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A
Good morning, everyone. Hello again. Welcome to another episode. We got a really interesting question in our email. I'm just going to get right into it. We got a really interesting question in our inbox and it was all about style rules. And we thought we would dedicate an entire episode to it because there's a lot on the Internet out there I'm going to you know about style rules and all of this content can be really helpful, but this was just such an interesting take. So Sigrid, thank you so much for your email and for those of you, if you want to ask us questions like this, we get really into it on our online community and we will be switching over from patreon over to YouTube. So don't forget to check that out. We will keep you posted on how you can, how you can get more involved. But in the meantime, let's get back to this question. So Sigrid is interested to explore if any of the style rules, quote unquote, are actually timeless or just applicable to the current winds of style. Can we see these rules being applied successfully on images from fashion that was considered on point in the past? Like if we're looking at the 40s, the 50s, the 60s, and by style rules, she's thinking of things like balancing the proportions of your outfit or the wrong shoe theory, or the rule of thirds or contrasting textures, or even, even the sandwich rule for colors or like the three color rule in an outfit. Those are all of the examples and I'm sure there are more out there, but I, I just found this to be so interesting. I know we've, we've spoken about rules before, but what are your thoughts, do you, what are your thoughts on rules and what do you think about this question?
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B
I think she's, I think she's probably right that it can be kind of connected to whatever's. I wouldn't necessarily, necessarily say trendy, but like the, what is the contemporary way of dressing right now? I feel like trends are very short lived. Whereas, you know, there, there are different kinds of trends. There's also just like the contemporary, quote unquote, contemporary way of dressing, which can be stretched over years, I think. And I think, yeah, I mean I love, I love style rules. I don't necessarily like the word rules or like rule. I don't necessarily look at them as rules, but I find them to be very helpful. For example, Alyssa, you mentioned before, what is three color rule? That's not necessarily something you've heard about. And I'm like, yeah, I love that rule. So it's like, okay, you. In short, it's you. You stick to a total of three colors in an outfit. And for me, I think it's a nice way to polish off my looks if I feel like something is a little bit off or if it's. If it feels a little bit all over the place. So I use it more as tools than I use it as rules. Really?
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C
Yeah, I think that's a better way to put it because rules sound so rigid. And, like, especially when it comes to style and fashion, it when you say rule, it assumes that that's correct. Like, that's the correct way to dress, and that's just not. That cannot be applicable to the. To absolutely everybody. So I think it's more like you say, use it as a tool if something feels off or you're not. Like, we talk about style as a feeling and going back to, you know, going, oh, it always kind of starts with how you. How you feel in your outfit versus how you want to feel, and then how the visuals in that outfit communicate that, how you create that connection. And you could use. Call them principles, call them tools, but it's not going to apply to everybody all the time. And. And rules kind of imply, again, like, that there's a right versus a wrong. And I don't think there is.
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A
Yeah, yeah, that's a really good point about the right versus wrong.
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B
And I think we've talked about that before, that we all. We always want there to be, like, a straightforward answer to things, but they're just. Your eyes might not see the same. Like if, for example, you know, I. I follow a bunch of people on Instagram who will do, like, styling do's and don'ts, and sometimes I see the difference. It's like, hey, okay, yeah, I can actually see what you did there, and it might work better. But then, you know, it's all in the eyes of the beholder. Someone else might not agree with that, because it totally depends on what you're looking like you said, Christina, what you're looking to. If you want to create more drama and tension, then you might not want to follow three color rule because it's too plain or whatever. It might be too polished for you. So I think different rules apply to different types of style personalities, and I think it's all about figuring out what kind of rules you want to have in your little styling toolkit. Having said that, I think it's nice to know what kind of tools you can lower. Like, tricks you can. You can try.
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C
Yeah, yeah, absolutely. I think it all, it all has a place at a time.
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B
Yeah.
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C
Whether or not I do agree with you, I feel like, because I'm thinking back to like fashion from, you know, 40s and 50s, I guess that's how you. That's what you would call like classic. And I think now with more, as you say, like modern contemporary styling. So for example, you know, you might do like a shirt, a skirt, a little heel and a bag. And that is all very classic and polished and everything would be, back at that time would be really tailored. It would fit well. There would be no oversized nothing. Just very, very clean. Polished. Classic. Classic is the word that comes to mind. And then now it's really. We really lean into things like contrast dressing. So if I was going to go like tailored, tailored, tailored or classic, classic, classic, I might want to try to that up a little bit with a weird shoe or a loud bag or an oversized element somewhere, and that would work really, really well today. So I think for me, I'm seeing like the leaning is way like those rules, at least for me, help kind of steer away from one feeling, like one vibe in an outfit from head to toe, if that makes sense.
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A
Hmm. I thought I was actually just pulling up some photos, like vintage fashion. I was actually pinning a couple of looks from like Italy in the 80s last night and.
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C
Oh, fun.
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B
Cool.
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A
Yeah. And like I just pulled up some, some like sewing patterns from the 60s. And what I find interesting is there are, I think there are different quote unquote rules that are perhaps more contemporary versus some that are. Are just principles of. General principles of design and art. You know, like the rule of thirds. You know, she uses the rule of thirds as an example. And I don't think that's necessarily a fashion rule. That's just literally what the eye likes to take in better. And that applies to things like architecture and interior decor, like photography. Photography. So I think.
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B
Could you explain maybe to those who don't know what rule of thirds is?
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A
Well, the rule of third. Yeah. So the rule of thirds is just literally like, rather than splitting an image, if we're looking at photography or even like anything the eye prefers things that are divided into thirds versus like a half. So it's. It's just like when you're looking at it from an outfit perspective, it's like maybe a high waist and a long hem creates an outfit that is 2/3 on the bottom and like one thirds on the top. So you're dividing your body in a way that is perhaps more pleasing visually. Love. I'm Doing this with giant quotation marked in my fingers. So. And you know, same thing with photos. Like, if you're going to hang pictures on your wall, hang three pictures. But like, there's really good photos of like, I've seen like really good images of interior decor with two big beautiful photos hanging beside each other.
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C
Or like a Wes Anderson, Like Wes Anderson is really, he's a film director. Think like, what's a Wes Anderson movie? Grand Budapest Hotel.
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A
Hotel.
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C
Yeah. So if you watch his compositions, a lot of them are very symmetrical down the middle so that he doesn't utilize rule of third, so he breaks that rule. So versus if I were to frame something in the rule of thirds, I might, if you divide it into nine squares instead of it being in the middle, like Alyssa said, it might be to one side only with a lot of negative space on the other side. So you can, I mean there's an example. You can embrace the rule or you can break it.
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A
Exactly. And I think that's, that's ultimately, I think, what it comes down to. And even, even, you know, when she's talking about a whole other different era, like the 40s, the 50s and 60s, I'm sure there were people walking around whose belt and shoes and bag did not match and like, you know, who's, you know, whatever rules were applied. Yeah. And yeah, so I just think I like how you both said at the beginning there, there are more tools, not rules. But I do think it's really cool to know them and be well acquainted with these quote unquote rules. Whether you consider them more elements of design or these just more fashion focused rules. I think they're so good to know because then you can, you can break them.
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B
It's so funny because it makes me think of like, there's like a, there's like almost like a little style war going on between millennials and Gen Z. I saw this TikTok yesterday of someone. It was, it was a woman who was putting on. Here goes me explaining a TikTok. Like you mentioned.
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A
Fringe.
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B
But there is a woman who is like putting on. She was wearing gym leggings and then an oversized sweatshirt with like a big logo on it. And the text was me trying to hide that I'm a millennial. And she, she put on like, you know those little anklet socks with her.
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C
Oh yeah, the crew sock versus the.
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B
Completely skipped those. And then she wore like high up the leg socks and stuff because apparently that's what Gen Z does.
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C
Yes.
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B
So. And it's funny because we're Kind of seeing a shift there. I think that's a great example of how, you know, the younger generations might not, you know, the rules. You know, we might have been told as millennials that that is not flattering to wear, like, a higher sock because it's gonna cut you off and your proportion makes you look.
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C
Makes you look shorter.
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B
Yeah, exactly. And the big, bulky sneakers, you're gonna look like way off balance. But it's kind of interesting to see that the younger generations are kind of mix, you know, breaking that quote unquote.
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A
Rule, if you will.
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B
So, yeah, I think there are different. Different. Probably also different tools of styling for different generations, maybe.
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C
Yeah, I think so. I think so. For sure.
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A
Yeah.
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C
Like I said, big fan of the ankle socket.
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B
Also, the whole, like, front tuck. Should I do front tuck?
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C
Oh, yeah, yeah, yeah.
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A
No, no.
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B
Something is missing. What a millennial would do. They would do a front tuck.
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A
I thought that was. I. That was hilarious.
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C
That's hilarious.
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B
That's funny.
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C
Yeah.
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A
I thought the balancing proportions question was interesting, like, because it's true. We talk a lot about balancing proportions, but also, like, my mom is the one who taught me about balancing proportions, and she probably learned that from her mom. So that's kind of like. Again, I think that that's like one of those just, like. Do you like things that feel harmonious, or do you like it when things are, like, a little bit? I don't know.
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B
Yeah. Yeah.
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A
I don't know.
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B
Yeah. Do you have any, like, styling. Yeah, I think we've probably talked about that before, but do you have any, like, that you almost use daily or that you swear by any, like, styling tools? Maybe not, you know, maybe subconsciously or.
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A
I don't know. I think the first thing I always adjust is, like, usually I just put whatever I want on, and then that's when these things come into play. So the first thing I always check is, like, the proportions. It's like, if something feels off, it's usually, for me, the proportions are off. Yeah, but that's. That's the only one. Like, I would never. I know the sandwich rule. Like, what is that?
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C
Sorry. Like, because I've seen it in a few different. I know it's like, you know, you match your top to your shoes or something.
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B
Yeah, I think that matching your belt.
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A
Your belt to the shoe or, like. Yeah. Or your top to the shoe.
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C
I thought there was another. Like, there's a new. There was a different. There's that interpretation, and I think there's something else.
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B
Oh, yeah, There's Also, I think you can do it with proportions as well. So if you're wearing oversized on the top, you can wear, like, bulkier on the bottom and then something skinnier in between. I have to admit, I know it's kind of cringe, but I kind of like that rule. Yeah, I do kind of like it, but that's because it's a fun way for me to play with proportions, but also just. It's kind of similar to 3 color rule. I feel like it's a nice way to polish off my look if I feel like, oh, something isn't matching or something is a little bit off or not, you know?
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A
Yeah, I just want. I like. I don't know. I liked her. Yeah. I don't know. Christina, is there a rule that you.
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C
Yeah, I think definitely more to proportion. Like, I'm a big fan of, like, all I keep talking about it just I'm a big fan of, like, the tibby style principles. So when we're talking about proportion, I use that big, slim skin a lot. So it's. And they kind of talk about it more like it's. It's not necess.
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B
It's.
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C
It's to create shapes and movement in the body. Not necessarily to find, like, what's most flattering, but because there's nothing wrong with going big, big, big. Just as, like, just as much as there's nothing wrong with going slim, slim, slim. If it feels good to the wearer. So this is how it feels to the wearer. So for me, I like to, you know, for. So when I'm doing it, I really like to. I, you know, I love my oversized blazer or I like a baggier pair of jeans. So that could be my big and then my slim. I usually will bring in with a shoe or like a bodysuit or a tank top. And then skin could be rolling up the sleeves. But I find I really need skin showing around my chest these days. I find, like, a more closed neckline, unless it's a turtleneck, a little bit more challenging. And I feel a bit too covered whenever I do that. So I like to bring in a lot of skin around my chest and in my shoe a lot too. So, like through a ballet flat or like a little strappy sandal or something. And that for me just gives some breathing room and doesn't make me feel so heavy because I find I have, like, I in proportion. I still think some people think I look tall. I feel like I look short and I have shorter legs and, like, they're thicker More athletic legs. So I find like, if I don't balance it out with like a slimmer shoe or have some skin somewhere, I just feel really like, condensed. And I don't feel, I don't feel like my best when I do that. So that's the principle that I use.
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B
I really like the big, slim skin also because it's like, it's not so strict because you get to decide where you want to have bigger.
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C
The big and the slim.
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B
Yeah, exactly. I kind of like that.
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C
Yeah, yeah. And if you're like fully covered, for example, but wearing like a bodysuit or like a catsuit, that can give like the illusion of skin, you know what I mean? So it doesn't necessarily always have to be. You can like, like you said, you bend the rule, you bend the principle. But I find too, like, when I really stick to style rules, it makes me feel anxious when I'm getting dressed because, like, my mind will just immediately kind of go to like, oh, what's wrong here? What's, you know, and, or this isn't right. Or I need to add one more thing because this rule says so. And I'm like, ah, it's, it's not as fun to me what I find, because I love rules and I love, you know, I love, I love the black and white binary. Easy thinking and. But it stresses me out sometimes.
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B
Yeah. I guess some days you just want to wear whatever and not. Not have to tuck your freaking top if that's not what you're.
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C
Yeah, exactly. Yeah.
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A
I wonder. I'm just looking at the question, like, are style rules timeless? And I'm wondering if Sigrid is asking the question because now there is so much more freedom in what we can wear. And so, and also with social media, like, anyone can kind of say what they want, so they're giving their like, quote unquote rules or tricks. Whereas if we look back to, you know, her question was, were these considered on point in the past, the 20s, 40s, 50s, 60s, the environment was so different.
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C
Yeah.
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A
Like, and, and also dressing was so much more prescribed. Like. Yeah, you wear these, like this silhouette is this is appropriate and this is appropriate.
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B
Yeah.
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C
And there were like a societal hierarchies and like, you know, the common person versus, like the more elite. For example, well, to do proper, like, you know, proper dressing versus common, etc. Working class versus upper class, that type of thing.
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A
And there weren't as many. And there just weren't as many options out there, you know, like. Yeah, so maybe there wasn't as much freedom. And now it's almost like we're trying to go back and be like, okay, wait, that's interesting.
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C
That's fascinating.
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A
Try this.
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B
Yeah, I like the closet full of clothes, but nothing to wear. Just like, we have too many options and we're. It's too much.
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A
Yeah. So I don't know. I wonder if that's. I don't know. I just. Sorry, that. A little bit of a tangent.
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C
That's interesting.
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A
Yeah.
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C
Because it's like almost when you have no rules, it feels too chaotic. Almost. Yeah, yeah.
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B
Yeah, that. I. I guess that's why I kind of like having the. Again, I don't want to call it rules, but then at the same time, when you say rules, people know what you, you know, they.
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C
They know what you know.
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B
They're, you know, they're effective too.
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C
Yeah.
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B
You know, so. And that's the same way I feel about color analysis sometimes. Because, you know, again, that's. That's still very much a hot topic. And I've. I've stumbled upon, like, content or like, like, yeah, I did my own. I did my own analysis. And don't waste your money on professional or just wear whatever you want. And. And it's like, yeah, it's all well and good, but what if you don't know what you want? Like, what if you don't know what you like? It's. It's good, isn't it good to have some guidance and then you can decide from there.
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C
Yeah. Because sometimes it's frustrating to like going to the color analysis thing, for example, like, if, you know, you like pale beige, but. And then every time you buy it or put it on, it doesn't feel right and you can't. You don't really know why. So then you try a different shade of pale beige, and then you try another one or you try a mustard and then.
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B
Or just another style maybe, and you're.
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C
Taking yourself in, like, the wrong direction. But it's like, it's frustrating. What I'm trying to get at is like, it's, you're. There's always this, like, sense of frustration every time you're putting something on and you don't really know what it is. So I do think that's. That's helpful.
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B
Yeah. That's where the tools can really help you.
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C
Yeah.
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B
Give you some guidance.
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A
Yeah, yeah, yeah. I think it's also like a self trust thing too. Right. Like something feels off or maybe you, I don't know, like, to your point, Christina, you're. You're looking, and you're trying to find something, and it's not working. It's almost like having someone come in and be like, this is why it's not working. And here's what you can do. You're like, oh, okay, I was right. I just needed someone to be like.
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B
And I think actually, the interesting thing is that people often know deep down. Of course, it's the same way sometimes when I have both for, like, style clients, but especially for color analysis, it's like, I don't think I've had a, you know, a client that left my studio being like, this is so unexpected. Like, I did not expect that at all. I think people know deep down you kind of just get it confirmed, and I think that's always nice, and then you can move on from there.
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A
Yeah.
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C
Yeah, for sure. But, I mean, even with that, like, I think people will, you know, once you get your colors, it's like you kind of look at it like, this is my color palette, and I can't stray outside of it at all. And these are now my rules. And then I think that's when it, like, again, it's a great, helpful guideline, but, you know, I have some lighter shades in my, like, for you, like, cena color type to me is a deep, cool, and clear. And I have some. I have warm tones in my wardrobe. I have, like. I have lighter shades rather than more saturated shades in my wardrobe, and I still wear that stuff. But, like, if I don't feel 100% in it or if it feels slightly off, I have at least a better understanding as to why. But it doesn't. I still wear it.
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B
Yeah, yeah.
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C
Just.
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B
I wear black. You know, black is not my color at all, theoretically, but I love black, you know, so.
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C
Yeah, exactly.
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B
Yeah. It's what you want from it.
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C
Oh, my God, I'm so glad that black is in my color palette.
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A
She, like, hugs her blazer to her body. Okay, cool. I don't know. So, like, what are your. I'm so curious. What are your final thoughts? Like, do you think these are these quote unquote rules are universal? Like, do you think in 20 years, you'll be telling your, like, Cena, will you tell your daughters, like, oh, hey, like, maybe.
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C
Like, no, Mommy, I'm hungry.
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A
Yeah, I was just gonna say for breakfast. I don't know. Like, are these. Are these rules that. That are universal, and do they transcend? You know, actually, she has, you know, Sigrid asked the question, do they transcend styles? Actually, that's not just Time and eras and actually, that's kind of a totally different angle that we haven't yet explored. I'm gonna say yes, it doesn't matter your style and that these are tools that you can apply no matter what. Like, you can balance proportions no matter what. Whether you prefer classic or retro or, you know, super contemporary. I think.
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B
I think so too.
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A
I personally think so. Christina.
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C
Yeah, I'm thinking. I'm just. Well, I'm thinking of like. Okay. In my head, I'm picturing like a kind of tomboy femme style where they tend to wear more like she might wear like a baggy jersey and then baggy Bermuda shorts and then chunky loafers. But the proportion might be like showing. Showing the leg and like showing your arm. So there's like the slim and the skin kind of thing. Or they might wear like their hair in a tight bun. And that's more of like a slim. And then I. And then in my head, I'm thinking like 70s bell bottoms. But the way bell bottoms were back then, it's like they were kind of skinny and then they went out quite a bit. So that's like a proportion in itself too. Right. Or that used to be like a slimmer top. The big bell bottom pants and then huge chunky platforms. Like my dad would talk about. He's like. He would say, like, he's like, I used to wear shoes like this high back in the 70s. You know what I mean? So. But that, to me is still a way of dressing proportionally. So I do. I do see that. Yeah. But I don't know if we. Were we thinking about that at the time? I'm not sure.
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A
Yeah.
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C
You know.
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A
Yeah.
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B
Were we thinking more about, like, that was the. That was the thing. Like, that was what was trendy.
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C
Yeah, that was. That's what was cool. That was fashion and. Yeah.
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B
Yeah.
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C
Yeah. So I don't know, it's gonna be.
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B
Interesting to see where we are, like 20 years from now if we're craving. If we're back to, like a uniform more for more of us, or if we're. It's funny to think about, like, how. How far can we stretch it because the lines are so blurred now.
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C
Yeah.
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B
Is it going to continue that way or are we going to get back to something a little bit more strict?
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C
Yeah. I don't know. It's interesting because I'm thinking about, like, you know, a lot of people don't work at an office anymore. They work from home. And do you even wear. Do you even get dressed? If you work from home. Like, are you in sweatpants all day? That type of thing, And. Or, for example, like, the. The rise of athleisure.
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B
Yeah.
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C
One thing I see so much mostly from young, younger people, I think, like, they're in high school. Like, I feel like the high school uniform is, like, little tank top, baggy sweatpants, and Ugg boots or Nike Air Force ones. It's like, literally everybody wears. So I'm like, yes. Where are we going in fashion? I don't know.
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A
Where are we going indeed.
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B
Yeah.
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C
But if they like it, fine. Love it. Good to you. Sorry. I'm not shitting on anybody. I'm just saying that's the pattern that I'm seeing.
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A
That's interesting. Okay. I mean, so I don't know. My verdict is that, yes, I think these transcend style and time because I see them more as, like, just basic artistic principles, but I also don't see them as rules.
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C
Well, sorry, I don't want to conclude it yet because, like, we haven't touched on a lot. We haven't.
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B
Sorry.
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C
We haven't touched on, like, for example, okay, don't wear white after Labor Day. Like, when did that rule come into. Right.
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B
Like, what are.
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C
Like, what are some other style rules?
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A
Like, black and navy blue, black and.
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C
Navy, or black and brown together?
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A
Like, and those are all outdated now, and we've totally changed that.
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C
Yeah.
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A
So. Okay, great point. Great point.
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B
We are not finished now.
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A
I don't know what to do. I really don't know what to say.
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B
No, I think.
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C
I think basically, maybe when we conclude it that way, it's like, I think there's some. Maybe when you talk about it as a principle of design and art, like, maybe those are more timeless versus these weird, like, arbitrary rules that came from the 80s and 90s that maybe that was more like. We talk a lot about style versus fashion, so maybe those rules are more fashion focused, more current, more of the time, rather than, like a global kind of universal principle.
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A
Yeah.
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C
What do you think about that?
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A
Yeah, I love that. Yes. Because, like, she mentions. Yeah. I like how, like, the. Yeah. There's the more fashion and then the more. I think that's genius.
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B
What does. Because it's not a principle we have here. I've had people comment sometimes if I've been wearing white jeans, like, what are your thoughts on wearing white after Labor Day?
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C
And I'm like, everybody.
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B
What?
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C
Yeah. Why is this a thing?
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B
Is it just because it's like. Like, is it something to do with the season or. I don't know.
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C
Why can't you wear white after Labor Day? I'm looking it up right now. In the early 19.
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A
Great.
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C
In the early 1900s, those who were well to do often favored lightweight, bright clothing, white linen suits and breezy dresses. Wearing white after Labor Day meant you were someone who had the means to have an end of summer vacation wearing white.
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A
I knew it was bougie. I knew it had roots in being bougie.
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C
This is from FarmersAlmanak.com wearing your whites beyond Labor Day was showing off. Oh, really?
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A
Oh, okay.
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B
Well.
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A
It'S not about being bougie at all. Wow, that's interesting.
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B
When is Labor Day?
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C
It's like, the first weekend of September usually.
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B
Okay.
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C
I mean, here in North America, it could be another. Could be somewhere else. Somewhere. I don't know. Yeah.
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A
Wow.
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B
I'm trying to think if we have, like, similar rules here.
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A
Yeah.
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C
Or are they all not really seen as in Denmark? If you guys.
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B
Yeah, I don't know. I don't think so.
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C
Sheila, are you looking it up?
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A
Are you looking.
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C
I hear you typing.
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B
No, I don't know. I mean, I'm actually working on, like, some more, like, Danish style content.
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C
Yeah.
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B
I think we only like Danish, like, very. But that's just common dress code. I think it's, like. Because I think we often confuse. Okay, I'm going on a bit of a tangent here, but I work. If you look up, like, the French inspired wardrobe, for example, it would be very similar to the Scandinavian inspired wardrobe. So you have the straight, like, jeans and the T shirt and the classic shirt and the trench coat. Like, very similar pieces. But I think, like, one very common thing is, like, the exaggerated contrast that we see here because people make functionality such a core part of their wardrobes rather than just a side note. So it's not uncommon to see someone wearing, like, tailored pieces with, like, chunky running shoes, for example. Yeah, I think that's. But that's not really, like, a dressing rule. I think that's just common.
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C
It's like the theme. The theme that you see. Yeah, yeah, yeah. Well, in Copenhagen, everyone was so chic.
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A
I loved it. I liked how playful they were. Sorry, I'm talking about it, like, how playful Scandi style is.
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B
Yeah.
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C
Great.
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B
Yeah. I definitely think it doesn't have to be that, like, stereotypical, minimal, quote, unquote, scandi style that we've been. I've definitely noticed a shift over the years of. Yeah. Like you say, people are a little bit more playful and, like, colorful, too, I think.
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A
Yeah. Lots of.
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C
Yeah.
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B
Yeah, yeah, that was a bit of a different discussion.
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A
That was cool. No, I love that. And I thought it was just the. The fact that. Sorry, I have to say one last bit. Like, the point where you were saying how someone could be wearing tailored trousers with a sneaker, like, the functionality. I thought sneakers with, like, dresses and stuff came in. Like, I thought that was really popular in, like, 2012, 2011. Like, that's when I. I saw that look really coming out. But like, I. In research yesterday, when I was like, pinning inspiration, there's a really great picture from the 80s of a girl walking around in Rome and she's got this beautiful sundress, little ribbon in her hair, and a pair of, like, I don't know if it's Adidas gazelles or superstars. And I'm like, this could literally have been taken yesterday.
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B
Yeah.
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A
Like, so I don't even.
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C
Well, I think because maybe. Maybe in the 80s that was like an original iteration. Now, because style is so cyclical and I think actually right now we're taking a lot of nods from the eighties in today's fashion right now. Right. And then it'll be 90s again and then it's going to be the early aughts, which is insane to me that, like, when the early 2000s was trending in, like, the 20. In 2020.
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A
Wow. Yeah. That's tired.
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C
Yeah. Blows my mind. Yeah. So I think, yeah, like, who. Who wore it first, you know?
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A
Yeah, well, it wasn't so much about the shoe, it's about the styling. Like, I didn't. To me, in the 80s, they were all still like, I wouldn't have put that combination together.
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C
Yeah.
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A
If that makes sense.
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C
Yeah. For sure. But, yeah, so, yeah, style rules. Style principles. I think. I think at the end of the day, it's like, can it transcend? Yes and no, I think is what we concluded from the conversation. But when it comes to those, I think it's like, apply what's helpful to you and don't get hung up on them. Because I feel like that's when getting dressed is no longer fun if all we focus on are the rules fully.
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A
Well said.
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B
Agree.
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C
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A
Ciao, everyone.