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COP30 wrapped in Belém after two weeks, and the final deal landed with a weak punch. No fossil-fuel phaseout, no major breakthrough. So what does this outcome mean? And with Taiwan hosting an unprecedented pavilion in the Green Zone, what role is Taiwan carving out in global climate politics? In this episode, I speak with climate scientist Rachel Cleetus and NGO worker Jack Huang to break it down.

3:08 — Is clean energy development on track for 1.5°C?
8:10 — Why doesn’t Taiwan have a country pavilion?
11:38 — How did Taiwan secure a presence in the Green Zone?
15:10 — Why should Taiwan care about COP at all?
22:15 — Why the climate crisis isn’t a zero-sum game

Host: Kwangyin Liu, Senior Managing Editor of CommonWealth Magazine
Guest: Rachel Cleetus, Union of Concerned Scientists and Jack Huang, Project Coordinator of United Nations OICT

Producers: Yayuan Chang, Weiru Wang

＊Read our COP30 coverage： https://english.cw.com.tw/article/article.action?id=4446
＊Share your thoughts：bill@cw.com.tw