The TRUTH About Being On A Reality Show | Corey Niles

Summary

Podcast Summary: "The TRUTH About Being On A Reality Show | Corey Niles"

Overview In this engaging episode of Tall Blonde, hosted by Sarah Lauren, listeners delve into the unfiltered realities of being a reality TV star with special guest Corey Niles. The conversation navigates through the challenges of modern dating, the decline of traditional chivalry, the influence of social media on men's behavior, and Corey’s personal journey in the entertainment industry. Presented by MBHTV and released on February 28, 2025, this episode offers candid insights and relatable anecdotes aimed at helping listeners navigate their own paths without the pitfalls Corey has experienced.

Corey Niles’ Background Corey Niles opens up about his roots and professional life, providing listeners with a comprehensive background. Hailing from Toronto, Corey is the eldest of four siblings and an entrepreneur who founded Rustic Edge Homes, a company specializing in construction and renovations.

[02:03] Corey: “Oldest of four. So I got to do things as right as I can.”

At 38 years old, Corey emphasizes his leadership qualities and his dedication to maintaining a "manly" persona in a society he feels is shifting away from traditional male roles.

[02:25] Corey: “I'm a manly man. I try to be. It’s a dying breed.”

Entering Reality Television The discussion transitions to Corey’s unexpected entry into reality TV. Unlike many who apply for such opportunities, Corey was discovered through his TikTok presence, highlighting the power of social media in modern fame.

[04:37] Corey: “They actually found me on TikTok.”

Corey recounts the nerve-wracking experience of being cast on Netflix’s Million Dollar Secret, expressing his initial hesitation and the emotional turmoil he faced.

[07:02] Corey: “You gotta come home. And fellas, it's time to go home. Enough of the bullshit.”

He reflects on the unsuitability of reality TV for those not prepared for the intense public scrutiny and the lasting impact it can have on personal life.

Chivalry and Modern Dating A significant portion of the episode centers around the erosion of traditional chivalry and its effects on modern dating dynamics. Corey passionately argues that many men today are "broken" due to societal changes exacerbated by social media and dating platforms.

[19:16] Corey: “A lot of men are boys these days. A lot of men just want to do… have sex and what?”

Sarah Lauren echoes Corey’s sentiments, agreeing that chivalry is dead and discussing how honesty and confidence are crucial yet often lacking in both men and women.

[23:08] Corey: “I don't have the answer, but I think it's time, ladies, you gotta come home. You gotta come home. And fellas, it's time to go home.”

They delve into the complexities of dating in a hyper-connected world where superficial interactions often replace meaningful connections.

Body Count and Relationship Dynamics The conversation shifts to the sensitive topic of "body count," with both hosts sharing their perspectives and personal experiences. Corey humorously navigates the discussion, critiquing the societal obsession with quantifying sexual experiences.

[50:06] Corey: “Most men don't know how many women they've been with.”

Sarah shares her stance on preferring emotional security and mutual support over mere physical attraction, highlighting the importance of finding a partner who values and encourages personal growth.

[29:51] Sarah: “I want a secure man that makes me feel safe, both emotionally, mentally, physically, and, like, obviously that goes for finances.”

Rapid Fire: Dating Preferences and Breakups In a lively rapid-fire segment, Sarah and Corey answer questions about their dating preferences, fashion choices, and handling breakups. This segment showcases their chemistry and provides humorous yet insightful takes on common dating scenarios.

[65:05] Corey: “I would go Mr. Burberry. Which they don't make anymore. Or Givenchy.”

[66:36] Sarah: “If you hook up with the same person, it's not an added number to your list.”

They discuss the importance of authenticity and vulnerability in relationships, emphasizing that true connections go beyond surface-level interactions.

Corey’s Emotional Journey on Reality TV Corey opens up about the emotional challenges he faced while on reality TV, including the pressure to stay authentic and the fear of judgment from the public. He advises potential reality TV participants to thoroughly understand their motivations before embarking on such a path.

[35:05] Corey: “Yeah, I would recommend you not to do it.”

He underscores the significance of self-awareness and the need to prioritize personal well-being over fleeting fame.

Conclusion The episode concludes with heartwarming reflections on personal growth and future aspirations. Corey and Sarah reiterate the importance of honesty, confidence, and mutual support in both personal and professional relationships. Corey shares his reluctance to revisit reality TV but remains optimistic about his entrepreneurial ventures and future endeavors.

[67:18] Corey: “Probably try a little harder. Be a little bit more persistent.”

Sarah expresses her admiration for Corey’s resilience and looks forward to future collaborations, leaving listeners with a sense of hope and encouragement.

[68:21] Sarah: “I love, love that you have done so much. So much is coming for you.”

Notable Quotes

• Corey Niles [00:00]: “Chivalry's dead. A lot of men are boys these days. A lot of men just want to do have sex.”
• Sarah Lauren [23:08]: “I love that confidence puts you off the wall so much harder.”
• Corey Niles [35:05]: “I would recommend you not to do it.”
• Sarah Lauren [66:36]: “If you hook up with the same person, it's not an added number to your list.”

Key Takeaways

• The Decline of Chivalry: Corey and Sarah discuss how traditional values in dating are waning, with a focus on honesty and mutual support as essential components for healthy relationships.
• Impact of Social Media: The role of platforms like TikTok in shaping personal and professional trajectories, especially in the context of reality television.
• Emotional Resilience: Both hosts emphasize the importance of emotional intelligence, self-awareness, and resilience in navigating both personal relationships and public life.
• Authenticity in Relationships: The necessity of being genuine and supportive in relationships to build lasting connections beyond superficial interactions.

This episode of Tall Blonde provides a nuanced exploration of contemporary dating challenges, the pressures of reality TV, and the enduring need for authenticity and support in personal relationships. Corey Niles’ candid storytelling and Sarah Lauren’s insightful commentary make for a compelling listen that resonates with anyone navigating the complexities of modern love and life.

Transcript

[A]

Chivalry's dead. A lot of men are boys these days. A lot of men just want to do what?

[B]

Have sex.

[A]

The foundation for men these days has been pulled from underneath social media, dating websites, the whole society. What a man should be these days. Right? A lot of men are fucking broken. Corey Niles, Game on.

[B]

The star of Netflix's new special, Million Dollar Secret.

[A]

This is not for everybody. This is gut wrenching. Sabrina Carpenter. Sabrina's all up in my DMs.

[B]

Oh, no, actually, seriously, Sometimes the reason why women go back to Men Ask x a pax is because they don't want to add another number. They want to just recycle the number and it stays the same.

[A]

Ladies, you gotta come home. And fellas, it's time to go home.

[B]

What do you mean?

[A]

Enough of the bullshit. Even if you have an ex, this, that, just be honest. Be straight up, talk about it. Want that person. Go get it.

[B]

Welcome back to Tall Bl. We have another special guest today, so Corey. Corey, Corey. Corey Niles it is. I don't know why the one came in front of it. Are you the only Cory Niles to ever exist on Socials?

[A]

I didn't think about that. No, there's. I think I saw a few others and I was forced to put a one in front.

[B]

Okay. So there was. That's. It had to happen. It wasn't your first choice.

[A]

Yes. And at least one was the better number than two, so.

[B]

Right.

[A]

I chose one.

[B]

Mine's 71 at the end of mine because someone had my same name.

[A]

So I were born at 71.

[B]

No, definitely not. Definitely not. I'm a lot younger than that, but. But 71's my favorite number, so I went with that, but you went with one.

[A]

Did you play hockey?

[B]

No, but we billeted guys that played hockey, so that sent me into a little bit of a phase. But we're not. It's not about me in this podcast, okay? It's about you. So tell me or tell anyone that hasn't met you before who you are. Give us a little background, man.

[A]

Well, my name's Corey. Corey Niles from Toronto, born and raised. Mom is still out there. I'm the oldest of four.

[B]

Oldest of four. Okay.

[A]

Oldest of four. So I got to do things as right as I can.

[B]

Yeah, you're a leader.

[A]

I'm a leader. I. I'm in television. I am an entrepreneur. I own a company also called Rustic Edge Homes.

[B]

Okay.

[A]

Had that for years. You know, building houses, ground up, landscape, construction, all renovations. Started it from the Bottom.

[B]

So you're a manly man?

[A]

I'm a manly man. I try to be. I try to be.

[B]

In what ways do you try?

[A]

It's a dying breed.

[B]

I agree, but I'd like to hear your perspective on that.

[A]

Why? I think I'm a manly man.

[B]

No, no. Why? It's a dying breed. Like manly men.

[A]

That's a good one. Because chivalry's dead.

[B]

Thank you.

[A]

Chivalry's dead.

[B]

Just thank you. Thank you for coming on this podcast. Thank you for saying that, because that is exactly how I felt all my life. Well, not all my life for the past five years of dating, but chivalry is dead. And, I mean, don't want to jump into the dating here, but I just want your perspective on things. Like, if we're talking about chivalry, what does that include man?

[A]

Everything. You know, there's. There's. There's so much basis. I feel like, you know, the foundation for men these days, it's been pulled from underneath.

[B]

Okay.

[A]

It's like the rugs and pull from underneath. You know, social media, dating websites, the whole society, what a man should be these days. Right. They don't know how to do it anymore especially well. I guess I'm in the millennials, but the younger generation.

[B]

How old are you?

[A]

38.

[B]

38. How old do you think?

[A]

I know I look 21, but you.

[B]

I would have guessed like, 28.

[A]

Really?

[B]

Yeah. How old would you have Guessed? For me?

[A]

26.

[B]

Close.

[A]

23?

[B]

A bit higher?

[A]

27?

[B]

24? Do you think I, like, come across as that, or. No? No, no. Okay, that's good.

[A]

A lot more mature.

[B]

Thank you. That's nice. So going from, obviously construction and everything and then being on television, I know we're not allowed to say what you're doing, but a lot of people probably want to get onto television. They want to get in the scene in the know. Everyone watches all these shows. They want to get there. How did you get there? Was it like an application?

[A]

No. So I was, like, the only one on the show that didn't apply for it.

[B]

Okay.

[A]

You know, or any of the shows that I've done or just television general. It just came to me, you know, whether that was TikTok, whether that was just my social media presence. I mean, you got a big Instagram presence.

[B]

Semi.

[A]

I have a semi. Big TikTok presence. They actually found me on TikTok.

[B]

Oh, really? Okay.

[A]

Yeah. So I don't Even look at DMs on TikTok. I looked one day. I was at My aunt's house. And I saw this long ass message and I was like, should I damn, look at this. Should I respond? I still have the message.

[B]

But was it like. Can you tell us if it was like one of those people that are like a scout looking for people?

[A]

It was a casting agent who worked with this company hand in hand and was like, hey, we want you to do this. They couldn't say who it was yet.

[B]

Okay.

[A]

I called and she was like, hey, we love you. We love how you talk. We love the things that you talk, talk about. We love your energy. I think you'd be a great fit for something. They told me what it was about and I was like, oh, boy, this is gonna. And my aunt was like, it. Call, call. I was like, all right. So my doggy friend. My dog is my best friend, by the way.

[B]

Okay, so you're an animal lover. Yes, but preferably dog lover. You don't do cats.

[A]

Okay, I love cats, but I'm high. You could kill me with a cat.

[B]

Oh, okay.

[A]

You can kill me with a cat.

[B]

Like, for real. Like if there was a cat here, you would have to be like, I would.

[A]

Lot of reacting.

[B]

Okay.

[A]

You know?

[B]

Oh, I. Why are reactants so expensive?

[A]

Are they.

[B]

They're really expensive. And I just heard my friend laugh because they were like 80 bucks or something.

[A]

What?

[B]

No. Yeah.

[A]

No, dude.

[B]

Yeah, they're. They're expensive. Am I buying them from the wrong thing? I'm buying them from shoppers.

[A]

Eight eighty. Reactant.

[B]

$80. Reactant from where? Shoppers.

[A]

For what?

[B]

Reacting for like eyes. I got allergies.

[A]

There's no way it was 80 bucks. Somebody said we found. We got one. No, I got one.

[B]

Listen, I just asked react. I saw reactin on the thing. Who the fuck you did? I did self checkup. I should have brought.

[A]

I got reacted in the truck. I'll slang them to you right now.

[B]

Thank you. That'd be so nice. No, but it was. It was also reactin. $80 plus $0.40. Because Canada needs to pay for a bag.

[A]

Yeah, they do.

[B]

So it was $80.40.

[A]

I got some for free if you need them.

[B]

Thank you. Okay, so not a cat lover, just a dog lover. Sorry. We went a little track here. Okay.

[A]

I love it.

[B]

Animal lover. But a cat could kill you around. Cats got you. So going back to the whole getting into reality television.

[A]

Yeah.

[B]

You got the call with your aunt. Your aunt told you to take it. You're walking your dog.

[A]

Yeah, I was scared as hell.

[B]

Okay.

[A]

Actually, I wasn't yet. It Was more just like, let me. Let me see what this is all about.

[B]

Nerves are SC.

[A]

Nerves. As far as, like, no nerves yet. But it was just more like, I get so many messages about bullshit, you know? So I was like, okay, this sounds real, but this also sounds not real.

[B]

What do you mean bullshit? Like, what do you get messages about?

[A]

I mean, it's. You should know when you have a lot of followers. It's just a bunch of random ass messages. So when I say, don't go through.

[B]

My DMs, but mine are men being like, I'll pay you $7,000 for a picture of your feet.

[A]

Is that what they do, though?

[B]

Yeah, that's what they do.

[A]

Have you ever taken it?

[B]

No, surprisingly.

[A]

You've never taken 7K.

[B]

I've thought about it.

[A]

You wouldn't take 7K?

[B]

I don't think they're real. Like, I think that they're gonna ask for all my information and then, like, stalk me for the rest of my life and then tell them I owe them something. So, like, I'd rather get my money other places. So what are your DMs?

[A]

Like, I mean, not like that.

[B]

Not like that.

[A]

Definitely not like that. Yo.

[B]

Okay, so I just outed myself.

[A]

Oh, Lord.

[B]

Out your. What are your dms like that?

[A]

Mine are more just either like sponsorships or corporations or, you know, like fashion nova shit. We love Fashion Guy.

[B]

See, I get a few. You're a fashion guy.

[A]

I'm Fashion Guy. I might get the odd like, hey, you're handsome, that I never respond to.

[B]

Do you ever talk to any? Like, do you build a community or is it just like you're posting to post?

[A]

No, I definitely work on building a community.

[B]

Because you have 300K on Tik Tok.

[A]

Yeah.

[B]

And 30 plus K on Instagram.

[A]

Yeah. So I go live a lot on TikTok. So community is definitely important, you know, I mean, again, that goes back to just building a foundation and sticking within a niche, you know, so I've learned that.

[B]

And did your niche come. Sorry, we went all over the place. But if we go back to you get in the call, whatever, they obviously accepted you.

[A]

So that was a long process.

[B]

Oh, really? Okay.

[A]

It was like a seven month process, so that could be tedious on anybody. After the initial phone call, I got a phone call back about 20 minutes later, and it was the same casting agent. And she was like, I have never heard back this quick, but I have a meeting for you in like an hour.

[B]

No way.

[A]

I was like, oh, my God. Heart was fucking racing. I was like, okay. And I spoke to somebody.

[B]

So you wanted it that bad if your heart was racing?

[A]

I didn't want it at all. Oh, I didn't want to do it.

[B]

Okay.

[A]

I didn't want to do it.

[B]

Interesting.

[A]

But I was like, okay.

[B]

Your aunt did.

[A]

My aunt did. It was all my aunt's fault. But, you know, these are things that I've wanted, you know, it's like we do social media, we content create, we influence, because we want the biggest platform, you know? And I believe using your platform in a positive way is nothing but positive.

[B]

Absolutely.

[A]

Whether people fucking hate me off these shows, whether they love me, I'm all for it.

[B]

So did you have to do a, like, obviously interviews because you didn't get a call back that. So obviously you were speaking to her on, like, the interview. Yeah, because I did an interview for Love island last year. It was good. But I was like, casting agent? Yes. So I was like living in New York and they thought I was a New Yorker, but I was like Toronto based.

[A]

I can see you doing Love Island.

[B]

I would do it. So call me back if you want.

[A]

Me to be a bachelorette.

[B]

Really?

[A]

Yeah.

[B]

Because I feel like too many men.

[A]

Would be like, handle like 30 guys.

[B]

Could I?

[A]

I think so.

[B]

You think just from this, like. Yeah, 10 minute conversation, you think I could handle 30 guys?

[A]

100.

[B]

Okay, let's not take that the wrong way because.

[A]

Don't take it the wrong way.

[B]

Who was the girl that did like a hundred?

[A]

No, she did a thousand.

[B]

A thousand. Shut the up.

[A]

She did a thousand in 24 hours and she's trying to beat it right now.

[B]

Shut the.

[A]

Don't ask me why I know this.

[B]

Shut the upper.

[A]

She did 10, 24 hours.

[B]

I thought it was 100. 1,000 and I was shocked by 100.

[A]

That's 1,000.

[B]

Moment of silence for a thousand.

[A]

Honestly, I was. I stayed silent for it for a second.

[B]

But, like, realistically, can we just talk about that for a second since we're on the topic and I've wanted to ask somebody about this, knowing that she's a very pretty girl and I have all the respect for her. Would I do it? Absolutely not. Never in my life would I be caught dead doing that. But would you. Let's say you saw her out, you didn't know that she did that.

[A]

Yeah.

[B]

Would you have taken her out on a date? Like, would you have vibed with her?

[A]

No.

[B]

If you didn't know though.

[A]

No.

[B]

So she's just not your type?

[A]

No.

[B]

So what is your type?

[A]

I Felt like that one was coming. I don't know. You know, it's again, I've had a type for so long, but it's also like. Actually, no, I can't lie because from when I was younger, so my mom is blonde, blue eyes.

[B]

Okay?

[A]

Very beautiful.

[B]

We got a blonde, blue eyed in the studio right now and she's single.

[A]

My mom, blonde, blue eyes. You know, the world's perfect mother in my eyes, shit like that. And it's only when I started dating, when I was younger, when I realized it's like, damn, I think you do go for the type of like. And I was single mama on top of that, you know.

[B]

Oh, really? Okay.

[A]

So I had to become the man of the house early. So it's like everything I always fell into or fell for was. It was very similar to what, you know, she birthed with us. So yeah, blonde, blue eyes. Don't get me wrong, I'm a sucker for brunettes too. Okay, Jessica Alba, we're getting married one day.

[B]

Okay.

[A]

Sabrina Carpenter.

[B]

Does she know that? Do they know that?

[A]

Sabrina's all up in my DMs and.

[B]

I'm like, no, actually, seriously? No way. Oh, he's kidding. You're kidding. I'm a blonde. Okay, you gotta tell me, are you a natural blonde? No. Dirty blonde. Not this blonde.

[A]

Doesn't say, I see, I see some roots.

[B]

Okay. We don't need to call out here. Who knows if they can see the roots.

[A]

I can see her roots too.

[B]

That's rude.

[A]

Is it? Wait, is that rude? Okay, wait, that's not.

[B]

No, it's not rude. It's just like.

[A]

It's not rude, but like, if you're a natural blonde.

[B]

So it's not as rude as asking like, how much do you weigh? But it's like I like didn't want you to call me out for being fake. You know what I mean?

[A]

But doesn't mean you're fake. It means, hey, what's your natural color?

[B]

Okay, so I have a question.

[A]

Sure.

[B]

Do you? Okay, we didn't really get to your type. You said blondes, blue eyes, skinny, slim, thick. A little bit.

[A]

So I mean, that's a great question. Again, it's like, I haven't been in that world for so long.

[B]

Cause my question comes after this.

[A]

Does it? Yeah, I think. I don't judge if a woman's thicker. It does go beyond looks, but again, I have to be. Sorry. 100% attracted to you. Yeah, 100. Not 99, not 98. 100%.

[B]

Mm.

[A]

Whether you're skinny. Thicker. I mean, again, my mom's skinny. A lot of women in my family are skinny. Every girl I've ever dated, skinny. But I like a little me.

[B]

But what do you mean skinny?

[A]

So when I say skinny, I'm not talking fucking anorexic.

[B]

Yeah.

[A]

I'm talking fit, fit, fit, toned, some muscle toned. Even if they're not toned, just fit.

[B]

Abs. No abs.

[A]

If you have more abs than me, I can't do it. Okay, I appreciate it.

[B]

Okay.

[A]

But I can't do it.

[B]

Gotcha. You know, it's like, just like demasculates you a little bit.

[A]

Yeah. Let me be the fucking man. Let me be the man.

[B]

I want to be the strong one.

[A]

Let me be the strong one.

[B]

Okay, that's fine.

[A]

I'm a Taurus. Let me be the bull.

[B]

And height.

[A]

How tall am I?

[B]

Yeah, no, no, no height for the girl.

[A]

Five five to. Actually, no, I'll say five three to five foot nine for me.

[B]

Okay.

[A]

I'm six three, so.

[B]

Okay, that's a good height. That's like a. A very good height for a male. I should have said six. No, you can't lie.

[A]

I know.

[B]

I like six three to six seven.

[A]

God damn.

[B]

But I'm five nine and a half, and I carry that half with all my heart.

[A]

Six three to six seven. Yeah, you're stuck on that.

[B]

I have.

[A]

What if he's really handsome and he's five foot nine?

[B]

That's my height.

[A]

I know.

[B]

I don't feel.

[A]

That's weird to me.

[B]

It's like my feminine era, you know?

[A]

And that's how men feel. Like, I don't know how men that are like five foot five date someone that's like six foot three.

[B]

Yeah, but then some people are like, I don't like skinny girls. Like, they don't understand how someone could like someone skinny.

[A]

You'll never. And he's on steroids, my boy. Oh, you'll never see this motherfucker with a skinny girl. He likes some big.

[B]

See, but that's like some people's kinks and things that they like, everyone has a tape. Yeah, Like, I mean, I don't. I feel like I'm still figuring it out, but I'm 24, so I'm allowed.

[A]

You are allowed. You are allowed. But what are you trying to figure out the one. Like, do you. Do you get. Do you get a man's perspective in a lot of your conversations or. No.

[B]

In what way? Like, what do you mean? Like podcast wise or podcast wise?

[A]

Life in general.

[B]

Yes. So I've actually gotten a lot of comments. Some are negative. Cause I post advice. Right. So a lot is neg. Not a lot, but like I get people agreeing or disagreeing and it's very much so. I'm stern in what I'm thinking and what I'm saying. So obviously people are gonna give me a little bit of backlash, you know.

[A]

Yeah.

[B]

So I do read the comments and I see that a lot of people maybe disagree or a lot of people agree and I get the male's perspective, but I have been really enjoying it.

[A]

So what type of men are you getting that perspective from?

[B]

Some are years or 2, 6, 8, 5, 7. Some are.

[A]

What type of men are they? Like, are they the manly men?

[B]

I don't know, I don't follow them back.

[A]

Are they the girly man? Are they in fucking tech? Are they in like.

[B]

No. I've had some like people on the pod who are both content creators, but one has a nine to five and he was like, really good at advice. So, like, I take in what you guys say and I think about it.

[A]

That's important. That's important.

[B]

Like I let it sit, you know, Like I'm not just like stuck up being like, this is my way or the highway. No, like I'll sit with it.

[A]

Yeah.

[B]

So I think that's also important just in life because not everything's going to go your way. You have to understand other people's perspectives 100%. Yeah. So going into the whole dating scene, you were living in Toronto for a bit.

[A]

My whole life.

[B]

Your whole life and past relationships. Past dating. How was the Toronto dating scene? If you were to say it in one word?

[A]

Damn. Again, hard for me to think that far back. But a. I think there's.

[B]

Okay, yeah.

[A]

Forget Toronto for a second. Right. Toronto's a big city. Toronto's a massive city.

[B]

Not compared to New York. Yeah.

[A]

So Toronto's probably second biggest then the dating.

[B]

Okay, fine. We're talking about Toronto being a big city.

[A]

There's so much going on. I think there's just too much going on. Like, how do you focus on dating when there's that much going on? Like, how do you really zone in and hone in on. This is what I like. As a woman these days, you could talk to 35 different dudes.

[B]

Yeah.

[A]

As a man these days, you're already expecting them to already be talking to 35 different women.

[B]

But isn't that go vice versa?

[A]

It does. However, remember I just said chivalry's dead. A lot of men are fucking broken. So I'M writing a book called why All Men Are Fucking Broken.

[B]

Oh, really?

[A]

I am.

[B]

And can you explain why you feel so strongly about why all men are fucking broken? Was it fucking or did I just.

[A]

It's fucking broken. It's fucking broken.

[B]

I tend to add the effort into something. I'm glad it was.

[A]

And that's why I was like, you know what? This might work, me being on here, because I was like, that's. You get to see that side of things. I do believe in chivalry.

[B]

Okay, fill me in.

[A]

I'm not perfect, right? I am not the perfect person to be in a relationship with. None of that. But, you know, I fucked up many times.

[B]

In what way? Cheating not to just put it out there.

[A]

She just threw that right out there. No, crazier than that, you know, but it's like, okay, let's get back to the chivalry and Toronto and this and that. How many men, right? These men haven't even figured out.

[B]

The only thing going in my head right now is what's crazier than that?

[A]

It gets crazier. But listen.

[B]

What?

[A]

A lot of men are boys these days.

[B]

Okay, carry on.

[A]

Right, you need to hear this because you're trying to find a man, right? A lot of men are boys these days. A lot of men just want to do. Well, a lot of men want to do what? Have sex and what?

[B]

Hook up.

[A]

That's it. Why?

[B]

Drink beer?

[A]

Why do they want to do that? Drink beer, Hang out with their buddies, bang you when they can. Have their thing. Have your.

[B]

Because it's easy nowadays.

[A]

It is easy. Right? And why does that happen?

[B]

Because more girls want to settle down and more guys don't want to settle down as soon you think so. So I feel like girls are, like, kind of a little bit desperate to men, so men take it for granted.

[A]

What if again, in my eyes. And that gets to where, like, why a lot of men are broken. You know, we speak social media, we talk about, you got bumble Tinder, you got this, you got that, you got the clubs, you got. The whole society right now actually disintegrates men.

[B]

How, though? I thought it was giving them more.

[A]

Leeway, and this is not. It doesn't. It doesn't. I think a lot of men are pussies. I think a lot of men these days are pussies.

[B]

I can agree with that.

[A]

And that has nothing to do with, you know, their upbringing, this, that. It's like the world is so fucked up right now. Everything is at everybody's disposal. And you're easily replaced as a man. Right. And listen, and I'm not speaking for all men. I'm not even speaking about myself at this point. It's. It's. I've seen it a million times over and over and over and over. And it's like a lot of men just don't want to try anymore. A lot of men just don't want to try anymore. So just hooking up with somebody is easier. They don't want to get to know you. A lot of men don't want to be heartbroken off that shit.

[B]

Yes, but do you not think that that was happening for so long?

[A]

I think it was. And I think, again, social media really tipped the scale on that one.

[B]

Well, that tipped the scale also for people just thinking that they can get anyone from anywhere in the whole entire world, because you can. You have access to talking to them. But I agree to some extent to what you're saying. But I also think, like, morals in a sense of what do you want out of life? Like, do you want to have the happily ever after, white picket fence home, a wife, three kids, whatever, or do you want to have. I want to travel the world and be a surgeon and then just fuck everyone that I want whenever I'm in those cities? Like, what do you want?

[A]

I think both those sides are valid. You know, like, if you're a man that understands what he wants, right? If I sit here right now and I say, you know what? I want to be single for the rest of my life. I want to travel, I want to date, I want to fuck, then make that decision. You're a fucking man. Make that decision. But.

[B]

Oh, so you don't think people do make that decision?

[A]

They do, they do. But again, when it comes to the dating world, at least have enough balls. Okay, so let's say I'm dating 10 other women as a man. Be honest about it. Don't string them along, right? You don't deserve it. She don't deserve it, I don't deserve it, and he doesn't deserve it for himself. Don't string them along. Be honest. Grab your little balls and tell them, you know what? Here's what I want to do, but here's also what I'm doing. How do you feel about that?

[B]

I love that. But then you're never going to get anyone, because if a girl, if you tell a girl, like, I'm seeing eight other females, she's going to be like, fuck you.

[A]

You know, he was honest. And if that one can't understand what his passions are. Listen, one can still change his life, but he's being honest about what he's doing right now. And I think that gets taken away from a lot of men, that also gets taken from a lot of women. There's so many powerful independent women these days.

[B]

Yes.

[A]

And that's where I think women are on the come up 100%.

[B]

They're on the uphill rising.

[A]

And you always have been. But again, the social media, the this, the that, it puts you on a different platform now. Right. Especially as an influencer, you know, but.

[B]

Gives us eyes and a community to back us up for sure.

[A]

And when people watch you or watch me or this and that, it's like again, you could hate me, you could love me, but I'm gonna say something there that coincides with somebody else. That's the whole point of it for me.

[B]

So do you believe that there's a solution in all this or you just think it's bi person that like honestly, the solution?

[A]

I don't have the answer, but I think it's time, ladies, you gotta come home. You gotta come home. And fellas, it's time to go home.

[B]

What do you mean?

[A]

Enough of the bullshit.

[B]

You gotta come home. As in like, you gotta come home and be honest.

[A]

And like, even if you have an ex, this, that, just be honest, be straight up, talk about it. You want that person, go get it.

[B]

True. I kind of like that. Like, I like the be honest and be confident in who you are. I always say I think confidence puts you off the wall so much harder. Just because if you know what you want and you're stuck to it and people see that, whether it's work, men, females, whatever, life, you can majority of the time get what you want. Cause you're saying it to everyone. You're putting it out there, you're putting yourself out there.

[A]

And men lack confidence.

[B]

Yeah.

[A]

Which is sad. A lot of men lack so much confidence and a lot of them work harder than I do.

[B]

What do you think? Your non negotiables then I feel like you're a little harsh in dating. Like you're very. If it's not it, you're just like, next is now.

[A]

You should be.

[B]

Probably.

[A]

If it doesn't work for you, why are you holding on to it?

[B]

Probably. But at the same time, like.

[A]

But I'm also not that way.

[B]

Why then what are you?

[A]

Um, I don't know. I mean, I don't think I'm one to. If I'm in the dating world, I'm not Just gonna get rid of you because it just doesn't work for me.

[B]

Mm.

[A]

I probably wouldn't even put you in that position to be.

[B]

Are you on any dating apps?

[A]

Hell, no.

[B]

Have you ever been on any dating apps?

[A]

Yes.

[B]

And how did that go after three days? Which one was it?

[A]

And I probably wasn't supposed to. Which one was it?

[B]

So you've cheated.

[A]

She said, which one was.

[B]

You've cheated?

[A]

No.

[B]

100%. You have. Yeah. You said you probably shouldn't have been on a dating app.

[A]

I can't be, like, 25 years old, 23, on dating apps and shit like that.

[B]

Yeah, but you said you probably shouldn't. They don't work for me, though.

[A]

Like, they don't work for me.

[B]

You probably shouldn't have been because you were with somebody else, or you probably shouldn't have been because it didn't work for you.

[A]

It just didn't work.

[B]

And remember the honest thing? We were all about honesty here.

[A]

This is a long, long, long, long time ago. But I've never. I don't agree with them. Like, there's no. You're only on there for one reason. Don't tell me you're going on a goddamn dating site and finding love.

[B]

See, I don't.

[A]

It doesn't work.

[B]

I don't do dating apps, but I have, like, dabbled, you know, So I just feel like it's not a real person that I'm speaking to.

[A]

Right.

[B]

And that's why I can't gel with it.

[A]

Yeah.

[B]

Like, I just don't.

[A]

But even when I. Again, when I speak to, you know, the homies this or that, it's the same fucking people on there.

[B]

No, you can widen your range.

[A]

This girl winding her.

[B]

You can widen the range as far as you want. Okay.

[A]

But I mean, it's. It's just like. Like, now. Can you use a dating website as a tool? You know, let's say.

[B]

How is it a tool?

[A]

Oh, I'm just saying. Let's say you travel a lot, this, that, blah, blah, blah. It's hard to meet people. You really don't go out a lot. That's the tool, right? That's your way to have a conversation with somebody.

[B]

Okay.

[A]

But initially, what's that conversation about? What do you want out of this? I'm on this dating website because I'm looking for a wife. I'm looking for a husband.

[B]

Yeah, some people do.

[A]

Nah, you're on this dating website.

[B]

You know, the whole hinge advertisements, when it's like they've actually found their soulmate do you believe in that or do you think it's like a joke?

[A]

I think it's a joke. I think it's.

[B]

I believed in it.

[A]

Did you?

[B]

Yeah, I think I have one friend that, like, had a successful hinge relationship.

[A]

Like, six months.

[B]

No, I think they're still together.

[A]

What's wrong with like again? Let's go back to chivalry. What's. I would rather meet somebody.

[B]

Can you explain to me what chivalry means in your eyes?

[A]

I think chivalry to me is very close to this new Tad wife.

[B]

What's tad wife?

[A]

You don't know about that?

[B]

No.

[A]

What aren't you on TikTok?

[B]

I post a lot. Do I scroll a lot? Yes. Before bed.

[A]

About Tad wife? Yeah. Nobody's heard about Tad wife.

[B]

Have you heard about Tad wife? Okay, talk about it.

[A]

Like, actually, so it's where, like, clearly.

[B]

You have been doing a lot more TikTok than anybody else.

[A]

This is, like, so recent to me that I've seen it, but it's just more of, like, women that want that chivalry lifestyle. They want to be a girl again.

[B]

Oh, yeah, Sign me up. I want to be a.

[A]

They.

[B]

I don't know what it stands for.

[A]

Not necessarily. They don't want to be a housewife, but they want to feel feminine again. They want the man to be masculine.

[B]

Love this.

[A]

They want the traditional.

[B]

This is amazing.

[A]

They want the. I want to be home. You go out and work. Well, again, a lot of women these days that won't work with. Because.

[B]

But they can still work. But, like, maybe just if they have kids, stay home with the kids, you know, and if they want to go back to work, they can. That's their choice. But, like, they don't have to. Yeah, yeah.

[A]

I think it's important because that whole trad wipe trend or chivalry, it's like, you as a woman, you're that man's piece, and your house, he's your piece and vice versa. And that house is your home. Right? So you got to allow that man to work his ass off, come home and do his piece. That's you and the house and your family.

[B]

Kids, dog.

[A]

That whole kid's dog.

[B]

Whatever.

[A]

So there's a lot of women coming out right now talking about this trad wife thing. And I. I've commented a few times because I'm like, okay, so how can you speak on it? Right? How could you speak about.

[B]

Do you know what trad wife means? Like. Like stands for?

[A]

No. Do you? No, I think it's Literally just called traditional wife.

[B]

Oh, so it's just like a short form trad. Sorry.

[A]

Come on.

[B]

Didn't get there yet. It went right over my head in one year or the other.

[A]

Oh, shit.

[B]

It's late on a Friday.

[A]

Okay. Yeah, but it's like, you know, a lot of these, I'm like, how could you speak about being this traditional wife when you don't practice it? You ain't even got nobody.

[B]

How the fuck do you practice it.

[A]

If you're not with nobody? How could you even fathom the thought of being one? Paradox.

[B]

I can fathom it. And I'm single.

[A]

What is it that you want?

[B]

I've talked about this so many times, I don't even want anything anymore. I'm like, good to be single. Mingle.

[A]

You want the house, you want the money? You want the kids?

[B]

No, but, like, at the end of the day, I want three kids, I want a husband, I want a house, I want a dog. And I want to just. I want to still work, but I want to be with my kids majority of the time.

[A]

So why aren't you doing it?

[B]

I'm 24.

[A]

That's okay.

[B]

I'm too young.

[A]

You want to be an old mom or you want to be a young mom?

[B]

Well, I'll have kids at, like, 28.

[A]

You're sure about that?

[B]

Yeah. Mark my words.

[A]

Okay. And what's your. What's your type?

[B]

I say this every time. My type is don't forget the.

[A]

Every time. Like, what is it that you see? I'm sure you've answered that a million times. Forget the looks. Forget the.

[B]

I want a secure man that makes me feel safe, both emotionally, mentally, physically, and, like, obviously that goes for finances, but I could take part in that, too. There's by no means do they have to support me, but I want to feel safe in, like, our life. And I also want to feel encouraged. I want someone to believe in me. Because a lot of the times, you know, you meet men and they're so driven in what they're doing, which is amazing. I love that. But I also want them to take a step back and be like, no, you're also doing something. You're also wanting to, like, you know, do a brand or start a name for yourself or whatever that is. So I want someone to support me, encourage me, and be my safe place.

[A]

Honestly, that word support, though, is. Is also a dying breed to me. Right. Because, like, the things that you're looking for, it's like, every man also wants that, you know, and it's like, you get back to, like, why a lot of men are broken. They don't have the support from a female, from a female, from family. Everything stems from childhood trauma. This, that, you know, so the support or, you know, a man wanting to be able to live that life with you. I think a lot of them are terrified right now because they'll give it to you. Most men don't even know how to love them fucking selves at this point before they get into something like that. So how do you handle a woman like yourself that wants these things when you have no clue what you're doing with yourself right now?

[B]

True. But like, I don't know. That's tough.

[A]

Does that woman bring that out of that man?

[B]

I think everyone needs to come as their own. And then, like, obviously you can lift each other up is one thing, but like, to be solely dependent on somebody else is like you're asking for too much. You have to love yourself before you get into a relationship. And you have to know who you are.

[A]

Yeah. You know, and then if not, then you break up. And break up suck.

[B]

You're like a bit of a poet.

[A]

Am I?

[B]

I think so. You're very emotionally secure.

[A]

I don't think I am.

[B]

Oh, really? You don't think you are?

[A]

No.

[B]

Because the way you're speaking about, like, feelings and this and that and what people want in the deeper root of it. I feel like we're getting really deep really easily, though.

[A]

I think. I think we need to. Again, we're not talking about men or women. We're not justifying any size. I think, I think you have to be comfortable with your. With yourself, you know, the things that I speak or, you know, be. I'm talking to you right now like I've known you for five years.

[B]

Yeah.

[A]

It's like it, you know, there's no. Is it what it is? And this is just one subject.

[B]

Yeah. So. Yes, but like, if, If I can put the question back on to you. What do you want? If it's not just looks like, what is it that you and like, you know, you keep saying that's what majority of men want. What is it that majority of men want?

[A]

It's hard to speak on every man these days because everything is fucked. You ever read that book, by the way? Everything is Fucked.

[B]

No, I don't read books that more often.

[A]

Mark Manson. But, you know, the support is number one. Regardless of what said. A man has no money. It doesn't. Do you love that person for that person? How did you meet that Person again, I would rather meet somebody in person in a dating website.

[B]

Same.

[A]

So when I meet somebody or met somebody, it's like you're. There's a lot more adaptation there. As far as you know, this is what I want. That person just knows you a little bit better. You're not afraid to talk to that person. You want initially you want your partner to be your best friend.

[B]

At the end of the day, 100%.

[A]

There is no doubt about it. Like there's no, if I'm going to cry, I'm going to cry to you. You're never going to tell nobody everything that hurts me bothering me. I'm going to tell you. I'm an emotional person first and foremost. I'm a fucking roller coaster.

[B]

I feel like you're a big teddy bear.

[A]

I am, but it's hard for me to hide my feelings. Like if I'm pissed off and I go out to a club or a bar, you're going to know I'm fucking pissed off if I'm super happy. So I just either got to stay out situations or you know, it's just I'm very emotional and it's like, you know, did you do that to yourself or you know, is this childhood shit, is this shit not going your way these days? Are you having a bad day? I think I've always just been emotional.

[B]

And if you're very emotional, isn't that a little bit scary in like the television world or the social media world, like people could judge you.

[A]

I think, I think that's where it works for me though.

[B]

What do you mean?

[A]

As far as I get to be myself, you know. Yes, you're yourself with that woman and whatnot. But you know, cameras don't scare me. Microphones don't scare me. Never has. I was always that kid that wanted to do everything in front of people, you know.

[B]

Oh really?

[A]

Yeah, yeah. At first, don't get me wrong, when there's 150 cameras around you and one is this close to your face in every conversation. Yeah, it's a little nerve wracking. But you forget about them like three days.

[B]

I'm sure.

[A]

Like you literally just forget they're there because now your emotions are running wild.

[B]

Physically they put you into like an emotional state. Like you know, like they try to like push you.

[A]

They, they do it.

[B]

And people purposely got out of certain shows would always say that like two days felt like two weeks.

[A]

Yeah. It honestly felt like I was there for like a year. You have no contact to the outside world.

[B]

So Would you recommend people to do it or would you be like, listen, you need to, like, make sure that you're okay with yourself.

[A]

Yeah, I would recommend you not to do it.

[B]

Oh, really?

[A]

Yeah.

[B]

Why? You leave with a bit of, like.

[A]

You also have to know why you're doing it. Right. Like, are you doing it because you want the fame? Are you doing it because you want to go find love? Are you doing.

[B]

No one's actually doing it for love.

[A]

Right. I feel like when you try and think of some that are, it's like, no, they're actually not. They're doing it for themselves. Right. So it's like, what do you really want out of this? I did it. Cause I was like, you know what? I need this. I need this. I need to know that two years down the road, fuck, I did that.

[B]

Yeah.

[A]

For me, it's just all about opportunity.

[B]

I didn't pass it up. I took it.

[A]

Listen, I almost didn't get on the plane same day. I won't even lie to you. My aunt was at my house. Cause she was watching my dog for however long.

[B]

Yeah.

[A]

And I was just. My heart was coming out my chest and I'm texting the producers about to. As to why I couldn't come. This is day of flying there, 4:00am, and I, like, shedded a tear. I was so nervous, but there's just so much shit that I didn't take care of back home or didn't felt like I did, you know? And I was like, this is a big step forward. Once you're on this, there is no turning back. Yeah. My emotions were running wild and I literally just almost didn't get on the plane. I called the Uber and when I got in is when I took a deep breath and, hey, listen, I hugged my aunt. I was in tears, like, oh, shit, what the fuck am I doing? I was just scared.

[B]

I mean, I can only imagine because, like, knowing that your entire life is going to be changed from being on something, obviously, like, you post a video and anyone can see it, but, like, if you're not a big, you know, account or whatever, algorithm isn't gonna, like, post you everywhere, but like a reality or whatever show that you may be on is like, if it's a show, people already have an audience for it. Like, you already know that you're gonna be in the limelight. So it's like, holy. I hope I present myself well. I hope I am who I am. I hope people behind aren't disappointed in me. Like, was that going through your head?

[A]

Yes, it was for sure. The feedback that I got from, you know, production, whatnot was I was doing great and I didn't switch up. That was my main thing. You know, I was like, you know what, let's do these. But I gotta be vulnerable, right. I gotta still want to learn. I gotta be myself. But the main thing for me was just don't switch up. Be yourself and be vulnerable. Listen to others.

[B]

Did it work?

[A]

Yes.

[B]

Really did. So would you ever do something like that again?

[A]

Yes, and I'm going to. But I felt like I came back on top of that. The whole reason why I was like, you got to do this, or, yes, I came back a better man.

[B]

But then you said that you weren't.

[A]

So much about myself. No, because it's hard again, if you're not. You could probably do it. But if you're not used to being in that world or being comfortable on camera or talking, I shouldn't say, don't do it. It'll be a lot harder, you know, but it's definitely not for everybody. And like I said, I get that the way that they, you know, could persuade you to say and do things.

[B]

Is they put the plot line down and you just have to, like, follow it. Yeah. Well, I have some worst dates that I've been starting to do a series with my guests, and it's what people write in on their worst dates. And it's to say if you continue the date or you ditch. And I think it'd be very interesting.

[A]

Okay.

[B]

Because you're not like some of my other guests and I think you have a different perspective.

[A]

Let me hear this.

[B]

I'm going to read just a few and you could tell me.

[A]

I feel like these questions are more nerve wracking than.

[B]

Oh, really?

[A]

Because I don't know where you're going with this one.

[B]

Oh, no, these are just what people wrote in.

[A]

Okay.

[B]

Okay. This one's called the Emergency exit.

[A]

Oh, boy.

[B]

Sarah, this date was so bad. I literally ran out. We were at dinner and this guy starts oversharing immediately talking about his crazy ex, how he almost got fired from anger issues, and how he believes in alpha male dominance. Then he says, I feel like we have a really strong connection. I want to come back. Do you want to come back to my place? I excuse myself to the bathroom, but instead of going back, I walked right out of the front door, blocked him before my Uber even arrived.

[A]

Wow. Somebody wrote that in.

[B]

To write that in. Emergency exit.

[A]

Wow.

[B]

So let's like go back. Like, wow. So the red flags were we were at dinner and this guy starts over sharing immediately. So, like, we don't really know what over sharing to her means. Right. But over sharing, like, I'm sure it's, you know.

[A]

Yeah.

[B]

I don't know if it's like, sexual or family clearly overshared, something. Yeah, yeah, talking. Oh, talking about his crazy ex, how he almost got fired for anger issues.

[A]

And this is their first date.

[B]

This is their first date. This date. So, like, I'm sure any. Whatever. And how he believes in the alpha male dominance.

[A]

Oh, God. Yeah. That. That whole. Yeah. Goodbye.

[B]

Really?

[A]

That's. Yeah, that whole thing is a massive.

[B]

So if this was like your sister, what would you tell her?

[A]

Yeah, yeah. Pack your bags and get the fuck out or am I coming to pick you up?

[B]

But do you think that people should, like, stay at the date or do you think that people should.

[A]

No, no, no. I mean, look, it's. Everybody's different, you know, and it's like there's a lot of women out there that would have just got up and left. They're not even playing games. Why wait to see what the fuck is about to happen later? I watch way too many scary movies.

[B]

Seriously though, right?

[A]

Or do you go through it and just excuse yourself politely and.

[B]

Or say, like, you feeling sick, Like a nice excuse so that they know you left, like you're done.

[A]

Just that one is. Nah, A. You're talking about your crazy ex on your first date. That's a. No, no. You're bringing up the fact that you're an alpha male. It's like you got fucking issues.

[B]

What exactly does alpha male dominance mean?

[A]

I mean, I like to think of myself as an alpha male.

[B]

Okay.

[A]

And it doesn't mean that you're better than people. This, that.

[B]

Because alpha means, like on the top.

[A]

Alpha's just more like. Yeah, you know, you can put me in a room of a thousand people and yeah, I'll be the one to speak or this or that, or give ideas. And, you know, you gotta lift a thousand pounds. Shit, I wanna do that.

[B]

Yeah.

[A]

You know, it's like, it's just being a fucking man. If you in the corner hiding, you ain't the alpha. I know when I walk into a room, I'm already the alpha. Confidence wise. I already know that.

[B]

So you're confident, 100%.

[A]

Not cocky.

[B]

How do you be confident? Like, is it like standing up straight, like, having conversations with everyone in the room? Like, how do you show that you're confident as a man?

[A]

I think it's just understanding your worth. First and foremost, I think it's the things that you say. Are they valuable or are they meaningless? A lot of guys, I think they're alpha males have no clue. They're talking about just because they go to the gym, steroids. You ain't the alpha, bro. You know what I'm saying? But it's like, how do you carry yourself? How do you speak? Are you listening?

[B]

Are you listening?

[A]

Are you listening? Are you, you know, are you getting the bill on date night? Are you just doing the little things that she wants? Are you doing the little things that your friends want? You know, so I think alpha is just more of like, let Corey do that.

[B]

Protecting others.

[A]

And people know. People also know who the alpha male is when you have to call yourself the alpha, which I do on Tik Tok.

[B]

You did right now. But it's.

[A]

It says the alpha, but it's. That's just a funny thing for me. Yeah, but no.

[B]

So that makes sense. So I feel like you could kind of tell who the alphas are, but alpha male dominance would mean, like the leader of everything, but, like, dominate it. Like he controls the room. Yeah, that's a little. Little much on a first date.

[A]

Oh, oh, oh. This is the first date.

[B]

First date.

[A]

Yeah. But you have to show your. Your feminine side to a woman at that point when it comes to a first date.

[B]

So first date, I think keep your. Keep your manly.

[A]

Yes, but when I say the feminine side, that means don't say I'm the alpha. Don't. Don't give her I'm the alpha energy. Right. You give her big dick energy. Yeah, but saying I'm the alpha is.

[B]

Big dick energy Goes a long way.

[A]

A little outlandish. It does. It's full of energy.

[B]

You can fool anyone.

[A]

No, that's.

[B]

You can. You got me. Okay, next one. The expired. Okay. No, I don't even wanna read that. The Secret Girlfriend. This is a good one. So I'm on my third date with this guy. The things are going great. Then while we're at dinner, his phone is blowing up. He finally answers, walks away for a few minutes, then comes back looking pale. I ask if everything's okay, and he says, y. Just my crazy ex. Then five minutes later, a girl storms into the restaurant, walks straight up to him and says. So this is why you haven't even answering my text.

[A]

Yikes.

[B]

He looked like he saw a ghost. I grabbed my bag and left.

[A]

And it was his real girlfriend.

[B]

Crazy ex.

[A]

Apparently it was crazy ex. So he's on a news.

[B]

Have you Ever had a crazy exact.

[A]

Yes.

[B]

Has she ever done something like that?

[A]

Yes.

[B]

Really?

[A]

Well, yeah. I mean, wouldn't you.

[B]

I've.

[A]

That's not extreme.

[B]

That's not extreme?

[A]

No.

[B]

What the fuck's extreme?

[A]

That's not extreme at all.

[B]

Tell me one thing that was. You don't have to say your ex did it. But what is something that's extreme?

[A]

If. If my lady is. Is out and I've called 10 times and I know where she is or I think where she's gonna be, it's like, yes, that's a trust thing, first and foremost. But there's only a certain amount of times my ex is calling before I actually pull up. I'm speaking about me. I'm fucking crazy, y'all.

[B]

I'm crazy, too.

[A]

Like, when I love, I love. Like I'm obsessed with it, you know? So it's like, nah. Like, just don't play with me in that route. Cause we gonna handle it.

[B]

I kind of love that you're crazy. Cause I'm so crazy, too. And I love it, though, because it's like, I love hard. So, like, if you break my heart, I'm gonna.

[A]

You're gonna make sure that person feels it.

[B]

I'm like, if I feel this, you're gonna feel this.

[A]

Yeah, you're fucked.

[B]

Yeah, I'm fucked. But it's. It's fine. I mean, you said you're the same way, so then you're fucked.

[A]

Yeah, I mean, it's. It's. It depends. It depends how long you been dating the person, too, right? It's like, if it's just like a.

[B]

How long's your longest relationship?

[A]

Shit. 13 years.

[B]

That's a really long time.

[A]

I know.

[B]

Why did you end?

[A]

I mean, it's not even that we ended. It's just.

[B]

So you're still together. Well, that's not ending.

[A]

Sometimes.

[B]

Sometimes what?

[A]

No. Maybe.

[B]

So you hook up on the reg.

[A]

Would you do that? You would just hook up with your ex on the reg?

[B]

There's only one ex that I've been back and forth with.

[A]

That's toxic.

[B]

Maybe we'll end up together sometimes.

[A]

Or do you just do that? Or do you just do that until you find somebody? Is it a comfort thing?

[B]

I think.

[A]

Yeah, it is, right?

[B]

Yeah, it's a comfort thing in the most untoxic way in the entire world. It's gonna sound really bad.

[A]

Oh, no.

[B]

If you hook up with the same person, it's not an added number to your list.

[A]

No.

[B]

So they think that we're coming back, but in reality, we're saving a number.

[A]

Wow, that's crazy.

[B]

What do you think about that?

[A]

That's crazy.

[B]

I've never admitted that. So, like, like, take. Let's take a moment for a second.

[A]

I'm trying. I'm wasting.

[B]

Breathe. Because I just. I let that out and I haven't said it out loud.

[A]

Say it again.

[B]

Okay. I don't really want to just say it again. So sometimes, sometimes. Not me in general, just sometimes the reason why women go back to men past X, a PAX fling, is because they don't want to add another number. They want to just recycle the number and it stays the same. Is recycle the right word?

[A]

Probably.

[B]

Yes.

[A]

Close.

[B]

It works.

[A]

Recycle, reuse.

[B]

I think you get the gist.

[A]

Yeah, that's. Is that how. Is that how you guys think? What about a man?

[B]

So, Okay, I didn't say that's how I thought.

[A]

What if a man said that, though? Right now he's.

[B]

And that's.

[A]

That's crazy.

[B]

I'm kidding, I'm kidding, I'm kidding. I'm kidding. I'd like, be like, Listen, are you a narcissist? No, Absolutely not.

[A]

Have you ever been?

[B]

Are you Sometimes.

[A]

I used to be.

[B]

I know. I'm not a narcissist. I go to way too much therapy to be a narcissist.

[A]

I don't think I was a narcissist.

[B]

I think my therapist would have told me by now if I was a narcissist.

[A]

You see one?

[B]

I see a therapist Every Monday at.

[A]

9:45Am I mean, I understand why, but.

[B]

Like, why do you understand why? What's wrong with me that you've known in this past 40 minutes?

[A]

But no, is that okay? So as a woman, are you just saying that because you're like, I don't want my body count to go up?

[B]

No, no, no. I'm saying this as a general statement because this is what a lot of girls do. Am I right? Thank you.

[A]

Is that what they do?

[B]

I got the nod.

[A]

Even you. All right.

[B]

Not even her. It's just, we understand. We have a lot of girlfriends and we get it.

[A]

You get it?

[B]

So do guys not do that?

[A]

No.

[B]

Well, they don't care. It's like, woo hoo. We have a thousand kills. Like, it's so insane.

[A]

Motherfucker is just gonna add another body to his count.

[B]

Yeah. And it's like, congratulations.

[A]

Most men don't know how many women they've been with.

[B]

Oh, no. Every woman lies 100%.

[A]

Like, if a woman says, and I've heard this, you tell me if it's true. Like if a girl says she's been with 10 people, I've heard always double it. I've heard triple, but I heard always double it. Yeah.

[B]

If I say my answer, you won't ask me, Correct? No, very true. For double, not triple. Triple is a little extreme.

[A]

That is true.

[B]

Though you wouldn't tell us your body count, so if somebody's just. I don't. You said you wouldn't ask me, so I'm just wondering. You said you're a very open, honest, confident man.

[A]

Yeah.

[B]

Would you.

[A]

My body count?

[B]

Yeah.

[A]

I don't know.

[B]

So you don't have a list on your phone?

[A]

No. What?

[B]

Wait, some people do. In their notes app.

[A]

No, I honestly don't know. Genuinely speaking.

[B]

Above or below 100.

[A]

Oof. Right? I'm like.

[B]

Janelle, Joanne, Becky, Rebecca.

[A]

Those sound like all white girls. Yeah, I don't know. I actually don't know if it'd be over or above.

[B]

Okay, whatever.

[A]

Over, above.

[B]

So the reaction that I'm getting, I'm assuming, but I'm not gonna say.

[A]

Are you over 100?

[B]

No. Fuck no. Are you kidding me?

[A]

Are you over?

[B]

Not a whore?

[A]

Are you over 50?

[B]

No, I'm 24 years old. Listen, take it back.

[A]

That 24 year old just smashed a thousand dudes.

[B]

Yeah, that is fucking wild. And I ain't hurt.

[A]

Okay, fine, I take it back. Is it over 25?

[B]

I told you. You asked me if I was gonna. I said, are you gonna ask me my number? And you said no. And I said, I'm gonna answer this question, so you can't ask me now.

[A]

Fine, it's over 25. Fine.

[B]

No, it's not. It's 25. Okay, but.

[A]

But does body count have anything to do with anybody's?

[B]

It has nothing. You can do whatever the you want as a woman, as a man, whatever. But you just have to understand, actions come with consequences. If you're a thousand guys on the Internet, chances are Jimmy, with his living at his mom's house that you want, isn't gonna want you to come back to his mom's.

[A]

What if. What if you're a dream guy, you met him, you guys are chit chatting, and he said to you openly, you know, he's really into you. I want to tell you something.

[B]

What is he telling me?

[A]

When you ask him, he'll tell you the truth.

[B]

One hundred or a thousand?

[A]

What if he says, I've been with 500 women, but I really, really like.

[B]

You, I'd say yeah, let's see about that. Because chances are if we're going out one night, he's gonna be like all over other girls. If you're with 500 women you just you like.

[A]

But see you, you are first of.

[B]

All, who are the woman you just. Let me see top five.

[A]

You just set them up for disaster.

[B]

Let me see top five.

[A]

But you just set them up for disaster.

[B]

Top hundred.

[A]

I guess you're already thinking it really.

[B]

Depends on like which type of woman like you can get five. Anyone can get 500 people under their belt. But what 500 people?

[A]

I've only been with like 11.

[B]

I love, love that number. I've only been with seven.

[A]

Actually. Seven what? Seven is my favorite number.

[B]

71'S my favorite number.

[A]

So you're more than 14. Cuz I got to double it.

[B]

I was being honest. This podcast is all about honesty.

[A]

We got to double that. Yeah.

[B]

Okay, I have a rapid fire questions for you, but do you have any questions for me before?

[A]

How do you handle breakups? I get angry in a short world. Do you?

[B]

I get angry.

[A]

Do you overthink?

[B]

Well, I've never been broken up with. I've only broken up with them.

[A]

Do you obsess over that person?

[B]

Yeah. I have been known to be addicted to my exes, which.

[A]

Nothing wrong with that.

[B]

Nothing wrong with it. I dated them for a reason.

[A]

Yeah. How do you handle them though?

[B]

Block. Delete. Delete all the photos.

[A]

Oh no, no, no.

[B]

Cut them out of my life.

[A]

How much that hurts us.

[B]

If someone says something about an ex, I'll be up. I don't know him.

[A]

That kills.

[B]

We have nicknames for every guys that like X's. Like we just have the nicknames.

[A]

When you block us, it secretly us up.

[B]

When you block us lets us know that you really are butt hurt about it.

[A]

I don't do no blocking.

[B]

I'm sure you have.

[A]

I'll let you watch.

[B]

No, I don't do any blocking anymore because I want them to watch.

[A]

I don't do anything that would ever like a bit of a make that person or actually like neither. Because it's what you do, right? It's what you do when you're not together that really shows who you are.

[B]

Well, I mean my relationships have been when I was very young, one was one of my relationships when I was like 15. So like that Sarah is totally different than this Sarah. No, that's like almost 10 years ago. Thank you. 10 years ago. Because I'm turning 25 this year, which is a big number.

[A]

25. It's a champagne birthday.

[B]

I know. Oh, it isn't champagne.

[A]

Wait, no. Champagne is when it lands on the.

[B]

Same day as, like, your actual day. When's your birthday, day, month, year?

[A]

4-23-86.

[B]

86? 4-23-86. May 22, 2000.

[A]

You're a Taurus.

[B]

No, I'm a Gemini.

[A]

Oh, you are? My brother's a Gemini.

[B]

I don't really know anything about astrology.

[A]

My brother's a Gemini.

[B]

So how are you in breakups? Crazy. Wild.

[A]

Oh, I don't handle them well. Oh, no, I get, like, lost in.

[B]

My brain and like, you, like, are in your room eating ice cream.

[A]

Listen. Yeah, I think. I think breakups, like, in my opinion, are like the closest thing to death. Like, the emotional pain that you go through is so much greater than physical in my eyes.

[B]

How many breakups have you gone through in your life?

[A]

Like four.

[B]

It's a pretty good.

[A]

I've always dated long term.

[B]

So what was your shortest relationship? Longest was third, 12 years.

[A]

My shortest was two years.

[B]

Oh, it's pretty good. Situationships.

[A]

Situationships.

[B]

Lots or no? No, you just date.

[A]

No, I don't just date. Situationships are stupid.

[B]

They are stupid.

[A]

What are they for?

[B]

Fun.

[A]

To just keep fucking until you find somebody else. Now we make up words for it.

[B]

But if you're honest and you tell each other that.

[A]

That you're in a situationship, then it could work. But what if one person loves the other person more than the other?

[B]

Then you're fucked. And it always happens that way, right?

[A]

That's what they call it, a situation. Shit. But no, breakups suck.

[B]

And you're just like, crazy.

[A]

Even if I'm the one that caused it. Same. I'm like a baby about it. Behind closed doors.

[B]

Oh, a baby. You're not angry?

[A]

No. Sometimes I get angry.

[B]

Okay. Do you live alone?

[A]

Yeah.

[B]

With your dog?

[A]

Yeah.

[B]

So your dog has probably seen you in that state all the time.

[A]

And he gets depressed too.

[B]

Aw, poor puppy. What's his name?

[A]

Memphis.

[B]

Memphis. That's so cute. And what's the type of dog?

[A]

Rowdy European rottweiler.

[B]

Oh, I did see in, like, your posts. You use him as bait.

[A]

He is.

[B]

He's a cutie.

[A]

Actually, I don't use him as bait. He's just.

[B]

You don't share much. Last question before we do rapid fire. Yeah, you don't share much on your social media about yourself. You only do, like, little snippets of, like, you singing or, like, you hammering or things like that. You Don't. I couldn't get much out of it. To try to find stuff about you again.

[A]

A lot. Especially Instagram. Like 300 pictures came down. Because I had to. Right. We're remarketing this, that, getting ready for all that stuff and.

[B]

Yeah.

[A]

And then. Yeah, it's more. You're not wrong. It was more just giving little snippets of you. Snippets of me? Clips.

[B]

Do you think you'll like carry on more longer form content?

[A]

Yeah, for sure. Especially when my podcast things get released. And then you gotta come on mine.

[B]

I'll come on yours. You want me come on yours.

[A]

Yeah, but mine's gonna be. Oof.

[B]

I'm ready.

[A]

We're just gonna vibe though.

[B]

My whole life is on the Internet, so you can ask me anything.

[A]

I saw that.

[B]

Is that a bad thing?

[A]

Especially when you have like fucking camera like right in your nostrils and you're like eight tequilas deep as fucked up.

[B]

I mean the people need to see what the people need to see. This is Sarah. Lauren. And this is her.

[A]

How many guys are you dating right now?

[B]

17. I'm kidding.

[A]

Damn. I knew it was damn.

[B]

00, 0.

[A]

That's a lie.

[B]

But a guy that I was talking to just made the NHL and I'm sad, but it's fine.

[A]

Oh no. You're dating athletes now? I used to play.

[B]

No, no. I'm out of that phase. Out of the face.

[A]

I used to play professional basketball.

[B]

Oh, really?

[A]

Yeah.

[B]

Congrats.

[A]

I went to University of South Alabama. I played professionally overseas for four years in Greece.

[B]

If I slid into your DMs like five years ago, would you have answered?

[A]

Five years ago? Probably not.

[B]

Really? What is it? Not the blue eyes.

[A]

You have green eyes.

[B]

So that they're hazel.

[A]

Are they?

[B]

Yeah.

[A]

Yeah. Wouldn't have worked.

[B]

So you wouldn't have done it?

[A]

No.

[B]

You wouldn't have answered me.

[A]

I probably wouldn't have seen it, to be honest.

[B]

So, like, if you did see it though, you wouldn't have answered?

[A]

Probably not.

[B]

Why? You're not into me.

[A]

Actually, that'd be me lying. I don't know at that point. Cause at that point you're only looking at somebody's pictures.

[B]

My pictures are pretty good. Not gonna lie.

[A]

But like we said, it starts with the physical aspect. Right.

[B]

But you're not into me physically. You're like a. I'm like butt hurt right now. Watch your words.

[A]

Like you want me to rate you?

[B]

Rate me?

[A]

Will you rate me?

[B]

Yeah, absolutely.

[A]

In all honesty.

[B]

Do it all the time. Let's Go.

[A]

Like a real rating.

[B]

Real rating. Oh, my God. I'm fucking scared.

[A]

Just based on this?

[B]

Yeah. Don't make me cry. Fine. B, I won't cry.

[A]

I'm gonna say I would give you.

[B]

Even though my Hamlet tells me this.

[A]

Even if I'm married with kids, I'm still gonna rate you the way I should. I'm gonna Give you.

[B]

What?

[A]

8.9.

[B]

Yay. I thought I was gonna get, like, a five or some shit. You gave me, like, the evil eyes.

[A]

8.9.

[B]

I knew he had a good taste in him.

[A]

There's room for growth, you know?

[B]

Where's the growth? Big tits.

[A]

That's, that's, that's for you to figure out. That's for you to figure out.

[B]

Definitely the big deal.

[A]

The knows if you have fake tits or not. I, I, I didn't look once.

[B]

A lot of guys aren't into that though. But that's a topic for different. Really?

[A]

Don't do it interesting. Don't do it interesting.

[B]

Even a sports brother. A perky.

[A]

That's. I think that's a hideous look.

[B]

Okay.

[A]

I don't like it. They don't move.

[B]

I'll rate you.

[A]

Oh.

[B]

How tall are you again?

[A]

Six, Three, four.

[B]

Give me, like, a full, like, face turn. And is your all tatted?

[A]

No, I'm not all tatted.

[B]

I'm like, somewhat, like, down to, like, the pectoral muscle.

[A]

Yeah.

[B]

Arms Some. You work out every day. You have a dog?

[A]

I do.

[B]

So you're mature sometimes. You're confident sometimes. So I'd give you an 8.2.

[A]

Holy fuck.

[B]

There's room for improvement. You told me that. You better know that's coming back at you.

[A]

Can I change my rating? Okay. Why an 8.2?

[B]

I don't like the shoes.

[A]

Honestly. They're Timberland, but they're, they're Chelsea boots.

[B]

And I would have had, like, a nicer, like, khaki hat if you're gonna go khaki jacket and khaki flannel and like flannel. I mean, do your thing, boo. But, like, flannels are, like, a little bit we could have. I think it's just the style, bro.

[A]

We live in Canada.

[B]

Your face is beautiful. Your body's great. I just think I could help you out style wise. We can get you from that 8.2 to a 9. I can guarantee you.

[A]

Dude, I'm like the fucking fashion icon on all this shit. The shoes, dude, they're Chelsea boots. It is freezing and snowing outside.

[B]

The shoes are giving. I just came from work I didn't.

[A]

Just come from work. God damn it. And this is an oversized.

[B]

What about my fit?

[A]

Hold up. We'll get there in a second. This is an oversized Tommy shirt.

[B]

Okay?

[A]

Okay. Yeah, I could have just wore something tight. Looked all jacked. I didn't do that. Comfy. And I put on the forest green hat. Why? Because nobody's got this.

[B]

I don't see any forest green.

[A]

What kind of. What kind of shoe? That's the whole damn point. What kind of shoe should I be wearing? Should I wear white socks? No.

[B]

I'm just so glad you're not wearing ankle socks. We've had a conversation about that.

[A]

Ankle socks.

[B]

But maybe, like, white socks. We didn't need to come in with the charcoal.

[A]

Holy fuck.

[B]

Holy shit.

[A]

Yo. Ankle socks should be illegal.

[B]

They should be.

[A]

Especially for men.

[B]

Thank you.

[A]

Especially for men.

[B]

Thank you. I got hate on the Internet for that. Nah, men do weird, right? Like, imagine a man walking and it's slipping under his heel.

[A]

Now, bro, just listen.

[B]

Just think of it.

[A]

To all men, please do not wear ankle.

[B]

Throw them out. I got them for Christmas.

[A]

Burn them.

[B]

I haven't worn them yet.

[A]

Burn them.

[B]

What about girls? Are they allowed to wear ankle socks?

[A]

Yes.

[B]

Girls can do whatever the they want. Right?

[A]

Like, I imagine, like, if you're a woman. There's a dude in the gym, he's wearing shorts, and all you see is his ankles.

[B]

Yeah, not a good say. I don't need to see.

[A]

I at least pull mine up. Up. And then I wear, like, my short shorts.

[B]

Oh, you wear short shorts.

[A]

Wear short shorts, oversized tee and a flannel.

[B]

Okay. My outfit. And then we're going rapid fire.

[A]

I'm so upset about these shoes, bro. These are Chelsea boots.

[B]

I'm so sorry.

[A]

Somebody.

[B]

Okay, someone might. Someone else might be into that we said about how other people have their. You know, they have their things.

[A]

What kind of shoes would you have wore? Some Chucks. Some Air Forces?

[B]

Not Air Forces. Like some nice.

[A]

Somewhat. I'm waiting for it. Ideally, she's like, anything but those.

[B]

Like golden Goose.

[A]

Oh, my God.

[B]

Or like a nice.

[A]

You're putting that over these.

[B]

Over what? The sock.

[A]

When I stand up, they look way differently.

[B]

Stand up really quickly. I think they look the same.

[A]

It's hard to find shoes.

[B]

I think they look the same.

[A]

I got. Listen, I got size 15 shoe. It's hard.

[B]

I can hook you up with somebody. You look great, though. Like, it's not. An 8.2 is a fucking good number. Okay? And 8. Some people don't even hit 8 in their life.

[A]

I'm a little more butt hurt about the damn Chelsea's boots.

[B]

Oh, really? Did you just get them?

[A]

No. Oh, they're worked in.

[B]

We can't return them.

[A]

Yeah.

[B]

Okay, my turn. Go. But my. My boots are rotted up. But, like, we're going out.

[A]

How the are you dissing my boots right now when you got them things on?

[B]

No, they are my going out shoes. So that if someone spills a drink.

[A]

Or something, don't go out with those. Go back home.

[B]

Well, guess what? I'm not going out with you.

[A]

Oh.

[B]

So you don't have to walk around with me in these ratty boots. And they're not that bad.

[A]

Yeah, but I want you to find something.

[B]

It's just a little tip.

[A]

Oh, what the fuck happened to the tip?

[B]

I've been out and about. They've lasted me a long time. This girl got on other than the shoes.

[A]

She got on them flappers. Right now that whole front lip about to pull off. If I grab the front of that, it's gonna pull off.

[B]

No, grab it.

[A]

It's on its way.

[B]

Point proven. Other than that, I just got this shirt.

[A]

I'm ready. In your fit, I'm gonna give you a. Those two colors don't go together, but you could pull it off.

[B]

Says the man. Says the man. With the forest green cap on and a flannel shirt.

[A]

It matches.

[B]

Sorry, I had to go there. You triggered me. You pulled the muscle and I had to go there.

[A]

Dudes can sit here and be like, oh, you look. No, you look great.

[B]

Thank you.

[A]

You're doing all right. Okay.

[B]

My fit goes with a leather jacket.

[A]

Okay.

[B]

Because we're going to a sports game.

[A]

And I had on.

[B]

No, the jacket. I have nothing to say. The jacket. The jacket is fine. We love the jacket. What's that? TikTok you want a jean vest?

[A]

Jeans? Fire.

[B]

Thank you.

[A]

I thought that almost remind me of G Stars.

[B]

They look like acne. Studio jeans.

[A]

No idea what that is. Okay.

[B]

Do you know what mew mew is?

[A]

No, but I can't tell if I like that color.

[B]

The color doesn't like you. It would go great with the.

[A]

No.

[B]

Army green.

[A]

No, it wouldn't. I like that color.

[B]

I studied color theory, but, like.

[A]

I'm just looking at your accessories. Okay.

[B]

Goes with your hat. Sorry, I took my nails off.

[A]

I'll give your fit. I'll give your fit. Honestly, I'll give your fit 7.4.

[B]

Okay, that's fine. Whatever. I don't even care. Okay, so rapid fire questions. Let's go answer these how you wish.

[A]

Right?

[B]

But, like, try to keep them condensed. Okay.

[A]

Like, small.

[B]

Yeah. I've already asked you some of these, so let me just quickly. Okay. Go to date night. Fragrance.

[A]

I would go Mr. Burberry. Which they don't make anymore. Or Givenchy.

[B]

Givenchy.

[A]

I'm sorry?

[B]

Givenchy.

[A]

Givenchy.

[B]

Givenchy. What by Givenchy? Just a classic.

[A]

Honestly, forget what it's called, but it's a gold bottle and it's a triangle.

[B]

Okay. I feel like there's not many of those.

[A]

And it's like, if you're a single dude, it's a pussy magnet.

[B]

Oh, okay.

[A]

I don't have it anymore. I just have Mr. Burberry.

[B]

Gotcha. So you're not a magnet anymore? Most. Okay. Biggest ick when it comes to dating.

[A]

Biggest ick. Damn. I don't think I've ever heard that one before.

[B]

Something you don't like, like, it would turn you off. You'd walk out, you ditch the date.

[A]

Her bringing up her ex.

[B]

True.

[A]

Gotta go.

[B]

Yeah.

[A]

You still ain't over him yet.

[B]

Yeah. Like, don't bring me into this. You know what I mean?

[A]

I'm already gonna fuck your life up.

[B]

Yeah.

[A]

Oh, now it's like.

[B]

Okay, you know, so, ladies, don't ask me for this one's phone number after this. Okay? Don't let. Don't ask me to connect you with them, because I ain't gonna. Okay, last question. If you could give yourself one piece of advice, what would it be?

[A]

Myself.

[B]

Your past self.

[A]

Oh, man. My past self. It's a good question. Probably try a little harder. Be a little bit more persistent. I'm a very persistent person.

[B]

Like, be a little bit more driven.

[A]

A little bit more.

[B]

Yeah.

[A]

I mean, any time I thought I was tired or couldn't do this, couldn't do that, we're full of energy, you know? And your passions are. I don't love anything that I'm not in love with. So, you know, I would definitely tell my younger self, like, hey, just, you know, keep going. As cliche and stupid as it sounds, a lot of people could say that I would tell my. No. For me, that hits home.

[B]

Keep pushing.

[A]

To me, that hits home. Because I know if I did a few little things back then, you know, not that I'm in a bad situation or it's like, no, but. But who knows where life would have been if I just did that one extra little thing.

[B]

I mean. Yes. But also, you've done so much. So much is coming for you. I can feel it. And you coming out with a new podcast. You're so easy to talk to like this was. I mean, this time went by so fast. I recorded for even longer than I thought.

[A]

Yeah.

[B]

So thank you for being you.

[A]

Thank you.

[B]

Thank you for coming on the Top podcast. You're so welcome.

[A]

Can't wait till the next time.

[B]

Yeah, I can't wait till I'm on yours. He said it here, so I might.

[A]

Have to do it here, though. Yours is nicer than mine.

[B]

We can rent it. We'll talk about that after. But thank you guys so much for listening. I will see you next Thursday.