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Hullin 34: How Impure Is Your Meat?
2d ago00:16:24Tap to summarizeMore on how to understand the mishnah -- and whether the level of sanctity raised there is potentially really that of terumah, or perhaps that of sacrificial offerings (and how that would be determined). Note that terumah is only ever a gift from one's produce - that which grows from the ground, and it would not be confused with meat (in contrast to the sacrificial meat as compared to regular non-sacred meat, which makes more sense in the context of the mishnah). [Who's Who: Ullah] Also, what happens if a person eats impure food? Well, first, how impure is the food?
Transcribe →Hullin 33: Impure Hands, More and Less
3d ago00:16:30Tap to summarizeA new mishnah! What happens if the animal doesn't bleed at the time of shechitah? Apparently, that's a kosher shechitah. And one's impure hands won't render the meat impure (unless the slaughtering itself made it susceptible to impurity, and not just the liquid of the blood). The Gemara reexplains the mishnah to explain that the mishnah could not be talking about sacrificial foods, with several follow-up points to make the case that much stronger. Also, the Gemara delves into the impure hands, and what degree of impurity they may carry. Plus, the case of someone who purifies his hands and then exposes them to impure hands again - depending on how much exposure his whole body received, it may make a difference for what degree of impurity do his hand carry.
Transcribe →Hullin 32: Invalid Shechitah
4d ago00:13:43Tap to summarize2 mishnayot! 1 - A person is slaughtering an animal and the knife falls and he picks it up to complete the slaughtering... as long as the shechitah is completed in the time that it would take to slaughter the animal to begin with, that's kosher. If it takes more time, then it's not a valid shechitah. But different animals - and fowl - take different amounts of time to do the shechitah. Does the statement of "shechting the animal" apply to every animal/bird, or does the time fluctuate depending on the animal/bird at hand? 2 - What if only one of the simanim/pipes were severed correctly, of the esophagus and trachea? If the animal is unfit, it is presented as a treyfa - but then the Gemara addresses such cases as a neveilah.
Transcribe →Hullin 31: The Question of Intent - Again
5d ago00:20:53Tap to summarizeA new mishnah! In the case of a knife fell and slaughtered the animal officially correctly, the shechitah is not actually kosher because a person must be involved doing the slaughtering. But if a person dropped the knife, even without intent, then the person is there as an agent, and the shechitah may well be kosher. The question is whether intent is required for shechitah to be valid. Also, the case of produce that falls into a channel of water, and the produce is removed by a person who has impure hands - but the process itself will purify his hands. The water is one of 7 liquids that, when in contact with produce, makes the produce susceptible to impurity. Plus, the levels of purity and impurity - and how immersion in the mikveh to be purified requires intent for the required level of purity to follow - for example, to eat ma'aser sheni food. Which seems to require more planning than we might have thought.
Transcribe →Hullin 30: The Many Paths to Shechitah
6d ago00:16:52Tap to summarizeIf there's more than one incision in the pipe, can that be kosher shechitah? It's a machloket. What about 2 people holding the knife for one animal's slaughter? That's one incision, but 2 people with 2 knives, which means 2 incisions, and it has all kinds of insecurities associated with it - and could result in non-kosher shechitah, but we really don't worry about that, and allow it. Note the many cases of shechitah that are left without conclusions. Also, a new mishnah: 1 person who slaughters 2 animals simultaneously; likewise, the 2 people holding one knife (as presented in the Gemara on the daf right before the mishnah), even with 2 cuts -- all of those cases are kosher shechitah. But decapitation in one motion is not considered valid. With the possibility of it being kosher if the length of the knife is the breadth of the animal's neck.
Transcribe →Hullin 29: The Impact of the Collective on 50/50
1w ago00:17:45Tap to summarizeMore on the question of when a siman is cut precisely halfway across - is that 50/50 considered the majority or not? (it's still a machloket). With the parallel to the requirement that at least half of the population of the Jews need to be pure to be able to participate in the Pesach sacrifice. That 50/50 seems to be acceptable, rather than leaving a full half of the people to make up the sacrifice on Pesach Sheni (14th of Iyar). But as much as this example is brought in parallel to the shechitah case, they're also quite different. Also, when is the action of slaughtering actually considered to be an act of shechitah? From the beginning of the process or only once it has been concluded? The practical implication being for incomplete draws of the knife and so on.
Transcribe →Hullin 28: Making the Best of an Imprecise Mechanism
1w ago00:20:04Tap to summarizeOn the bird's "one siman" being severed, does it make a difference which of the esophagus or the trachea is cut? It's a machloket, whether "either one" is enough or one specific one needs to be cut. The Gemara provides a mnemonic to support 5 different arguments, half of which support the one view above and the other half the other view. Plus, the order of when the simanim themselves are examined in the context of shechitah, and then the order of cutting. Also, what if one of the simanim were cut to be 50/50 cut/not cut -- does that count as the majority being cut or not at all cut? But how can anyone be certain, to that degree of precision?
Transcribe →Hullin 27: Ritual Slaughtering
1w ago00:21:45Tap to summarizeChapter 2! A new mishnah... On slaughtering a "bird," where cutting one "siman" (windpipe or gullet) is sufficient for kosher shechitah, or an "animal" - that requires both simanim for kosher shechitah. Which leads to a discussion of partial completion of cutting, and how much must be cut to be considered as if it were cut in full for a kosher shechitah. Plus, sourcing "shechitah" in the Torah and the fact that it's done at the neck of the animal. Also, a "drasha" on how an animal's shechitah is kosher, how fish are killed, without a requirement for shechitah, why fowl only require the severing of one pipe, and more. Plus, the interpretations that shed light on the domesticated animals as compared to the non-domesticated animals, which seem to have lesser requirements.
Transcribe →Hullin 26: Servitude, Seduction, Refusal, Halitzah, and Havdalah
1w ago00:17:01Tap to summarizeAnother 2 mishnayot: 1 - In the case of a girl who's to be sold to be a servant, if she is sold, then her father would not receive a fine in the event of her being raped or seduced, because it's a full sale. And vice versa. 2 - In the case of refusal, there's no halitzah, and vice versa. But there is a case of refusal, where a non-minor girl can refuse, and also would be eligible for halitzah. Also, the horn blasts calling for the coming Shabbat or festival, the terms are different for each, with details regarding Havdalah, as well, in its respective proximity to the day of the festival (before or after). (Note the holiday preceding Shabbat, as we just experienced with Shavuot and Shabbat)
Transcribe →Hullin 25: Snippets of Caveats
2w ago00:13:48Tap to summarize2 small mishnayot: 1. On vessels of wood and metal, how they each have that which is stringent and that which is lenient, as compared to the other. 2. On bitter almonds and sweet almonds, how they each have that which is obligated in the one and exempt in the other, and vice versa. Note the two different kinds of almond trees. And note that roasting almonds counteracts the cyanide at its core. Also, on "Temed" - an fermented ersatz grape juice that is not initially eligible for purchase with ma'aser sheni money -- and it would invalidate a mikveh -- until it's truly fermented. Plus, orphan brothers who are exempt from tithing their animals, but need to separate them nonetheless.
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