#4334 Don’t Tell MALM The Babysitter’s Dead

Summary

Podcast Summary: TBTL Episode #4334 - “Don’t Tell MALM The Babysitter’s Dead”

Introduction and Light Banter (00:00 - 02:48)

The episode kicks off with Luke Burbank and Andrew Walsh engaging in their trademark playful banter, setting a relaxed and humorous tone. They joke about mistaking a spoon for a knife, showcasing their camaraderie and ease with each other. At [00:19], Luke emphasizes goodwill by stating, “Please understand that nothing personal is intended here against anybody,” clarifying that their forthcoming discussions aren't meant to offend any artists.

Coping with Current Events (02:48 - 05:00)

Transitioning from humor, Luke introduces the episode by reflecting on the overwhelming political climate. He shares his personal approach to managing anxiety by embarking on challenging projects, saying, “Let's take on projects that we know we can't do and do them. Which is making me feel actually a little better about things” ([03:18]). Andrew relates by discussing his struggles with reintegrating into mainstream news consumption, expressing concerns over the negative impact of constant political speculation.

Media Consumption Challenges (05:00 - 10:00)

Luke and Andrew delve into the difficulties of staying informed without becoming overwhelmed by depressing news. Luke shares his strategy of selectively reading news, stating, “I just skip past like the first five stories on the left because they're all Trump related and they all make me feel sad” ([07:33]). Andrew echoes these sentiments, discussing how push notifications from major news outlets trigger anxiety: “every time they talk about Stephen Miller, they were really just talking about the gangster of love” ([07:32]).

Personal Projects for Betterment (10:00 - 20:00)

Seeking to divert their focus from distressing news, both hosts discuss personal projects aimed at self-improvement and distraction. Luke reveals his commitment to listening to "Infinite Jest," a notoriously complex audiobook, and his decision to learn piano using a child’s keyboard, mentioning, “I want to learn to play piano” ([20:07]). Andrew shares his creative endeavor of making GIFs from Pink Panther cartoons, describing how he integrates them into his home environment: “I've been watching the algorithm being YouTube” ([30:04]).

Creative Coping Mechanisms (20:00 - 35:00)

Luke elaborates on how engaging in new hobbies, like listening to challenging audiobooks and learning an instrument, helps him manage anxiety and feel a sense of accomplishment. He muses, “If I can learn to play Let It Be on the piano, I’ll feel like a different person” ([20:07]). Similarly, Andrew discusses his experiments with visual spackle through old cartoons, finding satisfaction in creating and sharing them: “I've been watching the algorithm being YouTube” ([30:04]).

Promoting Friends and Donors (35:00 - 40:00)

The hosts take a moment to promote their friend Celine's upcoming show, “Snax the Bunny,” at Rabbit Box Theater on November 23rd. Andrew enthusiastically encourages listeners to support Celine, highlighting her contributions to their community: “Stargazer, they're performing their very first show... support Lenie because she is amazing” ([37:12]). Luke also extends gratitude to their donors, mentioning names and locations to personalize the appreciation: “Sarah Beth Rebholtz of Middleton, Wisconsin... Thank you, Douglas Prindle in Bothell, Washington” ([37:41]).

NBA Highlights and Player Interactions (40:00 - 50:00)

The conversation shifts to sports, particularly the NBA. Luke and Andrew discuss Giannis Antetokounmpo’s playful interaction with Jalen Brown during a game, where Giannis shrugs off a minor foul with childlike laughter: “Giannis is a child” ([42:58]). They also highlight Cameron Bynum’s entertaining dance after intercepting a football, despite his position not typically being involved in scoring plays: “He had to keep this in his back pocket... He’s a Viking, too” ([46:04]).

Additionally, they recount a humorous incident involving a New Orleans Pelicans fan, Will, who misunderstands the instructions for a fan contest, persistently shooting free throws instead of bouncing the basketball as required: “At no time does Will adjust what he is doing. He just continues to shoot these free throws” ([51:03]).

Listener Feedback on Frankie Valli (50:00 - 65:00)

Listener voicemails introduce a segment discussing Frankie Valli’s live performances. Jill from Lakewood, Ohio, shares her experience attending a Frankie Valli concert, noting the discrepancies between his on-stage appearance and vocal performance: “Frankie Valli was lip syncing” ([58:15]). The hosts debate the authenticity and emotional impact of aging performers maintaining their careers, pondering whether Frankie’s performances are genuine expressions of enduring passion or logistical necessities to support his team: “He's doing it because he wants to keep everybody employed” ([65:36]).

Reflections on Halftime Shows (65:00 - End)

Luke and Andrew reflect on the evolution of Super Bowl halftime shows, referencing Jamie Loftus’s podcast “Your 16th Minute of Fame,” which explores the transformation from simple performances to elaborate productions. They recount the peculiar instance of Elvis Presto, a choreographer stepping into an Elvis impersonation role due to last-minute changes: “It's the wildest thing that you just had this guy, this random dude now pretending to be this Elvis magician at halftime” ([69:15]).

The discussion highlights the blend of nostalgia and modern entertainment dynamics, questioning the authenticity and artistic integrity of contemporary halftime performances: “He approached the whole Elvis Presto halftime show in three days” ([70:31]).

Conclusion and Wrap-Up (71:00 - End)

As the episode draws to a close, the hosts engage in their customary friendly jabs and playful exchanges, reinforcing the show’s lighthearted nature. They wrap up by wishing listeners a happy Veterans Day and teasing content for the next day's episode: “Please do hang out with us for that. In the meantime, have a great Monday, happy Veterans Day” ([71:40]).

Notable Quotes:

• Luke Burbank ([03:18]): “Let's take on projects that we know we can't do and do them. Which is making me feel actually a little better about things.”

• Andrew Walsh ([05:00]): “I was listening to like a LeBatard adjacent podcast hosted by the Stu Gotts.”

• Luke Burbank ([07:33]): “I just skip past like the first five stories on the left because they're all Trump related and they all make me feel sad.”

• Luke Burbank ([20:07]): “I want to learn to play piano.”

• Andrew Walsh ([30:04]): “I've been watching the algorithm being YouTube.”

• Andrew Walsh ([37:12]): “Stargazer, they're performing their very first show... support Lenie because she is amazing.”

• Luke Burbank ([42:58]): “Giannis is a child.”

• Andrew Walsh ([58:15]): “He looked good for his age.”

Conclusion

Episode #4334 of TBTL: Too Beautiful To Live masterfully balances lighthearted banter with deeper reflections on coping mechanisms during turbulent times. Through discussing personal projects, engaging in sports commentary, and interacting with listener feedback, Luke and Andrew create an engaging narrative that offers both entertainment and relatable insights for their audience.

Transcript

[Luke Burbank]

You call that a knife?

[Andrew Walsh]

This is a knife. That's not a knife. That's a spoon.

[Luke Burbank]

All right, all right. You in? I see you've played Knifey Spoony before.

[Andrew Walsh]

Tbtl.

[Luke Burbank]

Please understand that nothing personal is intended here against anybody. I don't hate these artists. I'm not trying to say that God hates them, and I'm certainly not trying to get you to hate them. Ah, it's funny. It's not like a regular HAHA sitcom. There's no laugh track, there's no audience. Very stylized. It's about a bunch of guys in Seattle. Targets.

[Andrew Walsh]

Targets.

[Jill]

Don't bully me, all right?

[Luke Burbank]

I can't take it. I was cyber bullied within an inch.

[Jill]

Of my life last night.

[Luke Burbank]

Watch out for that first step.

[Andrew Walsh]

It's entirely.

[Luke Burbank]

Well, all right. Hello, good morning and welcome, everyone, to a Monday edition of tbtl, the show that just might be too beautiful to live. Isn't that for techno geeks with spreadsheets? Coming to you from the Madrona Hill studio, perched high above the mighty Columbia, I am your host, Luke Burbank. No, you don't. Oprah coming to you here on this wet Veterans Day.

[Andrew Walsh]

Didn't know you like to get wet, though.

[Luke Burbank]

That's right, it is a holiday. But here we are, your friendly local podcasters, bringing you episode 4334 in a collector series.

[Andrew Walsh]

Let the fun begin.

[Luke Burbank]

Like so many of us who listen to the show and live in the world and have. What do we call it? Oh, brain cells. I am still grappling with the new political reality that's looming for all of us. And I have I decided something this weekend. I decided on a project of personal betterment. Let's take on projects that we know we can't do and do them. Which is making me feel actually a little better about things. Or maybe a little bit. What's the word? Less terror. Maybe I'm feeling less terror because of this little plan. You know me. I love me a good project that I take on that I can't do and do them. And I'll tell you about those projects also. Again, any levity, anything funny that happens in the world. How funny is that? That's pretty funny. Is welcome news right now. And there were two funny things that emerged from, of all places, the National Basketball Association. 360 spins and slam dunk pointers. So we will talk about that today. And we're gonna talk to this guy, longest running cobra of the show. Oh, my God, he unmuted. Maybe best known for his depictions of the tall ships. He's Andrew Walsh. He's joining me right now. Good morning.

[Andrew Walsh]

Good morning, Luke. I'm sorry, I was writing a business email during the intro, so I don't really have anything to add to what you just said. What are you. Wait, what are you working on? You said you're working. Yeah, some things. You're becoming a new Luke.

[Luke Burbank]

Always. You know, I'm always becoming a new Luke. I. I'm in the, what the last few weeks of my 75 hard ish. Ish thing that I've been doing. And of course, emphasis on the ISH 75.

[Andrew Walsh]

You know, you made the 75 ISH announcement when I was gone. I assumed this whole time that 75 is the number of days that you're issuing.

[Luke Burbank]

I have to do it until I'm.

[Andrew Walsh]

75 or you have to do it until you're 75. That was my follow up question.

[Luke Burbank]

Which, yeah, 75 days or until you're 75 pounds. No danger of that, my friend. Oddly enough, because I kind of. What I Basically there are two things that doing the 75 hard ish. I have totally abandoned the second. So you're supposed to work out twice a day. I've totally abandoned the second workout. I, in fact, I never embraced the second workout. That just never happened for me. So what it's really meant is I've been getting up early and I've been running further than I normally would be running like I did 10 miles with Becca on Saturday because I'm going to do the Seattle half marathon. So I don't know, I don't think I've seen any great like body transformation necessarily. But I will say that the getting up early thing, I'm going to try to stick with that because I've. That's been. That's really helped me with some anxiety stuff and, or just feeling overwhelmed stuff. And maybe I don't know if I can keep the jogging up at the kind of elevated levels, but I might try that. All that is to say that thing is winding down and it's time for me to wind up a new project like you. Andrew, before we started recording today, you mentioned that you're still not fully ready to reintegrate with like, say like NPR in the mornings, you know, Morning Edition. You said you were listening to Lebatard or something.

[Andrew Walsh]

I was listening to, yeah. Not even Lebatard. I was listening to like a LeBatard adjacent podcast hosted by the Stu Gotts. Like that's where I am. How are you all doing?

[Luke Burbank]

Well and I'm kind of in the same place. I tried to this morning. I tried to reintegrate Morning Edition into my life. And immediately the first story was, will Trump actually. Will he actually basically destroy Obamacare as he has promised to do? And I was like, who says exactly the kind of info that I'm trying to not, like, fully immerse myself in? Again, I want to know enough that I can be of service and I can stand up for particularly marginalized folks. Like, I'm not. I don't. I don't think it's reasonable for me to completely check out of the news, but I also don't feel like I need to listen to six minutes about how basically speculation on whether or not Trump will end the aca.

[Andrew Walsh]

And I saw the one headline was about Stephen Miller's back in the headlines of. Because of course he would be. And I saw that. Can I just say one thing on.

[Luke Burbank]

This topic from the band?

[Andrew Walsh]

Wait, do I have the wrong name? No. Stephen Miller is his deputy.

[Luke Burbank]

Well, some people call him the Space Cowboy. Some people call him the gangster.

[Andrew Walsh]

Who am I thinking of? Who's the awful border guy?

[Luke Burbank]

His name is Stephen Miller.

[Andrew Walsh]

I was making a joke.

[Luke Burbank]

Steve Miller, band.

[Andrew Walsh]

No, I understand. Okay. Like, no, it's okay that you're making jokes. I just get names wrong so often that I thought you were dogging me for getting the name wrong. And then I got really in my head about that. I was like, what?

[Luke Burbank]

I was just. I guess I was proposing a universe in which every time they're talking about Stephen Miller, the truly horrendous, xenophobic, awful person, they were really just talking about the gangster of love.

[Andrew Walsh]

Yeah.

[Luke Burbank]

And that was, Steve Miller's gonna play a really outsized role in this administration.

[Andrew Walsh]

It would provide different issues, but better issues.

[Luke Burbank]

I would so take Steve Miller over Stephen Miller every day of the week.

[Andrew Walsh]

I.

[Luke Burbank]

Could. Abra.

[Andrew Walsh]

I did. Without getting you totally off of your original point, I did just want to say, though, like, I either need to go in and recheck, double check, triple check my settings on the New York Times, because I am now in that mode where when I see I have a New York Times, like, push notification on my phone, like a. Not an email, but like, you know, a news update. I swear I have it set just to breaking news. And now we're in a mode now where when I just see that little Times logo at the top of my phone, my heart starts beating heavily, you know, and that's something that I'm trying to avoid. The feeling like every headline is going to destroy me. But then sometimes I open it and it's like, you're going to, it's from like the New York Times. This literally happened this weekend. It's like from the New York Times food section. It's like, you're going to love this cranberry salad. And I'm like, you can't do that to me right now.

[Luke Burbank]

That's not breaking news.

[Andrew Walsh]

Yes.

[Luke Burbank]

And also like, that's not push notification.

[Andrew Walsh]

No. And not in the wake, not during. There's got to be at least a seven day waiting period after the election for you just to be giving me push notifications about cranberries when you know what it does to my heart.

[Luke Burbank]

Well, what I've found is that I'm actually more comfortable reading the New York Times and the Washington Post and the Seattle Times again. Because what I do is I just skip past like the first five stories on the left because they're all Trump related and they all make me feel sad. What I can't do, and this is why I'm having a really difficult time with public radio right now, is I can't control what NPR has decided to put on Morning Edition. And so, and I just know it's going to be speculation on the darkest timeline, you know, the darkest version of what could be happening in the next four years. So I've, I found that, like, you know, I've re, I've reengaged with print journalism more quickly than I've reengaged with radio, with particularly public radio journalism. Because I just, like I said literally this morning I was sort of like, well, am I gonna put on music? Because I've been doing that recently. And I thought, well, you know, let me just see what Morning Edition is doing. And literally, boom, first story is, you know, is Trump gonna take away everyone's healthcare? And I was just like, this is starting at a very, this is rough. This is not like easing me back into it. This is the exact thing I'm trying to avoid. Okay. All that is to say, I was, over the weekend, I was doing some work here on the, on the house, and I was like, you know what, what do I do with my ears if I'm not going to put on OPB or if I'm not going to put on. Although the weekend programming is probably a little safe, a little safer than the daily programming, the weekly programming. But I was like, what am I going to listen to for the next four years? Like, what am I. Because it's all going to be. And again, if they're doing their jobs as journalists. They probably have to. They are probably like the daily that which I fell so in love with in the last year. It was my morning, you know, kind of regular morning listening. Probably 60% of the daily episodes for the next four years will be about something Donald Trump related. And I do think that's probably their job to document what's going on and to analyze it. So it's not even like I'm mad at them for that, but I just don't think I can live in that world.

[Andrew Walsh]

So I don't know where exactly you're going with this, but I just want you to know where I am right now. I assume you're building up for one of the best promotions for after these messages that I've ever heard. So as you're like kind of thinking what can I turn to during these dark times to bring a smile to my face and some relatable content. I assume you're going to say everybody should listen after these messages, but you go ahead and finish what you're going to say.

[Luke Burbank]

That's actually link in bio. That is my bio on Bluesky is everyone should listen to. Everyone should listen to after these messages. I, you know, I'm kind of, I'm, I'm, I'm ping ponging all over here. But I will say this. I don't have a TBTL to listen to if that makes sense because we make tbtl. Like to the degree that this show is not for the next four years just going to be a doom scroll in that it's going to talk about funny things that happen. Basketball, funny side up in the. In. In the. To the degree that that's what this show is going to be. You and I think it was, I don't know if it was your description or John's on Friday, but it was like if you're wondering if the guys are back back to their normal content, it's Andrew's, you know, got garbage problems or whatever. Like to the degree that we. That was like an Instagram post basically just saying we're going back to the meaningless stuff that we've always talked about to the degree that that's kind of what this show does for people. I'm. I just would like to say you're welcome.

[Andrew Walsh]

Your Stern that. Because I feel like my LeBatard covers that. Your Stern doesn't cover that.

[Luke Burbank]

Well, I need to read that one. I, I sort of got off the merry go round with not intentionally but I just lost the thread. I need to go Back and, and check back in with it. That's also very irregular. They do on a good week, three shows.

[Andrew Walsh]

Yeah.

[Luke Burbank]

And they have a lot of weeks off. So it's not like I don't have something that is an hour a day that I can listen to that is going to be reliably not, not depressing for me. So again, you're welcome, America, that we're doing this now. Could someone go start a different version of this that I can listen to is what I'd like to say. And it's called after these messages.

[Andrew Walsh]

That's right.

[Luke Burbank]

But anyway, I was just this, this weekend I was like, what am I going to do for the next four years? Because I am a person who listens to a ton of spoken word content and I thought, well, duh, why don't I use the next four years to actually either read or in a pinch, listen to a number of books that I've been always, have always meant to engage with and never have felt like I had the time or maybe the interest. And so what did I do on Saturday, Andrew? I downloaded Infinite Jest, the David Foster Wallace 64 hour audiobook on Audible, and I am about four hours into it. I have no idea what's going on.

[Andrew Walsh]

How do they handle footnotes? Isn't that one of the heavily, heavily footnoted books? Isn't that the whole bit of that book that it's like tons of footnotes? Do they go to the footnotes right away in audio form?

[Luke Burbank]

No, the footnotes are at the back of the book, which is addressed by Dave Eggers, who writes the forward, by the way.

[Andrew Walsh]

But wait, wait, you're listening though, right?

[Luke Burbank]

I'm listening.

[Andrew Walsh]

So that's what I'm trying to figure out. So do they just save all the footnotes for the end of the recording.

[Luke Burbank]

Or like in the book as well? The footnotes are at the end.

[Andrew Walsh]

Well, that's how footnotes work.

[Luke Burbank]

But like, well, sometimes they're on the page.

[Andrew Walsh]

Yeah, that's true.

[Luke Burbank]

They can be at the bottom of the page.

[Andrew Walsh]

But the point is, the reading experience usually is you're somewhere in the book, you're reading on page 70, whatever, and then there's a footnote. You're probably in that moment going to flip to the back of the book or the bottom of the page and then read the footnote there. So that's my question. Are they integrating the footnotes into the reading experience?

[Luke Burbank]

No, that could be part of why I have no idea what's going on. I will tell you this. I Will tell you this. Dave Eggers Forward to Infinite. I always want to call Infinite Guest, which was the name of the first APM network that we were part of. The Dave Eggers Forward to Infinite jest is longer than some books I've read and it's really good. I almost think it should be released as its own chapbook or something.

[Andrew Walsh]

Oh, that's interesting.

[Luke Burbank]

It's well written and it was. Yeah, it was just a very, very well written kind of introduction to what you're about to experience from the late, great David Foster Wallace. But I'm so here's, here's what I'm thinking. I am going to try and there have been again, four hours into it, there are parts of it that are a little. There's one that this is getting hyper specific. You know, it's jumping between different people. You know, not every chapter, it seems like, at least early on. It's basically the story of this kid who's a tennis prodigy but has some. Has a pretty complicated home life and is. It's unclear to me right now if he is in a delusion or not, if the other people are crazy or if he's crazy. But it bounces between all these different people. I have a feeling all these threads hopefully will sort of weave themselves together by the end of this book. There is one chapter though that is written, I have to assume it's supposed to be written from the perspective of someone who is African American. And it is heavily, sort of patois, if you will. It's heavily written in David Foster Wallace's, I guess, best guess at how maybe African American people speak about each other and to each other. And you've got the guy who's been reading the book on tape. Sounds like a white guy to me. He's doing the characters and all of a sudden he's in like deep, like you might just say black voice.

[Andrew Walsh]

Yeah.

[Luke Burbank]

I was like, oh no, don't do it to me.

[Andrew Walsh]

I don't listen to a lot of books on tape. But about two summers ago, when I was doing a lot of yard work here, maybe when we had first moved in, I was listening to a rather lengthy young adult novel. It was like, it's by be honest.

[Luke Burbank]

Adult novel.

[Andrew Walsh]

I'm sorry, who's very racist. It was written by somebody named Robert Young and he is one of the most preeminent adult novelists out there. It was spicy. No, I'm kind of stalling because it's a beloved author that I think who wrote Cavalier and Clay.

[Luke Burbank]

Oh, Cavalier and Clay.

[Andrew Walsh]

Is. Oh, my God.

[Luke Burbank]

I read Cavalier and Clay.

[Andrew Walsh]

How did I.

[Luke Burbank]

It's not Jonathan Franzen.

[Andrew Walsh]

Fran. Is it that Franzen?

[Luke Burbank]

Is that Franzen?

[Andrew Walsh]

Or it's.

[Luke Burbank]

It's either a sat. It's either a Saffron Foer or a Franzen.

[Andrew Walsh]

I feel Cha Bon. Chabon. Chabon.

[Luke Burbank]

Chabon. I forgot about Chabon.

[Andrew Walsh]

Michael Chabon, I believe, wrote a book for young adults about baseball, but it's also a. It's also like kind of a fantasy book. It sort of takes place. I believe there are. Whatever. There are fantasy creatures involved in sort of an alternative world. Again, it's kind of for young people. And for some reason I think I picked up the book for free in a little free library, started flipping through it, realized I'm probably not going to read this, but I could listen to this while I'm doing yard work. So I ended up sticking with it, but same deal. One of the characters. And I'm trying to remember if Chabon wrote it this way or why it was that the. And I think it was Chabon who's actually doing the book on tape. But he starts doing black voice, like quite clearly for a fantasy creature. But is that is so clearly coded as black, like as you described, sort of a patois. And I was just like, uncomfortable. I remember like, flipping to be like, when did this thing get published? And would he make the same decision today?

[Luke Burbank]

I had that exact same thought yesterday. Luckily, that chapter was relatively short. I'm hoping that that ends up being a minor character.

[Andrew Walsh]

Yes.

[Luke Burbank]

Y. I hope we don't get to like, long, long stretches of that person being part of the story, because I don't. It makes me very uncomfortable to listen. All what I'm saying though, is that I am sticking with it. Like, even though there are parts of it that are long and kind of drawn out. Because something that I'm thinking about as far as, you know, getting through this next version of our lives together is I do think it would be useful for me to get some stuff done that I've always been meaning to get done that has been displaced by my obsessive consumption of the news moment to mom moment. Things like listening to some books that are probably be worth, you know, having experienced and whether that's the quote unquote classics, whether that's. I don't know where infinite just, you know, falls on that list. It's certainly a book that a lot of people think of very highly. Like, I just thought, you know, why don't I use the next four years when I'M looking for something to listen to. Why don't I find a book on tape that I've been meaning to get to my whole life and get to it? And that felt like, just like, okay, wow, I have something to listen to in the car now. Like, that, for whatever reason, kind of buoyed my spirits. And then the other thing that I did, Andrew, was. And this is the silliest of. I mean, this is the sillier of the two. I ordered a, like, child's. Like a. Like a child's keyboard, like Casio keyboard type of thing that comes with instructions and flashcards for how to play piano. Like, just very simple chords and like. I mean, it's really meant for children. Yeah. And I ordered it. It's going to. It's actually already shipped. It's going to get here in a few days. And I, you know, I don't have any. I don't have any illusions about, like, becoming some highly talented piano player, but it would be cool if I could bang out a few chords on the piano. And they. The technology has gotten, I think, so much better with the integration of, like, teaching software. Just things that just make it so much easier than the, you know, you're going to some kind of stern older lady's house on a Tuesday afternoon and sitting at the piano and she's looming over you, which I feel like is the piano lessons that a lot of people had. I feel like there's just. They've just gotten so many things now where it just shows you so easily, like which keys to hit and stuff. So I don't know. I guess my thought was if at the end of this really trying time that we're all going to go through, if I've read some of the sort of great works of modern literature and I can play, like, Let It Be on the piano, I'll feel like a different person. And I guess I'm being kind of serious now.

[Andrew Walsh]

What inspired the Let It Be montage?

[Luke Burbank]

It doesn't seem very hard, and it's kind of iconic.

[Andrew Walsh]

No, no, not. Not you right now. But remember, with all the celebrities got together, wasn't it Wonder Woman? Yeah, yeah. That was the.

[Luke Burbank]

That was the beginning of the pandemic.

[Andrew Walsh]

That was the pandemic. Yeah. Yeah. So you're. You're gonna bring the world together.

[Luke Burbank]

What a bad choice.

[Andrew Walsh]

Here's the thing.

[Luke Burbank]

I'm not going to quote it ponderously. I just thought, you know, dun, dun, dun, dun, dun, dun, dun, dun, dun.

[Andrew Walsh]

You're getting better already.

[Luke Burbank]

I mean, you have the keyboard.

[Andrew Walsh]

I heard it. I mean, it's in you.

[Luke Burbank]

But. But I'm being mildly serious when I. When I frame it this way, and I think everybody knows this instinctively. When you feel powerless and helpless, converting that into some sort of action of any kind makes you feel a little less powerless and helpless. And I'm not saying me learning three chords on the piano or getting through half of Infinite Jest is going to make the world a better place, but it will make me feel like a different person. And it makes me feel like, okay, I've got a mission, a personal mission as it relates to me for the next however long, which is, why don't I do some stuff that I've been meaning to do and see? And that made me feel a little less anxious for whatever reason. And I understand what I'm proposing is not social justice related. It's not. I'm not. I'm not proposing a solution to the danger of this incoming president. And I want to work on that stuff, too. But I guess I'm just reporting that ordering this little keyboard, downloading that book and listening to it, it made me feel a little less at loose ends in the world than I did on, say, Friday.

[Andrew Walsh]

There are a lot of times I talk into this microphone, and I think what I'm about to say is going to be a disaster. I've never had that feeling more strongly than I do right now, and I'm being serious about that as I try to describe to you a cartoon that I read the other day. So I want. I want to be clear why I'm thinking about this, because it really sounds like I wasn't listening to you at all, and I sort of was.

[Luke Burbank]

No, you don't. Oprah.

[Andrew Walsh]

When you were talking about playing piano, I immediately pictured you playing Great Balls of Fire. Like, I just.

[Luke Burbank]

Another unproblematic.

[Andrew Walsh]

Yeah, right. Yeah, right.

[Luke Burbank]

Artist, pop icon.

[Andrew Walsh]

I like to separate the art from the artist. But I don't want to say this in a way that sounds cruel at all, but we have to acknowledge the somewhat teasing nature with which I relay this. But I got. It's pretty rare that I get these. I got an email from my dad a couple of weeks ago that was just like one of those. It's like the most boomer y kind of email you can get. It's just like. It's literally a forward. That was a forward of a forward. And then when you get past all the forwards, it's just a whole bunch of, like. It's like a whole bunch of kind of Little like one panel cartoons, but they're not usually New Yorker style. They're more like Reader's digest style. And it's just like always filled with like Boomer esque humor. It was just like the mo. It was just like, it was pretty adorable. And it's just like the theme of this email was a bunch of one panel cartoons related to music or rock and roll in some way. And the cartoon that I'm gonna try to describe to you now because I had to stare at it for a while before I finally got it, was a sitting on the edge of a table talking to his doctor. And the doctor says, oh, your nerves are shaken and your brain is rattled. That sounds really bad. And then the patient says, yeah, speaking of, there's something else you got to look at, which would be his great balls of fire, which is a joke there. I had to stare at it. I had to stare at it. I'm just like, what? What? Oh, great balls of fire. Anyway, that was the joke that I was setting up, but I was listening.

[Luke Burbank]

Classic Steve Miller band.

[Andrew Walsh]

Classic. Yes, they call me.

[Luke Burbank]

I just sent you, by the way, Andrew, the link to the piano that I bought. It's called a lug piano. L O G. If you get this in time, click on the link and tell me if this is not.

[Andrew Walsh]

That's like cute as hell.

[Luke Burbank]

Comfort food in a p. Like, like, doesn't this. Now I see.

[Andrew Walsh]

You know, I was picturing this, like just sort of a black Casio that has no design. Of course. Who am I talking to? I know why you bought this thing. Did thing come across your Instagram? It's so cute looking. It's so like.

[Luke Burbank]

I cannot answer that question on the basis that it may incriminate me.

[Andrew Walsh]

This is human.

[Luke Burbank]

I want to, like, I want to spoon with this piano as much as I want to play it.

[Andrew Walsh]

Isn't it like, this is going to look so nice on your shelf. I'll come over and dust it for you every now and then.

[Luke Burbank]

It could go. It could go back there behind me with all of the other failed projects.

[Andrew Walsh]

Do you remember? Got a skateboard That's a. Oh, man, again, me just quoting bad jokes from earlier generations. But I swear that's like an early Simpsons joke where like, Bart gives up on something and Homer is like, very comforting. He's like, just throw it in the closet with your snowboard and your roller blades and everything else that you failed at. No, this thing is cute as hell, though. But now I definitely. I have a better understanding of how this came to be.

[Luke Burbank]

I definitely would. The look of it was appealing to me, but also, you know, I think part of it is that, like, speaking of the Howard Stern show, he has. He's learning how to play guitar, and he is actually playing guitar on the show a lot. And he's pretty bad, which I found actually to be endearing because it's a very vulnerable thing. Like, it's. And he knows that he's pretty bad, but he's also getting better and, like, from where he started. I mean, first of all, the whole. Just. I think. I don't know if I said this on air or off air to you, but this, like, a white guy of a certain age is, like, obsession with, like, rock riffs is just one of the things I have the absolute least amount of patience for or interest you.

[Andrew Walsh]

And I were emailing back and forth about my feeling towards just anything that is labeled as, like, rock and roll. Like, clearly I like music that would be in that category. But I've said this on the show before. In fact, I think me and Jen Flash Andrews got into a. We bickered about it live on stage during the 24 hour show about, like, I'm just basically like, if your song mentions the word rock and roll, I don't want that song anywhere near me. Like, I'm d. With songs that have the words rock and roll in them. Anything that sort of celebrates anything that would be considered the rock and roll lifestyle or aesthetic is not for me.

[Luke Burbank]

But I have to say, it has been a kind of a. The actual listening to him progress and get better at playing guitar. And he's a very disciplined dude. That's the thing about, you know, the sort of image of Howard Stern to people that never really listened to the radio show and just saw that, you know, TV show that was on E. Is that he's. He's a wild man. And it's like he couldn't be less that in real life. He is a very, very talented painter now because he decided he wanted to learn how to paint like he is.

[Andrew Walsh]

What are his paintings like, by the way? You're talking about him, like, maybe like doing a coming on and trying to slash out a riff on his guitar. Are his paintings Play a little Joe Walsh. Are his Eagles paintings what I would expect? Like, kind of like they're all paintings.

[Luke Burbank]

Of Sammy Hagar and other members of Chicken. Sammy Hagar side.

[Andrew Walsh]

Is that really.

[Luke Burbank]

I think he's in a sidebar called Chicken Foot. No, they're actually. They're. They're like old barns that are falling down in the northeast. And like, Like a. I think he did one of like a shoe that was really good. And I think maybe some cats, believe it or not, like, it's very, very sort of hyper. Hyper realistic, almost photograph quality. And like, you can Google them. They're on the Internet, but they're like, they're. They show a person who is actually very disciplined. And when he puts his mind towards something, unlike me and Bart Simpson, there's not just a closet of attempted things. There's like he gets really into something and then he puts in like, he does his Malcolm Gladwell, you know, he does his 10,000 hours on it. And I'm hearing him get better at the guitar. And if that's where it ended, I would say it's a good. It's a really good bit for them. The problem is it invariably goes into like, is Joe Satriani better than Steve Vai? Which is just not a conversation I care about. Like, ah, don't. Don't we miss Leslie west from the band Mountain? Like, these are not conversations I care about, but to the degree that maybe I can kind of get into a little bit of a zone with this keyboard and learn a few simple songs, it might be. And it also could fit right here, Andrew, in front of me. Yeah, maybe I could. I could. You know, we could start doing a thing where I accompany tbtl. Like, I'm the organist at a Dodgers game, as you're, like, about to tell me about a cartoon. This show needs great balls of fire.

[Andrew Walsh]

This show needs more ways to interrupt my concentration when I'm trying to form one cogent thought. That's what the show needs. You just drown me out. You just like, slowly get louder and louder while I get quieter and quieter. Honestly, I could probably use this time to get more stuff done. Blast away emails. Anyway, so I look forward to my new keyboard overlord.

[Luke Burbank]

What I'm trying to say is if you are feeling a little, and I think maybe a little is an understatement, if you are feeling a lot sad today or a lot intimidated today by the future, something that might help is to just think about something you've always meant to do and then think about if you can take a small step in that direction, whether you even get there or whether whatever it is you embark on goes into your closet of failures. Like the simple act of engaging with it makes you feel less powerless. At least it's making me feel less powerless. So that's kind of good.

[Andrew Walsh]

Well, I spent the weekend kind of self Soothing by learning how to make gifts out of old Pink Panther cartoons. I don't know. Did you happen to see my Instagram post? I think you will dig these. I've been putting.

[Luke Burbank]

I'll go right now.

[Andrew Walsh]

Honestly, it was. It was like a little artist. I go on these little projects that are like, kind of not necessary for anything other than as a way for me to sort of learn my software, my various softwares a little bit better.

[Luke Burbank]

Look at literally the first thing that popped up. This is great.

[Andrew Walsh]

There's like five of them you can scroll through. And what's. So one thing I've been doing lately is when I'm playing darts. I don't know if I told you this, but I.

[Luke Burbank]

Hold on, let me. I'm going to come. Dun, dun, dun, dun.

[Andrew Walsh]

Hey, that's pretty good. Pretty good. Henry Mancini there.

[Luke Burbank]

I love that.

[Andrew Walsh]

So you remember that old little projector speaking of things that were kind of made for kids and have kind of a cute little design to them that you bought off of Instagram? I bought one of those little plastic projectors for like a cheapo one for like 60 bucks or whatever a few years ago. And I love putting it on. In my old studio, I had kind of a more blank wall space, and I would just plug that in and it would sort of just be. You know, we talk about audio spackle on the show. Sometimes it'd be like background images or what I call now video spackle. Well, I've had that for a while, and I haven't found a real way integrate it into my life in this new house. But one thing I realized was I now sort of have a permanent place where I can set up a little laptop near my dartboard. Don't worry, it's not in danger. It's far enough away.

[Luke Burbank]

We were all worried.

[Andrew Walsh]

I was putting. I would sometimes watch a football game there. Or then I started thinking, well, I'll just put on some visual spackle, like old 60s or 70s cartoons on this laptop, because it's just sitting there anyway, then I'm like, oh, I should just plug in that projector and kind of put it underneath my dartboard. So while I'm playing darts, I have this sort of somewhat askew little projection of whatever I want to watch. And I was watching some old, like, kind of like German cartoons from the 1960s for a while. Just like, weird shit. And then the algorithm told me I wanted to watch some Pink Panther or something. I don't know how I got on it, but I've been watching the algorithm being YouTube? Yeah. I would watch all this stuff on YouTube, like, find playlists.

[Luke Burbank]

And you have some like you. And you have somehow like muted the commercials.

[Andrew Walsh]

I just mute the whole thing. I'm usually listening. So this is.

[Luke Burbank]

Mute was the wrong word. You have to see commercials. Is there like a Carvana ad that's like bumming your vibe when you're in, like, deep, like Pink Panther territory?

[Andrew Walsh]

There are different ways. It sort of depends. I have landed on some commercials where every now and then there will be an ad in between. And I do not like that because then you have to go over there and skip it, otherwise it'll go forever. But honestly, a lot of this Pink Panther stuff, you can find like full playlists of the entire first season. And keep in mind they are only like 10 minute cartoons or something. And it'll just roll one after the other after the. Or someone will just make one video of literally five and a half hours of Pink Panther cartoons. Just bad. So anyway, I've just had this on in the background and some of the early animation of this stuff when it was almost just like a sketch, it was like simple line drawings. It was just like, so goddamn cool. And I started thinking like, oh, that could be a gif. And there's something about the style of it where you could like loop it almost perfectly. I sort of noticed that it just been on my mind for the past couple of weeks. And then this weekend I'm like, I'm gonna learn how to like, like, download these YouTube videos, put them into my system, and see if I can make little gifs out of them. And boy, was it satisfying. I uploaded some of them to my Instagram Today I learned the one thing about Bluesky is you can't upload your own animated GIFs so that I can't what? I can't share them there yet. But anyway, yeah, so I really found that to be a very soothing exercise. And I'll tell you what, I think I'm just getting going on this, although I always say that. And then I drop the project. Like, I haven't touched. I haven't digitized a VHS tape in like two or three months now. And then remember I was gonna digitize all my old voicemail tapes and I even got that a listener gave me a small, like, Dictaphone to help me do it. And then I kind of dropped that project for a while. So I don't know how long I'll be your. Your number one Pink Panther gift creator. But for right now, I'm right Here for you.

[Luke Burbank]

I hope you continue. Just the. The look. These little things that you. These little gifts that you made. Just the look of it. Now, this makes me want to go on a Fritz Freyling, like, adventure, I guess. There's a documentary about him about Freyling, who. Who is. Who kind of was the creative force behind that look of the Pink Panther stuff and a bunch of. I mean, he was like, a very famous animator for Warner Brothers and all these. He did tons of stuff. But I didn't realize he was also the person that's kind of credited with being in charge of the look of the Pink Panther stuff.

[Andrew Walsh]

See, I. Only when you said that name, I thought you were just seeing it in the credits right there. See, I only know that I didn't have that context for it. I've just been seeing that name a lately in the credits. So I didn't realize that he was just. He was so famous that I would. I should definitely check out that documentary.

[Luke Burbank]

Yeah, he was like a Looney Tunes. Like, a lot of the best, like, Looney Tunes stuff was him. Like, he was just an absolute legend. I could just. Born in Kansas City, Missouri, by the way, shout out to our listeners in Kansas City. There should be a museum of Fritz Freyling there, as far as I'm concerned. Maybe there is and what there probably is, actually. Anyway, I hope you keep doing that, Andrew, because I'm in love. I feel like that's like Pink Panther core. That's stylistically where I want to live for the next four years. I want to learn how to play piano, and I want to just be dressed like one of those weird little creatures, like a long raincoat and a hat and a pointy nose. I'm very into that. Again, we overuse this word, but just that sort of aesthetic, I guess.

[Andrew Walsh]

You know what Pink Panther said when he stepped on an anti.

[Luke Burbank]

What?

[Andrew Walsh]

Dead ant. Dead ant. Dead. Thank you for being a T. For.

[Luke Burbank]

Instance, Andrew, I'll be able to play this song pretty soon.

[Andrew Walsh]

Oh, yeah. But then. But then Lenie will be out of work.

[Luke Burbank]

Oh, yeah. You know what? I'll make sure to not learn the Golden Girls, the special modified Golden Girl song for tbtl. Just. I'll leave that to the professional, like our friend Celine.

[Andrew Walsh]

I love the way I have delusions that we're the one keeping Celine working.

[Luke Burbank]

And also that I would ever be able to learn this song.

[Andrew Walsh]

I think you could. I believe that you could learn this song. But I believe Lena charged us a bracelet for this.

[Luke Burbank]

I did make the bracelet. Were you surprised I came through and.

[Andrew Walsh]

I still have it here. I've been texting with Celine. I said, I haven't seen you in so long. I'm sorry, could you just want me to mail this? And she, she said, you know what? I'm going to be a pain here. I'm going to force you to give it to me in person. Because sometimes being a friend means also just having to guilt people into hanging out with you. And I said, you know what? That is fair enough. I will see you soon, my friend.

[Luke Burbank]

Does she know that you're. Now you figured out how to play Pink Panther near your dartboard. You're never leaving the house.

[Andrew Walsh]

I'm never leaving the house.

[Luke Burbank]

Fully. You've fully created the best part of a bar experience without having to actually go anywhere. Now you've got like silent films running. You got your music, you're throwing your darts, you got your drinks. You're like, you're set.

[Andrew Walsh]

Actually, you know what, while we're here, since I got us off track, let me do this. Since Leni has been so good to us in so many ways, let me promote her upcoming show, which I'm really excited to go to on November 23rd. Rabbit Box Theater. Celine, who is the creative force behind Prom Queen and Lene and other projects that we love, has a new project, Snax the Bunny.

[Luke Burbank]

Wait, I mean, maybe she's the manager of snacks.

[Andrew Walsh]

The Bunny, Yeah, she's friends with snacks. The Bunny. Whoa, you just almost blew my mind for a second. But she has a new project called Stargazer that she's collaborating with other local musicians who. I don't have their names in front of me, but people in projects that you would be familiar with. Anyway, Stargazer, they're performing their very first show at the Rabbit Box Theater, November 23rd. I will be there. I believe that's a Saturday. And everybody should come out and support Lenie because she is amazing.

[Luke Burbank]

Absolutely amazing. As is Sarah Beth Rebholtz of Middleton, Wisconsin, our first donor that we're thanking today. Sara Beth is supporting TBTL with a donation. Thank you so much. Thanks also to Steve Cordley, who's in Bellevue, Washington. Beautiful. Bellevue, Washington. Lisa Perry, checking in from Oxford, Massachusetts. You thought I was going to say Ohio, Andrew?

[Andrew Walsh]

I thought you were going to say Great Britain, Luke.

[Luke Burbank]

Uh huh. Yeah. It's not, it's neither of those two. It's Massachusetts. That's where Lisa is. Thank you. Thanks to Sarah Templeton. Sarah's in Portland, Oregon.

[Andrew Walsh]

Hey, thank you, Sarah.

[Luke Burbank]

I love that town. I love that place. We got a new mayor in Portland, Oregon, interestingly enough, who says he is going to fix everything in Portland in one year. And I welcome him to do that. We'll see if it works. You know, Portland did this ranked choice thing this year.

[Andrew Walsh]

Oh, yeah. They ended up with a really good pizza, I heard.

[Luke Burbank]

Well, that's the thing. It's. It's. So it means that it's not just the sort of the traditional you vote for one candidate over the other. What it means is that the guy who became mayor of Portland seemed to be a complete shock to everyone, including him. I think his name is, like, key. Is it Keith Wilson, I think is his name. And like, I met him because I hosted this kind of nonpartisan, like, Portland political thing a few weeks ago which had all of the mayoral candidates, all of the city council candidates, and this guy seemed like a nice enough chap and, you know, whatever, but I don't know. I wouldn't have picked him out of the eight people to say this is the dude that's going to get the gig. I think it again, this ranked choice thing, I don't know if it's good or bad, but it certainly created an outcome that seems like no one saw coming.

[Andrew Walsh]

Including the candidate?

[Luke Burbank]

Including the candidate. I think he was as surprised as anyone anyway.

[Andrew Walsh]

He's like the Valinsky of. Well, that's a bad comparison. He's like the Vladimir Zelinsky Zelensky of Portland. Wasn't Zelensky just like a comedian that everybody was surprised?

[Luke Burbank]

I heard him described as like the Jon Stewart Ukraine, like before. Yeah, you know, before the war and everything. And when he became. Is he president?

[Andrew Walsh]

I was going to say president. I was going to say president, but I think I already messed up his last name once. So I'm out over my skis here.

[Luke Burbank]

Thank you, Sarah. Thanks to Ann Piquino of Everett, Washington.

[Andrew Walsh]

Thank you, Ann. Long time. I know that we never. Well, maybe you did nail them.

[Luke Burbank]

We never feel confident about how we're saying Ann's last name, but I'm confident.

[Andrew Walsh]

Yes, that she's been supporting the show for a long, long time. Because that's a familiar name and a familiar friend of the show. Thank you, Ann.

[Luke Burbank]

Absolutely. Thanks, Ann. And then Douglas Prindle is in Bothell, Washington. Once you pop, you can't stop.

[Andrew Walsh]

That's right. You want to pop for a day or a lifetime.

[Luke Burbank]

Thank you, Douglas. Thanks to all of our donors for making TBTL possible. We couldn't do this without you. Hello and welcome to Top Story. All right, Andrew, you and I are not particularly close NBA followers. I know it's not historically been a thing you were super engaged with and for me it was when the NBA let the Seattle Sonics move out of Seattle. I was very, very heartbroken and have kind of been 50% protest voting with my feet and my dollars and my eyes since then of not engaging. But I do really like the Milwaukee Bucks player Giannis. And you might have to help me with the pronunciation because I'm still bad at this. Antetokounmpus.

[Andrew Walsh]

No, this is one of those words that I can say in my head and I'm always proud because I hear it talked about so much on the Lebatard show or he's talked about so much on the Leo or Giannis, we'll.

[Luke Burbank]

Just call him Giannis.

[Andrew Walsh]

But when I go to say it myself, I stumble on it. I'm always so mad because I feel like in my head I know exactly how to say it. Antetokounmp.

[Luke Burbank]

Oh, antetokounmpo. There you go. That was good.

[Andrew Walsh]

I think I'm close there. I think I might be missing it.

[Luke Burbank]

But that's very kumpo. I love this guy so much. Like just there's so many kind of great stories about him. Like in his rookie, his rookie year he got a ride to the game from some fans, like a random middle aged husband and wife because he, like, I think he was trying to go to the cash machine but like, I don't know if he didn't have a car. Like they literally just saw him jogging down the street and they were like, aren't you supposed to be at the game? And he's like, yeah, can I get a ride? And I think he sort of maintained some, a little bit of contact with these people. Like they were kind of friendly a little bit or whatever. Like he just seems, every time I, I see an interview with him or hear something about him, I just, I just love the guy so much. I think he's from Greece originally. Anyway, he was in a game was the Bucks against the Boston Celtics this weekend. Hand and he drove the lane and I guess elbowed assault explorer named Jalen Brown and he got called for an offensive foul. And then as he was running back he reached out to shake hands with Jaylen Brown. And as Jalen Brown reached for Giannis's hand, Giannis pulled it back and fixed his own hair.

[Andrew Walsh]

Oh my God. Oh my God.

[Luke Burbank]

In the middle of the game on the court and then just started laughing. He totally did a laugh. Like psych. Like in the middle of an NBA game. And when they asked Jalen Brown about it after the game, he said, Giannis is a child. He said. Yeah, he said Giannis is a. Let's see. I'm trying to find the exact quote here. Yeah, Brown said, giannis is a child. I'm just focused on helping my team get a win, and that's what we did tonight. But when you watch the tape of Giannis doing this, like, too slow. Yeah, too slow, Joe. It is the most heartwarming, childlike, and I mean that in the best way. Like, it. It seriously brightened my entire morning watching Giannis do this. Like, I love it so much.

[Andrew Walsh]

I wish the other player. Who's the other player? I don't think I'm Jalen Brown. Oh, Jalen Brown. I've heard that based on just this.

[Luke Burbank]

Reading, and I don't know if this is true or not there. This was a Matt Gagan writing for a CBS sport. Something about how Jalen Brown is a deeply serious player. So it's like he's just not about.

[Andrew Walsh]

It's just a bad.

[Luke Burbank]

About the jokes.

[Andrew Walsh]

That's a bad thing. That would be fun. I mean, maybe I would feel differently if I was passionately rooting for one of the teams, but, like, there's something about. I'm trying to figure. Because I'm going to give an example here. I'm going to give sort of an analog. And I worry that I'm going to talk myself out of this argument. But it would have been fun in this instance, I think, as somebody who's not a huge fan of either one of these teams, if the other player who just sort of got dissed also. Also laughed about it and said, yeah, we're all. That would be fun. However, I know that you specifically don't like when you see that, because sometimes, like, people will goof on Julio Rodriguez, right, our Mariners center fielder, who's a really, really good center fielder and will steal home runs out there at the wall all the time. And sometimes he even, like one time he did this thing where he caught the ball, but he pretended he didn't and then flashed the ball, which was like, really kind of like that kind of breaks the old school sort of norms of baseball or whatever. But then I've seen other players, like, sort of goof on when they steal his home runs, like if he's, you know, at the plate or whatever, and then he hits one out to center field and it gets stolen. I've seen other players who are playing that position sort of like imitate him or sort of like throw it back in his face, his little things. And he has a great attitude about it. I think about it all the time. He's like, okay, I see you. And he'll point and he'll laugh at the ridiculousness of somebody kind of goofing on him a little bit. And I think to myself always, man, I wish I could take a joke like that. And I also wish, wish, stop smiling and get back to work. You're not very good this year. You know what I mean? It's really hard when you see somebody on your team taking an insult in stride, but they're not doing very well. It's easy to get butt hurt about that.

[Luke Burbank]

I would say the difference is this was one play in the midst of a larger game. Whereas the particular thing you're talking about was I think the, maybe the end of the game or a really critical moment where the guy went and snatched the ball away and then did the no fly zone thing at Julio. Like. So in other words, if this was like a three pointer as time expired in this game and I'm a fan of one of the teams, my, my tolerance for the sort of jocularity and joking around kind of goes down. Whereas if it's like midway through the second quarter and it's just one play where they call an offensive foul on Giannis, you know what I mean? So that's part of it is like. Or if it was a football game and it's the critical play and then the guy who, from the Seahawks was involved, Geno throws an interception and then he's like the guy who intercepted it. Fake high fives him. By the way, did you see that? A guy who made interception this weekend did a fake ray gun breakdance in the end zone, which I thought was pretty, pretty awesome.

[Andrew Walsh]

That is pretty great.

[Luke Burbank]

He fully redid ray guns. He redid ray guns. Olympics dance performance.

[Andrew Walsh]

Oh my God, I gotta look that up.

[Luke Burbank]

And it's great because the guy's like a. The guy's like a cornerback or a safety.

[Andrew Walsh]

So.

[Luke Burbank]

So I mean, the chances that he would get to use that are pretty low. He's not like a running back. He's not like a guy who's going to score a touchdown or a receiver who gets targeted a lot. Like, he had to, like he was really had to keep this in his back pocket.

[Andrew Walsh]

I don't think there's any sound on this, right? I mean, no useful sound. I think this is like a cell phone camera from taking.

[Luke Burbank]

I'm Guessing that the announcers, if there were any, didn't put it together, that that's what he was doing at first.

[Andrew Walsh]

Yeah. And I don't think that this is broadcast film I'm watching here. It looks like it's in a cell phone, you know, like from. From somebody who had sideline access. But it's wonderful. At first, you can't tell what he's doing until he gets on the ground and he starts squirming around like a worm. I love it.

[Luke Burbank]

And again, I love that this guy. I mean, this is a guy who is. Does not. Unless he gets an interception, he doesn't get to do this dance very much. Like, it's not like he's a. He's not a receiver who. Who's going to probably get a touchdown maybe most weeks or whatever. So I liked that he was this prepared.

[Andrew Walsh]

Oh, I love. Let's name him. It looks like it's Cameron Bynum, if I'm saying that correctly, of the Vikings. Yeah, yeah.

[Luke Burbank]

Oh, yeah. And he's a Viking, too, which we Stan Skull. We Stan the Vikings. Anyway, the funny thing is, later in the game, Giannis tried to shake. Tried to do another high five with Jalen Brown, and Jalen Brown refused to interact with him, of course.

[Andrew Walsh]

I mean, what do you think?

[Luke Burbank]

Fool me twice. I won't get fooled again.

[Andrew Walsh]

What do you think Giannis does there? Do what? What. What if Brown had gone ahead?

[Luke Burbank]

I think he really shakes his hand.

[Andrew Walsh]

I think he really shakes his hand the second time.

[Luke Burbank]

But Jalen Brown wasn't going to risk it.

[Andrew Walsh]

No. No, you can't. Boy, that is really how. And again, this is all done in fun and it doesn't matter, but that is really how the bully gets the upper hand, right? Like, yes, just by setting all of the. Setting the tone and setting the rules.

[Luke Burbank]

I am generally not a fan of what you would describe as bullying behavior, except both of these men are in the National Basketball Association. So I don't feel like it's. It's not your typical bully situation, because Jalen Brown is also a physical specimen of high accomplishment when it comes to getting into the NBA. This was the other thing that I saw from. I don't know if it was this weekend or when this actually went down, but the New Orleans Pelicans were having one of those little kind of sort of contests during a break, you know, like maybe a timeout or in between quarters or even the half where they pick a fan out of the audience and they let him stand at the free throw line and They've got, you know, the ball rack. So he's got a bunch of basketballs ready to go. And apparently the thing that was going to make this kind of entertaining is the guy's job is not to shoot the ball into the basket like a typical free throw, right? He is supposed to bounce the ball on the court and then try to bounce it up and into the basket.

[Andrew Walsh]

Oh, wow. And he's standing half court. No, he's standing.

[Luke Burbank]

No, he's standing at the free throw line.

[Andrew Walsh]

Okay. Yeah.

[Luke Burbank]

So he's just. He's like. It's like imagine a player just standing at the free throw line. But this is like a fan. We know that his name is Will, okay? And so Will is supposed to see how many balls he can bounce on the floor and then up into the hoop in, say, whatever it is, 30 seconds.

[Andrew Walsh]

Can I ask you a question?

[Luke Burbank]

You sure can do.

[Andrew Walsh]

Are they picking these fans out of the crowd randomly the night of, or do you know that you are the fan who's going to do this this night and you can practice for a week or something? Something.

[Luke Burbank]

I believe that this fan is picked randomly. He's in street clothes. He's not like in, you know, basketball shorts. Like, I think he just. I think he was picked that night.

[Andrew Walsh]

Okay?

[Luke Burbank]

And it is clear that Will did not internalize the rules of the contest because at no time does he try to bounce the ball off the floor and into the hoop. He proceeds to just shoot free throws for the entire 30 seconds over the protestations of the guy who's on the microphone trying to lead this whole thing. You know, there's always some, like, hype guy who's running around, like, you know, announcing these contests. Take a listen to this. This is a guy named Will during a break at a New Orleans Pelicans games, just absolutely misunderstanding the assignment. One go.

[D]

No, wait. It's not a free throw. You got to do a bounce pass. You got to do. Bounce it, Will. You gotta bounce it, Will. You have to bounce it. You have to bounce it into the basket. You have to bounce it. Yes, you do. And you have less than 15 seconds to do it. Nope. Oh, boy. Well, this is embarrassing.

[Luke Burbank]

At no time does Will adjust what he is doing. He just continues to shoot these free throws like the normal way and not ever bounce the ball.

[D]

You gotta bounce it. Nope. Okay, this is not.

[Luke Burbank]

You have.

[D]

Oh, you gotta bounce it, Will. We're about to go viral right now. We are about to go viral.

[Andrew Walsh]

We're about to go viral.

[Luke Burbank]

Will, you've gotta Bounce it.

[Andrew Walsh]

Will go.

[D]

No, wait, it's not a free throw. You got to do a bounce pass. You got to do bounce it, Will. You gotta bounce it, Will. You have to bounce it. You have to bounce it into the basket. You have to bounce it. Yes, you do. And you have less than 15 seconds to do it. Nope. Oh, boy. Well, this is embarrassing. Will, you gotta bounce it. Nope. Okay, this is how you have. Oh, you gotta bounce it, Will. We're about to go viral right now. We are about to go viral.

[Luke Burbank]

By the way, that doesn't not sound like Keegan Michael Key.

[Andrew Walsh]

Yeah, it does a little. I didn't hear it, but you got about.

[Luke Burbank]

And then it's just Jordan Peele playing Will.

[Andrew Walsh]

I don't even know how to describe the tone of voice. Like, reproachful, I guess, in a certain way, but certainly like you're talking to a child who is just not listening. Here's what I think is happening, though, and I don't have the visuals to go along with that. I just know what you've told me here and what I just heard. But I wonder if in that moment, your adrenaline is firing through your body so quickly you aren't even hearing the announcer. You're just hearing some sort of a roar of sound in your ears while you are just desperately trying to make a free. Free throw, not realizing that that is not, as you say, the assignment.

[Luke Burbank]

I. That's exactly my theory of the case is that Will, from the moment they picked his number or his ticket section or whatever, from the moment that he stepped onto that court, he stopped being able to interpret human sounds.

[Andrew Walsh]

Yes.

[Luke Burbank]

Like. And I've been in, like. I guess the closest I've been to that was, like, when I threw out that pitch at the Mariners game. Sure. And I just remember my whole. Like, my knees felt weak. My body was. I felt totally out of my body. And there was, like, my legs and. And also my. My arms and my legs. Like. And. And there was. I don't know, there was like a thousand people in the stadium, and most of them were tens, by the way, at that time. Like, it was. It was such a. It should have been a relatively low pressure situation, but I just remember feeling so overwhelmed and. And just, like, again, like, just totally out of body. And I. All I can think is Will must have just been so out of his body that he's. Because he's. He is not registering at all that the announcer keeps telling him to bounce it.

[Andrew Walsh]

Will, we're bouncing. Will. Will, we have to bounce.

[D]

One go no, wait, it's not a free throw. You got to do a bounce pass. You got to do bouncing. Will, you got a bounce it. Will, you have to bounce it. You have to bounce it into the basket. You have to bounce it. Yes, you do. And you have less than 15 seconds to do it. Nope. Oh, boy. Well, this is embarrassing. Will, you gotta bounce it. Nope. Okay. This is not.

[Luke Burbank]

Nope. Okay, you have.

[D]

Oh, you gotta bounce it, Will. We're about to go viral right now. We are about to go viral. Here I go once again with the email. Every week.

[Luke Burbank]

I hope that it's from a female.

[D]

Oh, man. It's not from a female.

[Luke Burbank]

Even though it's Veterans Day, Andrew, we've got a busy day around here. Like, I've got the ikea, hopefully the IKEA people coming to pick up this partially assembled malm, which I'm really, really stressed about. Like, Like, I've got Andrew levels of stress over this because beat to hell the person on the phone. I did not beat it to hell, for the record. But it definitely has no purpose going forward. Like, by the time this, by the time it gets to the. Because it's not fully assembled. Like, half of it is assembled now and then the other half is back in the box. And by the time it gets to IKEA hq, there's nobody that wants to buy a half assembled malm. Like, it just, it has. It has no value to them. But the person on the phone assured me that it was okay to return it this way, so that's what I'm going to do. But I also feel like the person who's coming to pick it up is not the person I talked to on the phone. I'm already like, I'm. I'm already sort of setting up my case to the person who's gonna look at and go, what do you. I can't. I'm gonna just take this back and just like give it to the IKEA in Portland. And what are they gonna do with. I go, I don't know, dude. That's what they told me on Ask Jeeves. That's what they told me on the phone. So that's happening. I'm getting some other thing delivered today by FedEx that I don't even know what it is, but I know it weighs 93 pounds.

[Andrew Walsh]

Huh. That keyboard you bought is bigger than you thought. Oh, wait, for real? You have something coming that is listed as a 93 pound package and you don't know what it is?

[Luke Burbank]

What happens sometimes because. So I, I have. Because I'M I'm putting this bathroom in. What used to be the kitchen in my house is now going to become a bathroom. And it's all like. It's just a hollow shell of a room now, but it's been plumbed, like, for the toilet and the shower and everything. And I need to. I ordered, like, a shower kit, which is basically like. Like a shower pan and then these glass walls that's going to be like a shower you just step into. So that's been ordered. There's some. I've ordered a new, like, thing to go in the closet that's smaller, that's supposed to fit. I have all these orders that are out. But the problem is sometimes these companies, they subcontract it out to, like, FedEx. So I just get this update from FedEx. They're like, your delivery will be there on Monday. And I'm like, what is the delivery? I just know it's coming from Ontario, California, and it weighs 93 pounds, man.

[Andrew Walsh]

Well, if you get one randomly that says we couldn't deliver your package, click this link. Don't do it. I mean that. You get those all the time, too, right? Like, I get spam text messages all the time.

[Luke Burbank]

Oh, that's actually pretty smart.

[Andrew Walsh]

That say, you know, hey, this is the usps. We couldn't deliver your package. Click here. And I'm just like, you know, I don't fall for it, but the idea is that you're like, what, wait, I have a package that is supposed to be delivered. And, like, I could. Like, I don't. Usually I don't have so much stuff out on a line that I wouldn't remember that I'm having something delivered. You know, I'd be like, is that the record or is it this?

[Luke Burbank]

You know, I have this thing coming from West Elm, which it might be.

[Andrew Walsh]

Yeah. Yeah.

[Luke Burbank]

I don't know. But it's like. Also, the thing that's weird is the IKEA thing is set up as a delivery. Even though they're taking something away, I'm getting these updates from IKEA. Like, we're doing your delivery today between 11 and 3am Like, I think what you're doing is taking away a malm, but I just. I'm guessing that the system, it shows up the same way. Yeah, but there's just a lot of. And all of this logistics is now so farmed out to these third parties that, you know. So anyway, a busy Veterans Day around here. If I sound a little distracted, it's because I'm keeping one eye on the driveway to see when they pull up. But anyway, emails or. Emails.

[Andrew Walsh]

Yeah. Let me play one voicemail for you here. And this is something that you and I actually introduced on the show. What seems like a lifetime ago. I think it was maybe early last week. Week. And this was a voicemail that I haven't even listened to yet. I know it's from listener Jill in Lakewood, Ohio, and I know that it involves Frankie Valli. Help me set this up, Luke. We were talking about the fact that Frankie Valli, who is now like quite elderly. Right. Like, is he maybe late 80s or something? And he's. He's still going out and he's. He's touring or is he just. Does he have a residency somewhere? He's still doing stuff.

[Luke Burbank]

I think he's touring.

[Andrew Walsh]

He's touring and. But it's very clear that the notes that you are hearing if you were in the audience are not actually coming from this man's body anymore. There's just no way you had told this story on the show. And then it wasn't until later that I watched videos to understand how eerie this experience is to see these videos that people take from the audience of him. And I'm not trying to be cruel, but it's just kind of like you see him just sort of looking almost dazed and out of it and barely moving his face very much, but then you hear the sound of the. Is it. Was it the Four Seasons?

[Luke Burbank]

Yes. He's 90, by the way.

[Andrew Walsh]

He's 90 and it's just like there's no way that's coming out of him.

[Luke Burbank]

And if I can just clarify the thing that we said last time, by the way, as a 90 year old, we all should hope and pray we look as good as Frankie Valli does and seem as like for 90, Frankie Valli is killing it. Just like as a 90 year old in the world, it would appear here. Now, as far as a person who is trying to portray that they're singing these songs with the vigor he had at age 45. It's not really working. It's. It's. He's. Because he's not even really it. Again, I don't want to sound like I'm roasting old Frankie Valli, but it does have the effect of like a Chuck E. Cheese animatronic thing that's kind of going slightly awry.

[Andrew Walsh]

That isn't even, yeah, like quite up to snuff. Now, here's the deal. Like I mentioned, I have not heard Jill's voice. I don't know exactly what she has to say about this, but I was able to sort of scan the auto transcript. And I think the one thing I know is Jill says that she's been to a show and it is a trip.

[Jill]

Hey friendos, it's Jill from Lakewood, Ohio. I am time bandaging. So I wanted to get in on some Frankie Valli talk. I actually saw Frankie Valli on tour in September 2022. He came through Cleveland and my mom was in town and we thought, well, you know, that's something my mom might like to do do. He's at Playhouse Square, which is a big theater conglomeration playing at the Conner palace, which seats 2800 people. We could not get three seats together. It was that crowded. This show was so weird. First off, you knew that Frankie Valli was lip syncing and he was kind of walking around a little bit here and there and he looked, I mean he looked good for his age. And then he had backup singers who were, bless their hearts, singing their little hearts and. But they all look like, hey, we have a job. Isn't this great? He changed to a fancy glittery sequined scarf for his suit or glittery suit jacket for the second half. Because he started out with Grease. Everyone went nuts. Again, the audience was full of older people who were using a variety of canes and walkers and that was hard to get in and out of the theater. That was his target audience. Of course you had people around our age who were accompanying said older people. And then you had like people middle aged and younger, like in their twenties who were there on their own. And there was a woman in her 20s looked like who knew all the words to all his songs. It was amazing. We didn't understand what was going on and how he was such a big draw. Maybe it was Cleveland, Ohio, who knows? Getting out of the theater took forever because of said elderly component and canes and walkers. And then some people down a few rows ahead of us got so drunk they almost called an ambulance because they couldn't get them out of the theater. It was the weirdest show I've ever been to. He Frankie Valley. I don't know what he does to people, but he does something.

[Luke Burbank]

That's your new intro. I don't know what he does to people, but he. Oh, whoops, sorry, Jill.

[Andrew Walsh]

No, I don't know why that looped on me. My, my, my machine seems to be looping audio now. Sorry about that. But yeah, that is fascinating.

[Luke Burbank]

Yeah, I can definitely see this. Like, you know, if you're somebody who, like, kind of grew up listening to Frankie Valli, the idea that he's still out in the world making this music that means so much to you, particularly if you're like, maybe an older person that they're. I could see that being a really fun kind of nostalgic experience. And I mean, by all accounts, he's getting good turnout at these shows. I wonder if there's a way for them to present him so that it's more convincing. Right. Like, that's the thing. I. I think everybody just wants to kind of revel in the fact that, like, these. And again, Frankie Valley's had, like a crazy career from the song Grease to all the four season stuff to Jersey Boys is about him that, like, really big, you know, Broadway hit that's now toured endlessly and kind of more regional capacity. So, like, it's a fun thing for people to go out, particularly probably people of a certain age, to just, like, be like, yeah, Frankie Valli is still doing this. And that means that, you know, I'm still engaged with life in a way that I find really positive. I just wonder if there's a way for them to like, like, set him up for more success also. Maybe part of the thought is this audience is no longer possessing the greatest eyesight. So therefore, like, it's less of a big deal how convincing it is whether he's singing or not. Because let's just say the likelihood is if someone's in their 80s and they're sitting 20 rows back, they may be less keyed in on the exact movements of his mouth.

[Andrew Walsh]

Sure. Yeah. It might not be applying the same cynical lens that maybe somebody like, I might be applying to it, certainly.

[Luke Burbank]

I mean, they could almost.

[Andrew Walsh]

I love the fact that young people there, too. She said there was a pretty young contingent. I could see that.

[Luke Burbank]

I mean, I love that there were drunk people there that were so drunk they wouldn't leave.

[Andrew Walsh]

Yeah, yeah. I mean, I'm somebody. Like, I'm not really into the four season style of music, but, like, I definitely love music from that era. Like my love of Kixie radio before it sort of, like, kind of changed over the course of the past year and a half or so. Like when it was truly like early, or let's say early to mid-60s, like Sock Hoppy and pop and all that stuff. Like, I unironically loved that music and love that music. And so I let you know, I'm not in my 20s, obviously, but I love the fact that other people are drawn to music from that era, even if they didn't necessarily live through it.

[Luke Burbank]

Absolutely. And again, no. Yums. Yucked. If you. If somebody went to a Frankie Valli show and they had a great time, you know, that's awesome. I'm really glad that happened. I'm just. I wonder what. Because it became such a sort of a thing on, like, TikTok and stuff because, like, so many people have now kind of commented on it. I wonder if they'll continue putting that. I mean, there's also a lot of jobs on the line.

[Andrew Walsh]

Right.

[Luke Burbank]

Like, was it Jill in Ohio.

[Andrew Walsh]

Yeah.

[Luke Burbank]

Said that, like, there was a lot of people on stage who looked like they were enjoying the fact that they have professional singing jobs.

[Andrew Walsh]

Yeah, yeah, yeah.

[Luke Burbank]

Which is another way to look at it, too. Like, whatever Frankie Valley's thing is, there's. There's got to be like a couple hundred people who are. This is their profession is supporting this project. And if Frankie Valli decides to hang it up, they will have to go look for work elsewhere. So there, you know, there's a point at which he's kind of supporting this whole, you know, this whole crew in a way. And, you know, so maybe he's. Maybe. Maybe he knows he's not really fooling anyone, but he's doing it because he wants to keep everybody employed.

[Andrew Walsh]

He's trying to entertain. Yeah. He's performing. He's entertaining. I mean, there are much younger musicians who are aided with their vocals for some of these elaborate performances. I don't exactly know who it is, but I mean, I definitely know, like, I'm only. Well, we should wrap up the show. If you're waiting for your mal home don't tell mall Waiting for the mom.

[Luke Burbank]

Waiting for the mall.

[Andrew Walsh]

I like don't tell mom doors impression. I think you didn't hear my joke twice. Or you don't like it.

[Luke Burbank]

Oh, I'm sorry, no. What did you say?

[Andrew Walsh]

Don't tell mom. The babysitter's dad.

[Luke Burbank]

No, I didn't hear it. And that's real good.

[Andrew Walsh]

I think that might be the show title, but I don't know what I. Oh. Sometimes I'm confused as to whether or not we're supposed to believe people are actually singing during the super bowl or if that swings back and forth, because I remember. Was it last year or the year before, there was some, you know, iconic singer and she was singing and you could sort of, I think, even at times hear her being a little bit out of breath from the performance. But then there are other times you're just like. But there's no way you're actually making those sounds with your mouth. And I'm not sure that we are supposed to care about that. Right. Or is it a. I think that.

[Luke Burbank]

They'Re supposed to be, like, I'm thinking of Usher. I could hear in his voice, like, a little bit of, like, if he had done a particularly, like, a vigorous dance move, you could kind of hear it in his voice, you know? And like, yeah, I. I think that they're supposed to be singing.

[Andrew Walsh]

Okay.

[Luke Burbank]

Like, I don't think that they're supposed to be lip syncing.

[Andrew Walsh]

Nobody ever lip syncs to the.

[Luke Burbank]

Well, I don't. I can't say, you know, empirically. What I can say is, and only. This is only after you've eaten your tbtl. I can highly recommend Jamie Loftus's great podcast called your 16th minute of fame, where she does a whole episode about left Shark from the super bowl halftime show.

[Andrew Walsh]

I'm so glad you brought that up. I was gonna say, I still think Katy Perry's might be my favorite halftime show of all time that I saw live.

[Luke Burbank]

But, like, I mean, this is why this show that Jamie does to your 16th minute is so great. Because what it ends up being is a meditation on the super bowl halftime shows and the evolution of. Because it used to just be. For. Up until not that long ago, the super bowl halftime show was marching bands. Disney used to buy it out a lot, so it'd be like Salute to Epcot or some shit. The first solo performer to do the entire super bowl halftime show by themselves. So the first person to be, like, the super bowl entertainment was a. A guy named Elvis Presto who was an. A magician dressed as Elvis that was doing magic on stage or at the midfield of the Super Bowl. The problem was the guy who was booked to be Elvis Presto got a. Like, a Lee jeans commercial three days before the super bowl and took that. So the guy who was the choreographer of Elvis Presto had to play Elvis Presto and was not an Elvis lookalike, was not a magician, and did this whole halftime show in three days of prep as Elvis Presto.

[Andrew Walsh]

And are you allowed to steal somebody else's character like that? Like, also?

[Luke Burbank]

Well, he was the choreographer for it. He was. He was the most logical person to do it because he had been training the real Elvis Presto on the dance moves.

[Andrew Walsh]

Yeah, but still. But let's say I'm trying to think, like, can somebody. Can I just go out and, you know, can. Can, like, somebody who helps Neil Hamburger just go out and be Neil Hamburger. I mean, there must be an agreement. Like Elvis Presto must. Allowed this guy to do it. Right?

[Luke Burbank]

I don't. I don't even know if Elvis Presto was a real person before this. Like, I wonder if they booked. They hired someone to be Elvis Presto.

[Andrew Walsh]

Interesting.

[Luke Burbank]

I don't know. But here's what I do know. They didn't have the rights to any Elvis music because guess what?

[Andrew Walsh]

Yeah.

[Luke Burbank]

The whole Elvis Presto halftime show featured zero music from Elvis Presley because he was too expensive. It's all like great balls of fire to bring it back to where the show started. Started. It's like. And this is all in Jamie's amazing episode. I just. Please go listen to it. It's so great. But it's just like. It's the. It's the wildest thing that you just had this guy, this random dude now pretending to be this Elvis magician at halftime who's also doing this whole performance to zero Elvis music. And that's what it used to be. That used to be like that. That was acceptable for the halftime show.

[Andrew Walsh]

I like to think there is a baby born somewhere. And his parents named him Elvis Presto. And he grew up to say, you know what? I just gotta make. I was born with this name. Elvis Presto. I need to make the most of it. I will become an Elvis impersonator who does magic tricks. That's pro. That's how I see that.

[Luke Burbank]

Golden gray Chicago More.

[Andrew Walsh]

You can't do that. You don't have to.

[Luke Burbank]

Another baby child is born. Elvis Presto. Elvis Presto. It's gonna be so much better when I have my keys.

[Andrew Walsh]

Oh, good God.

[Luke Burbank]

Keys, keys, keys. Keys on Van. Did you live in LA long enough to get keys on Van Nuys?

[Andrew Walsh]

I don't think so. I think I maybe have heard you reference that before.

[Luke Burbank]

Some car dealership called Keys on Van Nuys. But they used to have some pretty great radio commercials. All right, that's gonna do it for today's show. But guess what? We're gonna be back here tomorrow with more imaginary radio. So please do hang out with us for that. In the meantime, have a great Monday, happy Veterans Day. Or a solemn Veterans Day or whatever we do on Veterans Day. And in the meantime, we'll see you tomorrow. Please remember, no mountain too tall, and.

[Andrew Walsh]

Good luck to all.

[Jill]

Hi, guys. Molly from Columbus, Ohio. I just want to tell you I have been on a media blackout all week just like everybody else. I don't know how I'm going to move forward with all of the avenues of distraction not available to me anymore. But yours was the first podcast I kicked back into Today on Friday, and I have to tell you, you helped so much. You are sorting through the same things I'm sorting through in my head, and it really is helping move forward, just like in 2016. Only this is different. You really have helped and I'm so grateful for you being there. So keep it up. Feels like the bad guys are winning, but there are still plenty of good guys out there and you're too. Thank you so much.

[Luke Burbank]

Power out.