examples where I'm like, oh, the brand definitely is piggybacking it, probably in a less luxury capacity, but more so. Zeitgeist skims always comes to mind where they're very locked into the zeitgeist and very much leading with. With who is cool and who is trendy and who is relevant right now. And I think they've done a really good job at identifying that early on and then subsequently being able to benefit from that. However, it doesn't have the same amount of longevity and I feel like you have to keep cycling through that.
Joanna Fleming
Yeah.
Rhiannon Joyce
Otherwise you're not able to maintain that relevancy. Whereas more of the luxury houses seem to be going like that long term play where it's like, we don't want a celebrity alignment feeling like a flash in the pan. We want it to feel like it's long standing.
Madison Addison Sullivan Thorpe
Yeah. And I think we see that a lot. We've got Miley, that's had a long standing relationship with Saint Laurent, Anne Hathaway her long standing relationship with Valentino Garavani, the founder of Valentino. Like, we have seen these more long standing ones, but I'm just excited to see fashion houses changing the playbook a little bit. To speak my truth. I wouldn't be shocked if we saw Sabrina Carpenter in a Misty or campaign.
Rhiannon Joyce
That feels right, that feels theatrical, that feels. That's what I want to see. I love old school fragrance ads. I feel like this. Sorry, I got really excited off campus.
Madison Addison Sullivan Thorpe
Here she comes.
Rhiannon Joyce
I really want to see that, Mads.
Madison Addison Sullivan Thorpe
Yeah, I think we're seeing more of it. Like, you know, Margot Robbie and Jacob Elordi in the Chanel fragrance. Like, we're returning to those sort of ads. I love them. They're like a touch of nostalgia, but they still kind of work in the current media landscape.
Rhiannon Joyce
I think the celebrity muse is back.
Joanna Fleming
2016 is back, allegedly. So, yes, we're there, guys.
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Rhiannon Joyce
Thanks so much for joining us, guys. Thanks for bringing the lulls and bringing the energy. We really came up off strong with Mads in her off campus wrecked. It was.
Madison Addison Sullivan Thorpe
Honestly, it was palpable.
Rhiannon Joyce
I think if you're listening to this, you're probably already watching the show. Thank you, guys. I'm excited, Mads. We'll be back when? We'll be back Friday, recording. We will be back Friday for our fortnightly Friday episode. Don't forget, guys, you can email style-ishameless media.com or sign into our DMS over at Stylish Pod. Also, don't forget to leave us a review. I know we dropped that into the episode last week, but we would still like you to continue to support us by review reviews. That's how we grow. That's how we continue to be in your ears every week.
Madison Addison Sullivan Thorpe
Yeah. And it also inspired me to go on Google. And I actually left three Google reviews for my favorite place to get coffee, my local dry cleaner, and a restaurant that I went to recently and loved because I was like, no, it is really nice when you leave a review on something you love.
Rhiannon Joyce
Fun fact about me, I'm a big Google Reviewer. Big. Mostly 99 positive, always.
Joanna Fleming
That's a character arc, I reckon.
Rhiannon Joyce
Oh, yeah, I love it.
Madison Addison Sullivan Thorpe
Do you know, I did think when you were saying the Pop Mart thing that I don't know if you shared on this podcast what your unexpected character arc is. I love anime. Yeah.
Joanna Fleming
Oh, I feel like unexpected, actually. Yeah.
Rhiannon Joyce
Okay. All right. Anyway, let's wrap this up, guys. Thank you to our team, Lucy Hunt
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Rhiannon Joyce
Sorry. We will be back in your ears on Friday.
Madison Addison Sullivan Thorpe
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Rhiannon Joyce
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