Sergio Talks Boys EXPOSED - Who They Really Are

Summary

Tall Blonde Podcast Summary Episode: "Sergio Talks Boys EXPOSED - Who They Really Are"
Host: Sarah Lauren
Presented by MBHTV
Release Date: January 24, 2025

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1. Introduction and Podcast Dynamics

In this episode of Tall Blonde, host Sarah Lauren delves into the men's perspective on dating and relationships by bringing in members from the podcast team—Sergio, Matt, and Carl. The conversation kicks off with light-hearted banter about the podcast's longevity and rumors of a potential breakup, which are quickly dismissed.

Notable Quote:

• Jason (Host) [00:16]: "Hello, everybody, and welcome back to Tall Blonde. Now, we're doing things a little differently today."

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2. Audience Demographics and Podcast Approach

Sergio explains that while their podcast primarily attracts a female audience (approximately 80%), they aim to balance perspectives by addressing topics relevant to both men and women. The team emphasizes honesty and authenticity, avoiding unnecessary negativity towards women and maintaining an open dialogue.

Notable Quote:

• Sergio [02:11]: "We just say things how they are. And I think the thing, too, is that we call ourselves out on our own, too, because we're not perfect."

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3. Handling Conflicts and Relationship Issues

The discussion shifts to how men handle conflicts in relationships. Carl and Sergio share their strategies for managing unnecessary disputes, often choosing to reduce attention or disengage rather than escalate arguments. This approach is contrasted with female behaviors, where sometimes conflicts are initiated to gain attention.

Notable Quotes:

• Carl [06:03]: "If you make no sense... I'm just gonna continue to do whatever I do."
• Jason [06:49]: "Sometimes girls start fights because they want more attention from their significant other."

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4. Dating Behaviors and Attention Seeking

Jason brings up the idea that some women might instigate conflicts to receive more attention from their partners. The team discusses the implications of such behaviors, debating whether it's a genuine attempt to connect or a misguided way to sustain interest.

Notable Quote:

• Jason [06:49]: "Sometimes girls start fights because they want more attention from their significant other."

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5. Strategies for Meeting Potential Partners

Moving on to practical advice, Sergio and the team advocate for meeting potential partners through shared interests and activities rather than relying on dating apps or bars. They suggest engaging in hobbies like gym workouts, cooking classes, or pottery to foster genuine connections based on common passions.

Notable Quote:

• Sergio [24:00]: "People just need to stick away from dating apps and just meet people by doing things that you love."

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6. Opinions on Dating Platforms: Apps vs. In-Person Meetings

The conversation delves deeper into the effectiveness of dating apps compared to in-person interactions. Sergio expresses skepticism about finding meaningful relationships in casual settings like bars, emphasizing that such environments often prioritize short-term hookups over long-term compatibility.

Notable Quote:

• Sergio [25:22]: "We cannot find either or at the bar."

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7. The Role of Physical Attraction and Standards

Physical attraction is a recurring theme, with each member sharing their preferences and deal-breakers. They discuss body types, style, and the importance of a "pretty face," while also addressing the double standards in societal expectations for men and women regarding physical appearance.

Notable Quotes:

• Matt [09:58]: "Whenever I ask a bunch of questions and then it's just simple answers... That's what turns me off."
• Carl [36:17]: "I like pretty faces and nice vibes. 10 out of 10."

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8. Lifestyle Compatibility and Relationships

Lifestyle choices play a crucial role in relationship compatibility. The team discusses the importance of aligning on activities, such as drinking habits, socializing, and career focus. They emphasize that differing lifestyles can lead to incompatibility, even if there is initial physical attraction.

Notable Quotes:

• Sergio [27:31]: "I wanted to focus on my career... I give a lot of energy to my girl whenever I have one."
• Carl [43:05]: "I want to see you in that lifestyle. If you act right in your own lifestyle, then it's fine."

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9. Personal Experiences and Advice

Jason shares a harrowing personal experience of a bad date where he felt uncomfortable and ultimately felt unsafe. This leads to a discussion on the importance of setting boundaries, sharing location with friends, and recognizing red flags early in the dating process.

Notable Quote:

• Jason [57:40]: "He was drunk and trying to grab me. It was a very uncomfortable situation."

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10. The Importance of Trust and Mutual Respect

The episode concludes with an emphasis on trust and mutual respect in relationships. The team advocates for open communication about boundaries and expectations, ensuring that both partners feel secure and valued without compromising their individual lifestyles and goals.

Notable Quotes:

• Matt [46:14]: "I'm big on trust. So whenever I'm dating you, you could do whatever you want... but let me know what you're doing for safety purposes."
• Carl [43:04]: "We understand each other’s boundaries. If you go over them, then this is where we have an issue."

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Concluding Thoughts

This episode of Tall Blonde offers a candid exploration of men's perspectives on dating, highlighting the importance of authenticity, mutual respect, and lifestyle compatibility. Through personal anecdotes and practical advice, the team provides valuable insights for listeners navigating the complexities of modern relationships.

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Notable Overall Quote:

• Sergio [22:24]: "Why are you single? It's super simple."

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This comprehensive summary captures the essence of the episode, providing detailed insights into the discussions on dating dynamics, relationship management, and personal experiences shared by the podcast team.

Transcript

[Carl]

If we f. Ck on a first date doesn't mean that you're not wifey material, because my six year relationship was on the first date. Yeah.

[Matt]

I feel like you can find love anywhere. You can find love in a bar.

[Sergio]

Yeah. So why are you single? I mean, there's no point arguing what the other person's going through. It's better just acknowledge it and then do something about it rather than kind of just try to be a little bit.

[Jason]

Sometimes girls start fights because they want more attention from their significant other. When you guys weren't in relationships, do you have rosters or was it free war of like. Hello, everybody, and welcome back to Tall Blonde. Now, we're doing things a little differently today. I know a lot of you want to know the men's perspective on things, and I don't really know why, but I will have it to you. Okay, here it is. I want you guys to kind of go through who you are and what you guys do, so take it away.

[Sergio]

I'm Sergio. These are my sons.

[Matt]

Okay.

[Carl]

I'm. I'm Carl.

[Matt]

I'm.

[Carl]

Don't. I'm.

[Sergio]

Wait, hold on. You're messing her up.

[Jason]

I just met them today. Okay. So, like, I'm learning as much as you are when they introduce themselves.

[Sergio]

I'm Sergio. This is Matt, and that's Carl.

[Matt]

What's up?

[Jason]

Okay, so I know you guys are very. Oh, no, go ahead.

[Sergio]

No, no. I was going to say.

[Jason]

Okay.

[Sergio]

We never know by the end of this episode.

[Jason]

Oh.

[Matt]

Oh, you got me blushing.

[Jason]

Do you think we'd work?

[Sergio]

Yeah.

[Jason]

Oh, wow. Is this, like, a setup?

[Sergio]

Maybe Jason did it. Jason said you guys can't see it.

[Matt]

But I'm actually blushing right now.

[Jason]

Oh, okay. So how long have you guys been podcasting for?

[Sergio]

Two years in November. So we just did our second year anniversary.

[Jason]

Oh, wow. Congrats. That's awesome. And has it. Go ahead.

[Sergio]

It was.

[Carl]

It was fun to be with them for two years.

[Matt]

You're acting like if we're done.

[Jason]

The team's actually breaking up. And I got the first take on.

[Carl]

It was. It was fun things.

[Sergio]

Stop saying it was. It is. We're not breaking up.

[Matt]

I know you're stuck.

[Carl]

It's just so, like, you know.

[Jason]

Okay, okay, let's just dive into it.

[Sergio]

I'm about to interview three misogynists.

[Jason]

I didn't know. The one episode I listened to, I was like, all right, we can. We can talk about anything on this.

[Sergio]

Yeah, no, for sure. We're open books about it. We've kind of like a Big part of our growth of the podcast, which. It was us kind of talking purple pill, which is like, we're not on either or side.

[Jason]

Yeah.

[Sergio]

I think that we spoke about how there's a balance between the two, and I think it resonated a lot with women and also with men. Also.

[Jason]

Yeah.

[Sergio]

But, like, the majority of our audience are women, and I think we just have a good.

[Jason]

Really?

[Sergio]

Yeah, like, at 80 20.

[Jason]

Wow. I wouldn't have thought that, because I would have thought that guys would just like. Like to almost, like, shoot the shit with you, but not actually being there. But girls. Yeah, I guess. Like, you're attractive guys, so they probably want to watch you, too.

[Sergio]

Yeah, well, hopefully they like to hear what we say also.

[Carl]

Yeah. It's also what we said.

[Jason]

I'm like, they want to look at you.

[Carl]

We don't talk bad about women. We just actually say what we want to say, and then girls like it. You know, we're.

[Sergio]

We're kind of equal to everybody. We put down anybody who deserves to be put down. Yeah. Or girls.

[Jason]

Yeah, I agree with that.

[Sergio]

I think it always depends on how you deliver the message.

[Jason]

Absolutely. And people can be offended on whatever. Like, I give advice on my channel on, you know, how to's and things for dating. But, I mean, you can agree with it all you want. People agree. But I do get it because I do have a lot of guys that follow my page, too, and I think they like a different perspective. So it is nice that you kind of give the girls an in of, like, what you're thinking and why you're thinking it.

[Sergio]

Exactly.

[Jason]

The secrets.

[Sergio]

Yeah. Yeah.

[Jason]

Does anyone get mad at, like, do you get a lot of, like, hate back or controversial?

[Sergio]

No. Yeah. Don't start.

[Jason]

Yeah. Just like, oh, I'm bringing my people in there. They're rowdy. I don't know.

[Sergio]

Because I don't think we say anything. Like, I don't think we say anything that you could kind of argue against, because we just say things how they are. And I think the thing, too, is that we call ourselves out on our own, too, because we're not perfect.

[Jason]

Yeah.

[Sergio]

So I think that's something that, like, just further extends our authenticity, is that if any of us are fudgeing up in any way, shape or form, like, we call each other out on it on the.

[Carl]

On the podcast. Yeah.

[Jason]

Yeah.

[Matt]

So it gets crazy.

[Jason]

Yeah. Oh, yeah, it gets crazy. I was listening back on yesterday. I was driving back to Toronto, and I was like, holy shit. They went there. It was good. I enjoyed. I listened to the whole thing. Didn't even, like, fast forward anything. It was good your exes were in this room. What would they say about you?

[Matt]

Any. Nothing bad, actually. I think I'm. I'm a good ex.

[Jason]

Really?

[Matt]

I think.

[Carl]

Yeah, I think nothing bad, actually. Actually, I did change his name at some point in my phone. To him? Yes.

[Matt]

Okay.

[Carl]

Because his exes say good things about him, so he's him.

[Jason]

Really?

[Carl]

Even if, like a finish that, like, their exes say good things about him.

[Matt]

I can't fight. I don't do fights. Like, if anything, not. Not even. It's just because whenever there's like, an argument or anything like that, I just. We just talk it out.

[Sergio]

Or we literally just end up not talking anymore.

[Matt]

No. What do you mean?

[Sergio]

I mean, if you guys don't resolve the. The issue.

[Matt]

Oh, no. Yeah, I guess. Yeah. But it's just. It's simple. I just laugh at it, or she laughs at it. We end up just having fun, you know?

[Jason]

Is it the girls that you pick that just don't really care about conflict, or is it just.

[Matt]

I guess. No, actually, no. I've had one that liked conflict. She said she wanted to me see me mad, but, like, I. I can't get what I about.

[Sergio]

Why do girls say that?

[Jason]

I, like, like seeing a guy mad or like, how we'll handle a situation. It's kind of sexy. Like, it's like, okay, how mad can I really get you? Like, you want to poke their buttons and it's like, masculine, you know, Like a guy getting mad. Why A girl getting Madison?

[Sergio]

Nope.

[Jason]

You hate it. Is it a turn off?

[Carl]

I don't like.

[Sergio]

It depends how mad. And depends what? She's mad about me.

[Carl]

It's the sense behind it. If you make no sense. And I know and you know that. We know that. We all know that it makes no sense, but you just do it just to do it. It pisses me off.

[Matt]

You're logical as fuck.

[Carl]

Yeah, that's the issue.

[Jason]

And it would, like, piss you off in a sense of, like, that's an ick. I don't even want to date you anymore. Or it pisses you off. Just. You can let it go.

[Carl]

No, no, I'm gonna let it go, but, like, I'm not gonna give you any attention or energy if I know it makes no sense. I'm just gonna continue to do whatever I do. If I know that you have an issue. Let's say you're pms. Like, that's fine. Whatever is going through, like, it's fine. I Get it. But like, if it just makes no sense and you just start something out of nowhere, I'm not, I don't have time for that. I just, I think it's useless.

[Jason]

But sometimes girls start fights because they want more attention from like their significant other. Like, you'll start a little bit and get a little feisty so it like amps up the. So the guy, like, I don't really know how to explain it. It's more of like you're wanting that more attention. So you need to get it into making him mad or making him jealous or something like that.

[Carl]

I understand. Yeah, I understand that. But me, I'm the opposite. If you start getting on my nerve, I give you less attention. That's the issue. So rather just stay on the good side. I'm gonna give you all the attention in the world, but if you start just like getting mad out of nothing, I'm just gonna start doing my thing and give you less attention. So it's like a lose, lose situation for both of us.

[Sergio]

Yeah, I don't really react to those kind of situations either.

[Carl]

It's just like.

[Jason]

But think of it in like, Like I've had relationships that were four years, five years long. Sometimes you do got to spice it up a little bit. You got to poke a button and have a little argument so you can have, you know, better sex and things like that.

[Sergio]

Yeah, that's fair. But I feel like if you're resolving to get spice out of arguing, then that means the relationship is going down like a slippery slope.

[Jason]

So you're telling me my relationships were just horrible?

[Sergio]

Well, I mean, I think they were just coming to an end.

[Jason]

Yeah, maybe they probably would agree with you on that one, but that's fine. Okay, so let's get into X. Because I gave my ex on social media and guys were like, you need to have a guy's perspective over there, the biggest X. And like, what would turn you totally off of a girl? Like, you're seeing someone, you're talking to her, and you're actually enjoying her company. You're maybe on like date three or something that you would be like, okay, I can't, I can't continue this.

[Sergio]

If she's too much on her phone.

[Matt]

This a thousand percent.

[Sergio]

Yeah, I can't do that.

[Jason]

And what. Can you explain that though? Like, in what way?

[Sergio]

Yeah, no, absolutely. So actually.

[Carl]

Based on real events, I.

[Sergio]

Did a mistake of going on a date with someone in Toronto and. But this was your.

[Jason]

Why the mistake of going on a date with someone in Toronto?

[Carl]

You'll see.

[Sergio]

And anyways, I just. I was. I was trying to impress. I wanted to go out to a nice dinner, and then for the whole night, she was just on her. On her phone. And I think I'm pretty good at, like, keeping a conversation, so I'm like, yeah, the conversations. But then I just, like, see from like the corner of my eye just like half swiping on Snapchat, which is crazy. Yeah, Yeah, I was one of those. So. Yeah.

[Jason]

How old was she?

[Sergio]

I think she was. She was two years younger than me at the time.

[Jason]

How old are you guys?

[Sergio]

I'm 28, 26, 25.

[Jason]

Okay.

[Sergio]

I think at the time I was 24. So she was like 22, and I was just a. No bueno.

[Jason]

I was gonna say maybe she's like, uncomfortable or, like, awkward.

[Sergio]

I think she's just from Toronto.

[Jason]

Okay, but why is that? Like, I'm from Toronto. I take a personal events to that.

[Sergio]

I mean, listen, it might be just from, like, which. Which part of Toronto? Shoot. Actually, to be fair, she was from Vaughn.

[Jason]

Oh, Vaughn. It's like outside of Toronto.

[Sergio]

Yeah, yeah, Essentially outside of Toronto.

[Jason]

We don't do.

[Sergio]

She was from Vaughn. She would drive.

[Carl]

No, but she said outside of Toronto, so it doesn't associate to Toronto.

[Jason]

Exactly.

[Carl]

Oh, okay.

[Jason]

So you can't.

[Sergio]

I just assimilate all, like, all surroundings.

[Jason]

You can't put that on me. I'm a Toronto girl. You can't say that all of us go on our phone. You know what I mean?

[Sergio]

No, that's fair.

[Jason]

Thank you.

[Sergio]

That's fair.

[Jason]

I take it back clarifying that. Thank you.

[Carl]

What's your ick?

[Matt]

My ache, I think, because I like to yap a lot. I talk a ton.

[Carl]

Yeah. Really? A lot.

[Matt]

Okay.

[Sergio]

It doesn't stop.

[Matt]

Yeah. Both of you. So I think whenever, like, I ask a bunch of questions and then it's just simple answers. I like, what's your. What you like to eat? Or anything? I say, oh, pasta, you know, not. And you.

[Sergio]

No.

[Matt]

No interest, really. So that's. That's. That turns me off.

[Jason]

Yeah, I think that that's also like common sense of it. I'm guessing you're gonna ask. Or maybe she just didn't really care about you.

[Matt]

Maybe I went and I was like, yeah, this is not gonna work, you know? And she laughed the whole time. She was having fun. She looked like she was having fun when I was talking, I was like.

[Jason]

Just boring, you know, Maybe she's just bad at communication.

[Matt]

Maybe she is, but it nope's not.

[Jason]

Bullet yes, there you go. I agree with that one. That's fine.

[Carl]

But mine is the same as.

[Sergio]

Ah, don't do that.

[Jason]

Yeah, you can't. There's so many things that you can have ick about.

[Carl]

Okay, well, they're the basic. If you're, you're. You have attitude to the waiter. Done. Yeah, like, it's done. It's like, yeah, right away. But like, like those things. If the conversation is one sided and it's done, but I'm more raw than these, these guys. Like, I'm like, done. Done right away. Like, I'll just.

[Jason]

What do you mean by that?

[Carl]

I'm not talking to you. I'll just leave. I'll be like, okay, enjoy, night. And then.

[Jason]

So you're stubborn.

[Carl]

No, I'm not stubborn. Hear me out. What's. What's being stubborn? If you're being, if you're being rude to the waiter, if you're, you're just not nice, I'll just cut the date short. We're not gonna waste each other's time. You're not my.

[Jason]

Yeah. How would you do that? How would you cut the date?

[Sergio]

As blunt as you could possibly imagine.

[Jason]

He's serious.

[Sergio]

Yeah.

[Carl]

Straightforward.

[Matt]

I'm sorry, this is not gonna work. Have a good night.

[Sergio]

Yeah, it'll be just like this. Well, anyways, I just don't think this is working out. Yeah.

[Jason]

Oh, my God. That's cr. Would you pay for the bill?

[Carl]

Yeah, yeah. 100. I'm not gonna leave like that. And then you pay for the bill. No, I'll pay for the bill and I'll just let you know, like, he'll.

[Sergio]

Pay for the bill, like, on the way out.

[Carl]

Yeah.

[Jason]

No way.

[Carl]

Yeah.

[Jason]

The girl would cry herself to sleep.

[Carl]

No, but I'm. Listen.

[Jason]

Well, how would you say it? Like, would you be nice and be like, it's not you?

[Carl]

No, no, I'm not ready for a relationship.

[Jason]

Yeah.

[Sergio]

I was gonna say it's not me. It is you.

[Carl]

Honestly. I'm gonna be honest, but I'm not gonna be rude to, like, hurt your feelings. I'm just gonna say, like, how it is. If I feel like I. Listen, I think I'm not your type. You're not my type. We're not each other's type. Listen, just do you. I'm. Do me and I'll move on.

[Matt]

Why go on a date then?

[Jason]

Yeah. Then she'd be like, well, why'd you waste my time? What if she said, well, why'd you waste my time?

[Sergio]

Well, wait, hold on. To be fair, he Only found out after they were in each other's type at the date.

[Carl]

Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, right, of course, of course. But anyway, so.

[Jason]

Yeah, okay, so you're, you're blunt.

[Carl]

Yeah. Or like example, one time, the, the date was very, very one sided, like having a conversation with the wall. So I just said, where'd you park your car? And she was like, oh, like over there. I said, okay, I'm gonna walk you to your car. And then that's it.

[Jason]

Other ways they'd cry themselves asleep. Girls are like, emotional. Any of you have sisters?

[Sergio]

Yeah.

[Jason]

Yeah, you all do. Oh, I love that. Because when you have a sister, you kind of see, you know, the female perspective, emotions and perspectives and how they act or react to things when they get treated like shitty by a guy. So you probably see it like, do you have friends that don't have sisters that you're like, it's a difference.

[Sergio]

Yeah, yeah, definitely. I think that's what plays a big part as to who we are as men and how we treat women. We're all very close to our mothers and, and to our sisters too. Like when my parents divorce, I spent a lot of time with only my mom and my sister. All girls household kind of thing.

[Jason]

You were surrounded by the female energy. No, I made a rule for 2025. I'm not gonna date anyone that doesn't have a sister because it doesn't end well if they don't. They just don't get it. Yeah, you don't understand. Especially if they have like a few brothers, then it's chaos. Chaos. And they're just like crazy energy.

[Carl]

Would you say you're very emotional?

[Jason]

No. I don't even remember the last time I cried. Like, I don't do that emotional stuff. I find it like, weird, but if I'm on my period, then I'm like, I'm a, like, watch out.

[Sergio]

It's fair. You guys are allowed.

[Jason]

Are we allowed?

[Sergio]

Like, yeah. Yeah.

[Jason]

Okay.

[Sergio]

Because we, we did like the period cramp testing. You guys are good. No comments.

[Jason]

Is that the only reason why, though? Like, if you didn't do that, would you be the same way?

[Sergio]

I mean, look, I think, I think part of being just a human being is being trying to put yourself in positions of the other person, even if you physically can. So, I mean, there's no point arguing what the other person's going through. It's better just acknowledge it and then do something about it, rather than deny how they feel and kind of just try to belittle them.

[Jason]

Yeah, no, I agree. So when you guys weren't in relationships and dating and stuff, did you have rosters or was it for you more of like solo, one girl? And don't lie, because people watching this.

[Sergio]

I find a term roster very degrading.

[Carl]

Yeah, really?

[Jason]

Because I love it.

[Sergio]

No, no, I'm joking. Yeah, no, for sure. We had rosters. Matt had multiple rosters.

[Carl]

Throwing me under the bus.

[Jason]

What do you mean by that, though?

[Sergio]

I'm joking. It's just we all have.

[Jason]

I don't think you're joking.

[Carl]

Yeah, I'm joking.

[Sergio]

Me personally, I went for like, through like a. Through like a course of events. Like, like after breakups. Like this last breakup, I was like, yo, everybody. Like, I just. I don't want to date. I just want to do me and I just want to have fun. So I was always treating people with respect. It's just that I wasn't going on dates. I was not dating anybody. I didn't go on no dates. Because going on dates for me personally means that it's leaning towards something serious if ever were clicking.

[Jason]

But you were probably still hooking up with people.

[Sergio]

Yeah, yeah, yeah.

[Jason]

But did they have it in?

[Sergio]

It was not on.

[Jason]

It was still like a. That's a. That's still its own roster of, like, girls that you would hit up.

[Sergio]

Yeah, I guess so. But like, we, like. I. I don't think I saw a girl more than once. Correct me if I'm wrong.

[Jason]

Really?

[Sergio]

Maybe one girl.

[Jason]

How did they feel about that? Did you get some, like, crazy girls coming at you after?

[Carl]

No, I'm.

[Sergio]

I'm looking to them, like, in case I forget, but I don't think so.

[Carl]

I don't think no more than once? No, no.

[Sergio]

But yeah, I would only see them.

[Jason]

Did you tell them, like, I just want to you.

[Carl]

I mean, they kind of know what's up.

[Sergio]

Yeah, it's kind of.

[Jason]

How would they kind of know what's up?

[Sergio]

Taking you on a date. Like, we're not going for dinner. We're not doing. Like you're coming over. So it's kind of like ridden.

[Jason]

Like, was it like a late night thing?

[Carl]

Yeah.

[Matt]

Okay. There's.

[Carl]

It's like, if you come over, you come over, you know what's up.

[Sergio]

Yeah.

[Jason]

And then they left right after you hooked up?

[Sergio]

I mean, not right after.

[Matt]

No goodbye.

[Carl]

Like, they.

[Sergio]

They don't spend the night at.

[Jason]

And you didn't even stay friends. How many of them were there?

[Sergio]

No, I don't know.

[Carl]

These guys are my.

[Sergio]

These guys are my bookkeepers.

[Jason]

More. Less than 5. More less than or more than 10?

[Matt]

I think it was around 10. I was like, please, not more, not more than that. From what I remember, it was under 10 even.

[Sergio]

He's my bookkeeper anyways.

[Jason]

And is that like a lot in guys or is that like normal?

[Sergio]

Okay, well, hold on. For reference. I was a guy who was always in relationships.

[Matt]

True.

[Sergio]

So already as, as. As a total body count, it was low coming out of my relationships. Like this time I told him, like, I, I don't want to have anything to do with relationships. And it wasn't to go and, you know, accumulate bodies. It was not that at all. It just, you know, it wasn't for the number. It just happened.

[Carl]

No, man actually forgot to mention he went on syllabus here.

[Jason]

Oh, wow.

[Carl]

Six months or so.

[Sergio]

Yeah.

[Carl]

And then you got into another relationship for a year or maybe, whatever.

[Sergio]

Yeah.

[Carl]

And then after a little under a.

[Sergio]

Year, then after that relationship, I was like, I'm going to just focus on myself. And then everything was happening at the same time. We were traveling, so there's a lot of things that was. That were happening. And I just wanted to make sure that before I settle down for my next relationship, I just got it. Enjoyed life to the fullest. Oh, yeah. No. And yeah, just make sure that when. When the time comes that, that I settle down, that I. I lived all the experiences that I wanted to live to the basic capabilities.

[Jason]

Good.

[Sergio]

Yeah.

[Jason]

Proud of you.

[Sergio]

Thank you.

[Jason]

And your guys. Rosters. History. Rosters.

[Carl]

Well, same as him. I was always in a relationship. I was in a relationship for five, six years. Ish. And then after I got single and then we went on a TV show.

[Jason]

What TV show?

[Carl]

Love Island.

[Jason]

For Love Island.

[Sergio]

Like local. In our province.

[Carl]

Yeah.

[Jason]

Usa.

[Carl]

No, there's not in Canada.

[Jason]

There's one in Canada.

[Carl]

Yeah.

[Jason]

No way. Okay.

[Matt]

That's what we met, actually.

[Carl]

Yeah, that's how we met.

[Jason]

Are you. Wait, so where are you guys from?

[Carl]

What do you mean?

[Sergio]

Like originally in Toronto? No, no.

[Jason]

Oh, Montreal. Okay.

[Carl]

Montreal. Yeah. So we met and I, well, won the show with a girl. So essentially I was in a relationship for a couple months with a girl. And then after that, then I was single. Pringle. So I was.

[Jason]

Oh, it didn't end well on the show. You didn't?

[Carl]

No, no, no. Well, the show ended well.

[Jason]

Did either of you win?

[Carl]

I. I won with the girl.

[Jason]

You won away. Congrats.

[Carl]

Yeah, thank you.

[Sergio]

Go. Well, I was just going to say. So you were kind of like forced into the relationship. Well, it happened through the show that you were In a relationship.

[Carl]

He was going to stay with her regardless. Well, I, I, we learned to date each other after the show. Anyways, I don't want to talk about that. And so, whatever. We dated for a couple months, and then after I got single, and then I was really, like, just like he said, just vibing. But like, you know when you just ask, like, do the girl know? Yeah, they know. Like I be saying, oh, you told them. They know what's up. They really know what's up. I don't be wasting time. He's a direct, very direct. I don't, I don't want to waste time. I don't want to, like, listen, what do you want? This is what I want. You don't want that. Totally respect that.

[Jason]

I'm happy that you're saying that because I feel like not a lot of guys do.

[Carl]

I'm just say it straight because why waste time? And also, why make you come over if you don't want something? I don't. And I'm very not someone that's going to force you into something. So essentially, do you want? I want. Okay, let's have fun. You don't want. No. Do you?

[Sergio]

It's fine.

[Jason]

Do you guys go out a lot in that time?

[Carl]

No, we don't really drink alcohol. We don't smoke.

[Sergio]

We don't, we don't do any of that. Even, Even when we were all single at the same time, you wouldn't catch us. You wouldn't see us going out. We spent 21 time out of the week, but we thought we focused the majority of our time traveling.

[Matt]

Yeah.

[Jason]

Even in Miami, you guys don't party. That's crazy. You're the opposite of me. Play that for Br.

[Sergio]

I don't know. It's just, I don't, for me personally, I'm like, I'm going to drink and then I'm going to feel like the next day. And like, you know, there's an extra day after that. And like, you know, we, we, we take pride in going to the gym and focusing on work and doing these all kind of things. So, like, if we miss a day, we feel even more shitty.

[Jason]

Yeah.

[Sergio]

Over the fact that we feel, like, guilty about it. Exactly. So it's not, it's not worried about. We all have goals. You know, we all want to retire. Our parents, we all, we all have different visions for our future. So going out is just going to hinder that process, in our opinion.

[Jason]

But don't you feel like this generation, nobody really wants to date anymore. Like, everyone Just wants to be. No one wants to be exclusive and fully committed to someone. They want to have their options open and text a bunch of people and hook up with thousand percent.

[Sergio]

For sure. I mean, why? Why? I mean, I'm not saying this. This is my opinion, but why would you, with all the options that are out there, and why settle for just one?

[Jason]

You tell me you. You're doing it.

[Sergio]

Well, because that, that's me. That's like within my character. I don't. I'm not a guy that, you know is gonna have multiple options, and I'm gonna pick out of the options. If I, If I like someone or I feel like there's something, I'm gonna focus on that one person and then. And then that's it. Right. But I feel like, you know, and now, like in this day and age, like dating apps and, you know, you have options. The, the, the. As soon as you get the ick or you've hooked up with someone, you could easily just go on to the next.

[Jason]

Yeah. You know, but why don't they want to even. I'm sure if they found someone. So. Okay, so what I'm hearing is you don't think that they found the right person, because if they did, they would have settled down. And that's why they're. People are choosing to not. Or they just think that there's more options and they want to have fun.

[Sergio]

Well, because, I mean, to be fair, with all due respect, guys usually just. They want to have sex.

[Jason]

They want to wake up.

[Sergio]

Right. So as soon as they get that, it's like they got it. So that's kind like the fun. The chase is kind of over, and they just know that they could open their app and then there's another one. There's a couple more in his area that he could start chatting up and potentially hook up again with no strings attached. Right. So I feel that it's. I think it's a give and take on both parts. I feel if girls would take a little bit more time and not hook up with a guy so easily, there would be like, like a, A across the board understanding that it's not as easy to just be hooking up with people.

[Jason]

Yeah. And you kind of mentioned this, but sex on the first date.

[Sergio]

Yeah.

[Jason]

No go. Because then you just don't classify her as like, you could date her.

[Carl]

Or for me, it doesn't. Like, if we ain't first date, doesn't mean that, like, you're not wifey material, because my sincere relationship was on the first date.

[Jason]

No way.

[Carl]

And we even started. That's just like, friends. Like, it was not that deep. And then we're like, we like each.

[Jason]

Other, so let's, you know, date interesting.

[Matt]

As long as it's done in the respectfully and, like, you guys like each other. I feel like it's. It's not that deep, you know, but.

[Jason]

I feel like men always need the chase. Like, they need the, like, work to get it, you know, or else they're kind of like, oh, great, got to have sex with you. Now I'm going to try for somebody else.

[Sergio]

Yeah, I think it depends who you're dealing with. Yeah, like, it depends what the vibes are. Like, the guy. Like, if I'm a girl and I'm on a date with a guy and he's an asshole and I'm. I'm just going to sleep with him because I want to keep him interested, and that's not the way to go, you know, I think, like, for. On both sides, I don't think guys should be just hooking up with as many girls as possible either, you know?

[Jason]

Yeah. Okay, fair. So how did you. Or how would you give advice for, like, people to meet guys then? Because everyone's asking, how do I meet people in the city? How do I, like, find a guy? What do I say? Do I go up to him? Like, what would you give advice for people that are actually looking for a relationship?

[Carl]

You mean overall? Just in Toronto. Because if I'm being honest, Toronto, crazy, crazy dating in Toronto, it's crazy. Like, hookup culture here is different.

[Jason]

But why do you think that is? Because it's a city. Because it was the same. I used to live in New York, so I just moved back to Toronto. But I think it was just as bad or worse in New York, probably because it was a bigger city. Do you think that it. Because it's a city. That's why it's so bad?

[Sergio]

Well, I think it's also, like, I mean, to be fair, Toronto is not that far. It's becoming like a New York City 2.0, you know, it's not. It's not like. I mean, there's a lot more people in New York, but, yeah, from our perspective, like, we've been to both, and to me, Toronto just seems like a.

[Jason]

Mini version of New York. Yeah.

[Sergio]

Yeah. On a smaller scale, but I think for, like, the general public population, I think people just need to, like, stick away from dating apps and, like, just meet people by doing things that you love, like what you're passionate about. Like, if you're in the gym, you'll find already somebody that has something in common with you by being at the gym, right? Whatever your interests are, pick up, I don't know, pottery, a cooking class, whatever it is, and you'll already be surrounded with people that are like minded already with hobbies. I think from there you could develop like a genuine connection rather than just mass sending the same cheesy pickup line template on Tinder.

[Jason]

I said this in one of my TikToks and some people agreed and some people didn't. So I want to hear your take on it. But I said, I know you guys don't borrow a lot, like go to the bars, but tell me if this makes sense. So you will never find your soulmate at the bar. Because guys, I'm 24, so I'm like similar age to you guys. Guys are going to the bar to hook up. That's what their goal is at the end of the night, right? But a girl would look for someone at a bar to, you know, find their personal or person or whatever that may be. So I say you can find a wife at the bar, but you can't find your husband. Do you agree with that or no? Are you like, I don't want a bar star?

[Matt]

Oh my God.

[Carl]

What'd you think?

[Sergio]

I don't think, I don't think you could find either or at the bar.

[Jason]

Why?

[Sergio]

I just feel like for the, the sole reason that you guys are meeting up at the bar is because you guys both went in there with a, a set like intention.

[Matt]

Probably, maybe not. Actually. You could go to the bar and just have a drink with your, with your boy.

[Sergio]

No, no, you can. But let's say for example, like, if I'm going to a bar, I'm not going there and like scanning the room with like, oh, I wonder who might be a potential wifey. I'm thinking like, you know, who could I potentially bring home, back home with me? You know what I mean? Only because the setting is a bar. Because it's like, it's like, it's like a common understanding that people are going out, have a good time, new people, drink and whatever. It's like, it's just like the setting in which I'm meeting someone is not on a basis where I'm thinking of, oh, I might find Mrs. Right. You know what I mean? Like if I go to a library or someone else or someone else, that's, you know, you know what I mean? That's not that setting. Like if I meet a girl at the library, there's a higher chance that I'm like, oh, you know, like, I met her at the library. She's kind of cool. We clicked and, you know, she's a book rat.

[Matt]

Agree.

[Carl]

But I think we can. We can all agree to one thing, though, is regardless of the setting, we're all gonna reset that setting. Outside of the club or outside the library? Outside of whatever. So if I meet you at the club and I have, like, a. An idea of, like, you or, like, if you're wife or not wifey, Whatever.

[Jason]

You're attracted to them.

[Carl]

Yeah, yeah, whatever. And then if I see you at the date, I will reset that thinking and let you, like, you know, get a chance to show me maybe your wifey material. Yeah, no, I'm not gonna judge you right away. Maybe at first I'm like. Like he mentioned, oh, I don't know if she's gonna be wifey because she's at the bar. But at the same time, if we go on a date and then I see that you're completely different from the setting that you gave at the bar.

[Jason]

Yeah.

[Carl]

Then, you know, maybe now your wifey material.

[Jason]

Yeah.

[Carl]

When we. I think we all do that.

[Sergio]

And did we meet each other, like, under the influence? Like, are you.

[Carl]

Yeah, exactly.

[Sergio]

Are you more dope? Are you more, like, talkable when you've Drink. When you've drank?

[Carl]

A little bit.

[Sergio]

Like, if, like, I much rather just be like, a. We meet on a. On a. In a different setting.

[Jason]

Yeah.

[Matt]

But then again, I feel like you can find love anywhere. You can find love in the bar.

[Sergio]

Yeah. So why are you single?

[Matt]

Thousand percent.

[Sergio]

It's super simple. There's an age gap. Right. I'm 28. And you're 26.

[Carl]

When. 27. Yeah.

[Sergio]

So we have those two. So he's where I was at when I didn't want to settle with anybody. I wanted to focus on my career, this, that, and a third. So that's where he's at.

[Jason]

So you don't want to be.

[Sergio]

Correct me if I'm wrong.

[Matt]

Yeah, yeah. Basically, I'm just really working on my stuff, and I feel like when I'm in a relationship, I really divide my focus and my girl and my work. And I don't want that right now. I just want to, you know, finish with my. My work and be successful. And then afterwards, I'll find a girl or a wife or anything like that, you know, except, like, I'm just distracted. I give a lot of energy to my girl whenever I have one.

[Jason]

So you think that it would, like, get in the way and, like, not allow you to try as hard and pursue.

[Matt]

Exactly. Yeah.

[Sergio]

Yeah.

[Jason]

Fair.

[Sergio]

Yeah.

[Jason]

So we kind of skipped you for your roster. So if you're single, how's that going?

[Matt]

I don't have a roster. Do I have a roster?

[Carl]

No, I don't.

[Jason]

No.

[Carl]

No.

[Jason]

So you just don't hook up with anyone? You're celibate?

[Matt]

Yeah.

[Carl]

Okay, okay, hear me out. So he's a flirt.

[Jason]

Okay, wait, so you said you can't flirt, but that was a joke. As in.

[Carl]

Yes.

[Matt]

No, it's not. They say I flirt, but I don't flirt. I'm just friends.

[Jason]

Explain it. I need friends now. Because now.

[Matt]

Okay, see, let's say we go outside a caca or whatever. I. Someone comes to talk to me.

[Carl]

Yeah.

[Matt]

And we're just talking. That's it. And then they think I'm flirting, but I'm just being me.

[Carl]

I'm not flirting right now. That's not how he's talking to the girl.

[Jason]

Okay.

[Carl]

I was talking to girls like this. Yeah.

[Matt]

Me or you? You. Oh, that's crazy. Oh, that's crazy. I don't lick my lips like that.

[Jason]

So I was gonna say that was a major lick. Lip. So if you were. If you're a big flirt. Let's just say it as it is. You're a big flirt.

[Matt]

Yeah.

[Jason]

And you're going to the bar and. What? Or not the bar. You're going to whatever with your boys. And you're around girls, too. And you have a girlfriend. Let's say you have one right now.

[Matt]

Yeah.

[Jason]

Would you still be acting like that?

[Matt]

No. No. My girlfriend would be the one with me, and I'll be. Would be. I'm like the type of guy that likes to. To flex my girl, you know? Yeah. Like, she's right. Me with me. And everyone knows that she's the one I'm dating, you know? And I feel like it's such a flex to have, like, us two looking good and everything.

[Jason]

It's just.

[Matt]

It's just better. My opinion.

[Sergio]

Yeah, absolutely.

[Matt]

Is like my little trophy.

[Jason]

Yeah. Yeah. I mean, that's whatever a girl wants, but that's rare nowadays.

[Sergio]

Yeah, definitely.

[Jason]

So what's kind of like the first thing that you notice in a girl?

[Carl]

Wait, do you have a roster? We're not gonna skip you. Also, what is this?

[Jason]

I. Listen.

[Carl]

Gotcha.

[Jason]

I've been single for, like, two years. I. I'm always talking to people. I entertain it. I don't want to date anyone right now because single, same as you and where you guys were. I think I just moved back to New York. I started a whole new career. Like, I'm changing everything. I really need to get intact. And I'm just trying to have fun right now. I don't want anyone kind of pulling me back, but if the right person were to come, then I'd be open to it. Talking about roster.

[Sergio]

Yes.

[Carl]

Trying to give the political right answer.

[Sergio]

You're allowed. Girls are allowed to have roster.

[Jason]

I'm talking to people. You're allowed. Yes.

[Sergio]

Yeah, that's fine. It's a misconception that girls are not allowed to have rosters.

[Jason]

No, I definitely have a roster, but.

[Sergio]

Oh, oh, here you go.

[Carl]

Definitely.

[Jason]

I feel like guys, everyone understands that you're probably talking to somebody all the time if you're single. Like, you're talking to different people.

[Sergio]

I'm gonna be honest. For, I think, like, for the majority of guys, they're not.

[Jason]

I think they probably are.

[Carl]

You think about us, because it's.

[Sergio]

I'm not. On the contrary.

[Carl]

No. But us, we don't do that.

[Sergio]

No. I'm saying that it's a lot more accessible for I. For us to be able to frequently talk to girls. Right.

[Jason]

Okay.

[Sergio]

There's. There, there, there's attention. We're obviously, we're good looking guys and there's a social media presence. So it's a lot more accessible, but for the average person.

[Carl]

Oh, and that way for the average.

[Sergio]

Guy who doesn't have.

[Matt]

Has one picture on Instagram.

[Sergio]

Yeah. It's a little bit more like I said it within us. They're not talking to girls like that. They're not. Like, the majority of guys are very, very lonely.

[Matt]

They go to bars.

[Sergio]

Because the thing, the thing too is.

[Jason]

Then they meet people at the bars and then they Snapchat five girls at the same time every day. Blah, blah.

[Sergio]

But, you know, like, I, I get that argument too, but the majority of guys are not at bars. Like, there's. There's a big cesspool of guy, I think people.

[Jason]

So then what do you do on the weekends if you don't go to the bars?

[Sergio]

Us, I'm gonna be honest. We're working.

[Carl]

Yeah.

[Jason]

Yeah.

[Sergio]

Like, we're not gonna be. Like, we're going out tonight to catch up with, like, friends when we're at. Whenever we're in town, but back home, like, we're not. We're hanging out with each other. If anything, like, we'll go to the gym arcades. Gym arcades. Like, we'll be hanging out together. We'll be just, you know, shooting.

[Carl]

The last Saturday, we did a boys night. And you think that it's at the club?

[Jason]

Yeah.

[Carl]

Six grown ass boy at the arcades?

[Sergio]

Yeah.

[Jason]

No way. That's so funny.

[Sergio]

We had dinner, we went to the arcades, and that was it.

[Carl]

Yeah. Yeah.

[Jason]

Sober. So I go out like Thursday, Friday, Saturday, every single weekend.

[Sergio]

That was the thing. Like, we would go out, like, we would reserve our one night out of the week to go to this place in our city that we go out every Thursday, but that would be pretty much it. And it closed at 10. Yeah. So what?

[Jason]

That's crazy.

[Carl]

It's a good spot, though.

[Jason]

So you did used to go out a bit, though.

[Sergio]

Yeah, once a week. That was. That was like our, like, our treat, you know, we would. We would work and we kind of. We had like a little bit of a routine, and I think we. We've melted enough that we're like, okay, you know what? We see the same faces now all the time.

[Jason]

Yeah.

[Sergio]

Now it's getting cold. So, like, can we, you know, start having a better time, like, outside the country?

[Carl]

Honestly, last time we went to the club to like, like, have fun was Barcelona.

[Sergio]

No, actually was here, but. And again, it was.

[Carl]

It was for work.

[Sergio]

It was for. We did it for a vlog.

[Carl]

Oh, really? Oh, that's true.

[Jason]

Where? Where in silent H. Silent H. Yeah, I know, Silent age.

[Sergio]

And that was a great time. But like, like once, like, when we did that, that's when we reminded ourselves. Like, the last time we drank was in Barcelona. So we had a good time, mind you, and, like, we didn't get, like, completely destroyed, so we weren't hungover the next day. We drove back home that same morning.

[Jason]

Wow. Yeah, I didn't expect that. Like, I thought that you guys were gonna be like, I didn't think you're pieces of. I didn't think you're pieces of. I just thought you were partiers every weekend because, like, you can take content through that too.

[Sergio]

Yeah. But I don't think. I don't think it's the kind of lifestyle that we want to showcase.

[Jason]

No, yeah, I am. I showcase it. Oh, it's fine.

[Sergio]

I mean, to each your own. Like, I mean, like I said, like, really, like, the funny thing about us, like, if one person decides not to drink, it kind of sets the tone of, like, fine, I don't want to drink either. So that's why I'm saying, like, the fact that we're all together, like, whenever. It's very contagious. Especially, like, if we see like one or two guys going to the gym. Like the third person is going to want to naturally tag along. Right. So we're kind of like in that healthy like lifestyle for drinking is really like that.

[Carl]

You drink? No. You drink? No. Okay. Yeah. I'm not drinking.

[Matt]

Yeah.

[Jason]

Okay. Yeah, yeah. Fair.

[Sergio]

Yeah.

[Jason]

And that's one of my icks when guys don't go to the gym.

[Sergio]

Yeah.

[Jason]

So I'm glad that you all.

[Sergio]

Okay, but hold on. Do you need them to be like jacked or you just need them to be doing like.

[Jason]

I just want them to be doing physical activity. Like abs are great. Love abs. But it's not like the. I would not date you if you don't have abs.

[Sergio]

Wait, abs or dad bods?

[Jason]

Abs.

[Sergio]

Okay.

[Carl]

Okay. What's your favorite muscle? Like back? Shoulders. Biceps? Back.

[Sergio]

Back. You got a nice back, Carl.

[Matt]

I mean in the background.

[Jason]

What's your favorite feature on a girl? I won't ask her.

[Matt]

Smile.

[Carl]

Why you say that?

[Jason]

Really though?

[Matt]

Yeah, yeah, yeah.

[Carl]

Why you say it like that? Because you.

[Matt]

Cuz any of you guys are going to react like that.

[Sergio]

No, no. Yours.

[Carl]

I don't know if I'm supposed to.

[Sergio]

Say like a non sexual turn on.

[Carl]

Yeah, like, like obviously ass but I'm not going to say that.

[Jason]

Are you ass or tits guys?

[Matt]

Proceed to say it.

[Jason]

I'll ask. Of course that sucks. I have no ass.

[Carl]

No, but wait, like.

[Sergio]

It'S, it's, it's a preference. But if you have enough to be able to work with and that's. And that's fine.

[Jason]

Okay.

[Sergio]

But also I mean we're just putting all the tea out there.

[Jason]

Do you think majority of men are ass guys? Cuz I feel like yeah, I think so.

[Sergio]

Yeah. But you see this, this is what's conflicting. I'm an ass guy, but I'm. I'm a huge missionary guy.

[Carl]

Yes.

[Sergio]

I, I don't get why it's like I like for you to have it so I can like see you like walk around the house or like whenever you're out. But like missionary for sure is like what we're doing.

[Jason]

Does it have to be like massive or is it just like a fit but.

[Sergio]

No, a fit but okay. It just has to be there.

[Jason]

Okay.

[Sergio]

It can't not be.

[Jason]

Introverted.

[Sergio]

Flat like a table. Yeah.

[Carl]

I mean for me, for me if you like check my exes, they all have different bodies so I can't like. I like to say ass but I'm and everything.

[Jason]

So you don't really have a type?

[Carl]

No, my, my first was black, second was white. Third one was light skin and fourth one was Greek.

[Jason]

What's the commonality in all them?

[Carl]

No, nothing, actually, nothing. First one was really, really like thick on the thick side.

[Jason]

Okay.

[Carl]

Second one was muscular, like soccer player, everything. Third one was not like no crazy anything, like little tits, little ass, nothing too crazy. And fourth one was like model vibe and very big hips and that's pretty much it. No tits.

[Jason]

So all very different.

[Carl]

All very different. But I actually don't, I actually don't care if I'm being honest. Like it's your vibe, the vibe that comes with your body. And I like pretty faces. If you really have a pretty face and your vibe, like you're very confident somehow you're like 10 times sexier than any of those girls that have like skinny or whatever it is. Pretty face, nice vibe. 10 out of 10. I like it.

[Jason]

So everyone says pretty face now. Like it's the pretty face that gets them. Is that the first thing you realize or notice? Like her face?

[Sergio]

Yeah.

[Matt]

Cuz you talk to the girl after.

[Carl]

You know, what's that?

[Matt]

Cuz you talk to the girl after and you're, you're watching her, you know, you know, you're not. I'm not talking to her ass, you know.

[Jason]

Yeah.

[Matt]

That's why pretty face is like a muscle. Yeah.

[Jason]

Not fair. Mine would probably be no face. But I'm a vibe girl too. Like I need to be able to laugh with you, get along with you and like the body is a plus.

[Sergio]

Yeah.

[Carl]

What's your physical type? Like skin color? Tall, muscular, whatever.

[Sergio]

Beard or no beard.

[Jason]

I like a manly man. Like I want them to be taller than me. I'm five nine. So my first ex was six seven. My second was like six two. My third was like around there. So I like tall. Ideally it would be like a 6 6, light skin and scruff.

[Sergio]

What about a 5, 10 light skin?

[Jason]

He got someone for me. Do we add them to the roster? No, I think no, that's, that's. And like abs. Maybe an athlete, but I'm, I'm not doing that anymore.

[Carl]

Oh, I need more.

[Sergio]

Wait. Yeah. Can we ask, what is it with girls and athletes?

[Jason]

Yeah, it's just so attractive to watch a guy play a sport.

[Sergio]

But is it, but is it like, like does it have to be somebody that made it? Or can it just be like anybody who's playing a sport, like for fun, obviously. I mean like semi competitive, like locally here in Toronto.

[Jason]

So anything is attractive like playing a sport. But it gives a bon if you're really good at it, right?

[Matt]

Fair enough.

[Jason]

Yeah. Like, I like basketball, hockey.

[Carl]

No disrespect. Well, hockey are small guys.

[Matt]

They're shorter.

[Jason]

No, My first ex played hockey and he was six, seven.

[Matt]

With his skates.

[Jason]

Nope.

[Carl]

Light skin. White.

[Jason]

White. Hopefully that didn't give away too much. I'm like, oh, God, no. Yeah.

[Carl]

So, okay, so why are you not doing athletes anymore?

[Jason]

Because I've been fucked over by too many athletes.

[Sergio]

Fair enough.

[Jason]

And they never. They always have more girls. Like, there's never just one to be. You're never the only one.

[Sergio]

That's. I get that. Because even, like, in the other girls that we've dated, we've seen athletes in their DMs.

[Jason]

Oh, my.

[Carl]

Dude.

[Sergio]

And we've like. And some of them being in relationships, which is crazy.

[Jason]

I have some of my DMs that are married with children.

[Sergio]

That's crazy.

[Jason]

I'm like, what?

[Carl]

Yeah, yeah, no, that's crazy.

[Jason]

I'm like, if only she knew. Do you guys have. Get a lot of, like, people in your DMs, like famous people?

[Carl]

And I thought. I thought she was gonna say in a relationship. I thought she was in a relationship.

[Sergio]

Well, for me, personally, I don't know. For you guys, it's like we're in, like, this weird. In this. In this weird place. What are you gonna say? Good. I'm not gonna say anything crazy. Like, we don't have, like, the craziest of cloud, but for the cloud that we do have, like, it's. There's. There's There's a lot.

[Jason]

Really?

[Sergio]

Yeah.

[Matt]

80% girl, like we said.

[Carl]

Yeah.

[Sergio]

You know, so that's what I'm saying.

[Jason]

Like, yeah, yeah.

[Sergio]

It's not like we don't have, like, the craze of the following, but for the following that we have in that cesspool, like, there's a lot of people sending DMs.

[Jason]

Who's, like, the most famous person that showed up in your DMs? Can you say, you know, you just don't know if you actually don't know.

[Matt]

I'm thinking.

[Carl]

I'm thinking.

[Jason]

Or just tell me if it was like a singer, an actor, or what they did.

[Matt]

TV personality, TV only fans.

[Carl]

For me, mine's tv.

[Matt]

Mine's only fans.

[Sergio]

Yeah.

[Carl]

Only. Only had, like, a girl. Like an Instagram.

[Sergio]

No. YouTube was TV. Oh, yeah.

[Matt]

True. Yeah. TV. Yeah.

[Sergio]

The opposite. Opposite gender.

[Matt]

Yeah.

[Sergio]

Yeah.

[Carl]

Oh, oh, yeah. Miami.

[Sergio]

Yeah.

[Carl]

Oh, yeah. Yeah.

[Jason]

And is it on?

[Carl]

Oh, yeah.

[Jason]

Instagram or Tick Tock? Instagram.

[Sergio]

Instagram.

[Matt]

Instagram.

[Carl]

Yeah, yeah, mine was a guy.

[Jason]

Oh, yours was a guy?

[Carl]

Yeah, yeah, gay guy, but very, very. You know him for sure? Everyone knows him.

[Jason]

I can't think.

[Carl]

You'll. You'll know after this.

[Jason]

Okay, Please tell me after this. Okay. I wrote down some of the questions that people asked too. So let's see what else I got here. I was gonna ask because I'm curious. Would you date me? Why or why not? After everything that you've heard? I party, I go out, I take content of dating and things and be honest, even if it's a why not? You can grow me.

[Sergio]

I'd say physically, yes, but life lifestyle wise, no, only because I dated somebody with a similar lifestyle.

[Jason]

Okay.

[Sergio]

And that just wasn't for me.

[Jason]

Lifestyle is in like, because I go out on the weekends.

[Sergio]

The traveling, the going out on the weekends.

[Jason]

Who said I traveled?

[Sergio]

Well, I'm just putting like all like all in it together.

[Jason]

Okay.

[Sergio]

I'm just, I'm just putting everything.

[Matt]

I don't travel like that.

[Sergio]

I'm just putting it all in the same boy. It's just, it's just not for me. Like, I don't know, it's just. It's not my vibe. It's not something that I typically would do. And like, if you want me to be coming out with you, I hope it's. It's just not for me. I much rather be doing something else. Not necessarily staying home, but like, I'd much rather like go on a date or like, you know, if all the guys also in a relationships, we all go do something together, we do like a family dinner.

[Jason]

You just couldn't keep up with the lifestyle.

[Sergio]

I wouldn't want to, like, I wouldn't want to go drink necessarily. You know, I'm not.

[Jason]

Right.

[Sergio]

It's just. It's just not for me.

[Jason]

Fair.

[Sergio]

Yeah. That's the only reason why.

[Jason]

That's nice. I thought you were going to give me something rude.

[Sergio]

No.

[Jason]

Even you would date me even though I didn't have a butt. Yeah, okay. Fair.

[Carl]

Physically, yeah. And I'm not gonna say no. I would just because I understand what he means by lifestyle. So it'd be pretty much the same thing. But I, I would want to see you in that lifestyle. If you act right in your own lifestyle, then it's fine. But if I see some red flags, then this is when I'm out. You know what I mean? So I wouldn't judge you at first. Like, you can tell me.

[Jason]

Give me a chance.

[Carl]

Yeah, yeah. Like. Like with all the things that you Said, like, I'm not gonna have, like, a prejudgment, whatever. It's just like, okay, you said that. It's fine. I get it. I have a pass. You have a pass. You do your own thing when you're single. And then if I get in your life and I mentioned, listen, those things are my boundaries. If you're like, okay, that's fine. But if you go over those boundaries, then this is where we have an issue, you know?

[Jason]

Yeah.

[Carl]

So, like, I'll give an example. Like, we get in a relationship, you get to live your life, your lifestyle. But if at some point you're like, I'm gonna go shake my ass on a yacht in Miami, I'm like, you know, maybe that's not working, but I'm at the same time, I'm not the type of guy that's going to tell you you can't go out. If you like to go out, fine. But if you go out four times a week while I'm at home and I know I'm not going out, I'll be like, you know, once in a while, you're like, hey, listen, I want to go spend time with my girls. I'm like, okay, no worries. But if you're like, all the time out. I've been in a relationship like that, and we broke up exactly for that reason. Because it was like, listen, I'm at home. I'm not going out. You're going out all the time.

[Jason]

But you gave her a chance.

[Carl]

Yeah, yeah, yeah. Big time. Big time. We dated, we did it. And that's something I'm like.

[Sergio]

And also, just to add before he says his answer, I think we're all the same. Also, that when you're out, like, we want you to have fun, even, like, if we're not there.

[Jason]

So you're not the person that's like, don't go. You can't go out if I'm not there.

[Sergio]

No, I'm like, go out. Like, you know, take. Take advantage of men. Get free drinks.

[Jason]

Do you care if, like, your girlfriend went out and it was, like, just a girl's night? Like, they don't go out all the time, but they're wearing, like, something really risque.

[Sergio]

She wouldn't be my girl, respectfully.

[Jason]

Really?

[Sergio]

Yeah. If. If she herself is somebody who goes out and when she goes out, she's revealing and dresses up risque. That's not. That's not. That's not for me.

[Jason]

And what did you picture when I said that? Like, was it really?

[Sergio]

I'm Thinking like the extreme.

[Jason]

Okay. Let's say it was like a little black dress but like very low and very short.

[Carl]

Am I there or I'm not there?

[Jason]

What is. Why are you shaking your head?

[Matt]

Me? Yeah, I'm super open minded.

[Carl]

Wait, like are you there or you're not there?

[Jason]

Are you there? No, I'm going with the girls.

[Carl]

You're just with the girls? Yeah.

[Sergio]

I can't do that.

[Carl]

I don't know man.

[Jason]

Really? If I'm there, what if I'm not even trying to impress anyone. I'm just. I think I look hot as.

[Matt]

It's fine.

[Carl]

Listen, I'm 50. 50. Listen, it's like, you know, like I'm not there. If I'm there, dress how you want.

[Jason]

Okay.

[Carl]

If I'm not there and I see your purposely. Okay. This is how I think. Okay.

[Jason]

Yeah, yeah, explain.

[Carl]

If you go out, let's say four times those four times you just very normally when you're with me and then at what time that you go out with your girls, you're ten times more sluttier. Yeah. Revealing. Sorry, my fault. Just revealing. I'll be like, like kind of weird.

[Jason]

Are you looking for the attention?

[Carl]

Yeah. You know, if it's specific. But if I see that you always dress the same that I'm there, I'm not there. That's the different subject. You get what I mean? Yeah, I always function in that way. If like you're doing a certain behavior when I'm there but then doing something different when I'm not there. This is where I'm gonna ask question, you know, fair.

[Matt]

Yeah, he's like no, he's like 50. 50. I'm like yes.

[Jason]

Th percent you can wear whatever you want.

[Matt]

Yeah. Cuz like I'm big on trust. So basically whenever I'm dating you, it's like you could do whatever you want. I trust you. You trust me. Because I'm super active on social media as well. Like I post myself almost like anyways I push myself a lot. Shut the up and see. I feel like it's it be hypocrite from my part if I don't let my girl dress like she wants as well, you know. So I say you dress like you want. Just let me know what you're doing with who you're going out for safety purposes. But if anything else is just like do your thing, you know.

[Sergio]

Hold on. I agree. But I also disagree at the same time. Only I agree only because in your circumstance you're posting it online.

[Matt]

Yeah.

[Sergio]

And then, and then that's it. She's going out, she's going to be in a setting all night with people that have much more access to her than you.

[Jason]

Okay, but more people are going to see it when you post it online.

[Sergio]

Yeah, but if he, but if he, he's the one who gets to determine after that who he entertains based off.

[Jason]

She gets to determine who she's entertaining.

[Sergio]

Yes, but it's a lot more accessible. Him. It's a dm. There's no like there's like her like the guy is like this close if he wants to be.

[Jason]

But she could be like get the off me.

[Sergio]

She could. But if you're dressed in that particular way, you're obviously be drawing more of the attention that you don't want. So it's like why dress that way to begin with if you're going to be pushing guys away?

[Jason]

But I think it's a double standard. If you can post revealing things online. Like that's, that's you dressing that and seeking that attention online. Whereas if she doesn't, that's just her doing it in a different way.

[Matt]

If anything is sneakier online as well.

[Jason]

Yeah, me too. Because then you could like if they DM you to a picture and they're like you're so hot and you're like okay, come over, you know, like you could easily act on it.

[Sergio]

Yeah, I think it's just, I think it's just like what happens after the initial situation. Yeah, after the initial. If he posts, if he any entertains, it's fucked up. If she goes out and she entertains, it's fucked up. I'm just saying like the direct accessibility is a lot more different. Like we're talking about like a dm. Even if you were to respond to that dm, not as direct as her being approached and having like an in life, in real life situation happening and she has to handle that.

[Jason]

We'll agree to disagree.

[Sergio]

That's fair.

[Matt]

Yeah.

[Sergio]

The two people who are not single are agreeing with you.

[Matt]

Open minded.

[Jason]

Yeah. Okay. Would you?

[Matt]

Yeah, yeah. For both mentally. Me mentally and physically. But it just depends on a date because I'm big on connection and if I don't feel no connection.

[Jason]

You don't feel the connection.

[Matt]

I feel it.

[Jason]

You're not feeling it.

[Matt]

Like I'm just saying that because also my dates are like super long. Like my dates are like eight hours or something like that. Yeah.

[Jason]

Your dates are like eight hours? Yeah.

[Sergio]

Yeah.

[Jason]

What do you mean?

[Sergio]

What do you do?

[Matt]

It's like everything. Like we go eat and Then we do an occasion because you want to.

[Jason]

See, like, them in every aspect.

[Sergio]

Yeah.

[Matt]

So I get to know the person, really. And it gets like, at the end of the day, just like, okay, we know if we're compatible or not, you.

[Jason]

Know, so take me through the date. Give me the rundown.

[Matt]

The perfect date.

[Jason]

Yeah.

[Matt]

So I'll probably text you and be like, get ready for seven.

[Jason]

Okay.

[Matt]

With the outfit. Just this. And I'll pick you up. And then we'll go with the outfit. Yeah, I'll let you know, you know, what to wear. You know, then we'll go eat. And then actually we're gonna go to an activity, like, not bowling because it's kind of boring. Just like arcades or anything, like fun, you know, where you can move a lot. And then after that.

[Jason]

Do you think that's more for you or for.

[Matt]

No, it's actually for. Actually, you know what? For both. Me as fuck. Because I'm competitive as hell, you know, so this. And then we go eat, because you're probably going to be hungry. And then after we work up an appetite. Exactly. Yeah, we're gonna eat. And then after it's dessert. After dessert. Well, we are just gonna, you know, chat for a bit and see what's.

[Jason]

Up for eight hours, I guess that's like. But that's like.

[Matt]

Okay, let's say about four. Four or five hours around.

[Carl]

So.

[Matt]

Yeah.

[Jason]

Okay. Thought about date.

[Matt]

I'm.

[Jason]

But I feel like guys do like, mini putting or activities because it's more fun for them.

[Matt]

Yeah. But also because. Yeah, I agree. But also because I like to date someone that's also really competitive because I'm super sarcastic. Like, I'll literally roast you. Like, you're going to be, like, super sarcastic to each other. And it's like, oh, you said, like, I'm just going to play around with you, like, fucking up or me fucking up. It's just funny, you know, it makes everything funny because I'm really like the goofy guy and I like to make whoever I'm with laugh. I'm big on quality time. So, like, it's. That's. That's important for me, you know?

[Sergio]

But I heard that the other day that, like, guys think that, like, going mini putting is a great dating idea, but girls, they hate it.

[Matt]

Yeah.

[Jason]

Yeah. I don't like it.

[Matt]

I can see it.

[Carl]

Yeah.

[Jason]

Actually, if it's like the. If it's like the. There's other things to do other than just like, you're going to like. It's not a palisade. Or something like that, you know, Palestine. Do you guys have a palisade? What's like an equivalent? It's not an arcade, but it's like a game center thing.

[Sergio]

Yeah, yeah, yeah.

[Jason]

Like you could go there and then pick what you're doing. But I don't. Mini putt is not like you're. You hit it and then, you know, uno, reverse.

[Sergio]

What's your ideal date?

[Jason]

My ideal date would be someone texting me that you did it right for the time and to what to wear and then have a car pick me up and then go out for like a nice romantic dinner also.

[Sergio]

So then follow up question just cause you mentioned it. Do girls prefer to be picked up by their date or be sent to car?

[Jason]

Send a car.

[Sergio]

Send a car.

[Jason]

Uh huh.

[Matt]

Oh.

[Jason]

So that we can. Well, I'm thinking of dinner. Like I'm thinking of it in my head. But if we're going to like mini putting or something or bowling or whatever. No, pick me up in your car. But if I want to see what you drive.

[Carl]

Really, you know, what about expensive dinner or not?

[Jason]

Yeah. Treat me.

[Carl]

Okay. Expensive car or not.

[Jason]

Yeah, I hope so. I hope you're doing well for yourself.

[Sergio]

Yeah, I'm curious. Yeah, I'm curious. Yeah. What does a car like determine for the guy?

[Jason]

I just think it's like what, What's a car?

[Carl]

That one's gonna come. Like you're gonna.

[Jason]

I like a truck. I like a big truck.

[Carl]

Like a. They buy a cut.

[Matt]

Like a pickup.

[Jason]

Like a pickup truck.

[Sergio]

Okay, that's. But that's a nice car.

[Jason]

Like a big jeep truck.

[Sergio]

Yeah, a Jeep.

[Jason]

Yeah.

[Sergio]

Okay, so that's not crazy. You made it seem like it has to be like a, like a Rolls Royce Cullen and.

[Jason]

Yeah, well it can be a nice truck.

[Sergio]

I mean the nicest jeep you can.

[Jason]

Get is still a Jeep.

[Sergio]

I don't.

[Jason]

I'm thinking of like a really. I'm. Okay, I'm not a car girl, but I'm thinking of like a really nice truck.

[Sergio]

Okay.

[Jason]

I just think like it's masculine, it's big, it's like.

[Sergio]

Okay, you see, I think this is what the issue is. I think the reason why girls get hate online is because they'll refer to something like, yeah, he needs to have a nice car.

[Jason]

But they don't. They can't explain themselves.

[Sergio]

You're talking about a Jeep, which is.

[Matt]

Totally like, that's fine, it's great.

[Sergio]

It's like for a lot of people that's, that's super doable.

[Carl]

But if it's not a truck. It's like a Porsche 911.

[Jason]

I don't know. These. I don't know.

[Sergio]

Okay, but for you, the nicer the better. But the Jeep is like the. The bare minimum.

[Jason]

A really nice Jeep, though.

[Sergio]

Yeah, but it's. It's a Jeep at the end of the day.

[Jason]

20, 24.

[Sergio]

That's fine. Okay, you get the 24. 24.

[Carl]

Imagine you come on a porch, 911 inch. Like a.

[Sergio]

What the. Is this not a Jeep?

[Jason]

No, but, like, I can appreciate a nice car, too.

[Sergio]

No, for sure. You just won't. You just won't know what it is.

[Jason]

But I like, I like. Yeah, I just don't know what it is.

[Carl]

I rather have the Jeep. What is that?

[Jason]

But then I'd look it up after.

[Sergio]

Yeah.

[Carl]

Yeah.

[Jason]

You know what I mean? Like, I do my due diligence.

[Sergio]

Okay, but so how do girls filter out the. Like, the douchebags who flaunt the money and this, that, and a third versus a guy that has a nice car but is a little bit more like, you know, down easily?

[Jason]

They just. If you talk about your money too much, it's honestly a nick. And if. Even if you're the richest guy in the world, like, I dated someone who was very well off, and he wouldn't stop talking about it. It was like a flex of his. And I'm like, now I'm not even attracted to you. Like, it was cool when I knew you were, you know, what you had. That's fine. But just stop talking about it. Be who you are. You aren't the money. Like, you don't wear the money on it. You know what I mean? So if they talk about it too much or even, like, at all.

[Sergio]

Yeah.

[Jason]

Like, one guy showed me his, like, bank account, like, literally just pulled it up and just, like, showed me. And I was like, I don't care.

[Matt]

What are you saying?

[Jason]

I don't need to see.

[Sergio]

Yeah. It's like, oh, nice.

[Jason]

Literally, I was like, oh, okay, cool. But that's when it's like, okay, I know that you're a douchebag.

[Carl]

Yeah.

[Jason]

And you only care about this. And you're flexing it to every single girl that you're talking to.

[Sergio]

I feel like it's a double standard too, though. I feel like guys feel the need to have to show that.

[Jason]

Really? Why?

[Matt]

To up their value or something like that.

[Sergio]

Yeah. For their validation. Right. They want to show you how much money they have so you could be like, oh, wow, such a good boy, you know? Such a good boy. Yeah, well, it almost feels like that's how they want to be told that. They're like, yeah, like, you did good. You have money. Congrats.

[Jason]

Okay, so we, we care. Obviously. We want you to be doing well. We want you to be able to support, like, let's say that you're, you're future and you're, you're trying to see the future with them. So if you can't even have a nice car and have these things, how are you going to support a child? If I, you know, need to take time off of work, how much money.

[Carl]

I'm supposed to make a year for me to be able to date you, and you're like, yeah, that's fine for me.

[Jason]

I want you to make enough money so that.

[Carl]

What's enough? I want the number.

[Sergio]

Yeah. This is our podcast.

[Jason]

Oh, God.

[Sergio]

It doesn't have to be like an.

[Jason]

Exact number, but it has to be like, what's the average? Like 65 is what, minimum wage?

[Carl]

Yeah. Well, not minimum wage, but it's average.

[Jason]

Okay, so I'd say over a hundred.

[Carl]

Okay.

[Sergio]

Over 100k.

[Matt]

Fair enough.

[Carl]

Fair.

[Jason]

500 would be great.

[Carl]

Yeah.

[Matt]

Yeah, obviously it's over 100.

[Jason]

Yeah, but over 100.

[Carl]

Okay, that's fair.

[Jason]

So that you can support us and having a, like, if I had a kid right now, we could be able to, you know, put it in school and do everything.

[Sergio]

Yeah.

[Jason]

Safety net. Like a girl wants to feel safe in a relationship and money is just another safety.

[Carl]

It should be. Would you, would you get married? Do you want to get married?

[Jason]

Absolutely. I love, love.

[Carl]

Would you be a stay at home wife?

[Jason]

It would be hard for me because I'm so, like, I moved to New York just to do a master's so that I could live there and work there. Like, I just get up and go and do things. So it would be really hard for me to. But then again, I could be if I had to, like, if my husband was like, I really want to start this. You have to stay home with the kids like while I'm doing whatever adventure thing. And then I'd be like, okay, I guess we're doing it. And I'd sacrifice, but I would want to do something on the side. And because I do content, I think I could be a stay at home mom while I'm doing content. Would just implement my life.

[Carl]

Fair enough.

[Sergio]

What's your, what's your, what's your background, like, ethnicity wise?

[Jason]

I am Ukrainian and Scandinavian and Irish. Are you. What is Irish? Okay. Irish is good. We're funny.

[Sergio]

You guys are short tempered.

[Jason]

I don't.

[Sergio]

Hey, Short tempered. It's like a miniature Conor McGregor.

[Carl]

Why'd you say that? Now he's become. No, you're not funny.

[Jason]

No, I'm trying to, but. No, we are funny.

[Sergio]

Yeah, yeah, sure.

[Jason]

I think it's like a known fact that Irish people are like, maybe you guys are defective.

[Sergio]

I don't know.

[Carl]

My dad's Irish.

[Jason]

I don't know if that's it.

[Carl]

He's really not funny. Straightforward.

[Jason]

Do you guys have any other questions for me?

[Matt]

How many kids do you want?

[Jason]

How many kids do I want?

[Matt]

Yeah.

[Jason]

Three.

[Matt]

Gotcha.

[Carl]

What is your worst date?

[Sergio]

Huh?

[Jason]

One time a guy wouldn't let me leave the date.

[Matt]

She wouldn't. He wouldn't. I mean, he.

[Jason]

He wouldn't let me leave the date. No, Like, I was at the date and he was like, I was. I barely touched the food because it was just a weird conversation. He was giving me really weird vibes. His cousin is someone that's, like, really famous, so he wouldn't stop talking about them. And I was just, like, uncomfortable because it was. We weren't even getting to know each other. It was just story times of his cousin. And then I didn't finish my food, but I ate it. Like, I ate some of it. And then he's like, finish your food. And I was like, jesus, okay. And then made me finish my drink, made me finish my food. And then I'm like, okay. Like, I have an early morning. Obviously made up an excuse or something. We went to get another drink because he was like, no, we have to go get one more drink. And I was like, I'm really tired, like, exhausted. Went for another drink. Then I called an Uber. And I was like, okay. Like, thank you so much. He was like, no, I'll call you an Uber. And in reality, I probably should have been like, no, I have my own Uber. But I was like, okay, like, whatever. And he gets in the Uber. He said, there's two stops. And then I hear. And I. Or I looked at it and he was like, it only said one stop. And it was to his house. And I was like, I am not coming home with you. So I took his phone and put my address in first. And then he. All I hear is when we're in the Uber, change or like the do, do, do or something in the phone that I knew it was changed. And then I was like, no, like, to the Uber driver, take me to blah, blah, my address. And he was weird. Like, he was like, drunk and, like, trying to grab me. It was like, a very uncomfortable situation. So not like an awkward, like a scary.

[Sergio]

Yeah.

[Jason]

That's why you always share your location with your friends.

[Carl]

Yes.

[Sergio]

I can only imagine how scary it is for a girl to be. Go on a date. I'm saying, in my opinion, the guys are most likely to be the. The. The creep.

[Carl]

Guys are weird.

[Jason]

Yeah, guys are weird.

[Carl]

Yeah.

[Sergio]

I mean. I mean, not all of them, but. Yeah.

[Jason]

Some are good weird, but some are bad.

[Sergio]

Some, like, funny weird.

[Jason]

Yeah.

[Matt]

Okay.

[Jason]

All right. Well, thank you guys for coming on the podcast.

[Sergio]

No problem.

[Jason]

Thank you all for watching. I will see you next Thursday on Top Blonde.

[Matt]

Good.