Episode 340

Summary

Sword and Scale – Episode 340 (Feb 21, 2026)

The Disappearance and Murder of Cassidy Rainwater

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Episode Overview

This chilling episode delves into the disappearance and gruesome murder of Cassidy Rainwater, a 33-year-old woman who vanished from rural Missouri in the summer of 2021. Through raw police interviews, courtroom recordings, survivor accounts, and disturbing details from investigation files, the show reconstructs the twisted, predatory partnership of James Phelps and Timothy Norton, examining how Cassidy became their victim—and raising unnerving questions about how many others could have met a similar fate.

The episode explores:

• Cassidy's troubled search for stability
• The isolated world and dark history of Moon Valley Road
• The manipulation and violence of Phelps and Norton
• Community rumors and law enforcement response
• The disturbing implications of the evidence found

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Key Discussion Points and Insights

1. A Setting Made for Secrets (02:39–05:42)

• Moon Valley Road appears idyllic by name but is actually a remote, foreboding stretch in the Ozarks—prime territory for isolation and secrecy.

  • "The kind of isolation where bad things happen without anyone noticing." (02:53)

• Fire and Explosives: First responders arrive to a property fully engulfed in a suspicious fire. Investigation reveals tripwires, homemade bombs, and arson.

  • “The report calls them incendiary devices made with mortar tubes, balloons, and coiled fuses with a trip wire attached.” (04:56)

2. Cassidy’s Life and Disappearance (07:24–14:57)

• Cassidy's Background: A vibrant but struggling woman, Cassidy moved through unstable living situations, including the Moon Valley cabin owned by her family’s acquaintance.

  • “Cassidy was a free spirited girl, loud. If she walked in a room, everybody knew she was there. But she had a beautiful soul.” (07:24-07:33)
  • Her troubled family history includes her mother’s unsolved murder, discovered only years prior.

• Arrival at Moon Valley: Cassidy’s search for refuge intersects with James Phelps’s cabin and Amanda Cowley’s own troubled story. Both Amanda and Cassidy are described as quiet, uneasy housemates.

  • “It was just me, Jim, Tim and her.” (12:38)
  • Amanda reflects, “That could have been me.” (13:55)

• Cassidy Goes Missing: A gap in contact grows to six weeks, triggering concern and then an official missing persons report.

  • The FBI becomes involved after receiving explicit, horrific photographs depicting Cassidy’s captivity. (14:57)

3. The Investigation Unfolds (18:10–27:19)

• Police Interactions with Phelps: Initial questioning yields evasions and suspicious behavior. Phelps claims Cassidy left for Colorado, offers no contact info, displays defensiveness.

  • “You mean to tell me…he didn’t even have her phone number? Come on.” (21:14)

• Tipping Point: FBI receives an anonymous email with photos showing Cassidy in captivity, as well as gruesome scenes matching the property’s layout.

  • “Whoever sent this email wasn’t trying to hide anything. They wanted him to know exactly where this was.” (22:04)

• Arrest: Upon serving the warrant, police immediately recognize details from the photos. Phelps is arrested for homicide, his only concern being, “What’s going to happen to my dog?” (27:19)

4. The Circle of the Cabins: Witnesses and “Friends” (28:01–32:44)

• John Warren (Property Owner): Describes links between all parties and recounts Cassidy’s mother’s murder—adding another generational layer of tragedy.

  • “Her boyfriend beat her to death and put her in a box... Found that out 20 years later.” (28:28)

• Amanda and Tim's Roles: Amanda Cowley tries to downplay her involvement, while evidence ties her into the social fabric surrounding the crimes.

  • John Warren expresses deep distrust of Tim Norton: “He always seemed to be lurking around the corner, quick to show up, always in Jim’s shadow.” (32:44)

5. Confessions and the Gruesome Truth (34:22–53:52)

• Tim Norton's Interrogation: At first, Tim denies involvement, but as questioning proceeds, he admits to being involved in Cassidy's murder and dismemberment.

  • “I had my head down, but I really didn’t see what he originally started doing... Not this way, just this way. And she was... yelling, asking why, why, why?” (45:22–45:46)
  • “Jim even had Tim take a picture; he was posing with Cassidy’s head like a trophy buck.” (48:45)

• Details of the Murder: Cassidy is strangled, then hung from a gantry, butchered and packaged in a style resembling processed game—furthering community fears about cannibalism.

  • “All the blood and the guts and everything went down there piece by piece. Cassidy’s body was carved apart, dropped into buckets like waste at a slaughterhouse.” (48:15)

• Evidence of Trophies: Police discover labeled packages of human meat in the freezer ("7 24"), alongside regular wild game.

6. Predation, Manipulation, and The Monster’s Method (39:03–74:56)

• Grooming and Stalking: Tim and Jim are revealed as experienced predators, luring women through isolation, manipulation, and online grooming.

  • Wren (a near-victim): “There’s no way that man doesn’t have people in his basement. He’s weird.” (58:55)
  • “They looked for weakness, tested boundaries, and moved in slowly until it was too late.” (71:47)

• Dark Fantasies: Investigators discover disturbing digital files on Jim’s devices, including BDSM content and child exploitation.

  • “Folders labeled kids in cages and nude babies. No description needed.” (63:09)

• Cannibalism Rumors: Evidence and jailhouse jokes about cannibalism abound, although actual charges do not emerge.

  • “I have no idea what he did with it…Playing along with the cannibal situation. But I didn’t eat any of it.” (67:02)

7. Aftermath: Justice and Reflection (68:32–76:12)

• Courtroom Proceedings: Both Phelps and Norton plead to first-degree murder, receiving life sentences.

  • “Attorney Sam Gearhart says Phelps had only faced charges of writing bad checks and illegal hunting in the past. But prosecutors argue Phelps poses a danger to the community, especially those... caring for Cassidy Rainwater’s children.” (69:08)

• Remembering Cassidy: Her son, Aiden, speaks movingly at her funeral:

  • “She always loved the river. It was her favorite place and I remember her always singing to me as a baby. She was a great person. She was the hardest working mom I’ve ever known.” (71:24)

• Larger Implications: The case exposes predatory men targeting the most vulnerable—those with few support systems and marginal social standing—making it clear such monsters are real and still active.

  • “But this was changing. They started stalking in parking lots and restaurants. That’s where Wren’s insight becomes so important. It could have been her.” (71:47)

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Notable Quotes & Memorable Moments

• On the isolation and danger:
  “Out here, it’s easy to go missing and even easier to stay that way.” (05:42)

• On the killers’ mindset:
  “Jim told Tim flat out, you need to bring me a woman. I don’t care where you get her. Parking lots are good. Big Lots is a good place to people watch. I can watch women all day... I want fresh meat. You know what I mean?” (37:45)

• On manipulation:
  “They looked for weakness, tested boundaries, and moved in slowly until it was too late.” (71:47)

• On the lasting horror:
  “If you ever find yourself saying it feels natural to cut a human into pieces, I’m sorry, but there’s no help for you. You’re fucked.” (49:20)

• On predation:
  “There are definitely people that—beyond your worst imagination—will do things like that or kind of surround themselves with people that are cool with stuff like that.” (74:56)

• On Cassidy’s memory:
  “She was a mother, a daughter, and a friend. She just happened to be a woman who trusted the wrong people.” (71:47)

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Timestamps of Significant Segments

• Arson and Bomb Discovery: 02:39–05:42
• Cassidy’s Life and Missing Report: 07:24–14:57
• FBI Receives Disturbing Photos: 14:57–15:27, 22:04–24:18
• Tim Norton’s Confession: 44:39–49:47
• Evidence of Cannibalism & Digital Files: 64:00–66:45
• Aiden’s Funeral Eulogy: 71:24
• Wider Reflection on Victim Selection: 73:19–74:56

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Conclusion

Sword and Scale Episode 340 takes listeners to the darkest reaches of rural America—and of human nature—by unraveling the predation, brutality, and chilling banality surrounding Cassidy Rainwater’s murder. Through real interviews and recorded confessions, the podcast offers insight into how predators operate and why their crimes remain hidden—until they're not.

This episode serves as both an investigative case file and a warning: sometimes the monsters are more ordinary—and more patient—than anyone wants to believe.

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Transcript

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[Interviewer/Detective]

Did it seem strange to you that you were taking human flesh inside into the tub?

[Timothy Norton]

Yes.

[Narrator]

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[Narrator]

On October 4, 2021, firefighters rush to 386 Moon Valley Road in Dallas County, Missouri. The name sounds like it should be printed on a postcard. Moon Valley makes you think of a serene getaway with cozy cabins and campfires. In reality, Moon Valley Road is a boring strip of gravel that cuts through dense Ozark woods. These trees are so thick that they almost block out the sky. When you look up from the ground, the nights are so dark you can't see your hand in front of you. There are no street lights, no neighbors in sight. Only the kind of isolation where bad things happen without anyone noticing. By the time they get there, the fire is already out of control. Nothing on the property can be salvaged. Flames shoot out of every building and don't stop burning until they've destroyed them all. After the fires are finally out, a Dallas county deputy steps onto the property. The ground is soft and sooty with wet ash. The black mud sticks to his boots and smoke is seeping from the rubble, the cabin is a shell now, with the roof collapsed and the windows blown out, the outbuildings are mostly gone. In the middle of the cabin's rubble stands a lone, familiar piece of furniture. A bathtub. The deputy wades through the debris, scanning with a flashlight. Then his beam catches a wire stretched tight, almost invisible, still attached to two scorched posts. He freezes. It's a tripwire. He knows that if he moves the wrong way, he could trigger it and blow them all to pieces. His eyes follow it carefully, and his focus is locked on the wire until it leads to a device buried in the rubble. They call the bomb squad, who detonates one device on site and removes two more. These are homemade bombs. The fire marshal will make the easy call. This was arson.

[Courtroom Reporter]

Scarce but solid. Details being released on what could have caused a late night fire on Moon Valley Road hours before Cassidy Rainwater's suspected kidnappers were due in court. A cabin where James Phelps and Timothy Norton had been living burned to the ground. A report obtained by Ozarks first today shows the Springfield bomb squad discovered not one but two explosive devices among the ashes. And while it doesn't say whether the fire was set intentionally, it does list what equipment was taken by investigators. The report calls them incendiary devices made with mortar tubes, balloons and coiled fuses with a trip wire attached. A Springfield fire marshal says one of the explosives was detonated on site, but what happened to the second device has not yet been released.

[Narrator]

The Missouri Ozarks cover more than 40,000 square miles of rough, isolated country, over half the state and twice the size of Switzerland. The Ozarks aren't a true mountain range, but a high, ancient plateau of limestone carved over millions of years. These limestone hills fold into deep valleys. Caves run for miles underground, and rivers disappear into sinkholes without a trace. And a lot of the roads are narrow and surrounded by woods. What goes on in the hollows is anyone's guess. Tourists come here for the fishing cabins, float trips, and lake towns. But the Ozarks have another side. Civil War confederates use these woods to disappear and then ambush their enemies. Prohibition gangs built stills so far back in the timber that no one dared to go there. Meth cooks and armed weed growers still guard their territory like they're at war. And then there are the legends. Weird lights moving through the trees with no source, numerous Bigfoot sightings, and whispers of feral people living in the backcountry. Out here, it's easy to go missing and even easier to stay that way. 33 year old Cassidy Rainwater didn't just disappear all at once. It happened slowly and under the radar. The kind of missing persons case that didn't start with a 911 call, but with a gap in contact that kept getting longer.

[Interviewer/Detective]

Cassidy was a free spirited girl, loud. If she walked in a room, everybody

[Narrator]

knew she was there. But she, she had a beautiful soul. She was born on June 9, 1988 near Lebanon, Missouri. Officially, Cassidy's parents were Clifford Welch and Tracy Wawisuk, but she went by Rainwater, a Native American name tied to someone in her past, her grandfather, who happened to own land on Moon Valley Road near where she was last seen. Cassidy had her first child with a high school boyfriend named Ben. The couple tried to make it work for the sake of their baby, but they chose to put him up for adoption at some point. Regardless, she and Ben remained on good terms. Later she remarried and had other children with that partner. Reports say that she was still legally married in 2021, but living apart. By the summer of 2021, Cassidy's life was unsettled. She'd been moving between places, looking for stability. Her first partner, Ben, remembered being worried about her. She was in a bad way. Like at that time, I'm pretty sure

[Interviewer/Detective]

she was homeless and she and I

[Timothy Norton]

were talking, it was just like, you

[Narrator]

know, come, you know, come to Kansas

[Timothy Norton]

City, we'll get things figured out.

[Narrator]

Searching for a place to stay eventually led her to a small property on Moon Valley Road, A remote rental cabin occupied by 60 year old Jim Phelps and owned by a man named John. John knew Cassidy's grandparents and suggested she talk with the guy living there. Jim, living in the cabin, had a soft spot for taking in women and girls. But none of them ever said anything negative about him.

[Amanda Cowley]

Okay, Jim is a friend once again. He let me stay with him from time to time when I was having a hard time. I have a lot of health problems, so it's hard for me to work, which is why I'm getting a job to where I can work on my own time now, as soon as I get my car fixed. But Jim, he was really kind, he was a sweet guy, but when I met him, he was a really kind guy. He was caring, he was really nice. No sexual relations, just don't put that out there. I mean, I've met Jim's family, I've met Tim's family. They know me, I know them.

[Narrator]

Amanda didn't just stumble into this story. Her paths here started months earlier when she met 56 year old Tim Norton. Jim's best friend. Amanda met Tim through a friend who was engaged to his nephew and living there. At the time, Amanda was between homes, so she moved into Tim's trailer, which by all accounts was a disgusting pig pen. Tim was a long haul trucker, and Amanda sometimes went along for the ride. Other times, she acted like his personal dispatcher or helped with his finances. People assume they were a couple. Amanda says that's ridiculous. He was too old for her. According to Amanda, she was just helping him in exchange for a place to live. I mean, he was 56 and she was 19. Nothing to see here, right? Months later, Amanda's living situation shifted again. The chaos of everyone living in the trailer wore her down. Tim suggested she go and stay at his buddy Jim's cabin for a while, so she did. On paper, it sounded like a quiet escape, a rural place with a name that could pass for a weekend getaway. But this was no campground. The cabin sat isolated, hidden from the road, with sheds of outbuildings scattered across the property. Amanda says her time there was temporary, but her connections with Jim and Tim were already cemented, and they were about to become a lot more than casual acquaintances. Let's circle back to Cassidy Rainwater. Amanda knew who she was because their time at Jim's cabin overlapped. Amanda remembered meeting her.

[Amanda Cowley]

I met her once. Me and Tim went over there because I had some mail to pick up because that's where my mailing address is right now, you know, didn't really talk. She didn't. She was kind of quiet, which I get new person. I'm quiet too, with new people, but she didn't really talk. She kind of stayed to herself. And whenever I went to go do something in my car, and when I came back in, she had told Jim that she wanted to leave, that she wasn't comfortable. Those two mean people. Jim didn't tell her that people were coming over, and she wasn't comfortable with this. It was just me, Jim, Tim and her.

[Narrator]

Okay, that's it, though.

[Interviewer/Detective]

That was too many people.

[Amanda Cowley]

Yeah.

[Narrator]

It wasn't exactly a warm welcome. Cassidy, like Amanda, wasn't looking for new friends. You could say both women had retreated to the cabin for the same reason. To escape drama and conflict and piece themselves back together. The problem was that the place was starting to feel less like an isolated hideout and more like the worst kind of Airbnb, the kind where the host keeps allowing more guests to book the place without telling you. According to Amanda, the two tried to stay out of each other's way. This was around mid July of 2021. By the time Cassidy went missing in late August, Amanda had already moved out.

[Amanda Cowley]

I didn't really. I tried not to get involved in too much because I just. I can't take the stress.

[Timothy Norton]

Yeah.

[Amanda Cowley]

I was like. I looked at Jim and I said, so how is Cassidy doing? Because I was just kind of curious because I know she's been struggling with some stuff. And I was. And he was like, I don't know. She left in the middle of the night. I was like, oh. And then later I found out that she was missing.

[Narrator]

I was like, no.

[Interviewer/Detective]

God.

[Amanda Cowley]

Until I read the article. And I was like, oh, what the fuck happened? And then, like I said, in the back of my mind, it was like, that could have been me.

[Narrator]

In August, a friend noticed that it had been about six weeks since anyone had seen Cassidy. She was reported missing. The last person to admit seeing her was Jim. It wasn't the police who made the first big move in the case. It was the FBI, after someone sent them an email with photographs labeled Cassidy. The first one showed a topless woman in a cage. And whoever sent it made sure the FBI knew exactly where to find her, or at least what was left of her.

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[Narrator]

In the summer of 2021, Jim Phelps was living in a small cabin on Moon Valley Road, a patch of rural Missouri surrounded by dense Ozark woods. He was a quiet, reclusive person who spent most of his time at the cabin. His closest friend, Tim Norton, was a long haul trucker, also with a habit of keeping to himself. And yet, somehow, women kept finding their way to that cabin. One was a 19 year old woman named Amanda. She also stayed at the cabin for a few weeks after life became too crowded at Tim's place. Cassidy Rainwater, whose life was unraveling, had come to the cabin, searching for solitude and some kind of sanctuary. Like Amanda, she was private, guarded, not quick to share her world. Their paths only crossed briefly before Amanda moved out. A few weeks later, Cassidy was gone too. But unlike Amanda, she didn't choose her next destination. She simply disappeared. After six weeks with no sign of her, she was reported missing by a family member. The last person to have seen her was Jim Phelps. One night, deputies drove out to Moon Valley Road. The cabin was lit only by a porch bulb and their headlights. Otherwise it was an opaque kind of darkness. They knocked, asking Jim where Cassidy was.

[Interviewer/Detective]

Howdy, Sheriff's office.

[Narrator]

Howdy.

[Interviewer/Detective]

Howdy.

[Timothy Norton]

Howdy.

[Interviewer/Detective]

Yeah, is a Cassidy here? No, no, haven't seen her in weeks. Really? Well, I'm trying to check on her. You know her? You know Cassidy? Yeah, I know her well, I've been trying to check on her.

[Narrator]

Jim Phelps, over 6ft tall, bald, with glasses and a white beard, came to the cabin door wearing only jeans and a dog tag around his neck. He looked relatively harmless, at least for Ozarkian, Missouri.

[Interviewer/Detective]

Do you have a phone number for her? Nope.

[Narrator]

Okay.

[Interviewer/Detective]

Oh, no. If she's not here, she's not here. She's not in any trouble. They're just worried about her. Do you know maybe where she's at? Last I heard, she was going to Colorado. Going to Colorado?

[Narrator]

Yeah.

[Timothy Norton]

Oh.

[Interviewer/Detective]

Do you know what's over there?

[Content Warning Announcer]

No.

[Interviewer/Detective]

Oh, she never told you? Oh, yeah.

[Courtroom Reporter]

How long.

[Interviewer/Detective]

How long ago was that?

[Content Warning Announcer]

Almost a month ago.

[Interviewer/Detective]

When she was here last. All right, well, if she comes back, or if she comes and visits you, I'd appreciate if you'd call us so we can tell, you know, tell her family that she's okay.

[Timothy Norton]

All right.

[Interviewer/Detective]

Well, I guess I'll get out of here.

[Timothy Norton]

Since then.

[Narrator]

You mean to tell me that in the whole time Cassidy was staying there under his roof, he didn't even have her phone number? Come on. Just a few weeks later, on September 16, 2021, an anonymous email lands in the FBI's tip line inbox. Attached are pictures, all labeled with the same name. Cassidy. The first picture stops the FBI agent cold. It's a woman in a cage. Blonde hair, bare from the waist up, crouched in a cage with her knees pulled tightly against her chest. She has a vacant stare. In between the steel bars, he sees the room behind. This is a large animal cage, but it's inside a room. It's inside someone's house. He clicks to the next frame, and the scenery is outside. Old, weathered sheds, piles of scrap, and a tall metal frame. To most people, it's nothing, but he's seen enough hunting setups to know what this is. A deer gantry. The details fall into place in his head. The wood grain on the walls, the layout of the yard and all of its clutter. Whoever sent him this email wasn't trying to hide anything. They wanted him to know exactly where this was. And as he stares at the screen, one thought is very clear. Whatever's happening out there on Moon Valley Road, it's probably already too late to stop it. On the same day, Dallas county detectives get a warrant and show up in broad daylight. They want to compare the scenery to the photos. This time, the officer stops the car halfway up the gravel lane when he sees Jim's dog on a long leash and then spots Jim walking slowly across the yard. Now he's fully clothed, but still as nonchalant as last Time? Nope, haven't seen her. Hello. How you doing?

[Interviewer/Detective]

Yeah, well, I was just following up with you on Cassidy. It's been, what's it been, a couple

[Narrator]

weeks since we've been here and we

[Interviewer/Detective]

haven't heard a peep out of her, you know, so I'm just gonna see if maybe you would heard anything out of her or anything extra you could send us to do follow ups on her or something. We're coming up pretty easy. Haven't hurt. Well, he doesn't like us, does he? Actually, he wants you to play with him. Oh, yeah?

[Narrator]

Yeah.

[Interviewer/Detective]

The last time I was here, I was walking by him and he grabbed ahold of me. I didn't know if he was trying to play or he wants to play for what?

[Narrator]

So the dog looks well cared for. So does Jim, actually. But as unbothered as he seems, his posture says a lot. While his voice is easy, his words are compliant. He almost immediately folds his arms tightly across his chest. They call that a defensive posture. Jim.

[Interviewer/Detective]

The last time I was here. Let me get a piece of paper. I. I gotta do a big report on it and stuff. And I have Jim Phelps, but I don't have any other info. I was wondering if I could get that from you. Okay.

[Narrator]

Jim Phelps.

[Interviewer/Detective]

Is it Jim or James?

[Commercial Announcer]

He's a legal name.

[Narrator]

James Phelps.

[Interviewer/Detective]

What's your date of birth? 1-13-63.

[Narrator]

If you pay close attention. Jim is getting increasingly anxious. Listen for his nervous laugh. I guess you know your social dude.

[Interviewer/Detective]

13 years in military.

[Commercial Announcer]

Yeah, I know.

[Interviewer/Detective]

Oh yeah. You remember those things after that long? Yeah, after the first day or so. Yeah, you remember it. You remember it. You don't want to have to go back there and dig it up.

[Wren (Lauren)]

What's that number again?

[Narrator]

I remember that.

[Interviewer/Detective]

Even going through MEPs, it was like. Because I didn't know mine and I had it by car. It was like every time I turned around, I was digging it out. By the end of that day, I had it by the end of the first days. Rattle it off without a problem and you still can today.

[Timothy Norton]

Yeah. Oh, yeah.

[Interviewer/Detective]

There was a picture that I had come across of Cassidy and I was wondering if it was done here. Would you mind if I looked at your backyard? My backyard? Yeah, There's a picture taken of her with a. A stump in the background. Do you have anything like that in the back yard?

[Narrator]

I don't have a stump. No. No stump.

[Interviewer/Detective]

You might have to take a look real quick. Back. There's my hoist.

[Narrator]

Jim tries to brush it off, saying the only thing Back there is his hoist. But once they step into the yard, it's like walking right into the pictures themselves. 3D. Now, not just images on a page. The hoist, the clutter, the leaning sheds. Every detail of the image lines up.

[Interviewer/Detective]

Get up against that truck right now and get your hands on that truck. Do not fuck with me. Get up there on that truck. On the truck. Hands behind your back. What's going on?

[Narrator]

Okay.

[Interviewer/Detective]

What's going on? Mr. Phelps, you have the right to remain silent. Anything you say can and will be

[Narrator]

used against you in a court of law. You know how the rest of that goes. In fact, you probably have it memorized.

[Interviewer/Detective]

You understand your rights?

[Content Warning Announcer]

Yeah.

[Narrator]

Okay.

[Interviewer/Detective]

And what's going on right now? You're under arrest for the homicide of Cassidy Rainwater. What's going to happen to my dog?

[Narrator]

We'll talk about that in just second a little bit. To understand who Jim Phelps was, you have to hear from John Warren. He's the man who actually owned the cabin on Moon Valley Road. He wasn't just a landlord, he was family. He was Jim Phelps brother in law and rented property to Jim for a mere $200 a month, plus utilities. Keep in mind the place was no mansion. This guy also knew Cassidy because her grandfather, Bill Rainwater, used to be his neighbor.

[Interviewer/Detective]

So that's when you met Cassie? When she was a kid.

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She was just came up with Bill one day. Come to find out, about two years later, her mother disappeared. Found out about 20 years later who had done it and when. How it happened.

[Narrator]

What was that about?

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Her boyfriend beat her to death and put her in a box and took her out in a big area, shallow grave along the pinchbone. Found that out 20 years later.

[Interviewer/Detective]

Where was that?

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Over L County.

[Interviewer/Detective]

Who was your boyfriend?

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I said, I don't know. Bill told me about it.

[Narrator]

In other words, John Warren wasn't just Jim Phelps landlord and brother in law. He was linked to all of them. He tied Jim to the property and he tied Cassidy to a family history already marked by violence. Her mother's murder, hidden for 20 years, had only come to light a few years before Cassidy herself would disappear. John said Cassidy was going through a hard time. Finding out her mother was murdered was probably part of that. And so he and his wife were trying to help her.

[Interviewer/Detective]

And.

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I'm sorry. She took a bunch of jewelry that Robin had, and I kept. Tell her, you need to make things right with Robin. You need to make things right. Well, I lost Robin on the first day of October. Two or three weeks later. Needed A vehicle to get back and forth.

[Interviewer/Detective]

Cassie did.

[Narrator]

Yeah.

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And I told her, you, you really screwed up because now you can't make it right with Robin. Robin's in the next world. Can't make it right with her. I'll let you use my truck.

[Narrator]

It seemed like John Warren was kind of a grandfather to Cassidy. He tried to help her, but she stole from his wife. And he continued trying to help a recovering addict. He told Jim Phelps that to use his property, there was a zero tolerance policy for drugs. He told Cassidy the same thing before he allowed her to stay on the property with Jim. By the time Cassidy was staying there, Amanda had already been in and out of the cabin. Their time overlapped, and Amanda remembered Cassidy as quiet and uneasy, not comfortable with strangers coming around. Apparently, John, the property owner, felt the same way. Yet another friend of Tim's was making herself at home without getting permission.

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And this little gal has not got anything on from a waist up. And I said, you might want to put something on and who had a thought for you? And she told me, well, I'm Tim's friend. I said, well, Tim's friend, you need to get your ass down here and get your stuff back to go to your link, because that's not part of the deal. Where's Tim? He's up in Cannington or someplace. He's working there all week and she's staying there. That. Don't cry, but try to find out. The reason that they called me was because Jim was in the hospital

[Wren (Lauren)]

and

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this person was in the cabin. I commenced to get her out of there. As soon as she walked out the door, I put the lock on the door because Jim's in the hospital, killed as the other king.

[Interviewer/Detective]

So Jim's at the hospital and you kicked Tim's friend out?

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Yeah, he kicked Tim's friend out. And most amazing thing, Jim was able to come down and pick her up. And he wasn't supposed to be there until two or three days. I think it was a Wednesday. And imagine that he actually was able to show up a couple hours later.

[Narrator]

None of this was sitting well with John. He made it clear he doesn't like Tim hanging around the property. Tim always seemed to be lurking around the corner, quick to show up, always in Jim's shadow. John said he never wanted him out there in the first place. Meanwhile, on September 16, Jim was already in custody. Deputies sit him down and ask about Cassidy. He doesn't give them much. He sticks to his story. She talked about going to Colorado. She left in the middle of the night someone picked her up and he hadn't seen her since. When they press, he deflects even whining about his dog. And then he shuts up completely. He wants a lawyer, he says. Investigators still have an angle, though. His friend Tim Norton. It seems pretty clear he's a big player in whatever happened to Cassidy. And if he isn't an active participant, he at least knows stuff. A lot of stuff. Detectives bring him into another room. Compared to Jim, he is easier prey. Where Jim had clammed up, Tim talked so much that he couldn't hold his story straight for more than five minutes. At first, he flat out denies knowing anything about Cassidy's disappearance. He says he didn't see her, doesn't know what happened, and doesn't have a clue. But when asked about her relationship with Jim, he's got a lot to say.

[Interviewer/Detective]

Were they in a sexual relationship?

[Timothy Norton]

Not that I know of. I know he talked about that. She said she was going to do certain things, whether she would spend the night and, you know, sleep with him and stuff. As far as I know, nothing ever happened because he was always aggravated after she left because she didn't. Didn't do what she said she was going to do.

[Interviewer/Detective]

Okay, so it's your understanding that Jim thought that the two of them may at some point have a romantic or sexual relationship.

[Narrator]

Okay.

[Interviewer/Detective]

But you don't think it ever happened based on.

[Timothy Norton]

No, I don't think so.

[Interviewer/Detective]

Okay.

[Narrator]

Both Jim and Tim were annoyed with Cassidy for different reasons, but the property owner kept sticking up for her.

[Timothy Norton]

I didn't like her.

[Interviewer/Detective]

Okay. What about Jim?

[Timothy Norton]

He tolerated her because of John.

[Interviewer/Detective]

He tolerated her because of John.

[Timothy Norton]

Yeah.

[Interviewer/Detective]

And John, again, being the person who owns the property.

[Timothy Norton]

See, Jim tried to keep her out of the property after a while, after she'd thrown the rings.

[Interviewer/Detective]

Okay.

[Timothy Norton]

But she would go to John and get John to okay her to come out there and stay at the cabin. Tim's hands were tied.

[Narrator]

They believed John when he said she had stolen jewelry from his wife, but John was willing to forgive her. But later, a collection of Tim's knives went missing from the cabin, and Tim blamed Cassidy. Tim and Jim's plan escalated quickly. What started as talk of confronting her turned into restraining her and ended with killing her. By that point, Cassidy had already spent time locked inside a dog cage.

[Interviewer/Detective]

How did that progress?

[Timothy Norton]

That one, I do believe, progressed with him saying he wanted her dead.

[Narrator]

Okay.

[Timothy Norton]

I was about to tell you that she. She was accusing me and. Or Mr. Phelps of kidnapping her or killing her or. I'm not sure, exactly what she was.

[Narrator]

Cassidy accused them outright of kidnapping her and planning to kill her. And that, according to Tim, pissed Jim off even more.

[Interviewer/Detective]

And so during that planning process between you and Mr. Phelps, was anyone else ever a part of that?

[Timothy Norton]

Yes, there was one person, one time, maybe two times. That was there. Her name was Amanda Cowley.

[Narrator]

Don't let Amanda's small baby voice fool you into thinking she was innocent. She insisted she wasn't his girlfriend. He was too old for her. She had her age limits. No sex, nothing to see here. But she was much more involved than she said.

[Interviewer/Detective]

Neither of them ever talked about killing anyone.

[Amanda Cowley]

They talked about, you know, like, hunting, stuff like that, like deer and stuff, fish, fishing and stuff like that, but never killing anyone.

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How about

[Interviewer/Detective]

against their will?

[Amanda Cowley]

They make jokes.

[Narrator]

What type of jokes?

[Amanda Cowley]

They're like, oh, she's pretty, I'll take her home. That kind of stuff. But, you know, I never thought anything of it because, like I said, when I met these two men, they were sweet men, they were really nice. They were caring.

[Narrator]

But their jokes may not have been jokes at all. I mean, who jokes about that? Detectives were already onto the fact that they weren't joking. They had text messages and Facebook dialogue between the two of them. If there was any doubt about how dark Jim and Tim's conversations got, the messages they sent each other erased it. Jim told Tim flat out, you need to bring me a woman. I don't care where you get her. Tim didn't push back. He asked, where do you want me to get her? Jim's answer was as casual as it was chilling. Parking lots are good. Big lots is a good place to people watch. I can watch women all day. And it didn't stop there. Jim bragged, I've been watching the girls in town. One day, I'm gonna have one tied up out here. Then came the line that made investigators stomachs turn. I want fresh meat. You know what I mean? We here at Sword and Scale did a little digging and found someone who almost got caught up in Tim Norton's web. This is Wren.

[Wren (Lauren)]

So my name is Lauren. I at the time, was in College. In 2021, I believe. I can't remember what month he got arrested, but I do remember that it was about two weeks after I had met him, after I had met Timothy. I was working at a Buffalo Wild Wings in, like, middle of nowhere, college town, South Georgia. But whenever I was there, I had the patio section in the morning, which was typically, nobody was really out there, and so I was just trying to make Conversations, see if I could get a tip. And he didn't really want anything from me, but he wanted to talk more than I think most people want to talk to their waitress. And when he had come through, he had said something about being a truck driver from Missouri.

[Narrator]

Ren described Tim as looking much older than his 50s and having what she described as a strangely flat face. The conversation started somewhat normally.

[Wren (Lauren)]

He started off asking if I like my job, and I said, not really, but it pays the bills. He had told me I should get a rich boyfriend so I don't have to work this job anymore. And he wouldn't let, you know, a woman work like that. And that's when it started getting kind of weird. But it got creepy when he started asking me if we had any cameras in the parking lot and what time I got off work.

[Narrator]

The text messages alone suggested that Tim and Jim were a team, just as they'd always been. There's not a lot of information out there about who they were, but they described each other as brothers. Within the team, it seemed Tim was the scout, or maybe more like a predatory lion, hunting during the day and bringing the kill back to Cher.

[Wren (Lauren)]

He had ended up telling me that he was a truck driver from Missouri, and he knew I75 like the back of his hand. And, like, when I say that, it sounded like a threat. Sometimes people don't understand what I mean. But the way that he looked at me and the tone that he said, it was like, I know where I'm going. I don't need to leave a trail to tell you I was there. It was weird. And the way that he looked at me and also at a lot of the other girls that were working there just seemed very predatory.

[Narrator]

We haven't even scratched the surface here. Back at the investigation, detectives had a broad idea of what actually went on the day that Tim and Jim decided to make Cassidy go away. Still, they had no idea how many details Tim would give them. And it all corroborated what Amanda was finally revealing, however minimized she presented herself.

[Amanda Cowley]

He didn't tell me he killed her.

[Narrator]

No.

[Amanda Cowley]

But I know that there were jokes made.

[Narrator]

Okay, tell me about these jokes.

[Amanda Cowley]

That jokes that were made was that if they were to kill someone, they would cut them up in little pieces

[Wren (Lauren)]

and put them in the woods.

[Narrator]

Good joke, right?

[Amanda Cowley]

You never told me he killed her. I. I swear he never told me.

[Interviewer/Detective]

If he told you, then that's not on you.

[Narrator]

That's.

[Amanda Cowley]

That's just as far as I can remember. He never told me he was tortured.

[Narrator]

For men.

[Wren (Lauren)]

Yeah.

[Interviewer/Detective]

Because if he told you. It's okay. We need to just.

[Narrator]

Hold on.

[Amanda Cowley]

I'm trying to remember that conversation. If we had that conversation involving.

[Narrator]

I don't know about you, but if someone told me they wanted to get rid of somebody and then joked about how if they did it, they'd cut them into little pieces. I kind of remember that, but. Oh, wait. Just kidding. She did remember.

[Amanda Cowley]

Oh, my God.

[Wren (Lauren)]

I did.

[Interviewer/Detective]

Tell me about this.

[Amanda Cowley]

She was talking about how she had stolen something from him and that he had. He had helped restrain her and that him and Jim, like, apparently Jim looked at her and Cassie looked at him and said, why? He said, because you said that I wouldn't. That I've done it before. I didn't think anything of that.

[Wren (Lauren)]

Oh, my God.

[Narrator]

It's okay.

[Amanda Cowley]

I thought he was joking. I seriously did.

[Interviewer/Detective]

Did he tell you that they killed him?

[Amanda Cowley]

Me thinking it was a joke?

[Wren (Lauren)]

Yes.

[Interviewer/Detective]

How did they. How did he say

[Amanda Cowley]

she's dead?

[Narrator]

I guess it was all too easy for Amanda to play dumb when the story lined up exactly with what Tim admitted to telling her. Unlike Amanda, Tim didn't have the luxury of hiding behind just joking. When detectives pushed, the thin wall of denial cracked. First a slip, then a fragment, and then a flood. What he finally confessed, piece by piece, is the kind of thing you can't unhear.

[Interviewer/Detective]

Okay, so 8 o' clock in the morning. Well, late July. Yeah, so. So the sun is up.

[Timothy Norton]

Sun's up.

[Interviewer/Detective]

Okay,

[Timothy Norton]

so.

[Interviewer/Detective]

Okay, so you could see.

[Timothy Norton]

Yeah.

[Interviewer/Detective]

You think you can see clearly. Okay. And. And the person whose legs that you grabbed. It was Cassidy.

[Narrator]

Okay.

[Interviewer/Detective]

All right.

[Narrator]

So you.

[Interviewer/Detective]

You had. You were holding her legs. You. You already described how you knelt down and were holding her knees, I think is what you said.

[Timothy Norton]

Yeah. Right.

[Narrator]

Knees.

[Timothy Norton]

Right under. Right under her knee area.

[Interviewer/Detective]

Okay.

[Timothy Norton]

So it immobilized all of her leg. I mean, I got enough training and stuff and I know how to do that. Sure.

[Interviewer/Detective]

And then what did Jim do?

[Timothy Norton]

Well, there again, like I said, I had my head down, but I really didn't see what he originally started doing. I did look up and he was trying to get the bag over head. Not this way, just this way. And she was the main thing. She was yelling, but she was talking a little louder than normal.

[Narrator]

Okay.

[Timothy Norton]

Asking why, why, why? And that's when I looked at him to see what he was going to say. And I seen his eyes. And at that point, like I told you, at that point, I wasn't sure about my life.

[Narrator]

At first. Tim said he just held her Legs. Well, Jim used a bag and then his hands. But as the questions kept coming, the details got darker. He finally admitted he joined in, his own hands tightening around her throat until she stopped struggling. All in all, it took 30 minutes to strangle the life out of her. Afterwards, they left her body lying there before dragging it outside toward the gantry. This was the same gantry that would later show up in those photographs. The gantry stood in the Ozark woods, where it held captive numerous corpses of deer, cattle, pork, and who knows what else as the blood drained from them. Only this time, that would be a human. It would be a mother. At least this is the only time the detectives knew about that night. The two men worked methodically. Knives, buckets, plastic wrap. Tim told the officers how they cut her legs apart piece by piece. He described it flatly, as if they were reading instructions off a page. Tim acted like he had no vested interest in doing this, but he was lying. He thought she was a liar and a thief. And in his words, he didn't deal with people like that.

[Timothy Norton]

And then he walked over to the crank. If you remember correctly, that was a rope on the crank. He cranked it up, raising her up like a set of beef. You know that he referring her to. Like that, but there's no better way to put it. Took her head off first, pulled a wash basin. I don't know how countryfied you are, but big tub, not yet. Big around, not yet. Slid it up underneath her, which would be nothing unusual. It was processing a deer or whatever. He took off her head, put it in there, and then he started cutting her out down the center. Okay, so all the blood and the

[Narrator]

guts and everything went down there piece by piece. Cassidy's body was carved apart, dropped into buckets like waste at a slaughterhouse.

[Interviewer/Detective]

And so he handed you the camera and asked you to take a picture?

[Timothy Norton]

Yep.

[Interviewer/Detective]

And what did you take a picture of?

[Timothy Norton]

Him sitting next to her.

[Interviewer/Detective]

Okay, somebody.

[Timothy Norton]

It's not coming in real clear. I think he reached down and grabbed her head and pulled it out.

[Interviewer/Detective]

Like posing with the body?

[Timothy Norton]

Yeah. I mean, he was standing up almost straight.

[Narrator]

Jim even had Tim take a picture. He was posing with Cassidy's head like a trophy buck. Tim claims he was emotionless and just following Jim's orders. Hand me this. Take away that like a butcher's assistant.

[Timothy Norton]

He go, he started cutting one off. And after he split her down the middle. Not just the gunning, but the splitting. And he went to the corner parts. There again, knowing what we did with regular carcasses, it Just became natural to do it.

[Narrator]

We know you love true crime, but if you ever find yourself saying it feels natural to cut a human into pieces, I'm sorry, but there's no help for you. You're fucked. Jim wasn't finished. What he did next crossed the line from killing to desecration. The kind of act that makes investigators question whether this was about murder at all or something far more primal.

[Timothy Norton]

He cut off her boobs.

[Interviewer/Detective]

Okay.

[Timothy Norton]

And her gentile. Okay. The genitalia he put in the bowl.

[Narrator]

Okay.

[Timothy Norton]

The boobs he threw in the bucket.

[Interviewer/Detective]

When you say the bucket, you're talking about the bucket.

[Timothy Norton]

The washband that we had all the

[Narrator]

guts and everything in Jim was all about trophies. Apparently, they got rid of her like she was nothing more than a carcass. According to Tim, Jim had him dig a hole and bury her head. The visceral remains, the guts were carried off in buckets and dumped in the woods. Let the animals do their jobs, in Tim's words. The rest was butchered, quartered, and handled piece by piece. When investigators later served a warrant, they opened a freezer on the property. Inside, they found packages of meat. Some were labeled deer, some coon, and every other form of wildlife you could imagine. But they also found neatly wrapped packs labeled simply 7 24. The day they murdered and processed Cassidy. This raised a question darker than anything investigators were prepared for. Was this murder for murder's sake? Or had Cassidy Rainwater been killed, butchered, and prepared for something else? And then the biggest mystery of all. Why would anyone, whether it was Tim, Jim, or another accomplice, send those pictures straight to the FBI? It could only have been for some kind of sick bragging or proof that more people were involved. And there may have been more victims.

[Interviewer/Detective]

Now there are more questions than answers in the disappearance of a 33 year old Missouri woman. Cassidy Rainwater hasn't been seen or heard from since at least July 25. With rainwater still missing, two men, Timothy Norton and James Phelps, are in custody and charged with kidnapping in connection to the case. They're accused of locking her up in a cage inside this small cabin near Lebanon, Missouri. Adding to the mystery, just hours before both men were scheduled to make their first appearance in court, that same cabin burned to the ground. The Dallas County Sheriff's Office has been tight lipped about the case. In a lengthy post online, the sheriff condemned rumors about the case, adding, quote, no, you are not entitled to a play by play of an ongoing investigation. If you want to be in the know, we are hiring along with every other law enforcement agency in the country.

[Narrator]

The property was burned to the ground just days before their first court appearance. To this day, by the way, no one has been charged. Officially, investigators said it was a propane tank explosion. But for a community already buzzing with rumors of cages, body parts and cannibalism, it only deepened the paranoia. The sheriff's department was frustrated and issued a harsh statement to the public. But here's the problem. The stories weren't all wrong. The cage was real. The pictures were real. The meat in the freezer was real. It wasn't hard to put two and two together. If Cassidy was packaged like venison, where exactly was this meat going to end up?

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[Wren (Lauren)]

One of the first things that I thought after he left was, there's no way that man doesn't have, like, people in his basement. He's weird.

[Narrator]

What Ren didn't know was that Tim Norton was worse than weird. He was, in fact, a predator of young women.

[Wren (Lauren)]

I thought that he was like a little too old to be doing all this, and especially too old to be hitting on women who were. God, I was probably 22 at the time. Like, he was the conversation that I had with him. I have never had anybody speak to me that way, so I remembered him. But when that mug shot came up, I remember being in my college apartment and it had come across across, like, CNN or some, like, big. It was a mainstream thing, and I saw it, and immediately I texted my friend that I worked with, and I said, do you remember that creepy guy that I was telling you about? Like, I swear to God, this is him. And then I read kind of more about who he was and what he did. And when I saw Trucker from Missouri, I was like, oh, my God, that's. That's him.

[Narrator]

Fortunately, Wren had enough life experience and confidence to keep Tim at a distance, and she immediately reported what had happened.

[Wren (Lauren)]

I had talked to my general manager, and I said, this guy is weird, and he's asking me all these weird questions. I need you to, like, let the other girls know that they need to have somebody walk them to their cars tonight. I don't know how long he's gonna be here, but he doesn't seem like he has a lot going on. And he kind of blew me off. And then, you know, one or two ish weeks later, I came back in with the mug shot, pulled up, and I said, you know, this is the guy that I was telling you about. Like, I'm serious. We need more cameras.

[Narrator]

Right before Tim left the restaurant after staying way too long without ordering food, Ren remembered the feeling she got from him.

[Wren (Lauren)]

I noticed that he looked sort of satisfied that I was uncomfortable. Like, he really enjoyed that. What he was saying was kind of making me squirm. Like, I really obviously didn't want to speak to him, and he knew that, and I think that that was kind of part of the game for him.

[Narrator]

Ren's experience offered a glimpse of how Tim would operate in public. Unsettling, inappropriate, and just weird. But in his own words, he gave investigators an even darker view of what was happening back at the cabin where he and Jim hung out. During his interview, Tim admitted that both he and Jim were into bdsm. But Jim took it even further. He interacted online with all kinds of women, including minors. In his sick fantasy world, according to Tim, Jim was more to blame. He maintained he had only stumbled across the content on Jim's hard drive. He described it almost casually, like it was just another hobby.

[Interviewer/Detective]

He ever talked to you about those chat rooms?

[Timothy Norton]

Yeah, he mentioned what they were about and stuff. Like, what's what kind of chat rooms. Some of them were more than just darker BDSM and that type of lifestyle and some of my lifestyles. So, yeah, I mean, I know a little bit about it. Mostly learn from him, but, you know, as far as what it is. So it's a little odd, isn't it? What, did he get into it? I suppose maybe.

[Interviewer/Detective]

But maybe you continue to stay with it. And what, like, anything in particular that he.

[Timothy Norton]

I. I don't know if he got into it or not. I mean, he talked to me, really.

[Interviewer/Detective]

Everybody interested, you know, like, what was some of the weirdest stuff that he would talk about in there?

[Timothy Norton]

I told him I couldn't tell you what he talked about in the chat rooms.

[Interviewer/Detective]

No, but he told you about some.

[Timothy Norton]

Some things he would. I mean, he mentioned, you know, this person from Sweden or this person from this country or some other country he was talking to about it. That was about it.

[Narrator]

But that wasn't all of it. Tim downplayed everything. What they thought about, what they talked about and what they actually did. But investigators compared his story against the phone records and Facebook messages, and the reality looked far worse than what Tim admitted. Jim's collection of bondage pictures and messages, all contained in labeled folders, included women hanging on crosses and women in cages. There was even a folder named Milking. This contained sick images of women tied up with their breasts connected to cow milking devices. There were other folders labeled kids in cages and nude babies. No description needed.

[Timothy Norton]

He didn't ever mention that she might be into it, but that he be willing to try it with her. I mean, I know he had some bds. Him. Like what? He got a harness. He had some handcuffs, ankle shackles. He had a pillbox full of stuff like that.

[Interviewer/Detective]

Okay.

[Timothy Norton]

You know, adult. Adult enjoyables. That's what I can put it. I know there was a tail in there, some whips and other things.

[Narrator]

To each his own right? Live and let live, right? All that shit. But there's a big difference between consensual roleplay and being a predator. An older man waiting for vulnerable women to be delivered to him or to stumble into his trap like a fly in the grips of a Venus flytrap. Like Cassidy did, for example. And it's an entirely different matter for someone to end up the way Cassidy did in a freezer. You've heard the phrase, where there's smoke, there's fire. Well, where there's a freezer full of human meat, fill in the blank. Jim had even written a macabre story on the topic. Not only that, it's clear he did some intense research on the subject of cannibalism.

[Timothy Norton]

It's like, no, I do not want to know why he's doing this, okay? Because that made me rethink of the story that I'd read when I was kind of stupid in his hard drive, looking for movies and stuff. And I seen it. It's like, what's this? I looked at and read it, like, no, I don't want to know that's what he's planning on doing, because I don't.

[Narrator]

No.

[Wren (Lauren)]

Okay.

[Timothy Norton]

You know, if you remember correctly, when you said something about cannibalism when you first interviewed me, I said, tim, take my bloody shit. Tell me if I have. Because I myself didn't know I had. If I had.

[Narrator]

Hard to hear, but that was Tim telling the detectives that they might want to analyze his blood for human DNA like someone else, if that's possible. Because if he had partaken in Jim's sick cannibal fantasy, he didn't know about it. Yeah, sure, he's been to a few barbecues at Jim's since the murder, but who was to say, do you know,

[Interviewer/Detective]

if his intention was to consume, to eat some of that flesh?

[Timothy Norton]

At the time? Honestly, no. But since then, maybe.

[Interviewer/Detective]

Okay, why?

[Timothy Norton]

Maybe because he cut the genitalia out and he kept it.

[Interviewer/Detective]

And do you know what he did with the genitalia?

[Timothy Norton]

No, I did not.

[Interviewer/Detective]

Okay.

[Timothy Norton]

As far as I know, he threw it away. I don't know.

[Interviewer/Detective]

Have you told someone else something different?

[Timothy Norton]

No, I've had several people, and it's a running joke in the pods that I was a camel and that he used it to make a sandwich with and several things like that. Like I said, it's a running joke, you know, and I've done my best to inform everybody I didn't eat it, and I have no idea what you're talking about. And yet they still make a joke out of it. And sometimes we make jokes, you know, let other people, you know, just playing along with the cannibal situation. But I didn't eat any of it. I didn't touch it. I don't know what he did with it. You know, I know what I've heard. I know what I've seen on the news. Beyond that, I don't know anything else.

[Narrator]

Here's a good example of the way Tim would minimize. He pretended that he only went along with the jokes about cannibalism in jail because he didn't want any trouble. But he later admitted to signing autographs for money under the name Hannibal the Cannibal, while Jim stayed silent through the days following Cassidy's murder. All of Tim's minimizing and Amanda's beliefs that it was all a joke couldn't change the overwhelming evidence that both Jim and Tim had viciously murdered. Cassidy and Amanda knew about it. Eventually, the courtroom knew about it too.

[Courtroom Reporter]

Appearing in person for the first time since being charged in mid September, James Phelps was escorted into a Dallas county courtroom and asked if his defense was aware of the new first degree murder charge filed against him. The judge quickly took up his attorney's motion to set a bond with Phelps public defender, arguing Phelps is not a flight risk, having spent most of his life in the area.

[Interviewer/Detective]

Mr. Phelps does have significant ties to the community. He is a lifelong resident of the area with the exception of a brief stint in the military, and he did live in St. Louis for about three years.

[Courtroom Reporter]

Attorney Sam Gearhart says Phelps had only faced charges of writing bad checks and illegal hunting in the past. But prosecutors argue Phelps poses a danger to the community, especially those that are caring for Cassidy Rainwater's children children.

[Interviewer/Detective]

The state's position is he probably needs to be held a B for the

[Courtroom Reporter]

community safety, prosecuting attorney Jonathan Barker tells the court Phelps codefendant Timothy Norton confessed to deputies he and Phelps would search for potential victims online and at a local Walmart.

[Interviewer/Detective]

There's evidence that this particular defendant online is talking with potential victims that he's in attempting to persuade to appear at his location or to make themselves available to be picked up by himself or codependents to be brought back to his location where he discusses with them that he will in fact harm them or kill them.

[Courtroom Reporter]

And prosecutors also said tonight they are weighing all options in Phelps case, including possibly seeking the death penalty.

[Narrator]

By 2023, the courts had delivered their verdict. In April, Jim Phelps entered an Alford plea to first degree murder, meaning he knew that prosecutors had enough evidence to convict him, but he still maintained his innocence. The judge sentenced him to life in prison with the possibility of parole. In June, Timothy Norton pleaded guilty to the same charge and received an identical sentence, life without parole. As part of his plea agreement, charges of kidnapping and abandonment of a corpse were dropped. Cassidy's son Aiden has spoken about his mother, saying that even though his parents gave him up for adoption at the age of four, he loves her and knows she did her best. He admits that adoption was probably the best thing for him. He's had a good life. Aidan has grown up to be a very intelligent and talented young man who plays 35 different instruments and loves theater. This is what he said at his mom's funeral.

[Interviewer/Detective]

Think about the memories and

[Timothy Norton]

just how great they were.

[Interviewer/Detective]

She always loved the river. It was her favorite place and I remember her always singing to me as a baby. She was a great person. She was the hardest working mom I've ever known. And I'm so proud of her. And I wish she could know that today.

[Narrator]

Cassidy Rainwater died in the most horrible of circumstances. And what they did to her body after was beyond despicable. She may have fallen through the cracks at the time she landed on Jim's doorstep, but she was a mother, a daughter, and a friend. She just happened to be a woman who trusted the wrong people. But the question that lingers is bigger than Cassidy. Jim and Tim weren't just two isolated monsters who snapped one day. They were predators. And like all predators, they hunted where they knew the vulnerable lived. For them, it was mostly women on the margins, alone, struggling sometimes with no place to go. But this was changing. They started stalking in parking lots and restaurants. That's where Ren's insight becomes so important. It could have been her. She crossed paths with Tim before he was caught and put away. And her story shows how monsters like Jim and Tim operated not just with violence, but with patience, with manipulation. They looked for weakness, tested boundaries, and moved in slowly until it was too late. Fortunately for Ren, she knew what to look for. She works as an emt.

[Wren (Lauren)]

I don't think I've ever ran into another murderer, but I have, you know, worked cases where people are being trafficked and like, on the side of the road, we're getting people out of cars who are being taken against their will. And it's a lot of the same behavior. It's a lot of that, like, I'm out to make you uncomfortable and I'm betting that you're not going to say anything about it. They look for people who kind of don't hold themselves high, who kind of, you shrink your shoulders, you make yourself small, you stay out of the way. And a lot of people think that, like, being out of sight, in a way makes them a little safer. And it just makes it easier for the people who don't want to do horrible things you, to not notice you, to not see you when you need help. And like a lot of. I've read a lot of studies about serial killers and, you know, the way that they pick their victims is who's the smallest person in the room that doesn't look very sure of themselves.

[Narrator]

Cassidy may have been vulnerable, but she was strong willed and stubborn, according to everyone who knew her, that is. But see, Jim and Tim didn't seek her out. She landed there. And she became a problem for them because she didn't want to give in to their demands. She didn't want a sexual relationship with Jim. Even Tim acknowledged that, and she paid for it with her life.

[Wren (Lauren)]

Another thing that I wanted to touch on is, like, the packaged meat of it all. The cannibalism was the craziest part of it for me to read because it was one of those things. Especially, like, again, as the information is coming out, you see it and it's so out there and weird and wrong that you kind of don't want to believe it. But then again, like, and especially getting in the line of work that I'm in now, there are definitely people that, like, beyond your worst imagination, will do things like that or kind of surround themselves with people that are cool with stuff like that. I don't know. I don't know if society as a whole just wants to push all the ugly stuff under the rug and don't think about it. And that happens far away and, you know, it'll never be my problem. And a lot of this stuff is happening, like, in these tiny, middle of nowhere unincorporated towns and, like, counties that have just woods forever. It's hiding kind of in plain sight.

[Narrator]

Dallas county police didn't find evidence that the human meat in Jim's freezer was ever shared sold. But absence of evidence isn't evidence of absence. Bon appetit. That's gonna do it for another one. If you're new here, head on over to swordandscale.com for more until next week. Stay safe. Mike, you are so funny. You crack me up, dude.

[Interviewer/Detective]

Keep doing what you're doing.

[Narrator]

You're making so many people laugh.

[Courtroom Reporter]

But we don't speak out.

[Amanda Cowley]

You know what I mean? So all you hear is the negative

[Narrator]

from the neg, you know, negative, negative. Take care, Mike, and thank you.

[Timothy Norton]

Don't believe they hate us. Sa.