
Andrew has a much-anticipated update on his plumbing situation at home, while Luke is hoping to have minor eye surgery this afternoon. They also discuss LeBron James’ decision to quit social media and whether or not they are to blame.
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You can't teach an old dog because they're too old and they can't listen.
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To you because they could be deaf.
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When the going gets tough, you get tougher. Don't judge a book. Yeah. Because it's a book. Don't put all of your eggs.
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Oh, yeah, because if sometimes if you put all your eggs, you'll run out of them.
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Out of sight, out of. Out of knowing. Two wrongs don't.
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Make it better.
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A picture is worth less than a person you love.
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Oh, I love that.
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The best things in life are family and pets. Don't cry over anything. Tbtl.
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I consider myself to be an absolutely dead center, normal, average American. Here's the 1 0. Swung on. There it goes. Deep left center. That ball is high. It is. It is gone. But caught. I'm not very good with chit chat. I like a structured communication.
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I like a hard out. You know, chit chat, chit chat, chit chat. Where are we going right now?
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Be bop, bop, bop, boo. I don't even know what that means.
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No one knows what it means, but it's provocative. Oh, my God. Oh, my God. Oh, my God. This is a whole new level of nerd.
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Well, all right. Hello, good morning, and welcome, everyone, to a Thursday edition of tbtl, the show that just might be too beautiful to live. Hi, everyone. Welcome to my farm. My name is Luke Burbank. I am your host. I hate podcasting. It's just ruined my life. Coming to you from the Madrona Hill studio, perched high above the mighty Columbia, where it was gorgeous this morning, actually. Like, it was just beautiful out.
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Yeah.
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Oh, yeah, buddy. But now it's raining again. I was able to use the brief window of no precipitation to get out there and get on my jog. This is the final day, actually, of 75 hardish for me, emphasis on the ish. Time flies when you're observing the end of a democracy, my friends. What's a dark start for the show? I promise. I just need to get that out of my system. And now I'm ready to just. It's just sweetness and light for the next 60 minutes here on episode 4342 in a collector series, let the fun begin. LeBron James says he is quitting social media.
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Cleveland, this is for you.
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And I feel like I played a role in cyberbullying LeBron James to within an inch of his life. So we will reflect on that. Also. It's a Thursday, AKA blurrsday.
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It's my birthday today.
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We have a lot of blur Messages. Life finds a way, people. So we'll do those as well. And we're gonna talk to this guy, longest running cobro of the show, maybe best known for his depictions of the tall ships. He is raring to go on this Thursday.
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There's a hidden Valley Ranch party in my mouth.
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He's got his lotion. He's got his. There's a hidden Valley Ranch party in his mouth. He's Andrew Walsh. He's joining me right now. Good morning, my friend.
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I'll be editing out one of those things you said leading into my introduction.
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I am literally quoting transcript of yesterday's program.
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Well, maybe printed it out. This.
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These are your words, sir.
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Maybe some things should be left in the past. Speaking of the past, obviously, we want to begin today's show by welcoming all the listeners who are checking back in after seeing TBTL mentioned on the Seattle subreddit this morning. People, I told you before the show that there was a thread of people kind of bemoaning the state of current Seattle radio and then some very, very fine and I would say judicious and taste making. People said, you know, back in the glory days when Luke Burbank and TBTL were on the air, that's when stations like Cairo were really killing it. I'm not joking, by the way. This was really a thread that I woke up to on my beloved Seattle subreddit this morning. And seeing people say, hey, they're still going. You can check them out.
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They're doing TBTL getting mentioned on the Seattle subreddit.
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Things are going to start happening to me now. That's right. And so I assume because somebody said, hey, they're doing episode 4004, 342 today. And I was like, you know what? That might get us one listener. And so, welcome, listener.
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We're still doing welcome, everyone. We've been waiting for you. We've been here for 15 years doing it.
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We've been here forever. That's right.
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Come play with us, listener. Forever and ever. That must be. Not that people who are visiting the Seattle subreddit today, not that many of them, were losing a lot of time wondering whatever happened to tbtl. But it must be a shock to some of them to find out that it's still happening all these years later. Like I'm imagining if there had been a radio show that I was, you know, aware of or maybe mildly entertained by, and then the better part of one and a half decades went by, right? And then someone's like, you know, that's still Happening five days a week from their houses. What? Like, I feel like even I should do a little bit more research. But remember a while ago we were trying to see if we have done maybe the most daily episodes of any of the podcasts out there. One podcast that's something called Something in the Girl.
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Yes.
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And they've not to be confused with Everything but the Girl, right?
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Not that.
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And not a way to really get in your feelings. If you're Luke Burbank and you're a sophomore in college, two guys, a girl.
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In a pizza shop. That's not it either, I don't think. I don't know how many Something in.
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The Girl podcast, but I feel like when I checked on their web page recently, I think they might be on a like a couple of days a week schedule. I could be wrong about.
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Oh, Keith Girl. Keith and the Girl. Or were you. Were you purposely not saying that because you don't want to lose?
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No, no, no, Andrew. When. When I am. When I'm being general about something, it's because my old Swiss cheese of a brain is no longer retaining the information.
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I have some. I have some very specific information for you. Would you like a count on this? Would you like to go.
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Absolutely.
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Would you like to go head to head with Keith and the Girl? As far as not. No, not quality, but quantity of podcasts are concerned. I am.
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I think we lose on quality.
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We certainly lose on quality. But on quantity, we TBTL. The Too Beautiful to Live podcast is on 4342 episodes if you count today's key. Keith and the Girl just posted their latest episode one hour ago. Luke, this is fresh, fresh information. Episode number 3870. Hold on, hold on.
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I've got a drum roll for this.
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I waited for a long time.
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Spirit of a revolutionary power of addiction. Sorry, that was like to be contrary. I moved the drum roll and I replaced it literally. The spot where the drum roll goes right now has Razzlecon doing Versace Bedouin. I want to apologize to the. To the Keith and the Girl universe because they are very much doing five shows a week.
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But. And I don't fewer total than us though. We have like 500 on them or something, right? We.
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We do. Again, quantity over quality. That is our. That is our brand over here. But where did we. What did we decide about that as far as now? There are radio shows that have been on for years and years and years and they just post their. You know, they post each episode as a podcast. But as far as something that is Untethered from the radio universe that is only existing in the podcast space and is happening five days a week. Did we ever decide if we might actually be the longest running and have the most episodes?
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Well, those are two different things. Longest running, I don't know. But certainly because it's daily, we might have the most episodes. And keep in mind, we aren't even. Like, we had all kinds of side podcasts. We would drop in the feed, like our actual. Our actual, like, podcast load, if you will, which honestly, you shouldn't, but if you will.
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You're mad at me about how I got into the program.
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It was way more. It was something like when we had to move all those files over. I think by now it'd be in, like the 5000s or something. When you can include, like, you know, Game of Thrones coverage and. Yes, I call it coverage. Breaking news coverage about games, Game of Thrones and other projects that we did and all the sports things that we threw in there but didn't number.
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Right. Yeah, I. I would. I would like to be. Maybe if, you know, that could be a branding opportunity for us or a. You know, we can never describe what the show is all these years later to people maybe just saying, not kind of spiritually what the show is, but maybe just a fact about the show. Like, hey, so what's your show about? And you can just go, there's the most of them anyone's ever done.
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Yeah. And then they say, well, that's great, but why should I listen? What's it about? And I'll say, I, well, we've done.
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More than Keith and the girl.
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More than Keith and the girl? What part of that don't you understand?
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Yeah, it's some kind of claim to fame. I'm kind of proud of that. I did. I also had that. Luckily, this doesn't happen a whole lot, but. And you and I have talked about this before where every once in a while, I'll wake up on a random morning and I'll just realize, oh, we gotta do a show today. I gotta talk for an hour on this thing and be hopefully somewhat interesting and engaged, you know, and, like just makes phonetic sounds with my mouth that strung together, ideally go in some sort of logical direction. And it's. It's like sobriety, Andrew. You just gotta take it one day at a time. Because if you think about every once in a while, I'll get the fear. Like, I'll just kind of go, like, what if I have literally nothing to say today? Or, you know, like. Or we're just going to go into this, you know, podcast, Salt Mine, and we're just going to like, hammer away with our pickaxe for an hour and then we're going to come back tomorrow and do it again. I mean, it is the, the, the sheer repetition and tediousness of this project is really something to behold. And if you think about it for too long, it starts to hurt your brain a little bit.
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Something happened to me a couple of months ago, a conversation about TBTL that I don't think I told you about. That was a first for me. You mentioned the phenomenon or non. Phenomenon is the wrong word there, but just the common occurrence of people saying, oh, you host a podcast, what is it about? Right? And we've discussed at length on the show how there's no good answer for that and how you and I are both caught flat footed somehow after 15 years of doing this or whatever. Like, how do we not have an answer to that? And it's embarrassing. But a while back, so one of the people I volunteer with has a daughter who's an adult daughter, but young. Like I'm going to put her maybe in her young, in her early 20s. And she's been volunteering with or over the summer, she volunteered quite a bit. And she somehow had found out about tbtl. I think she's somewhat interested in broadcasting herself. I think maybe she went to school for some sort of communications. I'm not exactly sure, but that, that might have made her slightly interested. And then I think she heard her and her family heard me on KUOW on the Friday Roundtable show. And so maybe she was like, oh, this guy's actually doing something. And so she listened to tbtl. And I can tell you when this was. It was right before we did because.
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We saw that our listenership went up by one.
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I can tell you exactly where it is because I have the graph right here. No, it was right before we started our summer programming where we did a special week of listening to people's pet songs, the songs that our listeners sing to their pets. Because I remember we were out serving and she said, oh, I listened to your podcast this week, but it was before the pets one, right? I listened to your podcast this week. She's like, yeah, can I ask you a question? I'm like, yeah. She's like, what's it about? And I said, and I realized, well.
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Are you familiar with Keith and the Girl and how many episodes they've done?
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I realized that even though I have been asked hundreds of times in my Life. What is your podcast about? I don't think I've ever had the experience of somebody saying, I've listened to your podcast. Now explain to me what was that that I heard.
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Could you explain to me, how do you, sir, how do you think about the thing that I just heard? Because I'm creator of it.
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The reason I'm pegging it as before the summer pet songs was because I believe our friend Anna was out there as well. Of course, Anna is a longtime listener of tbtl. She said, well, you should listen next week because they're going to be playing people's pet songs. And like, this young woman's eyes, she was like, now that I'll listen to. Like, that is something I can wrap my head around, like, because most of the content.
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Yes, well, that I'll listen to. Is it mostly going to be listeners? Listener driven.
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Exactly.
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Okay, listen, enough. Enough jibber jabber. Let's get down to the big topics that's on everybody's mind, mine included. What happened with the plumbing visit yesterday?
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Oh, yeah, we should talk about that.
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What is the. Just to catch up our new listeners who've come to us by way of the Seattle subreddit. Yesterday, Andrew finally called the plumber to come out to try to figure out why there was some. Some water or God knows what coming back up through the bathtub drain in the basement. And it was either going to cost you maybe $150 to fix or maybe 150,000. What was the diagnosis?
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About $99, my friend. It was even less than you. And I thought. So, yeah, I know that water coming back up through pipes is a common occurrence when you have a clog in your drain somewhere. But it can also be that clog could be something, you know, slightly more catastrophic.
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Like, yeah, it was a $10,000 fix. When I had that problem, your quote.
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Unquote clog was a tree route going right through your sewer line. Right. And so we were like, I don't know, it could be that or it could just be a grease ball, you know, just from buildup in the drain somewhere. And you hope. You hope for the lesser one. And that's why I was pretty shocked when I was making the appointment and giving all the details to the person on the phone the day before the plumber came out. And the woman on the phone said, yeah, this will probably be $199. That's our, you know, blanket. That's our usual go to if it's not a huge issue. And I'm like, wow, that's so much less. I was like, are you sure you don't want to charge me more? I mentioned to you, Luke, also, that I had a coupon for $49 that I told her about. So I told you, like, it could be 100 as you just set it up. That's why it could have been 150 or $150,000. And I was shocked to find out when the guy came out, he's like, yeah, I'll probably just snake it. I mean, I don't see any reason why it would be anything more than that. And he snaked. He snaked the drains and said, yeah, there was quite a bit of somebody.
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Better get these mother effing snakes in these mother effing drains.
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Then he said, these pipes are clean, cabin boy style. But then I said, oh, yeah, by the way, I have this coupon, so I think I can get it for like 150. Is like, actually, this is a sale today and it's only $99. So even less than that. It was like 109.
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Those people do bathroom tile, Andrew, because. And by the way, what did you learn about your technician? Did he also send you his Pokemon Go card?
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Should I be honest with you? I was a little bit nervous about this. So let me, let me. This is something. I almost sent it to you, but I wanted. Actually, I forgot about this part. I wanted to share this with you on the show because a little bit of background here, and I think people know this when technicians come out to your house. Now, like, this is somebody that I hired through a company, and I don't mind saying the name of the company because we've had great service from them.
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They sound amazing.
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What are they called? C Town. And you've probably. If you live in Seattle, you've probably seen their vans. They're very distinctive. They have the sort of a. A 1960s sort of space aged font, and they have a little like an Astro.
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Probably why you went for it. That's kind of your vibe.
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I actually called around and then I didn't even realize I was talking to the van people. Until you suddenly realized you were talking to them. I was talking to Astro, the dog from the Jetsons. Jetsons. I didn't want to say Astro, though. I wanted to say his boy. His boy.
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His boy dudette.
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Who is Morty?
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Well, we know it's Jane, his wife.
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Jane, his wife. His boy. His Morty. Right. Come on, Rick. Okay. Anyway, all of that is to say when technicians come out to your house, this company as well as others will sometimes send a photo in advance, like, hey, the plumber is headed your way now leaving. You know, the last job site. His name is Elroy. His name is Elroy. In this case, the name wasn't Elroy, but yeah, you know, the plumbers coming out. And they'll now attach a. Like a photo of the technician as well. And I think that's great. It's a good safety thing, right? Absolutely. So last week when somebody came out from the same company to look at our furnace, I got a little photo of the furnace technician named Mikey who came out, and it came with a little bio. It says, michael Perez is coming out. Here's a little bit about him.
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Well, great. Now they're gonna. Now people are gonna be showing up at his house asking for free furnace device.
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Honestly though, you can request Mikey at Seatown. He said that we can request him by name. And I actually, you get the Andrew Walsh personal recommendation here. But they sent this little bio of him. It says that in his off time, he likes to write and produce music. His favorite movie is the Truman Show. His favorite part about working at Seatown is a genuine friendship. Getting name checked on podcasts, being name checked on podcasts. Oh, and the free coffee he gets to drink daily. So anyway, that was the one from last week. And then we met Mikey. He was the best. Mikey was the best. And then I got this coming in, this text message yesterday, waiting on the plumber. It says, Liam is on his way. And then here's what we know about Liam. Liam is a car enthusiast.
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Complicated relationship with his brother, loves making music on the side.
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Exactly. Liam, 12 years sober, potentially reuniting, although we know that won't last long. Sort of sounds like the Beatles. Liam is a car enthusiast. He loves going hiking and camping. He is an unapologetic Patriots fan.
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I'm so glad that ended with. With a apostrophe. Actually, it doesn't. But I'm glad that that ended with the word S and then fan, because if it just said he's an unapologetic patriot, think about how different that statement is. If Liam is an unapologetic patriot, full stop, versus Liam is an unapologetic Patriots fan. I mean, neither one is great, right? But I'll take Patriots fan over. So a self described patriot.
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But I will say that that sort of got in my head a little bit. And like I before. And Liam was great, by the way. Liam came over, he took care of business. I again, I would recommend him as well.
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He gave you a discount you didn't even know was coming, right?
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Exactly. But I will say this. And this is this. I don't. I think this just speaks to me and my thin skin ness and how I sometimes take sports in a certain way. My sport. I don't take sports too seriously, but I take my sports pettiness too seriously and I rap too into it, sort of. Because when I saw Unapologetic Patriots fan, I was like this. MFer wrote this when the Patriots were good. And now I just want to ask him if he's still unapologetic, like before he's even here. I'm thinking, can I work the Patriots in like I don't. Luke. Well, you will know. I literally don't know. Who is the quarterback for the Patriots right now?
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Drake May.
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And he's a rookie, right?
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Yes.
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And has he been playing all season or is he a mid believe replacement? Really? And he's doing actually that part.
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I don't know. But I know he's been playing and I think he's been kind of somewhere in the middle. Like there's this class of rookie quarterbacks that are all sort of being compared to each other. You got Caleb Williams at Chicago, the number one pick. You got Bo Nix, you got Michael Penix Jr. Down there in Atlanta and Drake May. And there's this kind of like one of these quarterbacks May be like a generational talent and. And you know, so that's. He's on the list of the quarterbacks where there's a question as to if maybe they're the future of quarterbacking.
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I see. Well, I don't want to go after Drake May, but I do know that their record is 2 and 8 and like this is where I'm just like, oh, this person is coming to my house. And I'm already thinking like, well, you wrote this. You're an unapologetic Patriots fan. When you used to feel like you had to apologize for being a front runner, you know, they mean for choosing the, the winning. The winningest team for years and years. And like I wanted to like the worst.
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Is this the worst team that this person could have been unapologetically a fan of in their bio?
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You to me or to the world? Yeah, I mean, I think that, I.
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Mean to you personally, maybe Yankees and.
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Then Patriots, Astros would be way up there. I mean, yeah, I think especially if you're working in Seattle and you say that, you know, you're sort of trolling. So anyway, I was immediately like, yeah, you were unapologetic when they were good. Now they're two and eight. How are they now? You know, I was like, kind of thinking, like. And I was like, what? I mean, this was. I want to be very clear. I wasn't stewing on this for an hour. I just meant that, like, I had this idea flash through my head really quickly, and then I was kind of like, maybe they shouldn't put sports stuff in their bio. And then I thought, no, maybe you should just calm the F down. Like, I think you're. You got a little hair trigger today.
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Well, you know where my pettiness goes with any of those teams that are sort of nationally famous, usually through having a really successful period. So we're talking the Dallas Cowboys, the New York Yankees, the Red Sox, and I'd put the Patriots in there. This is. This is where my thing goes. And it's equally petty and silly, but it's always just like, oh, what part of Boston did you grow up in?
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Yeah, exactly. Yeah.
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Oh, a Burien. Burien, Massachusetts. Oh, Burien, Washington. Oh, oh, oh. Your mom's third boyfriend was a Patriots fan. Like, there's something for me about a person not living in the town that they choose to, like, love the sports team from, when it's a team that was probably just killing it when they came into their sports consciousness, that I find that so, like, annoying for some reason. So that's always where my mind goes when I want to. Just when I'm just letting out my absolute pettiest, little, least likable side of myself around sports. It's always like, oh, hey, what part of that town did you grow up in? Oh, you didn't? Then you're a fraud.
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Well, I didn't know that. That is something that you say in your head all the time, but did you know that I said that to, like, a super, super, super obnoxious Dodgers fan who was sitting behind me at a Mariners game two seasons ago? Like, again, I am not proud of this. It's kind of like when I talk about, like, my old road rage issues, how it's, like, kind of embarrassing for me, and it's very similar. Like, I'm just so easily triggered about these things, and I know that it's about more than sports or whether or not somebody, you know, cut me off on the highway without properly signaling, obviously. I think I'm bringing a lot more to these conversations or these actions than. Than I need to be, and I should talk to somebody other than my podcast host about that. But I get, like, real. I get real bent out of shape. When I go to see my Mariners in my, you know, stadium or my field and it's just taken over by the, you know, the front running fans of the major national teams like the Yankees and the Dodgers. Like, I dislike the Astros, but when I go to an Astros game at the, at you know, T. Mobile park, it's Mariners fans there. You know, it's like these, it's these national institutions that again, just have all these fans all over the country because it's easy to root for these teams, not because there's any personal connection there. And when there's especially obnoxious, obviously that's the worst. That's why I've had issues at Red Sox games. They will be very loud and kind of trolley to the Mariners fans. I experienced that. And then at this, luckily the Red Sox game, I'm thinking of the Mariners ended up pulling off a come from behind win, which was amazing. Unfortunately.
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That was when you left graciously, though.
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That was when I left graciously and I said, good game, I'll see you next week. But the Dodgers, one, we did end up losing and it was a really painful game. I'm wondering if, if it even was the one where maybe the Dodgers clinched something on our field. I'll clinch something on our field. But anyway, there was this really obnoxious, like 20 something year old, like just troll of a skinny little bastard sitting behind me at this Dodgers game.
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And we're clearly processed this and put it behind you. And I think that's really mature.
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Oh, I think about it. I was going to say every day I think about it like when I wake up and when I go to bed and you know, calm down, Arya. I have a list. And you know, the stadium is filled with Dodgers fans, but they're not all like misbehaving. But this one guy behind me is just trying so hard. He's. He might even be there by himself and he's just yelling all of this trolley stuff really loudly and just like you can tell when you're supporting your team or when you're trying to get under the skin of the Mariners fans around you. And so it was Kelnick, I believe our, you know, former outfielder Jared Kelnick came up to bat and I'm pretty sure it was him who had Country Roads. Okay, what is that song?
B
The John Denver song?
A
Yeah, yeah.
B
And what is the Take Me Home Country Roads.
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Take me home Country Roads. But what is the West Virginia. West Virginia is, you know, they literally say West Virginia in the song and this trolley guy, this Dodgers fan, starts yelling like, country, West Virginia. You're in Seattle, you idiot. Like, blah, blah, blah. And like, at this point, I couldn't take it anymore. And I just turned around, I'm like, what part of Los Angeles are you from? And he literally said, oh, no, I'm from Linwood. I'm just a hater. Like, that was literally his response. Do you remember me telling you this?
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This rings a bell.
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And I was just like. Because I at least lived in LA for a couple of years, like, this guy had less of a claim to this team than I did. He was just there because he wanted to wear his stupid Dodgers gear and just, like, troll all of the Mariners fans. And you know what? I didn't let him, Luke. I don't even remember that day. He didn't get to me at who.
B
You know, we live in a world with people like the nihilists like that, and someone's got to stand up to them. And you, you were sitting on that wall that day, Andrew. And we salute you.
A
Anyway, my pipes are good.
B
That's amazing.
A
Isn't that great news? And it goes back to the. Not to rehash our entire conversation yesterday, but it's hard not to think once again about the fact that I started to see this issue in my bathtub probably a few months after moving in, but was so petrified that my pipes were petrified that, like, I just didn't. I was like. I was like, well, let's keep an eye on it then. When it only happened once every six months or so, it was one of those things that didn't feel immediate, but also felt very looming, very hanging over my head. Like, eventually I'm gonna have to get somebody out here. And I know how it's gonna go. These companies, first of all, they're gonna try to take all your money. And second of all, it's gonna be the worst case scenario. And third of all, like, you may.
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Get tackled by either Bobby Wagner. I might get tackled, or Marshawn Lynch.
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Marshawn lynch might just pick up my toilet with one hand and hold it over his head. So anyway, to know that it came out and it was like, you know, a medium priced dinner in Seattle to get it done.
B
Like half of a Thanksgiving dinner that they never deliver.
A
Yeah, right, Exactly.
B
Think about that. Yeah. Well, speaking of keeping an eye on things, Andrew, I don't know if you probably haven't noticed this on the broadcast because you've kind of talked a little bit about your face blindness, but I have if you look at this, could you see on my left eye, there's this, like, red little kind of dot on my lower eyelid sort of.
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Yeah, I can't.
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Kind of hard to see over the. Over the Internet connection. But basically, like, for about, I want to say, a month, I've had this little, like, swollen, like, just like. And actually the weirdest thing is I have one in both islands.
A
Oh, no. Is it a. Does it start with an S?
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Well, I don't know. The Internet tells me it's probably called a Chalazion slash Meibomian cyst.
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Oh, that's gonna say.
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The good news is, are a pretty. I don't think it's anything very serious. It's just like a blocked gland. But I started out there was one that kind of developed in my right eyelid, and I thought, well, that's kind of funny. I haven't had that before. And then, I swear, a week later, there was one in my left eyelid. And I wonder if it was because, like, after a couple of those. Actually, this is. You want to talk about a very literal interpretation of the world. Remember when I was taking those red eye flights and then going right into film shoots? I literally used Visine. I'm not even kidding.
A
Now you have red eyes. That's why people don't take red eye flights.
B
Well, right. But I just mean I was trying to combat that, my eyes being red for a film shoot, because I had been on what we kind of describe as the red eye flight. I don't know if these things are related, but I never use Visine. I feel like I used it maybe two times. And then all of a sudden, I got this weird little, like, swelling in my eyelid on one side. And then like a week later, I got one in my other eyelid. And I went on the Internet and they said, this is probably just like a blocked gland. Just apply a hot compress to it, which I've been doing.
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I want to just jump in really quickly. Are the words you're using to describe this just. Are they synonyms with stye? Because I always hear stye, and that's the same thing. It's basically a pimple, like a blocked gland pimple kind of thing, which forms a red dot on your eyelid.
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I probably am wrong about styes. I thought a style, like, lived on your eyeball in some way.
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No, but I guess I'm wrong about that.
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Yeah.
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And it's.
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Again, maybe this is all interchangeable. I don't know. This thing. What I. What I'll tell you this what the Oxford University Hospital, the National. I don't know what the NH is, the national health system in England. I think they're very proud of their. The nhs. This is the Oxford Eye Hospital treatment for a. And I'll just say the word again. Chalazione slash meibomian cyst. It. This. What they're describing on this PDF that I've clicked on is like exactly what I think I have, but. So I was hoping it would go down on its own. So I've been like putting a hot compress on it and whatever, but it's not, it's. It's. It's not painful or anything. It's just kind of annoying and I would just like it. I would like to have it dealt with. I also don't want it to like get way worse right before I have a film shoot or something.
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Sure, yeah.
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So I made an appointment with the. Just like, well, this was the whole thing yesterday. I was like, do I see an optometrist for this? I don't think they're really in the. It is eye related, but I don't think they're really in the cutting open your eyelid game. They're more the. Like, what's blurrier? This one or this one? That's more their. Their deal. So I just made a kind of a quick appointment with a Kaiser Permanente doctor. Not my regular guy, but just somebody in town closer to where I am. So I'm going in. By the way, I also think, like, when I read down in this NHS kind of thing, it's very funny. The description of it says what does the. So you can. Basically, it's a little operation that they do on your eyelid if the thing hasn't broken up on its own, I guess over in England anyway, they give you like a kind of a local anesthetic and then they, you know, they make a little incision and they kind of take this little thing out, which makes me feel like it's unlikely I'm going to be able to actually get this taken care of today. I think probably the doctor will look at it and then will recommend something. I would love it if they could just take it out today. But I think it's probably more involved. This is the NHS direction, though. What does the operation involve? You will be asked to come to the Eye Minor Procedures Clinic in outpatients at the Oxford Eye Hospital. You will then be called by a member of the team into the minor procedures room. You will be offered a seat and Your nurse practitioner or doctor will confirm your details as well as the eye, which is having the procedure.
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I.
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If the fact that you're going to be offered a seat and that. That's somehow in the literature is really strange to me.
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Was that written by Dry Keith, by any chance?
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Arrest in power King. Dry King.
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That's right. Anyway, very, very Debaser. Slicing up eyelids, I want you to know. Do you have. You know what I'm talking about?
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I do, yes.
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Yes.
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Well, Debaser. Wait, as in the Pixie song.
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That is based on that. Unchen Andalou. I know I've messed that up, but yeah. The Pixie Song. The Pixie song. That's based on the. What is it? Is it a French movie about eyeballs?
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Well, if it's a French movie about eyeballs, is that. But that's not a reference to the. Oh, Phui. What's the movie with the droogs? That's the Clockwork Orange. It's not a Clockwork Orange reference. It's something else.
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I'm looking this up now. Debaser. Debaser. So, okay, let's back up here, because I made that joke just sort of make you giggle. And then you didn't giggle. And then I wasn't sure if you got it. I said, did you get my joke, Daddy? And then I could. I'm too busy reading on now. But anyway, no, Debaser. To the Pixies. The band the Pixies have a song called the Baser, where they say, slicing up eyeballs, I want you to know. And it's based on. And they say the name of this too Unchien. Andalu. And I'm saying that wrong, I'm sure. Which is a 19.
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Doesn't he also yell Andalusia?
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I think maybe I. I always thought he was saying. I thought he was saying the name of the film during that.
B
I thought he was saying Shake and Delusia or something like that, which I thought was a reference to a region of Spain where there's, like, Andalusian horses are from May.
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I thought he was just saying the name of this film that I am mispronouncing now. But anyway, the film was like a dolly film.
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And, well, so there was some, like.
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Weird eyeball stuff going on, imagery. And it was like a short film. And so that is what that song is based on. And here's where we are now. I'm glad I was able to introduce that into evidence.
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I was thinking about you the other day, Andrew, because. Or actually. And the Other day. I mean this morning. Because this eyeball thing is, or eyelid thing is annoying to the degree where I'm looking forward to having them bring a sharp scalpel or, and or needle and inject it into my freaking eye because that means then this thing will go away. You know what I mean? Like, kind of like you were with, with stuff that was going on with your like rheumatoid stuff where you were like kind of like looking forward to being at the doctor to get to a solution. Even though the being at the doctor part was probably going to be unpleasant and maybe painful. That was when they were doing like putting the elect like electrical stimuli into your body and things like that.
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Like I'm so mad about that. That was so expensive and so unpleasant and it had nothing to do with my current treatment at all.
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It would have never happened. If you were in England, they would have sent you the world's most involved instructions about what was going to happen. You will be asked to sign a consent form to confirm you are happy with the procedure going ahead. If you have any concerns or worries, it's important to discuss them with the nurse practitioner or doctor. After you've signed the consent form, you will be asked to lie on a couch. You can remain in your clothes. A sterile sheet called a drape will be used to cover the front and upper part of your clothes and your face. Your affected eye will be left exposed and we will make room for you to breathe comfortably. The drape helps protect your clothes from being soiled as well as providing a sterile working area for the nurse practitioner or doctor to carry out the procedure.
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Wow, then what?
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Well, Andrew, I'm glad you're hanging. The nurse practitioner or doctor will put a numbing drop into your affected eye. They will then also inject local anesthetic around your eyelid. The drops and injection will sting for about 10 to 20 seconds, but will soon make the area numb. Shall we move on to page four?
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I think I got it.
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My point is I know what's going to happen today. I'm going to go down there, Doctor is going to look at it and go, yeah, that's a whatever sty or cyst or thing. And then he'll say, well we probably need to schedule this for like a procedure. And I'll say, sir, can't you just cut it out? Or ma'am, can't you just cut this out today? And they'll go, no, we don't really have the like proper equipment here. I would say, well, what do you got Just find something in the back. Like, that's. It's like when I'm on the airplane. And they're like, well, we can't take off because one of the wings appears to be coming loose. And I'm like, can't you tape that up? I just have places to be. Like, I would really like someone down there at the Kaiser Permanente in Longview to just hack this thing off of my face today, please. I don't want to have to make another appointment and go back in two weeks.
A
What if you walk in and is very much like the doctor's office in 89, Batman, where he's trying to save the man who will end up becoming the Joker? And he says, you see what I have to work with? And it's got a bunch of it basically. Like, in my head, I'm almost conflating his doctor's tools with. With cow tools. The Far side comic that. Remember.
B
What were the cow tools?
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Do you not remember, like, the most, I guess, if you would call it controversial. The most controversial Far side comic of all time was just a picture of a cow standing in front of a workbench. And there were just some crudely made tools. And one sort of looked like a saw, maybe like a squiggly saw, but then the rest just looked like blobs. And this caused such. Because this is pre Internet, and it caused such an uproar that newspapers around the country were just fielding all kinds of letters and calls from people saying, what does this cartoon mean? And I think Larson went on to say, yes, probably one of the most. I don't know if he said worst or controversial things. And the whole point was if a cow were to make tools, they wouldn't be very good. That was.
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I'm looking at it right now. I know we're doing Wikipedia page, by the way.
A
No, it has its own following, I think. Like, honestly, I think it's got its own religion at this point. Thank you for being a T.
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All right, it's time to thank some of our donors. Today. You don't get to be possibly Andrew. The longest running daily podcast, or at least the daily podcast with the most episodes, without the financial support of people like Hank Saunder of North Providence, Rhode Island.
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I've never been there, but I bet you it is beautiful.
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I bet you it's the. It feels like the kind of place where the lobstermen are bringing in the fresh lobster.
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There's a hometown each afternoon. There's a small newspaper there where somebody is like, both the editor and the main reporter and the photographer.
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That's right. And the main export is cable knit sweaters.
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That's right. And cozy knit.
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That's right. And Hank is there. Thanks, Hank. Thanks also to Alana Sweeney of Brooklyn, New York.
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Now, same exact description. Same exact description.
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Their main export is edgy comedy being performed at the Bell House. Thank you, Alana. Thanks. I'm knitting here at the Factory. Was that a Knitting Factory joke?
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No, just like that.
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I mean, that's actually a pretty solid joke, though, because the Knitting Factory is a place where much of that kind of content that probably is better.
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I was just thinking. I was trying to combine the sort of coziness of Rhode island sweaters, New York sensibility, that New York edginess. Yes.
B
Sam Charner is in Chicago, Illinois. What do you got for Chicago?
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And dubbears. Sorry, man. It's all. No, I hate it. I hate myself right now. I hate myself. I gotta go.
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Which you can do again, Andrew, without any anxiety. I'm jealous.
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No, that's not true. My showers are filled with anxiety.
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None of them plumbing.
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Related.
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Julie Upton is in Lake Forest Park, Washington. Beautiful Lake Forest Park, Washington.
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Oh, that's the camera district, right?
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That is. That's the lens district. Jennifer Beerman is in Jersey City, New Jersey.
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I wish there was some sort of, like, kind of trope or stereotype around Jersey City, New Jersey, that I could share, but I can't think of any.
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All that comes to mind are, like, actually speaking of the Sopranos, one of the greatest throwaway lines.
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You weren't speaking of the Sopranos on the show. You were speaking of the Sopranos to me during the break. I was, yes.
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Thank you for that.
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I'm not correct, my friend. I just thought it would be funny to point that out.
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Thank you. It's very unclear to me, the line between broadcasting and talking to my friend. Yes. During a quick timeout, I had mentioned something about the Sopranos to Andrew, and now I'm bringing it up for the first time on this program, the Sopranos. There's this scene where Christopher is late getting somewhere, and I think it's Tony or is, like, annoyed at him, per usual on that show. And he says something about the traffic, and he says, what is the line from Born to Run? It's the highway is jammed with broken heroes on a last chance power drive or something.
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I have no idea.
B
Like, Christopher just, like, drops the Springsteen lyric as a way of explaining the traffic was bad. He's like, the highways jammed with broken heroes on a last chance power drive.
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I can hear him say, but he.
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Says it in Christopher, you know, Maltisanti. Yeah, it's so good, dude.
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Do you know that I'm.
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That's what I think of when I think of Jersey.
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I'm re watching that right now. Like, I'm rewatching that. So. So the Sopranos for a while now. Even though I know this might sound sort of odd to people because there's obviously some violence in that show. But for me, the Sopranos is also the type of show that I can go back to and just randomly watch an episode and just like, sort of have it on. If it's late at night, I don't feel like getting into something I haven't seen before. I don't want to think too hard. Just put on a random Sopranos and enjoy it for what it is. But maybe, I don't know, a few weeks ago or something, I decided, no, I want to actually start from episode one and try to pay attention again because there is a lot going on. And I will say, the first time I watched it, like, and that was literally, I think we were getting the DVDs delivered to us, you know, like the. This family and the that and this guy's crew and that guy's crew and who's getting killed. I think I was watching it mostly for the broad strokes, for the palace intrigue, for the family relations, all of that and the performances. But, like, I did not have a good handle on, like, some of the ins and outs of what was going on. And to rewatch from season one. And I'm like, like, honestly, like, if I fall asleep during an episode, I now go back and I rewatch it and I'm now near the beginning of season two, or I'm kind of. I've started season two a couple of nights ago. And you just. I mean, first of all, first of all, why am I even talking about this? We need to thank the donors. But I brought it up so twice. So much happens in the first season that when you rewatch it, you can't believe that that's. That the entire series doesn't happen in the first season, if that makes sense. Like, it's just like. It's. So much happens in the first season and you're just like, no wonder the show is so popular. And it just, like, got off to such a great start. And you just like, really appreciate, like, the season, like, premieres and season finales and kind of how they wrap things up and they're. And I always knew this with their ability to sort of, like, handle surreality, sort of like the bringing kind of. You know, I love dream talk, but the way they bring dreams in and.
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Reality, the animals in the. In the backyard and stuff like this.
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And like, I had forgotten in season one, Spoiler alert for a show for a season that came out in 1999. Like, do you remember that he kind of has a bit of a tryst with this beautiful woman who's temporarily living next door, but it's all part of his imagination. It turns out we learned that she doesn't even exist, this Italian dental student. I'm telling you, there's so much about the show that you have forgotten. Oh, wow.
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Yeah, I should go back. And I actually started a while ago. I mean, like, maybe during the pandemic, I kind of had the same thought. Like, let me just go back and. And I really, really enjoyed it. And then I just kind of, like, got distracted with something else. Let me just play you a little bit.
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What a You been. You're late. Highway was jammed with broken heroes on a last chance power drive.
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It just, like, never commented on again.
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I wasn't sure how Tony was going to react to that.
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I've got a hero. And they're not broken. Their name is Matthew Lee Farris and they're in Richmond, Virginia.
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Richmond, Another classic American city.
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Thank you so much, Matthew Lee Ferris. And thanks to all of our donors today for making TBTL happen all these episodes later. Couldn't do it without you.
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Hello and welcome to Top Story.
B
The announcement came onto. It was either my watch or my phone yesterday. I've got to really start managing the push notifications on my devices because, like, you kind of. You've talked about how, like, particularly in the very, very early aftermath of the recent election, how, like, the New York Times was just, like, pushing notifications to your stuff. Yeah. And it was just like, causing you, like, a panic attack every time it happened.
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Yeah. Because some of it might be, hey, the world is falling apart. And the other one might be, try this dish for your holiday.
B
Cozy recipes.
A
Kidding me.
B
Yeah. Four cozy recipes to get you through a bomb cyclone.
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Yeah. Right.
B
But I got this push notification that I didn't even catch. I just saw, like, LeBron James and something and I thought, oh, dude, is this guy retiring? He seems like he's still pretty good, actually. And what the actual announcement was, LeBron James has announced that he is stepping away from social media. And I have. That's as far as I've read into the story, Andrew. But I already know why it's because of just the absolute roastification of his son, Bronny James, and how for people that don't follow this kind of stuff, LeBron James Jr. Aka Bronny James, was a, you know, like a much better college basketball player than certainly I would ever be. And an elite basketball player by a lot of measurements, but not probably like a person who at this moment is going to be a dominant force in the NBA. And yet he was. He was drafted by the Lakers, his dad's team, and then actually started out, made the roster and was playing with the Los Angeles Lakers in some NBA games before they sent him down to the G League, which is like basically the kind of like Triple A. It's the minors of. Of basketball to get better. Where he is currently, I think, ranked. I'm going to stop my head, but there's like a 430 people in the G League and he's ranked like 420th. Like he's. He's also one of the worst players in the G League.
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And did I. I don't know if this is an ongoing thing, but I heard on like AM radio, I think last week that he also. I heard about that thing on the AM radio. No, just like I always kind of say that. Just so you know how I'm gathering this information because it's probably like I'm probably eating cold cuts over the sink, playing Wordle and half listening to some jabronis on AM radio. So like, I. I get a lot of this information kind of wrong. But I heard something like he also was refusing to go on the road with his G League team. Like he had preference. He had enough preferential treatment with the team that he was like, well, fine, I'm traveling well. I don't know if that was his tone, but essentially that he can just stay home and play the home games and not go on the road with this G League team. Is that true? Is there any truth to that?
B
I heard that referenced as well. And I have to be honest with you, I don't know quite enough about the story to know all of the details. But what I know is I'm the reason, I'm sure that LeBron James is decided that the social media is not a good place for him is because all of the discourse is on there that is related to LeBron James is related to Bronnie James, and Bronnie James being kind of a nepo baby. I think I probably didn't help when I retweeted this or I re. Skeeted this on Blue sky from the Onion. LeBron James denies son receiving preferential treatment while being lifted up to dunk Luke.
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When you said that you were going to blame yourself, I thought you had your own joke. And I have this up on my screen because when you were done with your joke I was going to say maybe it was the onions fault because I saw this headline yesterday and it, it pretty much slayed me. Also the image that goes along with it because LeBron is holding his son up.
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By the way, Dateline, Los Angeles Emphasizing that He treated the 20 year old in the same way as any other rookie Lakers power forward LeBron James denied Wednesday that his son Bronnie received preferential treatment when he lifted him up to dunk. Yes, he's my son but in no way do I favor him when I give him the ball, help hoist him up and then walk him to the rim so he can score at the four time NBA mvp. Adding that his teammates were like, were likely just jealous that when Bronnie gets put back down everyone cheers and tells him how amazing he is at basketball. Now this is the thing. I thought that was a funny headline. I put it out on Blue Sky, I reposted it. But I will be totally honest with you as when I saw that push notification when I was getting gas at the Safeway, the real thought I had was LeBron James is a human being who loves his son and is probably feeling kind of sad about the way that this is playing out in the kind of public discourse and has literally made the decision and I think the correct decision that this is not good for him. Like good for his soul and his spirit to see people being mean to his son. And I kind of get it like as a father, like, like it's the weirdest thing because and you know, you and I are both, I think fans of this sports commentator Nick Wright.
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Oh yeah, big time.
B
I think this guy Nick Wright is, I mean in the take ification the take in the taking, the having a take industrial complex, which is unfortunately what most sports coverage is now is just like competitive take having. Everyone has to have a take and it's got to be more like kind of explosive than the previous take, you know. And a lot of them just, just I kind of leave me cold. But I think this guy Nick Wright usually has pretty good and interesting takes and I feel like his on this thing was this is kind of great for basketball and kind of like well first of all it means nothing. Who cares? Who freaking cares in the grand scheme of things? And Also, anyone else who was in a profession and they loved their son and their son was in the same profession, and they were. They would be able to make it happen, would probably kind of do the same thing. Like, I forget exactly the way he phrased it, but I thought it was a really nice reset on the topic. To the people who were saying, like, this is the. You know, this is, like, the worst thing happening in America. Well, I don't know if you've been following the real news lately, but this is pretty low on the list of important things. And also, it's like, I don't know, just there was. Again, I'm doing a terrible job of remembering the way that a different person, Nick Wright, had phrased this. But my sense of it was just, like, in all of this, what? First of all, I really like LeBron James. Like. Like, I think LeBron James is, generally speaking, a force for good in the world. He's also an unbelievable success story as an athlete. And by that, I mean he was on the COVID of Sports Illustrated while in high school, being called, I believe, King James. I've also tried to describe this Sports Illustrated cover many times incorrectly. But, like, the fact that LeBron James was as hyped as he was and has actually exceeded the hype is an unbelievable thing to have happened. Also, in all of that, have we ever heard one bad thing about LeBron James?
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Yes.
B
Like, and that was.
A
Well, the big thing is that he wouldn't separate himself from the kind of, you know, Chinese labor market. And I mean, that's kind of a big one that is often glossed over.
B
But that's a macro. That's a macroeconomic thing. But I mean, as far as, like, him being, you know, accused of some sort of, like, illegal behavior or, you know, beating someone up or whatever, like, the stuff.
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No, no, no, no.
B
You know what I mean? Like, and you're right, that's a good thing to point out that, like, that's some of his, like, you know, covering up for this terrible authoritarian government. But I guess I. I was thinking more just in terms of, like, any kind of legal stuff where he's, you know, caught doing something you're not supposed to be doing or whatever. He just has been a pretty exemplary person off the court as far as that stuff goes.
A
You know, I feel like there's some appropriation with the Taco Tuesday. No, just joking. No, no.
B
He's also a good point.
A
You know what the funny thing is? I'm glad to hear you say this, because at one point, and as you know, you and I are not hot take machines. At least we certainly don't stylize ourselves that way. And I think we actually work to maybe even avoid that.
B
Well, also, our takes are not very interesting unless people expect the take to be freezing and then it's room temperature. In this case, it may burn them.
A
It burns your mouth. It burns your whole body. It's funny because I had this and I'm just remembering this now, like this wasn't again, a long thought out thing, but at some point, I don't know if it was this morning when you sent me the show sheet and I saw this on here or maybe when you were doing your intro and you kind of promoted that. We're going to be talking about this later. At some point today, I was kind of like. Because I have weird feelings about LeBron. I sort of think he's creamy.
B
Well, he's a Cleveland guy. I mean, you as a Cleveland guy.
A
Yeah, but also, like, I want to actually just kind of not take Stolen Valor in any. Because I really don't follow the NBA at all. So I don't have any bad feelings about him leaving Cleveland and doing the whole decision thing, other than it just reminds me of just being a very cringy thing. I just think that LeBron James is like really cringey in this way that just sort of like, obviously not Russell Wilson levels of cringey dorkiness. But like, you know, like when he talked, there's some commercial out that I saw. I don't know, maybe it was running a couple of months ago and he was just like listening to, I think maybe the song A Millie by Lil Wayne or something. And that would be appropriate. That that's kind of age appropriate for him because he's kind of an older guy now. But there was something about this commercial where he was supposed to be just chilling and enjoying music. And I was just like. Like, this is so like, you're just not cool. And there's nothing wrong with not being cool. I've been not cool my whole life, babe.
B
You were not cool before. It was cool to be not cool.
A
You know, I know something about not being cool, babe. Because people have said I'm not cool my whole life. But anyway, and so I always think that, like, when I think of LeBron James, I kind of have these mixed emotions. And I had this quick thought today, like, wait, is he a bad guy? And then I was like, wait a second. He doesn't have to be a good guy or a bad guy. He does Some really great things he does things for, I think was in la, where he maybe even started some schools. And again, I don't. I think that his schools actually had more of a focus and a plan, unlike.
B
Unlike Russell's schools, Deion Sanders schools.
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I think that he has done some, like, actual concrete, very good things for various communities and including, like, locations like Cleveland, like la, as if LA needs help. But either way, no, I think he's a good man in some ways. I think that I would. I think that he should have spoken up about his connections to China and the labor practices there. I think he really dropped the ball there and continues to do so with his ongoing silence, even though it's not in the headlines anymore. I think when he, you know, tries to, like. I think a thing of his is sometimes, like. And this is more like, you know, just the maybe echo chamber of sports people dunking on him a little bit. But, like, he always claims to know about the hottest music and all the younger players, and people are like, we don't think that you actually are into what you're saying you're into. And it's kind of like. And that could be charming or cringey. And generally speaking, I sort of. And oh, and by the way, one other thing that I'll put in the pro column is then when I see clips of him talking about Cleveland in that Amy Schumer movie that I'm blanking on the name of right now, he seems like the most charming guy in the world. And I love. I think it is. Train wreck. So anyway, my point is, I had this flash for a moment today when I was like, oh, we're going to be talking about this. Is he good or is he bad? And I was like, what a dumb question. What an absolutely dumb question to ask yourself, Andrew. Well.
B
Well, yeah, we are not. I'm not here to. Well, I guess I am here to say he's good or something. I am here to say it's interesting how these people, when they get to a certain level of fame, it's very easy to forget that they're still actually people at the end of the day. And that I. I think. I think LeBron James is having a very relatable parental moment right now where he's just like, man, this is like, bums me out when I go online and people are just being mean to my kid. And also, poor Bronnie James, like, really poor poor.
A
I mean, that's what. I didn't bring this up in my ongoing litany of things, but like, that's where. I don't know which Colin to put this in, but I would say, like, is he evil for trying to, like, give his son a leg up? No, he's doing. He's being a good parent and in a way. Or he's. He's acting in a way that he thinks is good parenting. But I think that if we saw this even on a micro level, some parent who's giving an unfair advantage to their kid because they're in a place of power amongst other parents or something, like, no, that would be kind of shitty behavior. Not, not. Not unforgivable behavior, not even un. Understandable behavior. But, like, no, like, I, I think using all of your power to give somebody an opportunity that doesn't deserve it isn't necessarily in the pro column.
B
Well, the reason I say poor Bronny James is because do we expect Bronnie James to say, no, thank you, Lakers, please do not draft me.
A
Right?
B
Like, I feel like at some point this is like, you know, sort of heavyweights, the crown, right? And then heavyweights, the junior crown. Like, your dad is freaking LeBron James. You're trying. You're trying your hardest at this basketball thing, you know, and you know that there's so much speculation around are you going to be as good as your father? And also, like, you want to impress him, you want to impress the world, you're working really hard, you're playing college basketball. And then, like, you know, the also side note, had a heart event where you were almost dead. Like, had to be, I think, defibrillated on the court or something, like, so. And then overcame that and you're playing like. I guess I just mean, I feel like other than maybe just saying I don't want to play basketball, what I really want to do is play bassoon in the Los Angeles Philharmonic. In other words, choosing a totally different life path for Bronny James. It's like, well, what, are you going to not go play for the Lakers if they tell you they're going to pick you in the second round? And then if, you know, JJ Redick puts you in the game, are you going to, like, not play? Like, I feel like this is this weird almost, and I don't want to overstate the stakes, but it's almost some sort of like a Greek tragedy that Bronny James is cast in, that he kind of at some point has very little control other than walking away from it all. He's just a. He's a character in this play called LeBron James.
A
I would say, and again, I'm not raising any of this to the level of something that, like, you say, none of this really matters. And I'm not trying to make it sound like he's evil, but when we say he's trying as hard as he can. Now, I have confirmed that he is not going on the road with his G League team. I don't have specific quotes about what. How that decision was made, but just going with the. Like, let's say what I would say, like, the worst possible scenario, which is Bronnie just feels like he doesn't have to go on the road with his G League team because he's special in some way. I would argue then he's not trying as hard as he can. Like, that's a bad.
B
Look.
A
There's a. And again, I'm making. And I want to be very clear here. I'm making some assumptions. It might be his coaches who are saying he should only stay at home because of certain. Certain I don't know anything about this world.
B
Well, what if the Lakers need him at the last minute?
A
I mean, I. I don't. I don't know if you're joking or not.
B
He's surprising.
A
I would underscore that. I. I really want to say, like, despite the. Despite the tone of my voice right now, I want to say, like, it is just a game. It doesn't affect me, and I don't really know what I'm talking about, but let's just say that. That it is that scenario of, like, if you're talking about this. This scenario of nepotism and everything, and you have this young player who was drafted even though maybe other people were passed up before him in the draft class because of your place in life, and it's not because of your basketball skills. And then you get knocked down to the G League, and then you say, fine, but I'm not going on the road. Like, then you start to say, well, no, I would like to see more from somebody. I would like to see more get up and go in a sport that, like, at least on its surface, celebrates, you know, like, you know, personal ambition.
B
Yeah. I definitely think if Bronnie James wants to change the narrative, the first thing is be the first guy at practice in the G League and the last guy to leave and go on all of the road trips, like, fully. Just, like, you know, almost kind of like, do a hard reset, unplug the Bronny James, wait a minute, and plug it back in, and, you know, unplug the narrative and Then plug it back in and see if it's fixed itself. Because. Because right now it's. Yeah, he seems like he's kind of a spoiled, spoiled, little rich kid. And, you know, he has obviously had access to an amount of kind of privilege, you know, financially anyway, That's. That's pretty hard to relate to. But at the end of all of this, like I said, I had this. I mean, I guess I didn't feel so bad that I didn't read you the Onion headline. And then we both laughed. But, like, there was something about LeBron James stepping away from social media that brought home to me this idea that he is. Is probably just bummed out that everyone's roasting his son. And I found that to be pretty relatable.
A
Yes. And I also, I would say he should step away from social media and a lot of people should. And maybe myself included, like, right now, not on a lot of social media. But, you know, you and I have talked on the show about our various steppings away and then stepping closers, and we've been playing around with blue sky. But, like, I'm not living on blue sky the way Twitter is. Like, I'm nowhere. You know, I poke my head in a couple of times a day, see what's up my peeps.
B
But, like, I did appreciate the. I liked you smashing the, like button on my Matt Gates ski last night. Thank you.
A
That's right. Can you remind me, it looks like.
B
You regret doing it.
A
No, no, no. I'm just trying to remember as a close up of his. Oh, oh, yes, yes. Yeah, yeah.
B
By the way, congratulations to America that that guy has taken his name out of the ring.
A
Yeah.
B
Out of the hat.
A
And.
B
And.
A
But still has officially resigned from Congress as well. Right. Like, there's no putting that too.
B
So. Well, because I think he doesn't want that. He doesn't want that ethics report to fully come out.
A
Yeah. Because it puts him in too. It puts him in too good of a light, and he doesn't want all that good attention.
B
Well, exactly.
A
He's bashed.
B
He's a very humble, very kind of, you know, sort of out of the spotlight guy. And if the ethics of the ethics allegations, which would exonerate him completely and make him look very good, came out, he. He just wouldn't feel good about that.
A
But all of that is to say, I just want to say, normalize stepping away from social media if that's what. If that's what your soul is telling you to do. And I think the more people who do that as needed. And again, I'm not out here saying everybody's social media is awful. You're like, I'm not making any judgments about how people are living their life or consuming their media, but if you're to a point where you're like, wow, this isn't good for me anymore, get away for a while, my friendos.
B
But first, please do give me a follow on Blue Sky. Yes, there's a right way to rock and a wrong way to roll.
A
You can't just listen to your soul. Just remember that love life is number one. You can be having so much fun. Just remember that life is much fun.
B
You can be nothing.
A
All righty, here, let's do some blur days, wish people birthday greetings. I wanted to mention a couple of of these blur days mentioned that the actual birthdays fall next week, and I don't know what our plan is for blurs days next week. We haven't explained that. We haven't had a whole meeting yet about blurs days next week, but of course, Thursday falls on Thanksgiving next week, so I don't know what's going to happen. I'm reading all the blur days in case we don't have a chance to get to them this week. You cool with that, Luke? I'm sorry I didn't have you sign off on that.
B
I think that's a good plan. By the way, I don't have a turkey sound effect. Oh, okay. I know you do somewhere.
A
Oh, but I can't play the music and the gobble.
B
I do have this. This actually kind of sounds. This is a squirrel call I got in Arkansas once. But it kind of sounds.
A
It's analog. I love that it's an analog. It's a wooden turkey call.
B
Yeah, that's great. It's a squirrel call, but it kind of sounds like a. Oh, no.
A
That sounds great. There you go. I also have this turkey call here.
B
Oh, yeah.
A
Oh, look, it's David from the basement. All right, let's get into some blursies, please.
B
Got a lot to get through.
A
You can email me andrewbtl.net, put Blursday in the subject line. If you'd like to wish somebody, including yourself, a happy birthday, Brad says, I want to Wish A happy 8th blurth to my 5 Lee. You're such a kind, smart and funny boy. Your mom and I can hardly believe we got so lucky in the kid departure. We love you, mega egg. Big time, buddy. Happy blur. Wow, that is loud. Maybe back it away from the microphone just a tad. There so loud. So loud.
B
Can you fix that in post?
A
I am. I have a thousand squirrels surrounding me right now and they're all menacing me with their eyes. Matt says happy Blur day to my remarkable partner, listener Annie. Wisconsin is a close second to Tasmania, but I love you no matter where we are and what we're doing. Hey, maybe we can check out the priceless granite at Kettle Moraine. Listening to TBTL on the way, of course I had to do it. They put musical notes.
B
Do you think listeners know Sonic Journey I just created?
A
Do you think listeners know which one. Which one of those was me and which one was the drop singing Priceless.
B
Granite I want to let you know that I'm playing right now. I'm podcasting at an incredibly high level. I sneezed violently, like four times. I found the priceless granite audio drop and I played my squirrel thing an appropriate distance from the microphone.
A
Congratulations. Where's your parade? Joey says Happy birthday to Brian. I don't know if you could tell, but there's a Y in that I was trying to pronounce the way Brian. We've never actually met in person, but we've collaborated on a bunch of TBTL music projects, such as Brian in Portland probably. I think this is a second shout out. I think Brian is getting double blursed from last week as well. Let's see. Joey and Brian collabed on. You read your books. I'll drive my truck. Remember that. Remember that TV tale classic and the wrong Way to remember the right kind of night? Oh, sure, Brian.
B
My country music hit. I'm still waiting for the residuals on that.
A
Brian has now put pedal steel on three of my albums. He always sounds amazing and is so professional and efficient.
B
Happy Blur, Brian.
A
Sarah. Oh, this is my pal Sarah, Realtor to the stars.
B
Oh, sure.
A
Says, I want to wish a very happy birthday to my friendo Krista. Oh, I know this Krista too, because. Okay, well, I'll read on. Sarah says, I hope your upcoming year is filled with many trips to Rough and Tumble to celebrate women's spring and even more trips to Seattle's parks as you continue your inspiring goal to visit the mall. By the way, I just want to insert here that I saw Krista last time I ran into listener Christa was at Rough and Tumble there in Ballard. I love that place. Happy birthday, friend. So glad to have you in my life. Happy Blurry. Krista, you know I have a friend. Well, maybe we don't identify where Krista. I know the neighborhood that Krista lives in and I Have a friend who lives in that neighborhood as well. Okay. And my friend said that they were walking by somebody's apartment, this is a couple of years ago, and they heard TBTL blasting from the window, like an open window in the summertime or something. And I always wondered if that was Krista. And I think I asked Krista, and I think we determined it wasn't her. So we have at least two listeners in Krista's neighborhood. Just checking.
B
I love that idea. It's a warm summer evening.
A
Yeah.
B
And people are out on the stoop and they're just playing tbtl.
A
Well, do you know that? I mean, I know I've told you this before. I don't know if you recall it, but before I worked on the show regularly, but I knew you and we were friends. I was grilling outside at my Capitol Hill apartment. You can picture that tiny little front yard right. Right there across. I walked by it the other day with Addie. Oh, really? Yeah. And I was grilling on my little. Well, Weber Grill and bumping my own TBTL podcast. And a neighbor from the next door, like, building her house, came over and said, is Luke here? I was like, no, no. I'm just listening to tbtl, my dudes.
B
And that person was in the Seattle subreddit today.
A
That's right.
B
Wistfully remembering tbtl.
A
Come on back. The water's warm. I have so many warm takes on LeBron James. Emily in Tucson. Or as I like to it, T says, merry, merry half century blur day to me. 50 happens, and it happened in style on the Yucatan peninsula. For this lucky golden age lady and her 11, I brought my TBTL family with me on beautiful walks along the beaches and near the Maya ruins and colonial towns. Thank you for being such a great community and reminding me to make the usual small moments verbose memories. Boy, did I mess up that last sentence. Thank you for being a great community and reminding me to make the small moments verbose memories. That's.
B
Huh?
A
That's what Emily said. Why do I have this job? Give it to the guy.
B
You doing it twice, though, made it more verbose. So I think there was something very appropriate about that.
A
I play into the text. We only talk about the subtext. Why won't we ever talk about what's above it? Tan Ying says now. Tan Ying didn't. But Tan Ying, I believe. Listener in Pittsburgh, right?
B
Yes. I think memory serves. Or unless we have two Tan Yings.
A
Yeah, maybe. But I think this is our pal Tany, who says my 5 turned 10 years old last week. So this is a bit of a belated blurs. Happy 10th birthday to you, Shan, my budding cosmologist and future inventor of something that will either save or destroy humanity. Future inventor of something that will either save or destroy humanity. We love you so much. Much. Lots of love from Mommy, Daddy, Yan, when. And Hugo.
B
Oh, cosmologist. I thought you said cosmetologist.
A
No, cosmologist.
B
Right.
A
Happy blur day to me. Says Danny in New Hampshire and mentions that her sign is Scorpio. Sl. Sagittarius Cusp. Oh, can we look that up? What are we looking at for what's a Scorpio? Can we look this up? What's a Scorpio?
B
Scorpio. What time of year is a Scorpio?
A
You mean. No, I just want to see what today's horoscope is because Danny's message was so short. Oh, here we go. Hindustan times. You got it there.
B
I'm@horoscope.com.
A
Oh, that's probably better. Yeah, why don't you go with that? What do you got?
B
Let's see here. Scorpio today. Are you feeling somewhat annoyed today?
A
I don't think horoscopes should begin with questions, by the way, but go ahead.
B
This is hardly surprising since the day inspires you to take a long, hard look at what's happening with your life. Jeez, let's go back to the Hindustan times. I like that one better. Making a ruckus in the bedroom.
A
That was harsh. But anyway, let. Let's not worry about that. Happy blur day, Danny. Thanks again for being part of the fam.
B
Also, it ends with Scorpio. Be adventurous.
A
So nice.
B
Let's keep that part.
A
Stephen says happy birthday to. That's my wife, Jay, who now shares my difficult to pronounce last name, Beres. Noi. I'm just checking myself on that. Bereznoy. Yeah, I think so. Bereznoy. I'm so happy to be married to my favorite person in the world.
B
That's my wife.
A
Hey, calling back to last year's blur's day. Now we're not living in sin anymore. I love you so much, and I'm so glad to be part of your family officially. I hope my Thanksgiving turkey measures up to your mom. Ken and I have it on good authority that this is our buddy Ken in Michigan. Right, Lou?
B
Ken says okay, Sure.
A
I want to wish Cinder a happy early blurry. Thank you for posting pictures of your adorable corgi, Edward. The Lions winning a Super bowl would be a great Birthday gift. Wait, for you or for Cinder.
B
That's a Ken Lee drop. Just for our friend Ken. And for Cinder.
A
And for Cinder. Happy blurs. A Cinder. And Justin says Erica. Erica. Erica is a TBTL army recruiting angel. Ballard chapter, celebrating her birthday on Monday. This is her 11. Justin dropping a blur day love bomb with her. There's no mountain too tall. I love that.
B
Careful with that love bombing, though.
A
Yeah. Don't say love bomb in an airport.
B
People, people. That's a big thing on the Internet now is people talking about if they got love bombed or not.
A
Is that true?
B
Yeah, it's a. It's one of those in vogue.
A
Yes.
B
Kind of. In vogue kind of terms. Now that refers to somebody coming on very, very strong at the beginning of a relationship, but then. But then kind of flaking.
A
Yeah. And being very superficial. Coming on very, very, very strong.
B
And it's a. It's a big part of the Zack Brian, Brianna chicken fry discourse that. I know you're breathlessly.
A
I do know chicken fry. That's right. She's the barstool person, right? Yeah. Yes.
B
And she dated a country music singer named Zach Bryan. And now she claimed it was a very public relationship and now it's gone very publicly sideways.
A
Yeah, see, I know about that. And she claims that he was very, very controlling. You always underestimate my.
B
And that he love bombed her.
A
Understand culture.
B
I don't for some reason have a bomb sound effect on this thing, but I do have. That's good crash sound effect.
A
I'm glad you don't have a bomb sound effect. Heidi in Minnesota says, I would like to celebrate the blurs of my five. Ayrton, who just turned 11, of course, is our pale Heidi and AYRTON Hope this 11th year will be full of new adventures, just like your Dungeons and Dragons campaigns, with less sword fighting. Happy, blurry Ayrton.
B
Have you seen the Key and Peele sketch where they're doing D and D?
A
I think so. Did you bring this up recently or did Genevieve and I were dipping into some old Key and Peele recently?
B
It's pretty funny because you basically have, like, the Keegan Michael Key guy is the, you know, the sort of D and D. I don't know all the terminology, but let's just say Dungeon Master. Like, he's leading the. He's kind of leading the night and the adventure, and he's doing it in a very traditional D and D way. And then Jordan Peele's there, and Jordan Peele is clearly new to D and D and like really just wants to kind of like rob people and get girls and, and he is like. And he's just like presenting like he's just not, he's not going with the vibe of like let's, you know, use our healing spell to do this. He's just like there to kind of like Grand Theft auto it. But what hap. What, what, what becomes clear pretty quickly is all of the other people here for that D and D night who are generally nerdy guys are extremely excited about this possibility. And Keegan Michael Key completely loses the room to Jordan Peels just like, you know, kind of like dude who just is like not into the lore but just like, yeah, okay, well let's, let's get this. All of this money and all of these girls and a bunch of nerds who've never had that be their lived experience are like, yes, this is what we've been waiting for.
A
That show is so great. I just watched. I can't believe it was only like. Was it only like 2 seasons maybe? Such a short lived thing and now I've. Neither one of them went on to do anything big. I don't.
B
No, I haven't heard from either of them.
A
Sierra says happy bluray to Melissa, the best roommate and fellow 10 I've ever known. I hope this next year is filled with laughs, good times and a huge sense of accomplishment because you are kicking. I don't like to say, I don't like when people make me say words like this, but anyway, Sierra says you are kicking butt at life and I love to see it. You deserve all the happiness and love this year and every year of cheers to you friend. Happy birthday, Melissa.
B
Cute.
A
Sorry I said but Sierra made me say but. And finally Dan says happy golden blursday to my wife of 25 years, Alicia. Here's to another year of pizza Fridays and pancake Sundays and taco Tuesdays. To family movie nights and Sunday night football. To reading the best parts of the paper to each other. To reminding each other that that cash could really get us out of a couple of jams. I'll be the. To your negroni if you'll be the sugar cube in my old fashioned. Love you. To the desert and back. Love, Dan.
B
Come on.
A
I almost feel like this music wasn't the perfect accompaniment to that.
B
That's a very, very sweet and heartfelt message.
A
I'm weirdly in love with Dan now.
B
But anyway, honestly, like, boy, that that guy can write.
A
Happy blur, Alicia and everybody.
B
And happy Blur day. Yeah. To everybody who. Who got shouted and thank you all for listening. I think that's going to bring us to the end of today's episode. But we're going to be right back here. Tomorrow. I will have a full report on if I was able to successfully get a walk in eye surgery.
A
Oh, yeah, they might. A day of eye surgery, depending what it is. It might just be a drain. They might just drain those babies.
B
Yeah, maybe if they can just stick a needle in there and. And, you know, reduce down whatever's in there. I'm down for that.
A
You want me to call. Want to call C Town? Have Liam come.
B
Honestly, I feel like Mikey. This could be a project for Mikey.
A
Yeah.
B
Tell him I have a coupon. 45 off.
A
40. It was 49.
B
Andrew, if tomorrow when I join you on this video feed, I have a very cool eye patch. Like Slick Rick.
A
Like Rick the Ruler or like Jay Leno. Jay Leno's wearing an eye patch.
B
You know, I saw that and I honestly feel, you know, I feel bad for Jay Le.
A
I know, it was weird. You choked.
B
Rough.
A
You choked. You choked on those words.
B
Well, right, because it's not, you know, he's not my comedy hero. And there's a lot of things about Jay Leno's, like, professional career that seem a little bit kind of, again, cringe to me. But he also really, really kind of hurt himself falling down a hill.
A
Yeah, he took a tumble, but it was actually kind of, you know, kind of humanizing. He was, I think, doing a gig somewhere and he. But he wanted to walk down to a restaurant, know, instead of taking a private car or whatever.
B
That's how it happened.
A
I think he was just, like, walking and he was like, I could have, like, gone the long way, but I wanted to take a shortcut and I ended up tripping and fall. I. He took a really bad fall and got a pretty. He got a black eye, broke his wrist. Yeah.
B
Half of his face is purple, but.
A
He has an eye patch. Did he. And he really didn't go to the hospital until after the gig, apparently. So, yeah. Hope he's all right.
B
Hopefully I will not be that roughed up tomorrow, but we'll all find out together. What a Friday. It's going to be here on tbtl, so please do join us for that. In the meantime, have a great Thursday. Take care of yourselves, and please remember, no mountain too tall.
A
And good luck to all. Power out.
Podcast Summary: TBTL Episode #4342 - "Hey, I’m Knittin' Here!"
Introduction and Welcome
In episode #4342 of TBTL: Too Beautiful To Live, hosts Luke Burbank (A) and Andrew Walsh (B) kick off with their signature playful banter, setting a lighthearted tone for the show. Luke humorously declares, "[03:01] A: LeBron James says he is quitting social media," which segues into discussions about their daily lives and the various topics they plan to cover.
TBTL’s Longevity and Comparison to Other Podcasts
Luke reflects on TBTL's impressive run, boasting over 4,342 episodes, and compares it to other long-running podcasts like "Keith and the Girl." He proudly states, "[06:00] B: And we have done maybe the most daily episodes of any of the podcasts out there." The hosts discuss the challenges and triumphs of maintaining such a consistent schedule, emphasizing their commitment to quantity over quality as part of their brand identity.
Plumbing Issues and Experiences
A significant portion of the episode delves into Luke's recent plumbing woes. He recounts the ordeal of a clogged bathtub drain, initially fearing exorbitant repair costs. Luke shares, "[13:30] B: What is the... Just to catch up our new listeners who've come to us by way of the Seattle subreddit," highlighting the relief when the plumber's quote turned out to be $99 instead of the feared $150 or more. They commend the plumbing company, C Town, noting the professionalism of technicians like Mikey and Liam. Andrew adds, “[15:35] A: Those people do bathroom tile, Andrew, because,” emphasizing the reliability of the service.
Personal Annoyances with Sports Fans
The hosts transition into a spirited discussion about sports rivalries, particularly focusing on interactions with overly enthusiastic or trolling fans. Luke describes an encounter with a confrontational Dodgers fan at a Mariners game: “[24:08] A: I have some very specific information for you...,” illustrating his frustration with the aggressive behavior that detracts from the enjoyment of the game. Andrew sympathizes, saying, “[26:48] B: You know, we live in a world with people like the nihilists like that,” acknowledging the universal struggle with difficult individuals in fan communities.
Health Issues: B’s Eyelid Cysts
Andrew opens up about his recent health concerns, revealing that he's developed chalazion or meibomian cysts on both eyelids. He explains, “[28:08] A: Yeah, I can’t,” to which Luke responds, “[29:59] A: Sure, yeah,” expressing understanding and offering support. They discuss potential treatments, including hot compresses and minor surgical procedures, with Luke humorously suggesting, “[36:45] A: What if you walk in and is very much like the doctor's office in '89, Batman...”
Discussion on LeBron James, Bronny, and Social Media
A major segment of the episode centers on LeBron James' decision to quit social media amidst backlash towards his son, Bronny James. Luke introduces the topic with, “[03:01] A: LeBron James says he is quitting social media,” and delves into the complexities of celebrity parenting in the digital age. Andrew highlights, “[47:32] B: I heard that referenced as well,” discussing the pressures Bronny faces as LeBron's son and the public's scrutiny of his basketball career. They critique the notion of nepotism and the expectations placed on Bronny, with Luke asserting, “[59:33] B: Look.”
Notable Quote:
"[56:17] B: Well, yeah, we are not. I'm not here to. Well, I guess I am here to say he's good or something."
— Andrew Walsh, reflecting on the dilemma of defining public figures as good or bad.
Donor Shout-Outs and Birthday Greetings
In true TBTL fashion, the hosts dedicate a generous portion of the episode to thanking their donors and reading heartfelt birthday messages from listeners. Luke announces, “[38:08] B: All right, it's time to thank some of our donors,” and proceeds to acknowledge supporters from various locations, such as Hank Saunders from North Providence, Rhode Island, and Alana Sweeney from Brooklyn, New York. The segment is filled with warmth and personalized messages, showcasing the strong community TBTL has built over its 15-year run.
Upcoming Topics and Conclusion
As the episode draws to a close, Luke and Andrew hint at future discussions, including Andrew's upcoming eye surgery, with Luke teasing, “[78:06] A: Oh, yeah, they might. A day of eye surgery...”. They wrap up with final birthday wishes and a humorous exchange about potential mishaps during the surgery recovery. Andrew concludes with encouragement, “[79:48] A: And good luck to all. Power out,” ensuring listeners feel connected and appreciated.
Conclusion
Episode #4342 of TBTL: Too Beautiful To Live exemplifies the show's blend of humor, camaraderie, and candid conversations. From plumbing mishaps and health updates to deep dives into celebrity culture and community engagement, Luke and Andrew provide a comprehensive and entertaining listening experience. Notable for their ability to intertwine personal anecdotes with broader societal topics, this episode stands as a testament to TBTL's enduring appeal and the genuine connection it fosters with its audience.
Notable Quotes with Timestamps
Luke Burbank (A):
"[03:01] A: LeBron James says he is quitting social media."
Andrew Walsh (B):
"[47:32] B: I heard that referenced as well."
Andrew Walsh (B):
"[56:17] B: Well, yeah, we are not. I'm not here to. Well, I guess I am here to say he's good or something."
This episode encapsulates the essence of TBTL, offering a rich tapestry of topics that resonate with both long-time listeners and newcomers alike.