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What the happened in 2024? To me, looking back, it's a brain fog.
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B
Hectic.
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A
One time, I was texting two guys. I had a date with one. I was texting the wrong guy about the date that I had with the other one. I edited all the messages, but somehow got away with it.
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B
That was maybe the worst case of a drunk text I've ever seen. I went on one date, and I remember he was just, like, hammering me with questions, and I'm like, okay, did I get the job?
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A
Don't cancel me. But hello, everybody, and welcome back to your favorite podcast, Tall, Blonde. And I am back again with my roommate and my best friend, Amy frickin Brown.
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B
Hello. Thanks for having me back.
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A
You are so welcome. We had a bit of time apart, but we'll talk about that in a bit. But what I want this podcast to be is about what the. What the literal fuck happened in 2024. Because to me, looking back, it's a brain fog.
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B
Yeah.
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A
If you could describe it in one word, 2024, what would you describe it as?
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B
Hectic.
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A
Hectic.
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B
Yeah.
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A
Like, in a good way, in a.
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B
Bad way, in a good way. Looking back on it, but at the time, it just felt so. Hectic.
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A
Yes. I mean, I don't even remember where I was January 2024. Like, I was living in New York, but I don't even. I think I was doing a 9 to 5 in PR, but like, holy shit, life has changed so much. And what would you say is probably, like, one of the craziest things or biggest things that's happened to you in 2024?
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B
I went through a big breakup, so obviously that just changes your whole life. It was someone that I lived with, so I had to find a new place to live, have a new friend group, obviously deal with, like, the emotional stress of a breakup. So I feel like I came out so much better on the other side of it. But it is, like, such a huge thing to go through.
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A
Absolutely. Like, that's a whole shift in life. Like, you lived with him. Your friends were now friends with him. Your whole life was intertwined. You were now friends with probably his friends. And that's what you did on the weekends. That's what you did during the week. Like, that's who you communicated with. It was probably a big group chat, like having a breakup. And it was kind of during the end of 2024. No.
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B
Yeah.
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A
Yeah.
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B
I think we broke up in August, so. Yeah.
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A
So, I mean, you had a few months in which you kind of had to readjust before the new year, but it was still like you had to change your life around.
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B
Yeah. And let me tell you, the last four months after we broke up, best four months of my life. I mean, we had so much fun. I feel like you helped me so much to just be in the best head space through that breakup. We really made the most of it.
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A
I could not see the past four months going any better.
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B
Yeah.
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A
And honestly, I am so grateful you broke up with your boyfriend so much. I am so grateful. Like we wouldn't have done half the shit. I know we've said this before, but like we wouldn't have done half the shit. The crazy things which we'll get into in a bit because we have some story times which are in my mind and in great. Like the last 2024, to me, I feel like was just the last four months. I can't even think back to my life in New York other than sometimes with my best friends and milestones that they've went through or I've went through. But like, maybe it's because it's fresh in my memory and that's kind of stupid to say. But also it's like we did so much in four months that it's a crazy thing in my head.
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B
Yeah, I was the same. I was going through all of my memories from the year, like Snapchat and camera roll memories. And I just started from August. I'm like everything else we can forget about. Let's just start from here. The last four months were good enough to only remember that.
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A
Well, we to dinner or drinks the night before I left for to go home for the holidays. And we went through the four months and we were just giggling and laughing and there's so many stories that we have to tell you because they are absolute nonsense. Absolute craziness. But it was the best craziness because there was no judgment between us.
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B
No judgment.
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A
We are kooky, crazy stupid sometimes. And that's okay. Cause we are with each other and we'll look out. But at the same time, have a little fun. Stop putting so much pressure on your life. Other than, you know, our jobs and our works, which we're thriving in for 2025. We have so many goals. Yeah, but you can also have fun.
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B
Absolutely. I think we proved that.
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A
Yeah, 100%. And since we're talking about breakups, I mean, I've. I haven't really had a breakup in 2024, but I have a lot of situationship breakups. So none landed in the relationship department. And that's something which is okay. Yeah. And I'm dealing with that with my therapist. But I think what we need to go through is our 2024 dating wrapped, don't you think?
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B
I think so, yeah.
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A
So I have a few questions that we're going to go back and forth to, and it's kind of like the dating highs and lows. You can give me your story time if you want, but at the same time, like, we need to come out with what happened because we were only together for four months and there's a lot of other things. And I know you were in a relationship, so you can kind of give or take or tweak it how you want, but.
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B
Yeah.
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A
These are dating wraps. Okay. Okay, first question. Number of exes you've had within, like, coming from out of 2024. So, like, your life before this.
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B
I've only had one serious relationship, so I really lost. Yeah, that's really. Only one ex.
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A
Really?
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B
Yeah.
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A
That's so. So whenever you think of an your ex, it's always going to be him. It's never when you thought of an ex boyfriend before him. Do you think of situationships or ex flings?
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B
Kind of, but it doesn't compare.
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A
And how old are you or is that fine?
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B
I'm 26. Okay, so let's just.
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A
At 26. So don't feel bad if you don't have a boyfriend till 26 because you had a.
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B
Well, we started dating when I was 22.
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A
Oh, true.
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B
We were together for like a while. That's fucked. I know.
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A
That's crazy.
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B
Yeah. My best years. What a waste.
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A
What a freaking waste. No, we'll make up for it. We'll make up for lost time. We always do. Number of exes. I have to date real ex boyfriends? 3. And situationships a lot. But like, real real. Can I. Do you want to go with me? Yes. That was three.
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B
Okay. If we're counting situation checks.
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A
No, no, I'm not cutting situation checks because that comes later.
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B
Yeah.
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A
Boys kissed in 2024.
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B
Come on, we're really exposing ourselves here.
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A
That's fine. It's like kiss. Like, it's not like you went full throttle.
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B
Um, three. Three or four.
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A
Three or four?
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B
Yeah.
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A
So you're gonna make me look bad.
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B
Let's hear yours.
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A
I tallied this on TikTok because I had to do the trend and boys kiss. So think about it this way.
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B
Yeah.
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A
I've had about roughly one date a week because if I was in a situationship, we'd at least go out once. A week. I made that clear. I always have to have one date a week.
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B
So sometimes with, like, recurring dates with the same person. But, like.
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A
Okay, and I had eight situationships. Okay, so eight kisses at least. Add on. You know that little peck that you give at the end of the night of a date Sometimes. Give or take five. So now we're at eight plus five.
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B
Thirteen.
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A
Thirteen. And on nights out, you just kiss somebody.
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B
Oh, I can think of a few for you that I witnessed in the last.
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A
Really? Are you talking about the one at home?
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B
Screw. You shouldn't get into that.
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A
No, I do not want to get into that. Sometimes you regret it and sometimes you don't. But if you don't go full throttle, what's there to regret other than a little kiss?
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B
It never happened.
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A
A little kiss?
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B
A kiss is innocent.
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A
You don't stick your tongue down there. You're fine. Okay, but let's give or take like, 15.
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B
Oh, that's a big give or take.
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A
Really?
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B
Yeah. Oh, wait, 15 is the number. Give or take.
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A
Yeah.
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B
Okay.
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A
Yeah.
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B
I thought you were going to say the number and then you were like, give or take 15.
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A
No, like, but like, 15. It could be give or take from 15, but 15 is the number. No, I think it's around 15.
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B
That's totally fine. And, like, you were single all year? I was in a relationship, so I just came in hot for the last four months of the year. But you had all.
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A
I came in hot all year.
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B
Yeah.
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A
And I mean, there were some years that I had my off months, but, like, there's some years. There are some months that I have my off months, but I. At the same time, you got to try it before you buy it.
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B
So very true.
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A
Next is dates. How many dates did you go on if you had a relationship for a while? Did you get out there? I know you were coming in hot after.
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B
I was dating, like, way too frequently coming off of my breakup. Like, I think I just needed something to distract me and feel better. And I was. And I think it's a phase.
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A
Like, you have to go through that phase after a breakup.
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B
And you're definitely trying to, like, replicate that connection that you had with your ex with someone new. And let me tell you, it just. It didn't happen for me on those dates in the beginning. Like, I was going on, what, like one or two dates a week?
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A
Yeah.
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B
And they were great people, but I was just like, I don't feel that, like, spark that I'm excited about, which is fair.
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A
And, like, coming out of a relationship I don't think that you'll even find that spark for a while unless it's, like, your person. But, like, yeah, also you're going to. You need to, like, put yourself out there, keep, like, going on dates and things so you're not just suffering alone at home. I think you should keep putting yourself out there because you know that you weren't going back, so you wanted to see what was else was out there that you haven't seen the past four years.
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B
Yeah.
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A
So I think that that's so fair.
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B
Absolutely. I think it was a good way to move on from that time in my life. Was it definitely too soon to be going on dates? Yes. Like, mentally, I wasn't ready to even let someone new in, so I wasn't in a headspace to give someone new a chance. But it was a good distraction, like, selfishly for me to get through that breakup and get over that person at the time.
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A
And you weren't leading these people on. Like, you would tell them in things, but, like, you'd say that you got a relationship, but you weren't hiding that. So I think it's totally fair for you to go on a relationship and go on dates. But, like, holy crap, what were you gonna do? Like, suffer at home? Like, he was probably going out. He was probably doing these things. Like, why shouldn't you be able to do that?
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B
Yeah.
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A
So at the end of the day, you have to be worried about yourself and.
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B
And I think it's normal. And, like, practice your dating skills.
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A
Yeah.
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B
When you've been out of the game for a long time, you need to, like, refresh. Refresh.
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A
What is out there? What do people look like? What is the dating theme? What was it kind of like changed from dating now to dating when you were 22?
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B
Well, people are a lot more serious now. I think it's like, a lot more conversations about career and family and all this stuff.
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A
What'd you talk about before?
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B
Honestly, the last time I was, like, really dating, I was like, 21, 22. So, like, no one gives a shit what you do for your job. It's like, you'll figure that out later.
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A
Yeah.
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B
You know?
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A
Where do you go to school?
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B
Yeah.
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A
What have you. What. What is. What do your friends do on the weekends?
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B
Yeah. Like, you don't need to have your shit figured out when you're 21, 22. When you're 26, they're like, so, like, pitch me on you. Like, what do you have going for you?
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A
No, it's honestly like a business chat. Like, it's like, what's going on in your life? Like, what do you do for a living? And then you have to kind of like, say it as if you're like, the coolest person ever.
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B
Yeah. It's kind of like an interview. I went on one date, and I remember he was just, like, hammering me with questions, and I'm like, I should have, like, pre drank for this or something.
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A
Always pre drink.
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B
And I remember just being like, okay, did I get the job? Like, you asked me so many questions. It really felt like a job interview. Yeah. And he was a nice guy, but I was like, this is too much. Like, if this is what dating is like when you're my age.
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A
No, that's not how it should be.
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B
Like, I don't even want to go on a first date.
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A
So what did you say to him?
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B
I was, like, answering all his questions, and then I was just, like, kind of exhausted by the end.
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A
Yeah. And it's like, that's not fun.
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B
Yeah.
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A
That's not an enjoyable. Would that be your worst date of 2024?
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B
Probably.
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A
Really?
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B
Yeah. And I honestly. He turned it around at the end, probably as I had more drinks.
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A
How did he turn it around at the end?
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B
After three. Three martinis, I was like, he's not so bad.
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A
He's. You could think about it. You thought about it after that?
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B
I'm like, I can see the potential. But no, like, just hammering someone with too many questions. Like, personal questions, too.
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A
Like, what other than your job?
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B
He was like, so what's. Like, what was the biggest challenge?
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A
Oh, my God.
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B
Starting your business. And I'm like, I just met you. Like, I don't even know where you grew up. Like, let's save that for later.
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A
That's also a traumatizing question in an interview too. I'm so. Well, I hope this works out for me, because I do not like interviews. Don't ask me what the most challenging thing that I've had to deal with. My past job. Oh, well, it was having to post a video because I looked really bad, but it was gonna blow up. Like, I don't want to talk about that, you know?
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B
Yeah. It was just a lot. Do you. What was your worst date?
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A
My worst date? Crap. I don't even know. I had. Oh. It was my best and worst at the same time. Okay, so little story time. One time I was in New York and I went out to the bar, and I was at this place called Little Sisters in New York. And it's like, a very fun place. Cool. People go There very pretty people inside. The vibes are immaculate. We will be going when we go to New York. It was great. I meet this guy. He looks like 10 years older than me, which was what I was into at the time. And he's tall, dark, and handsome. He's like, asking me for my number. We had a little chat, but then he leaves. And I just had his number. Whatever. He texted me and we went on a date. And, like, he called me first. Like, I was debating not going. Cause I was like, I don't even know how much I remember you. Like, I was kind of drunk on the night out. So then I ended up. He ended up calling me that day and he's like, okay, I got us tickets to this game because we were supposed to go on a date that night. And I was like, oh, great. What's the New York basketball game? Yeah. So we went to the Knicks game. I was like, oh, great. Yes. Whatever. I don't know if he picked me up or. I got an Uber to meet him at the stadium. And we got there, he had front row seats to this game. He bought me a drink. And he was like, oh. Like, do you want a double? And if you know me, you know that always get a double.
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B
The answer is yes.
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A
The answer is yes. And I was like, make it a double. Like. And I didn't want to say that because I don't want to be like, the girl that, like, let's get drunk. But, like, I'm 24. Like, let's get drunk.
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B
Yeah.
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A
So I was like, okay. So then we go walk to our seats, and we're sitting in the front freaking row. This is the second time I've ever been to an NBA game. Sitting front row. There's so many cool people beside you. I was like, this is the best date ever. We talked the whole time. It was so fun, so funny, like, great thing. He was telling me that, like, he has an assistant and if we ended up together, that, like, his assistant could, like, book all my things for me. He said that he owned this, I think, like, private equity firm. He was telling me that, like, he could, like, book me into these, like, massage therapist things, whatever, spas. And I was like, oh, my, how could I not love this man? Like, I need to pursue this. This is, like, my dream. And then we go out and my friend keeps texting me, being like, what are you doing? Like, do you want to meet up after this date? Whatever? And I go, it's going really well. We're going to get something to eat. After, meet us there because then we're going to go out. We ate, she met us at the dinner. Then we go to the bar. Cause I was like, I don't really want this to be like an all night thing. So how about we just all go to the bar, he'll meet his friends, I'll meet mine, and like, we'll like, have a bit and then like, we'll go somewhere else.
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B
Yeah.
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A
Because I think that you need to leave someone on a mysterious note. You don't need to give everything right away.
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B
Yeah.
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A
So we go to this bar. He's the only guy there. He bought a table and bottles for me and my friend. Just us three.
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B
Love that.
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A
Love that. But it gets worse. Okay, So I go to the bathroom and I was like, oh, do you want to come to my friend? I think she said no. She obviously said no because she was there. I go to the washroom, I come back out, all I see is her hands, like lifting her skirt up and grinding on the man that I just went on a date with.
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B
Your friend.
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A
My friend.
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B
Oh, my God. I did not see that.
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A
I was like, I literally double taked after coming in the washroom and I'm like, sorry, I've like, I must be like, someone must have drugged me because this is not what I'm seeing. Like, this is not happening right now. This can't be happening. And I was like, this is such a good date. What's happening? So I was like, what?
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B
How long were you in the bathroom?
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A
Like, five minutes, 10 minutes. There's probably a line, so probably like 10, 15 minutes, right? Like a big busy bar. And I think it was like Fleur room or something. I forget something, whatever. And I came out and I was just like, absolutely not, Absolutely not. I went to both of them and I was like, nope, nope. Absolutely not. Not happening. I called my Uber, she ran. She's like, no, no, no, it's not what you think. I go, it's exactly what I think. This is exactly. You are grinding on the guy I went on a date with that you asked to hang out with. After that is. There's no other. This is black and white. You can try to. I go, I'm going home. She comes into the Uber with me, comes home with me, and it proceeds to try to apologize. I'm like, there's no coming back from this. I tell her to go home. I'm like, just go home. She goes home, and the relationship has never been the same ever since. I didn't cut her off of My life. But I cut her off of a very close friend.
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B
Yeah. She really showed her true colors and.
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A
It made me rethink a few things that happened.
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B
And I was just like, does she know this man?
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A
No.
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B
So she only knew of him through you?
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A
Absolutely.
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B
Wow. Yeah.
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A
That's like, you can't make that shit up.
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B
No, both of them. Like, both of them.
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A
And I think he, like, sent me a picture or something after and I was just like, off. And then he never responded.
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B
Can you imagine going on to date this man? Like, if he will do that on a first date when he should be at his best trying to win you over.
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A
Yeah.
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B
And he's doing that with your friend.
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A
I'm like, I came out a little too soon. You, like God himself told me, walk out now. You need to. Don't even re. Line your lips. You need to walk out right now. And that's what I saw.
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B
But thank God you should have. Thank God you should have just kept letting it happen and, like, hid and watched it and be like, how far is this going to go? If I was to be in the bathroom for 10?
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A
But like, I don't. It already went too far. I don't even need to watch.
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B
Yeah. Like, who cares?
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A
And it also sucked. Like, I was like, fuck, I just had a really good day and this is what's going to happen. So.
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B
But I think you reacted well in the sense that you saw it happening and you were like, okay, I've seen what I needed to see. I'm leaving.
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A
Instead of that, I was like, no, absolutely not. This is. No, you know, you know, have fun together. Yeah.
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B
Caught both of you right handed.
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A
So I could have been like, this isn't how I wanted this night to end, but you two should probably date now because I have left the chat.
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B
But you weren't fighting for it. You're like, oh, this is what it is. And now I'm gone. You guys can have each other.
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A
I probably drank more at home by myself after that. All right, well, back onto the dating round.
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B
So that was your worst date. That's so much worse than.
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A
I've never even told you that.
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B
No, I thought it was going to be something else. That's so much worse than me just getting asked a lot of questions. Like, now I feel like mine wasn't even bad.
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A
I wish mine was. That I got asked too many questions. But people probably walk away from dates with me being like, I got asked way too many questions.
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B
Yeah.
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A
Cause I have so many questions all the time.
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B
Yeah. And like, God forbid He takes a general interest in you.
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A
Yeah. Like, come on, what was wrong with you? Give me a break. Am I that bad? I know I scare people off sometimes, but come on, give me a second date. Where are we going next? Like, you're gonna give me a limo to the Hamptons? Okay, back to 2024 dating wrapped. Situationships. Is this traumatizing for you?
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B
A bit, yeah.
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A
Okay, we'll. We'll speed it up. Situationships. How many have you had?
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B
Like, I said, I was like. Even if when I liked a guy, I just, like, wasn't in a headspace to, like, actually give him a chance.
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A
But what do you classify as a situationship then?
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B
I would say it's someone that you're, like, seeing. Like, I can think of a situationship that you were in. I would define that as a situationship.
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A
What? The last one that I just texted, the last thing when we were at apparel. No, wait, the apparel day when I sent that text that. The situationship.
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B
Oh, there's no way you would text this man I'm thinking of. Yeah. Yeah. I can't believe you think of that right away.
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A
Beef man.
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B
Beef Beef man. Should we even give him no race?
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A
Like, no, don't. I couldn't even. I didn't even think of him, really.
- [20:57]
B
Okay, that's great for you. That's the only one that I would consider a situationship, but that's the only.
- [21:02]
A
One that I've had when we were living together.
- [21:04]
B
But for me, a situationship isn't just a man that you're texting that lives somewhere else. Like, that's. That's not serious enough. Like, you have to be physically hanging out and spending time together for it to be a situationship.
- [21:17]
A
So. So long distance people can't have situationships.
- [21:20]
B
I think a situationship is a relationship without a title. Like, you're acting like you're dating and everything without the title of being exclusive to each other. I mean, if you're in a long distance, long distance relationship, obviously that's different.
- [21:36]
A
But let's say you met online and you're texting a bunch and you're about to see each other, but you've been texting every single day for months and FaceTiming and everything and having, like, FaceTime dates. That's a situationship.
- [21:49]
B
No, I wouldn't consider that a situation.
- [21:52]
A
Really? Yeah, I would.
- [21:54]
B
Because if that guy, like, falls off and you don't talk anymore, you're not gonna be, like, devastated about it.
- [22:00]
A
Some people might.
- [22:01]
B
Well, they need to reevaluate.
- [22:03]
A
Okay.
- [22:04]
B
That's just my.
- [22:05]
A
So how many situations have you had?
- [22:08]
B
One. One since my ex.
- [22:11]
A
Wow.
- [22:12]
B
Yeah. Do you know that I've spent, like, actual time with, like, maybe got on a flight for.
- [22:20]
A
Oh, okay. Fair.
- [22:23]
B
Yeah.
- [22:23]
A
Always get on the flight, even if it's like you don't even like the person. Just go on the flight. You don't enjoy yourself.
- [22:30]
B
Go on the trip.
- [22:31]
A
Go on the freaking take the trip. This is our years, Kendall. This is our years to take the trip.
- [22:36]
B
Make the memory.
- [22:37]
A
Yeah.
- [22:37]
B
Do it for the.
- [22:38]
A
You have something to tell your kids.
- [22:40]
B
Yeah. And your best friend.
- [22:41]
A
Uhhuh. Situationships. I've been. I've had.
- [22:45]
B
Oh, I said eight in the.
- [22:47]
A
But that's because. Yes. And that's because I've been single the entire time.
- [22:51]
B
Yeah. And so when you think of a situationship, do you think, like, you're exclusive with that person while you're talking?
- [22:59]
A
I think that it's. You go on consistent dates, you're sleeping over at each other's houses, you. You're texting every single day, you're calling. That's a situationship.
- [23:08]
B
Okay, I. That's fair.
- [23:09]
A
Like, they might. If I was gone a weekend, they might have hooked up with somebody else, but you know what I mean? Like, it's not like I wouldn't have wanted that.
- [23:16]
B
Yeah.
- [23:17]
A
But I know that has happened in one of them.
- [23:19]
B
Yeah, true.
- [23:21]
A
Sucks. But you're not in the relationship yet. But it's like, if you were there, they would have chosen you.
- [23:27]
B
Okay.
- [23:27]
A
You know what I mean?
- [23:28]
B
I'll accept that. Yeah.
- [23:30]
A
Boys blocked.
- [23:32]
B
Oh, my God.
- [23:34]
A
You've walked a lot.
- [23:34]
B
This was a record breaking year for me for blocking.
- [23:37]
A
Really? Oh, yeah, yeah, true.
- [23:39]
B
Just.
- [23:40]
A
But not the girls. Just guys.
- [23:41]
B
Yeah. Just a lot of men that I thought I was friends with.
- [23:44]
A
How many?
- [23:46]
B
Let's see. Probably like 10 at least. And I thought these were, like, really good friends of mine. That's the thing about ending a relationship. Like, you get so close with the people in their life, and then everyone has a choice. When you guys break up, like, how are they gonna treat you? And then you see how they act and what they do, and you're like, we were never even friends.
- [24:08]
A
Yeah. And, well, you know, the whole saying, and I might not say it correctly, but in your worst times, you see who's there for you. Or, like, your hardest times, you see who pulls through for you. And I truly think that's what you went through this year. But maybe that was the world saying that you needed to hear that at that time. Like, you Needed to see. See them for who they were and how they would have helped you. Because God forbid you went through something worse in 2025 or something. Or something happened to you, an injury or whatever. Would they have even been there? You know, like, you reevaluated your life?
- [24:40]
B
I think they would have, but it was based on the fact that I was with this guy that they were friends with. But like, I knew all these people first, so I was just like, you know what if we're. If you can only be there for me and be a friend to me based on the fact that I'm dating this guy that you know, then you're not a friend. And I don't care to. Like, I'm not going to be sad about blocking you and I don't want you seeing what I'm doing or following my life at all. Like, you are just cut and that's the end of story.
- [25:06]
A
And like, it's not even worth it. No, like, it's truly not even. You shouldn't even have to worry about it. What you can't control. Don't even stress about y. Like, you're better for it.
- [25:19]
B
Yeah, I agree.
- [25:20]
A
So I think overall, the word that I would use for my dating wrapped in 2024 would be messy.
- [25:30]
B
Okay. That's so on brand. I love it.
- [25:32]
A
How about you for dating in 2024? How would you. Your dating life, which includes your ex, like, in that relationship?
- [25:42]
B
Exhausting.
- [25:43]
A
Exhausting. Or took a turn, you know?
- [25:45]
B
Yeah. Unpredictable.
- [25:47]
A
Unpredictable.
- [25:47]
B
Let's go with unpredictable.
- [25:50]
A
And I mean, not every date is bad.
- [25:54]
B
Yeah.
- [25:54]
A
So we've had some good dates. And I sadly was gonna say that, like, the date that I had at the front row of the Knicks game was one of my best. Only because I gotta go to a Knicks game in front row. That's so cool.
- [26:10]
B
If you had never met up with that friend, it probably would have been.
- [26:12]
A
The best, but I would have never known. I think the world was telling me, like, he's sketchy. Like, if an opportunity comes where he can get some, he will.
- [26:19]
B
Oh, it would have come out at another time. Like, those situations always present themselves one way or another. It might not have happened on the first date, but thank God it happened. You cut your losses right there.
- [26:31]
A
What would have happened other than like, God, like, what the hell? He probably would have had. He probably had a wife. He probably had children.
- [26:38]
B
He was a father.
- [26:40]
A
He was a father.
- [26:42]
B
Definitely.
- [26:42]
A
Why did we just say it? Father?
- [26:44]
B
Cuz it's just shocking. The audacity is shocking.
- [26:49]
A
When you Think back to, like, the unpredictability. Like, if you were in this spot, January, what, 9th. January 10th, 2024, what were you doing? What would you have thought anything of this?
- [27:04]
B
I never would have predicted that this would be my life, but I think I would be so excited and happy that this is how things played out for me.
- [27:13]
A
Mm.
- [27:14]
B
You know?
- [27:15]
A
Yeah, me too.
- [27:16]
B
Yeah.
- [27:17]
A
I've had some bumps along the road, but I'm always seeing the final results.
- [27:22]
B
Yeah.
- [27:23]
A
Which is good. So I know that, like, it's 2024, and there's a lot of.
- [27:29]
B
Wait, should I tell my best date story, or did you have one that you wanted?
- [27:33]
A
That was it. So tell yours.
- [27:34]
B
That was your best date.
- [27:35]
A
Like, I can't even think of a good one.
- [27:37]
B
Okay, go ahead. You just reminded me of this, because I wouldn't have even thought about it, but you reminded me about my probable, probably the best date that I was on this year just in terms of, like, having fun.
- [27:48]
A
You went to a Leafs game?
- [27:50]
B
No, I never. I've. I never went to a Leafs game ever.
- [27:52]
A
In your life?
- [27:53]
B
When did. When did I go to a Leafs game?
- [27:55]
A
I don't know. I just think that was the best date ever.
- [27:57]
B
You're like, just make something up the.
- [28:00]
A
Time you want on the leaves game.
- [28:01]
B
So I went on a date with this man. He was in town. We had been talking for a couple weeks. He was in town for a concert, and he. I met up with him.
- [28:12]
A
Yes.
- [28:13]
B
And he was like, let's do something from like. Or let's do something fun. He wasn't from around here, so he was like, take me somewhere good we can get oysters and, like, chill. So I'm like, okay, let's do it. So we go to this, like, speakeasy in Toronto, and we just have such a good time.
- [28:28]
A
We're like, our champagne and oysters.
- [28:30]
B
Yeah, Coffee. Oyster, champagne. So if you know, you know. It's, like, the best spot for a first date. It's private. It's quiet, dark, light, romantic.
- [28:39]
A
It's sexy.
- [28:40]
B
Yeah. But there's also, like, things going on. Like, you have a distraction if the.
- [28:44]
A
Date sucks to still to talk about on the date. Like, oh, did you see that? You know?
- [28:49]
B
So anyways, we're having a great time, having oysters, drinking, laughing. And then some woman comes over, and she's like, do you guys want to come in the back room? There's a burlesque show. And I'm like, I would love that.
- [29:00]
A
Like, let's do it.
- [29:01]
B
So she brings us in the back Room. I mind you. This is my first time meeting this man. Like, we're having a great time, but I don't know him personally. So we're sitting in this back room. There's probably, like three or four of us and my date. Three or four?
- [29:17]
A
Like, at a table?
- [29:18]
B
No, it's like you're sitting on a couch, and there's a stage and there's.
- [29:21]
A
Like, a curtain, and both couples are on the couch.
- [29:23]
B
Yeah, we're all just sitting on this couch together.
- [29:25]
A
Okay.
- [29:25]
B
And then this woman comes out, and she's wearing this, like, sexy, like, flapper outfit, and she starts doing a burlesque show. So it's like a private show for, like, two other couples and me and the guy I'm on a date with.
- [29:36]
A
Okay.
- [29:37]
B
So we're just, like, laughing and giggling. They give us champagne. I'm getting, like, kind of tipsy at this point.
- [29:42]
A
Also, the guy that you were on a date with was important?
- [29:44]
B
Yeah, he was, like, important figure. He was a musician. He was in town for a stadium tour. Yeah. So he's sitting there watching this, like, loving this musical.
- [29:54]
A
She didn't bring me on the date. Like, he didn't have a plus one, so it's fine.
- [29:57]
B
Weren't you out of town or something? There was a reason you didn't come to the concert with me.
- [30:01]
A
Oh, true. Okay, carry on. We'll talk about that later.
- [30:04]
B
Anyways, so him and I are, like, laughing, and this girl is doing her burlesque show. And then it comes to the final song, and she's like, I have a surprise for you guys. All of a sudden, out of nowhere, rips off her dress, and she's wearing nothing but nipple tassels.
- [30:19]
A
See, I thought she was having the nipple tassels the whole time.
- [30:22]
B
No. Oh, no. She left that for the Great.
- [30:25]
A
Okay.
- [30:26]
B
And so I. I loved it. I thought it was so funny. But the guy that I was with, like, didn't know where to look or really. He's like, this is great, but that is so cute. I don't, like, should I look weird?
- [30:37]
A
Like, that's a green flag.
- [30:38]
B
Yeah, it was a green flag. He was, like, checking on me. He's like, I don't know, like, how you feel about this? I'm like, don't worry. And I was like. We were drinking, so I was loving it. Many of those people. But can you imagine on a first date, like, the. The surprise that someone just rips off their dress? And I loved it. It was so funny, so unexpected.
- [30:59]
A
One time I went to an Event which was, like, this drink company partnered with this in New York. This. There's always crazy things that happen in New York. It was this drink company partnered with this clothing company, and there was a dancer, and she literally got into her tassels, and I was just like, why.
- [31:18]
B
Do they always just have tassels ready to wait?
- [31:20]
A
And, like, I support it. I think it's so cool and sexy and great. But was I expecting that coming into this event?
- [31:27]
B
How could you have seen that coming out? How could I.
- [31:29]
A
No. And it was a marvelous surprise, but I was like, does this even fit?
- [31:37]
B
Yeah.
- [31:37]
A
Is this, like, a shock value? Like, are we recording our reactions right now? Because I was just having a tea.
- [31:46]
B
They're just trying to catch you off guard.
- [31:47]
A
Yeah.
- [31:48]
B
Yeah.
- [31:48]
A
Okay. So that was your best date?
- [31:50]
B
That was my best date. Just because it was, like, funny. It makes for a good story. And it was a good. Like, we had a good time together.
- [31:56]
A
Yeah. No, no, no. I fully support that. I think that that would be a great date. I wish it was us together doing that.
- [32:02]
B
Yeah.
- [32:02]
A
But I support the man in that situation. Also, there was a story that I thought of of us going out one time, and I think we were just drinking at home.
- [32:15]
B
Okay.
- [32:16]
A
And we got invited. No, no. We went out by ourselves to get a drink downtown on King street. And we got a text from a friend, and he was like, come to my apartment. We'll have some drinks with my friends. You got this text. So we were like, okay. He lived, like, 20 minutes away. And now, you know.
- [32:38]
B
Now I know. It just clued in.
- [32:40]
A
He lives, like, 20 minutes away. So we were like, okay, fine, we'll come. We went. He had booze, though, which was great, because, like, we came from downtown, so we couldn't pick up any liquor, and we were drinking, and Amy suggests that we go to a strip club.
- [32:56]
B
Well, okay. I didn't come out and suggest it. I was like, what can we do around here? Are there any dive bars? And they were like, there's nothing except, like, a dingy strip club down the street. I'm like, perfect.
- [33:07]
A
So we went, let's go. We all went. And we were there. We were one of the only people there. There was maybe, give or take five other random people there. Yeah, they were phenomenal. But with the group we had, I mean, I went to go get money, and I was like, in my American brain getting ones. I had to take fives out.
- [33:29]
B
Yeah.
- [33:29]
A
I'd take $5 bills out. And how many fives do you want to take out? You Know what I mean?
- [33:34]
B
Yep.
- [33:35]
A
Like, there's only four. That makes 20. So I gave it to Amy and me and we snuck it in. So, yes, that was. That was our strip club experience on a random night.
- [33:47]
B
That was the first time I've ever been to a strip club, which is crazy. That was my experience.
- [33:51]
A
And her first time going to Miami soon. So you already know it won't be her last.
- [33:56]
B
And we're going to New York next week. I have a funny. Okay. This has been weighing on me since last night.
- [34:02]
A
Okay.
- [34:02]
B
Because we were on the phone with a man that I not really am talking to, but like, a man that we love. He's like a good guy who says.
- [34:11]
A
He watches all of our videos, but he can't even.
- [34:14]
B
Yeah. Cole's.
- [34:14]
A
Note it. So it's fine.
- [34:15]
B
So this has been weighing on me since last night because I was on phone with him. On the phone with a man that I talked to sometimes. Why.
- [34:26]
A
Your mannerisms are just so funny. Like, you're always just. You can be so professional when you need to.
- [34:31]
B
Okay, did I just flip it on or.
- [34:33]
A
You just flipped it on?
- [34:33]
B
Okay, okay, Sorry.
- [34:34]
A
Go ahead.
- [34:35]
B
Anyways, so I was on the phone with a man that I kind of speak to sometimes, and I had him on speakerphone because you guys love to, like, team up on me together.
- [34:44]
A
We banter back and forth.
- [34:46]
B
I am always the target. Yeah.
- [34:48]
A
Like, it's because I used to be the target. So now I like it that you're the target.
- [34:51]
B
Yeah. And I honestly kind of love when a man is like, has a relationship with your best friend where they can make fun of you together. I'm like, honestly.
- [34:58]
A
But it's through you. Like, I would never message this man. Joking on the side.
- [35:03]
B
Yeah.
- [35:03]
A
Okay, that's too far. There's a fine line.
- [35:05]
B
And it's like light humor. Like it's tongue in cheek. It's not like anything that would actually.
- [35:10]
A
Don't you dare message your friend's guy that she's talking to.
- [35:12]
B
No, that's total crossover. Read the room first. But anyway, so we told him we were going to New York and Miami next week. And you were. You came at me because I never check a bag when I travel.
- [35:24]
A
Oh, my God.
- [35:25]
B
I have never. I've traveled to so many places. I've never checked a bag before. You are checking a bag for a three day trip.
- [35:32]
A
It's a four day trip. It's actually Thursday, Friday, Saturday, Sunday.
- [35:35]
B
Thursday to Sunday. Okay, four days.
- [35:37]
A
Yes. So four days. Because we're going out that night on Thursday. And I'm gonna have to wear a new outfit to get on the plane on Sunday. So that's four days, four different pairs of shoes, four different pairs of pants, four different tops. And also that's not even four. Double it for the three days because we're going out that night. Double it. What if something spills or doesn't fit that day? Okay, we need three different heels, we need three different sneakers for the daytime, we need coats. It's winter season. I have my fur jackets. Yeah, I'm checking a bag.
- [36:03]
B
Honestly, you just made me rethink if I should be checking a bag too.
- [36:07]
A
And I want to bring my face wash, I want to bring my face cleanser, I want to bring my makeup, I want to bring my full foundation, I want to bring all of this. My perfume. You're going to want to put some things into my bag, I can promise you.
- [36:18]
B
She went to Europe, I went to Italy.
- [36:20]
A
Well, also that's like minimal clothing though. It's like bathing suits, cover ups.
- [36:26]
B
I mean, yes, but it's still like shoes, purses, all your toiletries. Like, I had a big, like personal item, like a big bag with all my like hair tools and everything. But I think for like a weekend trip, like a carry on, you can survive in New York for a weekend with a carry on. Like, I just don't want a jacket.
- [36:44]
A
I could if I had to, but I don't want to.
- [36:47]
B
Yeah, so. And you guys, I thought he was totally going to take my side on that. I was expecting this man to be like, oh, my God, that's. She checks a bag. That's crazy. And he was like, what is wrong with you? You only travel to carry on.
- [36:59]
A
Everybody in the world checks a bag. Maybe if you're going for like two day trip, don't check a bag. But like, I have numerous days. I also want to work out. So I'm going to bring my workout clothing, I'm going to bring my sneakers, I'm gonna wear actual, like workout shoes.
- [37:14]
B
I'm also bringing all that. But I just, I mean, I probably stress too much to like, try and be resourceful. And I'm like, okay, I can wear these shoes with this outfit and this outfit.
- [37:23]
A
Yeah.
- [37:23]
B
No, instead of bringing like every pair of shoes.
- [37:26]
A
And normally I have to pay the hundred dollars because it's overweight.
- [37:29]
B
Even for a weekend trip?
- [37:31]
A
Even for a weekend trip.
- [37:32]
B
I love that for you. Honestly, it's fine.
- [37:34]
A
It's so worth it. I get fire picks. Watch us on Instagram. Living our best life.
- [37:39]
B
And here's me thinking carry on is the way to go. And I'm going to be asking to borrow clothes probably, like, can I please wear that jacket? I didn't have room to bring the one I.
- [37:46]
A
Unfortunately, my shoes don't fit you, so.
- [37:48]
B
Yeah, well, that's fortunate for you.
- [37:50]
A
Fortunate for me.
- [37:51]
B
Fortunate for me.
- [37:52]
A
But, like, you'd be more good with them because you're the more mature ones. So I. They'd be better in your feet than.
- [37:58]
B
They are in mine, maybe.
- [38:00]
A
Let's talk about 2024 and our goals for 2025. Because I feel so pressured now to. In January, seeing everyone doing the 75 hard or trying their. You know, now they're journaling their whole life and they're drinking more water and they're working out and they're drinking their mocktails and they want to be fit as fuck this year and they want to reach their goals in five days. Like, I feel so much pressure. Like, I'm trying my best, but I still want to live my life. And I am that balanced lifestyle girl. And I feel like we can do it.
- [38:31]
B
Yeah.
- [38:31]
A
But, like, do you feel those pressures? I know you told me a little bit about it the other day.
- [38:36]
B
I think everyone feels that pressure in January because you have this idea in your head of how you want your life to look, look in the new year. And then January 1st comes around and you're like, oh, my God, I have to hold myself accountable to all these goals I've set. So if you don't start the year off strong, you kind of feel guilty about it. Like, if you're not working out, eating healthy, which is such a stupid thing to like. It's so stupid think that you have to do that as soon as January 1st rolls around.
- [39:03]
A
And I think what's working for us is, like, we had a conversation, we were like, okay. And in an ideal world, we're still single and we want to go out and we want to have fun. And like, we can have fun by ourselves. Of course, we do that all the time, every single day, living together. But we also wanna go out. That's. We like to do that and be social. So we put it down to one night a week we go out. We can have a night in and have wine and cook dinner for each other together and watch a show that. A series that we're watching on another night. We thought that that was the balance or like, one day. Cause, like, Saturday we're doing brunch and birthday later. But, like, we can have that. I feel like so many people just get so caught up. I'm like, okay, so you're gonna go hard. So hard. And be burnt out in the first week because you fasted. You cut out carbs, this, that, and the other thing. And now you're like going crazy and you're so angry at life. How about you just slowly implement it and try to be better every day?
- [39:57]
B
Yeah. Like, small changes that aren't going to drastically change anything in your life. It's not going to affect your mental health to be like, I'm cutting this thing out of my life cold turkey. But if you can slowly be like, okay, maybe instead of going out three times a week, I'm only gonna go out once or twice.
- [40:14]
A
Yes. And I mean, like, what are your goals?
- [40:19]
B
I think I definitely want to. So I wrote a list of goals and I'm like, okay, realistically, what's achievable? It was like in a notebook.
- [40:29]
A
Okay.
- [40:29]
B
Yeah. But I was like, what's actually achievable and something that would improve, improve my life if I made this change. I think working out and eating healthy, like, that's going to be on my goals list every single year. And I feel like we do that decently.
- [40:43]
A
Well, we definitely do.
- [40:45]
B
And, like, hold each other accountable.
- [40:46]
A
Definitely.
- [40:47]
B
You've been forcing me to go to the gym every day this week. And it's great.
- [40:50]
A
It is. And it's always better. Like, yes, it helps you that I'm forcing you to go because maybe you wouldn't have gone. But it's also helping me because it gives me motivation to do it. Whereas I would have half assed it if I was by myself.
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B
Yeah.
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A
I'm happy that we're doing together.
- [41:02]
B
Yeah. And then my second goal is, like, on a more personal level. But I think it's like just taking things less personally. Like, if someone does something that upsets me or I get treated, like, poorly by someone in my life, like, taking it less personally and not thinking that it's because of something I did or like internalizing it too much. Like just letting things go and just being like, you know what? Everyone's different. Like, this person has their own going on. They didn't do this, like, specifically to hurt me. It's just, you know, that's a good one.
- [41:35]
A
And I didn't even think of that.
- [41:36]
B
Yeah.
- [41:36]
A
But mine are similar. Like, obviously work. Like, we're going hard this year. There's gonna be things that come out that I don't even know. Okay.
- [41:43]
B
We don't even know. We don't Even know we can't even imagine.
- [41:45]
A
No. But I also want to be more fit. I want to be happy about my body and stuff because that's been like my biggest struggle is body. Like, I think hair and face I'm fine with now, but I think my body is what I really want to work out, work on. But I also think it's also a self battle of me where of like, I also just need to be comfortable in the journey and appreciate, like, where I am and where I could be. Yes, I want to work my body and I think that's the biggest thing. But I also think it's mentally too. Like, I just have to enjoy the process. Like, I'm not at a place where, like, I need to worry, which is great. But I'm not at a place that I feel comfortable and confident. And I think that so many girls that feel the same way. But I think that's just my insecurity and I need to enjoy the process and just like, yes, put it as a priority, but also enjoy my life and think, okay, these are the changes that I have to do. But I still wanna have fun on the weekends. So I'm gonna be drinking less calorie drinks, like vodka sodas, dirty martinis, less wine, sadly, and things like that. But I'm also gonna be able to not cut out that part of my life. And I also have to think going to the gym, I don't have to wear a sweater every day, I don't have to cover up because this is the jo is probably one of the best shapes that I'm gonna have in my life and I'm gonna look back on and wish that I was more comfortable.
- [42:56]
B
Yeah.
- [42:57]
A
So that's where I want to get. I mean, saying it out loud. I don't actually think it yet, but I want to get there.
- [43:02]
B
Yeah, Just keep saying it until you believe it.
- [43:04]
A
Yeah.
- [43:05]
B
I think just like, being less critical of yourself overall and like, appreciating like, so many people would kill to have your body and like, kill to be in the position that you're in and like.
- [43:14]
A
Or look how you do or live your life that you're living.
- [43:17]
B
Yeah. And you get so critical of yourself and like, you want yourself to live up to this certain standard or an idea you have in your head, things.
- [43:24]
A
You see online that you don't even.
- [43:25]
B
Realize how well you're actually doing.
- [43:27]
A
Yeah.
- [43:28]
B
You know, it's so true.
- [43:29]
A
And I agree. But I think we all have something to work on. But let's just work on, like, mentally Too.
- [43:33]
B
Yeah.
- [43:34]
A
Okay, let's go into something a little bit funner. There was this TikTok that was trending, and it's don't cancel me, but. So don't cancel me, but as in don't cancel me, but I have something to say that you might not agree with, but I stand true on.
- [43:49]
B
Okay, I'll start. Okay.
- [43:52]
A
Don't cancel me, but. Ankle socks for men should be never worn in 2025.
- [44:00]
B
It always kills me when you have these, like, specific responses to things like this. Like, there. There had to have been one moment that you were just staring at a guy's feet and you're like, no, never.
- [44:10]
A
There's been a few. And it came to me so much that I was like, it's. This is the time I say it. I stand my ground now.
- [44:18]
B
So no matter what shoe they're wearing, just no ankle socks.
- [44:21]
A
I just don't see the need. Even if you're wearing, like, the shoes I'm wearing. What are these called? Broken socks. Like, you could be wearing the ones that, like, go up just above your ankle.
- [44:29]
B
Okay, so you need, like, a little bit of.
- [44:30]
A
I need a little bit. I think that the ankle socks, like, I don't want to see your ankle. I just think it's an ick.
- [44:35]
B
What about men in flip flops?
- [44:38]
A
The thong flops?
- [44:39]
B
Yes.
- [44:39]
A
Absolutely not.
- [44:40]
B
Okay. Absolutely not.
- [44:43]
A
My brother was wearing not a cute flop. Okay. When we were in Florida over the holidays, I literally looked at him and I go, what in God's name are those? And he was like, they're dads. And I was like, dad doesn't even need those. We need to burn them because I don't want to see them again.
- [45:01]
B
It was like a thong.
- [45:02]
A
It was a thong. Thick flop.
- [45:05]
B
Wow. I'm okay with, like, a slide on a man. I think slide are fine.
- [45:09]
A
Ugh. Yeah, it's fine.
- [45:10]
B
But, yeah, I don't think you should ever. And. Oh, my gosh. This is something I see so often. A man in the winter getting in the elevator of your building wearing a thong flip flop. I don't want to see a man's toes ever, let alone in the winter.
- [45:26]
A
There are some things we just never need to see. And it is a man's toes.
- [45:29]
B
Yeah. Like, keep those to yourself.
- [45:31]
A
And I think, why, other than going into bed and out of the shower, why would you not have socks on? You know what I mean? Why would you be walking around your house? Men are a bit dirtier than females. Some, not all. Why would you be walking around your Crumbed kitchen with bare feet. Yeah, I have another one.
- [45:49]
B
Okay, take it away.
- [45:50]
A
Don't cancel me. But why the are you biking with a backpack on? Why? Why? Like, think close your eyes and think of the backpack. Whoosh, whoosh, whoosh. On your back. I don't need that. I don't want to see it. Imagine being in an Uber beside him.
- [46:08]
B
Oh, yeah, that's tough.
- [46:10]
A
That's tough.
- [46:11]
B
But it's like, not everything they do is for like, the optics of a woman. Like, sometimes they're like, you know what? I have to bring my laptop and I'm going somewhere that I need to bike. So they're probably not like, fuck, what if I'm in an Uber next to Sarah?
- [46:28]
A
They're probably like, no, I just see your point and that's why it's don't cancel me.
- [46:32]
B
But it's like, moments like that. We understand why you need to do that, but I don't.
- [46:37]
A
I hope that I don't see it.
- [46:39]
B
We will look away.
- [46:40]
A
Yeah. I won't pay attention to it.
- [46:42]
B
Yeah. Like, I'll pretend like, it's just.
- [46:44]
A
I'll pretend I didn't see you. Yeah, you don't cancel me.
- [46:48]
B
But men who vape, not allowed. Like, I don't. Men used to go to war. I don't want to see a man vaping.
- [46:57]
A
Also, let's just cut out vaping in 2024. I know it's so hard, but do you think we could do it? Cuz it's not cute. Or at least hide it.
- [47:07]
B
I only hit. We're exposing ourselves a lot right now.
- [47:10]
A
See, in New York, it's cool. And Toronto, it's kind of weird because it's like if you, you got to be a certain man, you got to be like a trendy, vibey guy. Unless it's like just a few photos of you and your friends on the weekend, then it's fine. Actually, it's fine. I applaud it. It's fine.
- [47:28]
B
You allow it?
- [47:29]
A
I allow it. And now I change my mind. I encourage it.
- [47:32]
B
Yeah, you encourage it?
- [47:33]
A
I encourage it. I want you to be free.
- [47:37]
B
Yeah. Express yourself.
- [47:38]
A
Express yourself. I want to see what you live. I love you. Get a glimpse into my life on my photo domes. Let's see yours.
- [47:43]
B
Okay.
- [47:44]
A
How about you?
- [47:45]
B
I get that.
- [47:45]
A
Why you think that's don't cancel me.
- [47:46]
B
But I, I honestly am. I'm 50. 50 on it. I do. There's one scenario that comes to mind where this group of men that I know went on a boys trip they all cheated on their girlfriends. The first thing they did when they got back was post a photo dump.
- [48:02]
A
No. How?
- [48:02]
B
It was the best weekend of their lives.
- [48:05]
A
See, they should go to jail for that.
- [48:07]
B
Jail time. Like, that deserves jail time.
- [48:10]
A
But it's the girls that didn't even know.
- [48:12]
B
Yeah.
- [48:13]
A
The most saddest cheating stories is the people that didn't even know what happened and still slept with their significant other after. Still slept in the same bed with them after. Like, that is so. That's the bottom of the barrel.
- [48:25]
B
Yeah. When my boyfriend cheated, I clocked it right away. Like, I swear I woke up.
- [48:30]
A
I don't know how you did it. You're.
- [48:32]
B
I was like, something's off.
- [48:33]
A
Freaky. You have, like, a feeling.
- [48:35]
B
Yeah, I just. It's intuition to me.
- [48:37]
A
It had to take months for me to find it out, which I feel.
- [48:41]
B
Like now you would be able to recognize the signs now.
- [48:44]
A
I'm so okay with checking your phone. Like, why. Why is your phone.
- [48:48]
B
Give it to me.
- [48:49]
A
Yeah. Why is it upside down and I can't see what's popping up? Like, what are your notifications I need to see?
- [48:55]
B
Yeah. You know, we had a conversation last week where I said, the next man I date, I want him to be like, doesn't even have the Tick Tock app on his phone. Like, doesn't go on social media a lot. Like, he's just kind of off the.
- [49:08]
A
Grid and, like, doesn't even listen to my podcasts.
- [49:10]
B
Yeah.
- [49:10]
A
Like, it's fine.
- [49:11]
B
Like, he supports you, but he's like, he's not a. A frequent social media.
- [49:16]
A
He'll tell me I look so good if I send him a picture. But, like, at the podcast with my guest or if I tell him that I'm having a podcast with a guest, but he just doesn't need to watch it because he trusts me and it's fine.
- [49:25]
B
Yeah.
- [49:27]
A
But then it doesn't really go both ways for me, but it's fine. Okay, Rapid fire questions for the last little bit. I have six questions you have. Try to answer them a little bit. Quick quack. Okay, Try to answer them.
- [49:42]
B
Is it, like, one answer or just whatever comes to mind?
- [49:44]
A
Whatever comes to mind. Because I forget I wrote this, like, a couple days ago.
- [49:48]
B
Okay.
- [49:49]
A
Have you ever ghosted someone and then run into them in public?
- [49:52]
B
Oh, yeah.
- [49:53]
A
Was it the guy that. When you were tying up your shoe or fixing your hair in the window of the thing.
- [49:59]
B
Oh, my God. I didn't really ghost him. I just. I didn't message him back, I guess.
- [50:04]
A
Yeah. So she ran into someone because she was fixing her hair and like, you know, like, on those buildings where you can kind of see yourself. He was sitting across.
- [50:12]
B
No, I was at a stoplight. I look in the building and I'm, like, fixing my hair in the window. And then all of a sudden, I look in the window and I see a man that I ghosted sitting inside looking at me, eye contact. And he's like, in a meeting or something. And I'm like, do I wave? Do I wave?
- [50:27]
A
Did you wave?
- [50:27]
B
No, I ran away.
- [50:28]
A
That's so embarrassing.
- [50:29]
B
So bad. So he's in the past now Forever now.
- [50:32]
A
He's ghosted.
- [50:33]
B
He's ghosting me now after that.
- [50:37]
A
What's in. What's something from 2024 that you hope gets canceled? Sayings, food trends, anything. Don't say ripped jeans.
- [50:45]
B
Oh, a trend from 2024 that I hope gets canceled? Low rise jeans really fudge you. I know.
- [50:53]
A
Literally fudge you. I wear them every weekend, and you've never told me you don't like them.
- [50:57]
B
I love how they look on you, but I'm just, like, for your shape, like, for anyone's shape. It just doesn't give you, like, a snatch. Like, if you have a great body, I get it.
- [51:07]
A
Definitely doesn't give you a snatch. But why have you been letting me go out every single weekend?
- [51:12]
B
I. I love how they look on you, and you made me want to get a pair, but it's just, like, because it's trendy and it, like, looks good, but I'm like, this doesn't make my legs look long. Like, this makes me look like my dad, which I love. My dad's a great person.
- [51:25]
A
We love Alan.
- [51:27]
B
I don't want us to, like, wear the same jeans, you know?
- [51:30]
A
Yes, yes. But I think they're so trendy and they can slap an outfit.
- [51:37]
B
I know. I'm impartial about that one, but I do hope it just moves on so I don't have to make my mind up about it.
- [51:43]
A
I'm canceling that answer. So pick something else, because I love them.
- [51:47]
B
What else am I canceling?
- [51:50]
A
Sayings, food trends.
- [51:55]
B
Sayings. Are there any, like, tick tock trends or sayings that you think that annoy you?
- [52:01]
A
No.
- [52:02]
B
Do you have any? Oh, I can't flip it back. No, I'm just gonna leave it at the low rise jeans. That's all I've got.
- [52:09]
A
What's One lesson from 2024 you're taking into 2025? To be hotter and a better version of yourself.
- [52:16]
B
I Think we said this when we were talking about our goals, but, like, just caring less about what people think and the opinions of other people and just being sure about yourself. I think that's something I'm really trying to do this year.
- [52:28]
A
And always self tanning and always, yeah, always fresh air.
- [52:36]
B
Yes. Those will help you never question yourself.
- [52:39]
A
And be a hotter version of look good, feel good. It's always look good, feel good. Like, if you look in the mirror and you look hot, you're gonna feel better too.
- [52:46]
B
Yeah.
- [52:46]
A
How to come back from a drunk text. She helps me with these every single time.
- [52:53]
B
I'm not much of a drunk texter. Like, I never really text people when I'm drunk. I'm having too much fun. I'm not worried about some man on my phone.
- [53:00]
A
I'm not worried. But I think they need to know that I'm having so much fun. So one time I was texting two guys. I had a situation with two people at the same time, and I texted. I had a date with one, and then the other one was, like, from far away. So I was texting the one that was far away about the date that I had with the other one saying, thank you so much. This was such a great date. Whatever. So I was texting the wrong guy, and I threw my phone to Amy. I'm like, help me, help me, help me. I edited all the messages, but somehow got away with it.
- [53:31]
B
I still, to this day, think about how you got away with that unscathed. That was maybe the worst case of a drunk text I've ever.
- [53:39]
A
Worst case ever. It was like 10 messages being like, thank you for dinner. You should have stayed longer. You left me.
- [53:46]
B
Had a great time.
- [53:47]
A
Had a great time. I'm so excited to see you again.
- [53:49]
B
Yeah. Texted it to the wrong man and then edited all the messages to be like, I miss you. I wish we talked more, blah, blah, blah. And then you could see that it said, edited, edited, edited. And maybe this man was just so oblivious he didn't notice.
- [54:04]
A
Yeah. Which clearly shows that he doesn't care that much. And neither of them I'm talking to today, so that's that. What job would a guy have that you would immediately say no to? You'd be like, no, no.
- [54:18]
B
If he was like, if he did, like, only fans or like, yeah, that'll do it. Okay, wait, I have another one. This is so bad. I shouldn't even say this. If he was like, a bartender or, like a server and, you know, full time and that's all he wants to do?
- [54:40]
A
Yeah. Where's the motivation? Are you trying to own the bar?
- [54:44]
B
I respect so much if you have a job and then you like bartend on the side or something to just like hustle and make.
- [54:51]
A
Absolutely.
- [54:52]
B
That's honestly really respectful. Hats off to you. If you like don't do anything all day and then you just like go drink at a bar and serve drinks all night. That's not a career.
- [55:03]
A
Yeah. Where's a woman and where's the next level? What do you, what's the goal that you're reaching towards?
- [55:09]
B
Yeah, that's an in between kind of thing. But yeah, if that's your career and we have met men that that's all they want.
- [55:16]
A
Yeah, but there are some people that do it on top of their jobs, which I respect because I'm like, okay, you want to make the extra money, great, but it's obviously not going to be a forever thing. You know what I mean? Yeah, but I respect that. That's like double teaming the job. You're getting money, incomes from two places. Yeah, but like I don't want you to be a bartender. Yeah, I wouldn't want you to be a bartender if I was dating you. No offense.
- [55:37]
B
Yeah, and then what if we like have a, like what if we start dating and then you have to like leave at night to go bartend?
- [55:43]
A
I'll be the worst.
- [55:45]
B
Yeah. Even like a guy that owns a club or like is in the service industry, like for me it just doesn't really like fit my lifestyle necessarily.
- [55:53]
A
I wanna, I wanna do those things with you. I want to work really hard during the day and then hang out with you after our work jobs. I don't want you to have to start work at 10pm 9pm okay, last but not least, what's the most chaotic thing you did after saying I'll just have one drink or I'm not drinking a lot tonight?
- [56:13]
B
Oh God, there's a lot.
- [56:17]
A
There's a lot. We tend to do this once a week.
- [56:22]
B
The most chaotic thing. Can you think of one that we've done together?
- [56:32]
A
Probably like last weekend we went to. What's the bar called? That's really cheap drinks.
- [56:41]
B
Two Cats.
- [56:42]
A
We went to Two Cats.
- [56:43]
B
First time ever going there with each other.
- [56:45]
A
Yeah. And we were just sucker in those cheap drinks back and then we went to a bar and we were drinking again and a guy comes up to us and we're like drunk at this point and literally scares me. Like he comes up so close to my face. He was like, hi, do you guys Want to put this drinks on our tab? And that's the best thing I could ever hear, you know? So I was like, absolutely. But then we like go say hi to him at his table. And like I'm sitting there, before we're leaving, Amy goes to the washroom. And I was like, oh, so what do you do for a living?
- [57:16]
B
No, wait, I have to preface this. I get a text when I'm in the washroom and Sarah says, come back right now. We're leaving. He just told me what he does for work.
- [57:25]
A
Yep. So I asked him what he does for work. As Amy is just going to the bathroom, trying to make small talk, he tells me that he does fraud for a living. I go, haha. Oh, you like, you, you help people like find and deal with when they have fraud, you know, what are those people called? Whatever.
- [57:43]
B
I don't know. You.
- [57:44]
A
You help people.
- [57:45]
B
Money laundering. Yeah.
- [57:46]
A
You help people when they are figuring out, you know, fraud's happening in their business or whatever. He goes, no, no, I do fraud for a living. I go, I start. I. That's the media. That's the second I texted Amy being like, oh, we need to leave, we need to leave. We need to leave. We need to freaking leave. We need to get out of here right now. Hurry up. I don't even know what you're doing. Let's go. So she says that and then I proceed to tell him as I'm leaving, you should really think about it. No girl will want to date you if they know you're doing fraud for a living. Thank you for the drinks. See ya.
- [58:18]
B
Yeah, and he wasn't. He didn't specify which kind of fraud.
- [58:21]
A
Like, I didn't want to know. I don't want to be entwined in this.
- [58:23]
B
Like, it could mean so many things. Are you like scamming old people out of money or do you just like not scan everything at a self checkout? Yeah, like fraud could look like a lot of different things. He was very open and honest about it.
- [58:35]
A
I mean, the way he was so passionate about it, I don't think he was just scanning things and not in his like below to blah, blah.
- [58:42]
B
It's a bigger.
- [58:42]
A
I think it's a bigger case of scenario.
- [58:45]
B
Yeah. Which honestly. He was honest.
- [58:48]
A
He was honest.
- [58:48]
B
Rare.
- [58:49]
A
Yes. But I wish she wasn't. Honestly.
- [58:52]
B
Yeah.
- [58:53]
A
All right, well, one tip that you can give everyone listening, if anyone is listening about 2025 going into 2025 going into this year, I think just be.
- [59:04]
B
Clear about what you want the year to look like for yourself. And then just be confident and do little things to put you in that direction. Like know what you want and don't hesitate. Just go after it. And don't second guess yourself.
- [59:18]
A
And follow your mood. I mean that one up. Follow your goals and not your mood. You said that to me the other day.
- [59:27]
B
Yep.
- [59:28]
A
Well, thank you guys so much for listening. I love you and I will see you next Thursday.