"I'm starting a new category." It's a familiar refrain often heard in the food and beverage industry, even if most times what's spoken isn't necessarily true. But in the rare cases in which an entrepreneur is indeed breaking new ground, the challenges are plentiful.

GT Dave, the founder of GT's Living Foods and a pioneer in packaged kombucha, has experienced firsthand the difficulties of introducing an entirely new category to the market after launching his brandin 1995. For years, GT's was the singular bottled kombucha brand and paved the way for what is now a thriving category that includes dozens of players.

Reflecting on the first few years of his business in an interview included in this episode, Dave said that entrepreneurs should carefully consider consumer needs before launching a product that sits outside the lines of traditional food and beverage categories.

"To me, looking back, the questions that need to be answered to define and determine if you're creating a new category [are], 'What is it that the consumer needs and wants?' and 'Why are they not getting it?' and 'How am I, the company, the brand owner, the pioneer… going to satisfy that need?' he said."

Dave also discussed why being an "artistic sponge" supported GT's development,spoke about his approach to working with competitors and emphasized the importance of authenticity in and around the bottle.

Also in this episode: an interview with Karen Nation, the founder/CEO of no-bake protein bar mix brand Creation Nation, which was victorious in NOSH's Live Pitch Slam 5. Nation spoke about the genesis of her early-stage brand and experience in the competition.

Show notes:

2:20: Pitch Slam Food For Thought -- The hosts humbly asked listeners to please rate and review Taste Radio Insider on iTunes. They also reflected on NOSH Live Winter 2018's Pitch Slam competition, which was held on Nov. 30 in Santa Monica, discussed Mike's evil dentist, and thanked the founders of Nectar CBD Drink and Enduraphin for visiting BevNET HQ earlier in the week.

16:27: Interview: GT Dave, Founder/CEO, GT's Living Foods -- Dave sat down with BevNET's John Craven and Mike Schneider for an interview recorded at the headquarters of GT's Living Foods in Vernon, Calif. As part of their conversation, Dave spoke about the early days of introducing kombucha to consumers and the milestones that helped chart his entrepreneurial journey. He also opined on the pitfalls of criticizing your competition and discussed the company's innovation strategy, which includes a new line of CBD drinks.

41:23: Interview: Karen Nation, Founder/CEO, Creation Nation -- About an hour northwest of Vernon, Calif., you'll find Calabasas, a quiet celebrity haven that's also home to Creation Nation, an upstart brand of protein bar and bite mixes. Creation Nation was the winner of NOSH Live's Pitch Slam 5, having bested five other emerging and better-for-you packaged food brands in the competition, Shortly after her big win, Nation sat down with BevNET CMO Mike Schneider and spoke about what she's learned about her consumers, her go-to-market strategy, surprises about being a CPG entrepreneur, and preparation for the Pitch Slam.

Brands in this episode: GT's Kombucha, Creation Nation, Bumble & Butter, Spudsy, Tiny Giants, Kotatsu (formerly Punk Rawk Labs), Olyra, Nectar CBD Drink, Enduraphin, Odwalla